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hello, it's friday, it's nine o'clock. i'm chloe tilley — welcome to the programme. in an exclusive interview, double oscar winning actor cate blanchett talks to us about her trip to bangladesh to meet rohingya refugees living in shocking conditions. i was unprepared for how many unaccompanied children there are. i mean, over half the people in these camps, temporary settlements, are children under the age of 18 who don't know where their parents are and who have witnessed the most unspeakable atrocities. you can watch that full interview with cate blanchett at around quarter past nine. we'll hear from the family of anna campbell — the young british woman killed last week in syria. we'll bring you new footage of the 26 year old, who travelled there to fight alongside kurdish forces. my name is helin qerecox. my name from before was anna campbell. ijoined the ypj in march of last year and now i've just finished, we've just finished this education of ideology and military. british police have repeatedly warned against travelling to syria, saying anyone becoming involved with any armed group could be prosecuted.
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we'll have a full report after ten. and more than 2,500 cancer cases a week are caused by lifestyle choices. we'll ask what more needs to be done to encourage people to live healthier lives. hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. have you ever used an online gp service because you couldn't get an appointment at the doctors? a new report says four out of ten online gp firms in england aren't providing safe care to patients. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning — use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today — the european union has recalled its ambassador to russia, in a show of solidarity with britain following the nerve agent
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attack in salisbury. the rare move comes after eu leaders‘ meeting at a summit in brussels agreed it was "highly likely" that moscow was responsible for the poisoning. speaking this morning, theresa may gave her reaction to the news. i welcomed the agreement last night from the eu council that they accepted, they agreed the united kingdom government's assessment that russia, it was highly likely that russia was responsible for the attempted murder that took place on the streets of salisbury and that there was no plausible alternative explanation. damian is in brussels. how
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significant is this move quiz—macli think it is pretty important, and it went further than anyone had expected. the response from the european side appears to have been partly in relation to the evidence, the arguments that theresa may made during the dinner, which other leaders arriving here this morning said were persuasive about the conclusions about russian involvement in the attempted assassination in salisbury. we understand that big countries like france and germany argued in favour ofa france and germany argued in favour of a tough response, ireland also—mac made that case. we're hearing today also—mac that other eu countries, some of them, are considering taking their own measures, also potentially expelling russian diplomats if they believe they are spies. we may well see that
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in the coming week or so from some countries. romania was mentioned, the czech republic, possibly places like poland, looking at that sort of thing. now the focus will start to move here today onto the subject of brexit. theresa may will have to exit and quit the discussions when they move on, because the other 27 leaders will now a little bit later this morning review the progress made so far in the negotiations. they should, which will be welcome to the uk, give approval to the outline agreements, the broadbrush agreements reached so far on the uk exit and transition, then they will sign off also—mac on the eu's negotiating strategy, its broad approach to the future relationship with the uk. that's the next phase of these talks, the all—important trade talks, future relationship
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talks that the uk has been keen to get on to from the start. the eu should give the green light to that in the coming hours. thank you, damian. damien bringing that update us damian. damien bringing that update us from brussels. we can now cross lied to the british embassy in moscow and speak to our correspondence, sarah raynsford, who is keeping an eye on the uk diplomats preparing to leave after being expelled or have already left quiz—mac being expelled or have already left quiz- mac well, being expelled or have already left quiz-mac well, yes, we have seen a number of vehicles this morning heading into the embassy compound to collect the diplomats who are being expelled. of course, the members of theirfamily who expelled. of course, the members of their family who have expelled. of course, the members of theirfamily who have been expelled. of course, the members of their family who have been living here with them. we understand that the ist minibus has left the compound already. people clapping la—mac as those ist british diplomats and their families were driven away towards the airport. a total of around about 50 people, we understand, who are being forced to leave russia. that is 23 diplomats
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and family members. all their belongings and a number of family pets that have had arrangements made for them also—mac. it is a major event for the british embassy here, something that the british government said it regrets deeply. as for the russian reaction to what is happening, this is a mirror measure to the 23 russian diplomats expeued measure to the 23 russian diplomats expelled from the uk and who came back here to russia earlier this week. in terms of the whole case, russia is continuing to insist that there is no evidence for state involvement in what happened in salisbury, and it is pushing that line very consistently and co nsta ntly, line very consistently and constantly, saying that the efforts now by the british government to rally european leaders to the british cause are deeply worrying for russia, not because it accepts any kind of culpability but because it says that european countries are being forced in a frenzied way into making these decisions, coming out in support of the uk despite what
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russia says is a lack of evidence. i don't think there is deep concern yet about the kind of solidarity thatis yet about the kind of solidarity that is beginning to form in the european union, but certainly, russia is sticking to its guns and saying they had nothing to do with this and demanding to see the evidence. it is a familiar pattern from russia and it is playing out in this case. sarah raynsford speaking live from moscow. let's get the rest of the news with the need. nearly a0 percent of all cancers diagnosed in the uk every year could be avoided if people adopted a healthier lifestyle — that's more than i35—thousand cases. the study conducted by "cancer research uk" also warns that obesity could overtake smoking as the biggest cause of the disease. here's more from our health
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correspondent, dominic hughes. exercise has always been an important part of caffe's life, but this... she felt the extra weight she was carrying was a factor and is decided to make changes in her life. i have 6 grandchildren, and to be around for them and my children, they have been a lot ofjoy, and the thought of not being able to grow up alongside them and seeing them achieving what they want to achieve, it just achieving what they want to achieve, itjust made sense to do something. the latest data on cancer shows that smoking is responsible for more than 54,000 smoking is responsible for more than 5a,000 cancer cases each year. 22,000 people are diagnosed with 13 types of cancer linked to obesity. skin cancer affects more than 13,000 people. we would hope that we will continue to see smoking rates coming down. they have been coming down at around 1% per year, so hopefully
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that trend will continue if not accelerate. sadly, we are not seeing accelerate. sadly, we are not seeing a turnaround in obesity related activity now or obesity related cancer, so activity now or obesity related cancer, so clearly, the expectation would be, if we did this again in 7 yea rs, would be, if we did this again in 7 years , we would be, if we did this again in 7 years, we would see those two getting closer together as risk factors for cancer. a healthy diet and more exercise have left calf feeling better than ever. today's report is further evidence that following her example could reduce the risk of cancer for all of us. china's embassy in washington says it's disappointed by president trump's announcement that he plans to impose tariffs worth tens of billions of pounds on chinese imports. the he said the duties were necessary, and a retaliation for years of unfair competition from beijing. the new york stock exchange closed down almost three per cent in the wake of the news. president trump has sacked his
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national security adviser for the 2nd time in14 national security adviser for the 2nd time in 1a months. john bolton will be the new national security adviser. he has backed attacks on iran and north korea. the royal college of gps said the findings of a study were very concerning, suggesting that gps were not... mps have called on ministers not to approve a third runway at heathrow airport —— unless there are new safeguards on air quality and noise. the commons transport select committee said there was a case to expand heathrow, but that clarity was needed on a variety of issues, including airport charges. the metropolitan police has apologised, after two officers posed for a selfie at a crime scene and posted it online. some twitter users criticised the photo,
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which was taken outside a shopping centre in east london where a man was murdered. scotland yard said the officers would be reminded how to use social media responsibly. australian rescuers are racing against time to save 15 short—finned pilot whales after more than 150 of the migrating mammals were found stranded at hamelin bay in western australia. it's thought most of the whales have died. while the mammals regularly get stranded on the coastal strip, migrating between antarctic feeding grounds in the south, and the warmer northern waters where they raise their young, a number this large is unusual. very sad... that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. let's get some sport... lots of people looking ahead to the
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world cup, england's preparations for the bid is being held in russia. how much is the build up being affected by the tensions between the uk and russia? the tensions and the language between britain and russia are very much overshadowing the preparations for the world cup. the press conferences that precede the matches that are the preparations for the world cup... they continue tonight with a friendly against the netherlands tonight. gareth southgate says he has no concern about the safety of his squad in russia for the tournament. he said if he was a fan he would go as things stand. there are political issues to deal with in the background, but also fears that england players and fans might suffer racist abuse in russia. it has been a problem there in the past. southgate says it needs to be addressed closer to home as well.|j
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don't think we should just talk about racism in russia. you know, we have to get our own house in order. there are things going on in our country that aren't correct around racism. we keep pointing the finger at russia, where we will be guests in the next couple of months, but we haven't resolved the issue in our own country but up until we do, i think we should stop firing of those things elsewhere. clearly a wider issue to be dealt with in the uk, but southgate mentioning specifically later in that press conference some of the racist abuse that he has seen that was suffered by3 that he has seen that was suffered by 3 england under 16 players in particular. in fact, by 3 england under 16 players in particular. infact, he by 3 england under 16 players in particular. in fact, he called it disgusting, so clearly he thinks that there are issues to discuss, not only in russia but also here in the uk. let's focus on some of the positive work on the field. let's talk about gareth bale and how important he is to wales. he is not the 1st player to feel the weight of
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expectation, but he carries the burden well. he has been long been wales's superstar but he is now their record goalscorer, dealing in fine style with a hat—trick yesterday, helping ryan giggs to win his 1st game in charge. it was 6— 0. he got the 1st, as you just saw, after 2 minutes. he got the 2nd and the 6th, overtaking ian rush‘s record. wales have a promising squad for ryan giggs the lead, but gareth bale will definitely be a huge part of it as well. he lives at -- he lifts everyone because he has that extractor. he could lift any team in the world. the opposition recognise that as well. it makes them think differently. he is so important to us. differently. he is so important to us. you saw out there today, he is a cut above everyone else out on the pitch. incredible. so, to break that re cord pitch. incredible. so, to break that record speaks for itself. obviously, he will have know that he can get
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more and more and make sure that that record stands for a long time. just to finish the international football theme. in the last 10 minutes or so, fever and announced the new rankings for women's trouble. england are in 2nd place, the highest they have ever been. they have replaced germany. a hugely successful tea m they have replaced germany. a hugely successful team over the years, but phil neville's team up to 2nd, just behind the usa in the rankings. we will end on a positive note. she's one of hollywood's biggest actors, with two oscars under her belt. now cate blanchett is using her position in the spotlight to highlight the plight of rohinga refugees. she's just returned from a visit to the refugee camps in bangladesh — where hundreds of thousands of rohingas are living after fleeing fighting in neighbouring myanmar. in an exclusive interview, chi chi izundu went to meet her to talk about what she found at the camps. hello, hi.
