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welcome to hardtalk, i'm stephen sackur. and charleston, the biggest city in the state of south carolina in america's sar. today it is sunny and picturesque but charleston's prosperity was built on the back of the slave trade. nearly half of all of america's slaves arrived at its port. heiney is the slave market where they were bought and sold. the struggle for freedom and justice has been long and bloody. one of the most iconic leaders of that fight was martin luther king, the civil rights activist. my guest is his daughter, bernice king. what do she of race relations in his make of race relations in his country today? bernice king,

welcomed the hardtalk. thank you. us ceo of the king centre in atlanta, georgia, like your late father martin luther king, you are a church minister and you also preaches message of coexistence. when you look around the world today, including the united states, do you see coincidences between different people? you certainly said in various places, when i travel around the nation and the world but i think holistically, we have a lot of work to do in terms of understanding of different cultures, appreciating them, respecting them and finding a common way to move forward in society because we have a society of laws and opportunities and i think thatis laws and opportunities and i think that is where much of the friction lies. so just looking that is where much of the friction lies. sojust looking at that is where much of the friction lies. so just looking at the united states, an african—american wrote a

book called america is not post— racial and he says that the african—american civil rights movement of the 1950s and 60s, that it failed more than it succeeded. he thinks that he did not make progress on desegregation, he says today in my city, washington, dc, which is more than a third white, there is not a white child in any of the schools in my neighbourhood. well, i would not say that it failed. i think it was a progression, and obviously there is still discrimination that persist and sometimes it is difficult to prove in today's society but there are laws in place, thank god, that were not in place for my father lived. i would not say that it failed, i would not say that it failed, i would say that the leader of that movement, who was able to define it very clearly, we lost is his voice

and no one has emerged since that time to really articulate the movement the way he did. well, some would argue that the black lives matter campaign is trying to claim a kind of voice in the community and looking out their stands, it would seem looking out their stands, it would seem to suggest that they think that actually there is a great deal more that has to be achieved. for example, if you are to look at the protest, that would suggest that there is still very overt discrimination going on. yeah, it is over but i think you look at it as the glass is half empty or half full. yes, there is a overt racism but there is also a vert and obvious brotherhood and sisterhood in some immunities, and some relationships. ina way, immunities, and some relationships. in a way, i look at and approach

life to the lands of my mother's quote, she said that struggle is a never—ending process, freedom is never—ending process, freedom is never really will widen, we win it in every generation. we lost ground for my father's assassination up until this time period because we we re until this time period because we were not vigilant. the just staying with the take any protest, do you support that? what i support as i support that? what i support as i support people's right to protest and stand by their conscience. what i would like to be able to do is to help further that kind of movement. —— takea help further that kind of movement. —— take a knee. my father had a philosophy of nonviolence, and i think most people do not understand that protest, there is a reason and a rationale for protest in doctor king's philosophy. i am not saying that the way people protest today is

wrong, i'm just saying under the spirit of doctor king, we call it direct action, it was designed to bring about creative tension to get people back to a bargaining or negotiation table when you have set up negotiation table when you have set up to work things out. david leonard, a columnist in the new york times, said in october i believe trump is not only wrong but also deliberately picking a fight with african—americans to appeal to his base because obviously donald trump is criticise their actions, but nevertheless, he says i disagree with the need of a protest because it alienates people who could be persuaded to the cause. does he have a point? and again, it is very difficult. you have to really explained doctor king's philosophy and methodology, because that is what i live by. it is not a matter of whether he is wrong and they are right versus who is right or they are wrong versus he is wrong, is a matter of understanding the context

for truly a movement in the spirit of doctor king. i think both are right because, negotiation and direct action are part of the process but you have to know when direct action comes into play. and so, i would say that i support people's right to stand by their conscience and what they believe is right because that is to say, we have a right to protest for right. you think that his method and his approach are relevant in the 21st century, there has been a debate? people can debate until the cows come home, truth always prevails. at the end of the day, it is very releva nt. the end of the day, it is very relevant. because i must tell you, an african american lawyer has said in october this year, i think that in this era, the idea that you gain the moral high ground by wearing a suit and tie and by being nonviolence, by singing church

