tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News April 10, 2018 9:00am-11:02am BST
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with exposure to chlorine gas, violated its obligations high concentration chlorine gas. under the chemical weapons convention. assad choked out the of chlorine gas. with pure chlorine gas lives of helpless men, exposure. women and children. it was a slow and brutal death for i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the so many. to nerve gas in low concentration. programme. our top story today... to nerve gas in low concentration. should in salisbury, has left hospital. the have fled in the last four weeks, just in from the un refugee agency. uk humanitarian adviser for save take the children. to a secret we also have a member of the islamic relief syria team. military he is going under the alias ahmed and secure location. action mahmoud. in zones, including syria. syria? we will bring you the story. also on the programme... chemical weapons attack in the syrian city of douma. unverified footage, what did you think? think? attack made near damascus and it will be met and it will be met. the.
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with chemical —— and it will be met forcefully. weapons. really keen to hear your thoughts this morning. what kind of action would you like to see? to see? an abortion clinic in west london will be banned. we've been talking to people who've been affected by the protests. place around what we are going to do in terms of the use of force. in terms of the use of told it had a heart beat and i was killing something with a heartbeat. killing something with a heartbeat. force. have failed to agree on the next steps —— seen the same images. have failed to agree on the next steps -- seen saying we should fire up the tanks are anything like that. the same images. are anything like that. warfare has completely changed. steps -- seen the same images. completely changed. abortion facilities to one day regret it. on your way to an abortion clinic, do let us know your own experience. hello, and to see whether britain or france would back him. would back behaviour continue unabated without getting involved what's ——. welcome accept. him. so then to what have you seen in the country, ahmed mahmoud? what? the in the country, ahmed mahmoud? programme. we're live until iiam. stockpiles of these things, the airfields where they came from. airfields where they came from. but it is not all about violence. and developing stories. it is not all about violence. weapons has been ongoing for the last seven years. last seven years.
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diagnosed with adhd. programme on how warfare is changing. changing. and when some images on social media or reaching the main media streams. or reaching the main media streams. and share your hundreds of thousands children every experience. day. day. takes notice when there has been a suspected chemical weapons attack? suspected chemical weapons attack? actually, it when we have a conversation at is notjust... a little britain where we don't get involved. involved. about 10:15am. 10:15am. that the very least we need to start having that conversation. having that whatsapp and the usual —— you can e—mail me. our top story today... conversation. spy, sergei skripal, has been discharged missiles against syrian bases and equipment. from hospital. ms skripal and her father were poisoned by a nerve agent in march. equipment. weapons again against his in hospital in salisbury. own people. people. taken to a safe location. from the us as to how they will do this. this. we will bring you more on that.
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have a grown—up conversation about what modern warfare is about. what modern warfare is about. given by the hospital at about 9:15am, 9:30am. 9:15am, 9:30am. we will bring you that as soon as it begins. this process, if that is what we believe. believe. security council. most of the children, they died in the hands of their parents. syrian city of douma. the hands of their parents. behaviour go on a unabated, then that is a different matter. that is a different matter. against its ally would have grave repercussions. but i don't feel that we are. don't feel that we are. i think clearly it is very difficult. clearly it is very difficult. our north america correspondent, david willis, reports. targeted —— hospitals have been targeted. targeted. race, who are being so exploited and murdered by this individual. murdered by this individual. a potentially precarious proposition. mp and a member of the defence select committee. nonetheless, president trump is select committee. promising a swift response. select committee and conservative mp. mp. and you'll be hearing part in military action against syria? the decision. syria? it depends on the outcome you have in mind. in douma, a few years ago, children were dying, they are forgotten.
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were dying, they are forgotten. have in mind. very similar to the debate we are likely to have now. likely to have now. let that happen. aid and seeing these atrocities on a daily basis, i can mention... just to let our audience know, you voted against strikes in syria? daily basis, i can mention... to inflame it. the finger at two of his staunchest in a british doctor who has worked in conflict zones, saleyah hashin. in conflict zones, saleyah hashin. allies, russia and iran. what do you make of what has happened? of syrian children, cannot be ashamed by happened? pictures of its victims. saddam hussein, and saddam hussein... we've tried that hussein... before. the assad regime's murderous destruction. ahmed, it is notjust the chemical attacks but all attacks. attacks but all attacks. repercussions, should the us take military action in syria. else's civil war, which side do you want to win? want extremely vulnerable from what was falling to out of the sky. win? even during the cold war. falling out of the sky. matter is that here it is a choice — monsters or maniacs. monsters or maniacs. the one hand and the insane in the other.
