hello. it's monday, it's 9 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. welcome to the programme. our top story today... a 28—year—old man has been charged with three counts of causing death by dangerous driving after a car crash which killed three teenagers. also on the programme... british farmers tell this programme they're the subject of death threats from increasingly militant vegan activists i don't take any issue with keegan ‘s. what we do care about is when it turns militant. when you are being called the screams. really keen to hear from you this morning. if you work in the farming industry, tell us the effect it has on you. if you're an activist, tell us what you're trying to achieve.

plus, chronic headaches can be devastating, and very little is known about them. it feels like someone is taking a knife and stabbing my head repeatedly. the pain is so bad that you cannot open your eyes quickly cannot move, you cannot speak. now a study is under way at warwick university to try and tackle it. we'll speak to those affected. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11. we'll bring you the latest breaking news and developing stories. later we'll be asking whether misogyny should be treated as a hate crime. do let us know your views and experiences. use the hashtag victoria live. and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today... a man has been charged with causing death by dangerous driving in connection with a crash which killed three teenagers in west london. a second man is being questioned after he handed himself in after a police appeal. first, our correspondent,

ben ando, reports. candles, flowers, messages from family and friends. for those who did not know them but wanted to pay respects. a black audi mounted the pavement near a bus stop, struck then after mounting a pavement. a man was caused with dashes of the charge with three counts of causing death by dangerous driving. a man wa nted death by dangerous driving. a man wanted by the police handed himself in. the victims have been named as josh magennis and george wilkinson, both 16, and harry lewis rice, aged i7 both 16, and harry lewis rice, aged 17 among those who paid their respects where george's and father. i was not going to stop here but i had to in the end. it told me to. how do you feel now you have come here? upset but pleased i have seen

them. the man charged will appear in court later this morning. as the shock of what happened continues to sink in, there are demands that more is done to ensure no other young lives are lost here. our correspondent, john mcmanus, is at the scene of the crash in hayes. we can see the many, many tributes to these three young man. yes, many. the community have been out in force. this weekend, literally hundreds of floral tributes, personal, heart valve messages for people who knew the three boys who died, and the men toes of their lives as well. one person left an xbox game are plenty of pictures of them in football kits or mementos of them in football kits or mementos of the teams they supported. one heartfelt message from a friend of theirs that said, three of the loveliest and nicest boys i have ever known both as was reported, one

of the suspects in this case will appear in uxbridge magistrates' court later this morning and at 34—year—old man who handed himself in to 34—year—old man who handed himself intoa 34—year—old man who handed himself in to a police station in north london last night has been arrested and is also being questioned over what happened on friday night when the audi mounted the pavement here in hayes and struck those three boys fatally. ben is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. a new law targeting online grooming has uncovered what a leading children's charity has described as the "staggering" extent of abuse in england and wales. the nspcc says more than 1300 cases of people sending a sexual message to a child were recorded in the first six months of it being made a criminal offence. graeme satchell reports. lauren wasjust ten when she started going online. she made a friend in a chatroom who sent her sexual messages, and eventually persuaded

her to meet. we have changed lauren's name and voice to protect her identity. the physical, sexual abuse has been extremely traumatic. i have flashbacks, and have to have medication to control those. when i was about 12, he wanted to meet up with me in person. he had all the power, completely. he had totally manipulated me to believe that i was doing something wrong here, and it would be me who would be punished for this. i was absolutely terrified. lauren's abuser, a man in his 30s, was never prosecuted. police weren't able at that time to use the messages he had sent as evidence, but since april last year, it has been illegal to send sexual messages to a child. in the first six months of the new law, more than 1,300 offences have been recorded in england and wales, the youngest victim a girl ofjust seven. and, in almost two thirds of cases, groomers used just three social media sites — facebook, instagram and snapchat. there is a role for government

to make sure that social network firms do act, because we've seen in the last decade social networking firms being able to mark their own homework, as far as keeping children safe. so they need to take these issues more seriously. the nspcc wants government to force social media sites to introduce a new grooming algorithm. it would look for certain words and friending activity, and then send an alert to both the child and the police. it would, they say, prevent more serious abuse, rather than waiting until harm has been done. but police say monitoring the internet is expensive and time—consuming, and they are already struggling to cope. i know from my own force that there are some kinds of programmes, not necessarily about children, but about particular kinds of online sexual behaviour, that they can only realistically switch on for a relatively short time, because otherwise they would be totally overwhelmed

with the response to them. and that is wholly unsatisfactory. the home office told us it has provided £20 million to help the police operate online, and the technology companies have to take all steps possible to prevent their platforms being used to exploit children. facebook say they are working with the police, and are using technology to identify grooming behaviour. but survivors like lauren want more action, to stop online grooming becoming abuse in the real world. the culture secretary said this morning he is prepared to legislate against social media companies to help crack down on online grooming. we are consulting at the moment on an intranet we are consulting at the moment on a n intra net safety we are consulting at the moment on an intranet safety strategy which is all about making the uk the safest place in the world to go online. we

will consider absolutely what the nspcc has said. i have seen their proposals and we are thinking about them carefully. the pension fund deficit of the collapsed construction giant, carillion, could be almost a billion pounds, according to mp5, which is far higher than first thought. the commons work and pensions committee has accused the firm of attempting to "wriggle out" of its obligations to its pensioners while it was paying dividends and high salaries to executives. three years after it was placed into special measures, rotherham children and young people's services has been told it is no longerfailing. in 2014, a public inquiry revealed that at least moo girls had been sexually exploited by gangs of men over a period of 15 years, and the government took direct control of the council. the regulator, ofsted, has now rated the service as good, but inspectors say some aspects still require improvement. theresa may will chair a meeting of the cabinet's brexit committee later, as pressure grows over her future. this weekend she's

faced further criticism from conservative mps, with some accusing the government of having no sense of direction. it comes as ministers from the rest of the european union meet in brussels this afternoon to discuss the next phase of negotiations with britain. mountain rescue teams in the french alps have recovered the bodies of two british tourists who died while skiing off piste. the men, both aged 25, had been skiing in the south—eastern region of chamonix. at third man thought to be on holiday with the pair raise the alarm after they slipped in eyes and bad weather yesterday morning. the foreign office says it is providing support to theirfamilies. office says it is providing support to their families. some office says it is providing support to theirfamilies. some british farmers say they cannot sleep at night and have felt under pressure from vigo activists. —— vegan

activists. the daily dash for a sunbed could soon be a thing of the past for some british tourists. the travel firm, thomas cook, is trialling a scheme which offers holiday—makers the chance to book a lounger in advance for their entire stay. but it comes at a price. it'll cost around £22. russell trot has more. it's every holiday—maker's dream, heading for some winter sun and relaxing on the poolside sun lounger. unless, of course, you've already been beaten to it. ever since the 19705, when the modern package holiday industry really took off, the competition to bag the best sunbed has, for some at least, turned even the most self—respecting tourist into a stressed sun—seeker. getting up at the crack of dawn in order to reserve that all—important prime spot with a carefully placed towel has become an all—too—common part of the holiday—maker's experience. one travel firm is now allowing customers to book their sunbed in advance.

thomas cook customers willing to pay 25 euros, that's £22, will be able to book a specific lounger for their entire stay. customers will even get a plan of the pool area and they can then reserve the sunbed they prefer, much like booking a cinema seat. it means, says the travel firm, the holiday—maker can have a lie—in, safe in the knowledge that a lounger with their name on it is all pre—booked and paid for. russell trott, bbc news. bruno mars and kendrick lamar stole the show — and most of the awards — at the 2018 grammy awards, which took place in new york last night. during the ceremony victims of the manchester and las vegas terror attacks were honoured, while celebrities walked the red carpet wearing a white rose to show their support for the times up movement. victoria will have much more of this

jawing the programme. we are going to show you our film in a moment following some "to this. sarah on facebook says, i don't eat milk or dairy because of the way we slaughter animals but it is a matter of choice. if keegan ‘s would spend half their time looking at animal conditions, things could change a lot quicker on the way we slaughter. sarah on facebook, such extremism turns people off from any benefits 01’ turns people off from any benefits or advantages. your views are very welcome, particularly if you work in farming or if you are a vegan or a vegan activists. let's get some sport. pep guardiola's manchester city, we

know how good they are at the moment. they are premier league leaders by a mile. yesterday they reach the fifth round of the fa cup. the comfortable victory over cardiff city, 2—0 away. most of the talk after the match was about the challenges faced by pep guardiola's side. leroy sari may well face a speu side. leroy sari may well face a spell on the sidelines after a heavy challenge from joe bennett. he was given a yellow card but he was withdrawn with injury. not to be deterred, bennett was back with another hefty tackle in the second half to get his marching orders late on. that did not impress pep guardiola one bit for the afterwards he said his players are artists in football. all we can do is protect them. he has urged referees to take ca re of them. he has urged referees to take care of all players and said if officials are not to make the right decisions were anything could happen

