hello, it's wednesday, it's 9am, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. tesco is facing britain's largest ever equal pay claim and the possible bill running to £4 billion. women working on the shop floor claim they are paid up to £3 an hour less tha n claim they are paid up to £3 an hour less than warehouse workers. those warehouse workers are mainly men. there's obviously discrepancies with distribution and shop floor workers. that's what we are saying, we just wa nt to that's what we are saying, we just want to be paid the same. we hear from one of the lawyers representing around 100 of the women. plus, in her only broadcast interview, we'll talk to facebook‘s most powerful executive in europe and mum of four, nicola mendelsohn about being diagnosed with an incurable form of blood cancer. she wants to use her her experience as the most powerful british woman in the tech sector to find new ways to treat the blood disease. and what happens to a working class town when the main source of work is taken away? the steelworks at redcar shut down two years ago,

but what future do the people living there now face? you've got, like, a group of people now, who are so marginalised, which is the over—50, predominantly white working class man, who will never, ever work again. 3000 jobs went when the steel plant closed, we have an exclusive report from redcar. hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until ”am this morning. as we are each weekday. if you work for tesco, on the shop floor or in the warehouse do let me know. is the job of someone who works in store, on the tills of equal worth to someone who works in the warehouse? and also, the high court will this morning hear the start of a legal challenge against the release of the black cab rapist, john worboys. were you one of those

who got into his cab and were targetted by him? do get in touch and let me know the questions you want answered about why the parole board has made that decision to release him. you can get in touch anonymously. our top story today. tesco is facing britain's largest equal pay law suit which could affect up to 200,000 mostly female shop floor workers. 0ur economics editor, kamal ahmed has got the latest. tesco hasjoined a long list of organisations facing controversies over equal pay. among retailers, asda and sainsbury are facing similar legal battles. birmingham city council has already agreed to over £1 billion worth of payments for women cleaners and carers and the bbc has been accused of not paying men and women equally. tesco, as one of the country's largest employers, is now facing a series of test cases, which could lead to the largest equal pay claim in employment history. lawyers for tesco‘s supermarket

workers said that female staff on hourly rates earn considerably less than men even though the value of the work is comparable. kim element and pamjenkins have worked for tesco for over 20 years. i think that although we think we have equal rights, there are times where there are such discrepancies that you can't explain them. and i think tesco‘s just one of many companies that aren't addressing the fact that women seem to still be paid less. tesco said that all their staff could progress equally and were paid fairly, whatever their gender or background. in a statement, the supermarket said: this is the start of a long legal battle. tesco just the latest business to be

caught up in a fight over equal pay. kamal is here. is this just about tesco? is thisjust about tesco? it isn't. this is a modern—day dilemma for not just businesses but public authorities that have faced similar claims. sainsbury ‘s and asda are fighting similar claims. it comes down to this fundamental issue. it's not about to pay for the same job, which was the carrie gracie issue, which was the carrie gracie issue, which the bbc was facing. it is about to business value and public authorities valued jobs predominantly done by women in the same way they value jobs predominantly done by men. in this case shop working versus warehouse work. but if you think of professions that are mostly done by women, caring, catering, cleaning, they tend to be paid less than the

type of jobs they tend to be paid less than the type ofjobs that are done in the main by men, lorry driving, warehouse work, bin collection. is that a fundamental equal pay issue? that's what's at the heart of this debate. a bit like the birmingham city council dinner ladies versus the bin men. absolutely. what are tesco saying? it is interesting, the lawyer says tesco are actually a very good employer. they have done gender pay audits forjobs for women and men working in the same place in the business. this is a bigger structural issue. tesco are saying we do approach these things equally, we do approach these things equally, we are an equal opportunities employer. we take gender very seriously. i think that is right. the issue for them is the same as many other businesses, there is a structural issue underlying this. the women that i spoke to us who are still working for tesco and have been working for tesco for over 20 yea rs, been working for tesco for over 20 years, you need great bravery to ta ke years, you need great bravery to take these type of cases. they will probably last for many, many years.

the astor case has been going on for many years already. women who fight these cases have to be ready for this huge battle because tesco knows if it loses, this liability could run to billions of pounds. because we are talking about backpay? backpay for up to six years, the people already retired could take a claim against tesco. there are over 200,000 shop workers that tesco employs in the uk, they are one... they are the country's biggest private employer. tesco has to make thisjudgment. it private employer. tesco has to make this judgment. it gets accused of discrimination, which it denies, or it faces a huge bill. that is the big struggle for businesses, how do they move into the 21st century, valuing different types ofjobs equally without giving themselves these huge liabilities? birmingham city council, which you touched on, has got a bill of over £1 billion. that needs to come from taxpayers,

council tax payers. they've got to provide services. tesco's profits will be sucked up by £4 billion. that is the issue, many businesses are facing this challenge. thank you. annita is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the days news. good morning. theresa may is to meet senior ministers later to try to agree the government's approach for phase. let's talk to transition phase. let's talk to norman smith, assistant political editor in westminster. good morning. we know there's a difference of approach in government about what to do next what can we expect from today? not very much i think is the

honest answer. despite the fact that we know business is screaming at the government to provide greater clarity, despite the fact that we know eu officials are saying to mrs may, come on, what do you want? the signs are that over the next two days of talks with senior ministers, we will not reach a final position. in part, that's because throughout this negotiation, we have shown our hand pretty late in the day. in part, it's because the focus at the moment is on getting that transition deal, we have to get that first post but in part it's because of the scale of divisions still between senior ministers, like philip hammond, the chancellor who say, look, we've got to stay close to the eu to minimise any potential damage to business. and those like boris johnson who say, we've got to cut free so we can strike our own free trade deals. that's the real golden opportunity from brexit. the consequence of that is that we may still not know for some weeks yet exactly what mrs may's final brexit position is. thank you. hundreds and

thousands of pa rt—time position is. thank you. hundreds and thousands of part—time flexible workers are to receive new rides including holiday and sick bay for the first time. it is part of the government's responding to a review to the so—called gig economy recommending a number of changes to reflect modern working practices. the number of self—employed workers has in recent league increased due to apps like uber and deliveroo. the high court is to hear a challenge on the release of john high court is to hear a challenge on the release ofjohn worboys. —— . they announced he would be freed after less than nine years in prison and he is thought to have drugged and he is thought to have drugged and attacked more than 100 women after picking them up in his taxi in london. exclusive research for this programme has revealed that in parts of the country, the number of people working full—time has fallen. despite a record number of people being in full—time work, analysis by the resolution foundation has found the resolution foundation has found

the london alone accounts for half of the increase over the last decade. in other areas such as north yorkshire, strathclyde, merseyside and wales, the number of people working full—time has actually fallen. we have a special report from redcar, which lost its steel pla nts two from redcar, which lost its steel plants two years ago. the uk could adopt a deposit —based system for recycling plastic bottles at a ministerial delegation visited norway to see how we scheme that operates. the consumer pays a deposit of around 10p or 25p, depending on the size of the bottle and then returns it empty to a special machine where they receive a coupon for the deposit. in norway, the industry led scheme recycles 98% of bottles. 0nly around half of plastic bottles are recycled in the uk. the world's most powerful rocket, the falcon heavy, has successfully launched for the first time. american billionaire elon musk, whose company spacex is behind the project, has called it a game changer for space travel. the $19 million space craft could one day transport people and supplies as far as mars,

but on it's maiden voyage the cargo is elon musk‘s own tesla car, with a space—suited mannequin in the driver's seat. new dna analysis of britain's oldest complete skeleton has found he had much darker skin than previously thought and blue eyes. the man's 10,000 year—old remains were unearthed at cheddar gorge more than a hundred years ago. now breakthroughs in dna sequencing have allowed scientists from the natural history museum to create this model of what he would have looked like just before he died. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30. steve has tweeted on the tesco issue, saying women and men get paid equally for doing the same job, not for what individuals consider work of comparable value. this seems to be total nonsense. 0n the subject of iran, we have a film coming up on

that, matt on facebook says the white working class has been marginalised and forgotten for decades —— on the subject of redcar. we will talk to a labour mp and a conservative mp about that after 10am this morning. is do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. let's get some sport with hugh ferris. england are still playing cricket in australia, how is it going? they are still playing cricket in australia, good morning. notjust against australia, the third form of the game to be played over the winter. and the third different kit as well. australia are already better at test cricket, england are better at one—day cricket, so what about t20 cricket? they are playing australia this morning. playing australia this morning in their first match of a tri series tournament. the other team is new zealand... who the aussies have already beaten. started about 20 minutes ago in hobart. and australia won the toss. jason roy, the england opener was

out injust jason roy, the england opener was out in just the second over. david malan replaced him... and got to work. pretty quickly. that's six and an over containing three boundaries. alex hales has fallen. his first delivery of the entire game. it is 77-2. delivery of the entire game. it is 77—2. england are in the eighth over. fa cup fifth round has thrown up a revenge match between a manager and his former club. i love a revenge match in football. carlos ca rvalhal was sacked on christmas eve by sheffield wednesday. but now as swansea manager he has a chance to show what they've been missing. the portuguese coach wasn't considered good enough to take wednesday out of the championship. but swansea think he's good enough to keep them out of the championship. he's taken them out of the premier league bottom three after wining five of his 10 games in charge.

including last night's fourth round replay against notts county... they didn't just win they didn'tjust win it... it finished 8—1. that result means they will play sheffield wednesday in the next round. two goals each for nathan dyer and tammy abraham. huddersfield and rochdale also went through. and a premier league player has gone missing, where is re—admirers? the daily mirror this morning has the words "have you seen this man?" alongside a picture of riyad mahrez. he was one of the big stories of transfer deadline day. this time last week he handed in a transfer request at leicester as manchester city made a fourth bid of around £60 million for him. leicester turned it down... the deal was off... and mahrez hasn't been seen since. the algerian hasn't been in training. he's missed two games... and isn't expected to play in a third... which is this weekend against... guess who... manchester city.

