hello it's tuesday, it's 9 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. our top story today — a 17 year old woman has been shot dead on a street in tottenham in north london. it's thought to be the 47th murder in the city this year. also on the programme... "a very clear two fingered salute at mainstream britishjews" — reaction to labour leader jeremy corbyn‘s decision to attend an event by a fringejewish group who're critical of mainstream jewish organisations. jeremy is a lifelong anti—racist and i think it came as something of a shock to him to be described as being some kind of racist and of harbouring people with anti—semitic views in the party that he leads. and i think awareness has grown, as it has for all of us. we'll bring you reaction. plus, the mums who regret having children. ididn't i didn't really enjoy any of it, it just felt like an endless round of putting a bottle in their mouth for

it to come out the other end, and at what point was this going to be fun? if motherhood is something you've regretted, do get in touch and share your story this morning. you can, of course, talk to us anonymously. and the head of the national union of students says universities are more concerned about their reputations than confronting the racist abuse of students. i speak to students on a daily basis that tell me that they have been discriminated against pass so, colour or called the n—word. .. she tells us not a day goes by where she doesn't receive a call from a student reporting racist abuse. the full exclusive report before 10. (titles) hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until 11. throughout the morning, we'll bring you the latest breaking news and developing stories, and as always we're keen to hear from you on all the stories we're

talking about this morning. use the hashtag #victorialive and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. and a quick word to say that today is exactly three years since we launched this programme. in that time we've tried to bring you a variety of stories you wouldn't see elsewhere. so thank you very much for watching and, hopefully, enjoying the programme. our top story today — a 17 year old woman has been shot dead in north london, in what's thought to be the 47th murder in the capital this year. police were called to a road in tottenham shortly after half past nine last night to reports of a shooting. a 16—year—old boy is also critically ill in hospital after being shot in a separate incident in walthamstow on the same night. police do not know if they're connected at this stage. plenty ore on that story to come throughout the programme. julian worricker is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news.

the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, has been criticised for attending an event organised by a left—wing jewish group critical of mainstream jewish organisations. it comes hours after mr corbyn promised "watertight" investigations into claims of anti—semitism within his party. photographs on the guido fawkes website appear to show mr corbyn meeting members of the group, called jewdas, to mark seder, part of the passover festival. a labour spokesman said he was there in a personal capacity. our assistant political editor norman smith is in wesmtinster. where does this take this issue?- one level there is nothing controversial about mr corbyn attending a celebration as a guest ofa attending a celebration as a guest of ajewish attending a celebration as a guest of a jewish group on the borders of

his constituency at an event attended by many of his constituents. the problem is the reaction unexplained weight loss, abdominal pain and fatigue, to the so—called one stop shops, where they can undergo tests for different cancers. here's more from our health correspondent dominic hughes. it helped me focus more on what my symptoms were... whenjohn lost 14 kg of weight in just a few weeks, combined with nausea and fever, alarm bells started ringing. the fear was he had developed cancer. butjohn had no specific symptoms, so was referred to in new specialist unit at airedale hospital in west yorkshire. fast track team, take blood straightaway, mri scans, ct scans more or less straightaway. you get to know what is possibly

wrong with you instead of waiting weeks and weeks to some results to come back, and the worrying all that time. the airedale clinic is one of ten in england designed to speed up a cancer diagnosis, where patients with non—specific symptoms likejohn and be seen by one team who can give a fast decision, rather than waiting to different departments to carry out several tests before a diagnosis is made. the advantages are that patients can have all the tests they need in one place rather than having to go back and forth to different departments. the quicker we can get the diagnosis of cancer for a patient, the quicker we can start treatment, which means better outcomes. various doctors hadn't picked up on the fact that it might be a tropical disease... it turns out thatjohn‘s symptoms may not be cancer at all but a form of malaria. the aim is that every patient

likejohn is given the all clear, or a diagnosis within 28 days. dominic hughes, bbc news. the former health secretary andrew lansley has revealed he's being treated for bowel cancer. writing in the daily telegraph, lord lansley says his illness could have been caught sooner if a screening programme he proposed hadn't been frustrated by budget cuts and a lack of staff. a spokesman for the department of health said it was making significant investments in cancer treatment and thousands of lives were being saved with screening programmes. local councils in england will have a legal duty to offer more help to anyone at risk of homelessness, as part of a new law coming into force today. previously, authorities only had to provide housing if people were judged to have a priority need. the government is giving councils money to fund the new measures but charities say the lack of affordable homes is a bigger problem. a british ban on ivory sales is to be one of the toughest in the world. trading ivory of any age, with some limited exceptions,

will be banned in an effort to reduce elephant poaching. the move, which is still to be signed into law, comes after a consultation in which more than 60,000 people supported the introduction of a complete ban. the media giant 21st century fox has said it could legally separate sky news from the wider group, to allay the regulator's concerns about its independence, if rupert murdoch's company takes full control of sky. it also said another option was selling the channel to disney. a british satellite designed to clean up rubbish in the earth's orbit has been launched into space. the removedebris project was on board a spacex falcon 9 rocket which successfully took off from florida last night. the satellite, which features a large net to collect junk, will be delivered to the international space station before astronauts begin using it next month. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30. let me read you some messages about

motherhood, we have got an exclusive film coming up in the next few minutes where you will hear three months talking about their regrets of having children. andrea says... these three women are not alone but don't dare mention it to anyone, i did andi don't dare mention it to anyone, i did and i was made to feel like a monster. it is easier to pretend everything is rosy. society and its norms are like the shackles. this on e—mailfrom alison, norms are like the shackles. this on e—mail from alison, a norms are like the shackles. this on e—mailfrom alison, a really interesting topic... we have three lovely, very different now, grown—up sons, what i found hard was the

emotional side of three boys at different ages and stages and feeling totally overwhelmed by it all at times. on facebook gabrielle says... i feel all at times. on facebook gabrielle says... ifeel sad for all at times. on facebook gabrielle says... i feel sad for these all at times. on facebook gabrielle says... ifeel sad for these mums who haven't experienced the joy of being a mum but it is not for everyone. i feel even more being a mum but it is not for everyone. ifeel even more sad being a mum but it is not for everyone. i feel even more sad for their children who undoubtedly will have sensed them am's feeling is growing up and i'm sure this will have had an impact on their well—being. this one... i think you know beforehand if you are cut out for parenthood. it is not for everyone, not every woman is naturally maternal. it is something i have wanted since i was very young and having my three has been the best thing ever. some people, though, have children for the wrong reasons. partly because of your own pa rents reasons. partly because of your own parents or grandparents and that is not a good idea if the only reason for having children is that it is expected of you. thanks are being honest with us and if you're getting in touch with us, use the hashtag #victorialive. if you are texting you will be charged at the standard network rate. time for the sport and it has been a frustrating morning for the england cricketers? that's

right. frustrating morning, a fruitless winter. england did not win one test match for the whole of the winter, they lost the ashes 4—0 and they have just lost the series to new zealand i—0. they had a chance to win this test, they needed to ta ke chance to win this test, they needed to take ten wickets on the final day and they started fairly well, in fa ct, and they started fairly well, in fact, incredibly well, stuart broad taking two wickets in the first two balls of the day! firstjeet raval and then captain kane williamson got his first golden duck in his career. but new zealand hung on, thanks mainly to sodhi lasting 168 balls, but england also dropped five catches in the day. in the end time ran out. in fact the crucial moment of the new zealand series for england was getting bowled out for 58 on the first day of the first test in auckland and they essentially spent nine and a half days of trying to make amends for that. but it now means that england, so good at home in their own conditions, have gone 13 test

matches overseas without a win. this time tomorrow, we'll be gearing up for the opening ceremony of the commonwealth games in australia's gold coast, and news this morning of who's going to be carrying flags for the home nations scotla nd scotland have announced that a lead oil will be carrying their flag. and alistair brownlee will be the flag bearerfor england, alistair brownlee will be the flag bearer for england, carrying the english flag into the stadium for the commonwealth games opening ceremony on wednesday on the gold coast. , the defending champion in his event. he says it will be one of the highlights of his career. and wales have announced that swimmer jazz carlin will be carrying the welsh flag. she is competing at four events, including defending that title which we see her winning here, in the 800 metres freestyle. that is all to come tomorrow. northern

ireland announce their flag bearer later on this morning. (vic) it's perhaps one of the most difficult things for mothers to ever admit — the idea that they regret having their children, don't enjoy being a mum, aren't particularly maternal. the subject is barely ever discussed in public let alone on national tv. this morning three women tell us what it's like to deal with those feelings — they've all spoken to us on the condition of anonymity — in some cases it's a feeling they've never admitted to family and fiends let alone their children. but they agreed to speak to us to try and break down the myth that motherhood is for everyone, and stop the vilification of those ifi if i could turn the clock back i would not have had children. how is it to say that? it's difficult

because people naturally assumed that by saying that you are not a nice person, that you don't love your children. to regret having children is a dark secret some mothers carry buried away. children is a dark secret some mothers carry buried awaylj children is a dark secret some mothers carry buried away. i didn't realise i was in maternal and that was said, that's when i found out the first time i wasn't paternal. was said, that's when i found out the first time i wasn't paternallj didn't seem to have a capacity to be that lovely, frilly, kind, warm, cuddly sort of mother. it's a feeling so unpopular it's unspeakable. —— i wasn't at maternal. does this silence perpetuated to boot? there's not this little group club you can go to to talk about how you feel because nobody admits it. most women will admit that being a