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nice to meet you. thank you. i returned from bangladesh a few days ago with unhcr, the un refugee agency. i'm an ambassador for them and i have been to lebanon and jordan, i've been to the camps injordan, and obviously knowing the enormity of the rohingya crisis since august last year, over 670,000 souls have passed, have suffered incredible atrocities and have gone into bangladesh, one of the poorest countries in the world, so i knew that it was incredible but i don't think anything had prepared me for just the fragility and precariousness of this situation. because their situation, so many people have arrived in such a short space of time, their dwellings are incredibly temporary. they are living in untenable
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situations on literally mounds of dust, as the monsoon season approaches that are mudslides waiting to happen. i think as a mother i was unprepared for how many unaccompanied children there are. i mean over half the people in these camps, temporary settlements, are children under the age of 18 who don't know where their parents are and who have witnessed the most unspeakable atrocities. their siblings being thrown into fires. one girl i sat with in a women's centre had seen her three—year—old brother thrown into a fire and her elder brother being dismembered and shot in front of her and had tojust keep running. girls who have been raped, often repeatedly, it is unspeakable suffering. and as the monsoon approaches, the level of anxiety about their physical situation is once again, it's a disaster
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waiting to happen within a disaster. describe for an audience who are in the comfort of a western home, who would never know what running from a war like that would be like. i met one woman who was 18 and holding her one—year—old child and she had been in the forest. she had escaped because her village had been burned and her husband was taken away by the military. she doesn't know where he is. and so she fled because women around her, there were reports of rapes and she had a young child. and she survived for six months in the forest eating the interior of a banana plant. when i met her in the camp the other day, she had only been there for a matter of weeks, and she is the embodiment of that vulnerability. she is ripe for exploitation. there are reports we hear
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about prostitution in the camps or women who are unable to support themselves being taken away into enforced labour. it is really terrifying. do you think governments around the world, who have been criticised in the past for not doing enough quick enough, are recognising this crisis within a crisis? well, it's the fastest—growing refugee crisis. i mean there are refugee crises all over the world, you know, 65 million people displaced around the world, there is not a bigger crisis facing us as a species. but i think what i witnessed was extraordinary generosity of the bangladesh government and the host communities. you know, they have kept their borders open and this is a country that is one of the poorest countries in the world, one of the wettest countries in the world, you know, the monsoon is approaching. and i think that that is a real example for other governments to keep their financial support as well as the in—kind
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support they give. and organisations like unhcr, i think there is often a misconception that ‘the un, very well funded organisation', but they have to raise every single penny to provide the blankets, to provide the tarpaulin, to provide the food and the shelter and the medical care that these refugees so urgently need. as well as the rains coming, what are the other issues that you discovered when you went there that people are genuinely terrified of? well, they have suffered and fled from unspeakable atrocities. but there was one woman i met in the unhcr transit centre. she had literally just arrived with her children. once again, her husband was killed in front of her and she was, her face was very disfigured because she had been beaten by the myanmar military as she fled. and i said to her, "what is the thing that is most
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worrying you at the moment?" and she said, "i'm not worried at the moment because it's the first time in so many months that no one has been shooting at me." but i think the thing that is really worrying people at the moment is the monsoon. can we explore that a bit further? so the monsoon itself will bring rains and landslides. what other things are they worried about, concerned about? because of the enormous influx, i mean, where they are living at the moment in kutupalong camp and all of the surrounding temporary places that they're living that the bangladeshi government has so generously provided the space for them to be in, people should not be living there in the first place. they are hillsides that have been denuded of the trees that have kept the land together, in order to make room for the massive influx of all of these souls who have arrived. and so nothing is holding the hillsides together. so as soon as one or two rains come, the latrines that hundreds of people are using are going to slide off
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into the dwellings. so there is dysentery, there is cholera waiting to outbreak and there is nowhere else for these people to go. you said you are a mother, we know that. yes. how did you describe your trip to your children? when i went tojordan i took our then nine—year—old, and it was a real eye—opener for him to see how little these people had but yet how generous they were. when i was in the camp injordan there was a family who had fled, there was a young boy there who was not able to play soccer with my son. and my son said, "why doesn't he play soccer with me?" and i said, "darling, he can't walk properly because he's got shrapnel in his leg because of the shelling that had gone on." and you could see my son realise. and i think it's important to tell those stories to children. but yet they are all children,
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there is no difference between those children and my children except that i happened to be born in a slightly safer environment than they do. so what would you like people to actually do? because the need is so great, people can donate. because of course we have seen in other refugee crises that if the neighbouring countries are left to their own devices it is unsustainable. yesterday it was announced that the harvey weinstein company was going into bankruptcy and that they were abolishing all of the nondisclosure agreements they have made employees, people who had worked under them, sign. is that a step forward in the time's up movement? i think there has been not only in the industry that i work in, but in every single industry there has been a systematic, you know, and unexamined inequalities and abuses that have gone on.
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i think it's really important to discuss this. i think that's why the discussion has been so volcanic because people have sat on these things for so long. i think honestly is always the best policy. transparency is always the best policy. so dylan farrow has actually criticised actresses and actors who have worked with her father, woody allen, who does deny allegations of sexual misconduct about himself. how do you feel about that criticism ? you know, when i worked with woody i knew nothing about what had gone on, and subsequent to that there has been — obviously there has been allegations that have gone through the court. and i think it's always difficult to talk about those things, the people who have been victims of abuse or perceived abuse. but i'm also a big believer in the justice system and i think the justice system is an incredibly important arm to a functioning democracy, so these cases need to be reopened,
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i wholeheartedly support those things going back into court. the met police has apologised after two officers took a selfie at a murder scene and posted it on social media. uniformed officers from newham, east london, took the photo outside the stratford centre shopping centre on thursday, where a man had been stabbed and killed two days before. let's talk to our correspondent, jane—frances kelly, whojoins me now. just explain the background to what happened ? we know that yesterday they posted this twitter selfie. and they captioned it, "crime scene at bradford mole today." it has been taken down bradford mole today." it has been ta ken down now. bradford mole today." it has been taken down now. there has been a strong reaction from people condemning it. one person says, "why are my local police posting selfies from a murder scene? "
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have you caught the perpetrators yet? of course not. too busy posing for a selke. the met have been left red—faced by this. they have apologised for any offence caused. "the officers showed a lack of judgment and sensitivity in posting this, and they will be spoken to and reminded of how to use social media responsibly." all of reminded of how to use social media responsibly. " all of this reminded of how to use social media responsibly." all of this comes against the background of a rise in knife crime? couldn't have come at a worse time. assistant commissioner martin hewitt gave an interview to the ten o'clock news on wednesday, the ten o'clock news on wednesday, the day before, saying he was extremely concerned by the rise in stabbings. 26 since the beginning of the year. nhs figures show that
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between april 2017, and january 2018, there was a 14% increase. so really, i think senior officers in the matter will be having a very good talk with these officers. thank you. still to come... asa as a new cancer study finds more than a third of all cases are avoidable, we will be looking at what simple changes you can make your everyday life. and it's been a turbulent week facebook. we will discuss what the future holds as the social media giant prepares to with advertisers. time for the latest news. here's annita with the bbc news headlines this morning. the european union has taken the rare step of recalling its ambassador to russia, following the nerve agent attack in salisbury. in a show of solidarity with britain comes a show of solidarity with britain co m es after a show of solidarity with britain comes after eu leaders agreed it was
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highly likely that moscow was responsible for the poisoning. meanwhile, british diplomats in russia started leaving the embassy in moscow ahead of tomorrow pots deadline. —— tomorrow's. 23 diplomats have been given a week to leave in response to britain's decision to expel the same number of diplomats following the nerve agent attack in salisbury. nearly 40% of all cancers diagnosed in the uk could be avoided if people adopted a healthier lifestyle, according to a new study. cancer research uk says 135,000 cases every year are preve nta ble. 135,000 cases every year are preventable. the charity is also warning obesity could eventually overta ke warning obesity could eventually overtake smoking is the biggest cause of the disease. china's embassy in washington says it is disappointed by president trump's announcement that it plans to impose ta riffs announcement that it plans to impose tariffs worth tens of millions of pounds on chinese imports. he says the duties are necessary and retaliation three years of unfair competition from beijing. markets
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across asia have fallen sharply following the announcement at —— over fears of a possible trade war. the health regulator has warned that fourin the health regulator has warned that four in ten online gp firms in england are providing safe care. —— are not providing. there were problems with prescribing drugs and carrying out checks on patients. the royal college of gps say the findings concerning. nearly all of the 150 whales stranded in western australia have died, despite efforts to save them. a mission by the authorities and volunteers is still under way to try to save six of the wails. pilate whales are prone to stranding. that is a summary of the latest bbc news. after england were wiped out on day 1. after england were wiped out on day 1, the 2nd day of the 1st test against new zealand more of a
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washout. the leader of the black capsis washout. the leader of the black caps is now 171. they added 5a runs the day. that was all that was possible. kane williamson completed a record 80th test century for his country. gareth southgate said that britain should get its house in order before accusing other countries of racism. the england boss says he has seen disgusting behaviour closer to home. england's women are up behaviour closer to home. england's women are up to 2nd in the latest fifa rankings, higher than ever before, replacing germany but still behind world champions the usa. lewis hamilton was quickest in his mercedes in both practice sessions for the opening grand prix of the season for the opening grand prix of the season in australia. red bull and ferrari were both pretty close behind. more than 2,500 cancer cases a week could be avoided if people made better lifestyle choices. that's according to a study by cancer research uk. they want to raise awareness about the positive steps that people can take to reduce their individual risk of getting the disease,
