tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News March 15, 2018 9:00am-11:00am GMT
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hello, it's 9 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. our top story today... president trump comes out in support of the uk's decision to expel 23 russian diplomats from britain after the nerve agent attack in salisbury. the united states stands in absolute solidarity with great britain. the united states believes that russia is responsible for the attack on two people in the united kingdom, using a military grade nerve agent. we will get reaction. also coming up on the programme... sherry denness was 17 when she attempted to take her own life nine times in ten days at the end of last year before she got the help she needed. her dad's video seeking support for her went viral. sherry denness and her mum and dad wll be here shortly.
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and working repeated shifts, but for free, with no offer of a job at the end of it. there are calls to ban the practice of unpaid trial shifts and it will be debated in parliament. did your unpaid shifts lead to a job, or not? let us know. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. later, we'll be talking about beer yoga — where you can enjoy sipping a nice, cold lager while doing the downward dog. can you believe that? that is after 10am. also, we definitely want to hear your own experiences of children with mental health problems and how difficult, or otherwise, it was to get the right help. we've got a searing example of how it didn't work early
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enough for one teenager. we'll be talking to her at 9.15am. our top story today... the white house has given its backing to britain's decision to expel russian diplomats in retaliation for the nerve agent attack on sergei skripal and his daughter. the us said it was a just response and america stood in solidarity with its closest ally. and in a hardening of president trump's tone on russia, his spokeswoman accused it of undermining the security of countries worldwide. 23 staff at the russian embassy in london have been given a week to leave the uk. however, the kremlin continues to deny any involvement in the attempted murder. keith doyle reports. late—night comings and goings at the russian embassy in london — 23 diplomats considered to be undeclared spies will be making preparations to leave britain after the decision yesterday to expel them. while russia remains defiant that it was not involved in the nerve agent attack, other major world powers are backing britain.
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now one member stands accused of using chemical weapons on the sovereign soil of another member. the credibility of this council will not survive if we fail to hold russia accountable. "russia was to blame," the prime minister told mps, and that's why action is being taken. so, mr speaker, there is no alternative conclusion other than that the russian state was culpable for the attempted murder of mr skripal and his daughter. this represents an unlawful use of force by the russian state against the united kingdom. the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, said the response should be based on clear evidence. russia insists it was not involved and it will retaliate. prime minister may is destroying international law and is destroying the international relationship. last night, britain asked the international chemical weapons watchdog to verify moscow is behind the attack in salisbury. there is now a fully—blown diplomatic row,
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a row that looks likely to escalate with expected tit—for—tat actions. and as this goes on, sergei skripal and his daughter remain critically ill in hospital. keith doyle, bbc news. our correspondent richard galpin is in moscow. norman smith is in westminster. richard, what reaction in russia to what president trump has said? there has been another briefing by the foreign ministry spokeswoman in which she has said that the idea that russia is behind the poisoning is insane and she is saying the truth behind the skripal poisoning is being hidden by the british authorities and she is of course saying they are working on retaliatory measures, we do not know when they will be implemented, but certainly they are working on them, and the widespread assumption is they will be tit—for—tat, 23 spies, russian spies, are going to be
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expeued russian spies, are going to be expelled from london and the expectation is british diplomats in moscow and those deemed to be spies are likely to be expelled. and possibly further measures mirroring what the british government has announced. it is interesting the development of the international community, western powers, rallying behind theresa may and britain. we have seen the un, a lot of state m e nts have seen the un, a lot of statements expressing solidarity, including from nato, and the key question for the russian government is whether those countries will do something concrete. for example, whether they would themselves will impose more sanctions. that would be very troubling for the kremlin. norman at westminster, 19 labour mps have signed a commons motion supporting the decision of the prime minister to expelled the diplomats, spies. why are they doing that? because of widespread anger among labour mps at
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because of widespread anger among labourmps at mr because of widespread anger among labour mps at mr corbyn‘s response to the salisbury attack, in the commons yesterday, he appeared to question and challenge the evidence pointing towards russia. it was not just that many labour mps thought he got the tone wrong, he also attacked the government for cuts to the police and the national health service, taking russian money. there was not just service, taking russian money. there was notjust they service, taking russian money. there was not just they thought that was an inappropriate line to take, it is because they felt he failed to live up because they felt he failed to live up to the moment, that at a time when people are being attacked, in britain, that, they felt, was a moment when he needed to stand up as a national leader and show he was ready to stand up to foreign aggression. more than that, a view among some labour figures aggression. more than that, a view among some labourfigures he is betraying the history of the labour party which has, they say, always been very patriotic, going back to the likes of clement attlee, and
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there are clear signs of tension even right at the very top of the party with senior figures like the shadow defence secretary and the shadow defence secretary and the shadow foreign secretary, emily thornberry, both uneasy with the sta nce thornberry, both uneasy with the stance mr corbyn has taken. more reaction to come of course through the morning. annita mcveigh is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. the labratory where scientists helped identify the nerve agent used in salisbury is to get more funding from the government as part of a defence modernisation programme. an extra £48 million for a new chemical weapons defence centre at porton down, will be announced by gavin williamson in his first major speech as defence secretary later today. the brexit secretary, david davis, has said he's prepared to accept the eu's offer of a shortened transition period, after the uk leaves the european union in march, 2019. he said he would agree to a call for the transition to end in december, 2020, if that helped to secure a deal at
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next week's eu summit. ministers are being called on to introduce a faster phase—out of petrol and diesel cars, currently set for 2040. the mps have also demanded a new clean air act, and they say the motor industry should finance a clean air fund. the government says it'll publish its own proposals on air pollution later in the year. here's our environment analyst, roger harrabin. the air in many of britain's cities is officially unfit to breathe. and the mps are angry that, despite a series of court cases, the government hasn't cleaned it up. the young are particularly at risk, and the mps' report has drawn support from un children's organisation, unicef, which says that britain's children deserve to breathe clean air. the government aims to end the sales of diesel and petrol only vehicles by 20110, but the mps say that is inadequate. india will do it ten years earlier. they say government must work with local councils to stop pollution—related deaths. this really needs to be stamped out. we need to improve it.
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and that's why the whole report talked about bringing government, local authorities together, so we can work across, notjust here in london, but across the whole country. the government says it's looking beyond cars to smokeless fuel and wood stoves in its strategy, due later in the year. roger harrabin, bbc news. the world health organization is to carry out a review of the potential impact of plastic on human health. it follows the release of a new study by us researchers — the largest of its kind — which discovered plastic particles in popular brands of bottled water. scientists say that there is no evidence yet to suggest it is a cause for concern. in the past three years, parents across england and wales have been fined about £24 million forfailing to send their children to school. a bbc investigation also shows some councils are issuing penalties at rates five times higher than the average. some parents say they now actively budget for the cost of fines
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when planning holidays. while some councils admit they have become stricter, they say they are protecting the education of children. the use of food and medical supplies as a weapon of war by the syrian regime has been branded as utterly abhorrent by the foreign secretary, borisjohnson, and international development secretary penny mordaunt. in a joint statement to mark the seven years of conflict which has gripped the country, they are branding the war as one of the longest and bloodiest in recent history. a 20—year—old woman has been jailed for six months in the american state of minnesota for fatally shooting her boyfriend in a botched youtube video they hoped would go viral. pedro ruiz convinced monalisa perez to shoot him at close range with a powerful pistol, believing that a thick book he held in front of his chest would shield him. he died at the scene. some mps and lawyers have called for a blanket ban on unpaid shift work.
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companies can currently invite prospective employees to do trial shifts with the carrot of a job at the end. but there has been a six—fold increase over three years in complaints over unpaid shifts, according to the trade union unite. on friday, a private members' bill which seeks to make unpaid trials illegal will get its second parliamentary reading. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9:30. good morning. get in touch with us, you're very welcome. you can use twitter, e—mail or message us on facebook. in a moment, a pretty heartbreaking story from a teenager, a young woman, who attempted to take her own life nine times in the space of ten days. she is here with her mum and dad and she will talk specifically
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about the care she found difficult to access. they want to improve the mental health care teenagers and young people get. your expenses really welcome. we would like to feed those into the conversation with sherry and her mum and dad. do get in touch. let's get some sport with hugh. most m ost wa nted most wanted five english sides in the champions league, but it isjust two. just two. we saw man united go out in such a disappointing way, as tough as we thought it would be for chelsea last night in the champions league. they went away to spanish league leaders barcelona and had some confidence after a 1—1 first leg draw and the fact they hadn't lost at the nou camp on their last four visits. however, the were stung by the five—time ballon d'or winner lionel messi. having gone his first eight games
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against chelsea without a goal, he scored the equaliser in the first leg and scored two while setting up the other last night. and it was a case of the nutmeg! the first came afterjust a couple of minutes, deceiving thibaut courtois in the chelsea goal. his second, different end, different foot, same result. in fact it finished 3—0 on the night to barca, and means liverpool and manchester city will be the two british clubs in the quarter—final draw tomorrow. there were better scenes for arsenal's women last night — they stunned favourites manchester city to win the continental tyres cup for a record fifth time — 1—0 — thanks to vivianne miedema's goal. eddiejones, eddie jones, disappointing six nations, apologising for offending some other home nations. not great for eddiejones. some other home nations. not great for eddie jones. england some other home nations. not great for eddiejones. england head coach. you might remember the pictures of him being verbally abused by scotla nd him being verbally abused by scotland rugby fans and the sport
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was left disgusted, but once again braced against words from jones himself at a port last summer, he described the irish as... and wales as not very nice place, shall we say. he has apologised unreservedly, saying he was very sorry for any offence, no ski since, he said he should not have said what he did, but added motivation for the ireland tea m but added motivation for the ireland team —— no excuses. but added motivation for the ireland team -- no excuses. and no ruby walsh for the rest of the cheltenham festival. awful fall for the top jockey rest tony mcrae yesterday. -- awful fall jockey rest tony mcrae yesterday. -- awfulfall for jockey rest tony mcrae yesterday. -- awful fall for the jockey rest tony mcrae yesterday. -- awfulfall for the top jockey rest tony mcrae yesterday. -- awful fall for the top jockey yesterday. the serious injury yesterday, he went to hospital with a suspected broken leg, he found that the second last fence and it seems he has broken the same local four months ago, onlyjust made a
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return to racing, and he will miss the rest of the festival including freddie's gold. the big race was the queen mother champion chase altior easley came home first. finally, some bad news from south korea. gb cannot win a medal in the curling. they lost korea in the penultimate round robin knoche. in the afternoon's session, norway's victory over slovakia, it means the brits are out, even if they beat china, some disappointment for paralympics gb in pyeongchang. more through the morning. when she was 17, sherry denness tried to kill herself nine times in 10 days.
