hello, it's nine o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. our top story today... another young man murdered on the streets of london last night — this time in hackney and two miles away from that, a man in his 50s died after reports of an assault. we'll bring you the latest, and we hope to hear from shadow home secretary and hackney mp dianne abbott. 2a hours before britain's sugar tax comes in, new research today suggests evidence from around the world shows such taxes do change unhealthy habits. when it gets so bad, and we are there right now, you need to change there right now, you need to change the rules of the game and that is now. will it be obesity or shopping bills which are most affected? are you going to change your habits asa are you going to change your habits as a result of the sugar tax? and the bbc admits breaking its own rules after staging a scene in a documentary seven years ago. this tree house high above the forest is not in fact where the korowai people in papua new guinea live. the structure was actually

commissioned for filming. we will bring you the story. hello. welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning. as we are each weekday. we welcome you getting in touch. 2a hours ahead of the sugar tax coming in, it is happening, it may be controversial in your household, will it change your habits? certain sugary drinks, not fruitjuices, they your habits? certain sugary drinks, not fruit juices, they will be your habits? certain sugary drinks, not fruitjuices, they will be more expensive, will you buy few of them? no more sugary drinks? do let me know. send me an e—mail, message us on facebook and twitter as well. our top story today... yet another night of violence in london — this time, two men have died in separate attacks in hackney.

the first saw a man, believed to be in his early 20s, die from stab wounds, despite the efforts of ambulance crews. a few hours earlier, a man in his 50s died after a fight outside a betting shop. the deaths take the number of suspected murders in the capital so far this year to more than 50. our correspondent, john mcmanus, is in hackney for us this morning. give us the latest. you can see the evidence of the police investigation behind me here in link street in hackney. last night, just before 8pm, a man in his early 20s approached officers, he had stab wounds, they administered first aid, but they were unable to save him, he died about half an hour later. earlier in the day, a man in his 50s was involved in an altercation outside of bookmakers, less than two miles away from here, police say,

and he died at the scene, and police say another man who left the scene who might have been involved, they are searching for him. in both cases police have not named the victims yet, they say they are trying to contact their next of kin to inform them. last night and yesterday's events follow murders earlier this week in london, on monday, amaan shakoor was shot in the face in waltha mstow, shakoor was shot in the face in walthamstow, he died. on the same day, the 17—year—old girl was gunned down in tottenham not too far away. a spate of murders and it brings the total number to 50 people who have been killed because of violent incidents in london since the start of the year, a wide variety of people, police say 37 of them were male, ten teenagers, turn were also people in their 405, many were 5topped, people in their 405, many were stopped, there were gun5 used as well, a wide variety of people who are victims of this apparent

crimewave —— ten were in their 405, many were stabbed. we will bring you more on this through the morning. julian worricker is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's new5. the creator of facebook, mark zuckerberg, says he takes personal responsibility for its failures to protect the data of users but insists he remains the right person to lead the social media giant. facebook says the number of its users whose information wa5 improperly shared by political data consultancy firm, cambridge analytica, may have been as high as 87 million. the bbc understands more than i million british users were affected. our north america technology reporter, dave lee, has more. in a conference call lasting almost an hour, mark zuckerberg admitted that he had been too idealistic in the past, putting too much trust in third—party companies that went on to abuse the system he created. but despite calls questioning his

ability to continue as the leader of the world's most powerful social network, mr zuckerberg in5isted he would not be stepping down. he said the company was putting in place stricter controls on what data can be accessed by third—party apps. next week, mr zuckerberg will head to washington to face congress, appearing in person for the first time to answer questions about now the firm handles the public‘s data. within the 87 million accounts now thought to have been shared with cambridge analytica, the bbc understands around i million were users in the uk. despite requests from british politicians, mr zuckerberg will not appear before parliament, instead sending a deputy. since the cambridge analytica scandal broke last month, there have been many calls for people to boycott facebook altogether. however, it doesn't seem like they have been

too effective. mr zuckerberg said he had seen no meaningful impact on his business. dave lee, bbc news, san francisco. a 78—year—old man is being questioned on suspicion of murder after an intruder was fatally wounded during a suspected burglary at his home in south—east london. the man, named locally as richard osborn—brooks, discovered two men in his kitchen. detectives say one was armed with a screwdriver and a struggle ensued. a 38—year—old man was stabbed. he was taken to hospital but later died. there are calls for fridges and freezers with plastic backing to be urgently removed from sale after an investigation by consumer watchdog which found they pose a fire risk. all plastic—backed fridges and freezers currently on the market pass existing safety standards, but testing found that some flame—retardant products could speed up the spread of a fire. we put these fridges into a real

fire situation, so putting a flame against the backing. and we found that within 30 seconds, the backing went up in flames, but also, it accelerated into a largerfire. and what that meant was that the backing was no longer protecting highly—flammable material behind it, which is what it's supposed to do. russia will use a meeting of the un security council later today to challenge the uk's claim that it was behind the nerve agent attack in salisbury. the russian government has denied being involved in the poisoning of the former spy, sergei skripal, and his daughter, yulia, last month. the meeting comes a day after russia was denied a request by the world chemical weapons watchdog for russian experts to be involved in a new investigation. caroline rigby reports. a month since the former spy and his daughter were found unconscious, slumped on a park bench in salisbury. as the police investigation continues, so too does the political row. the poisoning has lead to weeks of worsening relations between russia and the west,