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are you talking about isis? jihadists. of civilians in a sarin gas attack. those chemical attacks happened and there monster on the one side, and the jihadists on the other. was no intervention. jihadists on the other. of any military there was no intervention. action. force, and there is but it is a limited one. it is the kurds. to respond this time around voted for, bombing isis in iraq, it was quite clear. all the greater. david willis, bbc news, los was quite clear. angeles. that we wanted the iraqi government to win and we wanted isis to lose. to win and we wanted isis to lose. in beirut for us now. international community might be considering? considering? develop breathing problems because of a chemical attack. of a chemical attack. that will do to international terrorism, topple the syrian regime. terrorism, topple the syrian regime.
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the plan was to just keep working until the symptoms hit you. until the symptoms hit you. we have been set up against each other... you haven't, to be fair. have finished the interview with mr symbolic action, changing very little on the ground. little on the ground. mercer. but it is a fact... supposed to serve as a warning to not use chemical weapons. not use chemical weapons. later, we find ourselves in the same position. perhaps that is one option. option. few times before it dropped contingent on the defence committee, chairman of the committee itself. wider strike which perhaps would take out the syrian air force. take out the syrian air force. chairman of the committee itself. its load. load. we had initially thought that lord was for our hospital. lord was for our hospital. when i say hospital i mean that loosely. say hospital i mean that loosely. hit russian aircraft as well and how would russia then respond? would russia then respond? does something like this, there are enough. was a clinic —— we thought that that load was for our hospital. load was for our hospital. enough. and i could see some convergence of view on this. medical infrastructure in the area has been cruelly destroyed. convergence of view on this. has been cruelly destroyed. would you support that, for example? convergence of view on this. is talking about taking military action. action. that it could potentially be dragged deeper into this syrian conflict. deeper into this syrian the level of trauma that people are suffering.
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conflict. thank you all very much. thank you, martin patients in beirut. beirut. triumphs you can expect bad consequences. consequences. in different parts of syria what they would like to see happen next. react, and if the uk should intervene. they would like to see happen next. —— we will ask residents. intervene. conservative mp5 with opposing views. very different from the mantle branches of islam. branches of islam. -- very different fundamental branches of islam. of the rest of the day's fundamental branches of islam. over half her life was dramatically stopped news. last night. paedophile hunters, a bbc investigation has at the age of 13 to escape her abusive continue killing his own people with chemical weapons? found. father. not necessarily. potential offenders. warning the tactics present significant of deportation. risks. look what happened in the case of president trump's personal lawyer. mr trump described the actions as a disgrace. heathrow — but that plane journey libya. libya. never happened. for reasons that are unclear. programme for some time. an affair with the president. from being put to
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the sword by gaddafi. an abortion clinic to prevent patients being gaddafi. here that actually i can't imagine being intimidated. anywhere else. for the marie stopes clinic after local women set was an all—out aerial campaign to topple up a petition. gaddafi. topple gaddafi. protestors for three decades. and shoaib khan, forces ofjihadi 's in libya was in our strategic interests? him of sexual assault. 0pelo's immigration lawyer. our strategic interests? look what it has led to. undisclosed settlement with andrea constand in it has led to. ok, thank you very much, julian lewis. 2006. much, julian lewis. in philadelphia 1a years i will start with you. ago. last year, a jury failed to reach a verdict. what happened last night? johnny mercer to your question, which was a legitimate question. last night? which was a legitimate question. been brought down to the reception of the detention centre. limited air strikes as some kind of punishment to president assad? today to mark the 20th anniversary of the good punishment to president assad? of the detention centre. friday agreement. quarterly said they would ask can't continue doing this with impunity? a few questions. of course i am. questions. julian's view is absolutely valid. view is absolutely valid. the northern ireland peace process. think we are speaking at cross purposes at all. purposes at all. where power—sharing collapsed last then locked in the room, and there was no way of contacting me. year. was no way of contacting me.
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was fatally stabbed. modern warfare is about —— the libya vote. and what is the end state. richard osborn—brooks. lawyer, she was allowed one phone call so she could speak to me. call so she could speak to me. stabbed during a struggle point was they were intending to remove her. just her, not her in mr mum? we are not prepared to 0sborn—brooks' kitchen. tolerate that. would probably be handed over to border security and put on a plane. that. border security and put on cancelled due to strike action in a plane. germany. her mother was, somewhere else in the detention centre. the detention centre. in a series of short strikes over a growing wage dispute. somewhere else in the detention cologne and bremen will be centre. that is all we knew at that stage. affected. stage. obviously we started the legal proceedings falling. legal proceedings falling. action over pay. which mean what? some sort of limited action. 30am. mean what? trying to get some sort of injunction to stop it? that is only the conversation i want to see. only the conversation i want to see. of injunction to stop it? thank you. this morning, but i'm sure he feels the same way and i agree with him. the same way and i agree with him. we don't want to end up in some mess that has gone before. that has gone before. home office refusal of her previous human rights claim. hospital where yulia skripal was discharged, we believe yesterday. discharged, we believe yesterday. human rights claim. parliament for some sort of action as a shot across the bows?
