hello. it's thursday, it's 9 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. the education minister nadhim zahawi is reprimanded by downing street for going to the scandal hit presidents club charity dinner as questions continue to be raised about the event. there's a much bigger thing here, which is that we should get away from the sorts of events where men and women are treated very differently. that is the culture secretary, who is in theresa switzerland along with theresa may. she will meet donald trump after a bumpy few months for the special relationship. we will be live in davos as president trump arrives. and it's an exciting day for british tennis. kyle edmund is on court right now playing in the men's semi—finals at the australian open. we'll be hearing from those who know him best. he has improved certain elements of his game, made some small technical

changes, but mostly about his decision—making. he has some huge weapons in his game. hello... welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning. we'll get figures after half 9 which will give us an idea of the number of rough sleepers across england. if you've been homeless at some point in your life — do let me know about your own experience, how it happened, what effect it had on you? and how you got back on your feet...and i'll share your insight with the nation. you can email, message me on fb, use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today. the education minister nadhim zahawi has been reprimanded by number 10 for attending the men—only charity dinner. is mr zahawi attended the presidents club's function at the dorchester hotel, where women employed as hostesses say they were groped.

the minister said he felt uncomfortable and left the event early. alexandra mackenzie reports. the annual presidents club dinner for men—only at the dorchester hotel. women were hired as table hostesses. there are claims they were groped, they were made to wear revealing outfits and specific underwear and their phones were confiscated. maddison marriage is the financial times journalist who went undercover to expose the dinner. multiple women told me that they had been touched inappropriately and that ranged from you know holding their hands, touching their stomachs, to hands near their bottom of their back. things that maybe you might not find too offensive, but then touching their bums, touching... kind of grabbing them, pulling them into their laps. one of the event organisers, david mellor, resigned

his position as a member of the department for education's board and summoned to explain his attendance was education minister, nadhim zahawi. he was called in to see the chief whip. on social media, mr zahawi said: i do unequivocally condemn this behaviour. the report is truly shocking. i will never attend a men—only function ever. he didn't stay long. he went home very shortly after the hostesses were announced by the presented and paraded around the room. i think that that indicates to me that he was shocked by the event, didn't like the culture, the atmosphere and left. the presidents club, which said it was appalled by the allegations surrounding the event last week, said it will distribute remaining funds to children's charities before shutting down in the wake of the scandal. more on that later in the programme.

marin cilic has the first break, leading kyle edmund in the first set. more in sport, coming up. first, here is carol with a summary of the rest of the day's news. theresa may will use a speech at the world economic forum in switzerland to put more pressure on technology companies like facebook and twitter to tackle extremist material online. she'll be speaking in davos just hours before she meets us president donald trump, their first meeting since she criticised him for sharing racist videos tweeted by the far—right group, britain first. the us president, donald trump, says he's ‘looking forward' to being interviewed by robert mueller — the fbi's special counsel investigating allegations of russian interference in the us elections. in a heated exchange, the president told reporters he would give testimony under oath,

and said he expected to be questioned by mr mueller within two to three weeks. reporter: would you do it under oath, mr president. you mean like hillary did? who said that? i said that, would you do it under oath? you said it. did hillary do it under oath? i think you have an idea. wait, you don't have an idea? you really don't have an idea? i really don't remember. i'll give you an idea — she didn't do it under oath. you won't? i would do it and you know she didn't do it under oath. at least two people have died and several others injured after a train derailed near the city of milan. the regional train was travelling towards milan's porta garibaldi station and derailed around the town of segrate. there are reports that emergency services are still trying to rescue people trapped inside. ajudge in california has barred a mother and father, accused of the imprisonment and torture of their 13 children,

from having any contact with them. david and louise turpin appeared in court to deny the charges. the siblings will now be separated, with the adult children living in one location and the six youngsters divided between two foster homes. plans to set up tens of thousands of free water refill points across england are being announced today. water uk, which represents water companies and suppliers, says it wants to expand a refill scheme first launched in 2015. it hopes this will help reduce pollution caused by plastic bottles being thrown away. scientists say smoking just one cigarette a day is much more dangerous than previously thought. the team at university college london said people should give up rather than cut down because of the risk of heart attack and stroke. our health and science correspondent james gallagher reports. smoking is awful for health, as it greatly increases the risk of cancer, heart attack and stroke. you may expect cutting down from 20

to one a day would lead to a similar reduction in health problems. it does for lung cancer, but a study in the british medicaljournal says some risks remain high. for every 100 middle—aged people who had never smoked, five have a heart attack or a stroke each decade. a 20 a day habit increases that risk to a higher 12 heart attacks or strokes. when people cut down drastically and smoke just once a day, they would still have eight heart attacks from strokes. ——hea rt attacks or strokes. the team from university college say the solution is to stop completely. even smoking the odd cigarette here and there or one or two a day still has a major risk of two common and serious disorders. the implication for gps is that when they deliver smoking cessation services to their patients they can raise this information to try and encourage smokers in a positive way to completely stop rather

than merely cut down. researchers think even low levels of tobacco smoke may be altering the way the heart, lungs and blood vessels function, leading to the increase in risk. cutting back is still better than doing nothing but public health england say the safest thing to do is to quit for good. the singer for manchester post—punk band the fall, mark e smith, has died aged 60. his partner pam vander, who is also the band's manager, said mark died at home on wednesday morning and added that a more detailed statement would follow ‘in the next few days'. the band released more than 30 albums with the frontman, who was known for his distinctive style of singing. us youtube star logan paul has published a video about suicide awareness, after he was widely criticised online for a previous video post showing the body of an apparent suicide victim in japan. in the seven—minute video, paul meets activists

and a suicide survivor, while pledging to donate $1 million to prevention groups. it has received a largely positive response from his young fans online, and paul said he hopes it will "make a difference in the world". cheetahs are known for being the fastest land mammal but now new research suggests when it comes to catching prey — speed doesn't always equal success. scientists have discovered a kind of arms race between big cats and the animals they hunt — as one gets faster the other becomes more agile. our science correspondent victoria gill explains. the fastest land animal on earth. cheetahs are built for speed and acceleration. but with a sprint they can sustain for less than a minute, every twist and turn of the hunt is critical in a high—speed battle. these veterinary scientists have now

studied at the finer scale. we see the spectacle of hunting on wildlife documentaries, but here we are capturing thousands of runs and seeing all the things that we haven't seen before, building up a full story which means you can build ofa full story which means you can build of a computer model that tells you what the effect is. they are recording the animals' position more than 200 times a second. that ca ptu red than 200 times a second. that captured every moment of the chase, revealing just how closely predator and prey match in their athleticism. but it also demonstrated that the hunt is about much more than speed. by hunt is about much more than speed. by outmanoeuvring a predator, turning at the very last minute, and antelope can control the chase and evade capture. only about 50% of cheater hunts resulting akhil ——

cheetah. —— result in a kilt. the cats are close to extinction, many of them, and this study reveals how close the line is between life and death in the wild. if we're going to protect them, having an in—depth understanding of the requirements in their natural habitat is important, and research into the kind of prey they eat, how much home range they need,it they eat, how much home range they need, it all links into their conservation. these are the extreme athletes of the animal kingdom, and it has meant tracking their every step to really unravel the drama of each chase. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9:30am. some comments from you about the

families minister, who has been reprimanded for going to that dinnerware hostesses were groped. one viewer says: yet another politician keeping their jobs one viewer says: yet another politician keeping theirjobs after doing things that others will be sacked for. another says: the gala hostesses speak after several years of fundraising? hostesses speak after several years of fundraising ? scott hostesses speak after several years of fundraising? scott says: the hostesses knew what to expect and what happens there. there are the hundreds of complaints from them? paul says: other than the journalists who went undercover, can we hear from other hostesses about their experiences? that is what we are hoping to bring you today, paul, so are hoping to bring you today, paul, so do stay tuned. catherine is here with the sport. the biggest match of kyle edmund's career, how was he doing? he is up against it, facing

set point against marin cilic. he has just clinched that first set against kyle edmund in the semifinals of the australian open down in melbourne. the biggest challenge of kyle edmund's career. marin cilic won the 2014 us open. he is the world number four and this is an enormous occasion. kyle edmund dropped a set during his match with grigor dimitrov, so don't count him out yet. win or lose, we cannot overstate kyle edmund's achievement here. if is his first grand slam semifinal and he is only the sixth british man to reach the semifinal ofa british man to reach the semifinal of a major. absolutely fantastic achievement from him, but he is one set down to marin cilic in that semifinal. we will keep you updated on that throughout the morning. he has to come back now, victoria. on that throughout the morning. he has to come back now, victoriam you want to listen to the match,

it's on five live right now. and we know who is in the women's final? we do, we had a cracking semifinal between world number one simona halep and the former world number one, angelique kerber of germany. some absolutely extraordinary tennis from both women. you can see from the score graphic that the final set went in 9—7 in games, and it was simona halep, the current number one, who goes through to the final in australia for the first time, and she will face caroline wozniacki, who herself was world number one a few years ago. she did not win a grand slam when she was on top of the rankings. simona halep has not yet won one, so they will go head—to—head for their first grand slam title. and adding to the mix, a bit spicy, the world number one ranking will also be at stake in that final this weekend. and phil neville isn't going to face punishment for those offensive tweets ? punishment for those offensive

tweets? no, i think it's punishment for those offensive tweets? no, ithink it's fair punishment for those offensive tweets? no, i think it's fair to say that his appointment as the england women's head coach has not been universally popular. he came in from lots —— for lots of criticism from lots —— for lots of criticism from lots of people, people saying that he has only got the job because of who he is, his name, not necessarily because of his experience at any high level in coaching, or because he has any particular interest in the women's game. and that has not been helped by tweets he sent in 2011-12 which been helped by tweets he sent in 2011—12 which were disparaging towards women. the fa chief executive has said that background checks were carried out but they did not reveal the comment in question. he said those comments would not meet the threshold for issuing a charge. nevertheless, he says neville will be educated on his responsibilities and will be warned about his conduct in future. i imagine phil neville hopes hisjob as england head coach will become gradually easier than the first 24 hours in the role. not necessarily expect you never know. let's talk more about kyle edmund.

