cooperation continues after britain leaves. addressing the munich security conference, she warned that if the eu's aim in the brexit talks was to avoid cooperation then the security of all would be damaged. if the eu's aim is to avoid cooperation, thomas kielinger, is the eu's aim to avoid co—operation and if so, why? i have long given up to try to figure out what goes on in the mind of our leaders and this phrase is totally puzzling. she seems to hold hostage the british security involvement in europe to the outcome of the brexit talks, and she is in no way to speak that language. she must work for flexibility, cooperation and so on. any intimation of trying to demand something else is totally misplaced. she is on a sticky wicket, as we know, and there is no consensus. we are still waiting, as was said yesterday, for what the british

people really want, the british government rather. she is not frustrated but curious. —— as angela merkel said. wells should be on the huge of riding issue... we would like a mutually agreeable agreement on the brexit conditions, until that is sorted out there is no way for theresa may to threaten british cooperation with europe. besides, the whole speech about security is beside the point. so it is a distraction? absolutely a distraction. and cart before the horse. very much so. the defence and military issues are her first car because britain is deeply involved in the defence of europe and that is uncontroversial. —— that is her first card to play. when she is talking about issues at the moment do not believe our mind of what needs to be done. let's open it out. polly toynbee, the message that uk is a contributor

to defend in europe and has expertise uncovered on counterterror. even extreme brexiters want security and interpol relationship with the rest of europe. no doubt about that. but even there she threw a spanner into the works to think, ideological league... they are so pragmatic compared with us, the whole brexit conundrum is about british ideology. to accuse particularly in the context of security angela merkel and the europeans of this is an absurdity and it bodes ill. to be fairto absurdity and it bodes ill. to be fair to her, she only said if ideological... she did not say they we re ideological... she did not say they were ideological. the question is, as g in this speech said, which you may have done, that she is willing to accept —— has she

said this is that she is willing to accept the european court ofjustice as an arbitrator on a treaty over security? across as one of her red lines if she does not accept that, it will not happen then. she must accept with any treaty on any issue whatever that there is always an international adjudicator on any trade deal wherever in the world. in europe it happens to be the ec]. she must swallow this. and brian o'connell, as another european looking in on this, do you think the european arrest warrant and euro poll and all that can be taken for granted, low hanging fruit? we should be able to take it for granted and people's security is paramount above trade and everything else, but the tone of the remarks probably betrays the level to which this relationship between britain and the eu counterparts in this negotiation have reached, they are really poor relationships. you must

have an independent arbitrator and it will probably be the ec] anything crosses one of her red lines i think she will have to suck it up in the end because she will have no choice. you cannot go into brexit without some form of deal on extradition and basic things like that, and cyber stuff and intelligence agencies will talk to each other anyway whether or not there is a deal. i think the tone is very illustrative of where things are at the moment. obviously, your specialism is a different continent, a complex patchwork security, economics, politics, as an outsider looking at this? i live in a european country today though i am an outsider, so it bala nces though i am an outsider, so it balances me what happens. i would not be surprised and we will hear a lot of this. what is happening is mind games. i pity theresa may

because she is like a tool that is being used by both sides. one day she says the bin to appease the remainders and another date to appease the brexiters. not much to appease the remainders, mostly people who voted brexit are appeased. tim tams that is the problem... the lack of compromise. —— sometimes thatis lack of compromise. —— sometimes that is the problem. for the country getting out of europe, they need to be friendly and welcoming to europe afterwards. if one of these days she canjust over afterwards. if one of these days she can just over say things that can end up giving britain a bad deal. thomas kielinger, another thing we saw in the last week was boris johnson the foreign secretary beginning that series of speeches we now expect from british government ministers. did that go some way to healing any of this? lam afraid healing any of this? i am afraid not. there healing any of this? lam afraid not. there is healing any of this? i am afraid not. there is a basic and religion in his speech where he

says, friendly, understanding people who voted remain have legitimate concerns about the place in europe. before he came to that phrase he said it would be a betrayal if we reversed the brexit decision and there is no way we go anywhere else. he was quite adamant that not to give a single inch. his offer to be nice to the people who voted remain sounded false. basically brexiteers are still in denial of the real problems they face. everyone is now using a bit of words that eventually will not prevail anyway, so we are ina moment will not prevail anyway, so we are in a moment when as journalists we have a hard time taking any of this seriously. a lot of what she said in munich is probably for home consumption, anyway. the outcome will be a bunch what ever happens. borisjohnson had the political opportunity of his lifetime if they wanted to show he was leadership that are real. he started off by saying, i want to reach out and i understand the grief and pain of the 48%. nearly half the country... can