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that was last november. now 18, sherry‘s been diagnosed with a number of mental health conditions, including borderline personality disorder and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder or adhd. 0n seven of her nine attempts, sherry went to a&e, where she was patched up and deemed well enough to be sent home with no further help. things came to a head when she was found near the local train station and was eventually sectioned under the mental health act. bbc stories has been following sherry. she's doing better now. we will talk to her in a moment. she and her parents feel she was badly let down by mental health services over a period of many years and they feel places like hospitals should be better equipped to cope with children in crisis. sherry‘s dad posted this online to help raise awareness of their campaign. piano plays the video has had more
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than 5.5 million views and the campaign hashtag "wecaresherry" has been shared widely. sherry and her mum andi and dad chris are here now... good morning to all of you. thank you for coming on the programme. how are you, first of all? i was nervous, but i'm 0k. are you, first of all? i was nervous, but i'm ok. we will look after you. tell us about the campaign and what it's been like to have this incredible support from millions of people, most of whom are strangers. i can't even... millions of people, most of whom are strangers. ican't even... i have a lwa ys strangers. ican't even... i have always had the mindset that i am not always had the mindset that i am not a very liked person because the issues i have gone through. i was bullied at school. i had quite a rough time with it. i have always been of the mindset that not a lot of people care about me apart from the people who have to do, like my pa rents! the people who have to do, like my parents! so seeing it exposed, that
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i was under section, when it was launched, and i had phoned time. i saw it, and i thought, wow. you were sectioned at that time?|j saw it, and i thought, wow. you were sectioned at that time? i was in the hospital, yes. iwas sectioned at that time? i was in the hospital, yes. i was 200 miles away from my parents. i checked on my facebook and the video that you just played has come up on there. i was like... e!! people from? how: it% cagiggfrgm 2:4 ' ~ comfortable talking about some of your diagnoses, including borderline personality disorder and adhd. can you give any insights to our audience into the kind of voices you have heard in your head in the past? i've had delusions since i was quite young. my first delusion was when i
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was 12. they come in the forms of site, and they come in the forms of hearing as well. the site is really scary because it's, how can you look at me right now and see in perfect detail because i'm right here? —— the sight is really scary. you are scared because everyone else tells you it's not real. the voices are the same. sometimes they can be inner thoughts. and it willjust come from within. but sometimes you will actually hear it as if is external. again, people tell you nothing is there. it's a really dark, scary and lonely place. there will be people watching who can relate to this. i want to let our audience know that we will talk in detail about the kind of things you have experienced and perhaps if you have experienced and perhaps if you have young children you might not wa nt have young children you might not want them to hear, but it's your decision. what kind of things would you see and what kind of things with
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the voices say to you? i used to have three delusions. they sometimes come back when i am in a really bad state. 0r come back when i am in a really bad state. or i am emotionally regularised. 0ne state. or i am emotionally regularised. one is called ciaran, one is anna and one is alice. ciaran isa one is anna and one is alice. ciaran is a really horrible man who would stand outside my window at night and wave at me. he would speak to me as well. alice was a little girl who didn't say anything. she would just walk around my room. and anna, when i had anorexia, i developed another voice called anna, and it was that voice called anna, and it was that voice who was always telling me, don't eat. but ciaran would say things like, if you don't hurt yourself, or if you don't do this to
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yourself, or if you don't do this to yourself, or if you don't do this to yourself, or tell lies, or whatever, then i will kill your family. yourself, or tell lies, or whatever, then i will kill yourfamily. it yourself, or tell lies, or whatever, then i will kill your family. it was very real. so i would do it because i was scared for my family. it would be visions. when i am in that state, i'm thinking, he is showing me visions, he can actually do this. i'm thinking, he is showing me visions, he can actually do thism must have been terrifying. visions, he can actually do thism must have been terrifyingm visions, he can actually do thism must have been terrifying. it was, it was horrible. he told me one night to sit in the garden at three in the morning. and not come out, and cover myself in a black blanket. i was cold, i wanted to go in because i was cold, and he would say, no, you don't deserve to. that kind of stuff. and this led to last november when you are tempted to ta ke november when you are tempted to take your own life multiple times in a short period of time, in ten days. you were taken to a&e a number of
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times. and then you would be released when the physical side of things had been cleared up, is that correct? yes. what were you thinking when you were discharged? at that point in time, i was not in the right mindset. i was thinking, good, because i can do it again. really? speaking to your mother now, what we re speaking to your mother now, what were you thinking when she was discharged? god, yeah, what on earth?! from our point of view, once is enough. we have had to hold sherry's hand when she has done things to herself and she is in a coma, and to nurse your child that your bedside, watching, no response to every single pressure point and every single thing they do to class you ina every single thing they do to class you in a coma, and to see your child in that fragile state, it's a bit
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like today, it's surreal. is this really happening? this can't really be happening. and when they let your child go, you're just like, what?! do you know what i mean? so we were just left thinking, what the heck, literally, what the heck. and what was it like for you as sherry's dad, knowing the potentially the physical side of things had been treated, but mentally, clearly, there was so much going on. it was a difficult time for everyone. it was try to get the nurses or somebody on our side, to say, will you listen to what we are saying to you, because if you release her, she will try and do the worst. it kept happening and happening. but what you were saying would happen, it would happen, and yet she would still be released. exactly, and this was a pattern that
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happened not only in that ten days, but since she came onto the radar, if you like, of mental health, when she was 11. i remember the first time she self harm that 13. we looked at each other and thought, where did that come from? it was a progression we never ever anticipated. and that was really tough. you say sherry was 11 when she was first assessed by cams. she said —— they said she was naughty and attention seeking and her delusions were fake. they said that within earshot of me when i was 11 yea rs within earshot of me when i was 11 years old. they took me in for an assessment for adhd and i heard the person who assessed me saying to my mother that she was an attention seeker, and it was a behavioural thing. that she was looking for
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attention. we have had to fight for her every step of the way. there hasn't been a day gone by that we haven't been exhausted by the fight. you get to the end of it and think, i can't take any more, and then something else happens. and every day you think, this is the bottom, we will get up now, because we are really positive people. but no, there is a new bottom. this kept happening and happening, over and over again. we have always wanted to launch a over again. we have always wanted to launcha campaign, over again. we have always wanted to launch a campaign, because we have always felt there is no help for young people. we are saying between the age of 10—25. because even though you are an adult at 18, really, what makes you one day a child and i—dayer adult? really, what makes you one day a child and 1-dayer adult? that's normality transition for somebody with mental health, at 17 you are still a child, but at 18 you have aduu still a child, but at 18 you have adult responsibilities. for somebody
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with mental health, who doesn't fit into the category of normal, it's a very stressful a nd into the category of normal, it's a very stressful and hard time. there should be more support. but you were not getting that support when you are 17 either really. until you section, which is what you wanted, which is after the ninth time you are tempted to... you were found at are tempted to... you were found at a train station. the police found you, and they took the decision to section you, which you were relieved about. the legs nearly went from under me. i was gobsmacked. pcp tu rcotte under me. i was gobsmacked. pcp turcotte and under me. i was gobsmacked. pcp tu rcotte and dan under me. i was gobsmacked. pcp turcotte and dan ayrton are our heroes, without a shadow of a doubt. -- pc heroes, without a shadow of a doubt. —— pc peter coe. we can't thank those individuals enough. you say you were seen in that period of ten days by 18 different health care professionals. that's quite extraordinary. are you saying that
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nobody wasjoining the extraordinary. are you saying that nobody was joining the dots up effectively? i don't think it was a case of them notjoining the dots up. it was more a case of them not wanting to. i have been dealt with a lot in hospitals, main hospitals, paediatric wards, and there is a massive taboo about it. nobody really wa nts massive taboo about it. nobody really wants to talk about it, nobody really wants to help. that's why i am continuing with this campaign. there are people who do wa nt to campaign. there are people who do want to help and organisations, because we have had them on this programme. it seems really sad you we re programme. it seems really sad you were not put in touch with one of those. chris conley you did this video that went viral. it's very poignant, i have to say. —— chris, you did this video. what is the point of this, it has been seen millions of times, so what do you wa nt to millions of times, so what do you want to change as a result of your family's experience? all the bad my
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family's experience? all the bad my family has gone through, we want to make a positive change and help young people, give them support and let them know there are people there. the reason for doing the video was to give an insight into what it is like for sherry, what she was suffering, and give people an insight on what it is like for parents who have children who suffer with mental health. i did the video thinking maybe a couple of hundred people would watch it, and every couple of days it would go up more and more. i have some messages. there is one i have left over there from a young woman called georgina, who is 21. she talked about being diagnosed with mental health issues... i can't find it. i have just printed it out... it is so pertinent to you. let me find it. i would like to share my experiences. i'm 21, diagnosed with
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clinical depression at 13 after a series of self harm issues. after visiting my school nurse and gp, it took eight months for me to be referred to talking therapy with a child and adolescent mental health service. the quality of the therapy was so poor it worse and my mental health and i was under the age of 18 i was refused any appropriate medication. i was patronised and dismissed by the person i was told to speak to. discharged and then relapsed, it took a further five months to get an appointment with a psychologist. it was only when i reached 18 and 20 university i receive treatment i needed. i have been on medication for over three years now and i am better than ever. some of that, you can relate to? terrible. i can totally relate to that. that is what struck us, it was not an isolated case, we knew that, but we did not realise just how many people are