even talk of a new cold war. the war of words, at least, increasingly frosty. we know that russia has been stockpiling amounts of this. investigating ways of delivering it. we know that russia has previously been willing to poison outside its own borders, including in the united kingdom. we know that it regards ex—agents as being candidates for assassination. this is a situation that is really poisoning our relations. and this is something we should jointly find an antidote to. the british are good at creating antidotes, aren't they? on wednesday, the world's chemical weapons watchdog rejected moscow's request for a joint investigation into the poisoning. russia has always denied any involvement in what it now suggests was a terrorist attack. it hopes to use a meeting of the united nations security council to challenge britain's version of events. but growing isolation internationally makes that a tough

ask, meaning little end in sight to the ever—growing diplomatic divide between russia and the west. caroline rigby, bbc news. north korean missiles could be able to reach the uk in months, according to mp5 who also said a strike seemed highly unlikely, describing kim jong—un, as ruthless but rational. the committee chairman, julian lewis, says north korea's nuclear capability is limited. so—called sin taxes on soft drinks, alcohol and tobacco are more beneficial for low income families, even though most of the tax revenues come from higher income households. a global study, published in the lancet medicaljournal, found that the levy influenced

consumer behaviour and could help to reduce cancer and type 2 diabetes. the findings come ahead of a sugar tax on soft drinks which comes into force in the uk on friday. up to a thousand sure start centres, which provide support for families with young children in england, may have closed in the past eight years, double the government's estimate. research by the sutton trust, which campaigns to improve social mobility, says cuts to local authority budgets have led to the closures. the department for education says it is investing more in childcare support than any other government. we've found that there's been a 30% cut, basically, in the number of early years centres across the country. we also found that, in particular areas, there's been bigger cuts than elsewhere. so there's a bit of a lottery, actually. if you have a young child, where you live determines whether there is a good centre near you. so there is a lottery now that exists in this country. the bollywood star salman khan has been found guilty of an historic poaching offence dating back 20 years. khan killed two blackbuck antelope, a protected and rare species,

while shooting a film in 1998. four other actors who starred alongside him were also charged but have now been acquitted. khan could now face between one and six years injail. featuring a tribe from papua new guinea was not accurate. the episode first aired in 2011 and showed the korowai people moving into a tree house, as if it was a real home. however, during recent filming for a different programme, the tribe said the houses were commissioned for filming. the bbc admitted breaching editorial standards and has since revised its guidelines. thousands of people have gathered in memphis to commemorate 50 years since the death of the civil rights leader, martin luther king. bells tolled 39 times, once for each year of dr king's life, to mark the moment he was shot by a white supremacist. the crowd observed a minute's silence at the motel where the murder took place, as nada tawfik reports.

what better way to honour the apostle of nonviolence than with a massive march for equality? joined in purpose and united in action, they were led forward by the son who bears dr king's name. and the celebration of his life continued right onto the site where he spent his final moments. the large crowd rejoiced, as artists performed with soul. but they also reflected on the civil rights hero's unrealised dream. he lives, he lives! reverend jesse jackson returned to the spot where he witnessed the assassination. and every time the scab comes off, the sore's still raw. the blood still oozes. this is the site of the crucifixion.

but not far from here is the resurrection, the new hope and the new possibilities. bell tolls at 6.01, king was silenced by a sniper. bells rang 39 times to honour the number of years he lived. picking up dr king's unfinished business was the theme of this commemoration, with the central question, where do we go from here? many believe dr king provided that answer many years ago. nada tawfik, bbc news, memphis. police patrolling off the coast of south australia have had a close encounter with a great white shark. the great white followed them as they carried out checks on boats in the area. there was no cause for alarm, however, as after the officers affectionately named it noah,

it lost interest a few minutes later and swam away. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 9.30am. a 78—year—old man arrested yesterday over the fatal stabbing of an intruder in a burglary at his home has been bailed, scotland yard say. richard osborne brooks, named locally, has been bailed until may pending further inquiries, scotland ya rd have pending further inquiries, scotland yard have just pending further inquiries, scotland yard havejust said. the pending further inquiries, scotland yard have just said. the 70 age pending further inquiries, scotland yard havejust said. the 70 age —— the 78—year—old arrested yesterday has been released on bail until may. thank you for your messages on both the violence in london and the sugar tax. on facebook, sean says, london violence, it is clear some are choosing a culture of crime, supported and romanticised by music