here's one of his coaches, mark hilton, on what's helped with this breakthrough at the australian open. well, it's come about in a few ways. there have been some obvious improvements to his game but also he has had a lot of changes in the sense of a new coaching team, myself and fredrik rosengren along with ian prangley, his physical trainer, have come together and obviously made a plan on what needs to improve, what he's doing great, and fortunately over pre—season we had a great time together and it's showing now at the start of the year. but what is different? is it that he is physically stronger, mentally stronger, because he has, perhaps cruelly, been called a choker in the past? yeah, so, iwouldn't have labelled him that, but what he has done is he has improved certain elements of his game, his serve in particular has come on, we made some small technical changes there. but mostly about his decision when he's on the court. he has some huge weapons in his game

and it often comes down to those small decisions in big moments and he's been able to execute them on the biggest stage and it gives him a lot of belief so that when he goes out on the court against these best players he is able to execute his best tennis. does he feel the pressure, will he have felt the pressure going into today? i'm sure he has his own expectations. he's always been aware that his tennis has been very good. it's being able to repeat that on a daily basis, and over the course of the last ten days he has been exceptional at doing that over the course of five sets, in very tough conditions. and what it does is it really solidifies the work that has been done and gives him a lot of confidence moving into the rest of the year. can he reach the final? why not? when it gets to this stage in the tournament with only four players there he has a great chance. he's going to need to play well and cilic is an exceptional player who has won grand slams, been in a final, he beat

kyle in the autumn last year and it's going to be a tough match but there is no reason why kyle can't out there and win. it's really going to come down to some very small margins today. thank you, mark, thanks for your time. no problem. let's speaker amanda owens, world ranked tennis player and leading sports psychologist who currently works with players on the world tour. also chrisjones, a tennis writer and trevor loten, a tennis coach at kyle edmund's old big smile from trevor despite kyle being one set down already. how do you think he's doing, trevor? he's taking a bit of time to get going and there isa bit of time to get going and there is a medical time—out, not sure what the problem is. his comeback from behind in several matches so far so i'm not unduly worried at this point. are you, chris? i'm worried because if you go for a medical

time—out and go into the locker room it usually means it's somewhere you don't want the rest of the public to see where you are hurting which means around the groin, top of the lake. he's played tennis in tough conditions in australia. ijust hope isiekwe he will last, his body has been through an awful lot. he's done brilliantly to get this far but it's not been the best 35 minutes of this tournament, lost the first set 6—2 and now injured. we will update our audience to see what happens. you expect him to come out, chris? yeah, he will continue, the medical guys around the atp are fantastic and it would take something big for kyle not continue. he will give everything. if the injury allows him to keep playing it would be very unusual for him to drop out of a semifinal. he will give absolutely everything. let me bring in amanda. i mentioned to mark hilton that kyle edmund had been described as a

chokerin edmund had been described as a choker in the past and he didn't like that label, absolutely fair enough. some people have said mentally he hasn't been that resilient but that's changed. what work will the have done for him for that to change? absolutely. the change has been remarkable. i think choker is a bit tough. he wasn't so good under pressure and he crumbled. there is a clear change. i think they've been doing pressure training with him, increased the intensity of training. what is pressure training? simulating matches. he has his base in the bahamas and they will have been doing heat training. there is clearly a difference, working on all areas of his game, but mainly the mental side has improved dramatically. there are different ways that the coaches and sports psychologists can work with him to improve how he deals with pressure situations. in tennis there are critical points and key moments and clearly he's improved on that. this week has been incredible, he has

taken out some top seeds and it's just how he's dealing with the big points, and indeed the fact that he has come back from behind and is showing real resilience. how worried are you about this time—out for injury? he has had a time-out before with his shoulder, so i'm not unduly worried. his body has been battered but i think he is showing a very high level of fitness at the moment, and mentally he is incredibly tough. i'm not unduly worried but i think he will come back out. he has shown he will come back out. he has shown he can win the tough five set matches. trevor, does he look almost like a different player to you? he has gained a massive amount of confidence over the course of these two weeks, and i think having the new coaching team on board really has done wonders for that. he also looks in the best physical shape he has ever been and hopefully the only way is up. what was he like when he

was ten? he was talented at a lot of sports, football and cricket, and he holds some records at the prep school for athletics. so, a very talented all— round school for athletics. so, a very talented all—round sportsman. he first came to my attention when he was about ten years old and i got him into the under 12 north and schools tournament with his partner, and they won that and he was a year below the rest of the field so that was a tremendous achievement. it was clear even at that point that if he wanted to take tennis seriously than he could be a very good player. why did he choose tennis if he was good at that and football and cricket and athletics? did you hear me, trevor? can you hear me, trevor? technical hitch, it has come back on. it wasn't an amazing question but why did he choose tennis over other sports he was clearly good at? i'm not sure, to be honest. he obviously

got the bug, he started coaching at david lloyd in hull and i think that was the decision he made and i'm so pleased he did. chris, how good is he? well, he is our hope. i know we usually just have one he? well, he is our hope. i know we usuallyjust have one hope and we have been very lucky with andy murray but andy has taken a long time to look at kyle and help him both mentally and physically and helped him at his florida camps. that's been important because he has spotted in kyle visibility, because he has a weapon to be a world—class player and that forehand is a weapon, you can't get into the top players if you don't have something like that and he has shown in this tournament what that forehand can do. now it is about getting the experience. if it doesn't go great todayit experience. if it doesn't go great today it doesn't matter because he has made it to a semifinal and you can't buy that sort of experience and mentally he will be some stronger because of this experience. last year he was 5—1 up in the final

set against jack sock in paris and crumbled. it is only a few months away. the new coaching team has made away. the new coaching team has made a great difference to him and i believe he will step into the shoes, not exactly the same as andy because he's been brilliant for british tennis, but he's going to be there for us with this young group of players on the world stage. thank you very much, chris and trevor, and amanda. cilic has taken the first set and is one game up in the second set. there is a lot of work for kyle edmund to do. you can listen to the ha rd edmund to do. you can listen to the hard work he's put a on the court right now on 5 live, and there will be highlights at 4:45pm on bbc two this afternoon. this is interesting. shops, cafes and businesses will offer free water refill points in every major city and town in england by 2021. water uk says its scheme could cut disposable plastic bottle used by tens of millions a year, which is good because we all seem to

be growing increasingly worried about the effect of plastic waste on the environment. with me now is water uk's chief executive, michael roberts. how will this work? companies, shops, businesses, cafes sign up to offer free tap water for people to fill up the bottles, they put a sticker on the window, we provide a national app so on the move you can find out where a free refill point is and top up. there are 30 cities across england doing this already, how is it going? it is going well but it is early days. we were inspired by the grass roots campaign that started in places like bristol. tell our audience about that. what was going on in bristol? local campaigners who are passionate about removing plastics from our environment in bristol, which is a city which has great historical reference to the sea, so it is about the city almost repaying the sea for the city almost repaying the sea for the wealth that was generated for the wealth that was generated for

the city in the past, by trying to remove the scourge of plastic waste in all of our waterways, notjust the sea. in bristol there are 2000 regular users of the app and many more who use the scheme on a kind of ad hoc basis, passing by shops, they see the stick and go in and refill for free, see the stick and go in and refill forfree, and in that see the stick and go in and refill for free, and in that way hopefully we are cutting the use of single use plastic bottles in the environment. this estimate of cutting use by tens of millions of pounds sorry, tens of millions of bottles per year, how many? how do you estimate that? so, every day in this country about 16 million plastic bottles end up either going to landfill, or clogging up our rivers, or polluting the environment locally or globally. by the environment locally or globally. by getting people, not every time necessarily, but as regularly as they can, to choose to refill their reusable bottle rather than buying a bottle in the supermarket we can make a real difference. are there

any concerns about hygiene or not? we do need to be careful about that. what is the concern? inevitably when, for example, if we start to see more public waterfountains when, for example, if we start to see more public water fountains we need to make sure they are properly maintained and properly designed, rather than just being a simple reincarnation of victorian water fountains. but this isn'tjust about water fountains, as i fountains. but this isn'tjust about waterfountains, as i said, this is about shops and cafes which have dispensing points anyway to make it easy for people to get access to what is actually in this country some of the best drinking water in the world. people can forget that. but we have some of the greatest tap water in the world. things i didn't know, we have some of the greatest tap water in the world. i suppose it is quite obvious but i have never thought of it like that. we take it for granted. i know we pay for it but we take it for granted. we do ta ke but we take it for granted. we do take it for granted, it doesn't come about easily, the water has to be

collected, treated, stored and dispensed through a network of of pipes. the amazing thing is that through huge investment over the last 30 years we have moved from being the dirty man of europe to providing world—class quality tap water and it's great value. if you refill a bottle in one of these refill a bottle in one of these refill points it costs a fraction of a penny. if you buy it in the supermarket it costs more than 300 times that. phenomenal value. supermarket it costs more than 300 times that. phenomenalvalue. enough said. thank you, michael. still to come. the law ofjoint enterprise: where someone can be convicted of murder even if they did not inflict the fatal blow. two years ago the supreme court ruled it had been wrongly interpreted. what's changed ? and more on the fall out of the men—only charity gala where hostesses were harassed