out on the pitch. clearly, pep is not pleased. let's talk about roger federer showing his softer side after winning the grand slam. great scenes in melbourne yesterday from roger federer. no end to his brilliance and he hit a landmark yesterday becoming the first man to win 20 grand slam singles titles. he was clearly emotional. he said, we are used to him having such a calm demeanour. he really seems to never break a sweat out on court would yesterday was similar he showed many why he may well be seen as the greatest ever tennis player he came past marin cilic in five sets. he was parading his trophy. smiling at least today. afterwards his reaction to the headlines. at 36 years old he is the second oldest man to win a grand slam he seems to be valuing these wins more and more. he was emotional lifting the trophy and said he could barely sleep in the build—up to the match. nerves may

have been behind the sets he lost. he told us this morning how he felt the morning after the night before. a bit confused it is all over and that i was able to do it and reached number20, numbersix that i was able to do it and reached number20, number six here. that i was able to do it and reached number20, numbersix here. it that i was able to do it and reached number20, number six here. it is just a lot. it is a lot trying to ta ke just a lot. it is a lot trying to take it in. last year was more straightforward. it was disbelief, i could not believe it happened. there i was waking up with a trophy. i don't neglect this year it seems more surreal. i cannot believe i could defend my title. a bit renaissance for roger federer. before i go, phil neville will be giving his first press conference later as the england women's head coach was that he is sure to face some difficult questions, especially after he apologised last week will sending sexist tweets in the past. good morning. british farmers tell this

programme they can't sleep at night and feel under attack by some vegan activists who call them rapists and issue death threats. concerns over animal welfare and a desire for a healthy lifestyle has seen veganism grow in popularity — there are now well over half a million vegans compared to 150,000 ten years ago with many more committing to go meat and dairy free this month for veganuary. but some animal rights campaigners believe they can save even more animals through vegan activism such as holding regular protests outside farms and abbattoirs. in most cases it's peaceful and legal but farmers say they're also facing regular harassment and abuse. our reporter amber haque has spent time with one vegan group called the save movement, which says it has a non—violent approach to campaigning. they say their cause is compassion for animals. what's going on in there is an injustice. concern about animal welfare and a desire

for a healthy lifestyle has seen a huge jump in the number of us going vegan. which, in turn, has led to a rise in those speaking out about animal rights. what's going on in there is extreme, what's happening to these animals is extreme. but when does activism become extremism? standing up against the animal holocaust. and what threat is that message causing to britain's farming industry? when you're being called murderers and rapists, that is overstepping the mark there. there's no doubt that veganism is one of the fastest—growing lifestyles, the demand for vegan and vegetarian food increasing by 987% last year in britain. vegans don't eat or use any animal product or dairy. most have a deep belief we shouldn't kill

animals at all. close to half of all the uk's vegans are aged 15 to 3a, and it's a generation that's now taking up the fight for animal rights. a new group is the save movement. there's 42 branches across the uk. they say they have a zero tolerance approach to animal exploitation. they spend weekends waiting outside slaughterhouses, stopping trucks of animals before they are killed. a lot of dedicated activists standing out in this weather to bear witness to animals. obviously what's going on in there is an injustice. they want to show you exactly what happened to the animal that ends up on your plate. the first time i'd ever come, i'd prepared myself mentally for seeing pigs on trucks, and what i hadn't prepared myself for was the screams. the group says that activism isn't violence, and that they have a love—based approach. not everyone's like you and don't care about animals. i do care about animals.

you care about animals? but you condemn them to a slaughterhouse when you eat them. the protest started out peaceful, but it's not long into us filming until we see the lengths some of the protesters are willing to go to. pigs squealing. you hear that? a group of us decided to go in the private entrance to see if the staff would allow us just to spend a few minutes with the pigs. you're on private property, get off the...land. it got really heated. one of the girls wasjust picked up and flung right at me. you could just hear the pigs screaming. i said, really, we just want to acknowledge the fact that the pigs existed, that they deserve some respect at the end of their lives. there's no need to push us. the police came in and tried to calm it down.

this is private property, i respect your right to protest. the footage quickly spread across social media within days. whilst the movement has exploded in the past decade, the vegan society came up with the term veganism in 19114. the main dish is made from nuts, whole cereals and soya, which, combined, arejust as high in protein as meat and considerably cheaper. they say they don't condone any illegal activity, including trespassing on property. and activists are up against an industry that makes billions. hey, buddy. get back to that line. if you get hurt here, i'm responsible. farming and meat organisations have met with counterterrorism police in response to the growth of the movement. the national pig association tells this programme its members can't sleep, with activists allegedly turning up at farms and slaughterhouses at night. they called battling vegan activism one of their main challenges for 2018.

over a billion farm animals are killed each year in uk slaughterhouses, and the uk has one of the highest animal welfare standards in the world, with the animal welfare act making it an offence to cause unnecessary suffering to any animal. yet farmers tell us they're being subjected to intolerable abuse. i don't take any issue with vegans, but what we do care about is when it turns militant. do you think the industry feels under threat by this? people are feeling very threatened. when you get people storming the mart or spraying graffiti, like has been happening, that's when individuals feel threatened, and that's really when it's not ok, when you've got people wondering, "oh, god, i hope my cows are going to be safe tonight." it is starting to become a bit of a problem now, when people are getting phones and cameras shoved in their faces, getting interrogated about it when they are just the bloke that drove them there.

how do you feel when you get called a murderer or like you are inhumane to your animals? ifind it degrading, ifind it insulting and ifrankly find it barbaric that somebody would accuse the people that make a living off of working the land of mistreating their livestock. when you're being called murderers and rapists, that is overstepping the mark there, for fairly obvious reasons. but then you do get death threats, which is quite ironic coming from people who want peace for animals and everything, but then they tell you, "oh, i hope you and your family go and die in a hole for what you do." down the death vials. down the death aisles. what's going to happen? what do you think to those people

that say the way you behave is almost like an extremist? an extremist? i would say, as vegans, we want peace, ok? the uk is already a country who cares about animals, ok? people in this country care about animals, but their actions don't reflect that. when they buy a chicken breast, that flesh was torn off of an animal who didn't want to die. standing up against the animal holocaust. you think you're doing god's work in here, or...? people who justify killing animals in the name of god i question, i say, "do you think god really wants this? " do you feel like that's your place to question, such a personal and...? i'm defending animals, i'm speaking for animals. if abolitionists didn't speak up for what happened back then with slaves, it would've never been abolished.

i'm sure it made some slave owners a little bit angry to not have their slaves picking their cotton for them. we want theirjob not to involve, directly involve, a victim. if everyone ate plants, we'd be growing a lot less plants than we have to feed animals too. human beings can voice their suffering, they've got a chance to escape. animals have no chance, they are vulnerable. i don't think that they can understand or differentiate between the fact that different animals have different purposes. that is an attack on me and people like me, my family, you know? inherently, dogs and pigs are the same, but we condemn pigs to gas chambers. farming isn't ever going to stop, we are always going to be here. we have to be, we've got people to feed. if you're a vegan activist or a farmer, do get in touch this morning.

i have some messages here. denise on facebook says as a vegan and told eating meat is a personal choice but what about the choice of the animals who might want to live. there is no such thing as humane slaughter if a sentient life is taken against their will. this text from vegan in norfolk says the can in —— the sooner we norfolk says the can in —— the sooner we realise the taste of food isn't with a life of another creature, the better. craig says vegans are hypocritical and confused. we will talk more about vegan activism later. next we will talk about bruno mars, a big winner

last night. many attending wore white roses, but perhaps one of the highlights was celebrities reading extracts from the book about donald trump. the longer it was left on, the darker it got. impatience resulted in trump's orange blonde hair colour. trump did not enjoy his own inauguration, he started to get angry and hurt that stars were determined to embarrass him. he had a long—time fear of being poisoned. our entertainment reporter chi chi izundu is here. so the big winners? bruno mars a sickly, he got best album, some of the year, record of the year and it was controversial because everyone

thought kendrick lamar, who came out with a more politically focused album, would get record of the year or album of the year and he didn't. so bruno mars walked away with six grammy awards under his belt and he was very proud because he detailed in an acceptance speech that he remembers performing age 15 in hawaii and he didn't think this is what his career would be. so bruno mars i would have to say is the one who swept the boards. there was criticism about women being overlooked, wasn't there? yes, because only 17 out of 86 awards went to a woman. melissa kara won best new, and she was the only female to win the big prize. so there was quite a lot of criticism. lily allen last week was criticising

the wireless festival for only having three female performers over three days so i think there will be a lot of focus on what women do or don't do or how they are recognised within the entertainment industry more and more. and a lot of performers wore a white rose to show they were supporting the me too campaign and there was a performance from keisha. yes, heard track she performed detailed the abuse she had and she had other stars in the choir like lady gaga, and they wore a white rose to support the me too campaign because they are here to show they mean business and will no longer being treated, as it has been in the acting world, as pieces of meat. in terms of british award