i don't know whether it's necessarily a long con or not, they missed out on the player but at least the consolation is that manchester city don't have to face him at the weekend. it is a story that will develop over time given that will develop over time given that there is four months of the season that there is four months of the season left. thank you. good morning. it is 9:15am. a top british facebook executive has revealed she has a form of blood and says she wants to make her cancer high—profile. nicola mendelsohn is facebook‘s vice—president for europe, the middle east and africa, and one the most powerful british women in the technology industry. she was 46 when she was diagnosed; she's married with four children. the cancer is called follicular lympona. we can talk to nicola mendelsohn in her only broadcast interview....

good morning, thank you for coming on the programme. how are you? i'm doing all right. i'm not ill in the way you think someone with cancer would be. explain that a little more. your cancer diagnosis, you are told it is incurable, at the moment anyway. that is right. it all started in november, 2016. i had a tiny lump, tiny. i mentioned it to the doctor and he said properly nothing. go away —— it will go away, she said if not come back and we will see what it is. i went back and she wasn't sure who to send meeting. i eventually went to see a it was gynaecologist to thought it was probably nothing also. literally at the last minute said, let's just do act the last minute said, let's just do a ct scan to check. that is when everything changed. it was a friday afternoon. i had a ct scan and it basically i had tumours up and upper

body, small ones everywhere. that was friday afternoon and that was it. then we had to wait. we didn't know what to do. we had to see other doctors, but couldn't see anyone until monday. it was a hard weekend. i bet. when you are told there are tumours that a medical professional conceit up and down your body on a scan, what do you initially think? they thought it was some sort of cancer but they didn't know what it was and i did what anybody would, i spent the weekend googling and it's not fun doing that. all be things it looks that had horrible prognoses. the word cancer is a horrible word. i'd gone from thinking about business meetings and planning things with the kids, to having this suddenly smacked me in the face, thinking about whether i was going to live or die and how long did i have? was i going to see grandchildren? it was really tough, really, really ha rd. grandchildren? it was really tough, really, really hard. it was a horrible weekend. was there a

profound shift in your whole mindset and life? i think when you have a moment where death confronts you so abruptly, yeah, ithink moment where death confronts you so abruptly, yeah, i think it does make you think about things in a different way. what i decided was, actually i'm a very optimistic person and that is not too i am. i'm not the person that weighs heavily with things, even though this is the ha rd est with things, even though this is the hardest thing i have ever had to deal with. i remember thinking, hardest thing i have ever had to dealwith. i rememberthinking, ifi am going to go on that monday to see different doctors again to start and work out what this thing was, i'm going to embrace it with the way i've always tried to live my life. at that point i hadn't told the children, so we were still piecing together what the diagnosis actually. you are sort of on a conveyor actually. you are sort of on a co nveyor co nveyor actually. you are sort of on a conveyor conveyor belt. is it this? no. have a biopsy, a pet scan, this doctor and that doctor until we got

the diagnosis, follicular lympona, which i had never heard of. a nice asbos most people watching have never heard of. —— and i suppose most people watching have never heard of. it is a blood cancer, the fifth most common cancer and i don't think it has enough awareness or enough money going into the research either. we will talk about your effo rts either. we will talk about your efforts to change that a little later on. when you were diagnosed, your children, four children aged between 13 and 20, alongside your husband, you sat down and told them the truth? yes, we did. we delayed telling them for a few days because we had a big family celebration and we had a big family celebration and we wa nted we had a big family celebration and we wanted to know exactly what it was. we waited until the family separation was out of the way so it didn't taint it. then we gathered the children to sit around the table in the kitchen. it was really hard, i couldn't get the words. john was amazing, in helping me. they were

flawed. you expect your mum to be this strong person. what you say? i said, i have some hard news to share with you and i want you to know i will always be honest with you, but i have a cancer. it's not as bad as some cancers but it's my cancer. they didn't know what to say. there we re they didn't know what to say. there were some tears and then my youngest turned around and said, are you going to die, ma'am? what did you say? i couldn't get the words out. that's not what you want, he was 12 at the time, i didn't want my 12—year—old to be asking me a question like that. john helped. then he just put his hand across the table and he came and gave me this big hug and it was finished. there we re big hug and it was finished. there were tears galore. how did the older ones react? they took their cues from him. ispoke ones react? they took their cues from him. i spoke to them all the time about it but i spoke to them

about a week or so before i did the article to see how they work and how they felt about me sharing the story said publicly, because it involves them, and how they work. we don't talk about it all the time. they said, we are doing all right, mum, because we take our cues from you and you seem to be doing all right. if you are doing all right, we are doing all right. that was a big relief. they don't think about it as much as i do. they were following your example, effectively. yes. how have you been able to rationalise the fact that there isn't. .. there isn't a cure for your cancer? that is, ithink isn't a cure for your cancer? that is, i think that's the hardest thing about it. i think when you hear the word cancer, you think, i'm going to have the treatment and then i will be done and i will be cured. this is not like that. in many ways it is a life sentence, is something i've had

to adjust, that's always in my head, but i'm hopeful. as i said, i'm an optimist and i think if more people can raise awareness, more money can go into it. the moment are incredible. the treatments are getting better but there is no absolute treatment yet. hopefully, maybe one day there will be. you are diagnosed in november 2016 and have only just diagnosed in november 2016 and have onlyjust gone public, why now? there are a number of different reasons. it has taken me a while to get used to it in my own head. but also, one of the things that has been an amazing comfort and support to me isa been an amazing comfort and support to me is a group on facebook called living with follicular lymphoma. it took me a couple of months to even realise or check out if there was a group on facebook, and there was. it was new and it had just started. i wrote to the admin, a lady called nicky who lives in perth. i said hi nicola, i worked at facebook, i

think i could help and i've got follicular lympona. she thought it was a joke. she didn't think it was real. she said, ok. so we've become the co—admin of this group. real. she said, ok. so we've become the co-admin of this group. is that the co-admin of this group. is that the first time us facebook executive have looked for a facebook group for help and support? to do medical things. i'm in great groups, book clu bs things. i'm in great groups, book clubs and top tips for women over 40 and fun things but i haven't gone somewhere for a group that is so meaningful and helpful to me. from a couple of hundred people we have grown the group. the group is now nearly 4000 people, all with follicular lympona, all who understand each other and can offer practical support. i actually met her this morning for the first time. she has flown over because facebook is hosting an event this week for people running groups on facebook so we can learn and share best tips about how to admin group. how was that meeting? very emotional. we met

downstairs and i was like, there she is. we have this huge bond. she has become a friend. someone i share most intimate parts of my life with. she really understands me, she has kids as well. we're going to spend some time together this week and i am really looking forward to it. what do you now know about follicular lympona so many things. how lucky i am to live in london because we have amazing doctors, not eve ryo ne because we have amazing doctors, not everyone is so lucky. i know there is not one absolute way of treating it. it's very much about the relationship between you and your doctor and whether you want to have treatment. i have not had any treatment. i have not had any treatment. i've chosen gold watch and wait, again, i've never heard of it, that you can have a cancer and elect not to treat it. everyone thinks you go straight into a very gruelling treatment regime. and that will come at some point. but the evidence at the moment the follicular lympona is there is no

evidence to say treating early will increase your life expectancy but there is evidence to say having treatments can be harmful and toxic. that is why i have elected not to have. i don't have symptoms, on the same asi have. i don't have symptoms, on the same as i was a have. i don't have symptoms, on the same as i was a year ago. have. i don't have symptoms, on the same as i was a year ago. i have a few more lumps and bumps but i am actually healthier than i have been, as well. extraordinary. do you have people saying to you, you look so well, you can't, it can't be a real cancer? i do, and that is something the people in the group talk a lot about. people have been told that it isa about. people have been told that it is a fake cancer, it's not real. that is so hard, if people understand the mental anguish people go through with this, it's difficult, but it is there always. 0ne difficult, but it is there always. one of the doctors described it to me when i was first diagnosed as saying, it is like having a hitchhiker in your car. never leaves you. try and keep it in the boot as long as you can, but sometimes it comes up and sits on the front seat and that is when you have two bash it back. in many ways this cancer is more like a chronic disease, like

diabetes or crohn's, where the episode where it throws up, you have some gruelling treatment and then hopefully you can put it to bed again. where does work now fit into your life, after this diagnosis?” think i'm incredibly blessed to work at facebook, which has been very, very supportive to me from the get 90, very supportive to me from the get go, the diagnosis. all my colleagues, my peers and bosses are like, how can we help, what can we do to help you? in many ways, like i said about my children, things haven't changed that much for me. i do exercise now, which i never did. i was one of those people, i'm never doing exercise! i now know exercise is incredibly important. i'm doing it twice a week, i've made time. i travel a lot with myjob. i'm a bit kinder to my body, i'm not doing those early mornings, getting up at 5am, trying to go the night before to make it a bit easierfor me. but i'm really lucky that work has been as helpful, kind, considerate and caring as they have. you have

already made it clear you want more money to go into research into this particular cancer. how can you help make that happen?” particular cancer. how can you help make that happen? i think hopefully by telling my story, also getting more people tojoin by telling my story, also getting more people to join the group as well. as i say, we've seen hundreds of peoplejoining the well. as i say, we've seen hundreds of people joining the group well. as i say, we've seen hundreds of peoplejoining the group in well. as i say, we've seen hundreds of people joining the group in the last few days. they didn't know such a group existed. i see from the comments that people write how much they love the group and how supportive it is, how helpful it is. there is groups like that for people with all types of diseases and illnesses. there are people out there that understand. one viewer on facebook says what an amazing woman this facebook boss is. my thoughts are with her. another says, thank you for bringing attention to blood cancers, so many of which are in durable. and another, such an inspiration. how amazing she is helping people through a facebook group. and another wants to give you a big hug. the support since you have gone public, has it been

overwhelming? thank you for my hug, i will take it. the support has been com pletely i will take it. the support has been completely overwhelming. i feel like anybody i've ever met in my whole life, from being a kid at school, has reached out just life, from being a kid at school, has reached outjust to say, you, we support you, let us know what we can do. text messages, facebook messages, e—mails, letters, iam so overwhelmed. people are so good and so kind and just want to help. thank you. thank you is what i would say, because i didn't expect it. i didn't think i'd be talking to you now. but if it helps just one more person, thenit if it helps just one more person, then it is worth it. it is not easy doing this. this is not what i do. but if it helps one or two more people, then it is worth it. nigel says, facebook groups played a vital role in helping me find stem cell treatment for my ms. that is great. by treatment for my ms. that is great. by going to russia, it has totally changed my life. gwen says nicola

mendelsohn is so brave and inspiring. in doing this interview she has educated me and probably millions of viewers. i wish you and yourfamily millions of viewers. i wish you and your family strength and ongoing determination. i applaud you. there are many more. those kind of representative. how do you feel about the future? do you know... i have always felt grateful for the life i have. i have an amazing husband, john, who has always been my rock and has always been so supportive in everything i have done. an amazing family, parents, brothers. incredible kids. ifeel lucky and less to do the things i do. and to know this is not a dress rehearsal, it never has been. it's a lwa ys rehearsal, it never has been. it's always been part of what we talk about, how you live a life well. sometimes you get stuff thrown at you that you didn't expect and for me it has always been about how you react in the moment of those things, as hard as they are. how do i feel?

