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hello it's monday, it's 9 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. our top story today — jeremy corbyn is accused of siding with anti—semites "again and again". what people are asking now is when, finally, isjeremy corbyn going to confront and deal with the anti—semitism, not just talk about it? the labour leader says he's "sincerely sorry" for "pockets of anti—semitism" in his own party. we'll speak to a labour mp who says jeremy corbyn needs to "cleanse the party of the cancer of anti—semetism". also on the programme... the bereaved parents who're losing out on tens of thousands of pounds in bereavement payments. this benefit isn't anything any of us want. i'd rather my husband than £350 a month, but i have to be mum and dad to my boys, i have to make sure that they're emotionally secure and safe, and that small amount of money goes a long way to help me. we'll look at the impact of
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the new bereavement support payment. and — donald trump and the porn star who claims she was threatened and intimidated to keep quiet about the sexual relationship she had with the president 12 years ago. a guy walked up on me and said to me, "leave trump alone, leave the story". then he leaned around and looked at my daughter and said, "a beautiful little girl, it'd be a shame if something happened to her mum". hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until 11. throughout the morning, we'll bring you the latest breaking news and developing stories and — as always — really keen to hear from you. atjust after 9:30, we'll talk to the 11 year old scout who's received £42,000 in compensation after his family
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said his scout group discriminated against him because of his autism. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning — use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today... jewish leaders have accused jeremy corbyn of repeatedly siding with people with anti—semitic views. the accusation is made in an open letter published by the board of deputies of britishjews and thejewish leadership council, and follows the controversy over the labour's leader facebook comment on a mural widely regarded to be anti—semitic. it comes after an apology from jeremy corbyn for what he called "pockets of anti—semitism" in his party. alex forsyth reports. labour's leader is facing direct criticism. jeremy corbyn is accused of failing to stamp out anti—semitism in his party. the latest row relates to an offensive mural in east london, which back in 2012,
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jeremy corbyn seemed to support. he later said he should have looked more closely at the disturbing image. nonetheless, in a letter, two prominentjewish groups condemned the labour leader. they wrote... i also will be asking him how he could possibly say that he didn't really look at the mural which he supported, which was grotesquely anti—semitic. i want him to explain to me how he is a member of two notably anti—semitic facebook groups and he says he didn't notice. everything withjeremy corbyn is, well i hear no evil, i see no evil, i wasn't looking, i didn't see anything. frankly, i find that strange. in his own statement, mrcorbyn said... he said he utterly condemned
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anti—semitism and it would not be tolerated. his comments welcomed by some. i'm pleased thatjeremy has said he will meetjewish leaders within the next few days, weeks and months and we are going to continue to campaign to stamp out racism and anti—semitism of any kind in the party, at every level. but for others, the labour leader must still do more to prove he is tough enough on this issue, which continues to plague him. we'll speak to a labour mp who says jeremy corbyn hasn't done enoguh to tackle anti—semitism in the party in around half an hour's time. at least 56 people have died and several more are still missing, after a fire broke out at a shopping centre in siberia. many of the victims are children, it's being reported.
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the blaze started on an upper floor of the shopping complex while many of the victims were in cinema halls. 0ur correspondent andrew plant reports. a fire on the fourth floor. this shopping centre, surrounded by firefighters, searching for survivors, trying to reach upper floor windows, fighting the smoke billowing outside. the fire started here on sunday. dozens were evacuated, but it was clear dozens more were missing, many of them children. translation: the area of the fire is about 1,500 square metres. at this moment, 288 emergency officers are working on site, as well as 62 units of equipment and an airbourne grouping are taking part in the search and rescue operation. we are taking all necessary measures to extinguish the fire. the shopping centre has a very complex construction. there is a lot of combustible materials. people gathered to stand and stare as the fire unfolded. witnesses said it trapped people on the upper floors, and said some had jumped from windows to try to escape from the flames.
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an industrial city of more than half a million, it is one of russia's biggest coal producing regions, more than 2,000 kilometres east of moscow. already there are reports the fire began near a cinema and children's entertainment centre. president putin has already sent his condolences to friends and family of the victims. authorities say a criminal investigation will now begin to try to find out what caused the fire. andrew plant, bbc news. paul adams is in moscow with the latest on this. what is the latest? the investigations have, the investigators have got a lot of figurine out to do and that investigation has onlyjust begun. a torrent of videos and comments on social media that have come out in
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the hours since this fire broke out. all of which paint a grim picture of a desperate scene inside that very large complex. we still haven't had the full recovery of bodies, the death toll has been creeping up on the course of the morning, while the number of missing has been creeping down. i think part of the problem is, as you just heard, the top floor partially collapsed and the rescuers have had difficulty accessing that area. ithink have had difficulty accessing that area. i think only once they have got in there will we know the full number of fatalities. meanwhile, some of those accounts from people trapped inside talk about people desperately trying to break down fire doors that were blocked, repeatedly people saying they heard no fire alarm and that the rescue services were slow to arrive to rescue people who had clambered up onto the roof. we have seen pictures of some people hurling themselves from windows to try and get out of the thick belching black smoke that
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was billowing through the corridors of the whole complex. we have heard there have been a handful, we are not sure if they were arrested or people pulled in for questioning, owners or people leasing shops inside. an oligarch based in australia is also being looked for to a nswer australia is also being looked for to answer questions. a lot of questions will need to be asked about the fire. and the security arrangements in that building and i think this investigation will take quite some time to come up with any real a nswers. quite some time to come up with any real answers. thank you. the american porn star stormy daniels, who claims to have had an affair with donald trump, says she received threats to keep quiet about the alleged relationship. she said the affair took place in california in 2006, a year after mr trump and his wife melania got married. she gave her first televised interview on american broadcaster cbs. a guy walked up on me and said to me, "leave trump
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alone, forget the story". then he leaned around and looked at my daughter and said, "a beautiful little girl, it'd be a shame if something happened to her mum". the brexit activist who has accused the vote leave campaign of exceeding legal spending limits said his claims will be backed up by evidence presented to mps. shahmir sanni alleged that the official brexit campaign used a different group, beleave, to overspend. both groups deny any wrongdoing. bereaved parents are losing thousand of pounds of bereavement payments after a change in the system. last april, the government cut the amount of financial support for a child who has lost a parent, from up until they reach the age of 18, to nowjust 18 months after the loss of their parent. those on the new system tell this programme they are worried about what happens when the money runs out. we will have an exclusive film and
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that in the next few minutes. an 11—year—old boy has received £42,000 in compensation after his family said his cub scout group discriminated against him for having autism. ben gleesonjoined a group in hertfordshire in 2015, but was later told he could not go to camps or take part in athletics without supervision. his family sued the group, saying it amounted to a ban and the dispute was settled out of court last year. the scout association said it had apologised and started an inquiry. the bbc understands that the investigation into the disappearance of raf airman corrie mckeague is to be stood down. mr mckeague, who was 23 when he went missing, was last seen in the early of hours of 2a september 2016 walking into a bin loading bay in bury st edmunds. a search of a landfill site in milton, cambridgeshire, came to an end in december and suffolk police said "no trace" of him had been found. for the first time, british nationals made up the majority of reported modern slavery and trafficking victims in the uk, according to the national crime agency.
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more than 5000 cases were identified last year by the authorities, and over 800 of them were british. the number of children thought to be involved rose by two—thirds. the home office says greater awareness and improved understanding of modern slavery are helping to identify potential victims. disabled passengers who are stranded on planes at heathrow airport will not be compensated, its chief executive says. it comes after the bbc‘s frank gardner criticised the airport after he was left waiting for 100 minutes because his wheelchair had been misplaced by ground staff. ceo john holland kaye says it's not reasonable that the airport should take financial responsibility. now, you've heard of a 101 dalmations, but how about 600 and one
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dachshunds? the sausage dogs and their owners gathered on perranporth beach in cornwall in an attempt to beat a record. i haven't seen these pictures. 500 of the breed met on a beach in south wales last year, but that total was easily surpassed by this gathering. "sausage fest", as the organisers labelled it, attracted 601 daschunds to the cornish sands. fabulous. let me read you some comments on anti—semitism within the labour party. before we bring you the sport. we will talk about this in the next hour of the programme. interested to hear from you if you are part of the labour party. of uss accusing jeremy corbyn of anti—semitism looks like an attack from right wing mps and jewish groups, while westernising claims of anti—semitism in order to smear him,
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to scupper labour's chances of success in may's collections and ultimately to replace him as labour leader. a text says, an apology from jeremy corbyn is meaningless. he is anti—semitic and another says, false allegations of anti—semitism propagated by the media, it is all to do damage tojeremy corbyn and it is shameful. we will talk to the labourmp is shameful. we will talk to the labour mp john mann after 9:30am. is shameful. we will talk to the labour mpjohn mann after 9:30am. he says labour have to root out what he calls this cancer of anti—semitism within the party. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. jessica is here. we will talk about this absolute scandal around australia in a moment but before that, england have lost another test match in new zealand? yes, exactly. england captain joe root match in new zealand? yes, exactly. england captainjoe root has questioned the team's consistency after a heavy defeat to new zealand. you will remember england's dismal
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first—innings total of 58, which a lwa ys first—innings total of 58, which always meant it would be really tough to try and salvage anything from this first test. not even their best player ben stokes, made a patient 66 runs, could prevent his side from a tenth loss in 12 overseas test matches. he and chris woa kes, overseas test matches. he and chris woakes, who overseas test matches. he and chris woa kes, who made overseas test matches. he and chris woakes, who made a half—century, built a decent stand. chris woakes was dismissed beforejimmy anderson was dismissed beforejimmy anderson was the last man out. england lost by an innings and 49 runs. after the match, joe root admitted the team simply weren't good enough in the first—innings and will need to improve ahead of the second test, which starts thursday. that test gets under way at 11pm on thursday and coverage on test match special on five live. everyone still talking about australia cheating in the game against south africa. what happens now to the captain and others? exactly. widespread condemnation
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even the australian prime minister has had his say. itjust gives you a sense of the enormity of what's happened. just to recap and make sure everyone is aware happened. just to recap and make sure everyone is aware of what has happened. australia's captain steve smith and cameron bancroft have admitted to premeditated tampering to the ball in their test match against south africa. a few sports pages have raised questions about australia's conduct in the recent ashes series, which they dominated against england. there are quotes from the england bowler stuart broad who questions ms's claim the tampering was a one—off. he says, if you look at the ashes series be displayed, they reverse swung the ball in almost all of those matches. sometimes in conditions where you wouldn't expect the ball to reverse, andindeed wouldn't expect the ball to reverse, and indeed the cricket analyst simon hughes says he is surprised if this is the first time it ever happened. there were certainly rumours they have done it before. all teams try it and most of them are only using
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legal means, but 12—macro teams attempted try illegal means. generally, i think there is so much at stake with a series like australia against south africa, they wanted to win it, of course, to reaffirm their status as one of the best teams in the world. what i think it proves it international cricketers do live in a sort of parallel universe. they don't believe they are going to get caught and they don't believe they have done anything terribly wrong. so yes, australian players, steve smith and cameron bancroft widely criticised by one question that remains is how high up the australian hierarchy this went. 0ne australian hierarchy this went. 0ne australian journalist says australian journalist says australian head coach darren lehmann's position is now untenable. the question is what is darren
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lehmann doing. then the coming days, i don't think he will be the coach any more of the team. cricket australia investigating this entire incident and such a fall from grace for steve smith, one of the most popular and high profile figures, now it looks as if he will look to lose that captaincy. thank you, jess. we talk more about the cheating scandal in cricket later. it's called the benefit no—one wants to receive — the bereavement support payment is given to a married parent when their partner dies — to help provide financial support for the child. that payment used to last for up to 20 years, but last april it was reduced to 18 months. now this programme can reveal figures which show 3500 people with children have qualified for the new benefit — and some of them will lose as much as £100,000 over their child's life compared to the previous system.