winners, obviously ed sheeran. ed sheeran is taking over the world. he got best pop album for his album, divide. he couldn't attend but he did win that, and also won best vocal for did win that, and also won best vocalfor shape of did win that, and also won best vocal for shape of you. he did win that, and also won best vocalfor shape of you. he is did win that, and also won best vocal for shape of you. he is loved the world over, as you can imagine, and about to get married so happy man. right, jay-z didn't win anything. yes, and that was surprising because he was nominated for eight awards. however there was a brilliant moment which is sweeping the internet and i don't know if people have managed to see it of jay-z people have managed to see it of jay—z and beyonce, and sat between them is their daughter, blue ivy and

she doesn't like the fact they are applauding and that's them down so people are saying she runs the carter household and her parents have to pipe down and do what she says effectively. we mustn't also forget jay—z was in a spat with donald trump. jay—z appeared on a programme and called him a super bowl for the way he treats minorities. donald trump —— called him a superbug. donald trump has responded. jay—z said it is notjust about employment rates, it is about the way he treats different ethnicities. coming up: we are going to be

talking to people who have had really devastating migraine headaches. we will be looking at whether a new self—management programme will improve the quality—of—life for people living with those chronic headaches. and, should misogyny be considered a hate crime? iformer women's should misogyny be considered a hate crime? i former women's minister exclusively tells this programme i she is seeking a change to the law. —— why she is seeking. time for the latest news. good morning. a man has been charged with causing death by dangerous driving in connection with a crash that killed three teenagers in west london for the second man is being questioned after he handed himself in after a police appeal for the local people have left hundreds of tributes of flowers and candles at the crash scene. a new law targeting online grooming has uncovered what a children's charity

describes as the staggering extent of abuse in england and wales. the nspcc says 1300 cases of people sending a sexual message to a child we re sending a sexual message to a child were recorded in the first six months of it being made a criminal offence was the charity is calling for ministers and social media platforms to do more to tackle the issue. what we are calling for is for technology already in use today, whether to target ads against a particular user or to track extremist content. for that to be applied is eminently usable for nothing particularly futuristic or challenging for social network firms. we think they should act was there as a role for government to make sure social network firms to act. the pension fund deficit of carillion could be almost £1 billion. the commons work and pensions committee has accused the firm of trying to regard of

obligations to pensioners while paying high salaries to executives. three years after it was placed into special measures, rotherham children and young people's services has been told it is no longerfailing. in 2014, a public inquiry revealed that at least 11100 girls had been sexually exploited by gangs of men over a period of 15 years, and the government took direct control of the council. the regulator, ofsted, has now rated the service as good, but inspectors say some aspects still require improvement. some british farmers have said they can't sleep at night and feel under attack by vegan activists. recently there've been protests outside farms and abbattoirs, and covert filming. in most cases it's peaceful and legal — but some in the agricultural industry say they facing regular harassment and abuse. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. fran says in 30 years' time we will look back and be appalled at how we

routinely farmed and slaughtered sentience beings to eat. if you choose to eat meat, no how it reaches your plate. baby in tweets this. as a vegan find it hard to emphasise with the farmers claim they cannot sleep or if you did not mass slaughter animals he would sleep easy. the techniques by protesters are sleep easy. the techniques by protesters a re not sleep easy. the techniques by protesters are not effective and are inflammatory. thank you for those that do keep them coming in. now for the sport. pep guardiola has once again called for his players to be protected after they reached the fifth round. vegan scored the first with raheem sterling scoring a second. city could have a new centre half later. the player could travel to england later to move from athletic bilbao.

the appointment of phil neville is seen as the appointment of phil neville is seen as unfair to other coaches. he will hold his first press conference in the role later on. after winning his 20th grand slam, roger federer admitted he overcame sleepless nights and a raft of nerves before beating marin cilic yesterday. at 36 he says age will not be a barrier for success in the future. it's been a weekend of turmoil for the conservative government with theresa may under fire from some quarters over both her leadership and about the negotiations on britain leaving the eu. so, could she face a leadership challenge? let's talk to normal. a lot of pressure from brexit supporting mps to deliver brexit. what has changed in the last week also is the brexiteers, who up to

now, stuck by mrs may. she has had to give quite a bit of ground for the wii have had to pay a divorce bill and have a two year transition period where not much will change. there have had to be compromises. by and large they think she will deliver brexit. now they are nervous. these compromises are a prelude to a sell—out. they are beginning to think that you know what, wouldn't we be better off with someone what, wouldn't we be better off with someone else who might actually deliver the sort of brexit we want rather than mrs may, who they fear could be going along the same lines as the chancellor, phil hammond, who said in davos last week that we are only going to move very modestly away from the eu? that is what changed. the brexiteers have been her safety net. they have protected her. now they are getting a bit anxious. are they so anxious that they might possibly think we need

another leader. we do not know the a nswer yet. justine greening has been defending the prime minister this morning. you know when prime minister is in trouble. suddenly get a whole host of ministers, former ministers, coming out and saying, come on, everyone, let's all behave. let's have a listen. this matt hancock this morning. make sure that the positive message gets out there. 0k. that was a rather truncated matt hancock. i think we havejustine greening. perhaps you can hear what she had to say. i remain a strong backer of the prime minister. so, i have been very disappointed to see the soundings off. they need to stop and people need to get behind her for that she is doing an important job for our country we need to support her in that almost

impossible task she negotiating brexit. so, some support from justine greening. it is notjust brexit that is causing uncertainty in turmoilfor some it is brexit that is causing uncertainty in turmoil for some it is a sense that mrs may is not doing much. beyond brexit. there is a feeling that government is drifting. there isa that government is drifting. there is a lack of radicalism and the lack of decisive leadership. ahead of that, the critics mrs may are not exactly overflowing with boldness and decisive action themselves. today they have been sitting on their hands. no one so far has dared to break ranks and actually move to ta ke to break ranks and actually move to take on the prime minister. as long as that continues, mrs may stays in downing street. a senior government minister is in the spotlight for comment she made in a what sap group. we are getting an idea of how tense emotions are over brexit. ——

whatsapp. the energy minister hit back. she hit back in whatsapp, describing them as the swivel eyed view who are mostly retired, elderly men who did not have mortgages or caring commitments. in other words hitting out at the hardline brexiteers. that gives you a sense of how fraught things are now within the sort of conservative family over brexit. thank you very much. we will speak to two brexit supporting mps in the next hour of the programme. next, chronic headaches and migraines which are so bad they can completely knock you out. it's estimated one in 30 of us live with a headache disorder, with some people experiencing them 15 times a month. they're estimated to cost the uk up to £7 billion a year but there's little information about why and how to stop them. now researchers from the university of warwick have told this programme

they are working on a study which could help thousands of people who experience them. let's talk to dr gemma pearce, who gets chronic migraines and has been part of this trial. peter williams also gets migraines and for years lived with excruciating attacks of pain called cluster headaches. and lead researcher on this new chronic headaches trial, professor martin underwood. welcome all of you. thank you for coming onto the programme. gemma, i think it is probably worth by starting with exposing how difficult it is free to sit in this brightly lit studio. the bright lights for me are definitely a potential trigger. i'd brought my sunglasses along just in case i needed to wear them for the any time i go into a room, a meeting, or a friend's how is, i have to worry about whether it will be too hot or too cold, what the

lighting will be like. i have to worry about my environment and i have to put in a lot of planning. a lot of effort involved in doing something social going to work that a lot of others do not necessarily have to do. things last minute are difficult for me. also, to change my plans and sometimes i get a migraine come on and had to cancel something i have been looking forward to for a long time does it can be very difficult. describe the type of headaches you are talking about.|j headaches you are talking about.” have chronic migraine. with that, for me, i get no ger. i get issues with my digestive system. —— i get no ger. sometimes if i get a migraine coming on, i cannot go near onions cooking or the smell of smoke. my pain levels intensified, so, if you are sitting at a

computer, which i do for myjob, sometimes he would be sitting there. if you normally get the neck pain or something, if i have a migraine coming on, that really intensifies. it is about finding ways to cope with that. for me, i had a really bad flare and i was off work for nine months. i couldn't get out of bed. i couldn't lift my head up from my pillow to drink water. i suffered really badly from dehydration as a result. it took a lot for me to slowly bring it back so that i was able to. i have now been back to work forjust over a year, thanks to a lot of support from everybody.” will ask you in a moment how you cope without really tense, excruciating pain i want to bring in peter. your own experiences of migraines will also tell our audience about this condition called cluster headaches i don't think

people will necessarily have heard about that. it is a term that many of who suffer do not like to use because people dismiss cluster headaches as just another headache. it is nothing like that. cluster headaches are reckoned by many in the medical profession to be the worst naturally occurring pain that human beings suffer. professor peter goads b was on telly a month ago. he described the pain of a cluster headache as being worse than childbirth, worse than being stabbed but worse than breaking a leg and worse than being shot. for cluster headache sufferers, we get headaches between two and ten times a day for months, and sometimes for years, without any break. it is a very debilitating and dreadful condition. when i am in a belt, i am episodic rather than chronic. —— a bout. when