and groped by attendees. brian has e—mailed on this: well done, media. well done. you deprive much—needed money for great ormond street hospital, over 500,000 pounds lost and staying in people's pocket. the result event is always as —— the event is always a success and these women are not making official complaint. they also do not complain when the attend women only night which are also a great way to support charities. we will talk to norman smith at westminster about the reprimand that the families minister has had for to that event. time for the latest news — here's carol. the education minister nadhim zahawi has been reprimanded by no 10 for attending a men—only charity

dinner. mr zahawi attended the presidents club's function at the dorchester hotel, where women employed as hostesses say they were groped. the minister said he felt uncomfortable and left the event early. the charity commission says it's investigating the allegations "as a matter of urgency". theresa may will use a speech at the world economic forum in switzerland to put more pressure on technology companies like facebook and twitter to tackle extremist material online. she'll be speaking in davos just hours before she meets us president donald trump — their first meeting since she criticised him for sharing racist videos tweeted by the far—right group, britain first. the us president, donald trump, says he's ‘looking forward' to being interviewed by robert mueller — the fbi's special counsel investigating allegations of russian interference in the us elections. in a heated exchange, the president told reporters he would give testimony under oath, and said he expected to be questioned by mr mueller within two

to three weeks. reporter: would you do it under oath, mr president. you mean like hillary did? who said that? i said that, would you do it under oath? you said it. oh, you said it. you say a lot. did hillary do it under oath? i think you have an idea. wait, you don't have an idea? you really don't have an idea? i really don't remember. i'll give you an idea — she didn't do it under oath. you won't? i would do it and you know she didn't do it under oath. the port of calais has been closed after a blockade by french fisherman.

p&o ferries has called on french authorities to clear the demonstrators ‘without delay.‘ it's thought the protest is about losses french fisherman say are inflicted by some countries‘ use of electrified fishing nets. plans to set up tens of thousands of free water refill points across england are being announced today. water uk, which represents water companies and suppliers, says it wants to expand a refill scheme first launched in 2015. it hopes this will help reduce pollution caused by plastic bottles being thrown away. that‘s a summary of the latest bbc news. here‘s some sport now with kat downes. kyle edmund is a set down in his australian open semi final against against marin cilic. playing in his first grand slam semi final — he lost the first set 6—2 against the world number four. simona halep fought a real battle against 2016 champion angelique kerber — but the world number one came

through and will face caroline wozniaki in the final. new england women‘s boss phil neville won‘t face fa charges — despite tweets in 2011 and 2012 that were disparaging to women. back to you. just in, the latest crime figures for england and wales for the 12 months to the end of september 20 17th. compared to the previous year, crimes recorded by the police, violent crime is up 20%, knife crime up violent crime is up 20%, knife crime up 21%, robberies up 29%, sexual offences up 23%. there is a separate crime survey which is based on interviews with 35,000 households. that suggests that crime continues to fall. two lots of figures, one is the crime survey, interviews with

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level, inflict grievous bodily harm. it was a test of foresight, not intention. that led to a lot of people who were too morally removed from the crime, bit part players or people who weren‘t playing a part at all, being scooped up in the net and being convicted of murder. many of them are serving life sentences. that was the concern. in 2016, the supreme court had a look at this, and extraordinarily, an incredible moment, the president of the supreme court said the law had taken a wrong turn in applying that foresight test in 1984, that the law had been wrong since then. that appeared to open a doorfor since then. that appeared to open a door for those people who since then. that appeared to open a doorfor those people who had been convicted, they felt, on this low—level foresight test. since that time, the door that has been opened has then been firmly shut by the court of appeal. a raft of cases

have gone to the court of appeal, and it has rejected every single one of them. one of the key issues at the heart of this debate today is that the supreme court said that if an appeal was being brought out of time, in other words late, and you normally have 28 days to bring an appeal, you have to show that there was a substantial injustice. that is the controversial issue at the heart of all of this. it is for that reason that campaigners believe the door that was opened by the supreme court has been firmly shut, and that leads to this debate today. what might be the outcome of the debate, if anything? campaigners would like a the law now. the fact that this has gone to the highest court in the land, gone back to the court of appeal, this would now need some change in the law, with parliament intervening to change the law. we have a big issue with the law of murder. we don‘t have degrees of

murder, as they have in the united states. we simply have murder, and if you are convicted, you get a life sentence. the law commission looked at this years ago, and they called our law of homicide a rickety structure. one way around this in the long term would be for us to have degrees of murder. thank you, clive. now let‘s talk to sally halsall — mum of alex henry who was convicted in 2014 for the joint enterprise murder of taqui khezihi. she has been campaigning for law change since he was convicted — and charlotte henry — alex‘s sister. thank you, both, very much for coming onto the programme. i want to ta ke coming onto the programme. i want to take you back, first of all, to what clive was telling us about. when the supreme court, the highest in the land, ruled that this law had been wrongly interpreted for more than 30 yea rs, wrongly interpreted for more than 30 years, what did you think would happen with your son‘s case,

convicted of murder on joint enterprise and serving a very long prison sentence? i thought he would come home. that it would be as simple as that? i thought, they will get it through the appeal court quickly, he will come home. and so will all the other prisoners, all 750 of them that we support in our campaign group. and that hasn't happened, charlotte, because you have had to prove that there was a substantial injustice. how difficult is that to prove? it is an incredibly high legal burden, impossibly high, usually when there has been an error at trial, and the court of appeal will look to see the conviction is unsafe, which means looking at the error and understanding whether it might reasonably have made a difference to the jury's verdict. the court will look to see whether the defendant

has proved that the change in the law 100% would have made a difference. bearing in mind, even under the current law, you can be convicted for your presence at the scene. if presence continues to be enough, how can we prove that the change in the law would have made a difference? why is it required for an appeal to prove substantial injustice for thejoint an appeal to prove substantial injustice for the joint enterprise law as opposed to any other offence? it is called the principle of certainty that they look at. the idea is that there is a final point where the law is the law and no one can appeal past that point. that is why we have a 28 day time frame in which someone can appeal, based on an error of law. anyone passed the 28 days, to uphold the principle of uncertain —— of certainty,... 28 days, to uphold the principle of uncertain -- of certainty,... does it seem unfair, unequal, compared to

other attempts to appeal a crime? it seem unfair, unequal, compared to other attempts to appeal a crime7m seems unjust. the court are saying that anything short of substantial injustice, regardless of it being still in injustice, is ok, which is ludicrous, considering it is called the justice system. ludicrous, considering it is called thejustice system. in ludicrous, considering it is called the justice system. in terms of the day‘s debate in the commons, what are you hoping for? we are hoping for a change in the law. obviously, i‘m hoping my son will come home. but there are so many families that have joined the growing army of our campaign group, because they haven‘t stopped convicting people under the net ofjoint enterprise. young people, most recently, we have had a flurry of 13 and 14—year—olds getting life. in most of the cases,

they are minimum mandatory sentences, so my son got 19 years and he has to serve every single one of those before he can even consider getting parole. and you say he was a bystander, effectively? the individual who committed the fatal blow pleaded guilty. your son, you say, was simply a bystander. literally, you know, in other cases, he would have been a witness. he didn‘t do anything to hurt anybody on that day. we have fought so hard with the group to get them all out, but particularly, we are fighting for alex because he‘s my son, obviously, but he also has autism and isa obviously, but he also has autism and is a vulnerable adult. this is what the net ofjoint enterprise does, it captures the vulnerable, and it is... it destroys families, and it is... it destroys families, and there is a great ripple effect of the damage it causes. we have

had, you know, a prisoner, you know, tidying, we have had one of the mothers committing suicide. it is absolutely devastating, and this is our justice system. they absolutely devastating, and this is ourjustice system. they are doing this knowingly, knowingly, and they should be convicted underjoint enterprise. it is a dreadful, dreadful thing that they are doing to so many families, and it has to stop. and our group are making a noise. yes, we are a bunch of noisy women, and we‘re not going away. a man lost his life, your brother was there, and the jury decided that he was guilty ofjoint enterprise murder. we have to remember the victim‘s family here, don‘t we? murder. we have to remember the victim's family here, don't we? of course, victim's family here, don't we? of course , our victim's family here, don't we? of course, our loss does not compare to their loss, not at all. i can visit my brother, i can speak to him on the phone, they have to visit a graveside and also the brother of

the victim was there and saw that happen and we never forget that but i can't lose my brother too for 19 years, can't wait until he's 40 to get him home, it's not fair. charlotte, you a re get him home, it's not fair. charlotte, you are motivated to go into more because of what‘s happened to your brother and you are a trainee lawyer now, is that correct? yes, i think it's important to know your enemy yes, i think it's important to know yourenemy and the yes, i think it's important to know your enemy and the law is my enemy. sol your enemy and the law is my enemy. so i will try and be as good as i can add it. thank you both for talking to us today and we will see what comes out and emerges from this debate in the commons, the first time they have talked about it. we will see what happens. thank you for coming onto the programme. some breaking newsjustin forsyth the number of people sleeping rough on the streets of england has reached the highest level since current records began. new figures for the department for housing, communities and local government showed an estimated 4751 people were sleeping rough last autumn. it‘s

measured on one might across england. this e—mail from measured on one might across england. this e—mailfrom david: i‘ve been asking you if you have slept rough, what were the circumstances and what happened, what effect it had on you and how did you get yourself out of it? david says i‘ve experienced being homeless for a while, dramatic time in my life, i was depressed, addicted to alcohol and drugs. to me it was an ever increasing vicious circle which ended only when i was sent to prison due to my anti—social behaviour. i sought help and thanks to the aid by self—help groups i found the motivation and belief to rebuild my life. today i am happy and content with life and often see homeless people on the streets and remember having a broken spirit and seeing life as a massive struggle. i hope they too break the cycle. we are going to talk or about who have slept rough after 10:30am. if it has happened to you please send me an e—mail or a message on facebook, you don‘t have to leave your name, just soi don‘t have to leave your name, just so i can feed your experiences in to

