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powers are also lining up. the secretary—general of nato giving strong support for theresa may and their position. how deep does this consensus go, reacting to russia? is everybody going to hold the line? what we have got is better than what we were expecting, france overnight, an agent phone call this morning between theresa may and emmanuel macron. they have the words of solidarity. they got the fact that they are agreeing that russia is culpable and this is an act on sovereign soil. this is important. what we haven't got, and what was partly missing from theresa may's statement, is what we are going to do about it. they can condemn, but is that as far as it goes? the show of solidarity is going to be
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welcome. even though we have a difficult relationship with the united states, even though we are leaving the european union, we still have these international ties. do we need to go further in terms of can we get sanctions, allies in europe, very importa nt‘s we get sanctions, allies in europe, very important's i mean, for the next year we have to do this, he is still the foreign policy organ of which we are part? it is, to an extent, although we also have nato and the americans. previously, the litvinenko killing, there was relu cta nce litvinenko killing, there was reluctance among some of european partners to take action. since then, we have had the crimea and ukraine, much more vigorous action is being taken. the story today, the americans have unveiled fresh sanctions relating to interference in their election. there is already
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quite a lot of sanctions in place against russians. i think the first problem is to identify exactly who to add to any sanctions list, and the second problem is, after you have done that, to identify whether those people then have international consensus those people then have international consensus to support that. that will potentially take a little bit of time, because it is not a straightforward thing. we have got to operate reasonably, within the rule of law, and find a proper justification for imposing sanctions. the justification could well come out of the sort of stories that the daily telegraph has on the front page, the nerve agent planted in the daughter's suitcase? she had come to visit dad from her home in russia. what do you make of that?” problem is that i am not a professor of chemicals, and not an expert. i am not up on the dark arts of
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assassination. i don't know how this would work. this is a highly toxic agent that they have used, novichok. visit transportable? so, you plant it in the suitcase. that is it transportable. possibly you put it ina transportable. possibly you put it in a cosmetic, did then know she was going to go to this location, coogee open it earlier? anybody could be harmed by that. it seems a very imprecise way of trying to take out oi’ imprecise way of trying to take out or attempt to take out your attempted target. it does not stack up attempted target. it does not stack upfor attempted target. it does not stack up for me. there are all sorts of theories we could speculate on. maybe this is the one the telegraph has chosen to go with. the truth is that we don't know and there has beena that we don't know and there has been a wall of silence from the police and intelligence agency soufces police and intelligence agency sources about the detailed investigation in this particular circumstance. part of that is understandable because they want to identify exactly who the culprits
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are. they don't want publicity necessarily getting in the way of it. it makes it difficult to stand up exactly what has happened. the telegraph says intelligence agencies how telegraph says intelligence agencies now believe, it seems to have senior soufces now believe, it seems to have senior sources telling it that, it may turn out to be correct or may not be. does that, in some ways, just fired the apparent caution ofjeremy corbyn, picked up on the front of the guardian, and appears to have caused such pranksters among his mps? saying, yes, we can go for russia, but we need to follow where the evidence leads? —— caused such consternation. there seems to be a contradiction at the heart of the article. as you said, the wounds within the labour party were quite dramatically reopened by the response. a lot of his mps are on the same page in terms of domestic policies, but they have this big ru ptu re policies, but they have this big
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rupture with the leadership on foreign policy in particular. what he hasn't done is try to heal those wounds in any way. that is quite interesting. pressure, even from his defence secretary, shadow defence secretary, saying it was russia and we have to follow... yes, and the contradiction was that he was saying yes, it is right we expel diplomats, it is right we take tough action, but i'm still not convinced it was necessarily the kremlin behind this. that is what is causing such an —— angst. distrust of the security sources, for understandable reasons because we got it wrong on iraq and the weapons of mass destruction. secondly, because it is, in terms of national security, is he being seen as weak on this? it could play badly
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with labour supporters in traditional areas. i'm sure it will do. the difference between this article and the daily telegraph's claim about how it happened, the porton down scientists have identified it as a particular nerve agent that was manufactured in russia, could only have come from there, according to these people, they are not actually the intelligence agencies, they are something different. i think we got to have faith in what their conclusion is. if that is the case, there are two scenarios, but even there are two scenarios, but even the most generous one is that the russians have lost control, and if not them, they are showing contempt, a lack of desire to cooperate and explain the circumstances. the nerve agent story takes up almost three quarters of the front page of the space available on the guardian, we also have theresa may receiving flowers in salisbury. this other story, which might have got a bigger treatment from the guardian, this is the hsbc, seeming to be the worst
