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tv   The Papers  BBC News  April 4, 2018 10:45pm-11:01pm BST

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most of the front pages but an awful lot of them headlining this story about the pensioner arrested over the death of the burglar. that is certainly the headline in the telegraph. this was in southeast london last night and richard osborne brooks is still being in custody tonight. he found an intruder in his home, allegedly, and is now being investigated for murder, and i think what a lot of the papers are discussing is it was his house and there were two intruders who came into the house and it's going to widen the debate about the right to self—defense and reasonable force. of course this has echoes of the tony martin case. absolutely. that really dominated headlines and lyrical debate —— political debate for many a week backin political debate for many a week back in the early 90s. and i rememberl back in the early 90s. and i remember i was writing about william hague at the time, leader of the position as he then was and he got very embroiled in that row i think.
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a lot of politicians saw it as a way to associate with the ordinary person to make a stand for law and order. and i suspect given the extent to which this has been cove red extent to which this has been covered in front pages today that we may see a repeat of that. my only concern, may see a repeat of that. my only concern, and this is obviously an important story and should be cove red, important story and should be covered, is that the moment we are seeing this absolutely horrific spike in knife crime and gun crime particularly in london and in i think it would be unfortunate if this one particular story was to ta ke this one particular story was to take the news agenda away from that, which really ought to be at the top of all of our concerns right now. indeed and we've already got politicians piling in on this story about the pensioner, haven't week? yes. priti patel a former cabinet minister said there is a gold in public confidence in the criminal justice system and i think it is a frightening thought twos think there'll be an intruder in your home
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andi there'll be an intruder in your home and i think obviously we cannot talk about the specifics of this case but ina about the specifics of this case but in a general sense this is a terrifying thought and i think she has a point in the sense that the criminal justice system has a point in the sense that the criminaljustice system must be there to protect and after the tony martin case the law and unreasonable force was clarified that you can use reasonable force against an intruder in your home but it's the remains quite murky i think legally. in your home but it's the remains quite murky i think legallylj in your home but it's the remains quite murky i think legally. i think thatis quite murky i think legally. i think that is right because inevitably you got to have some grounds for debate amongst the lawyers about it over any specifics of any particular case. yes and clearly this is a light case and we don't know quite what is going to happen yet. let's move on to one of the other big stories that we have been discussing today. with the striking headline in the times uk locates the source of the times uk locates the source of the salisbury nerve agent. this is a really interesting headline. not only because of the importance of the substance of the story, but also it tells us a bit about what is
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going on in terms of the politics of the story with where we are right now. and i suspect that the government has made this information, this security information, this security information public in an effort to wrest back the sword of propaganda war —— propaganda war over this story because rightly or wrongly, there have been some questions in there have been some questions in the last couple of days about the veracity of the government's claim. notjust veracity of the government's claim. not just that we have veracity of the government's claim. notjust that we have had the foreign office having to retract a tweet, the head of porton down saying we never said it came from russia. i think what the head has said the weight it was reported on has been by other politicians have been completely irresponsible quite frankly. i hope that once and for all this will help the government to make the case that the actions they have taken with regards to russia have taken with regards to russia have been absolutely appropriate. have taken with regards to russia have been absolutely appropriatelj have been absolutely appropriate.” would agree, actually. i think scientists are very exact people and
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the chief executive was sticking to basically what he said and what was right which is they identified this as nova talk developed by russia but they cannot pinpoint however the government's case has always been we did not —— we did notjust you than we did not —— we did notjust you than we used intelligence, the fact that russia has form on this, but it is the way that russia has used the cracks in the story to try to get a pr coup out of this and actually if you look at the sequence of events, borisjohnson is on you look at the sequence of events, boris johnson is on the you look at the sequence of events, borisjohnson is on the back you look at the sequence of events, boris johnson is on the back foot over an interview he gave in germany la st over an interview he gave in germany last month. he was saying it was concluded that it was the doubt but it's the way russia are being able to misinterpret what has been going on and it makes it look like britain is all over the place so you are right. they're not trying to hit back and say we know where this nerve agent comes from. it matters because they have managed to convince a 28 other countries to expel russian representatives and if there is now a doubt as to whether
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what russia was behind it. mike i'm not sure there is any serious doubt under —— amongst those countries and i think that is testament to how strong the government's case is. what has happened is thatjeremy corbyn and particularly i think wanting probably to distract attention from charges of anti—semitism has charged in here and really tried to make political capital out of it and i'm pleased frankly to see that the government have come out and made the case even more strongly. let's move on and look at the financial times, which has this story about psa france putting its faith in britain by pledging £100 million to make man's in luton. i think this is interesting. great news in luton, not so much other places, the doubt over the future of manufacturing there but of course everyone is concerned about brexit and whether people are still investing on the manufacturing industry in this country as well is quite difficult.