the debate. the culture secretary matt hancock is welcoming the closure of the presidents club organisation, after hostesses at its men—only charity gala in london said they were harassed and groped. the event was attended by senior figures from business, finance and politics. downing street says theresa may has been appalled by the reports. our political guru, norman smith, is at westminster. she must have raised her eyebrows in particular at the fact that one of her ministers recently promoted to ministerial level was there. this was nadhim zahawi, who is the children‘s minister, who went to this event and as a result of that he was hauled in yesterday by the chief whip and reminded of his responsibilities. i imagine he is a thoroughly chastened man by now. he says he went there and was uncomfortable with what was going on and left early at about 9:30pm, so perhaps before things got even more out of hand. i don‘t think there is

any question of him being sacked or removed from his post. there does not seem to be any suggestion that might happen. but i imagine for many mps and many ministers it has been a sort of wake—up call to think about the sort of events they accept invitations to, and nadhim zahawi, when he emerged from his house this morning, he was keeping his counsel. just have a look. why did you attend a male only dinner? so, no words from mr —— nadhim zahawi this morning. one of the things being looked at is whether anything can be done to try and ensure such events can happen again. there have been all sorts of demands, for example, the equalities act to be toughened up, to be given real teeth. there have been

suggestions the charities commission should be more focused rather than just seeing what different fundraising events are like and whether they should be able to claim they are charities. the difficulty is there are laws already in place. i was having a look at the equalities act and that already says it is an offence to engage in degrading or humiliating behaviour, to violate someone‘s dignity, sexual harassment. those are already offences. barroso criminal offences offences. barroso criminal offences of indecent assault and sexual assault so be offences are already there. —— there are also criminal offences. it‘s more about trying to change the culture, all the more so because of the recent scandals we have had at westminster. that, i think, was what the minister this morning when he was talking about it, matthew hancock, was driving at. that has to be the real consequence of the publicity surrounding the presidents club. i understand that mr zahawi

was invited because it was a charity event, and left early because he was uncomfortable with it. that's what i understand. i understand he's spoken to the chief whip, but there's a much bigger thing here, which is that we should get away from the sorts of events where men and women are treated very differently and that there are reports of some pretty terrible behaviour. interesting too i thought how mrs may‘s language during the day yesterday toughened up as the sort of scale and outrage built. initially no 10 said she was uncomfortable by what she had read in the paper. by the end of the day she said she was appalled, and of course called for nadhim zahawi to be called in. i think she gradually realised just the nature of outrage,

not just at westminster but more broadly about what had gone on at the presidents club. matt hancock talking in davos where theresa may is on her way, she is going to give a speech and also meet donald trump. it will be interesting if we could be there to see how they get on. they have had that sort of twitter spat and he has cancelled his trip here. all the indications are that mrs may and the uk are not flavour of the month. in part because of that twitter spat. you may remember when donald trump tweeted theresa may directly saying they need to be focused on radical islam and mrs may criticising donald trump for his support of far right groups. but it is more than that, you sense we have beenjumped is more than that, you sense we have been jumped in the is more than that, you sense we have beenjumped in the queue is more than that, you sense we have been jumped in the queue by the likes of president macron and others and mrs may has quite a lot of catching up to do today to try and

heal the apparent rift with donald trump, made all the more important quite obviously because of brexit and the fact we really, really do need those new trade deals with countries outside the eu command front of the list of course has to be the united states. thank you very much. coming up. britain‘s kyle edmund is on court, as he attempts to reach his first grand slam final against marin cilic at the australian open. he is currently one set down and it‘s going to serve in the second set, currently 4—4. those are pictures from a previous match obviously, that‘s not happening right now. we will ask what is behind the success of british tennis, although that question might bea tennis, although that question might be a bit premature. new crime figures have been released this morning. danny shaw is outside the office for national statistics in central london. there are two sets of figures, talk our audience through them. as always there are two sets of crime figures, there are

offences reported to and recorded by police in england and wales by 44 forces including british transport police, then a separate set of data, which is the crime survey of england and wales, based on interviews with 35,000 households, and wales, based on interviews with 35, 000 households, and and wales, based on interviews with 35,000 households, and includes offences that are not reported to police. crime survey is good at predicting and showing and estimating longer term levels of crime. it is not so good at certain smaller categories of crime, particularly certain categories of violent crime. so, the picture is this. in terms of the crime survey, crimes are still on a downward trend, that‘s what the survey is saying. down by 10% overall, and thatis saying. down by 10% overall, and that is largely driven by an unexpected drop in fraud and computer misuse act fences, down 15% year—on—year, according to the crime survey. this is the first time we have been able to get an accurate comparison of fraud and computer misuse act fences according to the

survey data. those are the long—term trends. when we come to the police recorded figures, crimes police have to deal with, what we are seeing is an upward trend, 14% year—on—year, 14% rise in police recorded crimes and there are some sharp increases in certain areas, violent crime up 20%, sexual offences up 23%, robberies up 29%, car crime up 18% and thefts up 12%, and when you look in the categories of violent they are particularly concerning with increases of knife crime up 21% with knife possession offences up 35%, the highest it has been since around 2009. look at the homicide figures. i always like to look at the homicide figures because these are not prone to any changes in recording practices. what they show

when you take out the terror related deaths from the attacks this year and hillsborough deaths counted in last year‘s figures, if you take those away you see 650 homicides, a rise of 57 killings year—on—year. that is showing that at the top bend the most serious levels of violence are definitely going up. from your long experience of covering this area, what might be your views on why violent crime is up, knife crime is up, robbery is up, and homicide is up, robbery is up, and homicide is up? it is difficult to say. is it to do with the fact there are fewer police officers on the streets and there are fewer police officers perhaps able to attend events which might lead to a murder later on, for example domestic violence? is it because there are fewer stops and searches being conducted ? because there are fewer stops and searches being conducted? those are questions that are being asked and that is certainly what the police would say is contributing to it.

could it be something to do with the fa ct could it be something to do with the fact that there are more people in work, people have more disposable income, they spend more on drink, they get involved in fights and that contributes to violence? could it be to do with other factors we are not aware of? it is a difficult one and there are no simple answers. danny shaw, our home affairs correspondent, reporting from the national office for statistics. we are going to talk to four people who have experience of crime, some are victims, some work with ex—offenders, and we are going to talk about that in the next half an hour. the latest news and sport on the way at 10am but before that the weather. good morning, different sort of day on the weight today compared to yesterday. yesterday we saw wet and windy and mild weather, which had a consequence on the rivers in parts of scotland and northern england —— on the way. this was dumfries yesterday, this behind me isa was dumfries yesterday, this behind me is a river whose, snowmelt and

mild weather and rain sending river levels rising and they could rise again this weekend. that will push in on saturday bringing heavy rain, storm georgina is off out of the way but we are into cooler air at the moment and these clusters of cloud pushing across the western half of the uk at the moment meaning many eastern areas get a lunchtime staying largely dry but the showers will work their way further eased into the afternoon. some longer spells of heavy and bunbury rain across parts of northern and western england and wales and southern scotla nd england and wales and southern scotland —— thundery. are still a few showers in northern scotland but throughout the central belt of scotland it could stay dry but temperatures dropping rapidly. northern ireland will see showers come and go in the afternoon and into the evening but by the time we hit the evening rush hour it is northern england, the south—west continuing to seek every showers, the odd dry spell in between but some of the driest weather along with central scotland could be across east anglia and part of the south—east where there will be few showers in the forecast. there is a

breeze blowing today, it will slow down tonight, a few showers across england and wales tonight, one to continue into the morning for carmarthenshire and pembrokeshire and into cornwall, but more likely to see showers in the north—east of scotland, central and eastern england, so in the west clearer skies, colder than last night, widespread frost across western areas, maybe a bit i see in a few areas, maybe a bit i see in a few areas, the morning rush—hour saint—cloud, a few showers in north—east england fading away into the afternoon, leaving most of you with the week —— some bad. lighter winds and not feeling too bad at all. this is a developing weather system, some stormy weather between us and iceland, wet and windy for us in the uk. that wet weather spreading across quickly from west to east thanks to the strength of the wind, severe gale force in the north of scotland and showers in its wake. temperatures in double figures continuing with the mild air into

sunday, even mild as south—westerly winds take hold forjust about all. there will be some rain across scotland, heavy at times, that and further snowmelt means river levels could rise, furtherflooding not out of the question. for many on sunday the dry of the two days on sunday, brighter spells in central and eastern areas and one or two spots could hit 15 degrees. that‘s how it is looking. thank you very much. good morning, hello, it‘s 10am, thursday, i‘m victoria derbyshire. crime figures just released show a rise in the number of violent offences recorded by police. but a separate survey of households suggests overall, crime has continued to fall. in the category of violent crime, there are concerning increases in knife crime, up 21%, with knife possession and possession —— offences at the highest it has been

since 2009. we will talk to people have been the victims of crime and those who are trying to stop offensive taking place. theresa may is at davos to give a speech at the world economic forum. donald trump has just arrived in zurich aboard air force one, donald trump has just arrived in zurich aboard airforce one, en route to davos. we will be live in davos later this hour. and kyle edmund is on court in the semifinal of the australian open, where he is one set down to marin cilic, and it is 5—5 in the second set. one set down to marin cilic, and it is 5-5 in the second set. he has come back in matches so far, so i am not unduly worried at this point. his matches live on five live at the moment. the education minister nadhim zahawi

has been reprimanded by number 10 for attending the men—only charity dinner. is mr zahawi attended the presidents club‘s function at the dorchester hotel, where women employed as hostesses say they were groped. the minister said he felt uncomfortable and left the event early. the charity commission says it is investigating the allegations as a matter of urgency. the latest crime figures for england and wales shows crimes recorded by police increased by 14% in the year to september 2017. violent crime was up 20% and there were also increases in robbery and sexual offences. the separate crime survey — based on interviews with 35,000 households — suggests that crime is not a common experience for most people. theresa may will use a speech at the world economic forum in switzerland to put more pressure on technology companies like facebook and twitter to tackle extremist material online.