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offender in terms of the gender pay gap? so far! it is quite a tough race at the moment. the bbc did quite good running, then we got itn, even worse. and trinity mirror has come in, not as bad as itn, and then hsbc seems to be determined to take the crown of the worst possible gap, quite remarkable, considering that banks probably had the money to do this. there should be able to do something to close the gap. this is an interesting story, if we go back to the ft. the unilever moved to rotterdam. it seemed an obvious one for pro and anti brexit forces to lock horns over, but it's not as simple as that? the ft has had a go at it, theresa may, herb brexit row of business as usual has been dented, they say. unilever have said
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it is nothing to do with brexit. it seems to be more to do with takeover rules and so on. secondly, there we re rules and so on. secondly, there were some fairly apocalyptic warnings from unilever before the referendum about serious consequences if we voted to leave. in this case, although there is a significant thing happening, in that the headquarters is moving, the joint headquarters is moving to rotterdam, at the same time...m joint headquarters is moving to rotterdam, at the same time... it is the managers and book—keepers but not the makers? the jobs are staying here, and unilever says it is manufacturing two main things... marmite still being made in britain. you can have the same... you can't have both things on the same sandwich. doesn't appear to be brexit related. they start reporting about corporate taxes, going to the netherlands instead of britain. i
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think brexit is a subsidiary factor. we will pass over the google story, a p pa re ntly we will pass over the google story, apparently they are spending tens of millions of pounds on think tanks that baggott policies, not perhaps hugely surprising, that is what companies do. the most intriguing thing of all, it is a long time since i saw thing of all, it is a long time since i sanfk on the front of a british newspaper, why? they have recreated a speech he would have given before he was shot with technology. this is where he was going when he was shot? they have managed, through combat engineering and so on, to analyse his speeches from before and recreate his work pattern, basically give this speech. this is a fascinating piece of historical re—enactment. you now have this ability to actually create a video of a politician, a serving politician, getting them to say
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whatever you want. the fake news, the disinformation... in elections. misleading the public, you have these things go viral on the internet, it is very, very high. i can also see the downside, while i like this. on the upside, are there people that are recent enough, that there will be film and video of them, that you would like to hear speaking again? yes, there will be, of course. that would be absolutely fascinating. i tend to agree with you, the dangers of it probably greater in the modern era of fake news spreading. first, the famous speech, the body of a man... that was actually written after she said it. all of my illusions are being shattered. jason and martin, thank
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you both very much. pleasure to have you both very much. pleasure to have you with us. that is all from the papers tonight. you can see the front pages online as soon as we get them on the bbc news website. it is all there for you, seven days a week. if you missed the programme, you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you martin bentham and jason beattie. goodbye. the weather is next. just time to bring you up to date with where we are across the british isles for the next couple of days. today was really very much about where you were in relation to the weather fronts, which are churning around as big area of low pressure. at the moment it is the predominant feature in the weather. we have had one weather front close by, central and eastern parts of scotland, snow across higher ground and the front trailing away down the eastern shores. a lot of cloud around overnight and summaries as well. not
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a particularly cold night. that is not the only weather front on the scene for friday. another one coming into the eastern side of northern ireland, pushing up through wales and into the north—west of england. winteriness and showers across the top end of the pennines. the bulk of the snow will be found further north. any good news about friday? yes. after a cloudy staff across southern part there could be a good deal of sunshine come the afternoon. maybe one or two showers here. i think you ramp up the chances of seeing some wet weather as you get further north. the eastern side of northern ireland, across the pennines, into the eastern and central parts of scotland. the snow continues to fall. there is pretty cold air moving away from scandinavia, into the north—eastern quarter of scotland. it doesn't stay there. as we get through the night, into the first part of the weekend, notice how the night—time temperatures are falling away. a widespread frost to start the weekend. the weekend is very much marked by the influence of high
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pressure over scandinavia. forget about the low and the atlantic. it is that area of high pressure which will feed in some cold air, markedly colder than anything any of us have seen over the past few days. as a consequence, there will be snow showers in the forecast, primarily across eastern parts. and i don't doubt for a moment that some of the snow will get across to the welsh margins as well. because of the strength of the wind, no more 12, 13 or “i, strength of the wind, no more 12, 13 or 1a, it will feel like —50 minus six degrees. saturday and sunday, there is some concern. we think development will add the showers together to give a longer spell of snow, we think. just how far north that comes into the british isles, we're not sure at the moment. it will eventually pull away, leaving us will eventually pull away, leaving us with a bitterly cold day across all parts of british isles. this is bbc news. i'm shaun ley. the headlines at 11: theresa may visits salisbury for the first time since the poisoning of a former russian spy, as france, germany and the united statesjoin britain to condemn the attack. rescuers in miami try and reach
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people trapped under a bridge that collapsed on a highway in florida. several are known to be seriously injured. tests on a fire door from grenfell tower show it was far less fla me— resista nt than what it was claimed to be. and on newsnight, we speak to the exiled russian oligarch who tells us he believes putin has lost control of the russian state.
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