iam in rather than chronic. —— a bout. when iamina rather than chronic. —— a bout. when i am in a bout, rather than chronic. —— a bout. when iam in a bout, i'm living in dread of the next four or five hours wondering when the next attack will occur and wonder whether i will be able to cope with this. it is the cycle of fear and dread that makes such a condition to live with. if you are fortunate like me to have been properly diagnosed and getting treatment. many of us do not get diagnosed properly. gps will not prescribe the drugs to help us manage the condition. it sounds absolutely awful. many people will have experienced bad headaches but nothing like this. martin underwood, you wa nt to want to find out more about these headaches. hence the research trial. the study we are doing is looking at how we can help people live better with chronic headaches. we are

largely talking about migraines and chronic tension type headache for people with tension and overuse headache. i want to make a couple of comments on cluster headaches for that these are really, really awful. do not underestimate how bad they are. one interesting thing we found in the early part of the research we did is that of the first 100 people we went to to try and find out what types of headaches they had had, to of these people had undiagnosed cluster headaches. —— two of these people. there are things that can be done to help these people if they get the right diagnosis was that they are not the ones we are interested in in our study. we are interested in in our study. we are interested in in our study. we are interested in those with chronic headaches, those with headaches affecting you 15 days a month for more than three months. a lot of these people will be getting headaches every single day. a lot of these people don't have a very good diagnosis, they haven't got a good

diagnosis, they haven't got a good diagnosis as to what is causing the headaches and they are not getting the best treatment for this. what have you found so far? you were pa rt what have you found so far? you were part of this trial, weren't you, gemma? yes, there is nothing specifically out there for chronic headache, chronic migraine so for me doing something that was specific to migraine and learning about the different ways to manage and learning about the different treatments available and understanding when you go to the doctor what kind of choices you have and how the doctor may or may not make their decisions, i found it really useful. yes, because some yea rs really useful. yes, because some years ago i did some work developing guidelines to help people manage headaches better and what was shocking was how little research

there was to help us tell people how to manage their headaches better and that's why we have developed this research. i willjust read some messages. "i have been suffering from migraines for six years now, my work keeps disciplining me for having time off". lydia, "things that helped me get mine under control include reducing painkiller used to prevent medication overuse headache". let's talk about mechanisms. it's an important point about medication overuse headache because one of the things people need to understand is if you get an ordinary headache or and occasional migraine, taking painkillers is very good and will help you but if you

ta ke good and will help you but if you take those too often, for more than 10-15 take those too often, for more than 10—15 days a month, it ends up making your headaches a lot worse. so what does help? let's give people some hope. the first thing to do is if you have medication overuse, stop taking the tablets. what will happen thenis taking the tablets. what will happen then is your headache will get worse for a period of up to six weeks, then for most people either it is then for most people either it is the same or better. the next thing you need to do is get a correct diagnosis for your headache. within the programme we are testing, which isa group the programme we are testing, which is a group intervention, people come with headaches, come togetherfor a couple of days to go through some education work about understanding the causes of headaches, different types of headaches, dealing with coping mechanisms and how to manage these better. let's talk about

coping mechanisms finally, if we make, gemma. so for me in order to return to work i did have medication overuse headache and had to come off all the medications. that was a difficult thing to go through, but after that i saw a really good neurologist and i'm now having botox treatments which is for people with chronic migraine that don't respond to some of the other preventative medications. that was the reason i have been able to return to work really, along with some of the other mechanisms such as planning my day ina way mechanisms such as planning my day in a way that means i'm not rushing from one meeting to another. i get time to sit back and reflect, not just rushing from one thing to another. if i do that at work, i end up another. if i do that at work, lend up going home with a migraine every day and that was one of my issues

before. for me, a lot of it is well is at home i have understanding friends and family, really understanding partner and that makes a big difference. you certainly realise who your friends are when you are coping with a long—term condition. karl says "i suffer with chronic cluster headaches, up to 16 times a day. these are so bad ifeel like drilling a hole in my head. i have been retired on health grounds". peter, your advice on managing cluster headaches? there is a charity called ouch uk that made a big difference for me. i was struggling to manage on a day—to—day basis. they have a helpline l struggling to manage on a day—to—day basis. they have a helpline i found and the guy i spoke to gave me hope.

before then i didn't know howl and the guy i spoke to gave me hope. before then i didn't know how i was going to manage this, howl could get through the rest of my life with the dread of these attacks, but that turned me around, plus the support of my family. there's not much they can do, but just of my family. there's not much they can do, butjust their empathy of my family. there's not much they can do, but just their empathy and understanding made a huge difference. now i have these auto injector pens which i can take twice daily. there is a limit because of the effect they have on the heart but many gps won't prescribe them to sufferers because the cost is over £20 a time. over a month that is over 1000 pounds. although the recommendations are that people should be prescribed an adequate supply, should be prescribed an adequate supply, many of us still cannot get enough to manage our condition. without the support of gps we are in a blind alley with nowhere to go. we need their help, their understanding and we need to be prescribed what

helps us. please! thank you, peter williams, dr gemma pearce and professor martin underwood. a notorious loyalist paramilitary commander turned police informant is due to be sentenced later for five murders and almost 200 more terror offences. gary haggarty was a commander for the uvf, the ulster volunteer force, in belfast in the 1990s. the uvf was one of the most active unionist paramilitary groups. it was responsible for more than 500 killings during the troubles. for 11 years, haggarty was leading a secret double life as a police informant. injune last year, after signing a contentious supergrass deal, he pleaded guilty to more than 200 offences, including the murders of five men. one of his victims, sean mcparland, was shot dead by haggarty while ba by—sitting his grandchildren in 1994. three of his victims were shot dead

while eating lunch in their car in belfast city centre. they were all catholic workmen. haggarty also admitted five attempted murders, including against police officers. he was given five life sentences, but this is likely to be reduced today because of the evidence he has provided to the authorities. however, the vast majority of people named by haggarty in his police interviews won't face prosecution because of a concern about a lack of other corroborating evidence. let's talk now to kieron fox whose father was murdered by gary haggarty, and roderigo murray who represented 13 of the families of his victims. —— padraig. what are

you expecting today? basically not much, to be released and let go free, live a new life with a new identity over in england somewhere. and how do you feel about that? identity over in england somewhere. and how do you feel about that7m is hard to stomach how he is basically being rewarded for his crimes. with the perpetrator of that murder being given a new identity to live life as normal as hard to stomach. mr o'murray, you have represented the families of victims, what are their feelings today?

represented the families of victims, what are their feelings today7m was discovered there was widespread collusion between the uvf and police. there is a sense that justice applies to some sections of the community but not others. they are far from satisfied today. some will say if gary haggarty was able to give information to the police that could lead to the prosecution of other hardened criminals, that is worth it. in this case information was provided. we are nine years from... over 1000 interviews of gary haggarty and yet the prosecution service said they will not be

prosecuting any police officers and it is highly unlikely that other, as you call them, criminals or loyalists will be prosecuted. the families will be far from happy with today's's outcome and there is still a long road ahead. kieran fox, you we re a long road ahead. kieran fox, you were 18 when your father was killed. he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and just happened to be a catholic man, you have said. how did yourfamily deal with catholic man, you have said. how did your family deal with what had happened? we are still coping with it, it is something you never get over. it is always on the back of your mind. things he has missed out on, christenings, birthdays. you just get used to living that way. you don't everforget, you don't get over things like this but life goes

on so over things like this but life goes on so basically there's no point in dwelling on it. it's fun to —— going to change —— not going to change. dwelling on it. it's fun to —— going to change -- not going to change. we are grateful for your time today. thank you for talking to us, kieran fox and padraig o'muirigh. gary haggerty is due to be sentenced in the next hour. let's get the latest weather update with sarah keith—lucas. we have rain through the central slice of the country but brighter skies returning in the north so here is the view in county antrim at the moment. lots of sunshine there. you can see the rain clearing from northern ireland, pushing across north—west england and north wales

where it is heavily at the moment. our second weather watcher picture comes from lancashire. it is not just wet weather but windy weather too in association with this front. it pushes southwards and eastwards over the country opening the door to a north westerly airflow so—called conditions piling in but sunshine to compensate. this rain slowly pushing south across southern parts of england and wales. the strongest of the winds easing away towards the south into the afternoon. this is three o'clock, the rain sitting across the channel isles, fairly light and patchy but brisk winds up towards kent too. in england and wales return to the sunshine, lots of dry weather although the temperatures are only around 8 degrees. for much of northern england, northern ireland and scotland, we have the showers piling

m, scotland, we have the showers piling in, falling as snow over the higher ground of scotland. into this evening and overnight, we will keep the breeze over scotland but elsewhere clear skies with the winds falling light and it will be a much colder night than last night. in fa ct colder night than last night. in fact temperatures remaining just about above freezing in towns and cities but in the countryside we could see minus three degrees. some frost and fog patches likely, but i think a lot of dry, sunny weather, particularly across central and eastern parts of england and wales too. drizzly rain in the south—west of england later in the afternoon and scotland will see the arrival of some heavy rains, combined with melting snow so there could be some flooding problems across the west of scotland. temperature wise, cooler than recent days with most in single figures. on wednesday the theme continues, the colder theme, as this

front pushes southwards and eastwards. the spell of rain followed by blustery showers on the north westerly breeze with temperatures for most around four to 10 degrees. so things will be colder but we will see the appearance of sunshine mixed with some of those showers. you can find a longer range forecast on our website. hello. it's monday, it's 10 o'clock. i'm victoria derbyshire. our top story today... a man is due in court in connection with the deaths of three teenage boys. a 28—year—old man has been charged with three counts of causing death by dangerous driving. also on this programme... british farmers tell us they are the subject of death threats from increasingly militant vegan activists. i do not take any issue with vegans. what we do care about is when it turns militant. when you're being called murderers and rapists, that is overstepping the mark.