iam going as hard as they are. how do i feel? i am going to remain optimistic and grateful, and hopeful that some amazing doctor or researchers out there will find this cure, find a way to treat people in new ways that we have an even dreamt of yet. we have put man on the moon 40 odd yea rs have put man on the moon 40 odd years ago, we ought to be able to do more for people out there that are suffering, not just with more for people out there that are suffering, notjust with this disease but all diseases and i think we will. that is a really important message. this is it. this is the life we have, so let's get on with it, let's make the most of it. thank you very much for talking to us. we wish you lots of love and strength and luck and everything, thank you. and thank you to you for all you have done for this whole area, it's been amazing and totally inspiring as well. thank you very much, thank you. still to come: we travel to redcar in the northeast of england, which lost its steel plant and almost 3,000 jobs two years ago, so what future are the people living there now facing?

in a major breakthrough for the private space travel industry, the world's most powerful rocket, the falcon heavy, has successfully launched for the first time from cape canaveral in florida. american billionaire elon musk, whose company spacex is behind the project, has called the near flawless blast—off a game changer. time for the latest news — here's annita. the bbc news headlines this morning. tesco is facing britain's largest ever equal pay law suit which could affect up to 200,000 mostly female shop workers. the women, who work on the shop floor, say they earn considerably less than men who work in the compa ny‘s distribution centres. lawyers estimate the supermarket could be liable for up to £4 billion in back pay if it loses. tesco says it's not yet seen the claims, but that it works hard to make sure employees are paid fairly. theresa may is to meet senior ministers later, to try to agree the government's approach for the next stage of the brexit negotiations.

it comes after leaked documents show the european union wants to be able to restrict the uk's access to the single market if there is a dispute after brexit. the power to suspend "certain benefits" would apply during the post—brexit transition phase. hundreds of thousands of part—time and flexible workers are to receive new rights, including holiday and sick pay, for the first time. the plans are part of the government's response to a review into the so—called gig economy, which recommended a number of changes to reflect modern working practices. the number of self—employed workers has risen in recent years, partly due to apps like uber and deliveroo. the high court will hear the start of a legal challenge this morning against the release of the serial sex attacker, john worboys. last month the parole board was criticised when it announced that worboys would be freed after less than nine years in prison. he is thought to have drugged and attacked more than a hundred women after picking them up in his taxi in london. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30am.

alison tweeted, i was diagnosed with follicular lymphoma almost 11 years ago and have been fortunate enough to have never had a relapse having had six months of treatment. it is, they say, incurable, but it is treatable. adam says this... bear with me, my tablet has frozen, i will do it on here... my father was diagnosed with incurable blood cancer, he takes pills every day to balance his blood cells, gets checkups every three months. as long as these pills keep working, he can still live a long life says adam. head says very inspiring and brave stuff from nicola mendelsohn. you can feel her strength of spirit, what a brave lady. thank you for

sharing your cat is a story today. there are 200 different kinds of cancer. my husband has been diagnosed twice with cancer and this time he has an incurable small cell bladder cancer. could facebook have a special area for all cancer groups to share and fund? keep those coming sport now with hugh. the tests and one dayers are done. now england are playing t20 cricket in australia. england have begun their t20 tri—series with a match against the aussies in hobart this morning. and dawid malan has led the charge with the bat. but england have lost three wickets. in fact, a fourth now. 109—4 in hobart. swansea thrashed notts county 8—1 to set up a fa cup fifth round tie against their new manager carlos carvalhal‘s former club sheffield wednesday. he was sacked by the championship team just before christmas. and riyad mahrez is still not training with leicester. he was refused a move to manchester city on transfer deadline day. and may well come as a result,

missed the match in the premier league on saturday against manchester city. and jason and laura kenny will represent great britain together for the first time since the olympics after being selected for the track cycling world championships in the netherlands. since rio they've got married, laura's had a baby, and jason has retired... briefly... more coming up after 10am. thank you. time for an update in the trial of former football coach barry bennell. 0ur reporterjim reed is here. andjim, the defence has now closed its case. yes. this is the trial of 64—year—old barry bennell. he was a youth football coach linked to manchester city and crewe alexandra football clubs. he denies 45 counts of historic abuse in this case. yesterday, then, we had the closing speech from defence barrister eleanor laws who represents mr bennell. she asked the jurors to put aside their "revulsion" for mr bennell as they consider their verdicts. she then reminded the jury about the publicity around previous

guilty pleas mr bennell made in 1997. she said: "there has been a great deal of publicity and indeed a great deal of contact between complainants." she outlined the compensation claims made by some of the alleged victims in this case and the contact they had with solicitors about those claims. she said one man launched a civil action against manchester city in march 2000 and 16. —— 2016. she said barry bennell‘s time in prison for abuse offences he admitted in the past had had a "profound effect" on him. she said: "it's an inescapable fact that the man we see on that screen is a different man to the man who was abusing those boys." he is appearing by video link, which is why she says screen. what happens next? the judge started his summing up next? the judge started his summing up yesterday will continue. the judge told the jury of five men and seven women: "it is your task to consider and evaluate those arguments and the evidence coolly and dispassionately and,

as both counsel have emphasised, without emotion." he will continue his summing up today. as i said, mr bennell denies the 45 charges in this case. thank you. coming up... more on the successful launch of elon musk‘s falcon rocket. the american billionaire, whose company spacex is behind the project, has called the near flawless blast—off a game changer. we will talk more about that later. new exclusive research for this programme has found that, despite record employment levels, in parts of the country the number of people with a fulltime job has actually fallen over the last decade. what does the future hold for the community in redcar? we used to make the finest steel in the world. unfortunately, now we make lattes and sandwiches. if you didn't know anybody who worked in the steel industry, you know somebody's brother

who worked in the steel industry. it was a close community. and when it shut down, there was people just wandering around like zombies. i don't think, on a national or international scale, there was anyone speaking for us. i don't think any political party was really speaking for us. i don't care who says, oh, yeah, they understand. no, they don't. they don't go home on a night and think, "can i put the heating on? have i got enough electricity? have i got enough gas? what are the kids going to eat?" we might be white dominant, but we're certainly not racist. we welcome everyone here. it's a nice community to be in. sitting on the stunning coastline of the north—eastern edge of england, redcar and cleveland is a place built on heavy industry. two years ago, its steelworks closed its doors for the last time

and with it went the jobs of almost 3,000 people. it's also officially the whitest part of the country, where 98% of the population are white british. but this is a place that tells the story of what happens to a working—class town when work is taken away. a place where, for 170 years, men could expect a job for life making its world—renowned steel. this is part of the country where, despite the record numbers of people now in work, the number of people in full—time jobs has actually fallen. speak to anyone here, they'll tell you about lack of investment, frustration at westminster and those in power, a feeling of being forgotten. and all in the long shadow of those well—paid

steeljobs going and no chance of them coming back. we've got this force, nat task force, and that task force and everything else, but you'll never ever going to replace what we had. frankie wales is in ex—steelworker and amateur boxer who now runs a local charity. when people say white working class, you know, you just think, "it's not a ghetto, that's because people haven't come here," and i'm not sure. why do you think people haven't come here? well, there's no work, is there? why would you? as well as the boxing gym, his charity runs dance, bingo and activity days for older people, made possible by volunteers, including men from the steelworks — men who would rather be working. we bring a lot of the old ex—steelworkers, who are in their 50s, probably aren't going to work again, but it makes them feel better because they can sit down and have craic and a cup of tea, have this, that and the other with them and talk about some of the old times, you know. terry frank and martin mcardle are two of those ex—steelworkers. the jobs they thought

would take them to retirement disappeared in 2015. we had, like, 15 years and i thought, well, that's me — 15 years, i'll be retiring, i'll be quite happy, you know what i mean? i could see my future there, could see my house paid for and everything. everything would be done. now that's gone, that's everything up in the air for me now. when the bell was tolling for the end of it, well, surely the government can step in and help us out here. they've done it in other european countries. why can't they do it? "hands are tied." that's all you ever got — "hands are tied, it's eu legislation, we're not allowed to step in and help." and you just think, come on! i think the working—class man around here is a thing of the past. you've got a group of people now who are so marginalised, which are the over—50, predominantly white working class man, who will never ever work again. it's like, what do you do? oh, well, you go out for a drink. and now, we've got pubs that open at nine o'clock in the morning, and it's all right going out for a drink maybe friday, saturday, something like that, and then go to the work for the rest of the week but, unfortunately, now, that's all they've got,

so they're going out at nine o'clock in the morning and staying out all day. and they used to be something. this pub on the high street has been open since 9am. none of the men here wanted to be shown on television when, in different times, they would have just arrived for work. but they talked about what they said was the indignity of navigating the benefits system in their late 50s. one had recently had his benefits stopped for eight weeks for missing an appointment, and they felt it was simply unrealistic to expect them to compete for newjobs totally unsuited to their skills and experience. but five minutes from the pub, a charity project called the men's shed offers men the chance to recreate the world of work. this one is for my wife. a few brownie points for valentine's day, possibly. it's a man's shed because it is a men's environment, because it's somewhere where men want to be men. it's difficult for men