only give them nothing. hard brexit all the way to come out of the single market and customs union, absolutely no ecj and not a mention of... no detail on anything. we will come back to ireland any moment but first an entirely different continent to look at the issues of south africa over the week. after what seemed like days of prevarication, jacob zuma resigned as south africa's president, saying he still didn't understand what he'd done wrong. cyril ramaphosa now takes over a country with huge problems to solve. vincent, you watch these events closely. can mr ramaphosa put the country back on track? is he the man to do with the enormous challenges south africa faces ? he is but he also may not be. explained. there are two things here. of course, for the question itself, i think you need to see it in two ways. in one way, what is it for

south africa? the other, what are the implications for africa ? the implications for africa? in south africa, ramaphosa could succeed but he is somebody who came from the workers' background and a millionaire, who worked with western business capitalists and succeeded. now, he needs to radically reshape his own attitudes towards what development and economic growth is ina development and economic growth is in a country like south africa. does he have a plan? he has a country and an economy, according to capitalist ideas, but he does not at the moment have a plan to share that wealth for the 90% or so of people in south africa. if he does not, south africa is just not going to work. the other side, for me, i think another side is more important. south africa is democracy. to sort out those problems is the obligations for

africa... look, icome problems is the obligations for africa... look, i come from uganda andi africa... look, i come from uganda and i belong to a pro—democracy group called free uganda and we are struggling in my country. the leader was in powerfor 35 years, changing positions to be a life president. if uganda and sudan and rwanda and zaire and so many of these african countries... trump used a very horrible word beginning with less to describe them. if we can learn from south africa about how democracy can help us resolve our problems, it will be... —— trump used a word beginning with s. to step away so we can build our country... that example of south africa must succeed in order to provide something for the rest of the continent. it needs to succeed and it does not succeed, we as ugandans and africans from other countries, we are watching carefully and we are telling people like the president

that look, next is you and if we don't have a dramatic graphic —— democratic process in which we can change things, and we are going back to the civil war of the battles of the past. i don't know what you have made about south africa over the past week. we now have the anc damaged, legitimacy in question by going for a two elections in two years' time. i saw the tv pictures of parliament yesterday when he made his speech, his state of the union address, and there was a feeling of such support. i thought that was incredible, because i did not think that when this final week or two began that he was going to be able to shift jacob zuma. ramaphosa, one thing is that he is a negotiator and he was influential in getting this...

you know that game where you have a pile of sticks and must pull one out without the rest collapsing, it was like that. and it is an amazing feat to get to where he did, without a drop of blood being spilled so far. but he needs to now be a mediator between, not between the political classes and political leaders but between the political classes, the elites and the people. if he can resolve that. there is so much hope invested in him. if you think that most of the world will first have seen cyril ramaphosa when he held the microphone for nelson mandela as he came out and made his first speeches as he came out ofjail. that is a moment that anybody who was alive at the time remembers. he is now they're as the man carrying the beacon for mandela and his ideology. it is whether he can rekindle that. i must say it that... remember the

mothers of the miners, he was one of the directors of the company there. he took the side of the employers. he took the side of the employers. he did apologise for that later. he did apologise for that later. he apologised but he is a political leader and should have known better. now he is president of south africa, will he be on the side of the workers and miners or will he be on the side of business? thomas. this reminds me of when he held the microphone for mandela, as polly said. the future of south africa rests as much as what happens with the anc that they can resuscitate their reputation and what happens to south africa it self. the two are essentially linked and we must see whether there is a possibility of the emergence of a new opposition party. power corrupts and absolute power corru pts power corrupts and absolute power corrupts and you need a significant opposition to make democracy. you do and the anc will try its best to clean up the aegean stables, as

it were, but we need a second political force in the country and it is difficult in south africa's case because so much rests on the mythological charisma of anc and it is hard to replace that. if the anc messes up this one, within ten years we will get a shift of power. it may not be strong enough to take power. but the voters could opportunistically combined our forces to fight the anc and they would be in a different position then. well that happen? it would strategically make sense. depends what ramaphosa does. if he develops south africa the way he does business to succeed economically but then radically share that wealth with the rest of the country, south africa will be better than britain. with the economy going, and it is shocking that the growth rate is only i%, of a country that was seen as one of the great powerhouses... it is upon him to get the economy

back. you say, unless he does that, there isa you say, unless he does that, there is a division between whether he helps workers or capitalism. he must do both and kick—start capitalism to generate wealth and redistribute as well. in the state of the union message yesterday, it was about accountability. if he is as good as his words, he will be accountable to the people, to the international watchers and to political elites in this country. it is important, accountability is everything in a democracy and we will see appears as good as his word. we shall leave south africa now but ta ke we shall leave south africa now but take that word accountability into our next story. northern ireland has been without its devolved government for 13 months now. does this matter? talks between the two largest parties, the democratic unionist party and sinn fein, to restore the status quo have broken down, and westminster is reluctant to bring back direct rule. so, what happens next? brian, how serious is this political mess, and how much does it impact on mrs may's government, who rely on the support of the dup?