mother is hard work they will likely tell you the rewards make it all worthwhile. but despite what we hear and see this isn't the case for every mum. we've been speaking to women who wish they hadn't had children, who feel they made a mistake because they simply don't enjoy being a mother. three of them have agreed to speak to us on camera, so long as we conceal their identity because they don't want their children to know how they feel. i did love my children. butl didn't enjoy my children. rachel has three children, her youngest is now 17. things became much harderfor her when she became a single mother. i thought having children was somehow going to make my life complete. a bit like you see in films. and on the telly, where it was going to be relatively easy. and

the truth is it was nothing like that. and i just the truth is it was nothing like that. and ijust felt like screaming. that actually, it's not all it's cracked up to be. that if you're really, all it's cracked up to be. that if you' re really, really all it's cracked up to be. that if you're really, really maternal, it's great, you have everything you wanted, but when you are not, all you've done is trapped yourself. all the things that you might have wa nted the things that you might have wanted to do in your existence are suddenly curtailed. there is an absolute loss of self. joy only has one child, a daughter, in her early 20s. everybody speaks of having this child handed to them and thinking, this wild, fabulous, love that courses through them. i did not get any of that and that's not to take anything away from her, it'sjust it wasn't there. itjust anything away from her, it'sjust it

wasn't there. it just looked anything away from her, it'sjust it wasn't there. itjust looked like a huge amount of responsibility to me. and that was on day one. that was minute one. i wasjust tired, never been so tired in my life. i went back to work after six months because i was desperate to get out. alison has two sons, she didn't want her first to be an only child, they are both now at university. her first to be an only child, they are both now at universitylj her first to be an only child, they are both now at university. i didn't realise i was in maternal and that was it, that's what i found out the first time, i was in maternal. it's not that i didn't want to spend time with him, but i didn't know what to do whenl with him, but i didn't know what to do when i spend time with him, i wasn't good at making up games or making up things to do and when i was at work, went back to work, i would take days off and leave him at the childminder so that i would have a day to myself. in those early years how was it

being a mum then? it was tough, a day—to—day grind of getting through. there was nothing else apart from the sheer level of frustration, exhaustion. i mean, all mums i suppose go through this it's just that i wasn't finding anything... truly something that i was thoroughly enjoying. it wasn't... it was bleak, just bleak. were you enjoying it at all? no, no. no. i just wanted to be at work, go back to work, wanted to continue with my career, the business i was building and this was just a great career, the business i was building and this wasjust a great big, added extra that was exhausting, on the side of that. what was it like to realise that you felt this way, that you felt differently to other mothers?

i wondered for a long while if they we re i wondered for a long while if they were actually kidding! laughter this was as wonderful as they would actually portray it, really, they would come out and be honest with me! what was it about being a mum that you weren't enjoying? all of that, i didn't enjoy any of that at the time, it felt like an endless round of putting a 0ettl or food the time, it felt like an endless round of putting a 0ettl orfood in their mouths for it to come out the other end and at what point was any of that going to be fun? there were times where i didn't feel mature enough to be responsible for somebody, this little person, but needed me for their existence. the manager for the last two decades

has been if everyone else is happy, lam happy, has been if everyone else is happy, i am happy, everyone else's needs came first, it was a case of putting myself last which is a bit line, sometimes. what was it like to realise you did not enjoy the path that you had chosen and you had to live with that? every time i felt resentment at that time when they we re young, resentment at that time when they were young, i felt guilty because it wasn't their fault, or you don't have to do is do your best and hope that's good enough. sol have to do is do your best and hope that's good enough. so i did feel ill tee and i feel guilty now saying it. -- ill tee and i feel guilty now saying it. —— so i did feel guilty. ill tee and i feel guilty now saying it. -- so i did feel guilty. what do you resent them for? i suppose trapping me in a way, a life that i did not enjoy. and clipping my

wings, i suppose. did not enjoy. and clipping my wings, isuppose. is did not enjoy. and clipping my wings, i suppose. is the phrase to be used. it's impossible to know how many women feel this way because so few will speak openly and furry little research has been done. but two yea rs research has been done. but two years ago a small german study found one in12 of years ago a small german study found one in 12 of the 1200 people he had spoken to regretted coming parents. there are more of us out there than we ever really speak up about stop its tough if... when a woman has been seen for aeons as the all nurturing creature, when she will turn at the end of the day and say, iam not turn at the end of the day and say, i am not doing the nurturing, i don't want to do that.|j i am not doing the nurturing, i don't want to do that. i never told anybody because people thought that you should be so lucky that you have got a child, that is normal and

healthy and what more could you possibly want out of life? looking back now, do you wish life been different? i guess with the benefit of hindsight, yes. and i feel guilty for thinking that. for thinking that you'd rather not have had them? thinking that you'd rather not have had them ? yet. thinking that you'd rather not have had them? yet. is that how you feel? yeah. and what's that like to say? awful. because i love my children dearly. but life shouldn't be about giving up yours, giving up your life, your freedom so they can have a life. do you resent them7 life, your freedom so they can have a life. do you resent them? i think idid. when

a life. do you resent them? i think i did. when they were young. and i found that quite hard to deal with. i think i've got... enough maturity now to realise they don't ask to be brought into the world, we make that decision. i should have just put more thought into it. if you'd have known what it was like to be a mother, would you have done? no, not at all, i wouldn't have it at all. i just saw the family with the house, garden, car, children trotting off to school, mother waving them goodbye, the fairy tale. do you regret having your children?” goodbye, the fairy tale. do you regret having your children? i knew you were going to ask that. do i regret having children? no. because my life is different to the one with hindsight i would have preferred but it's still a good life and they are

good kids. growing up did she doubt your love to water? all the time because it was in society's norm, i wasn't behaving so many of the other mums behaved. tough lesson for asexual, you know? this lovely, fluffy mummy that you are trying to gain, doesn't exist for you. do you feel guilty that you weren't the mum that she wanted ? feel guilty that you weren't the mum that she wanted? no, not at all. we get what we are given. i got this child, she got me! laughter do you love her? yes, yes. yes, i do but the bond is and... it's not... gooey. i actually felt as if there was something wrong with me, you feel like you've not been a good mum and that say killed you always carry. it never goes away. —— and

its a guilt you always carry. you wonder if they know, i felt as if other people could see that i wasn't enjoying motherhood. there should be a chance for people to speak and not be vilified for that. had i been able to talk about, with someone who understood, i may have found it easier, actually, to cope with. i think women don't like talking about it because they don't wa nt to talking about it because they don't want to be judged, talking about it because they don't want to bejudged, they talking about it because they don't want to be judged, they don't want to be seen as being selfish. do you think you were too selfish to have children? yes, i was far too selfish to have children, i'd be grudged the intrusion on my time. what would you say to women now who have to make

this monumental decision?” say to women now who have to make this monumental decision? i think you should put a lot more thought into how will your life will change and not just a into how will your life will change and notjust a day—to—day, week to week basis. but for the rest of your life. and i know it sounds awful but still live in a society where a dad can walk away but as a mother, you can't. i think what would be really great is that women could become deeply honest with themselves and if having kids and having a family is really important then go for it, you know, go for it with all your heart but if you have a sensation in you that says i'm really not getting this, then don't have any fear or shame about unable to stand up and say, i'm somebody that doesn't want to bea say, i'm somebody that doesn't want to be a mum, i don't want kids. really keen to hear from you.

if you've been affected by what you've seen in our film, then do let me know your own experience because we're going to talk about this in the next hour — the ways to get in touch us with are on the screen. you do not have to leave your name, if you would prefer not to, that is absolutely fine, i hope you know that was by now. on facebook, alison says i'm onto four children but had to stop two because i found it incredibly difficult. if i'd known how hard it would we i would not have had children at all and my two know that. then i looked back at photos of them when they were small, i see happy faces and they are now 19 and almost 21 and i love being a pa rent to 19 and almost 21 and i love being a parent to them. i had postnatal depression and i lost my mum while

they were small and i couldn't help how i felt. luckily my partner was and still is amazing and supportive. catherine on facebook says women are brave to come out and say this, they will get slated but they shouldn't. everyone is different and nobody knows how you will feel about being a parent until it happens, nobody should be ashamed into feeling awful for having thoughts different to other people's. vanessa on facebook says i never wanted children and these women didn't either but they let themselves be brainwashed by society. i could always see how hard it was going to be and i knew it wasn't for me. honest you desperately want a child you should not have one, why did they not give more thought to the biggest decision they will ever make? and joel on e—mail, i never wanted children, they will ever make? and joel on e—mail, i neverwanted children, i was told i couldn't happen and then by accident i fell pregnant, i now have the most wanted baby girl who is my life! thank you somewhat

verbose. we are going to talk more about this in the next hour, to get in touch with your own experiences. —— thank you so much for those. still to come. the uk is to introduce tougher restrictions on the sale of ivory products, but will it be enough to deter elephant poachers? and claims that universities aren't properly addressing racism on campus. we'll hear from some students who say they're facing discrimination on a daily basis. time for the latest news — here'sjulian. a 17—year—old girl has been shot deadin a 17—year—old girl has been shot dead in london in what is thought to be the 47th murder in the capital this year. police were called to reports of a shooting last night, a 16—year—old boy is also critically ill in hospital after being shot in a separate incident in walthamstow on the same night. police do not know if they are connected at this

stage. labour leaderjeremy corbyn has been criticised for attending an event organised by a left wing jewish group critical of mainstream jewish organisations. it comes hours after mr corbyn promised "watertight" investigations into claims of anti—semitism within his party. photographs on the guido fawkes website appear to show mr corbyn meeting members of the group, called jewdas, to mark seder, part of the passover festival. a labour spokesman said he was there in a personal capacity. universities put their reputations first, before confronting the racist abuse of students. that's the claim by the president of the national union of students, who told this programme she receives calls on a daily basis from students reporting racist incidents. the former universities minister david lammy says universities need to redouble their efforts to crack down on campus racism. 10 new assessment centres designed to speed up cancer diagnosis are being introduced in england. gps will be able refer patients who have vague symptoms including unexplained weight loss,