to open up and talk to people, unless you're in a situation like this, where you get to know people and you get to open up. and apart from that, we don't need ladies in here. we'd have to restrict our language and our behaviour a lot, so... he chuckles as good as it is, you'd rather be working? oh, yeah, of course. up until six years ago, i'd pretty much worked all my life, differentjobs. it's very difficult. i went from earning £30,000 a year one week to benefit the next week. one week to benefits the next week. i was diagnosed with bowel and liver cancer in april 2012. i, sort of, keep myself going. i've got four kids. one is only six. i've come to the fact that i am not curable. it is going to kill me and it's probably going to kill me sooner

than i really want it to, but that's the facts of life and you just get on with it, smile, keep happy and keep going. keep coming here. i asked mark how he felt as a man on benefits, and how people in his situation are seen. ignored. absolutely ignored. their feelings are not taken into consideration, the emotional aspect of things is not taken into consideration. politicians don't live in the real world. they're in a bubble and i don't care who says, oh, yeah, they understand. no, they don't. you know what i mean? they don't go home on a night and think, "can i put the heating on? can i put the heating on? have i got enough electricity? have i got out of gas? what are the kids going to eat?" pictures on the internet of mps asleep in the comments. yeah, you try and get a builder to have a nap on the job site, you know what i mean? he'd be gone, he'd be sacked, so why can't they be? the same charity also runs a discounted shop,

where people on the edge can pay £2 for a basket of food. because food bank clients can only have maybe three or four vouchers in a six—month period, and that isn't long enough for them to get out of the situation, the crisis period that they're in. they come in, take a basket and they choose ten items of food. people over the age of 60, 65 weren't using food banks because it's almost like going begging for food, asking for a hand—out, but they're quite happy to come and use the next step shop, because they're getting a bargain. we now have eight centres across the whole of redcar and cleveland. what we were finding was that people from east cleveland were having to walk nine miles to come and get their food bank parcel and then nine miles back, carrying a couple of shopping bags. just down the road is paul kitchener, a local entrepreneur who runs a bar called steel bay. it was given the name steel bay as a tribute to the industrial and steel heritage of the town.

we did that because my grandad worked for the steelworks for most of his life, so it was kind of a bit of a tribute to what the town's heritage was. i don't think on a national or international scale, there is anyone speaking for us. i don't think any political party's really speaking for us. the country's gone, really, hasn't it? britain as we used to know it's gone. people around here voted by three to one in favour of brexit, but was that driven by worries about immigration? in this, the whitest bit of england, it's an easy assumption. yeah, we might be white dominant but we're certainly not racist. i know that certainly round here, the working class aren't racist. you can blame them for this, that and the other but i think you'll find that white people are just as equally to blame, whether it be crime, disorder or any other thing that they're blamed for. i think the brexit vote was about people saying, "look, we're here. we want people to take notice of us, we want people to be aware that it's not all right here."

suejeffery is the labour leader of the local council. we need investment, we need people, we need jobs, we need the opportunities that we see happening elsewhere. that's what it was about. it was about a protest vote, a vote that says, "it's time you took notice of us and it's time that there was changed." in any discussion about why teesside's steel industry wasn't saved, the european union comes up. but what about those wider questions of race and identity? how do people in the whitest part of england feel they're perceived? if i held a scottish flag up and went, "hooray for scotland, " you know, "it's a proud scotsman". if i held an irish flag, it would be the same, if i held a welsh flag... looking like me with a face like a robber's dog and no hair, if i held a british flag, they would go, "oh, my goodness, the degradation. look at that racist!" last ten seconds. let's have a big finish! and what about the next generation? white british state school pupils

are now the least likely group to go to university. in england, pupils from a chinese background are twice as likely as their white counterparts to go into higher education. meanwhile, native english speakers have, for the first time, fallen behind schoolchildren who speak english a second language. we've got so much talent out there that, you know, unless you've got five gcses, you can't move on. yet i'm working with kids there who are just unbelievably switched on. they‘ re unbelievable at entrepreneurial things, like buying cans of coke and selling them on the bus for 50p, you know, making 150%, 200% profit — that's entrepreneurial, isn't it? unfortunately, the only thing around here at the minute that's entrepreneurial is selling fags or selling drugs. we get these kids, they get on the straight and narrow, we get them up on a morning, make them get out and get in the gym, get a bit

of training going, get a bit of pride and self—respect. we teach them things that schools don't teach them, like how to make a cup of tea and how to get up in the morning, how to brush your teeth, you know, to fasten shoelaces. things that... you know, i've seen kids at 16 years old who do not know how to make a cup of tea, do not know how to iron a shirt, do not know how to fasten shoelaces. and that is sad. there's nothing for the young lads to go to now, the apprenticeships. there's nothing getting offered to them. i see very little about. i've got a son of my own. hopefully, he might go in the forces or something like that but he'll definitely be away from here. government and council point to the success of a task force set up when the steel plant closed, with new businesses helped to get off the ground and jobs created. but, with full—time employment among men around here down

13% in the last decade, is that enough to make up for what's being lost in places like this — proud places with proud histories? imagine you're a fantastic steel—maker, the best steel in the world, you know, renowned from four corners of the world, from teesside steel we made the sydney harbour bridge, we made the newcastle bridge, you know, all these things — wow, fantastic! 0h, you've got no money because we've taken that off you. so what are you going to do? or you as a journalist... well, you're not allowed to write anything. you can't write a book. oh, no, you can't do that, because it isn't there any more. what would you do? you know, what would you do in the centre of london? you'd go, "oh, my goodness," and suddenly, all the mps would come out and say, "this is terrible, this is terrible, it's probably brexit‘s fault," and then they'd just go, "0h, actually, yeah, there is money for that, there you go". but they didn't do that for us. they've kicked us in the teeth, they took our steel industry away.

a lot of the problem with that is, we were told it was the european union that were going to save us, and then it was government that was going to save us and, basically, nobody saved us so, once again, it is us, the people on the cars of the world, again, just sort of, "there you go, off you go, to glue. we're all right in the bubble of the south". the government has given us a statement, which says: "official figures show there are more people in work than ever before in the uk with employment rising in every region since 2010 — more than half of this growth is outside london and the south east. 0ur industrial strategy sets out an ambitious long term plan for the country that tackles regional disparities in growth and prosperity. in the coming months we will be working with regions to develop local industrial strategies that boost the productivity and earning power of every area." if you are in that area, tell us your own experience. we will speak

toa your own experience. we will speak to a local labour mp and a conservative mp to ask if they have forgotten redcar, basically. coming up: tesco is facing britain's largest ever equal pay law suit. i'll be speaking to solicitor kiran daurka, whose firm is representing up to 1000 tesco employees. women fighting to earn the same as men who work in the warehouse. they say the work is not the same but of equal worth to the company. mental health is a huge issue for you, which is why we cover it readily on our programme. you know that depression is an illness that affects people in all walks of life. billy kee is a striker for the accrington stanley. he's spoken to the bbc about living with severe anxiety and depression. ijust i just wanted tikrit. .. a striker for accrington stanley. i had to for you about tesco. they are

facing potentially very large equal pay suit. ian says, having worked in a distribution warehouse, i can say hand on heart that those workers should be paid more than those shop floor staff. another tweet, if a woman does the same job as a man, it is obvious she should be paid the same. but how can you equate lorry driving with working on a cash till? another says, gutted for tesco, one of ourgiant is another says, gutted for tesco, one of our giant is about to be nibbled to near death over discrepancy that should have happened. if roles like for like between the the same payee should apply. and one more... i will read it later. news and sport on the way at ten o'clock but before that the weather. how are the new graphics going? very well, thank you, they are quite different, have you had a chance to look at them yourself? no, i'm about to now.

there are some things you will recognise, this picture here could bea recognise, this picture here could be a weather watcher's picture. if i click this, if there is snow in the forecast, we can add snow, we could also add rain or wind blowing leeds. the app has been updated, showing the percentage chance of rain, it shows the usual things and animates as well. it has 14 days ahead, as opposed to ten. other things also happening with our new graphics. we have this lovely jet stream happening with our new graphics. we have this lovelyjet stream across north america. we can spin the globe to show that. coming across the atla ntic to show that. coming across the atlantic are moving across our shores. if something was happening in australia, for example, we could tilt this and show you australia. something brand—new is the forecast for the aurora brora is. we get asked this a lot. where there is green and yellow, this is the forecast for tomorrow morning, you have not really got much of a chance of seeing the northern lights as a result. if that was red and a bit

further south, you certainly would. the other thing that has changed, look at that, recognise that?! the other thing that has changed, look at that, recognise that? . if it is clear like this, that is indicating it is sunny. we have had wintry showers. they are clearing away. this is a band of ploughed ahead of a weather front coming in, the weather front producing snow on the weather front producing snow on the hills and some rain. when we zoom the hills and some rain. when we zoom into the high—resolution model, some clear skies around, we can add roads. if we had the m6 and it was snowing, you could see it and we would be able to tell you how it is likely to affect your journey. do you not show the sub any more? we never did. it is shown by clear skies. —— the sunshine any more? in the old system it was brown golden but now it is green like our pleasa nt but now it is green like our pleasant ground. what do people think? so far the response is good, it is exciting. how does it look today?