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the life matters bereavement task force have told us the change has considerably added to grieving families stress levels — and fear some parents will need to work multiple jobs just to get by. 0ur reporter anna collinson has visited two mothers who were some of the first to receive the new benefit. they both say they're extremely worried what will happen when their financial lifeline runs out... mama! the mama, is she going in the bath again? there's the mama. little daddy! shall we dance with little daddy? because sometimes, this is little daddy, isn't it? and he does kisses! and mummy. thea leeper is 19 months old, and has spent most of her life without a dad. little daddy jumps. daddyjumps. all she really has is other people's memories of her dad, matt. that picture of daddy, that was when daddy
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and mummy got married. this is matt here, and this is my favourite photo because this is taken about two weeks after thea was born, and matt isjust so proud, he was so proud of having his little family unit. are you going to come up to? we're looking at photos, aren't we? who's that? daddy. that's right! it is. after matt's death ten months ago, thea and her mum can't afford to live in theirfamily home. granny is making little cakes for us! they're currently staying with matt's parents, which definitely has its benefits. but this family's grief is still raw, and the smallest things can trigger it. and all of those blts. constant blts! he had lots of blts! give granny a hug. look, granny's leaking.
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granny's sad because she misses daddy. that's right, yeah. losing a parent means children can suddenly find themselves in a very grown—up world, particularly now. it used to be that if you were a parent and your husband or wife died, the government would give you £2000 and a monthly benefit, which would help with things like child care and could last for up to 20 years. but, after april 6th 2017, everything changed. now, a parent whose husband or wife dies will receive a slightly bigger one—off payment but, crucially, the monthly benefit will last for 18 months instead of up to 20 years. the government claimed the old system acted like a trap which prevented bereaved parents
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adjusting to single life. particularly women, who are now more likely to work. that's why we're trying to modernise this support to a simple, uniform and easy—to—understand benefit that reflects better society. i think we should support families who are in grief. i don't think we should ask them to take on poverty and possible debt on top of dealing with grief. with cash payments being limited to 18 months, grief has, in effect, been given a sell—by date. if only, mr chair, if only grief was like that. good morning, it's tuesday, it's 9am, i'm victoria derbyshire... a dying man we named alan worked out his family were going to lose £50,000 under the new system. he believed that was money they deserved because of his national insurance contributions. you're contemplating death, and you want to go out of this world with some dignity, with some grace, with some peace of mind. not full of financial anxiety, feeling that the government has just
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taken money away from you that you'd earned legitimately. the majority of mps voted in favour of the bereavement support payment. three weeks after it was brought in, alan died. his family have now told us... there was a lot of anger when the bereavement benefit cuts were brought in. they were called cruel and wrong, but now, nearly a year on, how are they really affecting recently—widowed parents and, of course, their children? a freedom of information request
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by the victoria derbyshire programme has found 3500 people with children have qualified for the new bereavement support payment after the death of their husband, wife, or civil partner. in some cases, families are missing out on up to £100,000 over time, compared to the previous system. the life matters task force is a group of charities and experts who were angered by last year's changes and have been working together to help those affected. the task force have told this programme bereaved families are now experiencing additional suffering on top of an already distressing situation, and that they're seriously concerned about what will happen when the payments stop in six months' time. in the shadow of mount snowdon is bangor. it's home to becky williams and her two boys. three people live in this house, but everywhere you look there are the reminders of a fourth.
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husband and dad irfon. we were together for ten years, ten very happy years. we were best friends. irfon was a person who was full of fun, a la rger—than—life character, i'd say, and was a friend to everybody. even a cancer diagnosis couldn't stop irfon. in three years, he raised £150,000 to help other people living with the disease. we had factored in that there would be a widow's allowance of £400 a month, and that was reassuring because it meant that i would be able to work part—time. and then a few weeks later ijust happened to be looking through twitter on a coffee break and i saw a tweet by rio ferdinand, he was slamming the cuts to the benefits. and, yeah, fear.
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i went cold, i realised that was going to affect me, that irfon was going to die and that i wouldn't be in receipt of the money that we'd sat down and planned for. we lived with a lot of stress. and knowing that he was terminally ill and that one day, you know, he wasn't going to recover, and when that day came that was still... although you know, you never prepare yourself for it. we knew it was the last few days, we just said goodbye, and were able to just... erm... i guess... there wasn't anything we needed to say, butjust try and accept it together. and it's very difficult to think about now, yeah. i guess you feel it's happening to somebody else, it's never happening to you.
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just seeing the children was really difficult. irfon died last may. he was 46. irfon loved picking the boys up. we did most things together. he was a great father, and he loved being part of the community and school. that's one time i think is difficult, is kind of when all the other couples are around and i'm on my own. you know, parents evening, that kind of thing. things where... where i know he'd be very proud, so it's not necessarily i feel it for me, i feel it for him. you know, he's missing out on so much. that's tough. becky's heart may be broken, but it doesn't stop chores needing to be done or bills needing to be paid, and all the while the clock is ticking on when the family's bereavement support payment will run out. under the old system, it could've
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lasted for at least another decade, as long as becky didn't remarry. now, it will only last for six more months. if there's a wave of grief, i can feel extremely low. financial worries are dreadful on top of all that. i received the 3500 payment at the beginning, and that helped to pay for the funeral. it's the bereaved children who are going to suffer. why are we punishing children? why are we making things more difficult for them? becky has an idea what her two boys are going through. her own father died from cancer when she was 14. the interesting thing is obviously my mum did receive the widow's benefit, and that enabled her to be around for us, and i, looking back now as an adult, see the huge benefit in that. she was upset that i wouldn't be receiving it. i'm a nurse.
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i want to work, it's important for me to do that. what the benefit does do is support me to work less hours so i can get that balance as a single parent now to be around for the children. there may be some people who are watching who are in the same position as you but they're not married and because of that they don't receive the same financial support support that you do and might actually be envious of you. how does that make you feel? that's a difficult feeling. they should've looked at offering this to unmarried bereaved parents. that's modern society, isn't it? so on one hand you say you're modernising things, but yet you're not including the more modern family. this benefit isn't anything any of us want, none of us want to be in this situation. i'd rather my husband than £350 a month. but i am in this situation, and so i have to be mum and dad
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to my boys, i have to make sure they're emotionally secure and safe, and that small amount of money goes a long way to help me to provide that for my children. the government predicted in the long term this change to the bereavement benefit would end up saving them £100 million a year. over the past 12 months, the department for work and pensions has repeatedly refused our programme an interview on this issue. instead, they've given us a statement. so, chloe, this bedroom is now your home, yours and thea's home? yes, yes, this is all my worldly goods in here, everything i've
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taken from the house, the most important things to me, which are my collection of paintings, my desk, so i can do a little bit of work while thea naps, and my books. and there's a picture of matt as well. and obviously matt, yeah. matt leeper died from bone cancer aged 39 last may. the impact is... it's kind of unfathomable. sometimes my brain almost doesn't let me think about it. i don't get that much chance, but it was a true partnership. i've gone from being a wife to a wonderful husband and true partner, to being a mother living with my in—laws who,
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luckily, are wonderful and i get on really well with. do you want to get up now? are you awake? have you had a nice nap? was that good? want to come up, then? the moment that i found out about the new system was when the bereavement support officer sat down with me and said to me, "i almost don't want to tell you what you would have been supported with for thea before." so, yeah, sat down and she said, yes, it's 18 months instead of 18 years, and it was like... well, you know, it wasjust, it seemed crazy that the legislation could be so different. i was so pleased matt didn't know. you're one of the first people who have used this new bereavement system. if i was someone from the government, what would you say to me now about how you think it's working? i would say, please extend it to support my child until she's 18.