abdominal pain and fatigue, to the so—called one—stop shops, where they can undergo tests for different cancers. if the project is successful then more centres will be opened. the former health secretary for england andrew lansley has revealed he's being treated for bowel cancer. writing in the daily telegraph, lord lansley says his illness could have been caught sooner if a screening programme he proposed hadn't been frustrated by budget cuts and a lack of staff. a spokesman for the department of health said it was making significant investments in cancer treatment and thousands of lives were being saved with screening programmes. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. here's some sport now. england completed their cricketing winter without any test wins, they could not find an elusive victory in

the second match against new zealand, which finished today. new zealand, which finished today. new zealand blocked their way to a drop in christchurch and new zealand won the series 1—0. alistair brownlee has been selected to carry the england flag at the commonwealth games opening ceremony on the gold coast tomorrow. a double 0lympic champion and also won gold in glasgow four years ago. the welsh flag will be carried by jazz carlin is guy luzon who is also a multi—0lympic medallist and she also won gold in glasgow. and it is not being treated as an anti—doping violation but the needles found in the athletes village have brought about a warning for the indian boxing team doctor and it has been said that it is a violation of the no needles policy at the games. it's over a week now since we revealed that thousands of parents were losing

up to £100,000 in bereavement payments because of changes to the type of benefits widows receive. at the time we asked every single mp who'd voted for the change to to come on air and explain, even defend, the policy — that's over 280 of them — they all turned us down. we also asked the government to come on air and explain the policy. they also turned us down. we've tried them all again every day this week — and they've still turned us down. but we'll continue to ask. the government has confirmed it's to introduce a ban on sales of ivory in an effort to reduce elephant poaching. unlike other bans, it will affect ivory products items of all ages — notjust those produced after a certain date. campaigners say around 20,000 elephants are killed each year for their tusks. joining me now is tonyjuniper, executive director of campaigns at wwf. how significant is this? this is

very significant and very welcome and this is something we have been calling forfor some time and this is something we have been calling for for some time at wwf, so we're very pleased to see the british governance stepping up on this issue. we have a long way to 90, this issue. we have a long way to go, however, and we hope that the british government's example will inspire others to step forward. we already have rules in place in the united states and china but we are worried that the chinese ban in particular could start to displace the trade to other countries in the region, to vietnam and thailand and other countries. and so we're hopeful that this momentum created by britain can be spread a little bit further around the world, because this is something which is literally out of control. as you said a second ago on the clip, 20,000 elephants a year being killed to fuel this ugly, brutal and despicable trade, and we need to have much tighter controls in place to stop it. so, be honest, a ban on

selling ivory in britain, will it deter poachers of elephants in other countries? well, cascade of effects we cannot measure very easily but we do know that some of the ivory which is being smuggled out of africa at the moment is being blended into markets worldwide because it is being mixed up with antique ivory. so this band, effectively putting most antique ivory out of the market alongside any stuff which might be coming in illegally, should make a difference. but as i say it needs to be spread more widely across the world. the british government has an opportunity to more bomb made in 0ctober opportunity to more bomb made in october this year when there is another conference on the illegal wildlife trade, and we are hopeful that at that moment some diplomatic momentum might be created to encourage other countries to come forward with similar bans, but this is an emergency. we are about to lose the biggest land mammal on earth... we are about to? well, over the coming decades, if we carry on like this, the wake of decline is

terrifying. there's about 400,000 elephants left in africa, the weight of poaching has been unabated. you can work out the statistics as to when it will become extinct, but this is something which has so far resisted efforts from international regulation, and it now seems that the leadership needs to be taken to individual countries where the markets are still big for ivory. and why is there still demand for elephant ivory? well, it is really quite amazing to understand the consumer mindset which permits this. i think consumer mindset which permits this. ithink in consumer mindset which permits this. i think in some countries at least, people simply don't know what is at sta ke people simply don't know what is at stake here. and i do know that some chinese consumers, for example, i para ivory in the belief that this isa para ivory in the belief that this is a natural process of elephants' teeth falling out and they grow new teeth, somewhat shielded from the reality of these animals being murdered in order to hack out there. with machetes or changing soars to get at their ivory. and so this is

something i think many consumers are still a little bit confused about. of course some people buy ivory believing it to be antique stuff winning fact it is not. so, the chinese ban exempts relics but in this country there are not going to be any exemptions which is why the government is able to say this is one of the toughest bands in the world, and you say this is true? yes, we do and with very few exceptions, and not ones which we can see will be a risk to wild elephants. the chinese and has this exemptions the so—called relics, it is not clear what that is exactly but it does have a restriction on the ivory trade. this one, though, is going a step further but it is necessary , is going a step further but it is necessary, given what we know about the rate of decline of african elephants in particular. thank you very much. we can bring you some more comments from women who have regretted having children, to put it routinely. it

sounds brutal but that is because it is such an unspeakable taboo, i have never heard women talking about this. in the film this morning we had three mums talking about their regrets over having children. this e—mailfrom somebody regrets over having children. this e—mail from somebody who wants to remain anonymous. . . e—mail from somebody who wants to remain anonymous... i put your programme on almost by accident and you have just explain something that has troubled me all my life. i have never married or had children because there was always something holding be back. now i realise i was not alone, and i am thankful that i didn't follow the dictates of societies. jackie says... i bet there are far more women who feel this way about motherhood than is realised. even today it is considered taboo for a woman to feel like this, so theyjust hide it and confer accepting the responsibility of the child's up winning. i believe my mother may have been one of these women who lived in an era which was very different to now, but longed to have had a career with her artistic and musical talent, however, have had a career with her artistic and musicaltalent, however, it led her to ensure that i had every

opportunity to have the career that i wanted. universities are more concerned about their reputations than confronting the racist abuse of students. that's according to the president of the national union of students, who tells this programme she receives calls from students reporting racist incidents on a daily basis. the former universities minister david lammy tells us universities need to redouble their efforts to crack down on racism on campus. 0ur reporter ashleyjohn—baptiste has been investigating — his report contains students using racist and offensive language, and it lasts around 15 minutes. a group of students beat me up because of the colour of my skin. british universities are supposed to be forwardthinking places of intellectual debate. it wasjust malicious, it wasjust racism, basically. but some students are abusing others because of their race. we were like, come on, this is like the 21st—century and this is actually happening. according to the national

union of students, racism on campus is rife. you know, i speak to students on a daily basis that tell me that they have been called the n—word. the politicians are calling on the universities to clean up their act. so we have seen a spike, it is a problem, and it needs to be cracked down on very aggressively. so, why are ethnic minority students still getting racially abused on campus? universities are places of learning where young people go to grow up, make friends and improve theirjob prospects. university campuses are a melting pot of ideas where people's opinions and beliefs are debated and challenged. but there are times when that goes too far. in the last couple of years, a darker side of university life has come to the fore — racism. at loughborough, students apologised

for planning a slave auction as a social event. at warwick, one student found the "n—word" and "monkey" written on her bananas. and at loughborough, students apologised for planning a slave auction as a social event. now we've uncovered new and shocking allegations of racism that students say they've experiencd on university cmapuses. hello, jordan. hiya. hey dude. good, nice to meet you. jordan is in his second year studying maths at the university of surrey. but after something that happened in february last year, he's pretty lucky he's still breathing. i was a victim of a racially aggravated assault, essentially, 15 students beat me up because of my skin, the colour of my skin. it was about 12—ish, 1am, i'm walking on campus,

in my university, and i was passed by a group of about 15 people. as i passed them, they called me the n—word and they started laughing as a group. i turned around and confronted them, and they beat me up, essentially. i passed out about halfway through. security guards chased down four members of the group and they were arrested, althouthordan didn't know much about that at the time. the next thing i knew, i was in an ambulance, being rushed to hospital. because i had received quite severe blows, muscular injuries, some ligament injuries as well to my head, to my neck, to my spine, i was interviewed by police to give my statement. and then i went home and i cried for a solid two hours. doctors told jordan he could have

died if the attack continued. my family were distraught. my mum called me crying, my dad called me crying. jordan couldn't walk for two weeks after the beating, but his physical injuries have now healed. the emotional impact took a little longer. i felt unsafe. scared to be alone, especially at night time. you can go to this lecture, you can walk that distance, it was a big struggle. did it at all impact how you saw white students? i'd say, definitely, if i saw a rowdy group of white students, maybe at night—time, or otherwise, and i was alone, i'd instantly feel a sense of fear. i was scared that it could happen again, at any point, if they were to say something to me. there wasn't enough evidence to press charges against those

arrested, the university of surrey spokesperson told us: jordyn's story is shocking but there are many other forms of racism students can face. race hate crime has been on the rise in the uk for the last couple of years, and lots of the abuse occurs on the internet. that being said, an online universities course spreadsheet probably isn't the first place you would look. you may find the language you are about to hear very offensive. but it was important for david to say the words involved. as you can see, it says, "not—or", multiple times. "hands up, don't shoot," "death to all neck—is" and ironically one of the topics is online hate.