the first time i'd ever come, i prepared myself mentally for seeing pigs on trucks. what i hadn't prepared myself for were the screams. we will bring together a farmer and a vegan activists in the studio in the next hour. a former women's minister exclusively tells this programme she supports changing the law to prevent people inciting violence against women by using misogynistic language. we will talk to her in the next hour of the programme. good morning. here's ben in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today's news. pension fund deficit of carillion could be almost £1 billion, according to mp5, far higher than first thought. the commons work and pensions committee has accused the firm of trying to regard out of its

obligations to pensioners while paying dividends and high salaries to executives. a man has been charged with causing death by dangerous driving in connection with a crash that killed three teenagers in west london. a second man is being questioned after he handed himself in after a police appeal. local people have left hundreds of tributes of flowers and candles at the scene of the crash. our porter is there. personal, heartfelt m essa g es is there. personal, heartfelt messages from people who knew the three boys who died and mementos of their lives. somebody left an xbox game the boys enjoyed playing the plenty pictures of them in football kit or mementos of the football team say supportive. one heartfelt message that caught my eye from a friend who said, three of the loveliest and nicest boys i have ever known. a new law targeting online grooming has uncovered what a leading children's charity has described as the staggering extent

of abuse in england and wales the nspcc says more than 1300 cases of people sending a sexual message to a child were recorded in the first six months of it being made a criminal offence. the charity is calling former nesters and social media platforms to do more to tackle the issue. what we are calling for is technology that is already in use today. whether that is to target a particular user or tackle extremist content. there is nothing that is particularly futuristic or challenging for the social network firms. we think they should act. there is a role for government to make sure social network firms do act. culture secretary matt hancock said he is prepared to legislate against social media companies. we are consulting on an internet safety strategy, which is all about making the uk the safest place in the world

to go online. we will consider absolutely what the nspcc has said. i have seen the proposals and we are thinking about them carefully. three yea rs thinking about them carefully. three years afterwards placed into special measures, rather children's and young people services has been told it is no longerfailing. a public enquiry revealed at least 1400 girls have been sexually exploited by gangs of men over a period of 15 yea rs gangs of men over a period of 15 years for the government took direct control of the council. ofsted has now rated the service is good but inspectors say some aspects require improvement. some british farmers have said they cannot sleep at night and have felt under attack by vegan activists. in most cases it is peaceful and legal but some in the industry say they are facing regular harassment and abuse. brima mars and kendrick lamar took most of the prizes at the 2018 grammy awards in new york last night. many celebrities walked the red carpet wearing a white rose

to show their support for the times up movement. during the event, victims of the manchester and las vegas terror attacks were honoured. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 10:30am. and thank you for your comments on ourfilm to do and thank you for your comments on our film to do with "to be is in today. —— vegan activism today. this one from him. i have been a vegan since the mid—805. i had been many marches and demonstrations and i have been attacked myself. i detest violence of any kind for top protest marches highlighting cruelty and abuse and raising awareness is brilliant. when it turns to violence i want no part in a full if we start being violent and making death threats that is as bad as the perpetrators of violence towards the animals it does not help the cause or the animals themselves.

ido i do not think we should stop livestock farming. surely activists realise if we did stop livestock farming there would not be fields of cows, sheep and pigs. wejust need better conditions for the animals. this e—mailfrom better conditions for the animals. this e—mail from harry. better conditions for the animals. this e—mailfrom harry. i have no problem with anyone he chooses a vegetarian or be given lifestyle as long as they respect my right to eat meat. —— vegan. it affects farmers and workers in the food chain and it is wholly an acceptable. do get in touch with us throughout the morning. use the hashtag victoria live. and, if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. here's some sport now. well, it was a weekend of football that again raised a number of talking points, with manchester city boss pep guardiola once again calling

for players to be protected from nasty challenges. his side were in their familiar dominant form yesterday, coming past championship side cardiff city. a brilliant free—kick from kevin de bruyne put city in front before a rare headed goal from raheem sterling made it 2—0. why dl is now possibly without winger leroy sane for up to a month. they have to do theirjob. they are there to protect the players. if it is dangerous, it is dangerous. that is dangerous, it is dangerous. that is what it is. phil neville will make his first public appearance today since becoming the head coach of the england women's football team. a week after his surprise appointment, and the revelations of historical sexist tweets by the former manchester united player in which he joked about domestic abuse, among other things, neville has the daunting task of facing the world's media. he doesn't have necessarily their

credentials or thejob he doesn't have necessarily their credentials or the job requirements that were initially put out there. what he does bring something and england manager has never brought, which is wealth of international experience, a wealth of experience of playing under pressure. imagine at half—time in the dressing room, the girls are1—0 at half—time in the dressing room, the girls are 1—0 down in the semifinal of a world cup, he could say, i have had a similar situation and this is how i dealt with it and this is the result. you spend years honing a cv, paying thousands of pounds to do your badges. when a job as advertised you want to know you have a fair chance at that job. to have a fair chance at that job. to have somebody pa rachuted have a fair chance at that job. to have somebody parachuted in the last moment through the old boys network is very unfair. let's hope he's not coaching penalties for that lets move to tennis. there doesn't seem to be any end to brillance of roger federer — he hit a landmark yesterday becoming the first man to

20 grand slam singles titles coming past marin cilic in five sets. it was his emotional reaction afterwards that took the headlines really. the 36—year—old said he could barely sleep in the build up to the match and that nerves played a part in the sets he lost. he took the silverware out into melbourne earlier today and reflected on the win. a bit confused it is all over and i was able to do it. i reached number 20, number six here. was able to do it. i reached number 20, numbersix here. it is was able to do it. i reached number 20, number six here. it is a lot. a lot trying to take it in. last year i felt lot trying to take it in. last year ifelt more lot trying to take it in. last year i felt more straightforward. it was disbelief, i could not believe it happened. there i was waking up with the trophy. this year it seems more surreal. i cannot believe i was able to defend my title. fantastic achievement from the 36—year—old was he said age is not an issue moving forward. more to come from the great

roger federer. hallow, good morning. welcome to our programme. ten years ago, meat and dairy free this month for veganuary. but some animal rights campaigners believe they can save even more animals through vegan activism such as holding regular protests outside farms and abbattoir. in most cases, it's peaceful and legal but farmers say they're also facing regular harassment and abuse. our reporter, amber haque, has spent time with one vegan group called the save movement, which says it has a non—violent approach to campaigning. we brought you her full report earlier. here's a short extract. there is no doubt the guinness is

one of the fastest—growing lifestyles. vegans do not eat or use any animal product or dairy for the most ever believe we should not kill animals at all. a new group is the save movement. they spent weeks outside slaughterhouses stopping of animals when they are killed. some protesters took the opportunity to ta ke protesters took the opportunity to take it a step further and trespassing on property. you are on private property. get off the land. it got really heated. you could hear the pigs screaming. we wanted to

acknowledge the fact they deserved respect at the end of their lives. the national pig association tells this programme that battling vegan activism is one of the main challenges for 2018.” activism is one of the main challenges for 2018. i don't take anyissue challenges for 2018. i don't take any issue with vegans, but i care when it turns militant. you get people spraying graffiti. that is when individuals feel threatened and it is not ok. you do get death threats, which is quite ironic. what is going on in there is extreme and what is happening with these animals is extreme. the public will be helping us stop those trucks and trespassing as well. you can see

that online on the bbc news website. do send us your views as well. let's speak to earthling ed, a vegan activist and instagram star, paul tomkins, a farmer who gets called a ‘rapist‘ hundreds of times a week on twitter by vegans. and drjude capper, dairy industry campaigner and a former vegan herself. thank you for talking to us. what we saw in the film where peaceful, non—violent action by the save movement. they we re action by the save movement. they were not committing any criminal offences, where they? they won't. sadly, this is the sort of language that, as a dairy farmer i am being exposed to every day on my farm. i