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and lobby the government for better targeted public health messages. smoking is still the biggest preventable cause of cancer despite the continued decline in smoking rates, but the charity wants to see the problem of obesity tackled in the same way. let's ta ke let's take a look at some of the greatest risks and how we can avoid them. let's talk now to sarah williams. she's health information manager at cancer research uk. mandy parker had cervical cancer in 2015 — she says her diagnosis made her rethink some lifestyle choices. is justine shielsjoins us from liverpool. she was diagnosed with skin cancer at 30 years old after using sunbeds. thank you forjoining us this morning. christine, iwant thank you forjoining us this morning. christine, i want to speak to you 1st of all. you were
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diagnosed with skin cancer at 30. yes, early 30s i was diagnosed with it. i had used sunbeds for many yea rs it. i had used sunbeds for many years and had gone abroad. i probably started to notice changes in my skin in my early 30s but was initially diagnosed at 35. at that point, did you draw a link between the use of sunbeds and going on holidays? no, because obviously back 1011 years ago there wasn't any awareness 01’ 1011 years ago there wasn't any awareness or anything that made me think that sunbeds would be an issue. had i known what i know now, i would never have continued to use them. i thought i had used some protection, but now i know it is not the right thing... rather, it is not the right thing... rather, it is not the right thing... rather, it is not the right way to be using sun protection. i want to bring you in, mandy, because i know that when you
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we re mandy, because i know that when you were diagnosed with cervical cancer, it made you make some different lifestyle choices. it did. i wasn't particularly unhealthy, but since i have been diagnosed and in remission now, it is about making choices that give you better odds. healthy which... eating maintains a healthy body weight, staying active reduces stress levels, so i have thought about it in a different light since i had cancer. before you had cancer, we re i had cancer. before you had cancer, were you aware of what could be the trigger is, what you could avoid and what you could do to try to stay healthy? not necessarily. the big1 is smoking and i have never been a smoker anyway, i suppose was... you just eat what you like. i am a busy mum, andl just eat what you like. i am a busy mum, and i think i have made different choices now. i don't think there was enough about healthy eating and the risks of obesity in relation to cancer. i think more
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needs to be done and i am more aware of it now. attending screening if you are offered it for cervical cancer. sarah tell me a little bit more about what you found in this study. everyone knows smoking can lead to cancer, but the obesity finding is quite interesting as well, isn't it? yes. smoking is causing about 16% of cases in the uk, but there is good news hidden in there in that we have seen a fall in smoking rates and a slight drop in the number of cases of cancer caused by smoking in the uk, so i think there is a positive message that prevention works and by changing behaviour and government information it can have an effect on cancer rates. but that then leads onto the story is not being so rosy in other areas. of the city we are seeing now is the biggest cause of can't ——
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cause of cancer. there are things that people can do — eating a healthy diet and being more active. as mandy says, we are busy, we have to look after kids and we have work to look after kids and we have work tojuggle. the government to look after kids and we have work to juggle. the government should set it up and make the healthy choice easierfor it up and make the healthy choice easier for everyone. mandy, do you think that that message about the link between cancer and obesity is getting through? i think it is starting to get through. i am more aware of that. i think i am very cancer aware since i aware of that. i think i am very cancer aware since i have had it. i am more aware of it now, but i think it is the government to give better education from a younger age and to make healthy food slightly cheaper for people. people go for the easier option. the fast food seems inexpensive, yet the healthy options for some people, ithink inexpensive, yet the healthy options for some people, i think the cost needs to be reduced. justin, would you agree that the message is not that clear on obesity and the links
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to cancer? absolutely. i don't think people... i fully... to cancer? absolutely. i don't think people... ifully... i to cancer? absolutely. i don't think people... i fully... i agree with health and well— being. people... i fully... i agree with health and well—being. i think people do need to be made aware about obesity and the benefits of exercise and healthy eating, so i think we do need a major push on this. ijust wonder think we do need a major push on this. i just wonder how much think we do need a major push on this. ijust wonder how much of think we do need a major push on this. i just wonder how much of this is about education and how much is about us taking personal responsibility and saying, even if we don't necessarily know there is a link between obesity and cancer, we know that being obese is not good for us, not healthy. do you agree, justin, orami for us, not healthy. do you agree, justin, oram i being harsh?” for us, not healthy. do you agree, justin, or am i being harsh? i do agree andl justin, or am i being harsh? i do agree and i think there's lots of things. ijust think that if we look after ourselves, our bodies look after ourselves, our bodies look after us, after ourselves, our bodies look afterus, andl after ourselves, our bodies look after us, and i think from an early e, after us, and i think from an early age, if we are educated... i did loads of pe and went on to do keep fit. sadly, for me, my type of
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cancer was easily avoidable, but there are other illnesses that can be avoided through obesity, and i think we need to make children aware that they need to enjoy that type of thing because it can have a positive effect in years to come. mandy? i totally agree as well. i think that people naturally think of... and myself included, i think, obesity is more heart and diabetes related. it is time to push that it can be cancer related as well, and a better education from a young age about the risks of diabetes, heart disease and cancer that can all be linked with obesity. it is changing the way people are educated, i think. sarah, do you think this is about the government getting involved? people get fed up when the government says, you should do this, and then sometimes that changes. you should drink wine or not, you should or
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shouldn't eat red meat. it can be confusing. it can be are conflicting messages, particularly in the media and on the internet. one thing i would say about the cancer research uk figures is that we have pasted on robust evidence and we have only put links between risk factors that have been determined by international organisations like the who. we're not going to get that flip—flopping. this is very robust evidence and statistics. going back to the question about it being to do with awareness of personal responsibility, i would say that things need to start from awareness. people need to know what the risks are so people need to know what the risks are so they can make their own decision. for example, that is why cancer research uk are running the obesity awareness campaign now, to show the link between weight and cancer. we are doing that because our research shows that only 15% of the uk public are aware that there
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isa the uk public are aware that there is a link. if people don't know about it is they don't have the option to act on. it is about getting people to know the information so they can make choices for themselves and so that they can look at what the government is doing. we're not calling on the government to ban anything or take extreme measures. we would mainly like to see an extension of the rules on marketing junk food to children. we had to —— it is already banned during children's television. we know that children also watch family tv, saturday night tv, so we wa nt family tv, saturday night tv, so we want to see the government extend those restrictions are to the 9pm watershed to stop our kids being bombarded with all these messages encouraging them to eat foods we know are bad for them. encouraging them to eat foods we know are bad for themlj encouraging them to eat foods we know are bad for them. i wonder, you we re know are bad for them. i wonder, you were saying before, mandy, that you try to have a healthy lifestyle, but we get confusing m essa 9 es
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messages because we are told one week something is healthy, the next that it week something is healthy, the next thatitis week something is healthy, the next that it is not and we shouldn't have it. if you are busy, a working mum, it. if you are busy, a working mum, it is difficult to keep across everything. it is. as you say, one minute this is good to have red wine, then the next you shouldn't have alcohol. it is finding a balance, i think, have alcohol. it is finding a balance, ithink, and having a healthy choice but not restricting everything in your diet. otherwise, it can be so boring. just be aware and try and maintain a healthy weight. i don't look too deeply into people saying one week you shouldn't have processed meat then you should have processed meat then you should have it. it is conflicting messages which need to be clearer. unless it says you should eat chocolate, then i always make sure... i pay attention to that. justin, when you are using sunbeds, there were no warnings back then that there could bea link warnings back then that there could be a link to cancer. i only used them because my mum and dad did. and
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lam them because my mum and dad did. and i am pretty much certain that had my mum and dad knowing that there was a chance of developing cancer in years to come they wouldn't have allowed me to use it. it is early awareness. the more awareness we make people... the more awareness we make people... the more awareness we make people... the more we make people aware of the dangers and risks out lie, then i think that's what we need to do. obviously, my lifestyle has changed dramatically. i've been left with a long—term illness as well following my cancer, so long—term illness as well following my cancer, so i need to look at my life style, my cancer, so i need to look at my lifestyle, health and well— being is essential for me. it's not something thatis essential for me. it's not something that is a chore, it isjust something that comes with everyday life now. do you think the government, as sarah was suggesting, should be banning junk food advertising, for example, pre—watershed, or do you think we have to take personal
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responsibility? it is this balance, isn't it? it is, absolutely. as you said about chocolate, a little bit of what you fancy does you good. i suppose you cannot inundate your children with sweetened burgers and all that type of stuff, but every once in awhile, for a treat, that's fairenough. we once in awhile, for a treat, that's fair enough. we just need to be aware of the long—term effects. cancer research uk are not doing all this to make people fearful and to upset people. they are letting us know for a reason. i didn't expect to get cancer ten years ago. i didn't expect to have to live now with a long—term illness, but if maybe if i had known when i went to school about the dangers and what the likelihood of developing cancer could have been, iwould have the likelihood of developing cancer could have been, i would have looked at things completely differently. thank you all for your time this morning. iam
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thank you all for your time this morning. i am grateful to you for coming in. coming up... we'll hear from the family of anna campbell, the young british woman killed last week in syria, and bring you new footage of the 26—year—old, who travelled to fight alongside kurdish forces. it's been a turbulent week for facebook, with its founder mark zuckerberg being forced to apologise after the personal details of millions of facebook users were compromised. the data firm, cambridge analytica, is accused of using 50 million facebook users' data to target voters in the us election. a trade body representing major uk advertisers is due to meet with the social media giant today, to warn they may take their business elsewhere if the company doesn't promise to look after its users' data properly. facebook has been the dominant social media platform for more than a decade, so what does the future hold for this giant of silicon valley? with us in the studio is simon ensor — he's the ceo of digital marketing agency, yellowball. paul sutton, a social