cold! today looking at old conditions, in fact temperatures as low as —9.8 in parts of the highlands. sleet and snow coming in across the north—west. we had some of that this morning in the south—east. that has now pushed away. a lot of sunshine, as denoted by the green victoria was talking about. as a weather front comes into the north—west on introducing a bit more cloud, some transient smoke at lower levels in northern scotland. that will be replaced by rain. —— transient snow. into the afternoon, some rain in northern ireland, any snow in the hills. if you look at the temperatures, 3—6, it will feel cold. not quite as cold as yesterday but cold nonetheless. through the evening and overnight, the weather front advances, taking the rain and hill snow with it. for wales and other thing, big cloud building. the

clearest skies will be in central and eastern parts of england that is where we have the lowest temperatures. 0nce where we have the lowest temperatures. once again, some frost and once again there is the risk of ice on untreated surfaces almost anywhere. tomorrow morning, under clear skies, some sunshine to start the day. as the weather front continues pushing steadily south—eastwards, it will take the cloud and this rain, the cloud eradicating that nice bright start in the south—east. brighter skies behind and some showers coming in. tomorrow, a little milderfeeling than today. i don't get used to it, all change. the weather front continues to slip down thursday night into friday into the south—east. cold air follows night into friday into the south—east. cold airfollows behind. a north—westerly wind coming our way and then a lot of wintry showers in the north and west. thank you. hello it's wednesday, it's10am, i'm victoria derbyshire. women who work at tesco say they're paid up to £3 an hour less than male staff who work in the company's distribution centres — even though their work has the same value. the jobs are slightly different,

but, to put it bluntly, they're of equal value. you know, we deal with customers, they don't have to deal with customers, but we load... we take the stock and we load the stock. they load it off the lorry, and we load it onto the shelves. if you work at tesco and particularly if you have to deal with customers, what is that like and why do you argue that is equal worth to those in distribution centres ? worth to those in distribution centres? send me an e—mail. we'll hear from one of the lawyers representing around 100 of the women. and white working class men over 50, are they the most marginalised group of people in britain? we've been to redcar, which faces a bleak future after the steel works closed down two years ago. politicians don't live in the real world. they're in a bubble. i don't ca re world. they're in a bubble. i don't care who says, we understand, no, they don't, you know what i mean? they don't go home and night thinking can i put the heating on, what are the kids going to eat? we'll ask politicians why they seem to have forgotten

the working class town. a labourand a labour and conservative politician. and new rights have been announced for part—time and flexible workers who are self—employed. it means hundreds of thousands of workers will get holiday and sick pay for the first time. we'll be talking to a driver for the food delivery company. good morning. here's annita in the bbc newsroom with a summary of todays news. tesco is facing britain's largest ever equal pay law suit which could affect up to 200,000 mostly female shop workers. the women who work on the shop floor say they earn considerably less than men who work in the compa ny‘s distribution centres. lawyers estimate the supermarket could be liable for up to £4 billion in back pay if it loses. tesco says it's not yet seen the claims, but that it works hard to make sure employees are paid fairly. theresa may is to meet senior ministers later, to try to agree the government's approach for the next stage of the brexit negotiations. it comes after leaked documents show the european union wants to be able

to restrict the uk's access to the single market if there is a dispute after brexit. the power to suspend "certain benefits" would apply during the post—brexit transition phase. hundreds of thousands of part—time and flexible workers are to receive new rights, including holiday and sick pay, for the first time. the plans are part of the government's response to a review into the so—called gig economy, which recommended a number of changes to reflect modern working practices. the number of self—employed workers has risen in recent years, partly due to apps like uber and deliveroo. the high court will hear the start of a legal challenge this morning against the release of the serial sex attacker, john worboys. last month, the parole board was criticised when it announced that worboys would be freed after less than nine years in prison. he is thought to have drugged and attacked more than 100 women after picking them up in his taxi in london. the world's most powerful rocket, the falcon heavy, has successfully launched for the first time.

american billionaire elon musk, whose company spacex is behind the project, has called it a game changer for space travel. the $19 million space craft could one day transport people and supplies as far as mars, but on it's maiden voyage the cargo is elon musk‘s own tesla car, with a space—suited mannequin in the driver's seat. new dna analysis of britain's oldest complete skeleton has found he had much darker skin than previously thought and blue eyes. the man's10,000 year—old remains were unearthed at cheddar gorge more than a hundred years ago. now breakthroughs in dna sequencing have allowed scientists from the natural history museum to create this model of what he would have looked like just before he died. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30am. we have had so many messages about the interview with nicola mendelson. she works forface

the interview with nicola mendelson. she works for face and has been diagnosed with an incurable blood cancer and she is giving her only broadcast interview to us today. so many saying what an inspiration she has been by talk about this publicly, i will read some of those in the next 30 minutes. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. we have the latest sport. england lost the ashes... won the one day series... but before their work is done down under... they're facing australia and new zealand in a t20 tri series. their first match of the tournament is against the aussies in hobart and dawid malan has been impressive. at least he was. but, they've struggled to pick the slower deliveries. ashton agar took a couple of catches off his own bowling. malan himself was eventually out for 50 off 36 balls as england struggled to capitalise on a good start. thunderously struck one to of

‘i'se 57.7: in: ézxfi 3.7.7; 77.7 and § round replay last night. which represented a fifth win in ten games since he took charge at the liberty stadium. next up will be sheffield wednesday, who decided he wasn't good enough to get them out of the championship. in december of last year. i'm happy to be back home. i can't say it's a normal game, no, it will bea say it's a normal game, no, it will be a special game to me because i was there... not long time ago. but at the same time, it's the competition, it's the cup. of course, competition, it's the cup. of course , we competition, it's the cup. of course, we will try to do our best again. huddersfield will host manchester united in the fifth round after they beat birmingham after extra time. tom ince rounded off the 4—1win at st andrews. and rochdale reached the fifth

round for only the third time in their history. the league one strugglers upset championship side millwall1—0 thanks to a goalfrom ian henderson. they'll face the winner of the replay between tottenham or newport county which takes place tonight. something of a beach in rochdale. riyad mahrez is still not training with leicester... and could miss a third match in a row after he was refused a move to manchester city on transfer deadline day. the algerian hasn't been seen since handing in a transfer request a week go. hoping to force through a move to the premier league leaders who leicester play on saturday. manchester city's final bid of around £60 million was rejected by leicester. and jason and laura kenny will represent great britain for the first time since the olympics after being selected for the track cycling world champoinships in the netherlands. since rio they've got married, laura's had a baby, and jason has retired... briefly... before returning to competitive

cycling last month. that is it, headlines coming up later. thank you. a tweet from judith saying i have alsojust thank you. a tweet from judith saying i have also just been diagnosed with follicular lymphoma, thank you to nicola mendelson for highlighting this on your programme today. i felt so frightened and alone and in denial until today. this is from pan, thank you for the inspiring interview with the facebook vice president. i am blown away by patients speaking out to raise awareness for others. amy says, your programme is truly top—notch today, right now nicola mandelson on the sofa has made me think differently about cancer with her optimism. she has highlighted the positive aspects of social media. thank you. keep your messages coming in. tesco is facing britain's largest equal pay law suit which could affect up to 200,000 mostly female shop floor workers.

the women say they're paid less than men who work in the company's distribution centres — even though their work is of the same value. lawyers estimate tesco could be liable for up to £4 billion in back pay if it loses. let's hear from a couple of the women involved. i think that although we think we have equal rights, there are times where there are such discrepancies that you can't explain them. and i think tesco are just one of many companies that really aren't addressing the fact that women seem to still be paid less. obviously the jobs are slightly different, but to put it bluntly, they are of equal value. yeah. we deal with customers, they don't have to deal with customers but we load... we take the stock, they load it off the lorry and we loaded onto the shelves. and we load it onto the shelves. kiran daurka is a partner at leigh day solicitors, the firm acting for up to 1,000 tesco employees.

what is the argument? the argument is that the women, mostly store workers, mostly women, are doing jobs which are at least equivalent to the men in the distribution centres. how do you know? we have already been running the case for tens of thousands of women who work at asda and we've already won in two tribunal ‘s. to compare the women who work in the stores with the men who work in the stores with the men who work in distribution centres. the case is still at appeal but we believe the women can compare themselves to men in distribution centres. how did you go about trying to prove that? this is at the very start of the claim. in the asda case? in the asda case it was collecting documents, collecting the evidence from the women who tell us thejob evidence from the women who tell us the job that they do. and then it's a case of slowly building up a comparison of all the elements of

thejobs comparison of all the elements of the jobs that the women do and the elements of thejob the jobs that the women do and the elements of the job that the men do. experts prepare an analysis and it is for the tribunal to make a decision. and with tesco you are going about a similar process? exactly right. in any industry where there isjob gender exactly right. in any industry where there is job gender segregation, there is job gender segregation, there is job gender segregation, there is an implicit bias within the systems and the pay structures reflect in balance in pay. this is one example. retailers haven't got it right yet. in that we see men are attracted to distribution centre work and women to store work. because it's more physical work? presumably? that could be one reason. it's probably historical. yes, part of society's own bias play a part in it because women feel they would rather work in the stores but that doesn't mean that the job that they do is any less demanding. i think that's where the problem lies. people assume that the work that men are attracted to have some sort of more inherent value than the women's work. tesco deny any discrimination.

they say they are a good employer. and a number of people would agree with that. why do you say they've got it wrong in this case?” with that. why do you say they've got it wrong in this case? i do think any of our clients are saying they are a bad employer but they wa nt they are a bad employer but they want equality. —— i don't think any of our clients are saying they are a bad employer. we hope that tesco will have a good, hard look at the pay structure is currently in place. our clients are having a conversation. these types of cases will snowball because there are safety in numbers when you are bringing this type of claim. one woman speaking out and saying, come on, tesco, do something is probably not going to make a change but when you have tens of thousands of people saying there is a problem, they have to sit up and listen. is it your view that big employers, whether it's a private company like tesco or a public sector organisation like the bbc, could

never admit that that was an issue, because financially it could be so punitive? i'm not sure it is a case of whether they admit it or not. i feel they have ignored the problem, because they don't understand how they are necessarily going to deal with it. they haven't properly considered all of the relevant issues. i don't think it is good enough to say our profits or ourfunding think it is good enough to say our profits or our funding or whatever it is is going to suffer. what you are doing is underpaying those who are doing is underpaying those who are the lowest paid anyway. this text from somebody who doesn't wish to give their name, i've worked for a supermarket like tesco in the store and in the depot for 22 years. if you think it's the same, think again. i've done both. working in a depot is a lot more stressful and pressured. it's all about the pick—up in the depot and you have to

fill it and do it safely. if you dropa tin fill it and do it safely. if you drop a tin or a packet in a store, you're not likely to injure yourself. if you do that in a depot, yourself. if you do that in a depot, you are, you could end up killing someone. you are, you could end up killing someone. we're not saying the job is the same, we are saying that the demand is equivalent. we are saying that the women who work in the stores have a lot of pressures on them. they have to deal with customer complaints, they have to makejudgments customer complaints, they have to make judgments as to whether they can sell alcohol to people, knives to people. they have to show people where things are, there are lots of different elements. in the back of the store that we don't see, there are heavy the store that we don't see, there a re heavy pallets the store that we don't see, there are heavy pallets they are moving around and having to bring up to the store. gary says i work for tesco on the shop floor, let shop floor workers, men and women apply, and do heavy duty jobs workers, men and women apply, and do heavy dutyjobs like moving stock in warehouses, loading and unloading lorries. it is not the same sitting at the till or putting items on the shelves. you will say it is not the same, it is of equal value. yes. that's where the company disagrees.