songs, that strategy is not effective in 2017. and i would say he is very ignorant to my father's methodology and philosophy, with all due respect. he does not understand it, he has not studied it and he does not know it because it is not about a suit and tie, it is not about a suit and tie, it is not about singing songs. it is about direct confrontation in a non—violent spirit and manner, against injustice and wrongdoing.- you think it might be a generational thing? because robert reynolds said in 2015 and she was an activist in the 1960s, she said black lives matter seems intent on rejecting a proven methods. the 1960s method had an innate respectability and change laws by delivering a message of love and unity, unfortunately church and spirituality are not high priorities for backlight is none of. do you agree with that? i agree that spirituality always has to be the foundation of a movement. and you

think that younger generations perhaps do not understand this message of spirituality, love and unity? i think they are searching for it, i would not say they do not understand it. ithink for it, i would not say they do not understand it. i think they are searching for it and i think at some point, they will land on it. so just ina point, they will land on it. so just in a nutshell, what would you say his underlying philosophy is that underpins what you think should be donein underpins what you think should be done in terms of... well, first of all you have to have a commitment to reconciliation, you have to have a commitment because that determines everything, how you approach things. you have to have a commitment win, it you can't have a commitment to winning over people, you have to have a commitment to winning people over. and i mean that clearly, things are not going in the right way because you have said that we are heading... i would disagree with you in this regard. you said quite recently we are heading to race riots if we're not careful. right. that is where the divisiveness is

going. but it is a key word because it is not translate into it will, this is an opportunity in this season this is an opportunity in this season for us to turn that around. i definitely believe that if people do not pause and really study doctor king, we could end there. i will say, teller till the cows come home, he was our profit. he was a prophet to not just he was our profit. he was a prophet to notjust this nation but the world, he told us what we needed to do and predicted what was going on. so going on, for example... that if we do not actively pursue justice in any nation, that tension is going to grow and turmoil in the streets will persist. he said that. you are referring to what we saw in cha rlottesville in referring to what we saw in charlottesville in august, for instance, when there was a white supremacist rally and counter protest by the antiracist. does insta nces protest by the antiracist. does instances of what has happened around law enforcement, in the

streets, all of that. the reverend from the mother manual church here in charleston, just a few miles away at from where your father was, was attacked tragically injuly by white supremacist, who killed nine worshippers, including the pastor. he said that he believes that race relations in the united states are getting worse. in some ways, it is but in other ways, there are people, like for instance, i'm working with a group of ministers on trying to ove 1120 m e a group of ministers on trying to overcome some of the racial divide by pastors coming together to better understand each other‘s worlds, each other‘s perspective. it is called debtor together, people make an effort. we bring divergent voices together to really get people to start listening to each other. —— better together. men hate each other because they fear each other, they fear each other because they do not

know each other. they do not communicate with each other because they are not connected to each other. we have to spend time getting it together and knowing each other. pa rt it together and knowing each other. part of what is going on in america is ignorance, and it is through the medium that you work for, the media, and we at impressionable as people and we at impressionable as people and so we hear stuff, whether it be in traditional media or even social media, we react. so we have to learn how to live together, as daddy said, as brothers or sisters. one big flashpoint at the moment between the white nationalists and black people was over the symbols of the era when slavery existed, so where do you stand on that, for example? statues of robert e lee, a confederate leader during the slave europe, do you think that such statue should

remain in place? look, i am a mediator. that is why am by nature. i believe we are in a season where we have two bring the voices together and find a win—win solution, i have personal beliefs, you know, i believe those things belong in monuments but i think the pathway forward is to create an opportunity to lessen the tension for those who may identify with those memorials. rightfully or you have said that racism must be dealt its far north blow. do you think we are any closer to sing that happen? i think at a good time. i

think we are purging in america. i think we are purging in america. i think that things that have been hidden under the surface are now coming to the surface. i think for too long we have let things be brushed under the rug and moved on. and now things are coming to a head, and you have more voices and more multicultural voices coming together, like never before. he one thing i wanted to say about black lives matter: this is the first time in the history of our nation that theissue in the history of our nation that the issue of light supremacy and light privilege has ever been addressed orfaced, like never before. —— white. people talk about white privilege and that it is a problem. that has never happened before. you have white people acknowledging that white supremacy is only that we have to do away with. so thank god for the consciousness that they have raised. this has been over the last three or