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a child is not going to get over the loss of their parent in 18 months. it's ridiculous. they can't then have their other parent go off and not be there for them too, because no—one's got a nice comfortable job where they go off to work at ten and come back at three in time to pick up the children, there's all of this extra childcare involved in it. for me, it feels like a very cynical government decision, because of course the people that it affects are the people that are in the least position to do anything about it, because we've all just lost our partners. after 10, we will hear from a woman who has been widowed twice in the past five years. she has received both bereavement benefits. she's worked out under the new system she will miss out on around £80,000 across 15 years. despite repeated requests, the department for work and pensions turned down our requst
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for an interview. they do, however, say the new system gives families a tax—free amount and had been modernised to take into account the number of women in work. if you've been affected by these reforms, then do let me know your own experience because we're going to talk about this more after 10. still to come: we'll be speaking to the 11—year—old boy who took his cub scouts to court — and won — after he was discriminated against because of his autism. wendy on twitter says, ‘i'm devastated for uk scouting. 0k, they made a mistake, they're systematically trurning kids around. i've seen it with my own eyes". and — labour mpjohn mannjoins us. he'll tell us why he believes "the labour party ceases to have a reason for existence if it cannot stand up against discrimination", and anti—semitism within the party. this e—mailfrom
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this e—mail from jackie, given the number of occasions jeremy corbyn has missed or not recognised imported or controversial issues or associations he has, which the majority of us would recognise immediately, should we not buy now be questioning his fitness to lead the labour party? more on that in the labour party? more on that in the next half—hour. time for the latest news with joanna. jewish leaders have accused jeremy corbyn of repeatedly siding with people with anti—semitic views. the accusation is made in an open letter published by the board of deputies of britishjews and thejewish leadership council, and follows the controversy over the labour's leader facebook comment on a mural widely regarded to be anti—semitic. it comes after an apology from jeremy corbyn for what he called "pockets of antisemitism" in his party. at least 56 people have died and many are still missing after a fire broke out at a shopping centre in siberia. the blaze started on an upper floor of the shopping complex while many of the victims
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were in cinema halls. russian officials say many children are feared to be among the victims. the american porn star stormy daniels, who claims to have had an affair with donald trump, says she received threats to keep quiet about the alleged relationship. she said the affair took place in california in 2006, a year after mr trump and his wife melania got married. she gave her first televised interview on american broadcaster cbs. an 11—year—old boy has received £42,000 in compensation after his family said his cub scout group discriminated against him for having autism. ben gleesonjoined a group in hertfordshire in 2015, but was later told he could not go to camps or take part in athletics without supervision. his family sued the group, saying it amounted to a ban and the dispute was settled out of court last year. the scout association said it had apologised and started an inquiry. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. thank you very much.
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here's some sport now withjess. the sports headlines this morning, england lost the first test to new zealand by an innings and 49 runs, despite a patient 66 from the all—rounder ben stokes. he couldn't help england falling to their tenth defeat in 12 overseas test matches. the crisis in goal for cricket continues as steve smith is banned for one match and find his match fee after tampering with their cricket ball in the match against south africa. johanna konta will face venus williams for a place in the miami open quarterfinals. she is hoping to defend the title she won last year. she secured a place in the last 16 by beating elise mertens. ronnie 0'sullivan beat shaun murphy in the players championship to claim a joint record fifth title of the season. he is now just three short of steven hendry‘s record of 38. that is all be for now. back with a full bulletin after
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10am. "enough is enough" — that's the message from jewish groups to jeremy corbyn, who've accused him of failing to tackle anti—semitism. jewish leaders have used an open letter to accuse the labour leader of siding with anti—semites "again and again" — saying he never sees or understands prejudice againstjewish people. mr corbyn says in a statement that he's "sincerely sorry" for what he called "pockets of anti—semitism" within the party. a protest rally will be held in westminster later today. labour's deputy leader tom watson was questioned about the row by andrew marr yesterday. can i ask you to look at this? what is your reaction when you see that image? my reaction is that is a horrible, anti—semitic mural that was rightly taken down. and how long did it take you to glance at that, to make that judgment? well, look, you're showing it me on a 32 inch screen on national television, and i've seen it about 100
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times on social media, very different to seeing it on facebook, when you're on the move. because your leader apparently glanced at it, didn't look at it properly and suggested to the guy who'd written that it shouldn't be taken down... he said, and i quote, "some of the older white jewish folk in the local community had an issue with me portraying their beloved hashtag rothschild or hashtag wahlberg as the demons they are". he said it was being whitewashed and taken down. jeremy corbyn said, why? you're in good company. rockefeller destroyed diego rivera's mural because it includes a picture of lenin, which was a remarkable thing to say. 0nly need to glance at that to see what it's about, its third reich propaganda anti—semitism. well, look, that is byjeremy has expressed deep regret and apologised for that and has actually said it was right the mural was taken down. and yet, it's taken years for some of your colleagues to get him to respond to this. luciana burger, ajewish labour mp, has been trying to get a response
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out ofjeremy corbyn for a long, long time and she is still very, very upset that he has not completely, fully apologised for this. i'm very, very sorry that people feel hurt by this, and that's why i think it's right thatjeremy has expressed regret for it. he said that he didn't see the mural, he was talking about free expression, and i think now that he has seen the mural, he is right to say it it was right notjust to be removed but that he expresses deep regret. despite that labour in these broken ra nks despite that labour in these broken ranks to speak out against mr corbyn the issue. former labour leadership candidate liz kendall says, "a truly terrible day when @boardofdeputies & @j lc—uk feel the need to write such a letter. no one in @uklabour should try & minimise or downplay this." wes streeting says: stella creasy says:
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chukka umuna says: labour mpjohn mann is with us now. he sasteremy corbyn needs to "cleanse the party of the cancer of anti—semitism". of course we also wanted an mp with us this morning who would defend the labour leader — but none would talk to us this morning.. we're alsojoined by karen pollock from the holocaust educational trust. welcome to both of you. thank you for coming on the programme. in your view, john mann, is your leader jeremy corbyn anti—semitic? view, john mann, is your leader jeremy corbyn anti-semitic? what jeremy corbyn anti-semitic? what jeremy corbyn anti-semitic? what jeremy corbyn is failing to do. you
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think i don't know, i don't think... you don't think so? it's for him to explain his actions on that mural but what i do know is he has failed to ta ke but what i do know is he has failed to take action on removing anti—semites from the labour party. there are an increasing number of them who have joined, there are an increasing number of them who havejoined, explicit anti—semites. i defended jeremy to the jewish community after the anti—semites. i defended jeremy to thejewish community after the —— over the last three years. in answer to your question, i don't think in his party is an anti—semite. but where is the leadership in driving the anti—semites out of the labour party? you want him to be the next leader of the labour party and you are not sure if he is anti—semitic? having seen that mural, i am astonished. that mural is classic anti—semitism, identicalto astonished. that mural is classic anti—semitism, identical to what was used by the nazis in their propaganda in the 30s. there is no ambiguity about it. i am astonished any senior politician of any kind
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cannot recognise that that anti—semitism... cannot recognise that that anti-semitism. .. bearing that in mind, is he fit to be prime minister? he needs to answer. he needs to be on your show answering why he failed to see that, but he will only be store any trust from the jewish community by will only be store any trust from thejewish community by taking action. there are in the labour party some appalling examples of anti—semitism on the internet from labour party members, some shocking stuff. this isn't just labour party members, some shocking stuff. this isn'tjust about words, either. the police are currently investigating yet another threat against me and my family. that is from an anti—semite on the left, threats of violence. you have to ask, what is going on at the moment? this isn't a new problem. ifirst raised this 101112 years ago. so i ask you again, you think he is fit to be prime minister? if he's incapable of dealing with this problem now, then the labour party will not survive. but i am asking
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you, with everything you have laid out this morning, do you think he is fit to be ronni? he is not going to be prime minister of this country if he doesn't need and sort this problem. if he cannot sort this problem. if he cannot sort this problem now, he will not be the prime minister of the country. we will not be in power. and frankly, the labour party has an even bigger crisis than that. this is about the existence of the labour party. the labour party was formed to deal with prejudice and discrimination. it has beenin prejudice and discrimination. it has been in our dna for 100 and more yea rs of been in our dna for 100 and more years of our history. if he fails to deal with this, he destroys the very essence of the labour party. june 2016, jeremy corbyn said, to assume ajewish friend 2016, jeremy corbyn said, to assume a jewish friend of fellow member is wealthy, some kind of financial media conspiracy or takes a on politics in general and israel and palestine in particular isjust wrong. 0urjewish friends at no more responsible for the actions of
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israel than our muslim friends are for those various self—styled islamic state organisations. june 2017 in the run—up to the general election, he reaffirmed the pa rty‘s general election, he reaffirmed the party's commitment to building a society free of racism, anti—semitism and islamophobia. september 2017, party members backed a move to toughen labour's regulation on incidents involving racism, anti—semitism or islamophobia. it seems to sum it doesn't matter what he says, it's never enough for people like yourself. it's what he does, the anti—semites, during that period, who is paying you, is israel pain you? and what should they do about those tweets? expel them, kick them out of the labour party ,, threw them out, tell them publicly you are not welcome in a political party like ours, we don't want
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racists, threw them out and make a big song and dance about throwing them out, but has not happened. ken livingstone has been kicked out indefinitely. he hasn't been kicked out, he has been suspended indefinitely. karen, let me bring you in, jeremy corbyn's statement last night, he apologised, he said i wa nt to last night, he apologised, he said i want to be clear i won't tolerate any form of anti—semitism that exists in or around the movement, we must stamp it out in the party and midland, we recognise anti—semitism has occurred in pockets throughout the labour party causing shame and hurt and the labour party causing shame and hurtandi the labour party causing shame and hurt and i am sincerely sorry for the pain which has been caused. is that enough for you? the pain which has been caused. is that enough for you ?|j the pain which has been caused. is that enough for you? i think the question is why did he wait three years to make a statement like that. referring to pockets in the labour