david was in his first term at southampton uni when one of his tutors asked everyone on the course to put some of their academic interests on a spreadsheet. i was really shocked to see that kind of thing. like, come on, this is the 21st—century. and this is happening, this is actually happening, and i'd never experienced something like that before. how did you feel? just, attacked, you know, i was like one of maybe three or four black people in a class of 260 plus students, so, would this happen if i wasn't there? probably not. david says his tutor clearly condemned the behaviour at the next lecture, but thinks the university should have done more. the word that comes to mind is appeasement, so, more of a focus on trying to make the people who are angry about it less angry, and much less of a focus on perhaps

seeing what possibly could be done to find out who did it. the incident was passed to the police but again no further action was taken. it's still not clear who wrote what. a month after the incident, you move university, because you wanted to change course, how much did the incident influence your decision to move university? after the incident happened, there was this big question on my mind of, did i pick the wrong university, because why would something like that happen? it made me think a lot more about, do want to be here? in a statement, southampton uni told us, staff remove the offensive material within 15 minutes of being alerted, university launched an urgent internal investigation and informed the police. this incident was utterly unacceptable and the university condemns in the strongest possible terms the behaviour of those

who sought to cause offence and harm through their actions. there are no overall figures for the number of racist incidents that occur at university, but a report back in 2011, britain by the national union of students, found one in six black students had experienced racism at their institution. the real number could be a lot higher, according to the nus president. racism is one of the biggest issues that bme and black students face on campus. you know, i speak to students on a daily basis that tell me that they have been called the n—word or discriminated against because of their colour or not let into a club because of their race. they're not prioritising it and taking it seriously, universities are more concerned about their reputation than the well—being of their students. she says racism on campus is having an impact on how well black students do at university. when they're feeling unsafe,

when their mental well—being is poor because they don't feel comfortable in their environment, this is having a detrimental impact on the outcomes. i've come to meet one student who didn't officially report racist language when she was insulted by another student. she's in herfirst year at the university of warwick. she was on a night out when a girl she with called her the n—word three times. i was just shocked by it. you know, you don't really expect that. you don't expect it to be so abrupt and so explicit. it just took me back, the first time. and it was the second and third time, it was anger that followed. it was malicious. it wasjust racism, basically. she was angry and a big confrontation kicked off, both girls were pulled away, again, you may find the language you are about to hear very offensive. everyone was just looking at me as if, you know,

as if i was crazy, almost, for reacting in that way, no one spoke up, really. as the confrontation escalated, another black student came to see what was going on, and you got angry at him, because he didn't defend you, what happened there? he focused on almost like protecting her, as if he needed to. and, you know, ijust called him a coon. called him i wasjust like, why aren't you defending me7 just in case you are wondering what that means, the phrase nisha used is a derogatory racial term but can also be used to insult a black person who sucks up to white people. do you think your use of the work was somehow more acceptable than when the other student called you the n—word? of course, it all comes from the fact that the white people used it in order to oppress us. the emotion behind it, everything about it, and throughout history, as we have seen, that people have reclaimed the word, taken it back and we now use it as we wish.

the next day, nisha got a visit from her resident tutor, who she told about the incident, the tutor, a white woman, told nisha that her language was racially insensitive as well. the situation changed when you reacted back in aggression, do you accept that? it seems so very trivial that i was having this conversation with someone that came to me to see if i had a problem, and had now created a situation where i was now the problem as well. for a white person to use it against a black person, no matter what their intent, whether they are doing it in a friendly way, an abusive way, it will never be the same as a black person saying it against another black person. in a statement, the university told us: the argument touches

on a difficult issue for universities about racially offensive language and who can say what and when. sometimes you hear the n—word in popular music, sometimes, when white students say it, when a white student say says it to a black colleague on a university campus, they may be saying it in jest, they may be saying it because they think it is socially acceptable. would you class an example like that as racism? personally, i think that the n—word is offensive whenever it is used and i don't think it is appropriate for anybody to use that word. i don't think it is appropriate to use that word, i think that it gives people the go—ahead. we fought so hard and long to eradicate those type of terminologies that for me i don't think it can be reclaimed. and you can see how these issues are difficult for universities, should they dictate which words

a student is allowed or not allowed to say based on their race? it's clear from each of the three students we have spoken to that getting attacked or abused because of your race is isolating and deeply upsetting. it's an experience that makes itself felt for a long time. it's why here in westminster, a senior labour politician and former universities minister says institutions must do more to crack down on racism among students. i do think universities have to redouble their efforts to support students on campus and have to have a zero tolerance approach to anything that comes anywhere near racial hatred. and he says race hate on campus is on the rise because of wider issues in society. there are young people, arriving on university campuses, listening to some of the xenophobic and racist conversations that they may have heard in the community from which they are coming or even sadly in their own family homes, and replicating this behaviour in the freedom of university. so we have seen a spike, it is a problem, and it needs to be

cracked down on very aggressively. i think it is evident from the cases that we have spoken about and have been featured in your film that there is universities and institutions that are failing to act. we need to get those people around the table who have faced it, who have experienced it, and i think that the government needs to work with institutions and give them the money and the funding that is needed to support students that are going through this. so we asked the students we spoke to where they think the solutions lie. i think maybe they should at the beginning when you start the university have a compulsory lecture or something like that, even an e—mail would do, to show students what you can and cannot do while you are there. there can be some problems that people from a black or majority

ethnic background can experience in an academic setting. and as one of the reasons i ran for bme officer at imperial, because i realised, this is something i want to get involved in. if we had more people of colour in politics, then we can get into that power and then change the system completely. thank you for your messages. really keen to get your experience of racism in british universities in 2018 — if you go to uni or work there — get in touch. neil says the spreadsheets incident was so brazen. that has to be done away with. tom on twitter it said it sat listening to this, surely we are advanced enough as a society to get past this took only an attitude? 0ne viewer who wishes to remain anonymous, i am a mature university

student in london and i compelled to raise this issue, by university is apparent dying of which is to be applauded but as a white male i am made to feel uncomfortable inlet is. the disdain with which i am viewed is so apparent it happens both ways. and michelle and e—mail says my daughter who is white and british and has many black friends was racially abused by the people she toured a flat with at university, they caught, some bad language coming up, you can turn the volume down they called her a posh white girly, and then white pitch and other disgusting things. it isn't just black students this happens too. thanks for those messages. keep them coming in. latest news and sport on the way. but first, here's carol. tell me spring is going to arrive. let's get the latest weather update.

at some stage, victoria yes, finally today, some snow in the forecast. the snow falling at the moment across scotland, most of it in the hills as mild air comes in from the south, more snow to come tonight and tomorrow. not everywhere. see you later. what we have today, cool in the north with all the snow. also sunshine and showers in the south, going to be considerably milder. 0n the satellite picture you can see quite a bit of cloud across the uk, through the course of the day some of that will break across into, wales, northern ireland, we will start to see sunny spells coming through. all these fronts connected to an area of low pressure. that produces the unsettled weather that we have. the snow continues on the hills, as we go through today in

scotland, the snow level falling, all this rain and showers rotating around the area of low pressure, some of that will be heavy, some thundery. in between a fair bit of sunshine. highs of possibly 16 degrees, you can see it's still cold, looking at 5 degrees in aberdeen. heading through this evening and overnight, the wind strengthening across devon and, low pressure still in charge, a lot of dry conditions the further east you travel. we still have hill snow coming down to lower levels through the course of the night in scotland. the risk of ice, not as cold in the south, not as mild a start as what we have this morning. tomorrow, continuing with snow in scotland, all ina continuing with snow in scotland, all in a times to lower levels, heavier rain moving to southern scotland, northern ireland, england and wales, showers will be on and off through the day, they will be frequent than for the lagarde today.

the odd rumble of thunder as well. by the odd rumble of thunder as well. by the end of the different snow into the southern uplands. by the time we get to thursday, things change. you can see the yellow are mass moving across many parts of the british isles, stopping on saturday, we start to see higher temperatures coming in. for thursday, we start to see higher temperatures coming in. forthursday, i tem ptress, coming in. forthursday, i temptress, cold, ice, some frost around, a lot of dry weather, a fair bit of sunshine. as low—pressure comes from the west, throwing in water the sunshine in the west turning hazy, at last the temperatures rising in scotland. a quick look at friday, the low— pressure quick look at friday, the low—pressure coming in, introducing all this rain, the cloud holding, brighter skies will be the further east and south—east that you travel, by then be looking at temperatures up by then be looking at temperatures up to rant about 16 degrees. hello it's tuesday, it's ten o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. our top story today — a 17—year—old girl is shot dead in north london,

in what's thought to be the 47th murder in the capital this year. eye very horrified and shot to come out this morning and find out that one of my residents have to ceased. —— have deceased. we'll have the latest from the scene and speak to a former gang member who now works with teenagers in the capital. also this morning, the mothers who say they regret having children. if you're really maternal, then that's great, you've got everything you wanted. but if you're not all you've done is trapped yourself. really keen to hear from you — if it's something you regret, do get in touch and tell us your own expereince. you can, of course, talk to us anonymously. and concern over the way universities are tackling racism. the head of the national union

of students says some universities are more concerned about their reputations than properly confronting the issue. i speak to students on a daily basis that tell me that they have been called the n—word or they have been discrimination did against because of their colour or not let into a clu b of their colour or not let into a club because of their race. we'll hearfrom some of the students affected, and ask what can be done to address the problem. titles - good morning. here's julian worricker in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today's news. a 17—year—old girl has been shot dead in north london, in what's thought to be the 47th murder in the capital this year. police were called to a road in tottenham shortly after 9.30 last night to reports of a shooting. a 16—year—old boy is also critically ill in hospital after being shot in a separate incident in walthamstow on the same night. police do not know if they're connected at this stage. the labour leaderjeremy corbyn has been criticised for attending

an event organised by a left wing jewish group critical of mainstream jewish organisations. it comes hours after mr corbyn promised "watertight" investigations into claims of anti—semitism within his party. photographs on the guido fawkes website appear to show mr corbyn meeting members of the group, called jewdas, to mark seder, part of the passover festival. a labour spokesman said he was there in a personal capacity. universities put their reputations first, before confronting the racist abuse of students. that's the claim by president of the national union of students, who told this programme she receives calls on a daily basis from students reporting racist incidents. the former universities minister david lammy says universities need to redouble their efforts to crack down on campus racism. 10 new assessment centres designed to speed up cancer diagnosis are being introduced in england. gps will be able refer patients who have vague symptoms including unexplained weight loss, abdominal pain and fatigue, to the so—called one—stop shops,

where they can undergo tests for different cancers. if the project is successful, then more centres will be opened. the former health secretary for england andrew lansley has revealed he's being treated for bowel cancer. writing in the daily telegraph, lord lansley says his illness could have been caught sooner if a screening programme he proposed hadn't been frustrated by budget cuts and a lack of staff. a spokesman for the department of health said it was making significant investments in cancer treatment and thousands of lives were being saved with screening programmes. the existing manufacturer of british passports is appealing against the decision to use a franco—dutch supplier after the uk leaves the european union. de la rue lost the £490 million contract to gemalto, which is based in france, in march. the british company admitted its bid was not the cheapest but said it was "the highest quality and technically most secure"..