four years. i think for black lives matter, the young generation rose up and brought to our consciousness that there is a group of individuals in america that you still have refused to deal with in terms of value. when barack obama gives his farewell address as president, he said that race remains a potent and often divisive force in our society. do you think you could have done more? i think everybody could have done more. i would never say that he is the only one. all of us could have done more. we have not been persistent in dealing with the issue. we try to touch it and move onto next thing. this is the issue of our day that we are going to have two address. and if not, you know, it is good to get worse. writes and more division? possibly. yes. --

riots. when you state barack obama could have done more, what specifically could he have done more? he could have challenged leaders in different sectors to create atmospheres and environments to begin, you know, formulating an approach to addressing their different circles of influence, you know? i think everybody could have done that. but i think as the leader of the nation he could have done more. and what about the current president? he has had moments after moments to do it. and for whatever reason, we are afraid as a nation to do with racism — as a welcome to do with racism. if donald trump afraid to do with racism, do you think?|j think to do with racism, do you think?” think most leaders are afraid, including donald trump. i think most arejust afraid to including donald trump. i think most are just afraid to deal with it. i mean, it is, first of all, it is not there to be something that we will conquer overnight will stop it is a lifelong pursuit. as a child, the

youngest child of martin luther king, you were five when he was assassinated. you will born at a high point in his life, really, when he received the nobel prize, the peace prize, when he made his famous i have a dream speech in 1963. you carry the king name. you try to continue his work. do you see that legacy as a positive, already think it isa legacy as a positive, already think it is a burden, in some ways? no, i feel inspired by it. i feel a sense of responsibility. at one point, it was a burden. but now it is so much a part of me. a welcome part of me. you know, the only burden i feel is the burden that he felt, which is will we ever wake up to who we really are as humanity? to understand our value to each other.

that is the burden that they carry ona that is the burden that they carry on a daily basis. you said at one time you felt that it was a bit of a burden, but now you see it as something that is positive and enriching. could you explain a little bit more? is this year have had to grapple with? welcome a yes, i was called to the ministry at a young age. i was called at 17. i did not answer until i was about 25. and then in the early stages of accepting me calling, and are beginning to preach, i wanted to find the niece, i wanted to find my voice. i want to see where i was congruent, and not just voice. i want to see where i was congruent, and notjust be a jibbon could of my father and all mother. —— bernice. —— just could of my father and all mother. —— bernice. ——just be could of my father and all mother. —— bernice. —— just be a carbon copy of me. listening to his sermons

until i knew this is what they, this is what a satellite. —— my. then started to approach it. people would a lwa ys started to approach it. people would always compare me to him, i thought. and i wanted to be comfortable with me and understand what my mother told me as a child. me and my siblings. you don't have to be me, she said, you do not have to be your father, just be your best cell. how have you siblings do with it. i know your older sister, the oldest child, died ata your older sister, the oldest child, died at a young age, in 2007, only 51. you have two brothers, martin luther king iii, and dexter, and you seem to be the one that is continuing. i think my brother martin is doing it as well. but he is not preaching. but he is doing it, too. he does a lot of travelling and carrying messages. so i would not say that he is not carrying it

out. we carried out in different ways. baxter is a bit more reserved, and he doesn't do public speaking, he doesn't feel comfortable in that space. and so i think each one of us is doing it in different ways. —— bernice. what has the bowlers, because we have talked about it before, is because if a mother put pressure on us, it could have been hard. —— dexter. but she took the pressure. and that has up this process through the external pressure that we have in different seasons of our lives. redmond has been a defining feature of your life, hasn't it? you lost your sister you land, obviously. your father, your grandmother, at your father, your grandmother, at your father, your grandmother, at your father, your uncle found mysteriously dead in a simple. —— yolanda. father assassinated, yes. your mother died of cancer in 2006. how has that affected you? your mother died of cancer in 2006. how has that affected you ?m your mother died of cancer in 2006. how has that affected you? it has affected me a lot. a lot of loss and