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media consultant and founder of the digital download conference. and author, consultant and social media expert, dr sue black. thank you for coming in. i'm interested to know from each of you, how serious do you think this has been for facebook this week? is it a blip or something more serious?m is not the first issue that facebook has had. there is a clear difference in this scenario between data being used in order to sell a product or a service, to then influencing a political agenda. i think that is a line that has been crossed. it is the delay in which facebook have responded to this. in terms of the threat to them, users aren't
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necessarily going to leave facebook. they have invested a lot of time in it. although there is a call for it, the onus is on advertisers and their use of the data they collect. paul, would you agree? yeah, absolutely. i think there is a lot of fuss from users about how concerned they are, how worried they are about the data. but if you ask around, people are still not leaving the platform. there is a lot of talk about it. where that talk is taking place is on facebook. if facebook is so embedded in people's lives now that it is going to take, i think, a big shift to get enough users to leave the platform. is that laziness and habit the mac partly, yes.|j the platform. is that laziness and habit the mac partly, yes. i think it is ingrained in people now. facebook has been dominant for ten years. i was talking to a friend of mine who was saying that one way of
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keeping track her family is uploading stuff to facebook. she doesn't keep scrapbooks and things. it is all on facebook. and so for her to say, it is all on facebook. and so for herto say, ok, it is all on facebook. and so for her to say, ok, i'm it is all on facebook. and so for herto say, ok, i'm going it is all on facebook. and so for her to say, ok, i'm going to close my account, would be massive. that is not a one—off story. a lot of people feel like that. soon, what do you think? is boring to agree. but i think it is absolutely a blip. facebook is an incredible company that provides this amazing platform for people around the world, for free, basically. we would have to pay thousands of pounds to create that service for ourselves. we just couldn't do it. it provides us with this amazing platform. i've got four different personalities and profiles on facebook. a private one for friends and family, where i can see pictures of my grandson in singapore, which is incredible. my public profile, so i can put stuff
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on there relating to my work. i've got my social enterprise tech mums page. and i have also got a private group for tech mums tv, our new lifestream programme. we have facebook live streaming every week. it isa facebook live streaming every week. it is a completely integral part of my life. facebook are providing me with this great service for free. what is the problem? of course they will make some mistakes. they are pushing the boundaries of technology. with a billion people of course some things are going to go wrong. they have to apologise. they have to sort it out but it is not going to go away and it shouldn't. do people accept this is a free service they are going to have some of our data and we have to live with it? in broad strokes, yes, there is a general acceptance that if you use
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a general acceptance that if you use a platform for free, a general acceptance that if you use a platform forfree, there is a definite trade—off in the fact that that data can be used for advertisers. there is a very big difference between the cambridge analytica issue and the false news issue with the us election, that brings it into a different conversation to just purely advertising. you are nodding? yeah. as faras i'm advertising. you are nodding? yeah. as far as i'm aware, everybody i talk to isn't happy about the fact we give away so much data. but that is we do it? absolutely. it is not so is we do it? absolutely. it is not so much of a concern that we are going to stop doing it. if you are very concerned, leave facebook. as i said earlier, to get enough people to do that, to actually impact facebook, ijust to do that, to actually impact facebook, i just can't to do that, to actually impact facebook, ijust can't see it happening. there was a hash tag, delete facebook. did that get
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massive pig open? it trended in silicon valley. —— did that get massive pick up? it didn't have that much uptake around the us and globally. and again people used the hash tag but unless they do something about it it means diddly squat. how do you think mark zuckerberg dealt with this? he was quite slow in coming out and acknowledging it. he probably had to get everything straight. the world is watching. he probably had to get every single word that he said completely checked out by lots of people, by the lawyers and everyone, because —— because it is so easy when you are top of the news across the world, everybody is looking at every single detail of what you are saying. i every single detail of what you are saying. lam every single detail of what you are saying. i am sure every single detail of what you are saying. lam sure it every single detail of what you are saying. i am sure it took some time to get that sorted. i believe that facebook do want to sorted out, probably didn't want to, probably
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didn't want this to happen. it is not like they would have tried to make this happen, tried to do bad things with people's data. their heart is in the right place. but of course they make mistakes. everyone makes mistakes. they are at the frontiers of technology. we all make mistakes, right? he has gone from being a college student or whatever, to being this massive known around the world person, running this massive company, doing all this stuff, creating his platform for billions of people. there is no training to do that. of course he is going to make mistakes and the company is going to make mistakes. all companies and all people make mistakes. it is about how they respond and sorted out. if this happens again then of course that would be very different. make a mistake once, apologise, sorted out and move on. but if you make the same mistake again, that is completely different. same mistake again, that is completely diffe re ntlj
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same mistake again, that is completely different. i want to know from you if you think mark zuckerberg handled this well?|j zuckerberg handled this well?” agree with what has been said but i don't think you can ignore the fact that facebook is complicit in this. facebook itself did not leak the data. the data was given by people genuinely through a survey, initially anyway. this happened two years ago. and it is never come to light until now, when arguably facebook should have come out two years ago and disclosed that something had happened. how often do we hear that, things that have happened years ago? and cambridge analytica the ones who have done something wrong? cambridge analytica, people didn't know about cambridge analytica until a week ago. the issue with mark zuckerberg is, yes, he is boss of probably one of the most powerful companies in the world. if he is not suitable for
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the world. if he is not suitable for thejob, don't do it. there are enough people out there who run companies. from what i have read there are a lot of calls from mark zuckerberg to stop hiding behind facebook to your posts, and actually do live interviews and have more of a personality, instead of very carefully constructed responses, if you like. what about this meeting today with the advertisers? this will be important. they are saying, if you don't get your house in order, we will pull out. presumably thatis order, we will pull out. presumably that is when facebook gets in trouble? i'm talking about the fact advertisers are meeting mark zuckerberg today and they will say, if you don't sort this out, advertisers will move out? they have got to make money. it is critical for them. it would be really interesting to see what happens. yeah, they have to give the
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advertisers happy. for them to provide us with a free service, they have to make lots of money, to provide this free service for over a billion people. goodness knows how much money that actually costs. if we are not paying for that ourselves... if you think about it like the bbc or commercial channels, commercial channels have to advertise. facebook have to advertise. facebook have to advertise to provide a free service. the bbc we pay for. it is one model of the other. if we didn't have advertising on facebook we would have to pay a lot of money. we were talking before we came near —— came on air, that your big advertisers on facebook and a hell of a lot of small advertisers. if some of the big advertisers do fall away, there is still a massive bulk of advertisers out there who want to use facebook. it comes back to all of the users, all of the data you give, and the fact that as an
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advertiser i can micro—target people. i run a digital marketing conference. i'm able to target not only people who have visited my website, but within that segment people by their age, website, but within that segment people by theirage, their interests, their family status, by their income, all sorts of really micro—targeted things. that is the attraction to advertisers. what happens now? you said facebook can be forgiven once but not if this happens again. what do they need to do to get their house in order?m is not necessarily their house. the pressure has to be on the advertisers. if the users don't leave, and facebook don't change, then the only way to implement change is for the advertisers to pull their money and their —— therefore facebook have no money. one company head came up with an interesting point. you have this
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duality with internet advertising. facebook and coo —— google take 60% of advertising globally. if large brands are actually saying, we are going to pull our advertising space, it is not quite that simple. if facebook accounts for a larger portion of their e—commerce sales, it isa portion of their e—commerce sales, it is a harder decision for them to say they will pull it because then their stock price decreases and they will... it their stock price decreases and they will. .. it might their stock price decreases and they will... it might be big talk but you don't really see it happening. one bank has said it is intending to pose the account. but it has been a week and nobody else has done it. thank you for coming in. lots of you getting in touch about the conversation we had about cancer. 2500 cancers every week could be prevented by lifestyle changes. we know smoking is bad for us. we are talking about obesity.
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one viewer says they're getting frustrated about the conversation about exercise. she is a wheelchair user. watch it she do to get her weight down? pain is part of her life and she can't go anywhere without her powered wheelchair. andy says, does anybody think most of us who are obese have made it a lifestyle choice? i would prefer more effort to measures to support people who are already miserable and suffering because of their body weight, rather than constantly repeating the message it is entirely ourfault and repeating the message it is entirely our fault and we are going to repeating the message it is entirely ourfault and we are going to die. thank you for getting in touch. carry on sharing your thoughts on that story and any others. now the weather... now the latest weather with matt taylor. good morning. i have some good news for the weather. this weekend is looking a good deal dry across many
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parts of the country. a better day today as well. not a great start across parts of northern ireland. this is the image from coleraine. we have seen sunshine break through the clouds. a lovely start to the day in gloucestershire. more of us will see that sunshine in the afternoon. i'd there at the moment the satellite picture shows clouds filling in of the atlantic. this will bring cloud and rain to southern areas tomorrow. it isa and rain to southern areas tomorrow. it is a while away yet. in between, some gaps in the cloud, some sunshine. this is where the wet weather has been, particularly in scotla nd weather has been, particularly in scotland and northern ireland, and few showers in wales and northern ireland. sunny spells in england and wales will continue into the afternoon. a few showers. the cloud increasing into the north—west. northern ireland, more in the way bright weather. scotland may stay quite wet, particularly in the highlands and shetland. where you get sunshine and the winds fall, it will feel quite pleasant. temperatures in aberdeen 10 degrees.