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as a shot across the bows? she's the daughter of the russian spy you can make these decisions, get on with it, briefly? in salisbury last month. with it, briefly? spy in salisbury last month. got involved, we tried to do what we could. could. will bring you the news conference as soon as it starts. good morning. thank you forjoining us. a very upset client. police attended had conversation saying, "removal directions have been deferred. with protester. " i felt why? very traumatised. cook's speech on that last night in 2004, and the mistakes are chronic. 2004, and the mistakes are chronic. these people from office has not been clear about why it was deferred last night. it was deferred last night. position and why it goes to parliament. parliament. standing outside, please so it could happen again at any point? make it happen. could happen again at any point? - any point. conduct national security in that way. thank you both very much. thank you for your company today. this is unacceptable and wrong. any point. you for your company today. we will be back tomorrow at nine o'clock. be back tomorrow at nine o'clock. want to bring in 0pelo kgari's friends. have a good day. friends. josh laurent is, naturally, what did you think when you heard? friends. the what did you think when you heard? clinic. was pretty scared to be honest —— josh lawrence. josh lawrence. entering the clinic.
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across the country to follow and rain moving northwards across the uk. the uk. suit. scenes similar to this thread this by protesters. her last night, it was scary, and we didn't really know what to do. didn't really know what to do. morning. thread this morning. hail mary, full of grace, the lord is with thee. think it isjust a quick nature of it. it. of thy womb, jesus... it's a day where i towards scotland and feel i did something wrong, northern ireland. almost. any chance to say goodbye or even understand what is happening to her. ireland. understand what is happening to temperatures in the those awful words, never. her. my heart was telling me to have as far as i understand it, not able to even say goodbye to her mum. south east up the baby. it was painful. to even say goodbye to her mum. is that correct? to 17. it's eight that correct? that is correct, as far as we know. east up to 17. far as we know. it will stay cloudy in the north east of england. in the north at night, east of england. taken to heathrow they were in separate vans. and the that much, further rain spreading into east anglia and the midlands. temperature is we know. anglia and below zero. the midlands. sorry, they were both being taken to heathrow, in two separate temperatures overnight no lower than five to eight celsius. five to eight vans? heathrow, in two separate vans? this clinic in birmingham. yes, in two separate vans. in two separate vans. celsius. across the country, usually in the run—up to easter. but a bitter debate is now getting to see each other, without getting to say goodbye. tomorrow, lots of cloud around, damp, drizzly conditions. rain for some. getting to say goodbye. raging over whether they should be you say it was last minute and a shock. banned. was last minute and a shock. hail mary,
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full of in this detention centre now for over 80 days. grace, the over 80 days. you know it could happen at any minute. lord is happen with thee. at any minute. of thy womb, jesus. this clinic in ealing in west london is targeted more than most. both stay, both for different reasons actually, as well. reasons actually, as well. stories developing at 11am. it can't be that much of a surprise, can it? be that much of a surprise, can it? and have done so for more than spy sergei skripal — is discharged from 20 years. hospital. hail mary, full of grace... their aim is to convince the women coming here not to have an abortion. i also want to take this opportunity to wish yulia well. here a number of years and we are just hoping the home office will see that. to wish yulia well. office will see that. ago. i never end of her treatment but marks a significant milestone. decided to weighing their options. have my a short amount of time who can go back, their life is here now. back, their life is here as british gas raises its prices for some abortion, never. now. i was made to have an abortion. customers. after being diagnosed with a brain tumour. agreement was signed. so how do you feel about going back to the clinic? nervous. after a conflict which killed more than 3,500 people. it's a lot more calmer than it was on the day i approached.
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the other reasons why you would allow someone to stay in britain? of course. course. for 0pelo, her formative years have been here. years have been here. you had to she has been here since she was a young teenager. here since she was a young teenager. walk past them, gathered to mark its 20th anniversary. no matter what botswana, she in the queen's prize. happened. good doesn't have a word i will any reason never forget. to go back. something with a heartbeat. reason to go back. and that's the words that still live with me today. morning. abortion you didn't work here and pay taxes and get back to that system. to that system. want? i was heartbroken. passionate about the uk, she loves britain and, yes, it is her home. britain and, yes, it is her home. it's tuesday the 10th of april. welcome to bbc newsroom live. i did fall pregnant, it was the best can, that 0pelo kgari can stay in britain? thing ever. britain? just to clarify one point on the previous question. on the previous question. spy sergei skripal — has been discharged from hospital. you can't have that, it's absolutely heart—wrenching. ijust remember going in, sitting there, and is a risk of persecution in botswa na. is a risk of persecution i wanted to come home. in botswana. for set-mac? at the hospital. and her mother. mother. taken to a safe location. some other country and be safe there.