milk cows on my farm. the majority of the time. the very nature of farming means we are an open, transparent way of life as we had to look over a hedge or stone wall to see what we are up to. also farmers are engaged in social media as well. one of the vulnerabilities we have asa one of the vulnerabilities we have as a result of having footpath across our land and crap like i say, just the other side of the hedge, means we are vulnerable to this sort of activism. i received messages online, calling me a rapist, or murderer or torturer. it causes some distress. you can turn off your telephone and not look at it. i had collea g u es

telephone and not look at it. i had colleagues who, and fortunately, have been directly targeted i spoke toa have been directly targeted i spoke to a farmer the other day who had a footpath across his land. the family jumped over the fence. they work confronted in a very aggressive manner and accused of doing all sorts to his animals. the most distressing part of all is children we re distressing part of all is children were there as well. i think this is becoming more widespread. i hear about it more often. another farmer was telling me the first they heard was telling me the first they heard was the counterterrorism police rang up was the counterterrorism police rang up saying there is a video online which you should be aware of. this is taken overnight in a way that is there to promote a certain way of life, or a certain way of looking at farming. but that's farmer has no right to ask for that video to be withdrawn, even though protesters have come onto the farm, filmed it overnight. you have to remember

these films are where we live as well. do you can do the things he has described? though, but it is important to remember that l described? though, but it is important to remember that i get death threats too. i worry they will shoot a calf, because i have upset them. what is important to know is respective. and in this situation paul and myself are the victims of the animals are the one who suffer and ultimately die. what we do to animals is significantly worse than anything that can be said to us. correct me if i am wrong but you have openly trespassed on properties as part of your activism which is

breaking civil law. why don't you write to your mp, get a debate going on and try to get the law changed using the normal democratic process? if will look at any socialjustice movement in history, laws struggled to catch up with the activism of the time. this idea farmers are using fear of trespassed as a distraction, they are not scared of the trespassed, they are scared of the footage and what it is showing. we are showing the hidden industry which is anything but transparent. what happens in slaughterhouses is not transparent, and even on a dairy farm, mothers and calves being separated, many people don't know that. we are transparent, i enjoy using social media to show people exactly what we do. many farmers

also engage in events such as open farm sunday where we invite people to look at what we are doing. i suggest activism is discouraging farmers from doing this so although you may ask for an open, transparent way of looking at farming, when we provide this we received a distressing incidents i have told you about. do you show them artificial insemination, what happens to the calves, the pens they are captain when they are not allowed to be nurtured or socialise or do you keep that part hidden?” don't think we show everyone the full spectrum of farming. you either do or you don't? i like to think we do, yes. do you show the fact the

calves sock on people's fingers because they want to suckle on their mother? the arguments ed is portraying some of the things we use on the farm every day. what we should be looking at is educating everyone, the consumer that enjoys spreading melted butter or delicious cheese across their toast exactly how that is produced and that is one thing we can both agree on, that what we need to do is show everyone how we produce food in our country. i guess what we sometimes forget is that we all need a farmer three times a day and 98% of people enjoy consuming cheese and butter and yoghurt so let's get out and show them how that is properly done and i would encourage anyone to do so by

the engaging events i have suggested. farmers are on social media these days. when broadband allows. so come and see what's going on on your localfarm. let me bring injune, what is your stance? i was bring injune, what is your stance? iwasa bring injune, what is your stance? i was a vegan when i was a teenager andi i was a vegan when i was a teenager and i believed the things i was told because as a and i believed the things i was told because as a person and i believed the things i was told because as a person outside agriculture i didn't understand farming. i started talking to farmers, i dated a dairy farmer, lived on a dairy farm and found it was a very different picture. certainly over the last 10—15 years

going all over the world to dairy farms, ican going all over the world to dairy farms, i can categorically say dairy farmers care for their animals every day. what i found difficult was that i had breast cancer 15 years ago now andi i had breast cancer 15 years ago now and i was told just this morning that because i am celebrating the dairy industry through twitter campaign, they hoped my cancer comes back. claims like this are really difficult to deal with in a culture where we should have tolerance, respect and be accepting of people's different dietary beliefs and lifestyles. so many getting in touch about this. i have comments i will read in the moment but i want to bring in dougie in east sussex, who used to work on an organic beef farm but decided to go vegan five months ago. hello, dougie. why? as you

mentioned, i worked on an organic beef farm and l wasjust mentioned, i worked on an organic beef farm and l was just as indoctrinated as everyone else in terms of the humane slaughter. the organic beef farm 1 used to work on, the animals are really well looked after and l the animals are really well looked after and i would say to people to come down. it is almost like paradise for these animals here but then there is a little bit in the middle, the slaughterhouse, and people say it is humane slaughter and that is just people say it is humane slaughter and that isjust a marketing ploy basically. humane and slaughter couldn't be further apart. but farmers have to abide by government guidelines in how they treat animals. they are slaughtering the animals. they are slaughtering the animals according to those guidelines. i agree, i think guidelines. i agree, i think guidelines are in place but the

massive amount of animals being killed every single day, you can watch some of the slaughterhouse footage and cctv footage and you will see these guidelines in place in terms of stunning the animal, a lot of the time some of these poor animals are being stunned but it is not having an effect on them so they are still fully conscious when they are still fully conscious when they are having their throats slit. but a lot of this footage is online, if people want to see it they can see it. but a lot of people don't want to watch it because it is upsetting. then that is their choice. but if you cannot face the reality... it is not a necessity to eat animal —based

products, it is unnecessary so the animals should be given their preference which is to live their life without exploitation of them. lauren on twitter said we are destroying the earth with large plots of land... lucy says i have been mostly vegan since 1995, i support the activists, i used to be one. if you cannot kill the animal, but check it yourself, then you shouldn't eat it. sarah says i went vegan about a year ago but i have considered it for many years. i saw the militant vegans and was put off. i resumed eating meat but no dairy because what was the point of trying ifi because what was the point of trying if i was unable to attain their apparent perfection. what is your

goal? a world where people understand the exploitation of animals has no place in society. we have to ask, our taste preferences worth more than the life of an animal? what right do we have to ta ke animal? what right do we have to take their life from them just because we enjoy the taste of their flesh in a sandwich? farmers are here to produce what the consumer wants. we are demand led industry and will continue to provide great, nutritious food. idon't want to leave you with the impression farmers are standing in their fields quaking in their wellington boots, we have a lot more to worry about like the health and happiness of animals and productivity of farms, and the looming challenges of wrecks it, not ahead. everyone has the choice to eat what they choose, i respect that choice, but i would go

further and ask everyone at this time that whatever you decide to eat, to choose to back british farming. thank you for coming on and talking to each other, i appreciated, and jude capper, thank you. still to come... as rumours about tory rifts and leadership challenges continue, we'll ask two senior conservative mps what's going on. a former women's minister has told this programme she supports changing the law so that misogyny is counted as a hate crime. jo swinson, who's the deputy leader of the liberal democrats, says she's going to work towards widening the hate crime definition so that misogyny — defined as a hatred or prejduice towards women — is included. there are currently five types of hate crimes legally recognised by all police forces. they are: disability, gender, race or ethnicity, religion, and sexual orientation. so should misogyny be

added to that list? we can speak now tojo swinson, deputy leader of the liberal democrats and former minister for women and equalities. we can also speak to paul giannasi, who's from the national police chief's council and oversees hate crime, sam smethers — chief executive of the fawcett society which campaigns for gender equality and women's rights. we were also due to speak to a campaigner who was opposed to misogyny being part of a hate crime. she decided not to join us after all. hello, everybody. what do you wa nt to all. hello, everybody. what do you want to see changed and why? the five types of hate crime does not include misogyny. hate crime is

directed at you because you happen to bea directed at you because you happen to be a woman and there are many crimes exacerbated and directed at womenjust for going crimes exacerbated and directed at women just for going about their daily business. for schoolgirls walking to school, getting leered out and shouted out, that kind of harassment is happening on the everyday basis and we are seeing some of that cold out with campaigns like me too. what we have all experienced it, women working on this programme, women watching at home, most women have experienced harassment in their daily life at some point and it's about saying this is not acceptable, it is not 0k. this is not acceptable, it is not ok. many of these things might be crimes anyway but do people report it? do they feel they will be treated as silly? there are three police forces in england which have started to count hate crimes including misogyny, it was started in nottinghamshire, now north yorkshire, and avon and somerset have done so as well. it's time that

was extended more widely across the board. as you say, many of these are crimes anyway so what is the point of defining it as a hate crime? there's two main reasons, one is to gather more information. the reason nottinghamshire decided to do this was because they realised there was a problem with underreporting. when they launched this initiative a couple of years ago it was interesting to see the way the media reported it — wolf whistling will be made a crime now. as if it's ok for the woman who walks the same way to work every day and gets harassed every day, as if that is acceptable. you have that hate crime definition which helps the information gathering, also encourages reporting and means police can have more intelligence about where this is happening, when it increases, what they can do about it, and can have