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13 in central london. into tonight, an area of low pressure which pushes into france. in doing so it throws up into france. in doing so it throws upa lot into france. in doing so it throws up a lot of cloud are england and wales. occasional cloud and drizzle. temperatures will drop in northern ireland and scotland. after today's rain there will be some ice as well. temperatures this weekend where they should be at the time of the year. a lot of dry weather. the dampers to conditions first thing on saturday morning, especially in southern counties of england and wales. outbreaks of rain will gradually fade. confined to the far south. scotla nd fade. confined to the far south. scotland and northern ireland, a scattering of showers. some of them heavy. decent sunshine between the showers. a lovely day in eastern scotla nd showers. a lovely day in eastern scotland and the far north of england by the afternoon. temperatures up to ten or 11 degrees. after a chilly night to ta ke degrees. after a chilly night to take us into sunday, a better day
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crossing and wales. more sunshine. showers towards the north of england. northern ireland will see some push through on the north—west breeze. temperatures will take a boost with more sunshine. feeling more like spring as we move into british summer time. spring has been interrupted once again in parts of the continent. these scenes of snow are actually in southern italy. some very heavy snowfall in the last 2a hours. next week we —— will get cold and there will be snow as well. leaders of the remaining 27 eu countries have adopted guidelines for the future relationship of the eu and great britain after brexit. on the frontline of the war in syria — we have exclusive new footage of anna campbell — the young british woman killed last week while fighting alongside kurdish forces.
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no—one apart from close friends and family knew she was there. at that moment, the bottom fell out of my world was not are going through the full gamut of despair, grief, anger, loss, guilt in my case. british police have repeatedly warned against travelling to syria, saying anyone becoming involved with any armed group could be prosecuted. we'll have that full exclusive report shortly. have you ever used an online gp service? nearly half of them are unsafe, according to the healthcare watchdog, with some doctors handing out medicines without proper checks and inappropriately prescribing antibiotics. she tackled a strict religious upbringing and a debilitating condition. now, the latest news. leaders of the
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remaining 27 eu countries have formally agreed guidelines for the future relationship between the eu and the uk after brexit. the agreement is seen as a significant moment for the brexit process. according to diplomats, the guidelines were adopted in minutes. they have now moved onto a strategic discussion about the next phase of brexit talks. kristian fraser is in brussels for us. theresa may has spoken about looking for a new dynamic in this next stage of talks — what she mean by that dynamic in this next stage of talks - what she mean by that in the words ofa uk - what she mean by that in the words of a uk diplomat this morning, the a nswer to of a uk diplomat this morning, the answer to that thorny question of
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the border in ireland will be solved bya the border in ireland will be solved by a wide and deep special partnership that will be negotiated in the coming months. there are concerns on the irish side that over the next three months they move along way from where they are now, because there isn't a lot of time to set up the framework for the future partnership. today is a significant step forward. the eu leaders agreed on negotiating guidelines within minutes, so michel barnier has a mandate to stop talking about trade, which was the fervent wish for the uk side or the way back to march last year. they wanted to talk about trade alongside the withdrawal process because they think the two things are deeply entwined. and the mood there, christian?” things are deeply entwined. and the mood there, christian? ithink things are deeply entwined. and the mood there, christian? i think what has been shown in the course of the last 2a hours is that despite
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the sometimes thorny issues of brexit, the uk and eu do stand quite closely when it comes to defence. she came here looking for a robust response to the poisoning in salisbury, and the statement put out overnight shows that she got what she wanted. she said it was highly likely that russia was involved than that there was no other plausible explanation. it shows that on foreign policy the uk and the eu stand quite closely, and that will form part of these discussions — how do they keep that partnership on trade and at the same the security and foreign policy relationship? it really is, as far as it has shown this is seeing, part of the leveraged when it comes to the negotiation. it has shown has taken the rare step of recalling its how much clout the uk has on security. thank you, kristian. the eu has taken the rare step of recalling its ambassador following the nerve agent attack in after eu leaders the show of solidarity comes after eu leaders meeting russia was responsible for the poisoning. meanwhile, british
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diplomats in russia have started leaving the embassy in moscow ahead of tomorrow's deadline. 20 to diplomats and their families had been given one week to leave in response to britain was my decision to expel the same number of diplomats. many cancers in the uk could be avoided by adopting a healthy lifestyle, according to a new study. cancer research uk says that many cases are preventable. the charity also warns that obesity could overtake smoking is the biggest cause of the disease. nearly all the 150 whales stranded in western australia have died, in spite of efforts to save them. a mission is still under way to try to heard out to see six short finned pilot wealth that are still alive. they are prone to mass stranding is but the large number involved is unusual. that is a summary of the latest bbc news. moore at 10:30am.
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back to you. jill has written on the cancer story saying that visibility has been much reduced. another viewer says we do not help people get healthier by guilt tripping them into losing weight. some people are naturally overweight, just like some people are overweight, just like some people a re naturally overweight, just like some people are naturally tall. we make... alex has got in touch to say, surely if you know that smoking and obesity can cause heart disease and diabetes, you should also know that cancer is a possibility. continue to get in touch with us and all the stories we're talking about. remember, if you text, you will be charged that the standard network rate. now, the sport. after england we re rate. now, the sport. after england were bowled out for 58 on day one,
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only 5a runs were possible on the whole day of the first test against new zealand. captain kane williamson completed his 18th test century, a record for new zealand. after 23 overs, the rain came, with the home side 229—4 in the first innings, a lead of 71. play was called off late in the evening in auckland, where the weather is not supposed to be much better over the weekend. england's women are doing a little better in mumbai, beating australia by eight wickets. jenny gunn took three wickets and england restricted australia. they reached their target with three overs to spare. gareth southgate says england should concentrate on improving its own racism problem before making accusations about other countries. there are fears that the england squad and fans will face abuse in
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russia during the world cup. the england boss said he has seen what he calls disgusting behaviour on social media directed at some england under 17 players. i don't think we should just talk about racism in russia. we have got to get our own house in order and there are things going on in our country that are not correct around racism, so we keep wanting the finger at russia, where we will be guests in the next couple of months, but we haven't resolved the issue in our own country, and until we do, i think we should stop firing off those things elsewhere. england's women have risen to second in the fifa world rankings, jumping ahead of germany to their highest price ever. they only managed a fourth—place finish in the belize cup recently. they are runners—up to the usa, who are still top of the rankings. formula 1 is back with us and lewis hamilton was quickest in both practice sections at the australian grand prix
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overnight. there wasn't much between the top three teams, with red bull and ferrari very close behind hamilton, so mercedes may not be as dominant as some had predicted. with rain expected during qualifying and race on sunday, we could be in for an exciting weekend in melbourne. rory mcilroy has given himself a chance to reach the last 16 in austin, texas after losing on the first day. he beatjhonattan vegas, so he needs one more win to make it through and plays brian harman later. dustin johnson through and plays brian harman later. dustinjohnson is already out. alice kinsella has won her first senior medal at the world cup in birmingham at only 17. she was planning to use the eventjust for experience ahead of the commonwealth games but came away with a bronze medal in the all—round event. she said it had given her confidence a huge lift and she cannot now wait to get out the gold coast. that's all the sport for now. more in the
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headlines at 10:30am. thank you, hugh. this week we brought you the news of a young british woman who was killed while fighting alongside kurdish forces in syria. anna campbell died in afrin, in the north of the country, which has been under bombardment by turkish forces. her story has been receiving international attention but it's also re—ignited the legal and moral debate over fighting abroad. british police have repeatedly warned against travelling to syria, and have advised that becoming involved with any armed group could lead to arrest and prosecution. in a moment we'll talk to a man who's back in the uk after fighting so—called islamic state in syria. but first, watch this exclusive report by film maker erem kansoy, and emma vardy. we got here and my responsible was very happy. she stole a chicken from one of the nearby houses, got a friend to kill it and now we're going to have meat! this is anna campbell on the front lines of the war in syria. no one in britain except her closest friends and family knew she was there. this footage of her was kept
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in confidence until now. a very important part of life here. the first thing we do is have a cup of tea. and there you go. anna campbell, a qualified plumber from east sussex, had come to join the kurdish women's armed units in syria. my name is helin qerecox. my name from the was anna campbell. my name is helin qerecox. ijoined the ypj in march of last year and now i've just finished, we've just finished this education of ideology and military. she was kind of an interesting person. she was the kind of person that, she wouldn't tiptoe around being english and polite, she was just very grounded in what she wanted.
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back home she had been involved in campaigning for human rights and animal welfare. political activism was in her dna. mum and dad are both involved in political activities and stuff and so i guess there's that. i think it's genetic! more than upbringing. she was very uncompromising, very determined. the kurds say they fight for women's liberation in the middle east. the female fighters of the ypj have been playing a major part in the battle to defeat so—called islamic state. she was not held back by any fears that i know of. even fear of death. what was her route into this? everything is online nowadays. you can find out about the ypg, ypj activities, you can find out
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about the new sociopolitical system that has emerged, they call it the revolution in rojava, which is utopian. it's egalitarian. women have equal rights, equal representation. it was these ideals, the feminist ideology of the kurdish women, that had a strong appeal. so ijoined because i wanted to support the revolution and because i wanted to participate in the revolution of women that has been built up here. but what anna was doing was potentially illegal. authorities in the uk say there is nojust cause for taking up arms abroad. whenever she called home she neverfully told her family about the danger she was preparing to face. we knew a little bit. she was quite, i think, protective of us byjust giving us little bits of information. she just downplayed it so much.