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there. branded a murderer. so there is in fact a proven risk of persecution. risk of persecution. those here today are not the people lisa encountered. how is it to see them standing legal representations with the home office. here? it angers me. office. let's see what they come back with. i think it's cruel, i think it's back with. unfair. i don't think it should be allowed. right decision this time and allow them to stay. god created all man in them to stay. if not, obviously we will take legal proceedings further. will take legal proceedings further. thank you. his own image... we will see what happens. thank you very much. let's bring you this news. this news. vital health service. release of yulia skripal from salisbury district hospital. salisbury district hospital. don't want an abortion, but see no brought your statement earlier from the deputy chief at the hospital. the deputy chief at the hospital. other way out. today, in front of the cameras, there is no shouting. skripal, and this is the statement from the russian embassy. from the russian embassy. is being done to her is being done on her own free will. on her own free will. " more reaction on to come. on to come. offering help and support.
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trying to engage them. have been following for some months, the abortion clinic in west london. the abortion clinic in west london. but when we asked to see a on whether to ban protesters from the immediate facility outside. leaflet, we are refused. the immediate facility outside. miranda. in a pregnancy crisis. my niece when she approached the clinic with her mum. clinic with her mum. going to continue talking to the lines of, "baby killer", while they called her a bad mother. you. they called her a bad mother. opposition that the local council is considering banning couldn't go in but tried again at a later date. later date. them. she didn't go ahead with the abortion. abortion. induced labour and gave birth to a stillborn baby. stillborn baby. sex is immediately followed which my niece survived. followed which my niece survived. to hold to account. there is no excuse for you to terminate the life of a child. counselling —— 0pelo —— sepsis followed. followed. about the repercussions of their actions. actions. they should not be allowed to target clinics. to target clinics. " thank you very much for that. with candles, with their much for that. do keep your comments coming heads down, in shame. in. time for the weather with carol. good rebecca had an abortion 18 months
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ago. morning. but was still left shaken. generally wet and the rain is moving steadily northwards now. steadily northwards now. i remember feeling just so scared of what was about to happen to me. for some of us in the south, even some sunshine. some sunshine. that in turn could spark off some showers. and just stared spark off some showers. at me. and thenjust governed by low pressure, all the front around it. front around it. put his head down. coming across the east coast of scotland and north east england. scotland and north east england. the complete disapproval in his eyes... the following days, weeks, months, and to this day. it added a lot of pain to something that was already very painful. northern england and across scotland. scotland. some of which will be heavy and possibly thundery. possibly thundery. outside these clinics. on the east coast we are looking at about six iphone eight. do they know how they make women like rebecca and lisa feel? about six iphone eight. and if they did know, to the evening and overnight —— 6—8. would they stop doing it? evening and overnight —— 6—8.
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attending her local vigil now for three years. hello. east anglia in the direction of the midlands. midlands. hi. in the rain, it will not pleased to meet you. how are you? i'm all right. be a cold night. rachel has had two night. abortions herself. when did you realise that you regretted your cotman, continuing to push —— not looking at any frost. abortions? i would say ten years later. looking at any frost. a good lot of cloud with some breaks in the west and also in the south. ten years. west and also in the south. and it was a good 20 years nagging easterly winds which we will hang onto for much of this week. until i got help. hang onto for much of this week. you now go and stand outside abortion clinics. what made you decide to do across eastern scotland and the north—east of england. north—east of that? england. and possibly a little more in any sunshine. sunshine. will be in the north and also parts of the west. abortion facilities to one day regret it. of the west. up to about 16 celsius, only seven or eight for the south. up to about 16 celsius, only seven or eight forthe south. or eight forthe south.
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friday, it is spot the difference. is spot the difference. england and into scotland, still that easterly wind. that easterly wind. i thought about it with fear. south—east heading up towards the midlands. would be alive midlands. today. when i'm 18, but still more on that coastline. outside the coastline. clinic, i very quietly pray. show you the trend, warming up from i will even say, "can i sunday into week. help you? sunday into week. "here's a leaflet. "i'm here if you need me. they have had an abortion. have you ever called a woman a murderer? somebody a murderer? celsius, possibly even a little bit more. hello, it's tuesday, it's ten o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. our top story today... would not be allowed and should not be allowed.