and social media, a tough approach needs to be taken. this text says, thinking of the gun, knife, going murders, part of the problem is exacerbated by the regional police force structure and poor communication between forces —— gang murders. we will talk about the sugar tax coming in because there is new research out today from the la ncet new research out today from the lancet suggesting such taxes, so—called sin taxes, to calljew have an effect on changing people's unhealthy habits. —— do have an effect. they text as it would bring significant benefit to consumers. do you think it will contribute to you changing your drinking habits? fewer sugary drinks in your household from tomorrow? let me know. let's get some sport now and we can

join mike bushell on the gold coast. mike, it's the opening day of competition at the commonwealth games, and there's been somewhat of a shock in the triathlon? real surprise, sunset now, we have the evening bands here, in the festival squares, 32 floors below me, but on the streets, on the gold coast, at lunchtime our time today, huge shock in the men's triathlon, all the build—up was about the brownlee brothers, double olympic champion alistair, carrying the flag for england, at the opening ceremony last night and everybody assumed he would get some sort of medal, along with robbery his brother, jonny brownlee, but neither of them did, rather strange race that took place as the weather kept changing and eventually in torrential rain, alistair brownlee started to swim very well, but they said he had gone out to quickly, is he building up too much of a gap, aware of a problem on the bike ‘5? he has had

an injury recently and so it proved, fell behind on the bikes and so do jonny. it was the south african, henry sherman, took the gold. 22, is this a new era for the brownlee brothers? good news came out for scotland, mark austin from stirling, taking the bronze medal. surprise for him, really nice surprise. scotla nd for him, really nice surprise. scotland on the medals board. congratulations. in the women's race, silver medalfor the congratulations. in the women's race, silver medal for the women for england forjessica liam mont, some consolation for the brownlee brothers and for yorkshire, because she is also from leeds, so she came in behind flora duffy, who became the first female commonwealth champion. —— jessica learmonth. the first female commonwealth champion. ——jessica learmonth. and jessica learmonth got england's first medal at the commonwealth games. and what have been the other highlights so far? or would you rather talk about the champions league? or would you rather talk about the

champions league ?|j or would you rather talk about the champions league? i got up, turned on the networks, waiting for news of manchester city, i had seen a bit on twitter but i wanted to see the goals, yes, it made the main sports bulletins here in australia, initially below the commonwealth games and the rugby, behind melbourne getting thrashed in the asian prevalence of the champions league but then, they brought us the news that in the european champions league, liverpool had a staggering three all advantage after the first late at anfield against manchester city. mohamed salah, 38 goal of the season, they cut out of the pictures before the second one went in! we got to see one of them. —— liverpool have a staggering three goal advantage. huge performance, liverpool fans in absolute ecstasy, i'm sure the party is still continuing. we had trouble establishing the line, did you run up establishing the line, did you run up 32 floors to make sure you were on top of a building so we could have a satellite signal? laughter i got the lift...! but that is

absolutely right. bbc breakfast, we had a problem, try to fix it on the left, —— try to fix it on the beach, the sound down there was incredible, but then we realised the best guess was to get up to the balcony, safely crossing the road as we raced across the streets, then using the lift, just in time, sorry if i looked a bit dishevelled. very happy to have you on the programme. thank you very much. tomorrow the sugar tax comes into force in britain. it will make sugary soft drinks more expensive, which the government says will help tackle childhood obesity. meanwhile new research today published in the healthjournal the lancet, looking at data from 13 countries, has found that wealthier people spend more on alcohol, soft drinks and snacks, compared to families on lower incomes so increasing taxes on unhealthy food and drink will affect more higher incomes households

than lower—income households. the impending arrival of the sugar tax has already had an impact in the uk, with some manufacturers changing the recipes for their drinks. lucozade and ribena have cut the amount of sugar in their drinks. so how will this effect your weekly shop? tomorrow morning, shoppers will start to pay more for most sugary drinks in the uk. any can or bottle containing more than five grams of sugarin containing more than five grams of sugar in every hundred millilitres of liquid will be hit by the new sugar tax, drinks containing of liquid will be hit by the new sugartax, drinks containing more than eight grams will be charged at the highest rate. at the checkout, this means another 8p on a can of full fat cola, with seven teaspoons of sugar, and 25p on a standard bottle of fizzy drink. yes, might help stop parents buying their

children fizzy drinks. the problem with any tax, people find ways around it. pubs, clubs and restau ra nts around it. pubs, clubs and restaurants will charge extra as well, wetherspoon ‘5 chairman tim martin said prices on soft drinks in pubs would go up by about 10p. part of the idea here is to get manufacturers to change the ingredients in their drinks, the treasury says half of all companies have switched formulas to push their products below the tax threshold. irn—bru has already switched its recipe, cutting the sugar in a can from six and a half teaspoons down to four teaspoons, the company says most people cannot tell the difference but some fans are not impressed. just don't do it, don't do it, you are not leaving us any option to get the original stuff, it is part of our culture. it is a scottish national treasure. is part of our culture. it is a scottish nationaltreasure. most of the big supermarkets have already changed the formulas of many of