we don't know if the company disagrees, we expect they probably will. we're waiting to hear from tesco and we're waiting to hear why they think they are different jobs. thank you. and of course, we will report back. let me bring you this news. james bulger‘s killerjon ve na bles news. james bulger‘s killerjon venables has pleaded guilty in the last minute or so of having indecent images of children for a second time. we will talk to our reporter outside the court about that in a moment. let's talk about redcar. one of the poorest parts of the country have seen a decline in full—time work over the last decade. this is despite the record numbers of people in work nationally. our reporter sean clare went to redcar and cleveland — the whitest part of the country — where there's been an 8% decline in full—time work, and where men have been particularly

hard since the loss of its steel plant two years ago. on the north—eastern edge of england, redcar and cleveland is a place built on heavy industry. two years ago, the steelworks closed its doors for the last time and with it went the jobs of 3000 people. it's also officially the whitest part of england, with very little immigration. and it's a place that hasn't shared in what the government describes as its "jobs miracle". while nationally, record numbers of people are in full—time work, here the number has fallen by more than 8% — with men suffering hardest. speak to people here and you hear about a lack of investment, frustration at westminster and those in positions of power, a feeling of being forgotten — and all in the shadow of those well—paid steeljobs going and no

chance of them coming back. frankie wales is in ex—steelworker and amateur boxer who now runs a local charity. when people say white working class, you know, you just think, "it's not a ghetto, that's because people haven't come here," and i'm not sure. why do you think people haven't come here? well, there's no work, is there? why would you? as well as the boxing gym, his charity runs dance, bingo and activity days for older people, made possible by volunteers, including men from the steelworks. we had, like, 15 years and i thought, well, that's me — 15 years, i'll be retiring, i'll be quite happy, you know what i mean? i could see my future there, could see my house paid for and everything. everything would be done. now that's gone, that's everything up in the air for me now. you've got a group of people now who are so marginalised, which are the over 50, predominantly white working class man, who will never ever work again. last ten seconds. let's have a big finish! and what about the next generation?

white british state school pupils are now the least likely group to go to university. in england, pupils from a chinese background are twice as likely as their white counterparts to go into higher education. meanwhile, native english speakers have, for the first time, fallen behind schoolchildren who speak english as a second language. there's nothing for the young lads to go to now, the apprenticeships. there's nothing getting offered to them. i see very little about. i've got a son of my own. he's leaving college, finished his a—levels. where he'll go... he won't be around here. hopefully, he might go in the forces or something like that but he'll definitely be away from here. government and council point to the success of the task force set up when the steel plant closed, with new businesses helped to get off the ground and jobs created. but, with full—time employment among men around here down 13% in the last decade, is that enough to make up for what's been lost in places like this? and you can see the full version of that film at bbc.co.uk/victoria. that is our programme page.

let's talk about some of the issues raised in that film and what should be done. simon clarke is the conservative mp for nearby middlesbrough south and east cleveland, chi onwurah is labour's business spokesperson and mp for newcastle central, and stephen clarke is a jobs expert from the resolution foundation which is a think tank that aims to improve the living standards of low and middle income families. i want to get all of your reaction first of all to this fact that full—time employment for men in redcar is down 13% in the last decade. well, that stat is one that goes to the heart of why we need to make a success... sure, what needs to be done... howdy reactor that? make a success... sure, what needs to be done... howdy reactor that7m shows precisely the challenges we face as an area, i represent half of redcar and cleveland as my constituency, of why we need to make a su ccess constituency, of why we need to make a success of government policy. are

you shocked? no, it is the reality of thousands of my constituents and precisely why we need to change course. howdy reactor that? it is shocking, shocking. it is the reality but it is still shocking there is such a reduction in employment and it is a direct consequence of employment and it is a direct consequence of a employment and it is a direct consequence of a lack of investment, abandonment, a tory government determined to fulfil posterity pledges rather than economic pledges for working—class people. pledges rather than economic pledges for working-class people. are you saying if labour was in government you would have rescued the steel industry? we set out a plan at the time to support the steel industry specifically, for example, measures against the dumping of chinese steel which the previous government blocked at the european level to blocked at the european level to block the energy intensive requirements of the industry. all of that was quite doable under european union regulations. eu says no was the tory government's excuse for not

being willing to support this critical and strategic industry, as well as the jobs... the eu says no was your excuse for not having an industrial strategy. it is the reason why our industrial strategy. it is the reason why our area industrial strategy. it is the reason why our area voted so decisively to leave the eu, eu law would have made it illegal. you could have supported their energy requirements, the reduction in the energy costs, that was entirely legal under eu law. measures against dumping of chinese law, that is something you could have supported. attracting investment into the region... there were many moods you could have done that the tory government could have done but chose to blame the eu. a task force set up after the plant closed said it created 1800 jobs, 99% of the men who lost their jobs created 1800 jobs, 99% of the men who lost theirjobs have since ended their benefit claims. that is a success , their benefit claims. that is a success, isn't it? it is certainly

fantastic that there have been... many of those have found jobs. it is also thanks to investment in training, which unfortunately is not available in other areas. those jobs are less well—paid. when you end benefits is not always because you have found a job, it might be for other reasons. the jobs that have been found less well—paid. as your statisticjust showed, they are less likely to be full—time. what the men and it's mainly men, of redcar required with high wage, high productivity, high skilled jobs. you clearly heard in that film, they don't think labour, the conservatives, ukip or anyone speaking up for them. that is what we have do change matters why we are developing an industrial strategy which is absolutely focused on high wage, high skill, high productivity jobs. what have you been doing since the plant close? they don't feel you are speaking for them, whatever party. can i come in, one of the

most ambitious regeneration projects in the country. £123 million, to create 20,000 jobs... you know as well as i do... it is two years. in the context of the closure of one of the context of the closure of one of the larger steel plants of the country and we have secured work for 99% of people lost theirjobs. we had a hugely ambitious plan, funded by one had been 23 million in the autumn budget to turn it around. the tone of that piece goes to the heart of the problem, namely that if labour continue to say, all is lost in the north—east, if the bbc to continue to run that with the title, former steel town facing bleak future, it cements the decline... you might not like the reality of what people said to us but it is the reality. what is your view about why there has been a 13% decline in full employment in this area?” there has been a 13% decline in full employment in this area? i think what it goes to the heart to is the

success what it goes to the heart to is the success of the british economy in some respects but also its weaknesses. full—time record employment that half of those full—time jobs have been created in london. lots of the country are missing out on this success and they are seeing decades of industrial change not being substituted by other work. they are deep—seated problems and have been around probably since the 80s. whether they can be addressed very quickly is probably quite difficult to imagine, i would guess. what would your solution be? we need to think about who these people are and what their needs are. active policies to help them, targeting the exact needs. people with disabilities perhaps have different needs to people who have different needs to people who have come out of work in the steelworks. they need employment programmes tailored to them and worked around them. it understanding if it isa worked around them. it understanding if it is a lack of educational health problems, that is important. it is not one size fits all. we have seen it is not one size fits all. we have seen promising improvements in the

la st seen promising improvements in the last decade, particular for single parents getting into work. we haven't seen the same success with men and people with disabilities. turning the focus to those new challenge groups of government to do. the local mp for redcar told me a symbolic story of how a local steelworker, made redundant from redcar was offered as his training opportunity into work and apprenticeship in sandwich making for a subway. entry level into the hospitality industry may be very appropriate for some people, but not for these, this area and these men who have had fantastic skilled jobs. what would be it a more appropriate apprenticeshipjob? a technician in the manyjobs that will be created... for example, we said in our manifesto we will create a local materials and metal catapulted bring innovation into the region. we need improved skills, we need improved

opportunities and we need improved investment. your government is not offering any of those. that anecdote, i agree that that is a com pletely anecdote, i agree that that is a completely inappropriate apprenticeship but it's not a reality of the kind ofjobs we are looking to create. the energy minister is up on thursday, talking about new jobs in minister is up on thursday, talking about newjobs in clean energy, massive opportunities around carbon ca ptu re massive opportunities around carbon capture and storage. major multinational investors looking to move in on this site. what people on teesside is tired of it is precisely that kind of negativity.” teesside is tired of it is precisely that kind of negativity. i was talking about the opportunities in the metals industry. you talk of turbans of the metals industry. you talk of turba ns of betrayal and the metals industry. you talk of turbans of betrayal and decline. people are bored of it, sick and tired of it. the reason i have been elected to represent one of the most deprived constituencies in our country if we are on the side of the optimist in this community. of

course, i grew up optimist in this community. of course, i grew up on optimist in this community. of course, i grew up on teesside, this is my home area, i have seen this decline in the last 30 years and am determined to reverse it. thank you all, thank you very much for coming in. we will bring you the latest news and sport at 10:30am. and the world's most powerful rocket launched for the first time. billionaire elon musk has called it a game changer for space travel. it could one day transport people and supplies as far as mars but on its maiden voyage the cargo is elon musk‘s tesla. here is a package. joining me is andrew coates, professor of physics and deputy director of the mullard space science laboratory at university college london. hello, professor. good morning. how exciting it is for you? exciting to

see a new rocket going into space at any time and this particular rocket is the most powerful rocket currently available, it was able to launch successfully and crucially to land some of the bits of it, the booster rockets on the side of it, back on earth successfully. almost like watching a ballet going on, seeing those two land at the same time. it is all about cheapening the access to space and this is something which is remarkable success. what could the rocket be used for? the rocket could be used for taking anything into the solar system. i think the main use of it is commercial use in space. it is reducing the cost of access to space for basically large satellites which could go to low earth orbit or medium earth orbit. of course, with a car on medium earth orbit. of course, with a caron top, medium earth orbit. of course, with a car on top, which will be orbiting beyond mars and out to the asteroid belt, it shows you could go further than that and take relatively large rovers or something like that to