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but i have never her father, a seen any evidence of former double agent, it. is also doing well. about a baby's heartbeat, or called her mum? i've never told anyone that the heartbeat is at 16 days. her father has also made good progress. isn't emotive — i think progress. it's fact. was no longer in a critical condition. condition. able to leave hospital injune calls. calls. able to leave hospital injune calls. also on the pro calls. that's the words that stuck in my mind for all those years. that particular phrase. you are killing something with a heartbeat. a little unborn baby's heart is beating on the 18th day. this is what they say is "help and support" for women. and this is the bit i don't understand.
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in my situation come to terms with what they are about to photos, they died from —— they died in the hands of their parents. should britain join america in military do. action? plus — should protests outside abortion clinics be banned? experience even tougher. on the issue how does that make you feel? tonight. have changed their mind, and thank goodness that... they thank us for being there. this random group of people are —— if you are approaching the clinic. miffed by a leaflet, or our very presence. i'd like to know how many people they to hear from you too. have actually helped. saying, "thank you," diagnosed with "you chanting at adhd. me has changed and share your my mind totally. experience. good morning.
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with a summary of today's news. to a woman who they have supported through spy sergei skripal — has been discharged from hospital. pregnancy. ms skripal and her father were poisoned by a nerve agent in march. and became pregnant while working as in hospital in salisbury. a live—in au pair. my heart was telling me to have taken to a safe location. the baby. i was desperate, i felt desperate. i never dreamed to have an abortion. the biological father didn't want the child. we discharged yulia skripal from the hospital. hospital. from the media and we want to reiterate her request. reiterate her request. it's not the right time treatment, but it marks a significant milestone. for me to have another significant milestone. her father has also made good progress. child. and finally i gave in. has also made good progress. so, what happened when you went to the clinic? a lady approached me and she offered me a leaflet. friday, i announced he was no longer in a critical condition. i saw all in a critical condition. the help they can offer. i asked, , we hope he too will be able to leave hospital in due course. "are you
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serious about this? security council. syrian city of douma. for my against its ally would have grave repercussions. child. so what have they given you? they give me weekly money. pretty much everything i needed. paedophile hunters, a bbc investigation has would have found. happened? probably i would have the abortion. changed your mind potential offenders. anyway? no. because i did not have the financial... i did not have the money. warning the tactics present significant risks. an abortion clinic to prevent patients at the clinics. being intimidated. by standing for the marie stopes clinic after local women outside a set up a petition.
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clinic? protestors for three well, not that i know of. decades. then why do you still do what you do? as british gas raises its prices for some customers. you plant the seed. 5% — that's about £60 a year. 1 million households will be affected by the increase. that's a summary of the round that they will think latest bbc news. twice. 30am. so an extra layer of scrutiny and pain thank you. is completely unnecessary. thank you for your messages as well. messages as well. particularly on protesters outside abortion clinics. protesters outside abortion clinics. this tweet, yes, they should be banned. from standing here. banned. most importantly being faced with that is incredibly traumatic. that is incredibly traumatic. of women being pushed, women being
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shouted at. because of one person shouting. then it moves onto they work out that love comes from understanding not persecution? understanding not persecution? ten weeks, that's a surgical abortion... as is the government. it's currently considering what to do at a national level. approach people and shouting and chanting should be banned. chanting should be directly outside of clinics. banned. end of the day, it is a woman's body and her right to choose. my own freedom to be and her right to choose. there. talk more about that in the next half an hour. half an hour. we will bring you the sport now. mike is on the gold coast. starting with the news tom daley is not fit enough to defend his title. not fit enough to right, this isn't right! defend his title. i am whispering, "can i help? it's a small part of their day. and then they go about their everyday lives.
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they will remember for the rest of metre platform event because of a hip injury. their lives. hip injury. thank you for your messages. goodfellow in the synchronised platform on friday. platform on friday. the chance for him to get one medal at least. him to get one medal at least. a difficult but legal choice is astounding. success in astounding. the shooting? mental weapon against the innocent and should be prosecuted. and should be prosecuted. one, heather, it is nobody‘s business. business. you made valid decision for a valid reason. for a there are so many different disciplines. valid reason. disciplines. am not for abortion but are am i to judge? judge? another one, people have terminations for many reasons. vigils for the past three years. pam is also an abortion rights campaigner. shots from lying on your belly shooting at a target 50 metres away. shooting at a target 50 metres away. birthday after which was very specialfor him. specialfor him. good morning to you. games in birmingham so he will not get to defend the title. get to defend the title. find it stressful with protesters outside?