an impact on sentencing too. it is also recognised the crimes of anti—semitism, race crime being seen asa anti—semitism, race crime being seen as a hate crime and i think it is strange that one of the largest areas where this happens is in the way in which women are treated. we know there is a problem with violence against women and there is a lack of confidence women have that it will be taken seriously. do you think wolf whistling as a hate crime? when someone is being intimidated, it is. the chief co nsta ble of intimidated, it is. the chief constable of nottinghamshire stand it up well for that there a between someone it up well for that there a between someone offering a drink or asking if you want some clock will stop if it is not acceptable to say that on your show, why is it acceptable to say it to a woman? let's see what you all think. looking up a woman's

gert. should that be a hate crime? we have reported last week that up skirting should be made illegal. it is already a crime in scotland. we need to extend that across the rest of the country. all of these are exa m ples of of the country. all of these are examples of things women experience every day. we had not counted this asa every day. we had not counted this as a hate crime and that makes no sense. when you look at it across the legal system, you realise the scale. violence is endemic. some say violence against women and girls is so serious it detracts from rape and domestic abuse, coercive control.m doesn't. all the campaigners in parliament are supporting what we are saying. they are backing it up. that is part of the same pitch and we have to take it seriously. let me

bring in yourself from the national police chief counsel. are people coming forward to report cases of misogyny in nottingham ? coming forward to report cases of misogyny in nottingham? fashion police chief counsel. we consulted on whether certain types of misogyny should be included. some argue that all types of domestic violence are included. there was a consultation at the time in the sense was there was not the need to include in the strategy because the commitment to deal with domestic violence was so strong that it was not necessary. i think there has been aide change online which is suffered by almost everybody in the public eye. when we have seen racial attacks on mp5, we have seen racial attacks on mp5, we have seen racial attacks on mp5, we have seen misogyny as an integral pa rt have seen misogyny as an integral part of 20,000 offensive messages. we have legislation to cover that.

every hate crime is a crime anyway. hate crime recognises the extra harm caused by targeted abuse. the definition shared across the criminal justice system definition shared across the criminaljustice system has been shared by different governments and thatis shared by different governments and that is hate crime. we said we would monitor it. our policy in 2014 as the police encouraged police officers to say what hostility existed in the area and what fear of crime existed in that area. they we re crime existed in that area. they were encouraged to go ahead and do it if it is listed. they have asked us it if it is listed. they have asked us what the next step is to do this nationally, to measure, and to address the issues we have seen highlighted. we are going through that process of bringing in evidence and taking reports that have been done and looking at the evidence given to the home affairs select committee. you have not reached a

conclusion about whether there should be rolled out. my job is to collate evidence. we have a hate crime website, a police owned website. anyone with strong views on this, who has constructive views, is more than welcome to get in touch and influence that debate. we want the best evidence for police officers and opinions of stakeholders to give them an opinion to make sure the next step is to bring it on a national footage. let me put this e—mail to you from alan. misogyny must be tackled. to be taken seriously, miss andry must be given equal consideration. —— mysandry. my understanding of the figures published today is misogyny

has been reported that there have been no reports of mysandry. if that has been happening, it is totally a cce pta ble has been happening, it is totally acceptable for that to be recorded. it is important we recognise this problem of violence against women, when i speak to men about the experience of sexual harassment, the shock that people have expressed about the me too movement, a man does not tackle all do it in the presence of other men were they might be challenged. that is why we need to gather the information so that you can show the extent of the problem. i think, from what the evidence that exists is, much more ofa evidence that exists is, much more of a problem of a gendered approach

to violence against women that is endemic in society. taking that into account the let's agree with that. let me ask you, sam and againjamie says the same thing. though i agree that misogyny should be classed as a hate crime it is important to make could also apply for men. it should not be a one—way street because some men are also victimised by women. we looked at this in our review. we considered it and discussed it. given the huge power imbalance there is in society and the scale of violence against women and girls who are not dealing with an equivalent situation. we are saying there is not an equivalent but should misandry also be recorded as a hate crime? it would need to be part of a consultation for that you are not dealing with the same thing. it clearly will happen in small minorities of places. we do not see

it on the same scale. it focuses on the nature of the problem and misogyny is the problem. sexual orientation hate crime would cover heterosexuals being covered by gay men. we do not experience it as a problem. the law is applied on a human rights the team. this is about all of our rights to be free to live lives free from targeted abuse. sometimes we have to give more for people who are more affected by hate crime, more susceptible and more targeted. one issue about the consultation should be the issue but should be gender or sex or should it be misogyny? either way, should be gender or sex or should it be misogyny? eitherway, this should be gender or sex or should it be misogyny? either way, this is about human rights. it is about a right for everyone to live their life with equal protection. still to come. rotherham child ren's services,

once mired in a child sexual exploitation scandal, have been given an overall "good" rating by government inspectors. we'll speak to an abuse victim and the man in charge of turning things round. plus — new figures show co—sleeping is a factor in the deaths of nearly three infants a week. we'll bring you the details. a man has been caused in connection with the death of three teenagers in london. local people have left hundreds of tributes of flowers and candles at the crash scene. a new law targeting online grooming has uncovered what a children's charity describes as the "staggering" extent of abuse in england and wales. the nspcc says more than 1300 cases of people sending a sexual message to a child were recorded in the first six months of it being made a criminal offence. the charity wants ministers and social media platforms to do

more to tackle the crimes. rotherham children and young people's services has been told it is no longerfailing. four years after a public inquiry revealed that at least 1400 girls had been sexually exploited by gangs of men over a period of fifteen years. the regulator, ofsted, has now rated the service as good, but inspectors say some aspects still need improvement. theresa may chairs a meeting of the cabinet's brexit committee today, with growing pressure on her leadership. this weekend she's faced further criticism from conservative mps — with some accusing the government of having no sense of direction. meanwhile ministers from the rest of the eu are meeting in brussels to discuss the next phase of negotiations. some british farmers have said they cannot sleep at night and feel under attack by vegan activist was recently there have been protests outside farms and abattoirs and

covert filming. in most cases it is peaceful and legal. some in the agricultural industry say they face regular harassment and abuse. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. here is the sport. pep guardiola has once again called for his players to be protected after they reached the fa cup fifth round with victory over cardiff yesterday. kevin temple ascored the first and raheem sterling the second. a frenchman will travel to england to finalise a £57 million move from athletic bilbao. the chair of women in football says the appointment of phil neville as new boss of england is unfairto phil neville as new boss of england is unfair to other coaches he will hold his first press conference in the role made to today. after winning his 20th grand slam, roger

federer admitted he overcame sleepless nights and a raft of nerves before beating marin cilic. at 36 he says age will not be a barrier to more success in the future. that is it. more at 11. it has been a weekend of turmoil for the conservative government. with theresa may under fire from some quarters over both her leadership and about the negotiations on britain leaving the eu. so with a number of pro—brexit mps concerned that the prime minister is overseeing a "dilution" of brexit, could a leadership challenge be on the cards? let's talk to two brexit—supporting conservative mps. sir geoffrey clifton—brown is treasurer of 1922 committee of backbench tory mp's — the committee which would trigger any leadership contest — and also a member of the public accounts committee which is currently hearing from each government department about how they are getting on with preparing to leave the eu. and senior conservative mp and former ministerjohn redwood who thinks "enough is enough" and that the prime minister should take a stronger stance

on brexit negotiations. welcome to both of you. john redwood, what is the problem as far as you are concerned? no problem. i ama as you are concerned? no problem. i am a strong supporter of theresa may andi am a strong supporter of theresa may and i want her to do good deal over britain. we have been pleasant and friendly in responding to their agenda and not ours. now we need to say to them, are you serious about the free trade deal and do you want a comprehensive partnership question of if so, say yes. everything has a sequence. of if so, say yes. everything has a sequence. the government decided to follow the eu sequence. the eu has discussed all the things they wanted to discuss and it is our terms and we need to be very fair and say, look, we're very interested in a full partnership and we will extend free trade to you without the wto tariffs, if that is what you would like if you are not prepared to sit down and sorted out in the next year, we will leave without an

agreement. some people want the chancellor sacked. do you agree with that? i don't think he has been helpful in some of his remarks have been provocative to all of those who wish to get on and leave the eu in a civilised way. it is up to the prime minister to decide who is in the cabinet. do you see him as a roadblock to the kind of brexit he want? he has been helpful. his comment at dave davos was so unhelpful. he has to follow government policy. the policy was set out in the lancaster house speech. me and my colleagues who are sympathetic to brexit want to follow that speech. theresa may's vision has been called

dave. who said that? i am not sure. it is one of your own mps. -- dahl. there is a lack of ambition about her government which means it co nsta ntly her government which means it constantly disappoints. you co nsta ntly constantly disappoints. you constantly get this from members of parliament for the these are from people on your own site. i'm sure they are. we have to move to producing a vision. if she articulated what life would be like once we had left the european union, if she were tougher with ministers, particularly cabinet ministers, she has collective cabinet responsibility. if they have disagreements, this should be done in private and not in public. the problem is, once it is done in public it gives backbenchers, the sort of people you are quoting, the licence to make these comments themselves. this good snowball. snowballed to what? making brexit negotiations difficult and our own

situation difficult. —— snowball. cabinet ministers weren't challenging government policy. she has articulated it at florence, we have a settled policy, that is the polymers —— policy which all ministers should support. the problem is she's been prime minister for a while now and has not been able to articulate that brexit vision as yet and not been able to keep her cabinet in line.” vision as yet and not been able to keep her cabinet in line. i think she needs to get tougher with them. we cannot have continual challenge, otherwise the job of government eventually, when everybody is talking about contrary policies, is impossible. she needs to get a grip.