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just like us and it gave us hope as well. why don't you explain what this is, sherry? such a wonderful idea, you send this out to people who are feeling like nobody cares. 0n who are feeling like nobody cares. on our website, we have at the bottom of the page a button that says, apply for a recovery box. i make them myself from scratch, handmade. i do absolutely everything. there is a little inventory slip and a message that is a lwa ys inventory slip and a message that is always personalised, a poem, some sweet treats, a diary for thoughts, colouring, for destruction, stressed toys —— colouring for distraction, stress toys. this is going to a girl
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in essex. yes. age? we're not sure. the government promised in 2015 £1.11 billion overfive the government promised in 2015 £1.11 billion over five years to transform child and adolescent mental health services and they are committed to employing more therapists and supervisors, what do you say?l little bit too late, really. the help needs to happen now, it is disgusting, when you look at primary school, you can start to see patterns of children's behaviour, we are talking about as young as year three, four, five, and, really, for us, it is not websites that are needed, paper information, ring this number, it is face to face. people need early intervention. schools need early intervention. schools need to have a person, whether a specialist teacher or another type
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of classroom assistant, that is trained in recognising early—onset adolescent mental health issues. because if sherry had received the help at 11, just before crossing over to senior school, then she would have been on the right track and we may not have gone down the road of self harm and all of the other stuff. actually, research shows, self harm is a cry because they get so far with their mental health, there is nowhere to go in their head, nowhere to go, and then you get self harm. we have heard stories of parents being given safe self harming kits, that is ludicrous. i do not understand, why would we be reactive sea society when we should be proactive and that
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means getting children the help they desperately need —— a reactive society. we are working so hard to help other parents, we have a secret group for parents, carers, foster carers, adoptive parents, whoever is caring for a young person, and we help them with different topics, q&as weekly, they can ask whatever they like, we're not experts, we do not claim to be experts, but what we are is we are experienced in this through our own experience. if we can help, which they say we are helping, it does not feel like we are, but they say massively we are helping, and if we can help one set of parents, then, great. and sherry has come on board with the campaign re ce ntly has come on board with the campaign recently and she does more live things on the site and interacts
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with her audience and stuff like that. that has been really positive as well. thank you. well done. thank you very much for being on the programme. if you want help or advice on mental health issues, please go to the bbc action line website and i have got some messages from you and a lot of love for you as well, sherry. i will read some of those through the programme. still to come... it's seven years since the war in syria began. we'll speak to people living through the conflict. and could more than 100 homeless people seeking shelter in an empty commercial building in central london be forced to leave? time for the latest news. here's annita. the bbc news headlines this morning. the white house has given its backing to britain's decision to expel russian diplomats in retaliation for the nerve agent attack on sergei
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skripal and his daughter. the us said it was a just response and america stood in solidarity with its closest ally. and in a hardening of president trump's tone on russia, his spokeswoman accused it of undermining the security of countries worldwide. 23 staff at the russian embassy in london have been given a week to leave the uk. however, the kremlin continues to deny any involvement in the attempted murder. the labratory where scientists helped identify the nerve agent used in salisbury is to get more funding from the government as part of a defence modernisation programme. an extra £48 million for a new chemical weapons defence centre at porton down will be announced by gavin williamson in his first major speech as defence secretary later today. the investigation into the fire at grenfell tower has found the fire doors may not have been as effective as they were supposed to be. the metropolitan police tested a door designed to resist fire for half an hour and found that it only lasted 15 minutes.
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the investigation is ongoing. the brexit secretary, david davis, has said he's prepared to accept the eu's offer of a shortened transition period, after the uk leaves the european union in march, 2019. he said he would agree to a call for the transition to end in december, 2020, if that helped to secure a deal at next week's eu summit. the world health organization is to carry out a review of the potential impact of plastic on human health. it follows the release of a new study by us researchers — the largest of its kind — which discovered plastic particles in popular brands of bottled water. scientists say that there is no evidence yet to suggest it is a cause for concern. in the past three years, parents across england and wales have been fined about £24 million forfailing to send their children to school. a bbc investigation also shows some councils are issuing
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penalties at rates five times higher than the average. some parents say they now actively budget for the cost of fines when planning holidays. while some councils admit they have become stricter, they say they are protecting the education of children. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. we will bring you more detail on the story reported on them, the flat doors in grenfell tower could only hold back a blaze for half the time they were supposed to, according to investigators. messages from europe at the interview with sherry, marine a says, at the interview with sherry, marine asays, i'm at the interview with sherry, marine a says, i'm so pleased she is receiving the treatment she deserves. incredibly brave. from an 18—year—old who does not wish us to use her name, i'm18, struggling with depression and an eating disorder after turning 16, in my
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area, the way to be seen by a mental health specialist was just under three months. for someone struggling a lot. but someone struggling a lot, this time period was extensive and unsuitable. 0nce this time period was extensive and unsuitable. once i was finally seen, it was difficult not to feel guilty because you were constantly told how many children were on waiting lists. i felt like saying, you many children were on waiting lists. ifelt like saying, you may many children were on waiting lists. i felt like saying, you may as well give it to them if they needed than me. when i turned 18, i was going to be discharged from the service. i was at my worst in terms of my mental state. because of me becoming an adult, it was overnight by mental health team were no longer interested in treating me. i had to wait a further eight weeks to be reviewed by a and adult dental health team —— by an adult mental health team —— by an adult mental health team. here's some sport now. chelsea were the latest british team to be knocked out of the champions league last night after a 3—0 defeat awat at barcelona.
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lionel messi scored twice on the night. it means manchester city and liverpool are the only domestic sides in the hat for friday's quarterfinal draw. good news for arsenalfans — the club secured its first piece of silverware this season as they shocked manchester city to win the continental tyres cup — it finished 1—0 thanks to vivienne miedema's winner. the cheltenham festival's all—time leading rider ruby walsh will miss the rest of this week's event after a fall. walsh has a suspected leg fracture to the same leg with which he has just spent four months away from the sport with injury. great britain cannot win a medal in the wheelchair curling. defeat to south korea earlier and norway's victory over slovakia means the brits cannot reach the medal play—offs. more sport in the next hour. seven years ago today, the first deaths happened in what has become the war in syria. it started as a peaceful uprising, and no—one expected the full—scale conflict that unfolded. since then, more than half a million have been killed. 6 million people have been forced
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to leave their homes. and 13 million have needed humanitarian aid. it's a conflict that has demonstrated both the best and the worst of humanity. allegations of a leader using chemical weapons on his own people and starvation and malnutrition in the harsh winter conditions. the syrian people remain caught in an international power struggle between those that support and those that oppose president bashar al—assad. this film is a snapshot of where we are today in syria's history. it's complicated, so you might want to sit down and take it all in. syria has now been at war for seven years. and if anything, it's getting worse. peaceful protests turned into a civil war, but, and this is the key to understanding what's really going on, that civil war has now morphed into something else, a conflict of global dimensions
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playing out within syria. in a second, we'll explore why, but first, who is involved? well, you've still got the forces of president bashar al—assad. he's backed up by russia, as well as iran and various powerful shia militias. then you've got the rebels. now, they've been taking an absolute battering, but they are still fighting on. two of the biggest are called jaysh al—islam and ahrar al—sham. up in the north are the kurds. they're an ethnic group that are spread right across the region, and now hold large areas of the north of the country. they're allies of the us. there's also turkey, which is fighting kurdish forces. and israel, which is launching air strikes in the south. and finally, the islamic state group, the fanatical jihadists who took over large parts of syria and iraq, grabbing the world's attention with their brutality. they've lost almost all their territory, but they are still a threat.
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but if you really want to understand what's going on in syria, you need to know why people are fighting. since the very start, president assad has had one objective — staying in power. and he's been prepared to do pretty much anything to achieve it. although he denies it, the west has accused him of war crimes. from indiscriminate bombing, to using chemical weapons, his forces are thought to have been responsible for most of the conflict's deaths. assad's main target has always been the groups that he calls terrorists, but most others call rebels. they share one aim — to overthrow him. but in truth, that's really all they have in common in many cases. they started fighting after the government's brutal crackdown on peaceful protests back in 2011. and at first, they included army
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defectors, members of civil society. but as the war has ground on and got more brutal, many of them have been pushed out or killed. lots of the groups still fighting are now hardline islamists. finally, as i mentioned before, you've got the kurds in the north. there is more than 20 million of them across the region, but they've never had their own state. understanding that is crucial to understanding the kurds. soon after the start of the war, kurdish forces took control of the area they call rojava. that's after the government pulled out. their main fight is for autonomy and against is. but one of the reasons syria is such a mess is because it's become a proxy war for international powers. so why did they get involved? well, president assad is russia's closest ally in the region. if he fell, russia would lose its key foothold in the middle east.