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outside? will be running to try to pass the protesters. protesters. reduced to tears by the activists outside the clinics. outside the clinics. so it takes some doing, it was started by queen victoria. started by queen victoria. clear going through that that it is definitely having a presence. celebrating success on that tonight, definitely having a presence. defending their title. defending their title. impact does it have, do you see, on the women going into clinics? the women going into clinics? ireland's boxing captain, some kind of incident away from the ring? of incident away m distresses them, it intimidate them. distresses them, it intimidate them. there are a range of emotions. from the ring? people are just angry, some are fearful. fearful. are not necessarily organised volunteers in any sense. volunteers in any sense. protests, calm people, initiating sensible moderate conversations. in the light welterweight division on sunday. on sunday. protesters when women are approaching the clinic.
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approaching the clinic. don't know the intentions of these groups. groups. nuisance and he has been banned from certain areas until further notice. certain areas until further notice. know and that uncertainty is what is causing the distress. causing the distress. determining what exactly happened at 2:45am our time yesterday morning. 2:45am our time yesterday morning. women change their mind because of these kind of vigils and protests? these kind of vigils and protests? trying to sort out the technicals so you could be with us. enjoy. suggest they really make a difference at all, you know. difference at all, you know. outside and quite often don't have the abortion. approaching the women coming in and out from their appointments. the abortion. clinics for counselling to help them make up their mind. make up their mind. to stop this from happening. outside the local clinic. if they do, it's thought others will follow. we bought you jean mackenzie's full necessarily be doing what they are report earlier.
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doing. here is a short extract. doing. then we will have a short conversation about this. hail mary, full of grace, the lord is with thee. of thy womb, jesus... this is a familiar sight in ealing. is without being spoken to or harassed? is without being spoken to or harassed ? jones remembers well. is without being spoken to or harassed? —— a clear zone. -- a clear with a brain zone. tumour. for women to access health care without being discriminated against. without being discriminated against. with a heartbeat. and that's the words that still live with nations, for example in canada and australia, they have really worked. australia, they have really worked. me today. ijust remember going in, sitting there, and i it doesn't necessarily stop people wanted to come home. being against abortion. being against abortion. just have that protest, have that position, in other places. position, in other places. branded a murderer. how is it to see them standing here? it angers me. i think it's cruel, i think it's unfair. i don't think it should be allowed. because they don't think it is the right thing to do.
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right thing to do. vital health service. but the anti—abortion support unless the idea is not necessarily groups dispute this. the case. don't want an abortion, but see no other way out. hail mary, full of grace, the lord is with thee. of thy womb, jesus... much, dr pam lowe, social 5cienti5t at aston university. i will even say, "can i help you? this tweet from scott. scott. "here is a campaigners hara55ed women outside the clinic beggars belief. the clinic beggars belief. leaflet. "i'm here if you need me. no idea what traumatic, medical, personal or any reasons they have. personal or any reasons they have. more on that to come. where yulia skripal has been relea5ed. a week during lent. have you ever called a woman a murderer? somebody a murderer? i am the medical director here at salisbury district hospital. but i have never salisbury district hospital. i am joined by our director of nursing. joined by our director of nursing. seen any evidence of it. in ealing, the council has intervened. patients we are treating here at the ho5pital, sergei and yulia skripal. ho5pital, sergei and yulia skripal. i will not be
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taking questions. around the clinic to stop people received three people protesting outside. who required inpatient care. be banned altogether. inpatient care. skripal and detective sergeant nick bailey. bailey. nick was discharged on the 22nd of march. 22nd of march. with their heads down, in shame. rebecca had an abortion 18 months ago. toxic chemical which aims to prevent the nervous system from functioning. the nervous system but was still left shaken. from functioning. it's a small part of their day. and then they go about their everyday lives. received round—the—clock care from our clinicians. our clinicians. they will remember for the rest of to draw on advice and support from world leading experts in the fields. world leading experts in their lives. the fields. what to do at a national level. privacy to which they and all of our patients are entitled. patients are entitled. outside the clinics. protest is somebody shouting, "this isn't
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right, this isn't right. enzymes in the body which stopped the i'm whispering, nerves functioning. the nerves functioning. "can i in symptoms such as help? 5ickness, hallucinations. hallucinations. an extra layer of scrutiny and pain is completely unnecessary. different experiences of abortion ensuring they can breathe and that blood can continue to circulate. blood can continue to together. rachel mackenzie, who you saw there in jean's film. circulate. and the other in her early 205. more enzymes to replace those birmingham. affected by the poisoning. and hattie ladd. hattie had an abortion seven affected by the poisoning. techniques to remove years ago, when she was 21. she had to walk through a group of protesters to get any residual toxins. to the clinic. toxins. exceptionally well to the treatment we have been providing. we have been providing. welcome, both both are at different stages in their recovery. of you. their recovery. we have no discharged yulia from the hospital. discharged yulia from the experiences of what you experienced at hospital. that time. at that time. hattie, why don't you tell rachel? media and i want to reiterate tell rachel? her request. request.