their own branded products, using more artificial sweeteners to escape 01’ more artificial sweeteners to escape or minimise the tax. the two best—known fizzy drinks, pepsi and coca—cola, are staying the same, but coca—cola, are staying the same, but coca—cola is shrinking the size of its bestselling bottle so the price will go up by only 20p, though you will go up by only 20p, though you will get less in your shopping basket. if you start adding cost through tax, what you get is hit the lowest income consumers harder and that does not seem to be fair sensible to me. how much difference all of this will make to our behaviour is much less clear, the drinks industry says there is no evidence that a sugar tax really works, and that sales of high sugar drinks were falling sharply anyway. the government say it is important pa rt the government say it is important part of a wider strategy to tackle obesity. you need to change the rules when it is as bad as it is now, and that is now. it will not be

too long before we see a sugar tax not just too long before we see a sugar tax notjust on drinks but on other parts of the weekly shop, according to experts. let's talk to carol williams, a lecturer in public health nutrition at the university of brighton, lucinda sloane and alice measom who have both given up sugar, and brook whelan from the campaign group people against sugar tax. why does the government say that drinks and rebuke to obesity? we have the evidence, the whole thing was triggered by a big review into carbohydrates and diet and health. —— that drinks contribute to obesity. the recommendation from the investigation said soft drinks need to be looked at, that was the first

timea to be looked at, that was the first time a single food had been singled out. we need to cut in half the amount of sugar that is recommended to eat. and that is in the interests of health. sure, in terms of the sugar tax, on soft drinks, what kind of impactare sugar tax, on soft drinks, what kind of impact are you expecting it to have given that the cost of chocolate and other unhealthy snacks are not going up? i think that sugary sweet beverages have been singled out because they are the biggest contributor of sugar in children who are 11 to 18, and they are the ones who have, children and young people consumed three times more sugar than the recommended compare to adults, you consume twice as much, and also, the agenda of preventing childhood obesity is important. bearing in mind what carol has said, why are you against it? something that has often been overlooked, diets, no sugar drinks, there has been for many years, diet

coke came onto the market in 1982 or something, it is as though there are fio something, it is as though there are no diet drinks on the market, but there are. the sugar tax is almost pointless, it is fixing a problem which has already been fixed.“ pointless, it is fixing a problem which has already been fixed. if i can respond, i think the levels of sugarin can respond, i think the levels of sugar in the drinks that we did have, and i am saying we did have, because with the sugar tax, what has been exceptional about the sugar tax in britain, we have had a two—year lead—in time and in that time, the landscape of the drinks on offer has changed at do, manufacturers have engaged in the process, reformulating the drink. now there isa reformulating the drink. now there is a very good range of drinks lover in sugar, the reason for the sugar tax is to draw attention to the fact that these drinks are so i —— these drinks are so high in sugar. reformulation of soft drinks in the la st reformulation of soft drinks in the last couple of years has gone beyond expectations, the revenue forecast

for this year for the sugar tax has dropped the more than half. and last year, the report came out saying that 85% of soft drinks now on sale in tesco will fall below the sugar tax threshold. that to my mind has decimated soft drinks in terms of consumer choice, we have seen... know it has not! thousands of people on twitter say they do not like the taste of artificial sweeteners, they prefer the taste of natural sugar, people who have drunk ribena for 30, 40 years. you know what the levels of childhood obesity are... large percentages of children at primary school turn up at secondary school overweight. you say it is a problem that has been fixed, it has not. overweight. you say it is a problem that has been fixed, it has notm is more complicated than sugary drinks tax, obesity, there is more than one type of obesity, and, you... which is the obesity that has been fixed? not in terms of fixing

it but in terms of offering a solution, the soft drinks companies have provided drinks for many years, there is the choice, and it is down to the consumer. we have specific evidence that shows that when young people consume sugary sweet beverages they are poor at compensating, and so in terms of eating a bit less, so all the calories and sugar they are getting from the sugary sweet and beverages, thatis from the sugary sweet and beverages, that is leading to the overconsumption. the other thing with sugary sweet and beverages is they are giving you know other nutrition, you are not getting vitamins, minerals, anything positive... i have been asking the audience if they will change their habits as a result of the sugar tax coming in, we want to hearfrom you, i will no longer buy a can or bottle of coca—cola says david, but why should i be penalised, i am of coca—cola says david, but why should i be penalised, iam not overweight nor addicted to sugar. lucinda, where you addicted to

sugar, why did you give it up?” would not say i was addicted but i had an unhealthy relationship with sugar, i do not drink sugary drinks and never have done, for me it was more about cakes and biscuits, chocolate. but the reason why i gave up chocolate. but the reason why i gave up sugar chocolate. but the reason why i gave up sugar was that unfortunately i am an adult acne sufferer, and for me, it was a way in which to correct my skin, i had read an awful lot of articles about sugar being a trigger articles about sugar being a trigger a and that is my reason for giving it up, and from then, i ranked my own article on howl it up, and from then, i ranked my own article on how i found the experience of giving up sugar. —— wrote my own article. in lent last year, you cut sugarfrom wrote my own article. in lent last year, you cut sugar from your wrote my own article. in lent last year, you cut sugarfrom your diet. it was very hard, you suffer from withdrawal symptoms, i had issues withdrawal symptoms, i had issues with my skin, and i often suffered from bad pmt, and i noticed that when i cut sugar out of my diet, those things went away. i was not