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party as a this is something on the fringe, it's not really happening, the fact is when we were accused, the fact is when we were accused, the holocaust educational trust of espousing zionist conspiracy tales orfairy espousing zionist conspiracy tales or fairy tales when people have said things like jews are kidnapping children and running the world, was that not enough? my view is that should not come to the point where jewish leadership have to write a very strongly worded letter, for jews are going to come to parliament and people who oppose anti—semitism say enough is enough, why should it come to this? i use saying that apology is not enough for your trust? in my view, in my view the apology is a start, he doesn't make apology is a start, he doesn't make a full apology for his own actions, i'm afraid! a full apology for his own actions, i'm afraid i have to go back to that nero, it was blatantly anti—semitic, adequate dance you can see it's anti—semitic, anyone can and i'm afraid it raises the question of how is that possible for a leader of the
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mainstream political party not only to remain silent when there is anti—semitism, to ignore it and therefore be complicit in alarming it and giving it a licence to thrive but even when it's staring him in the facey can somehow see it. we are going to show that it and i am going to give time for any viewers who do not wish to see it, he may be offended by it to switch away or switch over, before we show it. this is what he said about this new role. i sincerely regret i did not look more closely at the image i was commenting on. the contents of which are deeply disturbing and anti—semitic. i wholeheartedly support its removal. why is that not enough? it's very strange, this was in 2012, he defended the right for the art to be there. what about freedom of speech? rather than asking why are we having an
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anti—semitic mural on display. that statement was the second statement within a day, not an apology, not taking responsibility and quite frankly, the jewish community, we don't want to be dealing with anti—semitism day in, day out, we wa nt anti—semitism day in, day out, we want to live our lives. this is ridiculous. at the holocaust educational trust, our ridiculous. at the holocaust educationaltrust, ourwork ridiculous. at the holocaust educational trust, our work is about educating young people, standing up against hatred and prejudice and anti—semitism yet i find myself regularly having to put out statements rebutting various anti—semitic remarks that have been made or postings of holocaust denial is by labour party members, enough is by labour party members, enough is enough. john mann said people who say or post anti—semitic comments or who abuse jewish say or post anti—semitic comments or who abusejewish labour members should be kicked out of the party immediately. without we reassured you or would you want to see further action? to me, it's obvious, if we we re action? to me, it's obvious, if we were talking about anywhere it would
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bea were talking about anywhere it would be a straightforward action, wouldn't it? if someone commits any form of racism, they are not welcome, of course that would be a welcome, of course that would be a welcome step but i'm afraid the question for me now is, three years on, we are exhausted, fed up, we keep on saying this is a problem, why is it that he has not been able to recognise it? why do you think? he seems to have a blind spot, people around him must have a blind spot when it comes to anti—semitism and for someone who claims he is a champion against all forms of racism, there is a serious question... are you saying there are some people who feel comfortable underjourney corbin's leadership because of what you describe as a blind spot that allows them to posters say anti—semitic comments? rightly or wrongly people who express these views regard jeremy corbyn as their figurehead, he is the only person who can put a stop to it. you will know, john mann,
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there are critics saying that people like yourself and others are using this but to mr clay because you are not particular fans ofjeremy corbyn. —— using this opportunistically. i was there at the weekend after 0wen smith was sacked. this is a bigger issue than jeremy corbyn, this is about the leader of the labour party and the future of the labour party, the leader of the labour party has to be the person who takes the lead in fighting discrimination in this country and if you cannot do it in your own party against racists in your own party against racists in your own party against racists in your own party, what else can you do? i have said our very existence asa do? i have said our very existence as a party is that thread with this and it will take time, if it's buried away inside the party in terms of turning us rotten to the core, that's what happens if you fail to do with racism, he has not gotten rid of these people, i am
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calling on him to take a properly done that is a starting point but it isa done that is a starting point but it is a very big starting point, throw them out and threw them out immediately and very publicly, if he does not, he will come to rue the day. baikal e-mails and says jeremy corbyn is not fit to lead any party u nless corbyn is not fit to lead any party unless it's based in moscow. tony says i agree withjohn mann, any incident of anti—semitism in labour should mean whoever does it gets booted out at blaming jeremy corbyn for this is nonsense. trish says there are many jewish for this is nonsense. trish says there are manyjewish groups who supportjeremy corbyn, why do you only interview one side, your programme is usually more balanced, iam very programme is usually more balanced, i am very dissatisfied. 0bviously programme is usually more balanced, i am very dissatisfied. obviously we tried to talk to a lot of labour mps and members of the labour party to find somebody who would speak in defence ofjeremy corbyn but we were unable to. what's really important victoria to point out to the viewers is the seriousness of this, this is the leadership of thejewish
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community, this is not certain groups within thejewish community, this has never happened before, it's quite an astonishing day, this is the leadership of thejewish community, saying to us in the labour party, get your house in order and do something, it's very big, this isn'tjust a few groups, this is thejewish community. big, this isn'tjust a few groups, this is the jewish community. and i would add it's depressing, for jewish people in britain, we are sitting around friday night dinner tables for the sabbath and when we hear, we've heard about this new role, not a full apology from the leader of the mainstream political party but every week we are talking about it, we don't want to be and i think it's unprecedented but we all feel we need to gather together and we are going to today at 5:30pm in parliament square, all those who oppose anti—semitism will join parliament square, all those who oppose anti—semitism willjoin us and we want to say, enough is enough and we want to say, enough is enough and we want to say no more anti—semitism but it isn'tjust words. thank you both very much.
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thank you. your views welcome of course. coming up... we'll be speaking to recipients of the benefit no—one wants to receive — the bereavement support payment — and finding out how changes to the payments last year are now affecting them. if you want to have your say, get in touch. an 11—year—old boy has received £42,000 in compensation after his family said his cub scout group discriminated against him for having autism. ben gleesonjoined a group in hertfordshire in 2015, but was later told he could not go to camps or take part in athletics without supervision. his family sued the group — saying it amounted to a ban — and the dispute was settled out of court last year. the scout association has apologised, says the handling of ben's case was ‘completely unacceptable'. let's speak to ben — and his parents mark and beverly gleeson who join us from their home in hertfordshire. and in sheffield is chris fry, their solictor. .. thank you all very much for talking
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to us, ben, good morning, can you hear me? yes, i can hear you. to us, ben, good morning, can you hear me? yes, i can hearyou. thank you for talking to us, i wonder if you for talking to us, i wonder if you could tell our audience what you enjoy about going to scouts?|j enjoy about going to scouts?” enjoyed the camps, i enjoy it some of the stuff we did outside, i sometimes enjoyed the games we played inside, and what kind of badgers do during? -- badges did you earn? a bit of a mix, stuff like athletics, and... i can't really remember now. that's all right, are you hoping to go to another scout group? no, not really. really? yes,
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i don't really want to. mark and beverly thank you so much for talking to us. explain to our audience fight you decided to sue the scout group. we decided to sue the scout group. we decided to sue the scout group because we'd tried to have a dialogue with them and discuss with them a reasonable adjustment for ben and we were just getting stonewalled and at that time, ben wanted to be a part of it, he wanted to continue, be with his friends, do all the activities they enjoyed under was the only way we felt to get him back in and we also felt to get him back in and we also felt our trip went was so bad that we had to raise awareness and you know, get some sense out of this. we hoped at an early stage by suing them national hq would get involved and see that their policies weren't being followed at local level but
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sadly it's not until the bbc got involved that national headquarters have apologised to us and asked us to work with them to improve things for other children like ben. mark, specifically... going back to your question to ben about, asking about joining another scout group, unfortunately during our discussion with the group, messages were sent out to and rumours were created which meant that no other group in the town would take us on, take them on and that was part of the action. so in effect... i understand. we can't find a place. sure. what specifically was then experiencing when he went to the particular scout group in terms of what you considered to be rumination? well,
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then had been a beaver and a cub scout for three years and he went to all the meetings by himself, without any assistance, everyone was happy. we always attended camps with him, we always went as support for him on camps but we knew he'd be moving to the scout so we agreed with leaders he was ready and they all agreed he was mature enough and they thought he could handle matters and he could go on his first camp on his own, sadly he wasn't very well in the lead up to it so he arrived a day later and got quite upset and they insisted on him wearing indoor shoes, i spoke to me on the phone andl shoes, i spoke to me on the phone and i said just let him where his socks, he will be fine, i've packed plenty, they said no, we can't do that, everyone else is doing this, wearing shoes, i said ok, you all write to handle it, should i come, they said we are handling it, it's fine, they rang shortly after and
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they said they had three leaders on him, could can him down, i said we told you to give him space, don't worry, i will come, told you to give him space, don't worry, iwill come, settled him down, he stayed overnight without us, 21 hours, ken hom, he said he has had a fab time the rest of the camp, immediately after they said they wanted one—to—one supervision for all external activities, we questioned this, said he doesn't have this at school, you never asked for it before, camp is different to the now and a half he has always attended fine without us at which point they then excluded him from travelling on the bus and excluded him from athletics and carting. and we couldn't reach an agreement with his level of participation so they then told us we had to leave.” his level of participation so they then told us we had to leave. i am going to bring in your solicitor, if i may. chris, thank you for talking to us. what do you say to those people and i've had some messages this morning saying that seems
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really unfair is suing them for £42,000 when these are volunteers who give up their time to try to help children turn their lives around or have fun or experience things they wouldn't normally experience? i would say the purpose of the equality act and the duties for reasonable adjustment are about making organisations like the scouts more inclusive and accessible. any volunteer working within the scouting association is going to wa nt to scouting association is going to want to sure about valuable experience with as many cubs and scouts as possible so i think clearly the scouting association recognises that it needed to do more, it had a duty to make reasonable adjustments and it needs to make sure those volunteers giving up to make sure those volunteers giving up theirtime to make sure those volunteers giving up their time day by day, hour after hour actually understand what the duties are and how to make scouting more accessible and i think that's a great thing. thank you. thank you