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it would also lose tartus, its only mediterranean port. it could not let that happen. for iran, this was partly about supporting an old ally, but more than that, it was about countering the influence of their regional rivals, saudi arabia, and spreading their own influence across the region. the consensus is that in achieving their goals, both russia and iran have outplayed everyone else. while the us, turkey and the gulf states offered some support to various rebel groups, russia and iran decided not only that they wanted assad to win, but that they would make sure he did. against russian air power and iranian—backed militias, the rebels have been badly outmatched. now no one is seriously talking about assad being forced to give up power. the us always said it wanted him to leave, but never took decisive action to actually make it happen. maybe as it feared what would replace him. the rise of is, with their gruesome
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propaganda, was a far more straightforward enemy, and became the focus. the us worked with, trained and armed a group called the syrian democratic forces. although they're mostly made up of kurdish fighters called the ypg. they were crucial in driving is out of north—eastern syria. one of turkey's main roles has been giving shelter to millions of syrians fleeing the conflict, but they've also supported the rebel group called the free syrian army, and are accused of funding jihadists. turkey also fears kurdish autonomy in syria, as it thinks it would fuel separatism in turkey. and so it's launched a war against the ypg, who it says are terrorists. although remember, the ypg are the same fighters who are armed by and allied with the us. as a consequence, turkey, a member of nato, is now working closely with russia. down south, israel's main concern has been the growing
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influence of its arch foe, iran, and high—tech weaponry getting in the hands of hezbollah. and so a global conflict plays out within syria's borders, with russia now calling the shots. the war in syria is as complicated and bloody as ever. people are still dying. lives are still being torn apart. and the nation, global powers and, most importantly, the people of syria, are being drawn further into a situation that it's hard to see a way out of. let's talk now to ishmael hamoud. he is the first unaccompanied child to enter the uk under the dubs amendment — that's a tweak to a piece of eu law which means a number of children with no family in the uk have been able to come here to live. ahmad khanshour lives in eastern ghouta where thousands of people have been killed over the past three weeks. lina shamy left eastern aleppo
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during the violence with her husband. bissan fakih is a human rights activist — she escaped from syria to neighbouring lebanon. thank you for talking to us. we spoke to you a couple of weeks ago in eastern ghouta, and our audience knows it has been bombarded by your government. what's it been like since then? good morning, and thank you for having me again. assad exaggerates his violence, using another attempt, and his friends have made it clear they disrespect the whole world and international community. 600 civilians have been killed since the resolution in the un was passed. i can read to your
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message from a doctor in a recently surrounded town in eastern ghouta. we heard last from him yesterday and nobody knows what has happened there since. he says, this town is being eliminated. the regime army has entered the town from the east. i tried to flee out but couldn't. 0ur whole family was killed in front of me by an air strike. i returned my children to the shelter and came out alone to tell our story. the army is advancing from different points. tens of people have been killed, more than 5000 people in the town are threatened with elimination. please send our message to the rest of the world. this may be the last message i can send. the wounded are on the streets and cannot be transferred. they are targeting any
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moving object. families are trying to flee under shelling. we don't know what has happened to them. the regime army is shelling the town with all sorts of weapons and we don't know what happened to the family that fled under the shelling. there are many casualties on the streets, nobody is aiding them. their fate is unknown. streets, nobody is aiding them. theirfate is unknown. we streets, nobody is aiding them. their fate is unknown. we don't know what will happen to us. there are machine guns, artillery shelling and air strikes targeting people who are trying to flee. please help the town by bringing our voices to the world. we know we only have god, and this might be the last message from me and people in this town. and you don't know if the man who posted that message is alive or dead? no,
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we have no news about 5000 people in that town from last night. we hear all kinds of weapons are used there. it's very close to us but surrounded by the regime army. we are expecting the worst. lina, you got out of syria. what do you remember about the conflict beginning? hello and thank you for having me here. first, let me put things in context. the situation in syria is compensated just as the international community wants it to be complicated. —— is complicated. what happened was a revolution against the dictatorship. it's a brutal dictatorship, like
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nazis in the middle east. the world and international community wants it to stay. what happened in syria was a revolution against this dictatorship who is exterminating a revolution against this dictatorship these exterminating ' ' w ” f ,. a revolution against this dictatorship these terroristnafing ' ' w ” f ,. community. these terrorist countries, russia, the assad regime, and iran, were violating the international community resolutions. all these seven years. and there was no action at all. this is why the international community contributed
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in killing the syrian people and violence, the depths of thousands and thousands of civilians, millions of them. let me ask for a reaction to that. lina is right, the international community has past few resolutions and hasn't done a thing. this is the pattern we have seen since the absolute beginning of the uprising. activists from the first day were risking their lives, images of the beautiful protest they were holding. they were disappeared for trying to communicate to the outside world that they were protesting for freedom and being shot at. the international community has shown so much indifference. you are right in saying earlier that this is the best and worst of humanity we are seeing in syria. we have witnessed people fending for each other in the country. we have witnessed
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protesters risking their lives to tell the truth. we have witnessed doctors trying to treat patients under the lights of flashlights because there is no electricity. we have witnessed white helmets saving civilians from bombs. all this time we have known exactly what is happening because people risk their lives to show us, but we have let them down miserably. the international community has had absolutely no backbone and frankly we should be ashamed, particularly compared to the stunning bravery shown by the syrian people in the la st shown by the syrian people in the last few years. how long do you think this war will go on for? thank you for having me here. this war, after seven yea rs after seven years of fighting and killing and the conflict in syria, we hope it will finish soon, as soon as is because the international community should now move and work together. we want to build hope,
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british, french and american people, should try to stop the war there because russia, the first responsible country of what is happening in the syria now, with the support of the iranians people, it's eight criminal and chemical government. you were 11 when the conflict started and you are now a young man. the conflict continues, despite your president crossing what was called a red line by then us president 0bama by using chemical weapons against his people. what should happen? they should work together. russia has used its vote more than ten times in the un security council, creating problems for the syrian people. they built their hope on the western war. thank you so much for coming on the programme. we appreciate it, and
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will continue to report on it. we will continue to report on it. we will see how and when it ends. we will bring you the latest news and sport in a moment. in the past half hour, we've had an update from the metropolitan police about the grenfell tower fire last june. 0ur correspondent, lucinda adam, is here. tell us what they have told us. witnesses to the grenfell tower fire and emergency services were shocked by how quickly the fire spread around the building. we know 71 people died and dozens were injured when the fire happened lastjune in a tower block. now a door from the g re nfell tower, a tower block. now a door from the grenfell tower, it has been found it could only hold backfire for half the time it was meant to. the metropolitan police told us that this morning. they have done tests on the door, it was designed to hold back a fire for 30 minutes, but after expert tests, they found it only held it back for 15 minutes,
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and the metropolitan police describe it as and the metropolitan police describe itasa and the metropolitan police describe it as a much shorter period than expected. how does this lead into the wider enquiries as to how the fire happened and how it spread so rapidly? the metropolitan police are still in the middle of looking at that, carrying out forensic examinations at the scene and also expert tests off—site. they say they will not say at the moment whether any will not say at the moment whether a ny test will not say at the moment whether any test results will have any implications on an overall criminal investigation, but they have said that officers have shared their findings with the ministry of housing and department for communities and local government, for them to take any action required. housing secretary sajid javid is going to make a statement on the subject from 11:30am which people can watch here on bbc news. no information yet on who made the doors, who manufactured them, who supplied them and who put them into g re nfell tower. supplied them and who put them into grenfell tower. the news and sport is coming up at 10am. let's get the latest weather update with alina.