and technically most secure". the home office said the chosen firm met the needs of the passport service. a british ban on ivory sales is to be one of the toughest in the world. trading ivory of any age, with some limited exceptions, will be banned in an effort to reduce elephant poaching. the move, which is still to be signed into law, comes after a consultation in which more than 60,000 people supported the introduction of a complete ban. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag #victorialive. this message says... i have never met a mother who didn't regret having children, most of it is hard,

unrelenting slob and it never ends. mind you, i have triplets and eventually we get sucked into their aduu eventually we get sucked into their adult problems and we will help with raising their children. this is about the biological fact of being a woman, going out to work is what saves us woman, going out to work is what saves us and keeps us sane. wow! going out to work is what saves us and keeps us sane. my experience is that women do talk about a, particularly on social media, with lots of humour begin the truth is painful. i clearly love my children, but the responsibility and the mental workload are excruciatingly heavy. that is incredibly frank, thank you for that. and this one says... iam thank you for that. and this one says... i am glad the subject is being aired on your programme, i am 73. if i had my life over again, being aired on your programme, i am 73. if i had my life overagain, i would not have children. i never told my kids this, but i completely understand why my younger daughter felt she was not maternal enough to

have her own children. she is smarter than me, but sadly some people would say she is selfish. and this one says... i was an unexpected baby and! this one says... i was an unexpected baby and i sensed my mum didn't want me to. i always felt close to my nan who lived with us and cared for me. this one... my husband and i have chosen to be childfree. i am asked about this on an almost daily basis by other women. my standard response is, i would by other women. my standard response is, iwould rather by other women. my standard response is, i would rather regret not having children than regret having them. i can see in the eyes of some others that they agree with me but would not dare say anything out loud. thank you for those, thank you for your honesty most of all. if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. here's some sport now with hugh. england's cricketers have finish to their long winter tours and they don't even have one test victory to celebrate after losing the ashes 4—0 and they now lead new zealand with a

1-0 and they now lead new zealand with a 1—0 series defeat after a frustrating final day in christchurch. they needed all ten wickets on the final day for victory and they got two in the first two balls, courtesy of stuart broad. so they then have plenty of overs to 90, they then have plenty of overs to go, and england got down to three wickets required but in the fading light they were held up by some determined new zealand batting, particularly from ish sodhi, who scored a crucial unbeaten half—century, and the tourists also dropped five catches as new zealand held on to claim only their fourth series has a ranch over england. alistair brownlee has been named as the england flag bearerfor the commonwealth games at the opening ceremony tomorrow. he is also a two—time 0lympic ceremony tomorrow. he is also a two—time olympic champion. he will lead the 390 strong team out at the stadium on the gold coast. lead the 390 strong team out at the stadium on the gold coastm lead the 390 strong team out at the stadium on the gold coast. it is a great honour for stadium on the gold coast. it is a great honourfor me. i remember watching some of the games, the manchester games in 2002, sydney in

2000, and seeing the british and english teams coming out into the stadium and it being a massive thing to be the flag bearer. i never thought in a million years that a triathlete would do that, never mind me. so, to get the opportunity to do it is really special and something i am very proud of. wales have announced one of their defending commonwealth champions, swimmerjazz carlin, will carry the flag for wales. she will come compete in four events including the 800 metres freestyle, which she won in glasgow. meanwhile the indian boxing team doctor has been warned after syringes were found in the athletes village at the weekend. a hearing this morning has decided not to take any additional action against the doctor who said he administered vitamin be to an unwell fighter by injection, contravening the commonwealth games r is on the sea just that is the sport for now. acknowledging you regret having

children is perhaps one of the most difficult things for mothers ever to do. a taboo that many women wouldn't dream of acknowledging to their closest friends or family — let alone on national tv. but it does affect some mums — and the lack of a national conversation about it can leave those affected feeling isolated. this morning we've been hearing what it's like wishing you hadn't become a mother — this is rachel — its not her real name — she's spoken to us in the hope it will help other parents who feel the same. i thought having children was somehow going to make my life complete. and ijust and i just felt like screaming. that actually, it's not all it's cracked up to be. that if you're really, really maternal, it's great, you've got

everything you wanted, everything you wanted, but when you are not, all you've done is trapped yourself. rachel has three children, her youngest is now 17. things became much harderfor her when she became a single mother. what was it about being a mum that you weren't enjoying? all of it, i didn't enjoy any of it at the time, itjust felt like an endless round of putting a bottle or food their mouths for it to come out the other end and at what point was any of that going to be fun? there were times where i didn't feel mature enough to be responsible for somebody, this little person, but needed me for their existence. looking back now, do

you wish your life been different? i guess with the benefit of hindsight, yes. and i feel guilty for thinking that. for thinking that you'd rather not have had them? yeah. but is that how you feel? yeah. and what's that like to say? awful. because i love my children dearly. but life shouldn't be about giving up yours, giving up your life, your freedom so they can have a life. i actually felt as if there was something wrong with me, you feel like you've not been a good mum and it's a guilt

you always carry. it never goes away. and you wonder if they know. there's not this little group you can go to to talk about how you feel — because nobody admits it. there should be a chance for people to speak and not be vilified for that. had i been able to talk about it, with someone who understood, i may have found it easier, actually, to cope with. here with us this morning is alison, who we featured in our earlier film, it's not her real name. she has two sons who are both now at university — for obvious reasons we're not revealing her identity. sarah fischer is also hopefully going to be with us, who lives in germany. sarah has a young daughter, and has written a book about regretting becoming a mother,

called the happy mother lie. and 0rna donath is a sociologist in israel who has studied women who regret having children. thank you for talking to us. you are co mforta ble thank you for talking to us. you are comfortable in speaking about this, alison, but you don't want anybody to know that it is you, ways that? because i don't want to be vilified. i feel that it is a polarising argument, and i don't feel that i or my family argument, and i don't feel that i or myfamily can argument, and i don't feel that i or my family can justify the intrusion. and do you think you would be vilified if people knew who you were? not necessarily vilified, but certainly tom ince, which i don't wa nt certainly tom ince, which i don't want my family to have. i can deal with things but not for my family. —— certainly comments. you had been married for a few years, you had ummed and ahed i think with your husband about whether or not to have children and then you went for it and it was at that point that you said your life was turned upside down — why? said your life was turned upside down - why? i don't think you

realise how much an impact it has, my eldest son did not sleep through the night the six years. going to work with that kind of pressure, and you couldn't make snap decisions about doing things, everything had to be planned in advance. why is that such a bad thing? sometimes it took the spontaneity, the fun out of things, everything was like a military operation, making sure you have the nappies, the nappy bags, enough milk and all that kind of stuff. and it wasn'tjust two people that decide, it was a third or fourth person to decide what you we re fourth person to decide what you were doing, and two of those couldn't speak. but their impact was greater, even though they couldn't speak. have you considered whether it was possible that you were potentially depressed, if your first child didn't really sleep for the

first however many years, then that would have disrupted your sleeping patterns? i don't think i was depressed, no. iam one patterns? i don't think i was depressed, no. i am one of these people who just get on with things, so no, i wasn't depressed. why did you have another child ? so no, i wasn't depressed. why did you have another child? we didn't wa nt you have another child? we didn't want our older child to be an only child, we wanted him to have someone to play with, that was part of the hope. also timing—wise, it was because i was going through a lot of stress at work and i felt that perhaps a second child might change things somewhat. you mean it was a way of escaping work? to an extent, yes. were they the right decisions? the first one was. i wanted a family, that was my thought. at least my elder son would have a sibling,

someone to play with, to be with. when you acknowledge that itjust wasn't enjoyable, what does it make you feel like when you say that? drea dfully you feel like when you say that? dreadfully guilty, dreadfully guilty, it's not theirfault. i... we made the decision to have children, we have to live with the consequences, it would be very unfairon them, consequences, it would be very unfair on them, they've done nothing wrong. how much do you love them? two bits, tibbetts. too much, i love them to bits. do you think they know? they know i love them to bits. they do, because i've told them, it's a decision to make. it's a decision they have to make long and ha rd decision they have to make long and hard about when they get to that position. i said, hard about when they get to that position. isaid, don't hard about when they get to that position. i said, don't expect me to be the doting grandmother because it isn't going to happen. if you had your time isn't going to happen. if you had yourtime again isn't going to happen. if you had your time again you would make