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all. for your time. we appreciated. thank you for talking to us. the latest news and sport coming up but first the weather. yesterday a pleasant day with blue skies and butchers in double figures. this morning for many it is a fine start. we have some blue skies. it is a bit cold. a bit chilly first thing. some frost, as we had in cumbria. you can see that whiteness on the ground. but look at those blue skies. a lovely start to the day. many of us will keep some sunshine but outlawed the west, the cloud will increase, bringing outbreaks of rain in northern ireland after lunchtime. some of that brain edging into the far south—west of wales, south—western parts of england. ahead of that, some say whether cloud developing. plenty of dry weather. those temperatures getting up into double figures. through this evening and at night, some unsettled conditions arriving. that will persist into the
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rest of the week. rain spreads north and east, a spell of hill snow in scotland, but during tuesday, that rain clears away. followed by sunny spells and england and wales. temperatures up to 14 degrees but turning much colder across scotland. bye— bye. hello, it's monday, it's 10 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. our top story today — jeremy corbyn says he's sorry for pockets of anti—semitism in the labour party — but a jewish leader says it's not enough — and one of his own backbenchers says the leader must get a grip on the issue. if he fails to deal with this, then he destroys the very essence of the labour party. plenty more reaction to come throughout the morning on that story. also on the programme — it's called the benefit that
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no—one wants to receive— and now it's been cut. we speak to the bereaved parents who're losing out on tens of thousands of pounds in bereavement payments. a child is not going to get over the loss of their parent in 18 months. it's ridiculous. they can't then have their other parent go off and not be there for them too, because nobody‘s got a nice comfortable job where they go off to work at 10 and comeback at 3, in time to pick up the children. we'll look at the impact of changes to the bereavement support payment and keen to hear your experience throughout the progrmame this morning. and — donald trump and the porn star who claims she was threatened and intimidated to keep quiet about a sexual relationship she had with the president 12 years ago. a guy walked up on me and said to me, "leave trump loan, forget the story". then he leaned around and looked at my daughter and said, a beautiful girl, it would be a shame if something happened to her mum. good morning. here'sjoanna in the bbc newsroom
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with a summary of todays news. jewish leaders have accused jeremy corbyn of repeatedly siding with people with anti—semitic views. the accusation is made in an open letter published by the board of deputies of british dues and thejewish leadership council, and follows the controversy over the labour's leader facebook comment on a mural widely regarded to be anti—semitic. jeremy corbyn has issued an apology for what he called "pockets of anti—semitism" in his party. in the last few minutes, the labour mpjohn mann has told this programme that unless mr corbyn stood up against anti—semitism in labour, the party would collapse. he is not going to be prime minister of this country, if he doesn't lead and sort this problem. so it becomes self defining, if he can't sort this problem now, he will not be the prime minister of the country, we will not be in power. and frankly, the labour party has an even bigger crisis than that, because this is about the actual existence of the labour party. the labour party was formed to deal with prejudice and discrimination. it's been in our dna throughout our 100 more years history. if he fails to deal with this, then he destroys the very essence
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of the labour party. at least 64 people have died and many are still missing after a fire broke out at a shopping centre in siberia. the blaze started on an upper floor of the shopping complex while many of the victims were in cinema halls. russian officials say many children are feared to be among the victims. the american porn star stormy daniels, who claims to have had an affair with donald trump, says she received threats to keep quiet about the alleged relationship. she said the affair took place in california in 2006, a year after mr trump and his wife melania got married. she gave her first televised interview on american broadcaster cbs. a guy walked up on me and said to me, "leave trump alone, forget the story". then he leaned around and looked at my daughter and said, "a beautiful little girl, it'd be a shame if something happened to her mum". the brexit activist who has accused the vote leave campaign of exceeding legal spending limits said his claims will be backed up by evidence presented to mps.
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shahmir sanni alleged that the official brexit campaign used a different group, beleave, to overspend. both groups deny any wrongdoing. an 11—year—old boy has received £42,000 in compensation after his family said his cub scout group discriminated against him for having autism. ben gleesonjoined a group in hertfordshire in 2015, but was later told he could not go to camps or take part in athletics without supervision. his family sued the group — saying it amounted to a ban — and the dispute was settled out of court last year. the scout association said it had apologised and started an inquiry. ben's mum told victoria why they had chosen to take legal action. we hoped that at an early stage that by suing them national hq would get involved and see that their policies weren't being followed at a local level. but sadly it's not until the
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bbc got involved that actually national headquarters have apologised to us and asked us to work with them to improve things for other children like ben. the bbc understands that the investigation into the disappearance of raf airman corrie mckeague is to be stood down. mr mckeague, who was 23 when he went missing, was last seen in the early of hours of 24th september 2016, walking into a bin loading bay in bury st edmunds. a search of a landfill site in milton, cambridgeshire, came to an end in december and suffolk police said "no trace" of him had been found. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30. thank you. simon says i feel very sorry for the way ben gleeson was treated by his scout group. my son is autistic and his experience couldn't be any more different. please don't give up. another tweeted, a rich family with heavily distracting child wants more money because they have to deal with reality.
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another, scouts discriminate against autism, we had the same for disabled grandchild with the beavers who could only go if we stayed with him. and another says, are these two pa rents and another says, are these two parents going to volunteer at a scout group rather than complain and criticise those who do? and do they think such an amount of £42,000 after suing is justifiable? do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. here's some sport now withjess. good morning. lots happening in cricket at the moment but we will start with england on their captain gebrhiwet has questioned his team's consistency overseas, after slumping toa consistency overseas, after slumping to a defeat in the first test match against new zealand. it was all is going to be difficult for england after being bowled out forjust 58 in theirfirst innings after being bowled out forjust 58 in their first innings and on the final day new zealand needed just seven wickets, with england needing to bat all day to force a draw. ben stokes was patient, hitting 66 but he went just stokes was patient, hitting 66 but he wentjust before the dinner break. and when chris woakes followed for 52, those hopes of
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seeing out the final session really did fade. james anderson was the last man to go, as new zealand won by an innings and 49 runs. 0ne last man to go, as new zealand won by an innings and 49 runs. one of the biggest scandals involving cricket continues to gather pace. australia's steve smith and cameron ba ncroft australia's steve smith and cameron bancroft have been heavily criticised for their premeditated tampering of the ball in their series against south africa. this morning, many of the sports pages have raised questions to about stray‘s conduct. quotes from stuart broad, who has questioned smith's claim that the tampering was a one—off. he said if you look at the recent ashes series we've just played, they reverse swung the ball in almost all of those matches, sometimes in the conditions where you wouldn't expect the ball to reverse. and indeed, cricket analyst simon hughes said he would be surprised if this was the first time it had happened. well, there were certainly rumours they had done it before. all teams, asi they had done it before. all teams, as i say, try it. most of them are
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only using legal means but one or two attempted to try illegal means to stop generally, i think there is so much at stake with a series like australia against south africa, they wa nted australia against south africa, they wanted to win it of course, to reaffirm their status as one of the best teams in the world. what i think it proves, in a way, is international cricketers do live in a sort of parallel universe. they don't believe they are going to get caught and they don't believe they have done anything terribly wrong. let's give you some good news, johanna konta in dominant form as she continues her defence of her miami miami open title. she takes on venus williams later for a place in the quarterfinals. she powered past belgian molise mertens in straight sets to reach the last 16 and will face williams at around the last 16 and will face williams ataround 10pm, the last 16 and will face williams at around 10pm, a challenge is relishing. whenever you are coming up against someone whenever you are coming up against someone who is such a great champion, it's not looking forward to the opportunity of playing her again. —— it's more looking forward.
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and being humble in the sense that you are playing such a great player and just focusing on your site. i will go out there and try to execute what i do best, and really try to display the best level i can. what i do best, and really try to display the best leveli can. really good to see her back to winning ways. that is all be sport for now. thank you. it's called the benefit no—one wants to recieve — the bereavement support payment is given to a married parent when their partner dies, to help provide financial support for the child. that payment used to last for up to 20 years, but last april it was reduced to 18 months. now this programme can reveal figures which show 3,500 people with children have qualified for the new benefit, and some of those will lose as much as £100,000 over their child's life compared to the previous system. we bought you our reporter anna collinson's full film earlier, here's a short extract. three people live in this house, but everywhere you look there are the reminders of a fourth.
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husband and dad irfon williams. irfon was a person who was full of fun, a la rger—than—life character, i'd say, and was a friend to everybody. irfon was diagnosed with advanced bowel cancer in 2014. he and becky thought that if he died, she would receive a bereavement benefit until their two sons left full—time education. they were wrong. knowing that he was terminally ill and that one day, you know, he wasn't going to recover, and when that day came that was still... although you know, you never prepare yourself for it. irfon died last may. he was 46. i guess you feel it's happening to somebody else, it's never happening to you. just seeing the children was really difficult. it used to be that if you were a parent and your husband or wife died,
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the government would give you £2000 and a monthly benefit, which would help with things like child care and could last for up to 20 years. but, after april 6th 2017, everything changed. now, a parent whose husband or wife dies will receive a slightly bigger one—off payment but, crucially, the monthly benefit will last for 18 months, instead of up to 20 years. a freedom of information request by the victoria derbyshire programme has found 3500 people with children have qualified for the new bereavement support payment after the death of their husband, wife, or civil partner. in some cases, families are missing out on up to £100,000 over time, compared to the previous system. the life matters bereavement task force says it's making a distressing situation even worse. a statement from the department for work and pensions said... i'm a nurse.