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i thought i would start with some sunshine, there has been some around today. for large parts of the country it has looks like this, a lot of rain around. northern ireland has seen 50 millimetres in the last 24 hours with more to come. rain in the short—term, but over the next 24-48 the short—term, but over the next 24—48 hours it will turn colder. picking up an easterly wind, and it will feed into some snow across the weekend. the band of rain this afternoon clearing away eventually in northern ireland and its way north east across northern ingot and south—west scotland. north—east scotla nd south—west scotland. north—east scotland will stay largely dry but it's very windy with wind extending down the east coast. some rain showers could be heavily heavy and thundery. we will keep the strength of the wind. snow over higher ground in scotland. another band of showery
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rain pushing in from the south—west affecting parts of england and wales and temperatures overnight between three and seven celsius. colder air coming into scotland could see icy stretches tomorrow morning and further snow, both the other high ground but extending to lower parts in northern england. sunshine and showers in the south, but they could be heavy and thundery with some hail thrown in. mild across central and southern england but colderfurther north and a sign of what's to come over the weekend because we will once again pick up an easterly wind. the blue colours indicating the cold temperatures, not as cold as earlier in the month, but a dip in temperature and a sharp shock to the system temperature and a sharp shock to the syste m o n temperature and a sharp shock to the system on saturday. we could see snow overnight. sunny spells and snow overnight. sunny spells and snow showers. adding on the strength of the wind and it will feel bitterly cold. temperatures dropping in places by 8—10d. the monitor might read 2 degrees, but given the
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strength of the wind it will be bitterly cold. 0n strength of the wind it will be bitterly cold. on sunday, this feature will be pushing up from the south and it could potentially bring some significant snow to parts of southern england and wales. in uncertainty to the timings but we will likely see some snow around on sunday and it will feel really cold with temperatures struggling to get above freezing. adding on the strength of the wind and it will feel subzero. hello, it's 10am, i'm victoria derbyshire. president trump comes out in support of the uk's decision to expel 23 russian diplomats from britain after the nerve agent attack in salisbury. the united states stands in absolute solidarity with great britain. the united states believes that russia is responsible for the attack on two
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people in the united kingdom, using a military grade nerve agent. we will get reaction. also coming up on the programme... sherry denness was 17 when she attempted to take her own life nine times in ten days at the end of last year — before she got the help she needed. she told us about the problems she and her family faced in getting the right support. i have been dealt with a lot in hospitals, paediatric wards, and it is just... there is hospitals, paediatric wards, and it isjust... there is this massive to do about it and no one wants to talk about it, no one wants to help. 0ne viewer says the entire mental health system in our country needs a com plete system in our country needs a complete overhaul and it is not fit for purpose in its current state. more messages from you so why will read those in the next hour. also... working repeated shifts for free — and with no offer of a job at the end. as calls to ban the practice of unpaid trial shifts are debated in parliament, do let us
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know your experiences. and we'll hear about the latest fitness craze — beer yoga — where you can enjoy sipping a nice cold lager while doing the downward dog. good morning. here's annita mcveigh in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today's news. good morning. the white house has given its backing to britain's decision to expel russian diplomats in retaliation for the nerve agent attack on sergei skripal and his daughter. the us said it was a just response and america stood in solidarity with its closest ally. russia says it is working on retaliatory measures after 23 of its diplomats were expelled from britain. the labratory where scientists helped identify the nerve agent used in salisbury is to get more funding from the government as part of a defence modernisation programme. an extra £48 million for a new chemical weapons defence centre at porton down will be announced by gavin
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williamson in his first major speech as defence secretary later today. the investigation into the fire at grenfell tower has found the fire doors may not have been as effective as they were supposed to be. the metropolitan police tested a door designed to resist fire for half an hour and found that it only lasted 15 minutes. the investigation is ongoing. the brexit secretary, david davis, has said he's prepared to accept the eu's offer of a shortened transition period, after the uk leaves the european union in march, 2019. he said he would agree to a call for the transition to end in december, 2020, if that helped to secure a deal at next week's eu summit. the world health organization is to carry out a review of the potential impact of plastic on human health. it follows the release of a new study by us researchers — the largest of its kind — which discovered plastic particles in popular brands of bottled water. scientists say there is no evidence
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yet to suggest it is a cause for concern. a 20—year—old woman has been jailed for six months in the american state of minnesota for fatally shooting her boyfriend in a botched youtube video they hoped would go viral. pedro ruiz convinced monalisa perez to shoot him at close range with a powerful pistol, believing that a thick book he held in front of his chest would shield him. he died at the scene. in the past three years, parents across england and wales have been fined around £24 million for failing to send their children to school. a bbc investigation shows some councils are you issuing penalties at rates five times higher than the average and some parents say they now actively budget for the cost of fines when planning holidays. some councils admit they have become stricter but they say they are protecting the education of children. some mps and lawyers have
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called for a blanket ban on page shiftwork. companies currently invite prospective employees to do trial shifts. but there has been a sixfold increase over three years in complaints about unpaid shifts according to the trade union unite. 0n according to the trade union unite. on friday a private members' bill seeking to make unpaid trials illegal will get its second parliamentary reading. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 10.30am. this tweet, i have borderline personality disorder, i often describe it as the angel on one shoulder, the devil on the other. i eventually received the right treatment. i hope the beautiful young woman on your programme today, sherry, gets the right help. caroline says, i was 45 and had of short—term psychotic breakdown. my brother—in—law took me to a&e with hallucinations and flashing lights at 3:30am, i asked her sleeping
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ta blets, at 3:30am, i asked her sleeping tablets, they sent me home with nothing. at 9pm the next night, i attempted to take my own life. a&e have failed me. there are a number of those which i will read through the next hour of the programme. if you want to send us an e—mail, you do not have to use your name, you can use twitter, and if you text, you will be charged that the standard network rate. here's some sport now with hugh. well, we knew it was a sizeable task for chelsea in the champions league, away at spanish league leaders barcelona, and as some may have predicted, a great performance from five—time ballon d'or winner lionel messi was the difference. he scored two and set the other up in their 3—0 win. the first came afterjust a couple of minutes, deceiving thibaut courtois in the chelsea goal, before his second — different end, different foot, same result. a 4—1 aggregate win for messi and barca which means
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liverpool and manchester city will be the two british clubs in the quarterfinal draw tomorrow. 0ur start was terrible, to concede a goal after only two minutes, but after this, i think we tried to play football. for a long time, we dominated, we created chances to score. there were better scenes for arsenal's women last night. they stunned favourites manchester city to win the continental tyres cup for a record fifth time 1—0, thanks to vivianne miedema's goal. england rugby union head coach eddiejones has apologised for making derogatory comments regarding ireland and wales. at a sponsors‘ talk last summer, it's emerged he described the irish as "scummy" and wales as, well, not a very nice little place, shall we say? well, jones has apologised unreservedly, adding, "no excuses, i shouldn't have said what i did."
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england host ireland in the six nations at twickenham on saturday. it's day three of the cheltenham festival but it'll be missing one of racing's biggest stars. that's after a serious injury to jockey ruby walsh yesterday. he went to hospital with a suspected broken leg when he fell at the second last fence. he broke the same leg four months ago and had onlyjust made his return to racing. now he'll miss the rest of the festival, including friday's gold cup. but on a difficult day for the walsh family, there was some success for ruby's sister, katy. she won on board the 25—to—1 shot relegate in the final race of the day. the big race of the day, though, was the queen mother champion chase. it was billed as a straight fight between the british trained altior and irish horse douvan. but after douvan fell with four fences to jump, the evens favourite altior ridden by nico de boinville easily came home first in the end. and great britain can't win a medal in the wheelchair curling
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at the winter parlympics. earlier they lost to hosts korea in their penultimate round—robin match. that result meant they had to rely on others to see if they could make the medal playoffs. but in the afternoon session, norway's victory over slovakia means that britain are out, even if they win their final pool match against china. more sport later on. thank you. the united states says it stands in solidarity with the uk following the prime minister's decision to expel 23 russian diplomats after moscow refused to explain how a russian—made nerve agent was used in a murder attempt on a former spy. theresa may has also revoked an invitation to russia's foreign minister and said the royal family would not attend the fifa world cup later this year. the russian embassy said the expulsions were "unacceptable, unjustified and short—sighted". in a hardening of president trump's tone on russia, his spokeswoman accused it of undermining the security of countries worldwide. the white house's comment were echoed by the us ambassador to the un, nikki haley, during an emergency meeting
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of the security council. the united states stands in absolute solidarity with great britain. the united states believes russia is responsible for the attack on two people in the uk using a military grade nerve agent but this is not an isolated incident. the assassination attempt in salisbury is part of an alarming increase in the use of chemical weapons. russia must fully cooperate with the uk's investigation and come clean about its own chemical weapons programme. russia is a permanent member of the security council. it is entrusted in the united nations charter with upholding international peace and security. it must account for exceptions. we have a lot of people to speak to. let us introduce them. let's speak now to mark lyall—grant, a former national security adviser and uk ambassador to the un.