separation. you know, ideal affected me a lot. a lot of loss and separation. you know, i deal with issues of abandonment, all the time. i have processed through anger, from time to time. i still deal with angen time to time. i still deal with anger. i had to discipline myself so that angered is not overtake me. but my feet... annie depressed moments, as well? yes, depressed moments. i miss my mother especially. —— any. and my sister as well. i was close to my mother. i have days where i am very sad, but what i take with me is the lesson is that each one of them put me in different ways. my father more vicariously than my mother, who was direct, and my sister, and that is with my faith, my strong faith.” know obviously you were only five we re know obviously you were only five were your father know obviously you were only five were yourfather died, know obviously you were only five were your father died, but if you we re were your father died, but if you were here and were to look around him at race relations today in the united states, what do you think his

opinion would be? i don't think he would have an opinion, per se. opinion would be? i don't think he would have an opinion, perse. i think he would repeat the things—1 of the things are said to you earlier, that we had to deal with theissue earlier, that we had to deal with the issue of justice, earlier, that we had to deal with the issue ofjustice, or we will continue to see the growing tension and turmoil in the streets. none of the stuff would surprise me father at all. —— things — one. he would be happy but is appointed. disappointed that more efforts had not been made to embrace some of the things we talk about, the radical revolution of values. do we begin to become a person centred society than anything centred society. that we deal with poverty, racism, and militarism. so i think it would be disappointed that in the 50 years that he has been gone that people did not take up been gone that people did not take up that mantle persistently as a

whole. and when i say people i do not mean individuals, i mean people of conscience did not work collectively together, persistently. the movement was a collection of people, of conscience. a coalition of conscience that moved under his leadership, persistently. that is what has been absent. people are doing it in pockets, but are not doing it in pockets, but are not doing it in a collaborative and consistent way. could that be up to you, to lead that? i don't know about that. only god knows that, and you know... as a teenager, was this your ambition? you know, my father was a reluctant leader. i'm a relu cta nt was a reluctant leader. i'm a reluctant leader. and he did not choose to lead the movement. you know? he was catapulted. he was elected by a group of people and destiny had him and he accepted. and

thatis destiny had him and he accepted. and that is how it occurred. so i don't pursue leadership. but is king, thank you very much for coming on hardtalk —— bernice king, thank you very much indeed for coming on hardtalk. thank you, i appreciate it. wednesday brought a real mix of weather across the country. thursday is looking completely different. it will be a chilly start. frosty start for some of us, but great weather. a lot of sunshine eventually in the afternoon. that will be right across the country. unsettled weather still in the north, with some snow. that is finally clearing

away and as we head through the course of the morning the remnants of the cloud across lincolnshire, east anglia, the midlands, but the skies already clearing in many areas. by early thursday morning, it will clear in northern england too, and temperatures will drop in the northern half. some rural spots in scotland could get down to —7 degrees. in the south, 3—6 celsius. that cloud will clear away from the southeast in the morning on thursday, then sun all round. slightly cooler on thursday. maybe 8—12 degrees celsius. that is because the morning will be chilly. that sun will have two work harder. the weather front is approaching. that will be present in western

areas across friday. quite a split in the weather towards the end of the week. many western areas will eventually turn very proudly, cloudy. particularly in plymouth and the western isles as well. look at that central and eastern area. the southerly wind will start to making still warmer. temperatures up to 15 in london, with some eastern areas getting up to 13, possibly, as well. friday into saturday, the warm air is still with us. certainly not for everybody. it will mostly hug the south—east and eastern areas of the country. but get to saturday, the chances are that it may turn warmer still. but notice that there is a bit of rain drifting out of the south, moving northwards. some will get rain on saturday, with the possibility of temperature is getting up to 17 degrees in east anglia. that is really going to feel like spring. the most of us on saturday, it will feel cooler, more like 12—14 degrees. on sunday, that blob of rain

from from the north. things should dry out. still decent temperatures, 1a in london, 13 expected in edinburgh and glasgow as well. that is it. have a good night. i'm sharanjit leyl in singapore. the headlines: exactly 50 years on, marking the murder of american civil rights leader martin luther king. a huge mistake, says facebook founder mark zuckerberg, admitting data from 87 million people may have been misused. i'm babita sharma in london. also in the programme: china unveils its retaliation in the trade dispute with president trump, but hints that talks are also on the table. 4,000 athletes from 71 teams get ready as the first day of the commonwealth games gets underway.