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shejust said, "you know, i'm fine. i'm just sitting on a lookout post eating hummus and not really doing much and i'll be back soon." she gave us the impression she was not really involved in military action. we later found out she was. anna was involved in fighting in deir ezzor. where the islamic state group were holding the last of their territory. the principles that the kurdish women's armed groups stand for, anybody can see how they are very inspiring. but is it worth taking part in violence for? to her it was, yes. because she believed it was a cause worth fighting for. what she was doing, fighting in this capacity, would be considered against the law. so how did her actions sit with you? yes, but the law is completely wrong in that respect. i wrote to my mp, i said my daughter is out in syria fighting for our allies, the people
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who are on our side. but then the war changed. turkey began to attack the kurds along the northern syrian border around the town of afrin. because of a long and bitter history between these two sides, turkey sees the kurdish armed groups as terrorists. the attacks of the turkish state against the revolution and against the kurdish people and the people of kurdistan is very shocking and heavy. as this new conflict broke out, many of those anna was with went to fight against turkey in the north and she made up her mind to go too. her commanders in the ypj refused to let her. they said, you're going to stick out like a sore thumb. blonde haired, blue—eyed, obviously a foreigner. she dyed her hair black. she didn't tell
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anyone she was going. we would have tried everything. i would have tried to stop her but she probably would have... she would have just taken no notice. it was in afrin, say her friends, that anna was killed by a turkish air strike, and her family were given the news. at the moment the bottom fell out of my world because i knew she was dead. we're going through the whole gamut of despair, grief, anger, loss, guilt in my case. do you think parents should try to do more to stop people going to fight like anna did? as i say, i know that she would never have forgiven me if i stopped her from going. but i feel like i could have done more to raise awareness of what was going on. and we did try our best. in fact, when she first told me
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i said, "is there only way i can stop you going?" and she said, "no, there's no point in you even trying." the potential consequences of fighting in syria are clear, but it is a risk that some continue to take. dozens of british citizens have joined kurdish armed groups. seven british men have also lost their lives. a vigil has been held for anna campbell in lewes, her hometown, as those who loved her fight to come to terms with this loss. on the front line, these fighters became her family and their cause became her own. i'm really excited to go and join the so many brave friends that are fighting there now. let's talk now to rosemary hollis, who is a professor of international politics at city university. we also have with us
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alexander norton, who fought in syria with kurdish militia — the ypg — against isis in early 2017. thank you both for coming in. alexander, what made you want to go and fight in syria? the ideals of the revolution appealed to anyone with progressive politics. myself as a socialist, saw it as the spanish civil war from a socialist, saw it as the spanish civil warfrom a a socialist, saw it as the spanish civil war from a generation. a socialist, saw it as the spanish civil warfrom a generation. i didn't hesitate to go there not once but twice, to work as a civilian first, to make sure this really was a genuine progressive socialist feminist egalitarian revolution. after i had finished working as a civilian, i came back to the uk, saved up money working on the railway, said goodbye to my partner and family and went back to join the ypg, not because of the evil of isis, which is not the most powerful evil, but one of the most powerful
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ideological evils of our time, but for the revolution. to show there are progressive revolutionary solutions to the problems in the world, especially in the middle east, where people often throw their hands up. like simonjenkins in the guardian said in this horrible piece about anna, there is nothing you can do, it is a maelstrom of chaos. it is not. there are groups like the kurds who have the values that go beyond and above ours. explain to people why it is as a young man growing up in britain you can support their cause, you can want to back them, but to actually make the decision to go and have the conversation with your partner and yourfamily? conversation with your partner and your family? the origins of the kurdish cause, particularly the ypg and the white pj is socialist. me and the white pj is socialist. me and my friends are socialists, my family is socialist. he was marxist, he is now more of a humanistic
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marxist. did they say, that's fine, go? no. firsti marxist. did they say, that's fine, go? no. first i want is a humanitarian volunteer. when i returned they had a feeling it would be safer than it really was. the second time i was fighting. what was the fighting like? are not going to put myself forward as someone who is a communist rambo. i took part in offences, i fired a weapon, a communist rambo. i took part in offences, ifired a weapon, i carried a weapon. it is confusing. it is often very dark. terrifying? no, it's not. the realfearfor most of us was not doing our part, to deal with the shame of not doing your part. if you are protecting an area and your flank doesn't do its part, the way that we work there is
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no shouting, no punishment. we deal with respect of our comrades. everyday we have a meeting and criticise and self criticise that was the real fear, criticise and self criticise that was the realfear, that criticise and self criticise that was the real fear, that you criticise and self criticise that was the realfear, that you might let your side down. this is illegal. the british police have said whoever you are fighting, you could face arrest and prosecution? this is something which is absolutely scandalous. it seems the only recently this has become illegal. they question people in the past but now they are charging and interviewing people for terrorist offences since turkey has got involved. it is clear pressure coming from turkey. i had been back for more than a year before i finally got a call from police. they put three terror charges on the table. why? this was only after turkey launched an invasion of sovereign kurdish territory of afrin. until then the police were not interested. they were aware of
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us. rosemary hollis, give us a context us. rosemary hollis, give us a co ntext a nd us. rosemary hollis, give us a context and overview. syria is such a confusing war. there are many different factions. many people will know by president assad but not necessarily this element of the work? for the kurdish population of this part of the world there are many millions of kurds. they are a distinctive ethnic group. they are not turks, they are not arabs. their population is spread across very large numbers of turkey itself. and smaller numbers in syria but on the border with turkey. somewhere in between you have the kurdish population of iraq and also iran. since those states were carved out of the remains of the ottoman empire in the 1920s, the kurds did not luck out with a state of their own. they are spread across iraq, syria, iran and turkey. and they have been
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played by those countries, by those powers, and with some american interference at times, and with some israeli interference at times. the israelis hoped the kurds were going to be their friends. but then discovered the kurds could not deliver anything very much because they are split up between countries. their aspirations for autonomy set of fears in the governments of iraq, syria, iran and turkey. they feared autonomy would be a step to independence and a whole new country would be carved out of this area at their expense. so this is the origins of turkey's paranoia, if you like, about kurdish separatism across the border in syria and iraq, and the kurds of syria had gained
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advantage compared with where they we re advantage compared with where they were before the war started in syria up were before the war started in syria up until 2010 they were pretty much suppressed and off the radar. but because of the war in syria, they have gained in significance. a numberof them in have gained in significance. a number of them in syria have been recruited by the americans to fight against isis. alexander, why do you think there continues to be such a strong poll for foreign fighters to go over and be involved in a foreign war? to many people it will feel it does not affect us here. it certainly does. people have heard of isis. they should have heard of the ypg, the most effective force for destroying this menace. the attacks in london and manchester, these are planned by isis. an ideological core. if we smash them ideological, if they are seen as beaten by something stronger, more beautiful,
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asi something stronger, more beautiful, as i think anna completely symbolises, this destroys them in a more complete way. if they're hit by air strikes from imperialist forces, they prove their point. they say, we try to have a revolutionary islamic fascist society and we were smashed by the americans. if they are smashed by socialist feminist kurds, this is a brilliant way of defeating them completely. it was the most perfect bad light could imagine. my values against the most reactionary values against the most reactionary values and a chance to say, you talk about equality but you don't go to saudi arabia. we did. we went to a similarthing. saudi arabia. we did. we went to a similar thing. the right wing tried to scapegoat normal muslims by focusing on extremism. they say the left are tolerant. no, we are not. they are clearly in one place. we will come down on them like a tonne of bricks. how people respond to
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you, knowing you have come back, and thatis you, knowing you have come back, and that is what you have done? have people been supportive are questioned you? people have been very supportive. i think people were a little bit confused. a little bit scared. it's been easy enough to writing and talking to explain what was going on. and now that people are learning, people understand it better than before. it has been an amazing opportunity to try and educate people and give them a more positive feeling about solutions to the problems in this world. rosemary, why do you think there is such a paul to get involved in this war? it is pretty unique to the kurds in syria. they do have historical links and ideological links to the pkk, which is not only
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by turkey, but is by the eu and the americans understood as a terrorist organisation. those links are damning forthem. in organisation. those links are damning for them. in the international arena certainly. in terms of who is going to support them. especially under bombardment from the turks. and i think very little attention, until your programme today, is being paid to the ideological attractions for people like alexander. thank you both for coming in. still to come... kick boxing world champion ruqsana baig willjoin us shortly. and rescu e rs baig willjoin us shortly. and rescuers are racing to try and save the last surviving stranded whales in australia after nearly all 150 died. time for the latest news. here's annita. the bbc news headlines this morning... the bbc news headlines. leaders of
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the remaining 27 eu countries have formally agreed guidelines for the future relationship between the eu and the uk after brexit. the agreement is seen as a significant moment for the brexit process. according to diplomats at the eu summit in brussels, the guidelines we re summit in brussels, the guidelines were adopted within minutes. leaders have moved on to a strategic discussion about the next phase of brexit talks. the prime minister welcomed the announcement.” brexit talks. the prime minister welcomed the announcement. i believe there is a new dynamic now in the negotiations. i believe we are approaching this with a spirit of cooperation and opportunity for the future as well. and we will now be sitting down and determining those workable solutions for northern ireland, but also for our future security partnership and economic partnership. and i believe this is in the best interest of the uk and eu. the european union has taken the rare step of recalling its ambassador to russia following the nerve agent attack in salisbury. the show of
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solidarity comes after eu leaders agreed it was highly likely that moscow was responsible for the poisoning. british diplomats in russia have started leaving the embassy in moscow ahead of tomorrow's deadline. 23 diplomats and their families have tomorrow's deadline. 23 diplomats and theirfamilies have been given a week to leave in response to britain's decision to expel the same number of russian diplomats following the nerve agent attack in salisbury. nearly 40% of all cancers diagnosed in the uk could be avoided if people adopted a healthier lifestyle, according to a new study. cancer research uk says 135,000 cases every year are preventable. the charity is also warning that obesity could eventually overtake smoking as the biggest cause of the disease. that is a summary of the latest news. after england were wiped out in the
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first day of their test against new zealand, more of a wash—out. kane williamson completed a record 18th test century for his country. gareth southgate says england should get their house in order before accusing other countries are racism. there are concerns that england players and fans might face racial abuse at the world cup in russia, but southgate says he has seen disgusting behaviour close down. england's women have risen to second place in the fever rankings, their highest place, but they are still behind the usa in the table. lewis hamilton was quickest in his mercedes in both practice sessions ahead of the first grand prix of the season in australia. red bull and ferrari were pretty close behind, so it could well be tight when we come to the race in melbourne on sunday. that's all the sport for now. the parsons green tube bomber, ahmed hassan, will be sentenced for attempted murder today after his failed attempt to bomb a london tube train. in court, thejury heard that he wanted to avenge the death of his father in iraq and felt