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it isa country as well is quite difficult. it is a really good news story. i think it also shows it this is an economy that the amount of online shopping we are doing at the country there are thousands of small businesses of men and women having their own van and driving around and delivering and this is the way the economy is moving toward that that dfa has he missed opportunity and said it's a great opportunity to make more psa —— psa. said it's a great opportunity to make more psa -- psa. also, jane, i know you said putting aside brexit, but it's quite difficult to put aside brexit in the sense with in reference to these kinds of stories and yet again we have a story on the front page of the financial times which as we know is not a big fan of brexit. really flying in the face of many of those experts who said we are on a cliff edge with all of
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these potential investments. one investment does not a brexit summer make but it is certainly good news as it were for spring. the main headline here on the pensioner story we we re headline here on the pensioner story we were discussing earlier but it does have room for a banner across the top about ray wilkins and there have been lots of very, very warm tributes today. it's a real find. have been lots of very, very warm tributes today. it's a realfind. he was so young at 61 years old to die andi was so young at 61 years old to die and i think the tributes that have come forward as you say is notjust asa come forward as you say is notjust as a brilliant footballer he was, he would hold a team together, the classic midfield general but also the fact he was such a nice guy and that people have said he set himself bea that people have said he set himself be a nice person, be a great person and you can get along in life. i think... not necessarily true of all footballers. no. i have to say across the top year it describes him as an absolute gent and a class act andl as an absolute gent and a class act and i think these are the kind of role models that certainly as a
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mother of a football mad son and i would like to see a few more of them in theircurrent would like to see a few more of them in their current generation of players. certainly. the guardian, which of course has made a lot of the running on the cambridge analytica story reporting facebook saying the data scandal may have hit 87 million users, admission from base but what we have been discussing here on the news channel. this is a scandal which shows no sign of dying down and facebook now admitting that it's affected more people than we had thought. yes. reluctantly people than we had thought. yes. relucta ntly admitting it people than we had thought. yes. reluctantly admitting it it would seem, or by default admitting it. it isa seem, or by default admitting it. it is a fascinating... we are in the midst of a huge social change in which many thousands, millions of people have voluntarily given away information about themselves that they would not have dreamt of doing only a couple of decades ago. these companies were operating with impunity relatively in recent years
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and the tide is turning and people are asking more questions, which i think it's absolutely healthy thing to do, but we also have to take some responsibility for this ourselves because we volunteered this information to these otherwise unaccountable bodies. and we are now hearing 87 million people who maybe just happen to be friends of someone who did an online survey our about finding their data has been taken and used in political campaigns allegedly. it is a huge amount and initially facebook said it was 50 millions of the member has a slightly cracked up. i do say they provided this at the end of a really long update, one might about how many people were affected and we are talking about pr coups and being able to handle a story. it's would have handled this in a terrible way. mark suttner perk and other be going to go on for a few days while the story was going on and to have this —— mark zucker burke. to have this drip, drip of information is really
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disturbing. iam drip, drip of information is really disturbing. i am on facebook and use that forfamily disturbing. i am on facebook and use that for family and close friends and there was a big thing a couple of weeks ago people saying they would delete their account but it is like closing the stable door after the worst is bolted because what is the worst is bolted because what is the point now? if they have already scraped my data what is the point of leaving facebook now? i don't know. the point i suppose is to make a stand because if people leave it for just that they're not happy with the way things have been run, that affects the advertising and it is voting with your feet and that is the sort of thing that forces corporations and, to lead a conglomeration to look at how they run things —— corporations and conglomeration to look at how they run things. it has been a disaster for facebook. and had an marked who it was rumoured to have presidential hopes down the line and he came out like you're the year for it delete it before talking about community and it is a flow, naive approach to the world just because you have this nice social media company that is preventing they're not really bad