i think it is very serious and i think it is more serious than the press attention it has received in british media anyway. it could not have happened at a worse time, given what we were talking about earlier coming down the pipeline as regards to brexit. but where do they go from here in the next... first tell us what happened. what was the problem? they got so close... they did get close. what the talks fell to pieces over was an irish language act, which sinn fein had been asking for three years, and it goes way back ——. years and years. it goes way back to an agreement and it is not about who speaks irish but about recognition of the irish language and the same level as english in northern ireland. when you think about some of the

enormous challenges that these two parties have overcome in the last 20 yea rs parties have overcome in the last 20 years to get to where we are today, it is astonishing in a way to those who don't follow a daily to think that we could fall down over an issue of language. it is not bought my people have been comparing it to, well, they have a language act in scotland and one in wales but northern ireland is different. it goes back to the good friday agreement in 1998 when they talk about parity of esteem, and one of the things about that is the recognition of the irish language and scots gaelic, the problem is that there was a deal on the table between the dup and sinn fein and ultimately arlene foster the dup leader could not sell it to the grassroots because they were afraid of things like road signs in two languages and quarters for civil serva nts languages and quarters for civil servants seeking irish... which michelle o'neill, her counterpart in sinn fein and the other side of the

table, said, well, the draft agreement does not even have that in it. it isa it. it is a question of trust and misunderstanding. but will they get their? they will come back to this and they will have to come back to this because they cannot move forward, sinn fein will not allow power—sharing to move forward until this... it isa this... it is a problem of personalities in a way? because you look at these leaders... i think not, the problem leaders... ithink not, the problem is leaders... i think not, the problem is that it is not clear it is in either of their interests to actually run the place. ina their interests to actually run the place. in a time of extreme austerity, why do they want to be responsible for schools and hospitals and all the everyday drudgery which aid is to run a devolved government under westminster, where westminster has screws to such extent you get nothing but blame? there is not really an incentive to either of them to them to want to govern? who is to blame for the breakdown of negotiations? whose fault is it? is

it the dup's negotiations? whose fault is it? is it the dup‘s fuld or sinn fein's? you could say it is the dup's fault because it raises questions about arlene foster's inability to lead her party. you can also say sinn fein should not maybe make such a thing of it and everything else, but it is important that the irish language act be important... but he was the thing, to go back to what you say, the dup one direct rule because they can then tell the tory government at westminster what to do because they have direct rule. sinn feinl because they have direct rule. sinn fein i think c in brexit the best chance they have had in a generation to push the united ireland agenda. so there are much bigger forces to push the united ireland agenda. so there are much biggerforces in play than the question of the irish language act. also a big issue of ireland because ireland and brexit. .. also a big issue of ireland because ireland and brexit... if the irish do not get what they need to get, from these things in northern ireland, they can just... ijust want ireland, they can just... i just want to pick up with the

point from polly, because you said... maybe neither side wants to be ruling right now in this devolved assembly. but where does that leave the british government? karen bradley, the northern ireland secretary, says she considered options this weekend and what are her options? options are she will have to take control and there is other option. they must do what the dup says because the dup is propping up the main government. we must remember about the dup that two thirds of its members are these extreme free presbyterians, the paisley founded cult, and... cult is a bit strong language. i tend to refer to religions in general as cults. it is the largest party in northern ireland. it is the largest party that only 0.6% of people in northern ireland are actually free presbyterians, so they do represent something very extreme. in the same sense that sinn fein does not really represent

nationalist views either. we have ended up with the two most extreme parties who do not represent in all polls what people actually feel and where they stand. it is a misrepresentation of the real state of being in northern ireland. interesting, and what is interesting, vincent, in the african angle, is that cyril ramaphosa and we we re angle, is that cyril ramaphosa and we were talking about a month ago first played a role in bringing sides together and inspecting ira arms dumps. so is there a role for outsiders at this point? no, i don't think he will have any opportunity. i'm not looking at him because he is busy, but is a role for any outsider in the irish question? i'm sure the european union, but in terms of britain and on... i think the role of ireland will be something that matters a lot. as an african, i will say something more antagonistic. and this is a fact. in africa, since independence, and before independence, the whole idea