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"disappointed" when the bomb only partly detonated. the family who fostered him said they felt betrayed by his actions admitting they were never told he had been part of the government's prevent programme for a year when he entered their care. so what went wrong, and what now needs to be done to stem the rise in radicalisation? let's talk to will baldet in leicester, who is a coordinator of the government's prevent programme. zubeda limbada is in birmingham — she's the director of connect futures, an organisation that works to prevent extremism is schools and colleges. and in the studio is 7/7 survivor sajda mughal, who is ceo of the jan trust, an organisation that educates parents on spotting extremism. thank you all for coming to speak to us. i want to begin by speaking to will. clearly, in this case, there have been failures. do you believe
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that in the large part, the prevent programme is working and there aren't more people like this who are slipping through the net?” aren't more people like this who are slipping through the net? i do indeed, yes. we support a huge number of people every year, every week and every month. for the vast majority, it is an effective and successful programme that safeguards them and leads them to a safer place so they are no longer a risk to themselves and others around them. clearly, in this case, there has been a breakdown in this process, a process that has been successful in other places. we need to look at why that fell year of implementation has caused this particular case to slip through the cracks. we need to collectively learn from those mistakes. what do you think about the prevent strategy? clearly, in this case, it was said that he needed further intervention, and that never came. it is a vast question. the prevent scheme has been running for around ten years,
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roughly £40 million a year being spent on it. we know there are around 13,000 referrals that have taken around 13,000 referrals that have ta ken place around 13,000 referrals that have taken place since 2007. it is a vast and complex scheme, but there are questions to be raced around trust and transparency. it is not a case of scrapping it but making sure that people trust the process. in this particular case, we know that an intervention didn't happen. it was delayed. there were concerns raised by an immigration official as well asa by an immigration official as well as a teacher, and i think, again, the surrey commissioner pointed out that the authorities were slow to act. the point is around trust and transparency. how do we make sure that all of our communities are part of the solution when referrals do happen. we know that one in ten referrals come from the public. the vast majority come from the police,
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statutory agencies like teachers and social workers, so how can we get communities more involved in this equation. where do they get involved? and one of the things we do in training in schools is making sure we're having conversations, that it sure we're having conversations, thatitis sure we're having conversations, that it is notjust about islamist extremism that we're talking about, but also far right extremism. just yesterday, for example, we were in a school with headteachers in birmingham, and one of their practical is it —— their practical concerns is the kill a muslim letter that has been circulating, and young students are talking about this in the playground. for them, students are talking about this in the playground. forthem, it is about making things practical and preventative. what do we do and how do we do it without scaring people? where the conversations taking place? there is a lot of fear in terms of getting things right and making sure we don't get things wrong. for example, we try to make sessions interactive. we released a film this week about the of a woman
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from birmingham who son went to fight for isis. he was 19 years old. we use these as practical examples to talk about terrorism so that it is not theoretical and making sure that we are part of the solution as well. i want to bring in sajda, because i want to know whether you have faith in the prevent programme. ido have faith in the prevent programme. i do have faith, but we need to learn from parsons green. i don't wa nt learn from parsons green. i don't want to sit here and keep saying that lessons should be learnt. we can't have a repeat of this. their knees to be a joined up approach. in the case parsons green, there was a barnardo's worker who had spotted the perpetrator looking at extremist websites. there was a social worker as well. my biggest here is, why we re as well. my biggest here is, why were the foster parents not told that this young guy, who is in the prevent —— that this young guy was in the prevent programme? they
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should have been told so that they could be equipped with the education. for example, my team and i. education. for example, my team and i, via owl web guardians programme work intensively with foster parents, with parents and families, educating them on the signs of online radicalisation and how they can protect their loved ones. for example, take this case — he was looking at amazon, biting the chemicals from amazon, deleting his history. the sides could have been spotted from within the home and there could have been thisjoined up approach. so i'm sitting here and saying that we need to learn from this, but i don't want to sit here again in the future to say that lessons need to be learned. there needs to be that joined lessons need to be learned. there needs to be thatjoined up approach and people need to work faster. will, is that all perfectly reasonable? absolutely, i would concur with what both guests have said. we need to learn what has broken down here and share, be transparent about what happened
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within the process to cause this to slip through the cracks. i don't understand why the foster carers won't involve. that would have been paramount to us in prevent, so there are questions to be asked about this particular example, but we need to be cautious not to throw the baby out with the bath water. this ratty —— the strategy is effective. it involves non—government organisations as well as communities themselves. it is a complex process and mechanism with lots of moving parts. is the problem here that you are overwhelmed, you being the prevent programme, with the number of people being referred, and you don't have the resources and money to keep track across this?” disagree. more money would always be welcome, but you can'tjust resolve the problem by throwing money at it. we need to look at the processes we have, which bits are effective and
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which need to be improved, and be more sophisticated in our approach and how we apply that. i don't subscribe to the idea of throwing more money. we are not overwhelmed with cases. there are a large number, that but the broad picture is that there are over 600,000 children referred per yearfor is that there are over 600,000 children referred per year for other safeguarding issues. our recent figures were 8000, 8500. we play a small part of that larger picture. about 35% of our cases don't go on to further intervention. that is comparable with other safeguarding areas, so we are an effective and normal safeguarding apparat areas, so we are an effective and normal safeguarding appa rat is. areas, so we are an effective and normal safeguarding apparat ism is important that we don't just normal safeguarding apparat ism is important that we don'tjust rely on the authorities but that communities are part of the solution. what we find time and again is that, where there are issues of trust raised, we don't target certain communities. also, when we talk to young people at all, we don't patronise them with a
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message of, don't do terrorism. we do ourtraining and message of, don't do terrorism. we do our training and make sure that kids understand the different ways in which they could be groomed, where safeguarding works, and also about the key ethos outside of that aduu about the key ethos outside of that adult environment about questioning everything, both on social media and in face—to—face conversations. everything, both on social media and in face-to-face conversations. thank you very much for speaking to us today, all of you. next, the story of a british bangladeshi muslim woman who wants to use her skills and experience to inspire the next generation of female kickboxers and sports stars. ruqsana begum, who tackled a strict religious upbringing, and was diagnosed with a debilitating health condition, has ruqsana begum, who tackled a strict religious upbringing, and was diagnosed with a debilitating health condition, has become a kick boxing world champion and made it her mission to help other women follow their passion for sport. she joins us in the studio now. thanks very much for coming in, it's great to see. you were sport mad when you were growing up. did that
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sometimes cause a challenge within yourupbringing? sometimes cause a challenge within your upbringing? initially, iwas fascinated by martial arts, love playing football. i used to be the fastest girl in the school, so i was a lwa ys fastest girl in the school, so i was always very passionate about sports. however, i fell always very passionate about sports. however, ifell in always very passionate about sports. however, i fell in love with thai boxing. it was fast and explosive but i guess i was very aware of my background and knew that being female, petite, asian, muslim, going into a male dominated sport was unheard of, so it presented its challenges. and you kept it secret from yourfamily challenges. and you kept it secret from your family for quite awhile, didn't you? i did. i began the sport at the age of 17, and throughout university, i actually kept it hidden from them because i was afraid that they may ask me to choose between the spot and then. and i wasn't prepared to give up the sport at that point. it weighs a hobby and a passion. —— it was a
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hobby and a passion. —— it was a hobby and a passion. —— it was a hobby and a passion. when you did have a conversation with your family, how did it go? eventually i decided to bring them to the gym and introduce them to my couch. it was when i had finished university and i was going through a challenging time in my life. i felt was going through a challenging time in my life. ifelt as was going through a challenging time in my life. i felt as though was going through a challenging time in my life. ifelt as though i was going through a challenging time in my life. i felt as though i was living a double life and i wanted my family to be on board with what i am pursuing, which i felt was something positive in my life. and so i decided to bring them to the gym, and they took a back step and allowed me to continue with the sport. was it important to have their blessing? incredibly important, because it is a combat sport, and i was representing great britain, andi sport, and i was representing great britain, and i needed them to be supportive and proud —— i needed them to be supportive. and proud. exactly. it was a blessing in disguise, the fact that they just took a step back and allowed me to
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continue on my part, on myjourney to become a world champion. they didn't throw any restrictions on me. you have also had health challenges as well in this period. it was, what, eight years ago that you were diagnosed with any? that's right. -- with me. at first, i thought i had swine flu, constantly in bed, and i knew that wasn't my personality. i wasn't someone who was lazy, i was a lwa ys wasn't someone who was lazy, i was always up doing things. going into the gym is was the favourite of my day, so when i was diagnosed with mee, iwas day, so when i was diagnosed with mee, i was suddenly struck, and i didn't believe that i had it, because i felt as though i was a fighter. i would fight through whatever challenges life presents. however, eventually, i had to take the advice of the specialists and realised it was paying dividends to
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my training. so, short, sharp sessions, eating well, sleeping, and recovery was key to my just sessions, eating well, sleeping, and recovery was key to myjust in terms of moving forward. so you had one training session and how long would that knock you out for? with a hard session i could be knocked out for two or three weeks. wow! so what i have had to do now is, under training is betterfor me than overtraining, so i would only give it 40% at the moment rather than 100%. as soon as i exert myself, i find that my bodyjust crashes, and it takes a long time for me to recover. clearly, you have your training sorted, because as world champion, that's incredible for you to get to that level. i know one of the things for you is about giving a message out, not just the things for you is about giving a message out, notjust to young women but young muslim women that this is something achievable.” but young muslim women that this is something achievable. i believe that life always has its obstacles and
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challenges, and there is always a way round it. you just have to persevere, keep continuing to believe in yourself and work hard. there is always a way, and i demonstrate that through my challenges, from being a woman in a male dominated sport, suffering from me, being muslim and ethnic and coming from an underprivileged background, i demonstrate that regardless of your faith, your background, your gender, all things are possible. also, i know that you have developed a range of sports hijabs, which is an important issue for young muslim women who want to wear a head covering, and that can be uncomfortable in sport. definitely. i didn't have those opportunities when i first went into the sport. finding a female instructor was difficult, finding a women only environment was difficult. there's challenges still exist, which is why i decided to design a range of sports hijabs to
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help more muslim women access sport. in fact, research shows that we took a drop in the number of muslim women taking part in sport from 24% to 20% now which is... we need to improve those numbers, so if i can reduce one barrierfor them, you know, that means absolutely everything to me, to support them and be a role model and inspire them. i'm sure you're doing exactly that. as for coming in and speaking to us this morning. —— thank you for coming in. prince harry and meghan markle are in belfast today. it's the last in a series of visits in which the prince has taken his fiancee on a mini tour of england, wales, scotland and northern ireland. they're meeting teenagers now. let's take a look. they are arriving, shaking hands. prince harry saying it was incredibly important that he shows meghan markle all four countries in the united kingdom before they get married on may the 19th in windsor.