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0liver miles, ambassador to libya when pc yvonne fletcher was killed and britain severed diplomatic ties with them, and hamish de bretton gordon, who is the former commanding officer of the british army's chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear regiment. chris bryant — labourmp, chairof the all—party group on russia and member of the foreign affairs select committee. the significance of donald trump racking theresa may. it is very significant, there were some concerns he had not been as forthright as he might have been —— racking theresa may. following comments by the ambassador at the un last night, extremely strong, the white house itself has come out and echoed those comments and i think thatis echoed those comments and i think that is really important because pa rt that is really important because part of the purpose behind last night's emergency meeting of the un security council was to secure m essa g es of security council was to secure messages of support from our allies and friends around the world and to
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bring to the attention of the international community the facts of this horrendous case. oliver miles, what should happen now?|j this horrendous case. oliver miles, what should happen now? i think there are two points i would like to make about the libyan affair which i was involved in in 1984 when i was responsible for breaking off relations with the libyan government. 0ne relations with the libyan government. one which struck me when i read recently, i did not know at the time, was mrs thatcher, the prime minister at the time, very relu cta nt prime minister at the time, very reluctant at first to break off relations because she could see the consequences were literally incalculable, unforeseeable. the second point i want to make, the consequences were in fact very bad for britain because it was after we broke off relations that gaddafi gave some text of the ira which was i think the most damaging thing he everdid —— i think the most damaging thing he ever did —— gave semtex. the lesson i would draw in a word from that event to be applied in the present
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crisis is, think carefully before you act, take it slowly. let me bring in chris bryant, labour mp, thatis bring in chris bryant, labour mp, that is potentially what your leader is saying, some believe he is, but there are labour mps criticising him for not condemning russia, for not apportioning blame to russia?” for not condemning russia, for not apportioning blame to russia? i do not think the important point at this stage is what the labour party thinks, if i'm honest. the leader of the opposition, he wants to be in number10. the opposition, he wants to be in number 10. i fully understand that, but i think this is really about how britain make sure we in this country are safe, it is about how the international community comes together to say to russia that we will not put up with this. i think, for instance, removing 23 diplomats from the uk will seriously degrade their ability to gather intelligence in the uk and that is an important factor. i do not think theresa may
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has over at the pudding, if anything, she has gone admirably steadily and there may be further things she wants to do, i would be slightly critical of her in that it has taken quite a long time for us to get here. actually, putin's track re cord to get here. actually, putin's track record is very clear of readily and repeatedly using excessive violence, whether in the moscow state siege or ukraine, bringing down of the mh17 plane, we have a track record here, a clear motive for russia to be involved in this, and having read quite a lot... i am not a chemist, but having read quite a lot of the international chemists experts in this field, their reading of the situation, it seems to point very clearly to putin. i will ask you again, why won't your leader, jeremy corbyn, condemn russia for this
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chemical weapons attack? as i understand it, he has. he has called itan understand it, he has. he has called it an appalling attack, he has not apportion blame to russia.” understand he has. the story has moved on and emily thornberry, and the shadow defence secretary, they we re the shadow defence secretary, they were clear we as a party stand full square... what has jeremy corbyn said? i have not seen the statement himself, i have only seen reports of it. you saw in the house of commons yesterday, and the leader of the welsh labour party on the scottish nationalists and the welsh nationalists, everybody is very clear that this is a question of national security and the country has to stand together. hamish, cani hamish, can i ask you about the new facility at porton down being announced today, there were plans in the pipeline and it has been hastened on british soil, what difference will it make for people in britain from eight chemical
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weapons attack? first of all we recognise there is a gap in capability. we were blindsided by the attack in salisbury. now the threat is apparent we need to make sure our military have the capability to be able to defend this country on our shores and outside with the right capability. country on our shores and outside with the right capabilitym somebody‘s food or drink is spiked ora somebody‘s food or drink is spiked or a droplet of stuff sprayed in theirface can or a droplet of stuff sprayed in their face can kill them, or a droplet of stuff sprayed in theirface can kill them, how can this new facility potentially stop that happening again?” this new facility potentially stop that happening again? i expect it is pa rt that happening again? i expect it is part of a range of capabilities. now we know the threat exists, and i would say that the only people... the only tiny doubt the russians are involved, only the russians can help with that. we know they are the only ones who make this agent, and the
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russians confirmed that yesterday. there is only one place where novichok is made, and that is in russia. if the prohibition of chemical weapons envoy can go to russia, at the moment it looks irish is the only explanation. we will develop capabilities to keep people safe in this country. the russian foreign ministry says russia will expel british diplomats soon, we are just hearing. you would expect that. you would expect that, it see standard russian response. that was fully expected and factored into the government's original decision, i'm sure. chris bryant... i do agree, incidentally, that was obvious. sure. chris bryant... i do agree, incidentally, that was obvious]! that it for diplomatic relations
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between us and pressure for a period of time? do we now enter potentially a second cold war? no, because if we we re a second cold war? no, because if we were to send the whole diplomatic team back, and suspend diplomatic relations, which we are clearly not. incidentally, there are some questions that are not quite answered yet. it's not quite clear what the government's intention is with regard to people who are very close to the putin regime who has significant assets in the uk on the basis of unexplained wealth. i hope we will freeze those assets as soon as possible. it's not quite clear what we will be doing about the magnitsky act or quite what the government intends. and it's not clear if we are suspending all operations with regard security for the world cup. we did not suspend it with sochi, meaning the sochi olympics could proceed safely. my anxiety, and i'm a welshman, so it's none of my business whether england
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goes to play football in the world cup, but my anxiety is whether it will actually be safe in russia. we have often seen that russian fans are sometimes inspired by russian government activity and have been engaged in pretty violent attacks on other fans. my anxiety about the world cup is whether it will be safe, simply. thank you to all of you. still to come, could it be possible to introduce individualised cancer vaccines? we will hear about major trials planned on both sides of the atla ntic trials planned on both sides of the atlantic that will start next year. now a nowa group now a group of e1212: who over taken over 2 iggg—gggg gggggg feemteele for j in the centre of london. in 15 years in the centre of london. in order to give shelter to 100 homeless people. in their own words, they say they are saving people's lives because they have nowhere else to go. ok, so when we have
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somebody new come in, they come in the front door. they will be greeted here. we'll ask them what they need, how they are. what the priority is, whether they need to go straight to sleep, to eat. we have the kitchen down the end there. and we are providing hot, nutritious food all the time. there's tea and coffee. we have some medical supplies, and we have people who know how to look after people, so if somebody needs some attention to wounds or infections, we can do that. the sleeping area's on the ground floor here, and on the first floor. there was electricity already on in the building, and the water was already on. we just tidied up the plumbing where there were leaks and stuff, made sure everything was safe and secure. we have qualified electricians helping us, and i'm a plumber—builder as well, so we do safety checks every day, make sure there's nothing dangerous, no cables to trip over, everything's lit properly, so people don't. .. yeah, we are keeping people safe. i left home at 15 years of age. i started going into the hostel system. there was a big battle
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because of social services, and a lot of things happened in a short amount of time. and i've been homeless recently due to a lot going on in my life. there was no help being given. there was nothing available, no services wanting to obviously understand or were willing to help, so i had no choice but to have nowhere to go, because there's nowhere for us to go. i mean, it's out there. i mean, it's hard out there. what about others that might say you've got no business being here, you don't own the building, that you're not paying rent for the building. what would you say to them? our brothers and sisters have no business being on the street. freezing, dying. and there are ten empty commercial buildings for every person who's registered street sleeping. ten empty commercial buildings for every person who's registered as sleeping on the streets. i'm sorry. what business model is that? so, yeah, no business being here?
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we've a hundred people here. eating, sleeping, comfortable. we're saving lives here. i'm sorry. property. i've a disregard for that. when the building's been empty for 15 years, and we can save lives with it? it's our moral duty to save those lives. here's an update: there was a legal hearing yesterday and the company that owns the building — w1 properties — was issued with a possession order — meaning the firm has the legal right to evict those living the building. lets talk now to steve broe who has been volunteering at the centre. stush, who has been using the centre since it opened on the 1st of march. and joining us from the centre are freddie and rose,
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two of the centre's users. how are you feeling this morning?m was kind of disappointing, but we did expect it. there's always a possibility to get more time to help people and get them relocated. do you mean a bit of extra time in that building, or do you mean you have found another building? the thing about that is, we need a certain amount of notice. we had 160 people there last night. in what way can we just send them out to the streets? we are hoping to get a bit of leeway and time. yes, there might be alternatives. it could be as early as tonight, is my understanding, if officials or bailiffs turn up and ask 160 people to leave, will they leave ? ask 160 people to leave, will they leave? will you leave? that's a
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very good question and one i can't a nswer very good question and one i can't answer until it happens. and would you leave? as steve says, we will not know until the time occurs. but in general, if the bailiffs turn up, as they do, and a lot of time they are mob handed, fora as they do, and a lot of time they are mob handed, for a better turn of phrase, they may leave us no choice in the matter. and depending if people do resist, because some people do resist, because some people have literally fought tooth and nail their entire lives. people have literally fought tooth and nailtheir entire lives. some people have literally fought tooth and nail their entire lives. some of the people in the building have experience of homelessness that goes well beyond just sleeping on the street. if you had a guest on earlier who is suffering from the mental issues that she has, and a lot of people, if they didn't have one before, they've certainly got one before, they've certainly got one now. and they will potentially fight tooth and nailjust not to be put in potentially the same position. you can understand why somebody wouldn't want to be made
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homeless ahead of the weekend that is showing signs of having whether by you need to be inside. in a building that has been empty for a very long time, and was of no interest to the owner until this time. but it doesn't belong to you, that's what people say, it belongs to them. it's perfectly valid that it might belong to somebody, but if they are not using it and we can save lives with it, i don't see the problem with that. let me bring in freddie and rose. hello and good morning. tell us what it's been like for you living there and what it has meant to use. i am very, very friendly with the people. it is so
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ha rd friendly with the people. it is so hard for me. seeing people outside sleeping. a few weeks ago four people died because of the snow. it's hard to me. i can't believe, london is a rich city, but there is a lot of people sleeping outside. it's raining, snowing. it's hard for me to see that. freddie, where were you sleeping before you came to this building? outside. i was you sleeping before you came to this building? outside. iwas sleeping in a cold and unheated domestic environment. i came here for a
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reason. i knew this building because for many years i was dispatch riding andl for many years i was dispatch riding and i used to deliver and collect items from here. it seems ridiculous that when it ceases to be used, it just sits vacant, doing precisely nothing for anybody. except maybe accruing in value, so it is a speculative tool rather than the incredibly creative and interesting environment that has been created to save people's lives in real terms. we can see the environment behind you, but describe it for those who wa nt to you, but describe it for those who want to know more about what's going on in the four stories. it's very simple. people need to have a temperature which will not endanger their lives. so for every degree above a certain point, people are far better off. this is a factory
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for saving lives. you could put it like that, because it does something real for people. steve, like that, because it does something realfor people. steve, a like that, because it does something real for people. steve, a factory for saving lives, is that an apt description? yes. what we have are people coming in, notjust being fed and rested, but they socialise as well. there is an amazing amount of kindness, caring and empathy because everybody knows what it is like. you have people coming out after a good nights sleep and food. they think it's great, it feels wonderful. it's a phrase i have used a lot, you can see them wake up and shake off all that pressure they have been under. they will have breakfast and go, there are dishes to wash, i will do that. people are mopping floors, doing the dishes, helping to cook.