different decisions, you wouldn't have children? no, iwouldn't. no. it wasn't for me. you know, i'm not someone who can sit and play games with them, i don't know what to do with them, i don't know what to do with them, i don't know what to do with them, perhaps i'm a bit too selfish. as well. but you've done it. you brought of two children. but i haven't finished, you never finish. no, that's true, but that's all right. yes, and i don't regret having children, i would make a different decision if i had my time again, there's a slight difference. and does your husband know you feel... yes, he feels the same. does he? i have friends as well who think, who feel the same, they don't regret having their children but again, but my husband is the same as me, he feels the same. let me bring in if! me, he feels the same. let me bring in if i may, alison, sarah fisher

whojoins us from in if i may, alison, sarah fisher who joins us from germany, in if i may, alison, sarah fisher whojoins us from germany, she has a young daughter and has written a book about regretting becoming a mother. and lorna is a sociologist in israel who studied women who regret having children. thank you for talking to us. sarah, why is your book called the happy mother lied? hello, when i found out about the survey i heard what i thought for two years already, my daughter was two years at this time and i realised it's a great tabuk, a really big taboo, on the quiet and you are not allowed to speak it out loud. and for me, in the beginning, it was a difficult time but i've finally realised there are so many mothers and even fathers that are feeling the same. but it's not

desired to speak about negative things of motherhood. sorry to interrupt, ford is it that you would say about motherhood, how would you describe it, but negative terms would you use? i'm talking about keywords like old age, poverty, the mother, we usually go part—time, tax models, especially in germany for i am from, i compared germany and the political preconditions for families with friends in scandinavia for example. or not, you were prompted to carry out your study by a saint—jerome decision not to have children. when did you make the decision and why? i knew since i was 16 that i will not be a mother. for me, it sounds really logical that there are women who want to be mothers and others who do not want

to be mothers. and after i studied about it in israel i wrote my first book, about the unwillingness of israeli women and men to be parents. i was left out with a sentence that ke pt i was left out with a sentence that kept troubling me and that is the promise, being told to everyone who doesn't want to be a parent, you will surely regret this and it really troubled me why we don't hear about the other option that may be parents, maybe, some of them might regret themselves and this is why i wrote my second study about it and for me, the connection... let me ask you, what with the common reasons mothers gave you for regretting their reason to have children?” think most of the time people as soon that mothers who regret have a dreadful or horrifying story behind

their regret and what i found, they are saying, we heard before i talk, women whojust are saying, we heard before i talk, women who just understand it's are saying, we heard before i talk, women whojust understand it's not for them. the heavy responsibility, the fact that it's going to remain there to the rest of your life. and for some of us, it doesn't suit us. we will not find it dramatic all or tragical stories most of the time. 0k... tragical stories most of the time. ok... i'm going to... we've had some bad to have got in touch with us as well saying they have had felt the same thing, regrets over having children and we are going to speak to ron who is in yorkshire. good morning. good morning victoria. you had three children pretty close to each other than you were relatively

young, i know you love them but nevertheless you wish you'd never had them? i wish i'd never had them when i was young. right. probably a strange thing to say. go on, explain. 0ne strange thing to say. go on, explain. one of my problems really was we had three children quite close together and the stress and hassle with the children, getting away from them, that was my stress, how i felt, i always felt they were going to hurt themselves when i was managing them. i went to the doctor and he said i was depressed, i took ta blets and he said i was depressed, i took tablets but it didn't change me. how do you feel towards them now? god, i love them with all my life but it caused an issue with my wife and i and we separated the cause of it. because of the stress of looking after three children? yes, indeed. do you regret having them? no, absolutely not. but i wish i was better informed, i wish i knew more

or less what i know now, i would not had three. what was it have that you did not know, everyone knows having three kids is going to be really hard. absolutely, i understand but what i didn't understand, the emotional tie, for me, it was more the stress of having the children around me which made me change the dynamics of the relationship. the relationship went from traditional, get married, have some children, live happily ever after but that did not live happily ever afterjimmy, i have the children, i was miserable. thank you so much and we appreciate you being honest. do you think there isa dream you being honest. do you think there is a dream that most women, most men grow up with, we are going to settle down, have children? we should? ? grow up with, we are going to settle down, have children? we should?? we are told only half the truth and

this is perhaps why the title of sarah's book, because we are being told only half of the truth, we are being told that for every one of us it's going to be a total happiness. this is not true. and we are not having enough room... you know, models around us to imagine other scripts of living, we don't have it in front of us and therefore we are being told from a very young age, this is the only route. that is open for us and we don't have our imagination is being occupied by only one possibility and this is a problem. let me read this final comment alison to you if i may, from ross, saying i watched your programme this morning knowing i can't have children, as a human

being in this world i hope people can understand this is major‘s way of trying to balance a population that this planet can sustain. we are at the moment over populating the world, nobody should feel sad if they cannot or do not feel they want children. let's just make sure those children. let's just make sure those children that are born or loved by everyone. do you agree? yes, yes. thank you very much, thank you for coming on the programme and thank you to my other guests for your time as well. a few hours after labour leader jeremy corbyn gave a tv interview saying concern about anti—semitism in the party is "genuine". he had dinner with a fringejewish group in his constituency who believe the current controversy about anti semitism is the work of rightwingers and israel is — according to one tweet — "a steaming pile of sewage which needs to be properly disposed of"? the chairman of the campaign

against anti—semitism described mr corbyn's attendance as " a very clear two fingered salute at mainstream britishjewry." in a minute we'll talk tojon lansman from momentum — they're the labour movement who back jeremy cobyn but first we can speak to jonathan goldstein from thejewish leadership council. jonathan goldstein. givenjeremy given jeremy corbyn's givenjeremy corbyn's stands on racism, don't you think what's being said is absurd? since he's become leader of the labour party there has been an increasing amount of anti—semitism in the labour party and the question is not whether or notjeremy corbyn is or is not an anti—semite, none of us have labelled him as that, it's a question whether he is going to be as he said he would a militant ally

in the fight against anti—semitism and i'm afraid to say his actions so fardo and i'm afraid to say his actions so far do not match up to his words. right, when he said for example i wa nt to right, when he said for example i want to be clear i will not tolerate any form of anti—semitism that exists in or around our movement, we must stamp it out from our party and our movement, we recognise anti—semitism has occurred within pockets of the labour party, that's not enough? it's not whether it's enough or not, his first act following that is to go to a dinner last night with an organisation who on thursday published a letter saying this was all smears against jeremy corbyn and saying this was a right—wing conspiracy to stop him becoming the prime minister of this country. having dinner with them makes you believe what about his approach to anti—semitism? makes you believe what about his approach to anti-semitism? the issue is the message he sends to the community, we've asked him to reach out to the mainstream jewish community, we've asked him for a long period to do this, it's not a new issue. he has been trying to

have a meeting with your leadership council... it took us to take to the streets last monday for an invitation finally to be issued from the leader of the opposition to the mainstream jewish community, we responded on wednesday with questions and a request that he stop the attacks on the labour mps who bravely stood with us last monday. those preconditions... i would not see it as a condition, it seems to mea see it as a condition, it seems to me a pretty low bar to say to me to david lambie, luciano burge, chuka umunna, he will be their defender, sta nford umunna, he will be their defender, stanford them as they are attacked online, and threatened with deselection for attending and meeting on anti—semitism. his actions speak volumes and it's not an issue about jewdas. that's the name of the group he had dinner

with. correct. everyone has a wide spread of opinion, jeremy corbyn is no longerjust a constituency mp, he's the leader of her majesty's opposition who wants to be the next prime minister of this country. when you say it speaks volumes that he sat down and had dinner withjewdas last night, it into words what it says. the mainstream leaders were booed as their names were stated at the dinner last night at which german corbyn was present, the letter they issued on thursday said these were all smears and that we we re these were all smears and that we were pa rt of these were all smears and that we were part of a right—wing conspiracy. surely it cannot be sensible ifjeremy wishes to build bridges with the community. cars jeremy corbyn. attending a dinner... there... —— who is said to have booed? there is a tape on the internet. thank you. mr goldstein says it speaks volumes

that mainstream leaders names when they were read out were booed.” wasn't at the dinner, i don't know what was said. if that happened, what was said. if that happened, what would you say? i can't speculate on things i did not hear, idid not speculate on things i did not hear, i did not hear the details, as far asiam i did not hear the details, as far as i am concerned i am concerned as jeremy and jonathan are about the problems of anti—semitism, i don't think they are just a smear, i think that's wrong to say that, it's not a conspiracy, there is no doubt how the jewish community feel. about the labour party at the moment and i'm very concerned about that because i ama very concerned about that because i am a jew— macro myself. very concerned about that because i am a jew—macro myself. because i am

am a jew—macro myself. because i am a due myself. we have done too little so far... does he think that? in his last statement to jonathan and the board of deputies last week... he talked about pockets of anti—semitism. week... he talked about pockets of anti-semitism. that was the first one and! anti-semitism. that was the first one and i think it is more widespread. how widespread? there is a problem of unconscious bias. what does that mean? i'll explain. look, there are a small number of cases of ivoryjust —— there are a small number of cases of ivory just —— of there are a small number of cases of ivoryjust —— of outrageous holocaust and now, there is a much wider problem of unconscious bias which is similar if you like to be unconscious bias that we send people on training courses if they are doing recruitment, interviewing, they are aware of their unconscious bias, unfortunately the labour party seems and maybe elsewhere, many people do not seem to be willing to confront this unconscious as in