she‘ll be speaking in davos just hours before she meets us president donald trump, their first meeting since she criticised him for sharing racist videos tweeted by the far—right group, britain first. the us president, donald trump, says he‘s ‘looking forward‘ to being interviewed by robert mueller — the fbi‘s special counsel investigating allegations of russian interference in the us elections. in a heated exchange, the president told reporters he would give testimony under oath, and said he expected to be questioned by mr mueller within two to three weeks. reporter: would you do it under oath, mr president. you mean like hillary did? who said that? i said that, would you do it under oath? oh, you said it. you say a lot. did hillary do it under oath? i think you have an idea. wait, you don't have an idea? you really don't have an idea? i really don‘t remember. i'll give you an idea — she didn't do it under oath. you won‘t? i would do it and you know she didn't do it under oath.

at least two people have died and several others injured after a train derailed near the city of milan. the regional train was travelling towards milan‘s porta garibaldi station and derailed around the town of segrate. there are reports that emergency services are still trying to rescue people trapped inside. the number of rough sleepers has reached the highest level since records began. there were 4751 people sleeping rough in 2017. data suggests that the number has risen by 128% since 2010. the port of calais has been closed after a blockade by french fishermen. p&o ferries has called on french authorities to clear the demonstrators ‘without delay.‘ it‘s thought the protest is about losses french fisherman say are inflicted by some countries‘ use of electrified fishing nets.

that‘s a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10:30am. we will talk about rough sleeping in the last half—hour of the programme. richard says this: i am a counsellor now, but i slept rough at paddington station for two nights some years ago. i bought the wrong rail ticket andi ago. i bought the wrong rail ticket and i couldn‘t get back to stoke. it was freezing cold and i had to curl up around a light in the floor to keep warm. i was totally ignored by commuters and staff. it only lasted two days, but i will never forget it. barbara says: we were homeless for a year. the local council wouldn‘t have my family, some in the end, we stayed down by the river in a tent. the only way we got help was going to our local church. this viewer says: iam nearly

going to our local church. this viewer says: i am nearly 30, going to our local church. this viewer says: iam nearly 30, but between the ages of 14 and 21, i was on and off homeless. if i wasn‘t lucky enough to stop on someone‘s so far, i would sleep in parks, usually around the play equipment area, or in 24—hour toilets. the main place was a 24—hour women‘s toilet where i would sleep on the counter. i was 15, 16 at the would sleep on the counter. i was 15,16 at the time, and i would use the hand dryer for warmth the hand dryerfor warmth in the winter. thank you for those, do keep them coming in. catherine is back with the sport. how is our kyle doing? he is battling to stay in it. he is one set down in the semifinals. marin cilic took that first set. if kyle edmund can come back and win this match, he will overta ke back and win this match, he will overtake andy murray as british number one. never mind getting into the final of the australian open, of

course. the women‘s trophy will have a new champion because neither simona halep. caroline wozniacki have won a grand slam before. simona halep beat angelique kerber, winning the decider 9—7. extraordinary tennis from both women. arsenal beat chelsea last night. chelsea already had a goal disallowed by the time eden hazard put them ahead. arsenal were soon back level, and doubled the direction —— a double deflection... is they will face manchester city in next month‘s final. is they will face manchester city in next month's final. in the end, i would say, yes, it was a little bit ofa would say, yes, it was a little bit of a deflected goal on the first, and the second as well was a bit

lucky. overall, ifelt and the second as well was a bit lucky. overall, i felt we controlled the game well in the second half. rangers jump above aberdeen. john mcginn‘s goal was enough to seal victory for the burning. ross county lost the motherwell. celtic are still 11 points clear at the top. england women‘s new head coach phil neville won‘t face any disciplinary action from the fa over historic old sexist tweets. he apparently assume that women would be cooking brea kfast that women would be cooking breakfast rather than reading his tweets. the women in football groups say more attention should be paid to have the next women‘s coaches can be brought through. engel‘s moeen ali has been talking about the determination in the cab. england are looking to avenge their ashes defeat with a series whitewash in the one—day tournament. ashes defeat with a series whitewash in the one-day tournament. this is the one series you really want a whitewash in. especially in

australia. i don‘t think we‘ve ever been 3—0 up here before. it is something that all the guys, after the ashes, even the one—day players are keen. kyle edmund is into the second set tie—break in the australian open semifinal. when this one and he is very much in it. lose it and it is an awful long way back. it is. thank you. we will keep you updated, of course. new crime figures released this morning for england and wales reveal that violent crime levels — such as knife and gun crime — have continued to increase. the separate crime survey for england and wales shows that crime is not a common experience for most people, with eight in ten adults surveyed saying they were not a victim of crime. we are bringing together for my people who‘ve seen the effects of crime close—up. in the studio we have sephton henry, a former gang member who now works

to prevent gang related crime, rishi chodhury who was conned out of several thousand pounds when someone gained access to his paypal account, rachel thomas of saferplaces who works to support victims of domestic abuse, and from chelmsford we can speak to caroline shearer whose sonjay was killed in a knife attack in 2012. how do you react to the news that one crime survey says that crime has been falling, but the figures show that crime has gone up a decent? surveys aren‘t worth the paper they‘re written on, to be fair. you could go out and it is potluck. we all know that crime is going up. we haven‘t got enough police on the floor. they are running around like headless chickens chasing their tails. they are arresting people, doing theirjob. thejudicial system

is the people who are letting us down. there are no deterrence, no mandatory sentences. gangs are running riot. they are not actually gangs, they are profitable businesses. and unless we start putting deterrence in place to prove we‘re not playing about, we will be overrun. the army may even be called m, overrun. the army may even be called in, because it is getting to the stage now, you saw yourself how many people were killed on new year‘s eve, and that was without stabbings and shootings. the way you describe it, it sounds pretty apocalyptic. i wonder if rachel, sefton and ritchie recognise the picture that caroline is painting? yes, i recognise it, but as a former gang member myself, no sentence or anything would change me. i've been to prison seven times. i've been shot at, stabbed, ricked and bottled. —— bricked. the thing

that change me was receiving a mental, a father figure. there was a statistic saying that the majority of people in prisons have absent fathers. whenever is no discipline, thatis fathers. whenever is no discipline, that is when the children run riot. and we are talking about children. so, in terms of thinking about a possible jail term, it was never a consideration for you in stopping you from continuing your life in crime? definitely, because there we re root causes crime? definitely, because there were root causes that needed to be dealt with. i had mental health issues, rejection issues. let caroline react. what do you say to sefton? you know, unfortunately, i'm sorry you had such a bad childhood, but, for me, and for the majority of the public, if you‘ve been to prison seven times, prison isn‘t working. therefore, prison isn‘t the deterrent it should be. it shouldn‘t

bea deterrent it should be. it shouldn‘t be a comfort which you don‘t mind going to. it should be hard slog, paying your dues back to society for the people you‘ve attacked and people you‘ve harm. where are all these people for the victims‘ families? sefton, if it had been harder injail, would you have thought, i don‘t want to go back, and would you have turned things round earlier? what is harder than getting shot at, stabbed? was that inside? that was outside. what is harder than that? when i was in prison, you couldn't really... yeah. so, the lifestyle you the... that is what caroline is saying — make prison harder. there was not much thatis prison harder. there was not much that is harder than what happens on the streets. it's not going to really affect us. we are so desensitised to violence and stuff like that, it's not that. i'm not talking violence. i‘m talking a deterrent. a strict deterrent of, you‘re in prison, and not

necessarily bread and water, but certainly not sky tv, pool tables, jims —— gymnasiums, and things that people can‘t afford to get ordinarily. prison at the moment is like a hotel, i‘m sorry. we have prison guards on our board, and able tell us exactly the same. prisoners rule the prisons, the same as children at the moment are ruling our streets. we are the adults and we now have to stand up and say no. let me bring in ritchie and rachel. -- rishi. let me bring in ritchie and rachel. —— rishi. you were defrauded of £2000 after someone hacked your paypal account. figures for computer misuse and fraud are down by 10%, according to the survey, but tell us what happened to you.|j

according to the survey, but tell us what happened to you. i was on holiday and got a text saying that this money has come out of your account and it has been blocked until we figure out what has happened. i called up and found out that a couple of thousand pounds had been taken up, which is not great when you are on holiday. from there, tha n kfu lly when you are on holiday. from there, thankfully i got it back pretty quickly. it happens very regularly, andl quickly. it happens very regularly, and i see it a lot with people around me as well. obviously, that is because someone is hacking your account, but is it because we are lazy with changing passwords?” think it is. you have to change your passwords regularly, have strong passwords regularly, have strong passwords and not it makes big difference. —— and not one, two, three, four, five. we have seen a lot of cyber security start—ups come about in the last few years, disruptive technology being there to

help secure consumers but also large companies, because they hold mark—up validator than ever before. —— they hold more of our data than ever before. that is another big area is where we can do our part, but also, the companies need to be able to do their part and make sure that the day—to—day are storing a say. —— the data that they are storing. rachel, from safer spaces, we don‘t have a specific category of computer misuse offences. i wonder if that is all that revealing because so many victims of domestic abuse don‘t come forward anyway. it is difficult to draw inference from the data, the levels of domestic abuse and coercive control, the nature of it makes it difficult for people to disclose to the police or in a survey if they are ina the police or in a survey if they are in a relationship at the time,