struggling with pmt, my skin cleared up, andi struggling with pmt, my skin cleared up, and i still do have occasional refined sugar in my diet but i learned to replace those things with honey, and maple syrup, which the body can process a lot better. i definitely feel a lot better for that. the more direct about the effect of refined sugar, on the body, and how it affects mood, it frightens me, and just doing something very simple as cutting sugar out, i say simple, it was not simple, but it is a real struggle because sugar is not everything, you have to check every single ingredient. what frightened you specifically? the more i read about refined sugar the more i realised it exacerbated health conditions, and the impact that it had on the way that the body processed food just really surprised me. and the facts

that just by really surprised me. and the facts thatjust by cutting out sugar, things i had struggled with four yea rs things i had struggled with four years dramatically improved, it made me think, well... so straightforward, what else is this doing to my body? some of the research out today in the health journal the lancet, suggests having looked at data from 13 countries, they found people on higher incomes actually spend more and consume more of the unhealthy stuff, soft drinks, snacks, alcohol, and so on, compared to families on low incomes. they say increasing taxes on unhealthy food and drink would affect more higher income families than lower income, so income families than lower income, so the taxes would come from the wealthier households, it is one of the argument is the food and drink federation used against the sugar tax, that it will disproportionately hit those on lowest incomes hardest, how do you respond to this research? it will affect poorer people more.

that is not what the lancet is saying. sugar taxes have not reduced obesity. there are a referred to the mexico soda tax and i saw figures showing consumption went up, not down. 2014, the tax came in, it went up down. 2014, the tax came in, it went up the following year because of wage increases, people had more money to spend. how do you respond to that? what has happened in britain is quite difficult to mexico, we have had this lead—in time, reformulation, but that was not how it operated in mexico. yet your argument is the tax regressive, does it hurt the poll people the most? —— the poor people. the people it will hurt the most of those who drink the most, and they will pay

the price of having the "asst—— 7, 7—— the price of having the most dental weight e sugar the price of having the most dental weight -?t.§ sugar tax has the price of having the most dental weigh increased 2 sugar tax has the price of having the most dental weigh increased people's tax has massively increased people's awareness, there was a recent survey done awareness, there was a recent survey done looking at public attitudes to food and concern about sugar was top of the agenda and that is something that was not there before and it needs to be there because we are eating twice as much as we need and it is quite interesting, if i was having a meal and i asked for a cup of tea and i said, is it all right ifi of tea and i said, is it all right if i had nine sugars in that? eye brows if i had nine sugars in that? eyebrows would be raised. if i have a full sugar fizzy drink with my pizza, that is on the table. the normalisation of consumption of sugarin normalisation of consumption of sugar in fizzy drinks needs to be challenged and the sugar tax and the way we have reduced it in britain has been a great step for pod. you gaveit has been a great step for pod. you gave it up 83 days. are you back on it? -- gave it up 83 days. are you back on it? —— great step forward. gave it up 83 days. are you back on it? —— great step forwardlj gave it up 83 days. are you back on it? -- great step forward. i had a break where i ate sugar for a week andi break where i ate sugar for a week

and i got to my 33rd birthday and i thought i would have a blow out and i have actually decided that i am no longer going to eat sugar moving forward , longer going to eat sugar moving forward, i had my break, but for me, i slightly disagree with the overarching health benefits of giving up sugar entirely because in my experience, it didn't clear up my skin, ididn't my experience, it didn't clear up my skin, i didn't sleep better, i didn't get this low people say of being clean eating... but for me, the most notable thing that happened was the weight loss. for me, the weight fell off. when you talk about health benefits, if you are... if your weight is being punished because you have given up sugar, there are health benefits, less risk of cancer, diabetes, heart disease. absolutely, i complete the champion it, if you're serious about losing weight and improving your lifestyle,

giving up sugar is a great way to start because also it stayed off as well as coming off. scott says, i am one of the people who will enjoy a glass of coca—cola a few times a year and companies changing their formulas to escape the new sugar tax isa formulas to escape the new sugar tax is a worry for me. this tweet from paul, any tax only has the possible at your reducing sales to the poorest people. a few pence or pounds will not be noticed by wealthy people which makes it a tax on the poor. jerome says, surely it should be a proportion of sugar in a product rather than absolute amounts? jack says it means companies will use more artificial sweeteners which is pure poison. another says, i do not know what the outcome will be, but i think promoting the consumption of milk in restau ra nts a nd cafes promoting the consumption of milk in restaurants and cafes could be one helpful way to tackle the issue. thank you for coming on the

programme. if you think it will probably change your habits or not when the sugar tax comes in tomorrow in britain, let me know. you can send us an e—mail, message us on twitter or facebook or whatsapp. coming up... we'll have the latest on the violence in london. as the numbers of suspected murders in the capital climbs above 50, we ask if it is time for drastic action to stop the violence. and we'll be live in glasgow for the sentencing of an ex—nhs consultant who had built up a collection of guns and had a so—called hit list of former colleagues time for the latest news. here is julian. good morning. the bbc news headlines this morning. scotland yard is investigating the deaths of two men in separate attacks within hours of each other in north—east london. a man died after a fight and another was stabbed in hackney last night.