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i want to work, it's important for me to do that. what the benefit does do is support me to work less hours so i can get that balance as a single parent now to be around for the children. i'd rather my husband than £350 a month. but i am in this situation, and so i have to be mum and dad to my boys, i have to make sure they're emotionally secure and safe, and that small amount of money goes a long way to help me to provide that for my children. and our reporter anna collinson is here now. what were the government's reasons for changing the way money was paid to bereaved families?
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the it is tax—free and easier to claim. but campaigners, charities and politicians we have spoken to says this new benefit is actually making an extremely distressing situation even worse. and that some families finances are so stretched that when
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the benefit ends after the 18 month window, they will have to work multiplejobs to get window, they will have to work multiple jobs to get by, at a time when they should be looking after their children, who are of course grieving. there is no one here from the government today nor any of the mps who voted for this system. no. a month ago we asked every mp who voted in favour of this policy to come on the programme. how many? more than 250. one of the year agreed to be interviewed by me on the phone any you can see his comments on the bbc website. the rest said they were not available. many said it wasn't the place to comment. 0ne mp said, didn't really feel this matter is his area of interest or expertise, even though he voted for it. several suggested i should speak to the department for work and pensions. the problem was, i had work and pensions. the problem was, ihada work and pensions. the problem was, i had a ready contacted them six weeks ago. i offered them six dates i could fill with them, as well as giving them the opportunity to come on this programme and they said they weren't available. 0k. on this programme and they said they weren't available. ok. we will continue to bid for an interview
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with the department for work and pensions on this issue each day. thank you. let's talk to 28 year old jessica haslem—bantoft — she has been widowed twice in the past five years and because of that has received the old and new bereavement benefit. she has worked out she's now going to miss out on nearly £80,000 in the next 15 years. also with us is former minister of state for pensions and conservative peer — baroness ros altmann. and — ben brooks—dutton — chair of the life matters bereavement task force — his wife was killed in 2012 so he recieved the old widowed payments allowance. thank you for coming on the programme. jessica, what is the difference between the old payment and this new one? i used to be entitled to almost £500 a month, guaranteed until my youngest, barnaby, turned 18 or if he
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continued in education a longer time. now under the new system, not only is it over £100 less per month, it is only guaranteed for 18 months. i know having been widowed for over three and a half years, it doesn't get easier after 18 months. so not only do we have to try and adjust to two bereavements, we've also got to try and get our lives back together within a much shorter time frame. my children don't have financial security for their future. what do you think about that?” security for their future. what do you think about that? i think it is awful. it's not a situation like the pa rents a re awful. it's not a situation like the parents are separated, where one pa rent parents are separated, where one parent can support the other. it's 24 hours a day, seven days a week. to be told you are worth 18 months worth of support and then you have to get back to a life that is com pletely to get back to a life that is completely different to the one you had planned is very hard to adjust to. can't you go to work, can't you
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work when the 18 months financial payments stops? i have three boys. they are seven, five and three. i have two different school runs to do, i have playgroup drop—offs. my eldest has bad separation anxiety. he brings up during the school day just to hear my voice, to check i am 0k. just to hear my voice, to check i am ok. so with two southern bereavements in the last four years, he is emotionally needs a lot more than other children. he lost his dad and several years later his stepdad? that's right. so he is very emotionally, i won't say i'm stable, but needs a lot more support, very fragile. your second marriage was actually to your partner as he was dying from terminal cancer. it was his dying wish to marry you, which ifi his dying wish to marry you, which if i have understood correctly, lent you forfeited the old payment? if i have understood correctly, lent you forfeited the old payment7m did. did you know that at the time,
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would it have made any difference if you had known? if your partner had known? i knew about the changes, but we found out on the morning of the 6th of january that he had a couple of days to live. he was rapidly deteriorating. if we were going to do it, we were going to do it there and then. it's difficult to think, oh, well financially i'd be worse off, not that in that situation i'd have been necessarily. i don't know ifido have been necessarily. i don't know if i do have done it any differently. but is not when you —— what you consider when the person you love has a few days to live, you don't think, how am i going to get my financial security back afterwards question that you think about the bear and now and that was marrying him. a number of our viewers are saying this is why you get life insurance, what you have life insurance for, what do you say to them? with tom, my second husband, he had cancer three times over 15 years. he wasn't insurable. the first and he got it he was 17.
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as an adult he wasn't insurable. so we wouldn't have been able to get that anyway. the first time i was widowed, i was 25 injason lewis 24, he was electrocuted at work. you don't think it's going to happen. at 24 you don't know about life insurance policies. as anna said, a month ago we voted every mp who voted in favour, 252 conservatives on one labour mp. we asked them if they would do a live or pre—recorded interview. 0ne they would do a live or pre—recorded interview. one would go on the record, but not actually do an interview and 251 would not do an interview and 251 would not do an interview at all. what do you think about that? i met with my own local mpafew about that? i met with my own local mp a few weeks ago when she had no idea about the cuts are changes even though she voted in favour of them. what? she seemed genuinely horrified it ever come into play for stops she said herself, in 18 months is not easier. i feel like ignorance said herself, in 18 months is not easier. ifeel like ignorance is bliss for them. if they ignore it,
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it will go away. welcome back to the programme, ben. we spoke about this year ago when these reforms were coming in. what do you think about the fact none of the mps who voted for scrapping the old system and bringing in the new cheaper system would come onto the to defend it? not particularly surprised because the task force has been in touch with a lot of the mps as well. we had an event at the house of commons to launch the report we wrote with different recommendations, and there was no tory presence there. i think the thing is, it's difficult to find holes on the line of defence. i think it is very, very difficult to come on and defended, which is why nobody is doing. there is support from liberal democrats and labour mps and even from tory peers but there has been absolutely no support or engagement for many conservative mps on any of the issues they voted for. any mail from terry in sheffield says he is really angry about our report this morning.
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because a parent could receive a payment of around £350 per month for around 20 years on the grounds they have been bereaved. it is an absolute scandal. no wonder our welfare budget was so ridiculously high. what do you say?” welfare budget was so ridiculously high. what do you say? i think what needs to be taken into account is the payments were based on national insurance contributions that the dead person has left behind. they aren't ever going to benefit from them. we know what those national insurance benefits of, the nhs. so if you see them as a pension in themselves, it was people getting that money back. what is happening now is someone could have worked for 20-40 now is someone could have worked for 20—40 years and yet they only get payments of £350 for 18 months. also, was built, the tory party said this was not a cost—saving exercise but it will save them £100 million. sol but it will save them £100 million. so i don't really see that being an issue, because it isjust the money coming back in taxes from the family of the person who has died. what is it like being a widowed parent?m
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is very hard. i am nearly six years on now. the other thing to take into account about the number of years of payment is your child will change all the time. my little boy was two when it happened, he is nearly seven and his neat change so much that my working life has to flex with that. the payments are just about options. maybe it is specialist parisian counselling or extra childcare, so you can work. i work away a lot so i need a lot of extra support and it helps cover that. also, the average payment is only for about most people do need someone else. they move in and you lose the payment then under the previous system, or you get remarried and lose the payment. 20 years is a very extreme example and happen very rarely. are you saying 18 months is definitely not enough, can we make it five years or seven years? what are you saying specifically?m it five years or seven years? what are you saying specifically? it is very ha rd are you saying specifically? it is very hard to be specific. i think you could lose a parent when a child hasjust been
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you could lose a parent when a child has just been born. you could lose a parent when a child hasjust been born. you might have an 18—year—old as well so it is hard to flex it. i do think we need a consultation on this. this is what the task force is calling for. if you go on the website, there is a whole list of recommendations on that and you can see all the things but one thing we need to look at is a proper consultation about how to best support the families that are suffering in this way. the other point to make, with the had stop at 18 months, you get to the one—year anniversary and you know your knee had six months by. imagine how stressful that is, to know that... people talk about getting back to normal and back to work. there is a normal and back to work. there is a normal because the normal before was two parents working, probably, two incomes coming in and you won't have that. you might have to take another job, people have to downsize and move house or whatever it might be. this notion of getting back to normal orjust getting back to work on the government helping you do thatis on the government helping you do that is ludicrous. let me bring in baroness rosol men. a year ago you expressed your concerns on this
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programme, before these changes came m, programme, before these changes came in, and promised to do all you could to try and ameliorate the effects of the changes that nothing has happened. a whole cross-party group of us wrote to the then minister, secretary of state damian green, trying to see if we could persuade the government to revisit some elements of this bereavement benefit change, which clearly, to me anyway, and most people, doesn't seem to be as well—designed as it should be. the idea of modernising the benefit, i understand that. but what seems to have happened is that the government has redistributed money that previously went to families with children who were bereaved, to now include families, widowed partners without children. so the families without children. so the families with children have lost out, and i was trying to suggest, and i still
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think it is something we need to look at, once the 18 months is finished, a separate benefit for bereave children should perhaps kicked in, because i don't think anyone would, hand on heart, believe that within 18 months, bereaved children have got back to normal, forgotten about the fact they've lost a parent and can just forgotten about the fact they've lost a parent and canjust happily get on with their lives. clearly it takes a lot longer for some children. some children don't even start the grieving process until after 18 months. they are perhaps in after 18 months. they are perhaps in a bit of shock at the beginning and thenit a bit of shock at the beginning and then it comes out later, and the widowed parent needs to be there, to help look after the child. after all, this is part of our welfare state. what is the welfare state for, if not to help in circumstances like this? no fault of anybody's,
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these awful things can happen in life, but surely be state should be there to help. did you ever get a reply from mr damian green?” there to help. did you ever get a reply from mr damian green? i didn't get any satisfactory reply, and then, of course, this secretary of state and ministers responsible have changed two or three times in the past year. do you know if the new secretary of state esther mcvey might be opening to listening to what you are suggesting?” might be opening to listening to what you are suggesting? i would like to see if we can persuade esther to look at this again. i am sure she would care about it. i certainly care about it. i know a numberof certainly care about it. i know a number of tory colleagues feel that there is an issue which and we need to do some adjustment here. and maybe focusing on new benefit and children who clearly need help when they have lost a parent, in almost all cases, might be a way forward.