mars. in terms of people in space, actually having, using the moon as a staging point, that would be the type of thing which would be good in the future. with mars we have to be a little careful, because we have some very a little careful, because we have some very interesting scientific exploration which we need to do. we are doing that with the mars rover in 2020, this will drill under the surface of mars to look for signs of life. so the last thing we want to do is take humans or indeed crash ca rs into do is take humans or indeed crash cars into the surface of mars, because that would contaminate mars. i think we have to be careful. it does show a new and interesting capability of launching into space. is this now about a new, commercial, private race to space?” is this now about a new, commercial, private race to space? i think mainly it is that. there are a number of companies building rockets which could potentially be used. we

have nasa, the european space agency, the chinese space agency, the russian space agency, the indian space agency, they can launch things interspace. they play very important roles. this adds to the humankind's arsenal to take things into space, to reduce the cost at the end of the day it is a commercial operation. a shift towards the commercial side, particularly in the us. they launched a rocket which could eventually take a rocket to the moon. this is an extra launcher, not man rated, it cannot take people but it is something which many will be used for commercial trips. thank you. still to come: an overhaul of the gig economy. holiday and sick pay promised for ——

sick pay promised for people like you. norway reckons 90% of its plastic bottles could be recycled using a deposit —based system. time for the latest news — here's annita. jon venables, one of two men convicted of killing james bulger, has pleaded guilty to having indecent images of children. the 35—year—old, who served eight years for the murder ofjames bulger in 1993, was recalled to prison last year. he appeared via videolink at the old bailey this morning and spoke only to confirm his name and to plead guilty to four charges, three of making indecent images of children and one of possessing a paedophile manual. tesco is facing britain's largest ever equal pay law suit which could affect up to 200,000 mostly female shop workers. the women who work on the shop floor say they earn considerably less than men who work in the compa ny‘s distribution centres. lawyers estimate the supermarket could be liable for up to £4 billion in back

pay if it loses. tesco says it's not yet seen the claims, but that it works hard to make sure employees are paid fairly. theresa may is to meet senior ministers later, to try to agree the government's approach for the next stage of the brexit negotiations. it comes after leaked documents show the european union wants to be able to restrict the uk's access to the single market if there is a dispute after brexit. the power to suspend "certain benefits" would apply during the post—brexit transition phase. hundreds of thousands of part—time and flexible workers are to receive new rights, including holiday and sick pay, for the first time. the plans are part of the government's response to a review into the so—called gig economy, which recommended a number of changes to reflect modern working practices. the number of self—employed workers has risen in recent years, partly due to apps like uber and deliveroo. that's a summary of the latest bbc news.

england have set australia 156 to win their first match of the t20 tri series. after a promising start england lost wickets regularly before chris jordan's six off the final ball helped them to to a score of 155—9. momentum as well because david willey has taken two wickets in the first over of australia's reply, they are 5—2. swansea thrashed notts county 8—1 to set up a fa cup fifth round tie against their new manager carlos carvalhal‘s former club sheffield wednesday. he was sacked by the championship team just before christmas. british sprinter nigel levine has been provisionally suspended for failing a drugs test. the european indoor relay gold medallist has not competed since he broke his pelvis in a motorbike crash last january. and jason and laura kenny will represent great britain for the first time since the olympics after being selected for the track cycling world champoinships in the netherlands. since rio they've got married,

laura's had a baby, and jason has retired... briefly... more in the next hour. thank you. the prime minister will meet senior ministers today and tomorrow to agree the government's approach to brexit. she's having a very tricky time of it. she's being pulled in many different directions. and this morning the body that represents 75,000 businesses in the uk, the british chambers of commerce, asked her for urgent clarity on how she's going to deliver brexit. here's norman. clarity is the thing that's missing. she's only been able to keep the show on the road because of the ambiguity? i'm tempted to say, that's politics. a profoundly divided party and a divided cabinet, how do you keep everyone together? indulge in a bit of verbal

gymnastics, habit of linguistic dexterity. to put it bluntly, ye olde the fudge. that is how everyone can rally behind a position. we've had a lot of that. mrs may has repeatedly saying she wants a bespoke deal or a deep and special relationship. that's fine and dandy and everyone can say i agree. but we are getting to the stage when we are actually going to have to spit out what it is that we want. we're now getting really close to the cusp of the negotiations. when we are going to have to start pencilling some detail. that is the two days of meeting going on today and designed to begin to nail down. you are right, there is incredible frustration so far at the lack of clarity. not just from frustration so far at the lack of clarity. notjust from the business community but on her own benches, have a listen to the former tory chancellor, kenneth clarke. i wished downing street spokesmen would shut up sometimes, because they put out completely meaningless statements. apparently it's going to be frictionless and we're quite happy

to have a customs arrangement, but we're not going in the customs union and we're not going in the single market. that is completely contradictory. it's like talking about the irish border, saying we're going to have a completely open border, but we're not going to have a customs union and we're not going to have regulatory conversions on both sides. one half of that contradicts the second half. if the british government does not start saying what we want, common other words, setting out our game plan, the danger is into that vacuum stepped the eu negotiators. they could say, if you will not say what you want, we will do how you what we think you should want. it gives them the whip hand and they start setting down the terms and then we have to respond to what they are prepared to offer, rather than seizing the initiative. thank you. let's talk now to anastassia beliakova from the british chambers of commerce — representing the organisation's

stance on trade policy and brexit for its members. and sam coates is the deputy political editor at the times. thank you for coming onto the programme. how is a lack of clarity on brexit harming business? businesses are trying to understand what exactly they should do. we know now there will be a transition period, that gives some short—term clarity. we know it will be on the same terms as we have now but looking further ahead, looking at investment decisions, where they need to go to get the products to sell on the market, where they should expand command that, we have absolutely no clarity. if government we re absolutely no clarity. if government were to outline their vision for what they want in a future relationship with the eu, that would really help to make those investment decisions. sam, is theresa may keeping her vision close to her chest because of the disagreements in her party or does she not yet have a vision? here we are, 19

months after the referendum and she hasn't made a speech saying what her vision is. her own advisers are coming up with visions but it's not clear whether she agrees with them. in the end, theresa may's vision can only be what she can get through her cabinet and through her party. she is almost a passive actor, letting it unfold around her. perhaps that is the smartest and shrewdest political way to go about this but it essentially creates a vacuum. as norman suggested, into that vacuum is being poured lots of ideas from the extremes of the conservative party. anna soubry on one wing, jacob rees—mogg on the other. and the european commission. what is painful for theresa may is that europe is starting to turn the screw. they are saying, look, we know what you are doing, we know you wa nt know what you are doing, we know you want to delay decisions and then fudge them and we will use every tool in our armoury not to let you do that. we will give you a six—week deadline. in the next six weeks, you have got to sort out what you want to do with northern ireland. and

what to do with the transition. if you can't do that in that period, you can't do that in that period, you might not get either. anastacia, sam talks about a six—week deadline, your businesses are talking about a two week deadline. time is running out is the final point on this. we know that the next eu council summit will be on the 22nd at 23rd of march. that means that when the guidelines for the next stage of the negotiations are adopted, what will be discussed by the end of these withdrawal arrangements, once that is decided, there is very little opportunity to change the discussion. if the government and the prime minister becomes more proactive in outlining her vision, this bodes well for the negotiations and it means that businesses are now waiting to understand what do in the next year and further ahead, they will be able to make decisions with a lot more. sam, do you think things will get any easier for theresa may? within her own party, let alone

anything else. once she has and once they have come to a decision about what brexit means. the problem is, for19 the problem is, for 19 months theresa may has tried to avoid coming down on either side of the debate. suggesting we should stay fairly aligned with the european union or that we should pull apart from the european union, instead preferring to dodge the question or kicked it into the long grass. it doesn't feel like we can put it off much longer. she will have to pick a side and at which point she will come in foran side and at which point she will come in for an awful lot of flak. you are seeing in the last couple of weeks, the newspaper stories, appearances in the commons, both wings of the conservative party shaking their tail feathers. showing a bit of muscle, showing just how many people are on their side of the argument, asa many people are on their side of the argument, as a way of threatening her to do what they want to see. you have a westminster hall debate right now where a whole load of pro—remain tory mps are setting out their

vision, saying look at us, like many people are here. jacob rees—mogg's gang, the european research unit, going to downing street, the chief whip's office, looking at their power. she will have to choose somebody will be disappointed. the question is, do tory mps ultimately put the future of brexit and the country ahead of the future of the party. at this point, could not tell you which way it is going to go. thank you. still to come: norway recycles an incredible 98% of all its plastic bottles — britain manages just 50%. so why can't we do the same here? the high court will hear the start of a legal challenge this morning against the release of the serial sex attacker, john worboys. last month, the parole board was criticised when it announced that worboys would be freed after less than ten years in prison. the action is being brought by two of his victims

and the london mayor, sadiq khan. one of those victims spoke to radio 4's today programme. she explains that soon after she got into his cab, she was offered a drink. i took the drink. i didn't particularly want it, to be honest, because i didn't really want to drink that much that night, because i had to get home to the baby. i did take the drink. it's one of those situations that you just think, "oh, i don't really want this". i took a sip out of it and it was a very strong orange liqueur and then we went over a speed bump and i spilt most of it over myself. i excused myself and i said, "i'm ever so sorry, i've spilt it," and he said, "no, that's ok" and he poured me another one. and then ijust thought, "i don't really want this", but ijust drank it because you're in that situation, just drink the drink, take me home. and then he pulled over... no, he asked me if i wanted a cigarette. and then he pulled over

and he said he was going to have a cigarette as well. and i remember him getting in the back of the cab with me. but that was it. i don't remember anything other than waking up in hospital the next morning. i know i was raped. i knew as soon as i woke up, i'd been raped. ididn't... i didn't really know where i was at the time and ijust woke up and i was very confused and disorientated. ijumped out of the bed and i remember pulling a tube out of my arm and going to the toilet and as soon as i went to the toilet i knew i'd been raped. meanwhile, the chair of the parole board, nick hardwick, has been giving evidence to thejustice committee. he explained how a parole board panel weighs up evidence and makes its decisions in cases similar to worboys'... and essentially, you're looking at, in terms of risk, you're be looking at two things. —— you'll be looking at two things.