the number of murders in the capital this year now stands at more than 50. the creator of facebook, mark zuckerberg, says he takes personal responsibility for its failures to protect the data of users and to remove provocative content but insists he is still the man to lead the social media giant. facebook says the number of users whose information was improperly shared by political data consultancy firm, cambridge analytica, may have been as high as 87 million. the bbc understands more than 1 million british users were affected. a 78—year—old man has been released on bail after an intruder was fatally wounded during a suspected burglary at his home in south—east london. the man, named locally as richard osborn—brooks, discovered two men in his kitchen. he was arrested on suspicion of murder. detectives say one was armed with a screwdriver and a struggle ensued. a 38—year—old man was stabbed, taken

to hospital but later died. police are still trying to find the other man. russia's foreign minister has said that britain can't keep ignoring legitimate questions over the poisoning of ex—spy sergei skripal. the russian government has denied being involved in the poisoning of the former spy and his daughter, yulia, last month and sergei lavrov called the allegations fairy tales. it will use a meeting of the un security council later today to challenge the uk's claim that it was behind the attack in salisbury. there are calls for fridges and freezers with plastic backing to be urgently removed from sale which found they pose a fire risk. all plastic—backed fridges and freezers, currently on the market, pass existing safety standards but testing found that some flame—retardant products could speed up the spread of a fire. up to a thousand sure start centres, which provide support for families with young children in england, may have closed in the past eight years,

double the government's estimate. research by the sutton trust, which campaigns to improve social mobility, says cuts to local authority budgets have led to the closures. the department for education says it is investing more in childcare support than any other government. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. thank you. sport now. will perry is in salford. the sports headlines, a couple of medals for the home nations at the commonwealth games, both in the triathlon, silver and bronze. the brownlee brothers missed out on the podium earlier this morning. perfect night for liverpool as they thrashed man city 3—0 in the quarterfinal. alex oxlade—chamberlain with the goal of the game after mo salah's opener. sadio mane got liverpool's third. david warner will not appeal

the —— appeal the ban. steve smith and cameron bancroft have already accepted their punishments. in just over three hours, golf‘s first major of the season gets under way, jack nicklaus and gary player tee of the masters at 1240 pm. rory mcilroy begins his round at 6:30pm. more at 10:30am. good morning. welcome to the programme. we have been reporting the truly appalling murder rate in london this year — in just 123 days, 50 people have been killed — raising serious concerns about how to tackle violent crime on the city's streets. ten of those killed were teenagers and the majority of victims were male. the authorities say, we're not pretending there isn't a problem in london but we will get on top of it. they are deeply concerned about the surge in gang violence in particular. but what can they do? two of the most recent

deaths were in hackney in north east london. diane abbott is mp for the area and also the shadow home secretary. she told our reporter that some young people think the way to settle a dispute is with a knife. it has been quite horrific, this spate of knife and gun crime. all over london. there must be mothers waking up and thinking they can say goodbye to their sons this morning, but will they see them later on in the day? there are a whole series of things that need to happen. first and foremost, we need more police officers on the street. in hackney, we have lost one in four police officers, since 2010, it is impossible to deal with gang crime u nless impossible to deal with gang crime unless you have the right level of neighbourhood policing. but law enforcement cannot solve things on their own, you need to work with schools, mental health services, social workers. it schools, mental health services, socialworkers. it appears schools, mental health services,

social workers. it appears from what has been happening from the wide variety of victims, some teenagers, people in their 405, some of this is maybe our poetry, people carrying knives and getting into a fight, but some is also gang related as well. some is gang related, but a lot of it is just people having disputes and trying to settle it with knives and trying to settle it with knives and it is extraordinary that quite young people think the way to settle a dispute with another young person is to knife them and some of it, as i say, is people in the wrong place, at the wrong time. and that is tragic. it is quite frightening now, a boy stood outside a shopping centre a boy stood outside a shopping ce ntre gets a boy stood outside a shopping centre gets shot in the face, someone centre gets shot in the face, someone in tottenham, a drive—by shooting, young people just someone in tottenham, a drive—by shooting, young peoplejust going about their lives, do you think there is an issue with communities needing to get —— with agencies needing to get —— with agencies needing to get involved when people

are younger? with some of these young people, by the age of 11, it is too late. we do have to have schools and social work and youth projects engaging with these very young people before it becomes too late to save them. there has been some concern about the role of social media and some of these incidents, do you think companies like youtube should be cracking down on videos which may be glorifying violence? social media is a symptom, it is not a cause. the underlying issues are social, educational, it even economic because some of the young men out on the street in gangs, it is partly because they do not seem to be opportunities for them in wider society, there are a lot of things we need to crack down on in social media, but it is a symptom of the rising tide of violence, not the cause. let's talk with jedi and raspect are from the outreach group, g.a.n.g, or guiding a new generation, and work with young people