it‘s going to be difficult for them to access that survey. do you feel that when it comes to crimes involving domestic abuse that people are more courageous, broadly speaking, to come forward, or still not? there is increasing confidence in public services, in the police response the intervention that we can protective measures, the fact we talk about domestic abuse enables us to help recognise what abusive behaviour is. but i think people still suffer in silence. the crime survey doesn‘t ask the question to people aged over the age of 59, and research from king‘s college tells us that 1.6% of those aged over 60 are suffering in abusive relationships, eitherfrom are suffering in abusive relationships, either from an intimate partner or ex—partner or a member of their own family. huge cross sections of society are being mist. what would you say to someone

watching who believes they are in an abusive environment or relationship, but are worried, scared, terrified about asking for help? that there is support available, it‘s completely confidential. what should they do? find out the local support services, or cool our helpline and we can provide details of that and then we can talk them through because there area can talk them through because there are a lot more options than there used to be and they will be believed. sephton, let me ask you about your work and i want to ask caroline about her work because she goes into schools in essex and london to talk to people is about knife crime and what happened to her sunjay, knife crime and what happened to her sun jay, but in knife crime and what happened to her sunjay, but in terms of your work, sephton, what are you trying to do to prevent gang—related crime?” work for a company cold gangs line and we deliver training on understanding gangs and understanding gangs and understanding the lifestyle up—and—down the country. loss of things about gangs is very violent

and things like that but nobody talks about loving the person, nobody talks about those things. when we see a victim we are easily feeling some sort of sympathy and things like that, of course, but at the same time if we don't deal with the same time if we don't deal with the problem then it's going to escalate. so we know that if we understand them then we will be able to get through to them. caroline, do you accept that? no, not at all. you know, gang is a business, as i've said before. it's a multi—billion pound business. you can talk to kids about gangs, but unfortunately, please don't take any offence over this, sephton, but we have a gang member trying to teach our children not to go into a gang, a gang member who has been in prison seven times, that now has a job and is being paid, so what is that telling our children? we are sending mixed

messages, telling our children it is 0k, messages, telling our children it is ok, you can be in a gang fora messages, telling our children it is ok, you can be in a gang for a while but don't worry you will end up getting a jobjust like me. what would you say to that? sorry, caroline, i‘m a perfect example of change, i‘m on a team with international human rights at the commonwealth secretariat. i became an expert at nhs england. i train all government staff from probation to youth workers and go into police stations now. so, for me, the change when somebody gave me the chance, because my upbringing, i got beaten asa because my upbringing, i got beaten as a child. yes, but... i understand that. absolutely fantastic. i was eight years old and groomed into gangs, there are root causes that cause people to do that and we have to address that. i was a foster pa re nt to address that. i was a foster parent for 12 years to adolescent teen boys and i know exactly what you are talking about. i lived it and have been there. however, what

you are talking about, and well done to you for doing what you are doing but what you are doing is you are talking to adults. i'm not talking about the adults. i'm talking about the children where we go into schools and we see thousands of children. we don't play about, our training is graphic, ourtraining is graphic, how it happens, how they are groomed, how easy it is to get involved and what the consequences are, notjust involved and what the consequences are, not just about jay, involved and what the consequences are, notjust about jay, but hundreds of other kids who are stamped and attacked. so you doing what you're doing is very good for adults but for me to be able to tell that to children, you are totally confusing them. we go into schools doing crime prevention as well up—and—down the country and also go into liverpool. that's not setting a good example, is it? there is impoverished children up in liverpool, white underclass, and so many different cultures that are

dealing with exactly the same problem, and if we feel that we can address it through being nonviolent, dealing with it in a bad responsive way to bad things then it‘s not going to work that way, because fighting fire with fire doesn‘t work. when i go into the schools i tell my story of redemption and the children listen to me because i‘m a former gang member. we change lives when we go up—and—down the country. final word, caroline. when we go up—and—down the country. finalword, caroline. finalword from the, as i said, again it is a business and i'm so into our children knowing the truth and what can happen. it has to be told by a person that hasn't got a criminal record. thank you. you are both doing work, both aiming for the same outcome but obviously coming at it from very different points of view but we appreciate your time and thank you for talking to each other

as well. the number of rough sleepers has reached the highest level since current figures began, the latest figures out this morning show. we will speak to three people who know what it is like to be homeless. please send us your own homeless. please send us your own homeless experience, as some of you have, i‘m gratefulfor that and homeless experience, as some of you have, i‘m grateful for that and you don‘t have to give your name if you don‘t have to give your name if you don‘t want to at all. british tennis number two kyle edmund is currently playing playing in his first ever grand—slam semi—final. only the sixth british man to do so in the open era. he‘s playing against the former us open champion marin cilic. but he is battling to stay in the match as he is currently two sets down. the first set seemed to go by ina down. the first set seemed to go by in a flash for edmund, with cilic taking it 6—2 injust in a flash for edmund, with cilic taking it 6—2 in just 35 minutes. edmund obviously wasn‘t feeling quite right. he then had the trainer out and after a quick discussion the

pair headed backstage for a three—minute medical time—out. and then at 2—2 in the second set a bit of controversy. cilic‘s serve was cold out and the cool came as edmund hit it. cilic challenged it and was given the point. edmund made his feelings known, calling for the referee and complaining to the umpire. it didn‘t do him any good, the second set proved to be a much tighter affair eventually going to a tie—break. cilic, a former grand slam winner and the more experienced, took it 7—4. two sets down leaving kyle edmund with a really uphill task. a really uphill task. you know what i mean! let‘s talk to various people about this. martin weston has known kyle edmund for ten years and is the current bridge —ish tennis under 14 coach, and david felgate, former coach of tim henman. hello, gentlemen. jony martin, how do you think he‘s doing?

i‘ve got it on here in front of me, victoria. he is under the pump but the second set was encouraging. the first set, as you say, went pretty quick and was a turning point, that dispute over the line cool, and the level was really high in the second set so i think he‘s in the match. what do you think, david? he's performing well. to win a grand slam is very tough physically. we have seen kyle have the injury time—out, and let's not forget he is playing a grand slam champion and wimbledon finalist last year, number six in the world, so he's performed very well this whole tournament as performing well today but he's really up against it now, 2—0 down. martin, as you are the current british tennis under 14 coach, how is the system helped kyle edmund progress to this level? it's a good question. i think having sort of been involved when kyle was at this sort of age, you just mentioned

under 14, one of the things we can learn from the past with kyle is he was one of a crop. historically we find that the players tend to develop when there is more than just one of them. he was in a sort of three—year span where we had junior grand slam winner is, orange bowl champions and him and his team were thejunior davis champions and him and his team were the junior davis cup champions, champions and him and his team were thejunior davis cup champions, so that helped having a group of them pushing each other along. the others obviously haven‘t got to the heights he has got. some of them have gone in different directions. but that‘s one thing. the second thing is that kyle has had good coaching at the right times. when he started working with fredrik rosengren, now, they have all been british coaches, and we‘ve got to learn from the past which is that we have to make sure that our best kids have the best coaches that are suitable for that stage of their journey. coaches that are suitable for that stage of theirjourney. you have coached players to the top level,

david. how big is the leap from the junior level to the seniors? it is huge and cannot be underestimated. you see it in all sports. you obviously want to do well in the juniors but what you've got to be doing is putting the work in place and yourgame in doing is putting the work in place and your game in place that has a chance to succeed in the seniors. you have seen lots of people do very well withjunior grand you have seen lots of people do very well with junior grand slam is you have seen lots of people do very well withjunior grand slam is and not go on but that doesn't mean you don't go out and try and win those junior grand slams. i agree with what martin said, going back to tim henman in his era he was a group of four boys who play professionally and went on to different levels around the top 100. it takes the pressure off when you have people to work with. i think we are going through another period of that with some of the youngsters at the moment and it's great to see aidan hughes in the semifinals of the australian open juniors he won in the semifinals of the australian openjuniors he won earlier today. it's nice, as martin said, i think british coaches take a bad rap all

the time. its british coaches who have been there with him on his journey and mark hilton is still involved with kyle edmund. yeah, we spoke to him earlier. virak coaches at the right time. but it's the inner desire from the player, you asked about systems, systems are there to help and encourage. there is driven players, there is always driven parents behind them and it's about trying to help them on their journey. that's interesting, driven players and driven parents, martin. we should remember that actually for someone to get to the level that kyle has reached now, at some point there were parents sacrificing, dedicating their lives to travelling around, taking them to all sorts of events, worked there? it's interesting you say that, kyle is a family guy and he‘s very close with his parents. stephen, his father, was there every step of the way and as was denise. stephen has been kind enough to come in and speak to the

pa rents of enough to come in and speak to the parents of our up and coming young players on a number of occasions at our national camps because he is a fantastic role model on how to make the right decisions at the right time, but also, as david said, he empowered kyle throughout the journey to lead it, to be at the front of this project that he‘s been involved in. kyle, as a consequence, has always been a highly applied, highly self—motivated, driven young man and that‘s why he‘s up on the tv screen in front of me now. good parenting was definitely instrumental in that. david, if he doesn‘t get through to the final command it‘s early, i know that, if he doesn‘t, though, what kind of support, what kind of advice would you give to somebody like him? he will be so disappointed. of course he will. he is living the dream and wants to win grand slams, that's

what every player does. before this i commentated on one of his matches, i was i commentated on one of his matches, iwas in i commentated on one of his matches, i was in australia last week, and people say it might be time for file to make the quarterfinal of a grand slam, he's good enough. he's done that and surpassed it —— time for kyle. next time it can be your first final. reading some of the things that have been written in the last few days you would think kyle has suddenly appeared. within the sport we know him and have followed him and it's been a long journey, he's beenin and it's been a long journey, he's been in the top 100 for the last two years, is working his way up, he's 23 years of age, there is no reason to make comparisons. he will be disappointed not to turn this around but use it, the 26 in the world, meaning he is seeded in the other grand slams moving forward and keep working on his game. i love the way he is showing more emotion, he seems to have it in check and that forehand, he is using it so well now so he has everything to look forward

to if he can't turn it around today. thank you, both of you, we appreciated, david felgate, former coach of tim henman and martin weston, thank you, who has known kyle edmund for ten years and is the current british tennis under 14 coach. we have some live pictures of the swiss resort of davos. donald trump arriving, the first us president to do so since bill clinton 18 years ago. obviously, he is going to meet theresa may a little later. we will be live in davos in the next 30 minutes. time for the latest news now. the education minister nadhim zahawi has been reprimanded by number 10 for attending the men—only charity dinner. mr zahawi attended the presidents club‘s function at the dorchester hotel, where women employed as hostesses say they were groped. the minister said he felt uncomfortable and left the event early.