you're looking at whether you think risk has been reduced and then you're looking at whether the residual risk can be managed in the community, if risk management plans are robust, and on that basis, you make a decision. but if you conclude, and the test, of course, is that you are causing concern in some quarters, that you're satisfied that it is no longer necessary for the protection of the publicb that the prisoner should be detained. the prisoner has to demonstrate that they are safe to release, not the system demonstrate that it's the other way round. if a prisoner demonstrate that, then we're statutorily obliged to release them. the chair of the parole board, giving evidence to thejustice select committee this morning. millions of workers in the so—called gig economy are to receive new rights, including the enforcement of holiday and sick pay. the plans are part of the government's response to a far—reaching review of modern business practices by matthew taylor, the chief executive of the royal society of arts. ministers say they'll also crack down on employers who make unpaid

interns do the jobs of workers, and will introduce a naming and shaming scheme for companies which fail to pay employment tribunal awards. let's talk to matthew taylor who headed the review, hannah reid joins us from the tuc. and sergio ramos, who is a deliveroo worker and a member of the iwgb union. welcome to all of you. first of all, sergio, your reaction? get sick pay and holidays, that's a great thing for anyone. i have children that help me to be with them... we expect the companies to look after us as well, notjust like, you're a contractor and then they can finish

contracts anywhere, at any time. you can have some hours to work this way, maybe next week is not. these things make me a little tense, when you have family, when you have a life to carry on. so it is good news? it is good news, yes. that we have holiday and this kind of security, that's good news. matthew taylor, you must be very pleased? i'm pleased that i have bad news for sergio, i don't think what the government has announced will give you a holiday and sick pay. the government is talking about enhancing and underlining holiday and sick pay for casual workers of a whole variety of kinds but there is theissue whole variety of kinds but there is the issue of people who are self—employed still. what the government is consulting on is the question of whether workers like yourself are classified as self—employed or workers. as long as you are classified self—employed, you are classified self—employed, you won't have many employment

rights. so there are two issues. one is the rights of casual workers on the other is whether or not people like sergio are seen as casual workers, which i think they probably should be, or self—employed, which is what the company would rather refer to you as as they pay less tax. exactly. that will come out of the consultation? the government is consulting today. it recognises the principle of the need to clarify employment status. at the moment companies like delivery and uber keep going back to court and saying, can we make the law clearer? as i am sure hannah will recognise, this is a complex issue and we need to get it right. whilst it is important that people like sergio have more rights, there are dangers when you reclassify employment rights that you encourage some employers to lower thresholds. hannah? the tuc recognises this as a baby step forward. there is welcomed announcement from the government today on better enforcement on

things like sick pay and holiday p5y~ things like sick pay and holiday pay. but we believe this is a missed opportunity it doesn't take a large step forward that working people need, such as sergio today. there is nothing in the government's proposals that will enter the hire and fire zero—hours contracts, or guarantee workers like sergio guaranteed hours, so he knows how much pay he will take home at the end of the week. there is nothing that will prevent sham self employment arrangements and our concern is also that there is nothing here that will help the 1.8 million working people who lose out on key protections in the workplace, family friendly rights, issues like redundancy pay. i think that is too gloomy picture. there were some important measures announced today, making clear what entitlement of holiday pay and bringing sick pay entitlement to those workers. making sure workers get a clear statement on day one of their rights, their terms and conditions, employment status. a lot of people who work in

that part of the economy don't know their rights and do not exercise. a requirement that large companies are more transparent about the way in which they use other companies in their supply chain, whose practices might not be so good. that there are other areas where the government is continuing to consult. i think it is important, i don't agree this is baby important, i don't agree this is ba by ste ps, important, i don't agree this is baby steps, i think it is a significant shift, particularly coming from a conservative government, there are areas where we need to maintain the momentum. matthew is right, transparency in the workplace is important. people need information about what their pay and conditions and the government has made some announcements in this area. we welcome the fact they will consult on ending the undercut its charter, as the caller, a loophole in the law at the moment which means agency workers can get paid far less per hour for doing exactly the same job asa hour for doing exactly the same job as a permanent member of staff sitting alongside them. it is welcomed that they listen to matthew's recommendation and union campaigns. the overall package the

government has announced today will not really change the balance of power in the workplace. we believe we need a new balance of power for a modern workplace, to make sure that flexibility cuts both ways. workers shouldn't have to bear all the risk in the workplace and employees get all the benefits. we are asking the government to think again and be a bit more ambitious. i can tell you, there is basically two kinds of people who work for these companies. the people that work full—time, like me. if! the people that work full—time, like me. if i work full—time for one company, i'm not any more self—employed. i can be a contract, but i workjust for them. do they classify you are self—employed?” cannot classify myself, i go with what they say. i think they will still say you are self—employed which means you won't get these rights. that's why i think we need to clarify... exactly. and then if you don't accept, to get the job. this is not good. other people, they

have jobs in the daytime and they say, i'm going to make extra money. these guys are going... i love to go when i want, at the busy time and i can get money. these people, they have a job in the daytime and then they do this as a extra job.” have a job in the daytime and then they do this as a extra job. i think sergio is right. when hannah talks about1.8 sergio is right. when hannah talks about 1.8 million workers, a lot of people working in those ways choose to and think that works for them. it doesn't mean we shouldn't try to enhance their rights but it works for some people and doesn't work for others. the law has to be better.” will pause it there. thank you very much. thank you for coming in. let's bring you more on the news that one of the killers of the toddlerjames bulger, jon venables, pleaded guilty this morning to four charges relating to indecent images of children. richard galpinjoins us from the old bailey. what has been heard in court this morning that, as

your thing, he pleaded guilty to four counts, of them counts of making indecent pictures of children. more than 1000 pictures in total. some of those being videos. he has also pleaded guilty to a fourth count, possession of a paedophile manual, which was found on his laptop. this manual giving advice on abusing children sexually. the court this morning has also heard how ve na bles this morning has also heard how venables had pleaded guilty to events similar to this back in 2010, for which he received a prison sentence and was released in 2013 and the case is continuing as i speak. richard galpin reporting. more on bbc news throughout the day, of course. next, we are going to norway. 98 centre bottles are recycled there, plastic bottles, and their scheme looks likely to be adopted here. figures suggest only

half of lustig bottles get recycled in britain. i am joined now from oslo by kjell olav maldum. he runs a norwegian company called infinitum, which runs the norway bottle scheme. and here in the studio is samantha harding from the campaign to protect rural england. how have you done it? good morning. iam fine how have you done it? good morning. i am fine thank you. good morning. tell us how you have done it. we have a process system in norway. it has been in force for 20 years now. all be consumers in norway are used to this system and they also like to adopt the system and therefore we get a high collection and recycling rate. samantha, what do you think of this system? i think it's a great system. we've already seen the scottish government has looked into it and decided it wants to go ahead

with a full system for every canon and bottle in scotland and we can only hope that the uk government and the welsh assembly will go ahead as well. are there any downsides from your point of view? it depends what your point of view? it depends what your objectives. the government is looking at this from the perspective of increasing recycling, notjust the amount collected by the quality of it. that is what you get from the deposit system, because the way things are collected, you get a high quality from it and it can also go a long way to reducing drinks contain a litter. we know from seeing aluminium cans, plastic bottles in our countryside, streets, we need to stop that happening. kjell, can you see any reason why this scheme couldn't be rolled out across britain, across the rest of europe? honestly, i can't. there is no reason why you shouldn't adopt the deposit system. it is the most effective way to collect. as sam

mentioned, you have a high quality of materials, so you can recycle it again and again. there is no reason at all not to adopt a system like that. did you have to spend time and money educating consumers? that. did you have to spend time and money educating consumers7m that. did you have to spend time and money educating consumers? if you go backin money educating consumers? if you go back in time, you used to deliver their beer bottles or milk bottles as well, and you have a deposit and you have a value on empties. it is easy. people will adapt rather quickly. i think you also can see if you go to germany, another country that has set up the deposit system, you will see the people learn quickly and they understand. you should adopt it. we should adopt it. samantha, do you think consumers would need a lot of convincing to start using a scheme like this or not? i think since we've had the carrier bag charge, we have seen how

well people have adopted to this economic incentive. we know from re ce nt economic incentive. we know from recent polling by 38 degrees and surfers against sewage over a quarter of a million people signed a petition saying, we think this is great. our polling has shown huge levels of support, around 78—79%. we did have a deposit system in the 60s and 70s, which i remember, so i don't think there is anything unfamiliar there and don't think there is anything unfamiliarthere andl don't think there is anything unfamiliar there and i think people was adapt very quickly. thank you very much to both of you. kjell, thank you for talking to a british audience, we appreciate it. thank you, good luck. thank you for your company today. we back at nine o'clock tomorrow. bbc news i've is coming up next. have a good day. good morning, a cold start of the

day, a widespread frost this morning. but beautiful start to the day. look at that sunshine in kent. if you wintry showers towards the south—east of england, missing that particular location. a few showers towards wales on the south—west of england but for most of england and wales, that sunshine. it will continue into the afternoon. further north and west, some cloud, some rain, some hill snow over scotland and temperatures today getting up to about 4—8. in the sunshine, it will feel quite pleasant. through this evening and night, the cloud moves a little further south and east. look at the green on the map, towards central and eastern areas. those clear skies mean it will be a cold and frosty start into tuesday, thursday morning, sorry. further north and west, is a more cloud, not

quite as cold. outbreaks of rain likely on thursday. by friday, it should be drier and brighter but turning just a little colder. bye— bye. this is bbc news and these are the top stories developing at 11: the serial sex attackerjohn worboys is expected to appear at the high court to hear a legal challenge against his release. tesco is facing britain's largest ever equal pay claim as thousands of female shop workers say they're paid less than men working in warehouses. the prime minister will chair the first of two key brexit meetings with her senior ministers. the world's most powerful rocket, funded by the american

billionaire elon musk, successfully launches in florida. also, meet cheddar man. he lived 10,000 years ago and is sometimes described as the first modern briton. scientists conclude that he had dark to black skin after carrying out dna analysis. and could a deposit system boost the recycling rate