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but the current situation, where the benefit was changed a year ago, means that nobody has lost out yet. we have another six months to try and work on a solution that doesn't cause the losses to occur. so far people are getting the benefit anyway, and it doesn't change and doesn't stop for another six months or so. doesn't stop for another six months or so. ben, and number of people are saying, not as crudely as i'm about to put it, but broadly saying unmarried parents don't get this so why should married parents? we're completely agree. that is what part of the consultation is about. we wa nt of the consultation is about. we want to make this about the children. currently, cohabiting parents don't get any benefit at all, under what has been billed as a modernised system. cohabiting parents up the 's fastest growing family type in the uk and even though the government claims to have modernised the system, it is completely leaving them out. one in six children, if bereaved today,
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would lose out through no fault of their own. they have not chosen whether their parents get married or not. this is really key and important issue for us, that the children are looked after, rather than being rewarded for whether or not you are married. jessica, how do you rationalise the widowed twice in five years, by the age of 28, with three boys under the age of seven? you can't. there is no rationalising any of it. every day is a struggle. we just any of it. every day is a struggle. wejust get by any of it. every day is a struggle. we just get by as best we can, and we go to events with other grieved families. we are a member of the widowed and young. we're friends we feel we can belong with, because already in a society where widowed pa rents, already in a society where widowed parents, people don't discuss death, do they? it is a taboo thing that,
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so to speak to people openly and frankly about it does help a lot. but there is no way of getting your head around it. it is going to take a long time before we ever feel com plete a long time before we ever feel complete again, i think. a long time before we ever feel complete again, ithink. let a long time before we ever feel complete again, i think. let me read some more messages, if i may. this e—mail... some more messages, if i may. this e—mail. .. i some more messages, if i may. this e—mail... i was very moved by the stories of the bereaved families, however i do feel your report today was biased in favour of middle—class families. you do not mention if either of the families in your film mention if either of the families in yourfilm had their own mention if either of the families in your film had their own life insurance, were they homeowners? if so they're out the links would be less tha n so they're out the links would be less than a family that rent. another says, another makes me ashamed of this government. they are ashamed of this government. they are a disgrace. they are forgetting what people have paid into the pot. every government department is starved of funds and yet the government claims they are putting more resources into every department. i thought we were the fifth largest economy in the world, i don't believe it. i think we are the six now, apparently. another, what about single parents?
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the newly single parent is demonised and the benefit capped. i think this reform is right, it should be the same for all. and one more, i am synthetic but people should provide their own insurance if they want to support theirfamily long term. insurance if they want to support their family long term. if anything u ntowa rd their family long term. if anything untoward happens. iagree their family long term. if anything untoward happens. i agree totally with these changes. again, it is the something for nothing culture, which i'm sure you would pushback on in terms of the national insurance argument. we can talk to kenny in glasgow. how are you? hello. tell us your own experience. 2016 april i got six months to live. i got pancreatic cancer stage four. i had an. 0peration in august 2016, i married my long—term partner. we have been together 18 years. this
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bereavement benefit, it is shocking. people with kids, it's so wrong. what would you say to the government, any member of the government, any member of the government who might be watching right now? they are obviously living ona right now? they are obviously living on a different planet. they think everybody has insurance, they think everybody has insurance, they think everybody has insurance, they think everybody has money. i've seen it earlier in your programme, somebody‘s partner... the house... it is so wrong, having to give up your own house. living in her deceased husband's parents home, with the in—laws. deceased husband's parents home, with the in-laws. shocking. having to do that. notjust going through losing a husband, but having to the kids, it is so wrong. and you are
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living with stage four cancer, i think you said? yes, i have pancreatic cancer. pancreatic. they gave me six months to live. 0bviously next week it runs into two yea rs, 0bviously next week it runs into two years, so every day is a bonus. but it is so, so wrong. and in terms of the added financial worries for your partner when you are gone, how does that affect you? i managed to scrape together money for a funeral, anyway. 0bviously i'm not working. what are we getting question on £200 a fortnight. we get employment support allowance, £110 a week. i have worked all my life. kenny, thank you so much for contacting us, we appreciate your time, thank you. thank you very much. jessica, thank you for coming on the programme. and also ben and ros, we will see what
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happens, thank you. time for the latest news — here'sjoanna. jewish leaders have accused jeremy corbyn of repeatedly siding with people with anti—semitic views. the accusation is made in an open letter published by the board of deputies of britishjews and thejewish leadership council, and follows the controversy over the labour's leader facebook comment on a mural widely regarded to be anti—semitic. it comes after an apology from jeremy corbyn for what he called "pockets of anti—semitism" in his party. at least 56 people have died and many are still missing after a fire broke out at a shopping centre in siberia. the blaze started on an upper floor of the shopping complex while many of the victims were in cinema halls. russian officials say many children are feared to be among the victims. the american porn star stormy daniels, who claims to have had an affair with donald trump, says she received threats to keep quiet about the alleged relationship. she said the affair took place in california in 2006, a year after mr trump and his wife melania got married. she gave her first televised interview on american broadcaster cbs.
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a guy walked up on me and said to me, "leave trump alone, forget the story". then he leaned around and looked at my daughter and said, "a beautiful little girl, it'd be a shame if something happened to her mum". the brexit activist who has accused the vote leave campaign of exceeding legal spending limits said his claims will be backed up by evidence presented to mps. shahmir sanni alleged that the official brexit campaign used a different group, beleave, to overspend. both groups deny any wrongdoing. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. thank you. jess is back with the sport. thank you, cricket fans. england have lost the first test to new zealand by an innings and 49 runs, despite a patient 66 from all—rounder ben stokes. england still fell to their tenth defeat in 12 overseas test matches. now the
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crisis engulfing australian cricket continues as their captain steve smith is banned for one match and find his entire match fee for admitting to his part in tampering with a cricket ball in their series against south africa. britain's panna against south africa. britain's pa n na cotta against south africa. britain's panna cotta face venial venus williams. she's hoping to defend the title she won razie. she secured a place in last 16 by beating the belgian. ronnie 0'sullivan beat shaun murphy to claim a fifth title of the season. he is now three short of the season. he is now three short of steven hendry‘s record. that is all be sport for now. thank you. next: porn star stormy daniels says she was threatened to keep quiet about an alleged sexual encounter with donald trump in 2006. she told the cbs news programme, sixty minutes, that a man had approached her in a las vegas car park in 2011, and told her to leave him alone. stormy daniels says she's not a victim, that the relationship was consensual, but that it took place after his marriage to melania trump and a few months after his youngest son, baron, was born.
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she also said she had accepted money from mr trump's personal lawyer — in return for signing a non—disclosure agreement — shortly before the presidential election in 2016. let's listen to some of what she said — first, talking about that threat she says she received. from that moment on, he was a com pletely from that moment on, he was a completely different person. how so? he quit talking about himself, he asked me things, i asked he quit talking about himself, he asked me things, iasked him he quit talking about himself, he asked me things, i asked him things, it became more appropriate. more comfortable? he was like wow, you are special, you remind me of my daughter. he's like, you're smart and beautiful and a woman to be reckoned with and i like you. were you physically attracted to him? no. not at all? no. did you want to have sex with him? no, but i didn't say
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no, i'm not a victim. entirely consensual? yes. you could have got a lot of money to go public? yes. i believe without a shadow of doubt in my heart, some people believe i don't have of those, but whatever, i believe i was doing the right thing. i turned down a large payday multiple times because first, i didn't want to kiss and tell and be labelled all the things i am being labelled all the things i am being labelled now. i didn't want to take away from the legitimate and legal, i would like to point out, career that i have worked very hard to establish and most importantly, i did not wanted my family and my child exposed to all the things she is being exposed to right now, because everything i was afraid of coming out has come out anyway. and guess what? i don't have $1 million. i was guess what? i don't have $1 million. iwas ina guess what? i don't have $1 million. i was in a parking lot, going to a fitness class with my infant daughter. getting all the stuff out,
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and a guy walked up on me. he said to me... "leave trump alone, forget the story. " he said, looking at my daughter, she is beautiful, it would bea daughter, she is beautiful, it would be a shame if anything happened. you took it as a threat? absolutely. i thought i was going to drop my daughter i was shaking so much. did you see the person again? no, but i would know it right away. you could threaten as a person? 10096, even now, if you walked in this talk right now. did you go to the police? no. did you go to the police? no, i was scared. the president has previously denied any sexual relationship with the actress — but has yet to comment on this interview. let's now head to the us and speak to two republicans who have very different views on president trump. steve gruber is a talk radio host based in michigan. and in washington, dc, we have — meghan milloy —
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who is the co—founder of republican women for progress. as a talk show host speaking to lots of callers in the michigan area, how much do people care about these claims that mr trump has had several affairs? they don't seem to care a terrific amount. they get some press coverage. the biggest concern is he may or may not have had an affair with a pawn star, but did she get paid by michael coen, trump's attorney, was appropriate? that is more concerning to most people. when it comes to issues of the day, people are more concerned about north korea or the economy or building border wall. it will get some attention today and be talked about around the water cooler today, but do people really care? it doesn't seem so. let's be honest, the billy bush tapers out there, people didn't think they were electing a boy scout when donald trump is elected. they knew these stories were out there and elected him anyway, we will see where it goes from that. does this damage donald trump on anyway?”