the charity commission says it is investigating the allegations as a matter of urgency. the latest crime figures for england and wales shows crimes recorded by police increased by 14% in the year to september 2017. violent crime was up 20% and there were also increases in robbery and sexual offences. the separate crime survey — based on interviews with 35,000 households — suggests that crime is not a common experience for most people. theresa may will use a speech at the world economic forum in switzerland to put more pressure on technology companies like facebook and twitter to tackle extremist material online. she‘ll be speaking in davos just hours before she meets us president donald trump, their first meeting since she criticised him for sharing racist videos tweeted by the far—right group, britain first. the us president, donald trump,

says he‘s ‘looking forward‘ to being interviewed by robert mueller — the fbi‘s special counsel investigating allegations of russian interference in the us elections. in a heated exchange, the president told reporters he would give testimony under oath, and said he expected to be questioned by mr mueller within two to three weeks. reporter: would you do it under oath, mr president. you mean like hillary did? who said that? i said that, would you do it under oath? oh, you said it. you say a lot. did hillary do it under oath? i think you have an idea. wait, you don't have an idea? you really don't have an idea? i really don‘t remember. i'll give you an idea — she didn't do it under oath. you won‘t? i would do it and you know she didn't do it under oath. at least two people have died and several others injured after a train derailed near the city of milan. the regional train was travelling towards milan‘s porta garibaldi station and derailed around the town of segrate. there are reports that emergency

services are still trying to rescue people trapped inside. the number of rough sleepers has reached the highest level since records began. there were 4751 people sleeping rough in 2017. data suggests that the number has risen by 128% since 2010. ——by 168% since 2010. here‘s some sport now with kat downes. kyle edmund is two sets down against marin cilic. the second set was much tighter, on a tie—break, and there is already a —— he is already a breakdown in the third. we will keep

you updated throughout the morning. simona halep fought a real battle against angelique kerber, but the world number one came through and will face caroline wozniacki in the final. new england women‘s boss phil neville will not face charges despite tweets in 2011—12 that were disparaging to women. back to you. some interesting e—mails from you about our conversation to do with tackling crime after the crime figures out today. june says: well done for presenting a balanced interview around knife crime. the young quy interview around knife crime. the young guy who had been in prison and has turned his life around should be applauded. his message ofjail is a massive message for young people. another viewer says: i thought she u nfa i rly another viewer says: i thought she unfairly wounded this transformed young man. your programme is about

all views and we have to learn to disagree. clive says: your guest who called for harsher prison conditions should spend some time in one. the real reason prison doesn‘t work on gang members is because their lives are already so fearful and hopeless, prison alone offers no change. thank you for those and keep them coming in. school league tables released in the last few moments show that one in eight schools in england are below the standard deemed acceptable by the government. elaine dunkley is here. tell us about the changes and then the figures. league tables are

hugely important for parents deciding on where to send their children for secondary school. in the past, these tables have been compiled by looking at the percentage of pupils getting five gcs es -- gcses percentage of pupils getting five gcs es —— gcses but that has changed. it was felt the system didn‘t take into account disadvantaged children and those who make slower progress. we have other attainment measures which look at how children from different backgrounds are doing in terms of making progress. the attainment eight takes an average of every pupil in year11 eight takes an average of every pupil in year 11 in terms of how well they did. grades are now numbered. they have taken an average to see how all the children are doing. progress eight is the one pa rents would doing. progress eight is the one parents would look at to see how much a child has developed. it looks at their ersatz when they first

started and there are expected attainment versus what they actually got. this is a range of different measures. of what the schools say about these grades? it is interesting because the were over 800 schools were deemed unacceptable, but with the new measure, it is 385. some experts think the goalposts have been shifted, the measurement system is overly complicated. the department of education has said that it shows that the gap between disadvantaged pupils and their peers has narrowed. thank you for your e—mails and m essa g es thank you for your e—mails and messages about being homeless. this

from leon: iwas messages about being homeless. this from leon: i was homeless in manchester for a year. i started off sitting in the coach station all night until i was noticed for not having a ticket. i have slept in piccadilly toilets. the toilets are full at night. you rock the door and the police come every hour to try and get you out. me and my girlfriend moved to the streets. people would try to get my girlfriend into prostitution but i stop that. she eventually broke down. the council wouldn‘t help at all. i was then on the streets alone. i nearly jumped all. i was then on the streets alone. i nearlyjumped off a bridge into the icy canal, but a passer—by stopped me. leon, thank you so much for telling us about that. let us know how you are doing now if you have time before the end of the programme and we can tell the audience. this from someone who wa nted audience. this from someone who wanted to stay anonymous: i was homeless for several months. my army term observers was completed and i was told to just report the labour exchange. when i reported there i

was told, you are considered to have left your previous job so we cannot help you for at least six weeks. a record number are sleeping rough in england, that‘s the reason i have been asking for your experiences this morning. we have the latest official figures this morning. we have the latest officialfigures and this morning. we have the latest official figures and they estimate that around 4700 people were sleeping in the streets in the autumn of 2017. those figures also suggest that is an increase of 168% since 2010. i want to talk now to three people who also now what it is like to be homeless. callum curry slept rough on and off for six years. jon glackin — founder of streets kitchen which provides soup kitchens and support to the homeless. and ashleigh o‘connell, who was homeless for a year after escaping an abusive relationship. and in stoke isjeremy pert, who is the community cabinet support member for stafford borough council. thank you for coming on the programme. bright, i mean, you have

similar experiences —— right, i mean, you have similar experiences but there were different circumstances behind why you were homeless. callan, you slept rough on an offer about six years. describe what that was like. quite painful. isolated, lonely, and i wasn‘t homeless for long periods of time. i was rebounding. i would get some we re was rebounding. i would get some were sorted and then end up back in the street again. i didn‘t have long periods of being consistently homeless, but over six years, it was bad. why did it happen? i think each person‘s problem is individual. i have substance misuse issues that i have substance misuse issues that i have been dealing with. how are you doing with that? good. i have been housed for two years now. life is a

lot different to what it was. shore. what about yourself, ashley?” lot different to what it was. shore. what about yourself, ashley? i found myself homeless after re—skating —— after escaping domestic violence. i approached the council for help and they told me that i wasn't high risk enough, and my best option was to kick my ex—husband out of the house, soi kick my ex—husband out of the house, so i returned back to domestic violence and the only way i could see out that the time was to find a job, which i did, and i was working as an ambulance driver at night, which was great because it kept me away from my now ex—husband. i was attending college during the day because i felt the only way to change my life was to get an education and empower myself so that i could get a job and stand on my own two feet. sadly, when my son passed away, the violence escalated

massively, and the police got involved. then i was taken more seriously, but i believe if there was some intervention a few years before, when i initially approached the council, directing me even to a charity for women to talk to, i believe my circumstances would have beena believe my circumstances would have been a lot different. what about you, john? you have been homeless for periods. it came through being sanctioned. we are out on the streets every night, talking to homeless people. why are people homeless? there are thousands of reasons. then people can feel sympathy for some of it, because there is a demonisation of

homeless people, that they are dirty and untouchable. not by everybody. not by everybody, no. three people have been through similar experiences, so we want to discuss this further. everybody has a different story and a different path to follow. we can help and tailor it for individuals. we don't do that at the moment. we look at it as generic, they are just homeless.“ i bring generic, they are just homeless.“ ibring in generic, they are just homeless.“ i bring in jeremy generic, they are just homeless.“ i bring injeremy from stafford council, how do you react to these figures today? around 4700 people we re figures today? around 4700 people were rough sleeping in england last year. we were talking before about howjohn said hundred and 30 people in camden. which isjust one borough in london. and you don‘t think the figures represent the reality? no, i

would sleep in my carjust do not go home. when i was going through the homeless process, i met a lot of people, men and women, in a similar situation, who didn't go to the council because they said that they wouldn't help them, there was no point. so, obviously, they are not represented in any statistics of figures. i don't think i probably was on any stats, because i was sleeping ina was on any stats, because i was sleeping in a car. i was sleeping on friends' so thes. i think the figures are probably a lot more inflated than what they are. this e—mailfrom michael we have an e—mailfrom michael,: i have a problem with substances and alcohol and lost everything, my home, my family and myself. i thought my life was over, i can‘t tell you how painful it was to find myself in such a dark place. i accepted help from a total stranger, and at that point i was ready to end

the own suffering. that was a long time ago, but because people showed me compassion i am now a very productive person in the community andi productive person in the community and i raise thousands of pounds for people less fortunate than myself. which is your point, john, that we have to treat people with compassion. we have two. everybody has the potential to change. most of the crew we work with, we are grassroots, not a charity, most of them have been homeless and know what it is like. we have a businesswoman in 2017 in our presence here. her circumstance has created that. it could happen to anybody, we‘re just a created that. it could happen to anybody, we‘rejust a pay created that. it could happen to anybody, we‘re just a pay cheque or two away, a relationship breakdown, it could be anything, a child that passed away, abusive relationship that you have to escape from. as a society we should have a support network in place to support these