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people bring their skills. we have plumbers and carpenters, people who are finding something to do within their own skill set, and reminding themselves that it is possible and they might actually get back to work and get back into life. but out on the street when freezing cold, they can only concentrate on surviving. give them a break from that and they start to think, maybe i can have the time now to look for work, maybe i can go to the building site down the road and get back on my feet. this is what westminster city council tell us, they say the building is privately owned and as such any further legal action is up to the owner to take. but westminster has a well—established route to help people who might be sleeping rough and who are homeless through street link. the council spends £6.5 million per year on rough sleeping services and hostel and rough bed spaces are available every night and
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council workers are out every night offering help to rough sleepers. i will give you the polite version, it is not working, our organisation, they have been doing outreach in three different locations most nights of the week in london, hackney, central london, camden, they talk to people, if somebody wa nts to they talk to people, if somebody wants to be connected to streetlink, we try to make phone calls, even if we try to make phone calls, even if we gave our mobile numbers, call us back, they will say, if you get through to them, really hard, they might say, we will try to get to you within three hours. get the person to stay where they are... we have quite a few stories of people staying in the same place for five days, no call—back, no pick—up. staying in the same place for five days, no call-back, no pick-up. we will see what streetlink have to say. thank you. we will see what
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happens when the eviction occurs. thank you for coming on the programme. thank you for hearing us. is not a problem. time for the latest news. the bbc news headlines. the white house has given its backing to britain's decision to expel russian diplomats in retaliation for the nerve agent attack on sergei skripal and his daughter. the us said it was a just response and america stood in solidarity with its closest ally. russia says it is working on retaliatory measures after 23 of its diplomats were expelled from britain. the labratory where scientists helped identify the nerve agent used in salisbury is to get more funding from the government as part of a defence modernisation programme. an extra £48 million for a new chemical weapons defence centre at porton down will be announced by gavin williamson in his first major speech as defence secretary later today. the investigation into the fire at grenfell tower has found the fire doors may not have
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been as effective as they were supposed to be. the metropolitan police tested a door designed to resist fire for half an hour and found that it only lasted 15 minutes. the investigation is ongoing. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. here's some sport now with hugh. chelsea were the latest british team to be knocked out of the champions league last night after a 3—0 defeat away at barcelona. lionel messi scored twice on the night. it means manchester city and liverpool are the only domestic sides in the hat for friday's quarterfinal draw. good news for arsenalfans — the club secured its first piece of silverware this season as they shocked manchester city to win the continental tyres cup. it finished 1—0 thanks to vivienne miedema's winner. the cheltenham festival's all—time leading rider ruby walsh will miss the rest of this week's event after a fall yesterday. walsh has a suspected leg fracture to the same leg
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with which he just spent four months away from the sport with injury. and great britain cannot win a medal in the wheelchair curling at the winter parlympics. defeat to south korea in their penultimate round—robin match and norway's victory over slovakia means the britons cannot reach the medal play—off. they do have one match remaining. all the sport for now. more after 11am. when you're drinking bottled water, do you know what you're putting into your body? not just water, it seems, after a study suggested most major brands contain so—called microplastics — particles that are small enough to be ingested. the world health organization is now going to review the potential risks of plastic in drinking water. it absorbs to the surface of the
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plastics and under certain wavelengths of light, it causes them to basically sparkle like stars in the night sky. let us talk now to andrew mayes, one of the pioneers of the nile red technique, and managing director of food packaging foundation. what do you make of this, andrew mayes?. very interesting story and it highlights the fact micro—plastics all around us, everywhere look, everything we touch, our whole environment is full of plastic and i think this is an excellent highlight of the fact that it is in everything. jane, we do not yet have the research suggesting what chris, if any, there is to human beings,
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how do you react to this? -- what risk. it is reasonable to assume everyone is exposed to these plastic particles and that in itself means the risk is quite high. at the same time, what we do not know... we do not know that. we do not know what the toxicity is, that is what we do not know, but exposure seems to be very high, we know that. do we need to change the way we bottled water? it is premature to say that. the next step should be to identify in great detail what the source is, is it the packaging, the bottling process or and environmental source? the next step is to reduce the exposure levels. tell us more about the nile red technique works. exposure levels. tell us more about the nile red technique worksm exposure levels. tell us more about the nile red technique works. it is a method where you heard a fluorescent dye called nile red to the sample and it binds to the
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surface of the tiny plastic particles —— wear you read. it makes them grow when you shine a blue light on them so you can observe the samples through an orange filter with blue light shining on it and you can see the particles glowing brightly so you can identify them and count them. does it change... go ahead. i was just and count them. does it change... go ahead. i wasjust going to say, the reason we developed this technique is to allow people to do studies exactly like this, to be able to do large—scale exactly like this, to be able to do la rge—scale sampling, look exactly like this, to be able to do large—scale sampling, look at a very large—scale sampling, look at a very large numbers, and that way you can get a much clearer picture of what is going on in a situation like this. does it change your behaviour when it comes to buying bottled water? well, i would like to think i am quite environmentally focused a nyway am quite environmentally focused anyway so i try very hard not to buy bottled water. but it is very clear that worldwide we have to do
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something about this problem because currently 480 billion bottles are being sold every year worldwide and it is more than one per person per week for the whole population of the planet and this is clearly insane. we need to think about this in an entirely different way. would you agree with that? i do agree that we need to have a discussion as a society on how we use plastics and how we packaged food, consume foods and how we produce them. i agree that this is not a sustainable path forwards. thank you very much, both of you. andrew mayes, one of the pioneers of the nile red technique. we spoke to water companies, this is a selection, nestle told us it's internal testing began two years ago and they have not detected any above
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trace level, coca—cola said it has some of the most stringent quality standards and used a multistep filtration process. it acknowledged micro—plastics appear to be ubiquitous. tenon said it could not comment on the study because, the methodology used is unclear, but it added its own bottles had food grade packaging. —— danone. big clinical trials are opening next year on both sides of the atlantic to find out whether it's possible to produce individualised cancer vaccines to stop patients who've had cancer getting it again. a cancer vaccine is one of the holy grails of modern medical research. to talk about this, let me introduce you to peterjohnson, cancer research uk's professor of medical oncology at the university of southampton and director of the francis crick institute cancer research network. dr sophie acton is a cancer research uk research fellow who specialises in immunology. and adrian webb who was diagnosed
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with skin cancer in 2012. he had treatment, but a year later was given the devastating news that his cancer had spread to his lungs, bowel, spine, liver and spleen. he immediately started on a course of targeted treatments, including immunotherapy drugs, and five years later, he's here to tell us all about it. i hope so! starting with you, peter johnson. i want to talk about the clinical trials beginning next year, big clinical trials, there have been very small ones, into cancer vaccines. it is worth you explaining first of all how a vaccine works, we're all familiar with the measles vaccine, how does it work? we have thought for many years it should be possible to get the body's immune system to recognise what is
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different about cancer, they are different, the mutations, different to normal cells of the body, but it has been very difficult previously to get the immune system to lock onto them. in the last few years, we have had treatments switching the switches of the immune system so it cuts the brakes and allows it to recognise the cancer cells. now we can do that, we want to steer it, instead of just cutting can do that, we want to steer it, instead ofjust cutting the brakes and letting it roll, we want to steer it against what is particularly abnormal in a particularly abnormal in a particular person. the technology for sequencing the genes in a cancer cell is available so we can use that to work out what it is about the cancer that might be most visible to the immune system. you would take a biopsy of someone's cancer, sequence the genes, use it to make a potentially individualised vaccine. it is at the cutting edge. we have seen a few preliminary results in small numbers of patients and the
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exciting thing as it will now start going into much larger trials. could you theoretically do that for all people who have had a cancer? at the moment, the cancer is responding best to the immune therapy are the ones with lots of mutations, lots of abnormalities. those are the ones we will focus on, things like melanoma, lung cancer, bladder cancer, we know the way the cancer develops has caused damage to the dna making the most visible. two very small first aid schumann trials have taken place using the newly created cancer vaccine —— human trials. but the results, would you say they are promising, 12 out of the 19 patients well cancer free up to two years later? very exciting. very preliminary and! later? very exciting. very preliminary and i do not want people watching to think this is going to bea watching to think this is going to
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be a routine treatment tomorrow, really important to emphasise, we need the evidence, but it is very exciting to see that using this technology, we can get the immune system to lock onto the cancers. we had a chat last week, you gave me a brilliant analogy of how cancer cells work and they work like a woman's placenta does when it stops the immune system attacking the foetus as it grows inside the uterus, fellow audience about that. one of the reasons cancers can escape the immune system, sophie knows more about this, we have all sorts of defence mechanisms to stop the immune system attacking our body and particularly if you have to carry a baby, a baby is only half like you genetically. an alien thing inside you. it is a transplant you have to carry safely for nine months. the mechanisms in the placenta stopping the immune system getting to the baby are exactly the same as some programmes cancer can call on to evade the immune system
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themselves. sophie, iwill call on to evade the immune system themselves. sophie, i will bring call on to evade the immune system themselves. sophie, iwill bring you in in a minute, i want to talk to a dream, skin cancer, one year later, it had spread to many of your organs —— i want to talk to adrian. you were told you had 12 months to live, five years ago, what did they do to you? immune therapy. iwas five years ago, what did they do to you? immune therapy. i was fortunate enough at that time to be offered a trial drug programme. iwas enough at that time to be offered a trial drug programme. i was in birmingham, ijumped at the opportunity, given only a potential 12 months to survive, and from then on, things moved on rather rapidly. fortunately, my body, my immune system, it accepted the trial drug programme. i never really felt ill though we went through an instability where we got the balance right and the drug basically the volume of periodic drugs while body would feel comfortable with. and that was a 12 month programme. we changed that because i believed it