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goes from that. does this damage donald trump on anyway? i think it does. you look at his numbers in 2016, he has his core base of 35% that will always be there. he can do what he wants people will still support him. what he need to worry about is their 15% of voters who are suburban republican women voters and they held their noses going into 2016 because they weren't going to vote for hillary clinton but now they think they may have made a mistake. that is the group that can hurt him in the next election. do they care about his personal life, if they see him doing a good job in the white house? i think so. if nothing else, all these stories and lies that have come out are indicative of is lying personality and immoral aptitude. it indicative of is lying personality and immoralaptitude. it distracts from his administration's ability to do the job and geopolitical issues, like north korea, and the trade issues going on. i think it brings up issues going on. i think it brings upa numberof issues going on. i think it brings up a number of concerns. do people
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have sympathy for his wife? up a number of concerns. do people have sympathy for his wife ?” up a number of concerns. do people have sympathy for his wife? i think people have empathy for her, certainly. but also going back to that point, people are not waking up thinking, i wish hillary was president. that isn't happening. donald trump has the potential with the leader of north korea coming up in may. this is tawdry, tabloid. is it true? i don't think people care that much. you look at the numbers for the latest polling, it is tightening as we head to the midterms. the democrats historically speaking should win in the midterms but republicans are tightening that race down to bit digits to three or four points. does this have a drag on donald trump? not really. people knew, they saw the billy bush taper knew, they saw the billy bush taper knew what they were getting. the package was baked into the cake when they elected donald trump, they didn't think he was a schoolboy or boy scout. do they look at him and say, gosh, that's terrible? yes,
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they do. but they don't wish that hillary was president. if it is proven storm daniels got paid by trump's lawyers, what does that mean? you can'tjust pay someone to drop the case. i think it shows he is culpable. he has been out there telling the world this didn't happen. if there is payment to her to silence her i think that indicate obviously he has been lying about this the entire time. who knows what else he might be lying about. do you have simply for his wife?” else he might be lying about. do you have simply for his wife? i do. the timing is horrible. right after barron was born. if lying to the american people, i can't imagine what he was telling his wife when he we nt what he was telling his wife when he went home. and if stormy daniels did receive this money from donald trump's lawyer, what would you say is the significance of that? again, i would say it is problematic potentially. it is not a straight up
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problem at this point. it will be looked into. stormy daniels herself said she was offered a big payday time and time again and she took that $130,000, she signed the contract, she cashed the check. now looks like she's looking for a bigger payday. she knows the man is president and she can get bigger offers, get a book deal. it looks like the bigger payoff she wanted is coming now. that is what it looks right. it looks like a money didn't like the deal they took because they took it to earlier now they want more money. that is how it looks to a lot of folks over here. what would you say to that? i think she is speaking out, like so many other women have right now. we have the me too movement. a number of women are coming forward and speaking out against donald trump. i don't necessarily think she is being selfish or seeking a bigger payday. i think we are in a moment right now where women are being empowered to speak out against sexual abusers and
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sexual predators like the president. she is cashing in, he was not a sexual abuser, she is cashing in on him being president. she said repeatedly in the interview with anderson cooper she was not a victim, it was not forced, it was a one night stand. she put herself in a bad position. i don't know how many women which they are —— would do that. she knew what she was doing, laying a trap to make money later and now she is cashing in. and all the other women he had claims with abuse against?” all the other women he had claims with abuse against? i can't speak for all of them but in this particular case with anderson cooper, this is a woman who said she is not the victim, she got paid $130,000. she cashed the cheque, signed the contract and now she wa nts a signed the contract and now she wants a better deal because she got left short. i might add, her attorney, he is a democratic operative. interesting that he works for barack 0bama's former chief of staff, the current mayor of chicago. he is pushing this, a guy who wants
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to get the president in a deposition situation, wants to make this big news, big politics. there could be a conflict of interest of what his real motives are. i don't think he is working for stormy daniels. i think he is working for himself and his 15 minutes of fame, to corner the president and make a big name for himself. thank you both. thank you for talking to a british audience. let me bring you this news, a 53—year—old has pleaded guilty in the last couple of months to causing the last couple of months to causing the death of two brothers, 86 old and a two —year—old, by dangerous driving ina and a two —year—old, by dangerous driving in a hit and and a two —year—old, by dangerous driving in a hitand run in coventry. robert brown has said he did it, pleaded guilty at work crown court on the last human rights to
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causing the death of the brothers, cory plaid me and casper at me by dangerous driving in an accident in coventry. thank you for your comments. the treatment support payments. that limits monthly payments. that limits monthly payments to 18 months as opposed to be old system which could be paid forup to 20 be old system which could be paid for up to 20 years. this e—mail from laura, i thought i was the responsibility of parents to ensure finances were in place should a tragedy occur and not be reliant on the state. by husband and i raised two children and since our first child was born in 99 we spent thousands of pounds on these years offer insurance policies should one offer insurance policies should one of us pass away to avoid a stress. i don't see why people constantly rely on the state and complain when the country is in a financial state. gill says on e—mail my husband died
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during an operation leaving me with two children, he couldn't get life insurance due to having two heart attacks, we had a mortgage and on his death the payments were down to me as was everything else. as a family we would have been destroyed had it not been for the original read and benefits. and rachel says this, i was widowed and 94 when my husband was killed at work. we had two young daughters, five and seven, i don't know how i would have coped with the debrief and allowance i received. which i remember when it ceased many years later as being just over £100 a week. reprint in a young family is devastating and 80 months is not long enough to consider that a family is ready to start again, it's like changing for everyone. when i heard of this change in legislation i cried for all those young families who have already been through trauma. it is obliged country should be proud to
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look after only both families. thank you so much for all of those. —— look after vulnerable families. you probably saw over the weekend that in the states hundreds and thousands of people took to the streets across the us during the weekend in support of gun control legislation. the march for our lives movement arose after 17 deaths in a school shooting in parkland, florida, last month. student leader and parkland survivor emma gonzalez gave a powerful speech at the main washington dc event. after listing the names of the victims, she stayed silent on stage for six minutes, 20 seconds — the time it took for them to be killed. six minutes and 20 seconds and my friend carmen would never complain to me about piano practice, erin would never or keira miss sunshine,
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alex would never walk into school with his brother, scott would never joke around with cameron at camp, helena would never hang out after school with max, june would never waved to her friend school with max, june would never waved to herfriend liam school with max, june would never waved to her friend liam at lunch, helene would never, carol would never, chris would never, look would neither peter would never, alice would never... since the time that i came out here it has been six minutes and 20 seconds. the shooter has ceased shooting and will soon abandon his rival, blending with the students as they escape and walk free for an hour before arrest. fight for your
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lives before it someone else's job. emma gonzalez. the nine—year—old granddaughter of civil rights activist martin luther king jr. assured her dream with those crowds in washington. my grandfather had a dream that his four little children would notjudged by the colour of theirskin would notjudged by the colour of their skin but by the concept of their skin but by the concept of their character. i have a dream that enoughis their character. i have a dream that enough is enough! and that this should be a gun free world, period. cheering will you please repeat these words after me. spread the word. spread the word. have you heard? have you heard? all across the nation. all across the nation. we are going to
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bea across the nation. we are going to be a great generation. we are going to bea be a great generation. we are going to be a great generation. the bbc has followed groups of people from parkland, florida and newtown, connecticut to the biggest march in washington dc. this is the beginning. as bittersweet as it was to have parking and join bittersweet as it was to have parking andjoin our bittersweet as it was to have parking and join our group i think we need these teenagers to help us get the message across. we are going to make this the voting issue. think of the city you send your child to to learn, what would you do if it was your child? it wasn't a long flight. i am grabbed we are here. in time for the weekend? nervous. excited. it is
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pretty cool, as magical as everyone says. congress are going to meet with us or run from us, if they run from us they are against our children and we will eliminate them from this building. being here right now represents that our voices are being heard at a national platform. perhaps something can be done. everyone in this room is making posters for the march tomorrow in washington. we are designing our own posters with our sayings and messages we want to convey. whenever there is another school shooting the first few days are top, it takes us back to the day. everyone in town across the country,
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the world, was devastated. we are ready to go there and march and expect changes afterwards. we are excited to do it as a family, as a community. how cold will it be in dc? hello. had. don't let us three leaf without me, we are about five minutes away. we want to be the change that we want to see. we can sit around and wait for other people to do it. next, so many of you getting in touch about anti—semitism in the labour party after labour mp john mann told us he did not know if jeremy corbyn was himself anti—semitic. in your view is surely dojeremy corbyn anti—semitic. in your view is surely do jeremy corbyn anti—semitic? anti—semitic. in your view is surely do jeremy corbyn anti-semitic? what jeremy corbyn is failing to do...
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izzy anti—semitic? i don't know, i don't think so. you don't know, give don't think so. you don't know, give don't think so. you don't know, give don't think so? that's for him to explain his actions on that neural but what i do know is he has failed to ta ke but what i do know is he has failed to take action on removing anti—semites from the labour party and there are an increasing number of them that have joined, increasingly anti—semitic, i have defended germany to the jewish community, asking that very question, saying i don't think in his heart he is an anti—semite but where is the leadership in driving the anti—semites out of the labour party? let's talk to norman smith, what is the latest? we have still heard nothing from jeremy corbyn, we had a statement last night, he said he was sorry for any pain caused by people who have expressed anti—semitic views on the labour party, he acknowledged there were what he called pockets of anti—semitism and he pointed to his
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long track record of condemnation, any form of anti—semitism or racing but there is a mighty big art, this isn't just becoming a but there is a mighty big art, this isn'tjust becoming a crisis but the labour party, it's becoming a crisis forjeremy corbyn, what the british board of deputies and other groups are saying is that it isjeremy corbyn himself, because of his political views, who is giving cover to anti—semites within the party, in other words he is part of the problem and that's notjust because of his association with groups like his brother, it's notjust because they feel he has failed to tackle incidents of anti—semitism. it's because of what they call the far left world which others take as coverfor left world which others take as cover for berglund anti—semitic and anti israel comments. this morning he was given a chance to say something but he passes up that opportunity as he comes out of his
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