and if she can't? i'm sure she will because otherwise things will get difficult. you mean a leadership challenge? i don't think that is on the cards at the moment. various newspapers reported last week that your committee has received around 40 letters expressing no confidence in the prime minister. my chairman graham brady will not disclose to anybody how many letters he has had. but he has had some? any story that purports to know how many letters he has had doesn't have any credibility. you know what people say to you, what are you hearing? john and i go about talking to a lot of our colleagues, i do not get a sense at this moment in time that there are large number who want to see a leadership change. a

leadership challenge at this moment would be destabilising, there's no obvious candidate to succeed. in my view theresa may needs to get a grip, get these negotiations done and then we move forward with vision after that. and that's the reason there has been no leadership challenge, —— because there is no one candidate people could support. the party at the moment doesn't want a leadership contest, asjeffrey has rightly said, and what you need to remind your audience is that yes, it only takes 48 mps to write a letter but then there has to be a vote of all of the conservative mps on whether we want a leadership election or not. if they did that, they would need to know they had another 120 colleagues who would back them, otherwise theyjust make

the position worse and look very silly. do you want mrs may to announce a date when she will stand down? no, i want announce a date when she will stand down? no, iwant to announce a date when she will stand down? no, i want to firm up the british position and l down? no, i want to firm up the british position and i back theresa may. the whole country would breathe a sigh of relief if we got on the front foot with these negotiations. we have got a timetable.” front foot with these negotiations. we have got a timetable. i agree that on the wider issues theresa may does have a vision and she set it out very well in her first major speech when she took on the job.” think people need to know what that looks like in practical terms. brexit has dominated parliament, and i would say to my fellow mps there are other things besides brexit and maybe we need to give airtime to other subjects. do you want mrs may to announce a date when she will stand down? know, the party will

decide that in due course. do you wa nt decide that in due course. do you want her to fight the next election? isimply want her to fight the next election? i simply don't think we know at this point in time. if we get a fantastic brexit negotiations she could well lead us into the next election. it is largely up to her leadership how she achieves all of that. thank you, both. reporting 2014 revealed 1400 children had been exploited in the town over a period of 16 years. now ofsted has rated the service as good. sammy woodhouse is a survivor of abuse in rotherham.

we've been following her story on this programme for some time now. first of all, your reaction to the fa ct first of all, your reaction to the fact that children's services in rotherham are now rated as good?” think it is fantastic. in rotherham we have been through such a journey over the last few years and we have heard of the heartache that's been happening, so today to finally hear that services are finally getting things right, and when that happens it means people's lives are improving and that is exactly what we wa nt improving and that is exactly what we want from those services. but how have you been working with the authorities to try to turn things around? i have been doing a bit of everything really, sharing my experience, what could have worked for me, and trying to do a little bit of everything. i know a lot of other people have as well. of course i don't work for the council so i

don't get to see everything happening but i have spoken to staff and they have said they have seen a big improvement on leadership. i got to go to the rotherham pride awards which was set up for the children in care, praising them for the work they are doing. just before christmas i spent a few hours with the children in care and the staff as well so there's lots of good things happening. we just as well so there's lots of good things happening. wejust never really hear about those things. you also go into schools to talk to pupils about grooming. what do you share with them about your own experience? i cannot share too much with the children about what i went through because it is important i educate the kids and not terrify them. in fact there is actually a campaign going at the moment which i support, about going into schools

and giving kids the correct knowledge, what is grooming, how it can happen, if we have been hurt how we can treat each other and who we can talk to. give kids the tools rather than scaring them. and how are you? i'm doing really well at the moment. my focus is my kids and my campaign work which is going really well, talking to schools, police forces, social services, working on policies, different laws. i'm trying to do everything i can. campaigning is something i am so passionate about so when i got the news today about this report, i thought this is exactly why i campaign and! thought this is exactly why i campaign and i work like i do. if ofsted said actually you are still not doing things right, i would have been devastated. thank you for coming on the programme. next, some really quite startling

figures. nearly three babies die every week in england as a result of sleeping in the same beds as their parents. that's according to new figures obtained from the department for education by the daily mirror, which show that 665 babies have died in the past five years where so—called co—sleeping was a factor. young children are at risk of their parents rolling over and suffocating them, or from overheating. last year this programme spoke to parents who co—sleep with their babies, many of whom are fearful about being judged. one mum, dawn barclay, told us how she lost her baby in 2014. it was just a normal morning, and fearne had slept quite well until five o'clock in the morning, had

woken up and had a feed. and we have both fallen back asleep but we were lying on the couch. when i woke up, i obviously discovered she wasn't breathing. i remember lifting her up and just running through to andy and screaming that she was gone. and... and it was amazing. he started doing cpr. i thought he had managed to bring her back. he managed to get the colour to come back in her cheeks, so her daddy gave her her

last breath. with me now is francine bates, chief executive of the lullaby trust, which promotes awareness of sudden infant death syndrome. hello. the figures obtained, you wa nt hello. the figures obtained, you want but some caveats alongside them, don't you? it's important because they want to identify the co—sleeping factor and it is true co—sleeping factor and it is true co—sleeping was indicated in all of those deaths but there are other factors when you are looking at co—sleeping and the key factors in many cases relate to whether the pa rent many cases relate to whether the parent was a smoker, whether they had had a drink, whether they took drugs. also there are other factors in relation to co—sleeping to do with the prematurity of the baby, do they —— the weight of the baby and

whether the parent was excessively tired. and those figures the newspaper got didn't look at whether there were any other risk factors involved? not at all. let's talk about those risk factors. we are talking about an adult lying in a bed or having a baby on the sofa with them. if they have smoked, had a drink, on prescription medicine, this is relevant. they are what we call risky factors. you mentioned sleeping on a sofa. sleeping on a sofa with a baby is the worst possible thing you can do and it has a huge risk factor for sudden possible thing you can do and it has a huge risk factorfor sudden infant death syndrome. there are many people who co—sleep successfully, having not smoked, not had an alcoholic drink, not on prescription medicine, the room temperature is right... is it safe? iwould

medicine, the room temperature is right... is it safe? i would say it is mostly safe. we can never say 100% safe. there are sadly very few cases where a baby may die of sudden infa nt cases where a baby may die of sudden infant death syndrome. we don't know why sudden infant death syndrome ta kes why sudden infant death syndrome takes place, we only know the risk factors. even find advice on our website, if you follow that you will be pretty sure your baby will be safe but it is imperative you don't drink, don't smoke and don't take drugs and co—sleep with your baby because the risk factors shoot up. and briefly as far as the lullaby trust is concerned, where is the safest place for your baby to sleep? the safest place to sleep, and this is backed up by evidence, is in a court or moses basket for the first six months of your baby's life. thank you, francine bates.

on the programme tomorrow — we'll look at the impact of benefit sanctions. thanks for watching today, we are back tomorrow at nine o'clock, have a good day. turning colder through the next couple of days. there have been heavy bursts of rain and as we move through the afternoon this will continue to sink southwards. behind it brighter conditions feeding in, scattered showers in the north and west, some of which could be wintry over higher ground, windy in the

north with temperatures clears the south coast. for england and wales we will see a dry night with lighter winds and that means the temperatures will fall away. a much colder night to come and a few spots below freezing so a touch of frost first thing to start the day tomorrow. also some patches of mist and fog, it will turn cloudy with outbreaks of rain in the south—west, also some heavy and persistent rain for north—west parts of scotland, temperatures though not feeling particularly warm with highs of nine celsius. this is bbc news, and these are the top stories developing at 11am: cabinet ministers meet to discuss

the next phase of brexit after renewed criticism from some mps over theresa may's approach. at the same time, eu ministers are set to agree their position for the transition period after brexit. a man is due before magistrates, charged in connection with the deaths of three teenagers in a car crash in west london. a second man is being questioned. a group of mps accuses carillion of trying to "wriggle out" of its obligations to pensioners — while paying dividends and high salaries. also: was a "youthquake" responsible for the conservatives poor polling at the last general election? new research suggests the so—called "youthquake" forjeremy corbyn was little more than a tremor.