of our survival has been fighting for independence. and whether we had this peace process in northern ireland, which somehow brought people mechanically together to be run together still within the united kingdom, many africans always have, whenever we talk about northern ireland, they ask me, but why doesn't writtenjust ireland, they ask me, but why doesn't written just leave northern ireland to go back to ireland and become an independent country as well? an answer to why not? because thatis well? an answer to why not? because that is a question of history... that history is what rules... the rule is democracy in that if they voted to join the rest of ireland we would be out in a flash. it isa ireland we would be out in a flash. it is a majority in northern ireland by consent. but their condition and defined by history. it is not defined by history. i'm not quite sure the south of ireland would be happy with that idea of being stuck with the dup. we

have been there and i'm glad we have won there but now that is not a viewpoint which will solve the current situation, i guess, not a viewpoint which is one of those of the current players. alas i am much mistaken. it is very much a viewpoint held by sinn fein. they are saying, we stopped the fight but we have not stopped the fight but we have not stopped our struggle for independence. one of the most important part of the good friday agreement was the south of ireland gave up in its constitution its demand an expectation that the north should join with the south. that was a very important making of the peace that both sides understood. around this table, we will all agree that it around this table, we will all agree thatitis around this table, we will all agree that it is a democratic process. it is and it has kept a piece, but we must remind people we must only think about future. but going back to the paralysis of the democratic process now, thomas? i think if you hand back direct rule

to westminster, that is the end of devolution. what is devolution about? it is about self—government and if the parties concerned are to be in northern ireland unable to do that, what is the future of devolution in northern ireland? i think the british government will be very reluctant to go back to direct rule, and they would come under huge pressure from the irish government, massive pressure from the irish government. at the moment, relations between the british and irish governments are affixed on the whole issue of the border and the revelatory alignment and all that kind of thing and the customs union. and i don't think they will want to put direct rule in on top of all of that. there are enough, but what is the end of it? no direct rule... they will go back to... they will leave it for some weeks and come back to the talks again and see if they can get some kind of agreement and go back to that... what about the border? it has made it worse and hasn't

helped but exacerbated up my the whole thing hanging over the break—up of these doctors the issue of the border. that is coming down the pipe so fast that one wonders whether they can get agreement before the brexit thing happens. at the moment the irish government is absolutely adamant that the deal they came to la st adamant that the deal they came to last december about regulatory alignment, you know, if britain wants to leave the customs union and wants to leave the customs union and wants to leave the customs union and wants to leave the eu they will still have to have some form of keeping the border open and they are adamant about that. that is the number—1 priority for dublin. that takes us back to the beginning, which is actually where must end. that's all we have time for this week. do join us again next week same time same place. but for now, thank you for watching and goodbye. it was a cold, frosty

start towards the south and east of england. we had a little bit more cloud around there. many of us will see a fine day today. some sunny spells into the afternoon. by tomorrow, more cloud, and in between, milder with some rain in the west. quite a bit of cloud around through the overnight period into the early morning. clearer skies moving in for the northwest. in the middle of the country, we have a weak weather front bringing some cloud and a band of patchy rain moving south eastwards. not a lot of rain in that system into the afternoon, just a band of cloud through the midlands and into southern england. one or two showers towards the west of scotland, perhaps the odd shower for northern ireland and north—west england. temperatures between 8—11 celsius.

reasonably mild towards the south. some of those showers falling as snow, over the hills. this evening and tonight, that band of cloud drifts away from the south—east, clear skies for central and eastern parts, clouding over from the west, so remaining frost—free for western parts, and to the east, subzero temperatures for sunday morning. with some mist and fog around, too. through sunday, we have high pressure holding on across the near continent, but this warm front working in from the atlantic. it is introducing milder air. the wind coming from the west or the south—west as we head through the day on sunday. it will be a cold start in the east with some frost and fog, but becoming milder from the west as cloud builds with rain affecting northern ireland, the west of scotland, western england and wales. temperatures in double figures in the south and west, cooler in the north—east. on monday, we still have the remnants of that front from sunday but this time it is producing rain

for central and eastern parts. temperatures between seven and 11 celsius. then things start to change through next week. that mild air clears the south. the blue colour is returning to the map. colder air moving in from scandinavia with that easterly wind developing. although it is set to be a mild start to next week, things are going to turn and feel much more wintry later in the week. bye—bye for now. you're watching bbc news. theresa may has urged european union leaders not to put lives at risk by blocking a security deal after brexit. we will not let that happen. we will keep our people safe now and

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