themselves and we need a big programme of education and training to make people aware of that. should have jeremy should havejeremy corbyn go on that education and training programme but only i think everybody, on them as the national executive, should consider it... - mr the national executive, should consider it... mr needs 52212???le '52' " 252i ' 52.55? 25:22:12 122221; 52212???le '52' " 252i ' 52.55? 25:22:12 $2222.12 55155151555 '5' " 255i ' 5555? 555511115 $5552.15 5 w, people who é 55155151555 '5' " 255i ' 5555: 5555511115 $5555.15 55 in‘ people who 5 55155151555 '5' " 255i ' 5555: 5555511115 $5555.15 55 in decisions ho 5 the participate in decisions about the cases. that is extraordinary, what you have just said, cases. that is extraordinary, what you havejust said, the leader of the labour party... it is not extraordinary. you believe needs to go on training and education? extraordinary. you believe needs to go on training and education7m extraordinary. you believe needs to go on training and education? it is not extraordinary for anyone who makes decisions about matters to do with anti—semitism, should go on a training course, just like in the labour party in relation to sexual

harassment, we require everyone to undergo courses about sexual harassment, it is exactly the same, people are aware of unknown meanings... people use words like zionism without understanding how those words are seen by some people. some people use the word zionism to mean the politics of benjamin netanyahu, mean the politics of benjamin neta nyahu, but mean the politics of benjamin netanyahu, but most jewish mean the politics of benjamin netanyahu, but mostjewish people see zionism as meaning support for a state of israel, rather than a kind of discrete ideology. there have always been many currents within the spectrum of zionism and within the jewish community. have you had a conversation with mr corbyn about that mural? not about the mural, no. is it feasible to you that he did not look properly enough and didn't

realise it was anti—semitic? at think it is possible, he says it is andl think it is possible, he says it is and i don't think he lies, so yes, i believe it is possible. it isjust that he has a blind spot perhaps?” very ,

may"; e 1 ifm,‘ e5 4.11"; e 1&11: w1,” 51111; e will to review the process is... she will to review the process is... in fact we agreed on this at the la st in fact we agreed on this at the last meeting of the national executive to set up a working party to which i proposed and which i am a memberof, to which i proposed and which i am a member of, which is going to review all of the procedures in relation to overseeing the cases of anti—semitism, to ensure that we bring them to hearings as quickly as possible. and that the process is fit for purpose. i do think people need to go on training courses double if jeremy. .. we need to go on training courses double ifjeremy... we all do, he may not participate in those decisions, not everybody has had training in sexual harassment cases, which is why a relatively small numberof which is why a relatively small number of people deal with those cases on the national executive. and so, these recommendations, all on the back of shami chakrabarti's 20 recommendations when she did her report for the leader of your party, into anti—semitism,...

report for the leader of your party, into anti-semitism,... not all of them have been implemented. and we andjeremy and his them have been implemented. and we and jeremy and his advisers have been concerned for sometime about the non—in fermentation, i deeply regret that. until recently, —— the non—implementation. .. the national executive did not have a majority of people who have been loyal to... there is now a new general secretary, we have got to get down to it and that is what i as a member of the nationally and intend to get down to and i have absolute confidence that that is what jeremy wants to do, too. people who go on this training, possibly even including jeremy corbyn, what do you think they should come away with, as ajewish think they should come away with, as a jewish man who has think they should come away with, as ajewish man who has labour threw him? people need to understand, people who are not jewish and who have not experienced anti—semitism, need to understand how a jew experiences anti—semitism, what they

experience, what constitutes anti—semitism. because at the moment people do not understand it, and they are therefore unaware of things that they say, using poorly chosen language tolerate... and therefore exhibiting unconscious, inadvertent prejudice which i think most of it is. it is still important to deal with it but it needs to be addressed by merrily by education and training. thanks the coming on the programme. your response to whatjon lansmann was programme. your response to whatjon la nsmann was saying? programme. your response to whatjon lansmann was saying? well, i think that the underlying issue here, we have been saying that this is a time for action, not the words. i think the excuses that we are hearing from the excuses that we are hearing from the party over. we heard an excuse there from jon lansmann atjeremy corbyn did not have a majority on the nec for the last 20 corbyn did not have a majority on the nec fo he e last 20 mmthfll corbyn did not have a majority on the nec fo he e last not“~*“*5= chakravarty, in own

chakravarty, excuses! in his own words, not in writing, stop the smears per. the attacks, let's start from that very low base. it is not asking a lot. the community is really not asking for everything, the last thing the joyce really not asking for everything, the last thing thejoyce community wa nts the last thing thejoyce community wants is to be on the street, i would rather be at work! —— the last thing the jewish community would rather be at work! —— the last thing thejewish community wants... he has said many times, anti—semitism will not be tolerated. he has said it in writing... so what do you want now? i would like to see him come out into the publics and speak to people like you, mainstream media organisations. he was on the news last night. not talking about anti—semitism, not issuing an absolute denial and not saying to the community, stop the smears, and stop attacking the mps who stood in the demonstration. it is a very low bar, and we can then all build from

this. thank you, jonathan goldstein and jon lansmann. and mr corbyn if you are watching we were very much like you to come on our programme, tomorrow, the day after, any day of your choosing. still to come — claims that universities aren't properly addressing racism on campus. we'll hear from some students who say they're facing discrimination on a daily basis. time for the latest news — here'sjulian the bbc news headlines this morning. a 17—year—old girl has been shot dead in north london, in what's thought to be the 47th murder in the capital this year. police were called to a road in tottenham shortly after 9.30 last night to reports of a shooting. a 16—year—old boy is also critically ill in hospital after being shot in a separate incident in walthamstow on the same night. police do not know if they're connected at this stage. the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, is facing further

criticism of his stance on anti—semitism after attending an event organised by a left—wing jewish group. jewdas has been openly critical of mainstream jewish organisations and has suggested there's a smear campaign against the labour leader. some labour mps have seen mr corbyn's attendance as a sign he isn't taking anti—semitism seriously. a labour spokeswoman said mr corbyn was invited byjewish members of his local community and that he is urgently seeking meetings to discuss tackling antisemitism. universities put their reputations first, before confronting the racist abuse of students. that's the claim by the president of the national union of students, who told this programme she receives calls on a daily basis from students reporting racist incidents. the former universities minister david lammy says universities need to redouble their efforts to crack down on campus racism. 10 new assessment centres designed to speed up cancer diagnosis are being introduced in england. gps will be able to refer patients who have vague symptoms including unexplained weight loss, abdominal pain and fatigue,

to the so—called one stop shops, where they can undergo tests for different cancers. if the project is successful then more centres will be opened. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. here's some sport now. england completed their cricketing winter without any test wins, they could not find the elusive victory in the second is another gives new zealand, who blocked their way to a draw in christchurch. black caps took the series 1—0. australia have been thrashed in their first test since the ball tampering scandal, losing to south africa by 492 runs injohannesburg, losing to south africa by 492 runs in johannesburg, as vernon losing to south africa by 492 runs injohannesburg, as vernon philander ripped through the tourists' batting line—up, meaning that the aussies have lost that series 3—1. alistair brownlee has been selected to carry the england flag in the commonwealth

games opening seven mini on the gold coast tomorrow. he is a double 0lympic coast tomorrow. he is a double olympic champion and also won two gold medals in glasgow four years ago, and the welsh flag will be carried by jazz carlin, ago, and the welsh flag will be carried byjazz carlin, the ago, and the welsh flag will be carried by jazz carlin, the swimmer who is also a commonwealth medallist, and she will be defending her 800 metres freestyle title on the gold coast to. that is the sport. a 17—year—old woman has been shot dead in north london. scotland yard says officers were called to tottenham yesterday evening, and she died at the scene. it comes as latest figures show more murders took place in london in february and march than in new york. 0ur correspondent alison freeman is in north london for us. good morning. good morning. 0fficers we re good morning. good morning. 0fficers were called here just after half past nine last night to reports of a shooting. an eyewitness has reported that the 17—year—old victim was outside her house when a car pulled up outside her house when a car pulled up and she wish i'd, that has come

from an eyewitness, not from the police. paramedics were called and tried to save her but they were unable to. you can see behind me the tent where police have been focusing their investigations this morning. this was the first of two incidents that happened last night. about half an hour later, at ten o'clock, officers were called to walthamstow, where a 16—year—old suffered gunshot wounds and he is currently in a critical condition in hospital and in that incident, a 15—year—old was also stabbed, and they are also in hospital. not sure of the condition of them at the moment. this is the 47th murder investigation to be launched in london this year. eight injanuary, launched in london this year. eight in january, 15 launched in london this year. eight injanuary, 15 in february, 22 in march and two so far in april. and what are the people who live there saying about this? yes, we have been chatting to a few people on the streets, one lady was very upset, she said she had a relative about the same age as the 17—year—old victim and she was concerned about

her coming round to her house in the evening and being on the streets and being at risk. another elderly lady told me that her and her husband sibley do not go out at night because they are worried about these things happening right here on their doorstep. jermaine lawlor, founder of voice4youthagainstviolence, rapper and ex gang member joins us now. how do you respond to the deaths this year? firstly, my condolences go to the family. it is absolutely unbelievable in terms of the amount of murders that we are seeing. we are reacting to the problems rather than acting on them. so, what could the police do differently, what could the communities hunching differently in terms of being proactive to try to stop this? reinvest, proactive to try to stop this? rei nvest, reinvest proactive to try to stop this? reinvest, reinvest back into these