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people in the world who are going to use facebook for a rented things like child pornography and terrorism and they have been so slow on that and they have been so slow on that andi and they have been so slow on that and i think all of those chickens are coming home to roost in terms of security and now in terms of data and they have failed actually to respond in the right way, i think. we have run out of time and this time around. that is for the papers tonight. don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers on mind on the bbc news website. it is all there for you seven days a week. if you missed the programme and evening you can watch it later on the bbci player. my thanks to our guest. we'll be back after 11:30pm but for now it is goodbye. at long last a little bit of good weather news in the forecast tonight. i think some of you need it
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especially across parts of southern island. we saw seemed a gimmick that recorded this afternoon a stone throw away from edinburgh. this is the area of cloud responsible but it is all shifting eastward allowing viewers to move in from the west. we have snow for a time across parts of the borders, the higher ground of northern england, lower levels of showers and rain across eastern england all starts to become confined to a few showers by the morning. legacy of cloud sitting here with a re—spot that will stop temperatures dropping much lower. blue on the chart elsewhere with clear skies, widespread —— widespread fraud northern ireland, minus the 4—7 into a chilly start thursday morning. a few showers in northern scotland but not too many. the crowd in east anglia quickly departing through the rush—hour and an ice day and your good weather news. most places dry through the good, long sunny spells. barely a cloud in the sky but sunshine turned hazy. the cloud in the west will
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thicken up as we go through into thursday night. it is all linked into the low—pressure in the north atla ntic into the low—pressure in the north atlantic bringing rain bearing would've gone into the far west through the day but also drag in milderair through the day but also drag in milder air from through the day but also drag in milder airfrom the through the day but also drag in milder air from the south. for friday if you are in eastern wheels, through parts of england and eastern scotla nd through parts of england and eastern scotland you will stay dry probably. but wait a bit of sunshine at times especially cloudier in the west, occasional rain in northern ireland and turning where western scotland, wales, cornwall through the afternoon. temperatures will be on the up into the teens for some. that mild air hanging onto the far east of us, evening to saturday, pretty mild airjust off the near continent butjulie osler. mild airjust off the near continent but julie osler. the mild airjust off the near continent butjulie osler. the weather front separating us from mild air saturday will bring rain breaking up sunny spells may develop and if it does 18 degrees is behind. the rest of the country warning local outbreaks of sunny spells, one or two isolated showers. compared to last week and a
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much milder weekend in store. sunday a lot more in the way of mist and fog, that strong sunshine will break up. slow moving isolated showers for northern and western areas, most trial but the threat of rain in the southeast corner and temperatures quite widely in double figures. this is bbc news. i'm carol walker. the headlines at 11: russia demands an emergency meeting of the un security council to discuss britain's allegations into the poisoning of a former spy and his daughter. the move comes as moscow loses a crucial vote at the chemical weapons watchdog for a joint investigation with britain. buckingham palace says the duke of edinburgh has had a successful operation to replace a hip and is in good spirits. mark zuckerberg insists he is still the right person to run facebook, after the social media giant reveals 87 million users may have had their data improperly shared with cambridge analytica. here are the scenes in memphis
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as people have gathered to commemorate the life of black civil rights campaigner,

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