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these pictures are from just a few moments ago. we are going to talk about gp services now. we were talking earlier in the problem about this. if you're struggling to get a doctor's appointment, do you ever turn to the internet for help? lots of people google their symptoms. we are often told that is a bad idea. but many other go a step further and use online gp services to get a diagnosis or even a prescription. but four in ten online gp services in england aren't completely safe to use — according to the health regulator. inspectors from the care quality commission found problems with prescribing drugs and carrying out checks on patients. let's talk to professor steve field from the care quality commission. professor helen stokes—lampa rd is from the royal college of gps, which says it's been actively raising concerns around patient safety in regard to online gp providers. and dr mobasher butt is the medical director
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of the digital care provider, ba bylon. thank you all for coming in. first of all, i want to begin speaking to you, professor. what are your concerns that you found? first of all, we actually regulate the traditional gps as well as online. so specifically looking at online we found some concerns in the safety areas about prescribing antibiotics, the potential to prescribe opiates, codeine —based painkillers. some issues about making sure it is the right patient in front of the person or online, on the phone. i must say that while we raised these concerns right at the start when the first inspected, there has been a lot of improvement. and we will continue to
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go back and make sure they are improving as time goes on. derley regulations surrounding online gp services? add a different from the surgery you would walk into? we believe we should be looking at the same standards. in fact, the disruption in a clinical sense is not the fact you are doing something online. we have used the telephone, we have used skype consultations for many years. this is really about looking at the patient in front of you, making sure you are aware of their history, listening intently. if you need to examine, then you need to make it easy for the patient to then seek someone to be examined. that is the only part that is different to a face—to—face consultation. if people watching this are saying, how on earth if i —— do this are saying, how on earth if i ——doi this are saying, how on earth if i —— do i know at this online services saved, what should they do? we
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regulate in england. patients should look for the care quality comission logo and read the report of the provider. if we do have some concerns, they are clearly articulated in that paper. but realistically, if your child is ill, you can't get a doctor's appointment, you won't check the online report, will you? is the co see stamp on the website?m online report, will you? is the co see stamp on the website? it will be on the website. we make sure we regulated in england. we only have jurisdiction over this country. and expansion presumably is likely to happen in years to come macro by the very nature of how we live —— lead our lives? i made gp, and also mail. and as a patient these services are services i would use in future, being busy at work and whatever. we need to make sure they are safe and effective and that they link into the nhs gp by contacting them, being
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able to get past histories etc.” wa nt to able to get past histories etc.” want to bring in professor helen stokes la m pa rd. want to bring in professor helen stokes lampa rd. i want to bring in professor helen stokes lampard. i know you do have concerns about these providers. what are they? yes, the concerns are not that they are online, the concerns are about regulation and safety. what we want is an nhs service fit to provide all these services to patients fairly and equitably, and it is based on evidence. evidence of safety. we have a changing market. the nhs is underfunded. insufficient gps. people are looking for alternatives. we mustn't destabilise the nhs. we must ensure that what patients are getting is the safest possible care. if we are allowing people to function, to access services that are unsafe, we won't allow it in the nhs, so why should be allowed in the private sector? the private sector needs to be regulated in the same with the nhs is. we are asking for the same
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standards. also, there are issues of equality of access. if people are not able to access these services, we are bringing greater health inequalities. that is a concern. i wa nt inequalities. that is a concern. i want everyone to have great care. what about the idea of antibiotics being too readily handed out? that isa being too readily handed out? that is a specific concern. antibiotic overuse is a concern for the whole country, the whole world, because of the... there has been evident in the past that some of these providers haven't been taking the necessary checks. because they are doing things online they haven't been able to examine a person to see of antibiotics are needed. we mustn't use this to short cut good clinical care. lots of accusations, lots of concerns. as a medical provider online, how do you respond? we are ina online, how do you respond? we are in a fortunate position in the
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report was overwhelmingly positive in the areas of safety. so i think it is really important that online services do deliver safe care. i think it is possible, and we found it is possible, to have really good policies and guidance for clinicians to do this kind of care safely. the bottom line is, i think, to do this kind of care safely. the bottom line is, ithink, digital technology gives us an opportunity to actually deliver even safer care. as an example, our technology allows patients to book an appointment in seconds. you can see a gp within two hours. how much does that cost? it is completely free for a gp at hand a service. you have to sign up to it. you don't have to pay. it is completely free. do people have to pay for their prescriptions? if some people are feeling that antibiotics are more readily handed out... is
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this a moneymaking exercise?” are more readily handed out... is this a moneymaking exercise? i don't think it is. patients have to pay foran nhs think it is. patients have to pay for an nhs prescription and that's what they need to do. some people are entitled to a free nhs prescription. that is exactly the same as it would be if you saw a gp face—to—face. same as it would be if you saw a gp face-to-face. there is an nhs, one nhs service called gp at hand. they are an nhs service and they are regulated in the same way. but most of what this report is about is private providers. those people do pay for their appointments. they would pay for their prescriptions. that isjust to would pay for their prescriptions. that is just to clarify that. sammy on the e—mail says, online doctors, i've used these services rather than face the nightmare of getting a gp appointment. they are only on safe when people abuse them to get medications they gp would refuse. if you have a genuine problem they are a much needed. someone else has tweeted to say that online doctors can be very dangerous as they can't
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test you as well as face—to—face. this is one of the back door privatisation of the nhs. no laws protect you from online medical services from the private sector. we regulate private providers as well as the one nhs provider in england. we are talking about the english nhs. we need to make sure that all the services are safe and effective, just like if you are going to your own gp wherever you live. i think in the future there will be a blended service where you do get access to online consultations, video consultations as well as face—to—face. but at the moment we are not there yet. ourjob as a regulator is to make sure that the patient in england are safe. that is what we are doing. to pick up and appoint someone made in the e—mail, i think it is possible to save the examine patients via video. if someone presents to me as a gp on
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video, i can accurately assess the back of their throat, i can look at their joints, back of their throat, i can look at theirjoints, ican back of their throat, i can look at theirjoints, i can look at their skin. it doesn't —— it does have limitations. if you need to listen to their chest, for example. those patients must be referred to a physical assessment. we have provisions for that. thank you. nearly all of 100 and 50 whales stranded at hamelin bay in western australia have died, in spite of strenuous efforts to save them. we can speak now to abc's western australia news reporter gian de poloni, who has been down at the beach all day covering the story. this is such a sad situation. explain what you have been seeing?” spent the whole day down at the beach. yeah, it is not a pretty sight. when you get down to the beach you can see hundreds of metres of whales dade or dying. up to 150. everybody down there was trying to
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do all they can to try to push some of the ones who were healthier back out to sea. it was a distressing sight. because the whales were so weak, they put a lot of effort into getting them back into the sea. but the waves were pushing them back in. it was a hopeless task, i guess. how often does this happen? it is not a common occurrence, although, i must say, it's quite interesting because nine years ago to this very day there was another mass whale beating an event at the same beach, with similar numbers. that is peculiar. we're not similar numbers. that is peculiar. we' re not really similar numbers. that is peculiar. we're not really sure why that has happened again. it is not uncommon. but it doesn't happen often. and i guess the challenge is trying to make sure it doesn't happen again and if it does, to save more lives?
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that is it. it has been a fruitless task. i think only about nine whales have been saved over 150. i know that this afternoon marine scientists were spending a great deal of time taking dna samples of the dying whales, to try and figure out exactly what caused them to do this. and for the other ones, the ones that were a bit healthier, they we re ones that were a bit healthier, they were being picked up by an excavator, put in a sling and taken further out to sea. it was just a handful that were saved. it was quite distressing for many locals. although this beach is quite remote, it is ina although this beach is quite remote, it is in a popular tourist area. there were plenty of tourists, including tourists from the uk who had just come down to the beach mac —— beach. had just come down to the beach mac -- beach. thank you so much for speaking tours. i can't imagine what it was like to be on the beach. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. have a good day.
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hello there. it was a rather cloudy and damp start to the day. we had heavy rain across parts of scotland and northern ireland. that is clearing away. many of us have got sunny spells developing. this is the scene in suffolk. it will continue to stay largely sunni don't towards the south and east, across the midlands as well. the risk of some showers affecting scotland, northern ireland and northern england. late in the day this area of cloud and rain spread into the far south—west. temperatures in northern areas down a bit compared to yesterday. 11 to 13 degrees. tonight this area of
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cloud and sporadic rain moves north. very patchy. it will prevent a frost for england and wales. with clearer skies in scotland and northern ireland, temperatures below freezing. a frosty start in scotland and northern ireland. as for england and northern ireland. as for england and wales, things brightening up on saturday. sunday, a good deal of sunshine, some showers and temperatures average. this is bbc news — and these are the top stories developing at 11. a show of solidarity with britain, after the eu takes the rare step of recalling its ambassador to russia. the threat from russia is one that
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respects no borders, and i think it is clear that russia is challenging the values we share as europeans, and it is right that we are standing together in defence of those values. i am christian fraser live at the leader summit in brussels where they have formally accepted the guidelines for the next phase of the brexit negotiation: discussions on the future relationship will now begin. stock markets are hit by fears of a trade war — after china retaliates against president trump's decision to impose taxes on their exports. donald trump sacks his second national security advisor in 14 months — and appoints the hardline former un ambassador, john bolton, to the role.
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