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i also want to take this opportunity to wish her well. opportunity to wish her well. is not the end of her treatment, but it marks a significant milestone. it marks a significant milestone. outside the clinic because it really resonates, exactly how i felt. her father has also resonates, exactly how i felt. i was essentially made a good progress. frightened. progress. essentially frightened. it was just incredibly intrusive. was no longer in a critical condition. i was going to... condition. to... will son be able to leave hospital in due course. in due course. there tojudge me pay tribute to the staff at salisbury district hospital. salisbury district hospital. and intrude on that. that. to think about it now and watch other people go through it. -- emotional. emotional. patients, as they do, day in, day out —— abortion isjust so traumatic in outstanding care. out —— outstanding care. itself. itself. been a credit to the hospital, the nhs and the city of salisbury. thank you. you. that it was made worse of our very presence being there. presence being there.
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know you said you did, but i hadn't, hundreds that i help, they haven't. hundreds that i help, they haven't. as you can see, rory —— our correspondent is there. correspondent is there. what can you draw from that? draw from that? confirmation yulia skripal has been released from hospital. released from hospital. yesterday, just confirming it this choice, to give them a choice, a morning. choice of support. morning. choice of support. just the 24 weeks, but if the child is 18, many women... is 18, many women... —— it is not just prayers. just prayers. work for, voluntary, we are there to support them as well. how could i
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judge? we have had —— i have had two. two. the judgment is implicit in people standing there. people standing there. there is a period of recuperation required. required. 30 people there because it was around lent. around lent. do not agree with abortion, so what do you think people will think? do you think people will think? know you do not want people to go through with it. through with it. as a result of being exposed to the nerve agent attack. nerve agent attack. about it, and that is the experience ihad. you are asked again and again, "are you sure? is this what you want to do? do you want counselling?
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said early crop, but it might not have happened. have happened. their decision, and they don't feel it was the wrong decision for them. it was the wrong sergei skripal will be decision for them. discharged as well. the rest of the morning's news. good morning. it, to catch the people who will regret it. it is not worth it. and i think you need to find a better approach. better approach. emergency meeting at the un sure you know quite a few, but i know hundreds who do regret it. know hundreds who do regret it. security council. council. is planning to respond forcefully within 2a but they have needed psychiatric hours. within 2a hours. help afterwards. help afterwards. was raped, and she was coming to terms with the rate. terms with the rate. used evidence you never get over rape. from paedophile over rape. hunters. hunters. psychiatric help —— coming to terms with the fake profiles to track down potential offenders. potential offenders. rape. with the rape.
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abortionist count my baby's body parts. parts. despite police warning the tactics present significant risks. i'm not going to go outside the clinic and say that the people. the clinic and say that the people. it is my own experience. just there like the others to help those women. those women. an abortion clinic to prevent patients being intimidated. for the marie stopes clinic after local women set up a petition. through and regret what i did, surely those women matter. surely those women matter. surely those women deserve that. protestors for three those women deserve that. decades. today to mark the 20th anniversary of the good friday agreement. the northern ireland peace process. respect, and they deserve to be given... where power—sharing collapsed last absolutely. year. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. back to perfect strangers, standing around and are victoria. costing them outside. martine, and to emily said this text from emma about the and are costing them outside. —— accosting them. accosting them.
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protests. from emma about the protests. you know that is what you want to do. deeply upset when i was 16 and went for an abortion with my mum. do. for an abortion with my mum. quite prevalent everywhere else in these people outside made me feel gemili at it and distressed. gemili at it and distressed. society. society. and so something that actually is quite normal for most people. and so something that actually is quite normalfor most people. quite normalfor most people. the right decision for me at the time. time. programme, so do send in your own views and your own experiences. views and your own experiences. time for the sport. around it and i don't think that is fair to do to people. fair to do to people. for the sport. a final thought from you, rachel. thought from you, rachel. commonwealth games, —— two shooting calleds. calleds. you feel, but if giving somebody a leaflet and saying, can i help? leaflet and saying, can i help? has to be good for some people, a lot of people, that we have helped. lot of people, that we have helped. hopes to compete on final thought from you, hattie. friday in the synchronised private decision that shouldn't be interfered with. event. interfered with. synchronised
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event. traumatising other people to help other people. other people. i think you need to find a better approach. public nuisance, police were called to a nightclub incident. find a better approach. to a nightclub incident. vineyard definitely doesn't traumatise people. thank you both. great champions league comebacks to reach the semifinals. really appreciate you having that conversation together. conversation together. reach the thank you, hattie ladd and rachel mackenzie. the british pregnancy advisory service. semifinals. 3—0 ahead of the second leg of the quarterfinal tonight. 3—0 ahead of the second leg of the quarterfinaltonight. 3—0 ahead of the second leg of the quarterfinal tonight. quarterfinal tonight. and are campaigning for vigils to be banned. more in the next half an hour. welcome to the programme. tuesday morning. to the suspected chemical attack in syria. in birmingham, which holds vigils outside clinics. it was just referenced there. they hold vigils outside clinics. whether russia uses its veto against them or not. hold vigils outside clinics. katherine, you have been campaigning for these vigils to be banned. for these vigils to in the rebel—held city of douma. be banned. reports of chemical attacks in syria date back does that need to happen, in your view? to 2012. view? here is a look back at some of those incidents.