communities, asked young people and communities, asked young people and communities are not being invested in. and if they were? they would have opportunities, greater future prospects, and it would decrease people joining prospects, and it would decrease peoplejoining gangs prospects, and it would decrease people joining gangs and prospects, and it would decrease peoplejoining gangs and going into a life of criminality. we all know there has been austerities since 2010, it is now 2018 — why do you think the figures are so high right now? because this as i said has been a aggressive problem, those cuts that were made ten, 15 years ago, we're seeing the fruits of that today, we're seeing the lack of investment, of the lack of youth clu bs, investment, of the lack of youth clubs, suspects for young people, it is easier to enter again than it is to go to college, to go to university and to become successful, it is easier to go down that path of committing crime and going into a

gang. possibly it is but it is a choice you make, isn't it? it is but it is all about understanding what influences choicest. we have to take responsibility as a society, as a government that we fail a lot of our young people, we have to take response military as a community and asa response military as a community and as a society, because a lot of these young people are socially excluded. what you mean by that? they are exempt from services like the police services because of the way they are brought up the place they are brought up. and the fact that london appears to have overta ken that london appears to have overtaken new york when it comes to the number of murders this year so far, what do you say? it's a great worry, a great shock, we have been speaking on the problems, i've had numerous conversations with yourself and we are not seen the changes, not

asking the right questions. thank you. thank you as well to you for your comments on motherhood and those of you who acknowledged today that if you had your time again you would not have children. ali says i grew up knowing that my mum did not wa nt grew up knowing that my mum did not want me, she was always angry and there was no affection. although she provided all my material and physical needs. when i had a child of my own i became very depressed cos i could not understand how anyone could not want all of their own child. i plucked up the courage to ask my mum why she hadn't loved me expect in some big revelation or tragic explanation, she just said i just couldn't, i don't know why. it was as simple as that. no drama, no big revelations. i can't say i haven't been affected eye this, it has formed my personality and my issues of low sulphur steam and i find a publisher should spray difficult but it made me a great

mum, as every day i showed them the love i had not been shown. and i find it difficult. another viewer says my mum did not want children before she had me of us physically and mentally abused, i had a dreadful childhood trying to win love from someone who did not have loved to get. they are very upsetting, those messages but thank you for sharing them. this morning — racism in british universities in 2018. the president of the national union of students tells us she receives calls from students reporting racist incidents on a daily basis and that universities are more concerned about protecting their reputations then properly dealing with the issue. 0ur reporter ashleyjohn baptiste has this exclusive report. hello, jordan, how are you doing?

jordan is in his second year at the university of surrey study mars but after an incident last, he is lucky to be alive. i was the victim of aggravated assault, 15 students eat me up because of the colour of my skin. —— beat me up. the next thing i knew i was in an ambulance being rushed to hospital because i had received quite severe blows, muscular injuries, some ligament injuries as well to my head, neck, spine. jordan couldn't walk for two weeks after the beating but his physical injuries have now healed, the emotional impact took a little longer. i felt unsafe, the emotional impact took a little longer. ifelt unsafe, scared the emotional impact took a little longer. i felt unsafe, scared to be alone, especially at night time. you know, you can go to this lecture, you can walk this distance, it was a big struggle. there wasn't enough

evidence to press charges against those arrested, a spokesperson for the university of surrey said... there are no overall figures for the number of racist incidents that occur at university but a report in 2011 written by the national union of stu d e nts 2011 written by the national union of students found one in six black stu d e nts of students found one in six black students had experienced racism at the institution. the real number could be a lot higher according to the national union of students president. racism is one of the biggest issues black and bme stu d e nts biggest issues black and bme students experience on campus, they tell me they have been called the m word or it it is why here in

westminster a labour politician and former universities and mr says says institutions must do more to crack down on racism. i think universities have to redouble their efforts to support students and have a zero tolerance approach to anything that comes anywhere near racial hatred. and he says race hate on campus is on the rise because of wider issues in society. there are young people arriving on university campuses listening to some of the xenophobic and racist conversations that they may have heard in the communities they are coming from or even sadly in theirown family they are coming from or even sadly in their own family homes and replicating this behaviour in the freedom of university. so we have seena spike, freedom of university. so we have seen a spike, it is a problem. and it needs to be cracked down on very aggressively. let's talk to yasmin and yusra ahmed, who experienced racist abuse at university, of hull, kehinde andrews, associate professor

in sociology at birmingham city university and the country's first black studies professor and liz bromley, deputy vice—chancellor, university of central lancashire. welcome to all of you and thank you so much for coming onto the programme. tell us what happened in your time at all? we moved to the halls of residence and we were racially abused, it started verbal abuse, it went to threatening behaviour, to the extent... can you give us example is? some boys through a fire extender sure up my door after they were name—calling, using the n word and doosra was also moved from her previous accommodation and in our new accommodation and in our new accommodation we were still faced with racial abuse. —— yusra. accommodation we were still faced with racial abuse. -- yusra. prior to the main incident we reported to the accommodation warden but we did not receive any response so we

thought the issue wasn't taken seriously and so this event followed straight after. ok. and then for it you do? that's when we decided to call the police and the university started to take action and remove us from the accommodation. in total, we have been moved around four times, two have been because of the incident, throughout that process we we re incident, throughout that process we were constantly ying moved from one accommodation to another but the issue was not being tackled and it wasn't being listened to properly. what do you think of the fact you we re what do you think of the fact you were being moved because you were experiencing racist abuse? exactly, that's the question a lot of people have asked, i think they should have dealt with the problem at hand, spoken about racism openly. but they just kind of moved us because that was the easy option. when someone is banging on your door or chucking a

fire extinguisher added whilst calling you the n word what effect does that have on you? it was our first time moving away from home in the first time many students live away from home at the age of 18, you are independent and to have that as your first experience are independent and to have that as yourfirst experience in are independent and to have that as your first experience in your first year at university was pretty daunting and also facing that extreme kind of racial abuse is even more daunting as an 18—year—old. and i think it isn'tjust us, it happens to so many students across the country who are literally in the same position as us. what did the police do? the police tried to find cct images but they could not find any because the university did not have any cameras on site at the time and so they referred us to the university and they asked them to investigate it instead. did the university investigate 7 investigate it instead. did the university investigate? they did but they could not find any evidence because there was no camera so they could not find the culprits. the

university poll says we take any reports of inappropriate behaviour including racism extreme you seriously and can confirm any incidents of this nature are treated with the utmost care and importance. we support our students following appropriate procedures and work with releva nt appropriate procedures and work with relevant partners including police when necessary, the health and safety a nd when necessary, the health and safety and well—being of our stu d e nts safety and well—being of our students as our primary concern and we are committed to promoting equality of opportunity for all. i wa nt to equality of opportunity for all. i want to bring in if i can be associate professor of sociology at birmingham city university. thank you for talking to us. we focused really the experience of ethnic minority students at university, you are one of a very small number of black professors, give our audience a sense of just black professors, give our audience a sense ofjust how small a number that is. i am not personally a professor, the problem is so bad as of 19,000 professors in the uk less than 100 are black british, less than 100 are black british, less than 100 are black british, less than 100 of pakistani and bangladeshi origin, you have a star

faces overwhelmingly white, especially at the top levels of university. white do you think it is7 university. white do you think it is? one of the things we find only told about university is that it is a utopia with progressive ideals, in effect, they are as institutionally racist as the police force, they don't hire black people, promote black people, if you are a student you are less likely to get a degree, more likely to drop out and the curriculum is so eurocentric that students ashley campaigning, asking why is my curriculum quite7 there is a huge structural problem with racism university. let's bring in less from the, deputy vice chancellor, do you accept universities are as institutionally racist as any other organisation? no, i don't accept that at all. i think universities face the same challenges as any large institution or sector of society that has people in it, some of whom are racist, some

of whom are our aggressive, hostile to other members of society. but institutions like universities i think thrive on being diverse, having respect for multiculturalism andi having respect for multiculturalism and i think the professorfrom birmingham makesa and i think the professorfrom birmingham makes a very good point about diversification of the curriculum but it takes time to do that. british universities are trying to do that in an overall fashion. it strikes me from our investigation that filed the police are involved, universities quite rightly take a back—seat when it comes to investigating incidents of racism, sometimes police investigation leads nowhere because there is no evidence of cctv and then the universities don't really do much either apart from potentially move those who have been the victim of racist abuse? again, i dump and that's entirely fair, i know where universities have stu d e nts know where universities have students complained or behavioural issues the police activity has to ta ke issues the police activity has to

take precedence. —— again i don't think that's entirely fair. universities have to have the freedom to do their own investigations but bear in mind people had to have evidence behind them when they make complaints or are accused of bad behaviour. very briefly, this charge that universities can more about reputation than tackling racism which comes from the nus president, what do you say? i don't agree, i think university reputations growth when we diversify the curriculum, employee more bme staff, when we show our values and standards, things we live and work by. do you agree with the nus president, reputations are more important than packing racist abuse? reputations are more important than packing racist abuse 7” reputations are more important than packing racist abuse? i think unfortunately with the organisation of higher education it is more about reputation, racist attacks do not go down well with literature, there is a big problem with universities not addressing the extent of the problem. thank you so much all of

you. thank you forjoining us on the programme. we wish you all the best. thank you for your company. and thank you for watching. have a good day. hello. by thursday things looking quieter, before then, a couple of u nsettled quieter, before then, a couple of unsettled days, sunshine and showers across much of england and wales today. shower is pushing eastwards, easing from the south—west, if you catch one it could be heavy with thunder. this band of rain pushing across northern ireland, england, southern scotland, in the north, elsinore, temperatures not higher than 5 degrees, compared to 13—15 further south. two spells, driver time across england and wales, another band of rain pushing northwards into northern ireland, towards the borders, hill snow for scotland, temperatures hovering around freezing. 4—9d further south,

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