people and we can do this, we know we can. they have done it in staffordshire. lemmy bring injeremy pert. these figures show that your council has seen a fall in rough sleepers. —— let me bring in. how has that happened and what have you done? we have seen a reduction in rough sleepers by 50% and what we have done is a number of things. there has not been one single activity that we have done because everybody is different. but i think what we would say very clearly is that one rough sleeper is one too many. and as a result of what we have done is we have employed, for example, a committee matron who is the angel of stafford who works on the angel of stafford who works on the street with homeless people and rough sleepers at the far end of homelessness, and she engages with rough sleepers with a view of trying to get them to accept opportunities for accommodation and getting them off the streets. we have also done a

pilot on housing first and housing first is about exactly what it says, it's about getting people into housing first and providing the wraparound services and support to ensure those people can stay within their houses for the long—term, so that they have a sustainable housing solution. equally, in going into the house in the first place those rough sleepers know that that is their house for the long—term and as a result there is no issue about it only being a short—term tenancy and that actually by providing the support we can get to success rate of between 70—80% of those people keeping those homes. we also do a lot of on prevention. if we can prevent people from being homeless in the first place then that has to be preferable than dealing with people who are sleeping rough because within two weeks, as you other contributors have talked about, within two weeks it doesn't ta ke about, within two weeks it doesn't take long for people to start having significant mental health issues and

some significant health issues in terms of dependencies. before you 90. terms of dependencies. before you go, jeremy, explain why it was important for your council to spend money to help rough sleepers. we realised we had a problem, we realised we had a problem, we realised we had got an explosion during 2015—16 of rough sleepers and wanted to do something about it. the way we thought was the right way of doing work was understanding why people were sleeping rough in the first place and then providing the support to take them off the streets and then put them into long—term sustainable accommodation. in stafford we a re sustainable accommodation. in stafford we are completely unlike the national picture in terms of housing. we are building plenty of houses, we build twice as many houses, we build twice as many houses as we planned to last year including housing of all types, including housing of all types, including affordable homes, and as a result of what we can do is we can put all of those people into accommodation tonight, but actually they would probably fall out of the accommodation within a week or two, and asa

accommodation within a week or two, and as a result without the support, intensive one—to—one support of something like a housing first programme there is no way we'd be able to keep those people in accommodation, so it was about providing individual tailored support to people but also making sure we support people on the streets. thank you very much, understood, it can be done if you wa nt to understood, it can be done if you want to do it. jeremy pert from stafford borough council, thank you, ashleigh o‘connell, thank you, jon glackin, founder of streets kitchen, thank you, and callum curry, thank you. theresa may is in favos for the world economic forum, where the global elite gather every year. it isa it is a heck of a juxtaposition with our last conversation, this, isn‘t it? she‘ll use her speech to put more pressure on technology companies like facebook and twitter to weed out extremist material online. she will promise to put britain at the forefront of artificial intelligence. will talk more about

that in a moment. president trump just arrived in davos on marine one, his presidential helicopter and will meet theresa may for the first time since she criticised him for retweeti ng since she criticised him for retweeting videos posted by the far right group britain first. as for davos, though, what do we need to know about the meeting of business leaders and heads of state in the swiss alps? i‘ve been taking a look. every year the swiss mountain village of davos hosts the rich, powerful and famous at the world economic forum. 3,000 people turn up, including more than 70 world leaders. indian prime minister narendra modi, french president emmanuel macron, new zimbabwean president emerson mnangagwa, theresa may will all be in attendance. but perhaps the most anticipated is donald trump — the first sitting us president to go there in two decades. the world‘s largest companies, charities trade companies, charities, trade

unions and organisations like the un and bank of england will be there too, alongside leading names in science and the arts. what happens there? lots of networks, speeches and meetings. some behind closed doors. this year‘s theme is "creating a shared future in a fractured world." expect sexual harassment and gender inequality to feature. the impact of advances in technology and globalisation will also be prominent. what should we look out for? canadian prime minister, justin trudeau, has already made headlines talking about the need to tackle inequality. i‘m talking about hiring, promoting and retaining more women. and there are two key events to come — theresa may is due to meet donald trump for the first time since the us president cancelled his visit here to the uk. then on friday, mr trump will deliver a much—anticipated speech about why he believes it is time to invest in the usa. asi

as i mentioned in the introduction there is also a strong focus on artificial intelligence, or a1, at this year‘s forum. it‘s something theresa may is expected to speak about. she‘ll talk about seeking "safe and ethical" artificial intelligence. a small device on your coffee table which gives you the weather or plays your favourite piece of music when you ask for it seems pretty harmless. is a! something we should be worried about? in a moment, i‘ll be speaking to maxine mackintosh who is an expert in al in health care. but first, from davos, our business editor, simonjack. i want you to tell our audience what davosis i want you to tell our audience what davos is like, who is there, where do they meet, how much champagne very quow and what the heck is going on? security is pretty tight, you have to scan your bag every morning when you come in and have your badge on for all times, which i‘ve taken off for the purpose of talking to

you. once you are inside the bubble it isa you. once you are inside the bubble it is a heady mix of the rich and powerful. i came here a few years ago when i was getting swiss francs out of a hole in the wall and i turned around and bill clinton was behind me, he was ex—president, not president at the time. bill gates almost knock me over as he slipped. they give you a special grippy things for your shoes, people arriving the coats and take them off and look as if they are having another day in the office in the convention centre. all walks of life, people dressed as tibetan monks, people looking like the dalai lama, it wasn‘t the dalai lama, i checked but it could have been, is that type place. i spoke to stella mccartney, demel mccarthy, the ngos have a big day out here, they know this is their opportunity to get face time with the people that can make a difference —— dame ellen macarthur it‘s like shooting fish in a barrel if you want to talk to the rich and powerful. the problem is however important you are there is

a lwa ys however important you are there is always somebody more important around the corner and you can see some senior ceos and wondering if they are in the right party, in the right meeting or is something more important going on. there is anxiety about the hierarchical thing. they are used to being loud and scraped to in their offices but it doesn‘t apply here, it is a great leveller, let me put it that way. but fomo still affects those rich elites. what is theresa may going to be doing? theresa may will use this speech as an opportunity to ask big investors to put pressure on some of the big tech companies to do a betterjob at the big tech companies to do a better job at taking the big tech companies to do a betterjob at taking some harmful or inappropriate content of the internet. she will refer back to the speech she made at the united nations saying ideally the minute something goes up it should be down within two hours after it‘s been identified. she will say through ai, which you will be talking about, this should happen automatically. machines are getting very good at recognising speech patterns, of what

kind of messages are being sent, saying using that technology to make the internet a safer place is what she will say and she will say britain is committed to trying to be a leader in that field. this is all about drumming up business for your own country when coming to davos. that‘s what she will say. important as those issues are, it will not be the focus today because the eagle has landed, donald trump as we saw in those pictures of him getting off here, people feverishly waiting for his appearance. theresa may after she has spoken, will have a sideline meeting with donald trump, and the big question there will be how special is the old special relationship? ever since she was the first leader to go to the white house, and we saw that famous picture of them holding hands, the relationship has been a bit dysfunctional in the 12 months since then, they publicly clashed on twitter about his tweeting of far right material from britain twitter about his tweeting of far right materialfrom britain first. there was an invitation extended and then he never arrived because he didn‘t want to open the us embassy.

how special is the relationship and can they patch it up? guess what, emmanuel macron is emerging as the us‘s favourite european leader. the old question of who do i call when i wa nt to old question of who do i call when i want to call europe? is it theresa may? we are not sure. thank you, simon. maxine, what is al and how do we interact with it? there are a lot of different definitions of ai.“ is the ability of the machine to replicate and mimic human intelligence, known as general ai. loss of the ai intelligence, known as general ai. loss of the a! we see in our database specific or a narrow ai, the ability for a machine or algorithm to do a specific task, so it could be when on our son, predicting what you are next buying, when you are on facebook and tax somebody‘s face automatically, or it could be on the snapchat and you have different filters and it superimposes that. there are a lot of different ways ai superimposes that. there are a lot of different ways a! can be applied. instinctively i feel like i want to worry about that, machines being cleverer tha n

worry about that, machines being cleverer than us. should i not worry? humans are not intelligent at lots of different things and human intelligence has lots of different facets, emotional intelligence, academic intelligence and ai is good at some things and not at others. humans are not very good at boring administrative tasks, or complex multifactorial tasks, so if you can get a machine to both clean floor but also be a trader instead of a human trader in a bank that is an interesting dichotomy and application of ai. thank you very much, maxine. iwould application of ai. thank you very much, maxine. i would like to have talked longer but we are at the end of the programme and kyle edmund has lost the match against marin cilic in the semifinal of the australian open. thank you for your company. newsroom life is next. i will be back tomorrow at 9am. have a very good day. pelo. many of us are enjoying sunshine at the moment. we have

plenty of dry weather across the uk at the moment as well. there are one or two showers affecting western parts at the moment. though showers will become more extensive, bit more frequent as we go to the afternoon across wales, south—west england, north—west england and the south west of scotland. there could be some hail and under mixed in. further east, the odd shower but largely dry weather with some sunshine, bit cooler compared to recent days. overnight at the showers will fade away, just drifting further eastward. further north and west some clearer skies, temperatures falling close to if not below freezing so a touch of frost on friday. otherwise, though, temperatures stay above freezing. friday will start off cloudy across eastern areas, could be the odd shower as well. the cloud breaking up shower as well. the cloud breaking up and for most of us friday will be a dry day a bright day, lots of sunshine, bit more cloud in northern ireland later in the afternoon, top temperatures about 6—9dc. goodbye. this is bbc news, and these are

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