in hackney, annmarie lewis who works with gang members in prisons, and patrick green from the ben kinsella trust which campaigns to try and prevent knife crime. welcome, all of you. simple question to begin with, what is going on? personally i feel like the kids are disempowered, they are scared. personally i feel like the kids are disempowered, they are scaredm what? of each other, because there has been a lot of sensationalism, reported in the news, about postcode wars, knife crime, these kids are scared and they believe they have two arm themselves from each other. i feel like maybe the style of the reporting has helped to compound the symptoms. we are on a self—destruct mode. right about now, people need something to believe in, i suggest

they need to believe in themselves. that is not happening in our communities at the moment. no one is going to disagree with people believing in themselves, that is not enough to stop people sticking knives into each other, is it, respect? obviously, with what we are doing, in gang, that is a big part of the solution, it is about the community, people coming from the background, i heard diane abbott say that stop and search... stop and search... it is an internal problem we are search... it is an internal problem we are dealing with, i heard a police officer on lbc saying stop and search would not sorted out, it is true. we have to deal with the mindset, not caring a knife but the mindset. if you deal with the mindset, then the knife is no longer a problem. you have been in hackney, going round to people, trying to

change mindsets, what are you saying? that is where the community, thatis saying? that is where the community, that is where we need the support from the people, the community, in order to... from the people, the community, in orderto... i from the people, the community, in order to... i have from the people, the community, in orderto... i have come back from the people, the community, in order to... i have come back from hackney, i have literally had a couple of hours sleep, before that we we re couple of hours sleep, before that we were in north london, i haven't slept, running up and down. we cannot do it on our own. more people like us need to link up and people who want to support that movement, whether it is professionals, we need to, we can do this on a larger scale, and we can potentially outreach, take these youth out of these situations, and do actual project, to give them that self hope that my colleague is talking about. tell us what you think is going on? i think that we have a holistically, we i think that we have a holistically, we have a community issue, like the young men have been saying, there

needs to be more resources into outrage but also similar to what diane abbott said, if we don't start ata diane abbott said, if we don't start at a much younger age, by the time it gets to the stage of gang wars, by the time it gets to the stage of prison issues, it is almost too late, we have young people as young as seven late, we have young people as young as seven and eight holding knives to each other. if we don't have a collaborative and political approach, working on a grassroots level, then this problem will not get solved. akron white your view?|j will agree with everything that has been said, the importance of working with young people at a very early age, working with 3000 schoolchildren every year, and the majority of those young people are carrying good values and good behaviours, but even so, we picked up behaviours, but even so, we picked upa behaviours, but even so, we picked up a small number of young people who, influenced by other peers or older brothers and sisters think, maybe a knife will protect me, and

developing a mentality like that. we need to start earlier, the challenge with knife crime and youth violence is it is notjust one thing that is happening it is a series of things going on. and we have we have people who are fearful, terrified about where they live. they carry knives to protect themselves. we have the issue of peer pressure, young people feel that if all their friends are carrying knives, they must do the same. and then we have a status element as well. if you want to tackle those, you have to start with prevention, break some of the myths around knife crime, you have to do what these charities are doing, and intervene with young people. show them. young people are, they need credibility, they need people who will stand up for them, or they can believe in, have lived the life and

make better choices, and they respond really well to that. the work these guys are doing, the work ann—marie is doing, that can be really powerful, we need to do an awful lot more of that. this sector has really suffered in terms of funding in the last four or five yea rs, funding in the last four or five years, it has been really hard to do the work we do. we need more investment, more work in schools. that is the bedrock of how we can turn this around. the young lady was speaking about maybe interacting with law enforcement, with the children, i think this is one of the biggest issues that we have, is that the relationship with the community and law enforcement is like one of and law enforcement is like one of an abusive relationship, what we keep asking the community... not every community, not every household. the communities where these things are being affected, where this is happening with the children, it is like a complete subculture to what mainstream

britain may be used to living in. describe it. we are dealing with a community where there is no trust with the police force, we don't have that trust, asking us to deal with the police is not going to work, it has to be done from within the community. let me bring ann-marie backin community. let me bring ann-marie back in on that, because we were talking to the point you made earlier. nothing can be done in isolation. enforcement alone is not going to work, but neither isjust working in a community—based, it has to be collaborative, because who do we to be collaborative, because who do we call when the situations get out of hand, we turn to the police, we have to change the culture that has this them and us type of scenario. i have worked in this field for 23 years, i have seen this, i have cut people down from hanging in the prison service with my own hands, i have stopped and mediated people being shot in the street, there is a them and 's attitude and it must