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was explained to me that melanomas are very aggressive, very intelligent cancer, they can potentially outthink the drugs. we we nt potentially outthink the drugs. we went on then to an intravenous drug, andl went on then to an intravenous drug, and i had two successful different intravenous... again, my body accepted it. modern day chemotherapy type drugs, i accepted them quite well, one of the lucky ones. your cancer has shrunk to what? if i dare say, a trace, if i dare say, today i am cancerfree. it say, a trace, if i dare say, today i am cancer free. it is an amazing... i have been two years drug—free, so this was all in the first three years. i have led a very active normal life in the drug periods and certainly now that, you know, i am very fortunate, through people
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around the table today, modern immune therapies, i was on early stages of the immune therapies, as peter has explained, and things are changing. this immunotherapy is the latest frontier in terms of trying to treat cancer. doctor acton, in frontier in terms of trying to treat cancer. doctoracton, in yourwork you are trying to figure out, under this label of immunotherapy, the tricks that cancer cells play so you can unlock those tricks and counter them with brand—new treatments. can unlock those tricks and counter them with brand-new treatments. yes, them with brand-new treatments. yes, the treatments out there that patients are receiving now, as peter described, to take the brakes off so cancer can trick your activated immune cells. even if we had a great vaccine and get to the cancer cells, the cancer can switch them off, so we wa nt the cancer can switch them off, so we want to stop them doing that. that's some of the immunotherapy out there now. but there are lots of
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other tricks and other healthy cells that cancer bring in and change their behaviour and we need to find new ways to design new drugs. there are several issues to unravel. beginning with getting our own selves to recognise cancer cells and tumours. yes, and it is difficult. something like a vaccine against measles, as you suggest, it's a virus, foreign, definitely not a human cell and it's difficult for our immune system to see and attack. it knows it is foreign and can kill it, as it will kill infected cells. cancer comes from the patient's on original healthy cells. while they are different, and we know they are misbehaving and we want to get rid of them, they look much more similar to healthy cells than a virus. so the breakthrough is there, sequencing the genomes to find the sequences and using them for the immune system to recognise and
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destroy those cells. the next issue is getting the cells inside the tumour to fight it. it's more competent than just getting activated immune cells, we need those cells to get into the tumours and find the cells and kill them. that much more complicated. a lot of tumours will going to active surrounding cells and form a kind of scar around them to protect themselves. these are other angles we can take to enhance immunothera py. we can take to enhance immunotherapy. why do healthy cells sometimes go wrong? there are a lot of environmental factors that we have heard about in the news and agencies like cancer research uk, giving us advice on how to avoid them and keep ourselves healthy. fundamentally, the human body has trillions of cells, dividing all the time as we grow and age. every time we defined, we have to make a perfect copy of our whole dna. if you try to do that with trillions of
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sells for 90 years, there will sometimes be mistakes. most of those m ista kes sometimes be mistakes. most of those mistakes are not harmful at all and the cells can cope or die. but sometimes those mistakes happen in key areas and that cell can become cancer. cells going wrong is a natural consequence of us living so much longer? partly, and partly some of the things we do to ourselves, like ultraviolet radiation in the sunshine, smoking cigarettes, being too heavy, and eating diets that are high in saturated fats, all these things increasing the damage and likelihood that some cells will go wrong. but quite a lot of cancer is just down to the play of chance in the genomes. a question i know not like, but i have to ask, we talked about the big clinical trial starting next year and to customise cancer vaccines, so how many years away from that potentially being on
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the market are we? it will take several years to get the trials and understand the results and see if it really works, but it moves incredibly fast, these checkpoint antibodies, cutting the brakes on the immune system, that we use quite widely now, were not even thought of ten years ago. so once you get the information and start to see the results of the trials, things can move results of the trials, things can m ove very results of the trials, things can move very fast, but that's what we have to do. thank you all very much for coming in. some breaking news, a man called neville horde has pleaded guilty at bradford crown court for murdering a supermarket worker, stabbed to death outside and aldi store just before christmas. jody wilshere was stabbed to death in an aldi store in yorkshirejust to death in an aldi store in yorkshire just before christmas. have you ever worked a shift for free? or even lots of shifts?
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with nojob offer at the end of it all? a call to ban unpaid trial shifts is being debated in parliament. we can speak to snp mp stuart mcdonald who is raising the issue in parliament. daniel is a waiter who has done on page trials shift. and on the phone we have james, not his real name, who works in catering and has also done on page shifts and has recruited others to do them. james, why are you doing these unpaid shifts? you do them when you apply for a job. if you want to go for the job and get the job to pay your bills etc. on the other side, we are told as managers within the catering industry to recruit staff and go through the trial process. if you don't follow that then you could end up in disciplinary and stuff like
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that, because you haven't followed company procedure. how often do you give people a job at the end of an on page trials shift? it depends. we recruit kitchen porters, chefs, generally if you get a lot of applicants you will pick the best for thejob. with a kitchen porter, you could get six or seven people applying. why can't you just give somebody a job through the conventional process of looking at their cv and interviewing them? sometimes it's a skill set. we want to make sure they fit in with a team, have the right enthusiasm and stuff like that. that's what we are told by the hate charred apartment, we need to look at that and make sure they fit in. —— by the hr department. we need to make sure they fit in and can do the job. do you think it is fair? i don't. i'm a very unions person. i think it is unfair. ithink very unions person. i think it is unfair. i think people should be paid for what they do. daniel, you
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had three trial shifts forjobs in the past. all of them unpaid. did you get a job at the end of any of them? the third and final trials shift i went to, i was given the job, thank goodness. i was very relieved to be given a job as the previous trial shifts i had done we re previous trial shifts i had done were six hours unpaid, and they said they would get back to me within a week but i never heard from them again. could that be you are not the right person for the job, or do you think they were taking the mick?” think they were taking the mick?” think they were taking the mick. of the two trial shifts i never heard anything again, i had done a face—to—face interview, so they knew my personality. i don't think they had a reason not to get back to me. did you try to contact them and ask what was going on? i did. two of them i tried to ask what was going
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on and! them i tried to ask what was going on and i was met with, sorry, you're not the right candidate for the role. there was no further explanation and they put the phone down on me. how did you feel about that? i was gutted. down on me. how did you feel about that? iwas gutted. i'd that? i was gutted. i'd worked six—hour shifts with the promise, if we think you are the right candidate and you do well on the shift, you will almost certainly get the job, and to have it taken away from you at the end when you have slaved in the restaurant, and they often put you on the busiest time of the week, soi you on the busiest time of the week, so i was on you on the busiest time of the week, sonas ona you on the busiest time of the week, so i was on a saturday night, working six hours with the promise ofajob, working six hours with the promise of a job, but it wasn't to be. stuart mcdonald, snp mp. there is nothing illegal about asking a worker to do a voluntary trials shift, is there? as the law stands at the minute, i think it needs to be fixed. in 20 years of the national minimum wage act, there hasn't been a single place, a single tribunal, fine, ticking off, naming and shaming, nothing. in 20 years of the act, against the use of an
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unpaid trials shift. my bill proposes to amend the national minimum wage act to make it crystal clear that the cases your callers have explained this morning will be outlawed. smaller businesses in particular rely on these kinds of things as part of a recruitment process. they absolutely have to get the right personality in a small business. they absolutely do, and this isn't about banning the practice of trialling people. nobody would wish to do that. this is about unpaid trial shifts and the miserable, cynical exploitation that almost always seems to accompany them. it's aggravated by the fact your first call this morning can't even use his own name, so ashamed people in the industry of them, because he is forced to because of his bosses. i would say to businesses, employment law is currently so heavily stacked in favour of the ploy, why not put people on probation periods, as is normal in almost every other mainstream work? the people who
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suffer here are the lowest paid, and people who often don't know their rights in order to stand up for them. my bill brings in the protections to make sure people can't be exploited. that where they are offered a trial they are paid at least the minimum weight. i think thatis least the minimum weight. i think that is good for business. let me read a message, a tweet, i have worked in bars before and been management before. i have been told by higher up people to give trials shift to people with not a chance of getting a job, just because it was an understaffed weekend.” getting a job, just because it was an understaffed weekend. i hear that an understaffed weekend. i hear that a lot. and can you think of a more cynical practice, and can you imagine if that was your first introduction to the world of work? often people covering sicknesses or holidays of other staff members and being strung along. often working long hours, without a job to give them at the end of it. it's time for parliament to put an end to it, that's what my bill does and i hope mps will back it tomorrow. james, do you agree that trials shift is fine,
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but paid a person. would you like to see that in law? yes, i would. i think it's fair because they are giving up theirtime think it's fair because they are giving up their time coming in. i think it's all about fairness. in my 25 years of working in the catering industry, just the way they treat lower paid industry, just the way they treat lower pa id staff industry, just the way they treat lower paid staff is quite bad. i believe this is another thing they use, being told, bring people in on busy shifts when you have lots of functions going on in your hotel. bring in people so you don't have to pay that on your labour budget. thank you, james. thank you to daniel, and continued success with yourjob. and daniel, and continued success with your job. and thank daniel, and continued success with yourjob. and thank you to stuart mcdonald as well. thank you for your company today. have a good day, we will be back tomorrow at 9am. thank you for watching. for some there has been a fair bit
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of rain in the last 24 hours, 50 millimetres in parts of northern ireland. the rain started to clear north and east with sunshine coming in behind and a few heavy and thundery showers and eventually the rain clearing north—east through the day. the north—east of scotland will stay largely dry but it is windy and cool stay largely dry but it is windy and cool. further south, some sunshine and on the mild side, 11—13dc. staying windy in northern scotland and down the east coast of england. snow on higher ground. a band of rain pushing in from the south—west and across wales. temperatures overnight between three and seven celsius. colder air coming overnight between three and seven celsius. colderair coming in to scotla nd celsius. colderair coming in to scotland with the risk of ice tomorrow morning and snow over higher ground. it could come down to lower levels through the afternoon and affect parts of northern england. further south, another day of sunshine and showers. they could be heavy and thundery with some hail thrown in. holding onto milder conditions in the south but still cold further north and everywhere turning colder by the weekend. this is bbc news,
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