change. —— there is a them and us attitude. we have to be effective with the gangs you are talking with, the minute that you collaborate with the minute that you collaborate with the police force, you are not going to be effective, the minute you collaborate with the police, you will not be effective, you will not be trusted, the last time i was on your show it was because of edson, went children are killed by police, went children are killed by police, we ride out and shut down the streets. we wrote out and we shut down the streets. we are not being biased, we are not being one—sided, it is not just biased, we are not being one—sided, it is notjust police brutality and community violence, but in order for us to be effective, and that is why the gang is being so effective in the gang is being so effective in the streets right now, because we come from the same place where we understand that relationship. other community organisations which reach out, they are not so effective with

the real ha rd—core out, they are not so effective with the real hard—core youth because of those affiliations. people just tuning in, when you say gang, you are talking about your organisation. have you had any success with guiding a new generation? immense success , guiding a new generation? immense success, yes, we have people that come from different places, in conflict, who should be fighting right now, and they are coming together to change the community, change it for the youth, as much as they may have lived the life, they do not want to see the same for their sons and their little brothers and that is where we are moving. can ijust say, it is not as creating the narrative of them and us, it is simply the reality that these children are living in, they don't wa ke children are living in, they don't wake up and teach themselves, separatism in their mind state, what they see is how the justice system and how they are treated in their society, it is funny that most of these people are born and raised in britain and england and if you ask

them whether they felt british, they would say, no, there is a disconnect between them and the wider society. and this is a big issue. what would they say they were if they did not say british? they were probably refer back to their cultural heritage. there is a disconnect. from your work, with the benton seller trust, why don't you remind people about ben kinsella because some younger viewers may not know what happened to them. —— ben kinsella trust. ten years ago, 16—year—old went to celebrate his gcses, went to a club with his friends. there was a fight in the club, was not involved, later, returning home with friends, the three antagonists from the fight came looking for revenge, they picked randomly on ben kinsella and stabbed him 11 times in five seconds and he died shortly afterwards. our trust was set up to educate young people away from knife crime, and

help them make more positive choices. have you had some success? we see a big difference in young people's attitudes at the end of the workshops that they come to us with, we see a workshops that they come to us with, we see a significant reassessment of whether a knife will protect you, a numberof whether a knife will protect you, a number of successful people who have admitted to carrying knives saying, having seen some of the work we do, and we work very emotionally, we connect here, it is about here, not here, you can tell somebody not to do something but if they can see the consequences. . . young do something but if they can see the consequences... young people get it and generally make good decisions. we have a good success rate in changing the minds of people carrying knives. you will have heard what they have said, you cannot collaborate, because then it will be them, rather than us. i can

understand where he is coming from, but we have been doing this for many years, and we collaborate with all, one of the things i work with, particular demographic, it is harder to in gauge them, and i'm not making this about working within, we need to work with a range of organisations including the police because that is the only way we are going to tackle prevention, the only way we will deal with it at a strategic level, we need resources and evidence —based work, we need a holistic approach. our organisation has worked directly with gang members, directly with victims of crime, and people who have been murdered, mothers, families, for years, part of the problem is this disconnect. i'm saying, that is one solution, we have to address, massive disparity between the police, the community, the distrust, the criminaljustice police, the community, the distrust, the criminal justice system police, the community, the distrust, the criminaljustice system as a whole, we know that individuals coming from these deprived

backgrounds, they are the most vulnerable in society, and the level of injustice is absolutely nonexistent. it has to be addressed. you cannot address it with a one size fits all approach. is there anything that you could say now, that would appeal to anybody who is carrying a knife or a gun and he feels that might be the right way to settle a dispute, to put their weapon down? get in contact with gang, speak with elders in your community, that are familiar with this kind of thing, build bridges between the generations, from the older to the younger. there is a lot of separation. if we can build bridges between the generations, then there is always going to be first—hand then there is always going to be first— hand advice then there is always going to be first—hand advice and support which i think most of these young people need. briefly. young people need to know that they are valued, they need to know that we need them, and they need to know that we are always

going to do what is latest news and sport and weather in a moment. laws and powers on how to deal with unauthorised caravan sites are being reviewed by the government. people are today being asked for their views on how to police illegal sites, the powers available to local authorities, court processes, and also

the provision of legal sites for travellers to call home. although the number of traveller caravans on authorised sites has increased since 2010, latest figures show around 16% of all caravans, that's 3,700, are on unauthorised sites. let's speak now to shay clipson who is chair of the national alliance of gypsy traveller and roma women, and to len gridley, who lives next to dale farm in essex which was once home to europe's largest traveller site, which had an estimated 400 people living there illegally. you are romany, what does it mean to be romany? currently it means to be co nsta ntly be romany? currently it means to be constantly harassed by the government, we have a government that in its wisdom decided that gypsies and travellers should have to prove their ethnicity for planning purposes, which has pushed people out onto the road, where there are no stopping places for them, so it causes them to be demonised. and criminalised in some

respects. i heard the minister this morning, dominic raab, on breakfast time, speaking of illegal encampment. they are not illegal as such, they are unlawful, when language like illegal issues, it gives the impression to the public that the gypsy and traveller people are committing a criminal offence, which they are not. would you say we need more authorised sites so nobody is 55:3 unlawful? need more authorised sites so nobody is is: ii: there icnlawful: ~ ,