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feeling very intimidated by these groups. happening there. i will stop you there. but you are just not hanging around the door where women enter? the door where women enter? protest, we are there to offer help and alternatives. and alternatives. describe it, i am asking you about being further away? being further away? don't get the help to offer this to women and couples who need it. women and couples who need it. you don't want those buffer zones. don't want those buffer zones. for a buffer zone outside this clinic in ealing. clinic in ealing. of ealing and the women who need to access that clinic. access that clinic. national problem that needs a national solution. national solution.
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ensure all women and old clinic staff are also protected. staff are also protected. let me bring in emma, who has contacted us. bring in emma, who has contacted us. she is from tunbridge wells and is one of our viewers, she is 28. one of our viewers, she is 28. was 16, when she was going for an abortion. hello, emma. how are you? good to speak to you. thank you for speaking to us. speaking to us. as a 16—year—old going for an abortion? abortion? see these people shouting at myself and my mum outside of the clinic. and my mum outside of the clinic. anyway to fall pregnant, had to tell teachers, friends, parents. teachers, friends, parents. have an abortion, it was difficult for me anyway. for me
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anyway. "how could you let your child kill a baby? baby? going through this, itjust made me feel embarrassed. feel embarrassed. decision anyway, all throughout your life. life. know, when you think back to that time, it isjust unnecessary. time, it isjust unnecessary. sorry to interrupt, emma. to interrupt, emma. shouting those words at you, what did it make you feel like? did it make you feel like? i burst into tears. into tears. clinic, but it was the right decision for me, that's the thing. decision for me, that's the thing. it was the right decision for me. teachers, i spoke to my parents and family about it.
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i had made the decision. it was the right decision. and they made me feel really small and really horrible. and really horrible. thank you very much, emma. much, emma. thank for getting in touch, i really appreciate it. touch, i really appreciate it. let me read this e—mailfrom christine. me read this e—mailfrom christine. to feel desperate about making the right choice. right choice. vested interest in giving abortions because they are paid well. because they are paid well. calmed me down and helped me get things in perspective. things in perspective. women who are unsure, but they are time pressured. time pressured. psychological damage and regret that lasts a lifetime.
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lasts a lifetime. experience, but all of our staff are independent, unbiased. independent, unbiased. medical procedure she does not want is just simply not true. is just simply not true. all of our clinics are regulated. clinics are regulated. our staff help them reach the decision that is right for them. decision that is right for them. termination, having been to the british pregnancy advisory service? british pregnancy advisory service? .. clinics for three years and spoken to hundreds of women. to hundreds of women.
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she hasn't managed to persuade one woman to change your mind. woman to change your mind. story when we are talking to a woman. woman. have changed their minds and that is the same vigil she is part of. the same vigil she is part of. rachel may not have direct this book... book... there are other people there as well. as well. —— she may not have directly spoken to... directly spoken to... read or help they were being offered. this text from ann. 19 when i had my first and thankfully only termination. thankfully only termination. hattie ladd 51 and a mother of three. i do not regret my decision. —— i am now 51 and a mother of three. three.
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terminate a pregnancy without much thought and pain. terminate a pregnancy without much thoughtand pain. terminate a pregnancy without much thought and pain. thought and pain. regret their decision, but they shouldn't dare to speak for others. shouldn't dare to speak for others. "i do not regret my decision to terminate my pregnancy. terminate my pregnancy. certainly made the right decision for me at that time of my life. for me at that time of my life. report back after the ealing council meeting tonight. meeting tonight. still to come before 11... attack at the weekend. should follow suit. we will speak to them live. diagnosed with adhd. behaviour in the past.
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i have been asking our viewers as well. why are you smiling like that? the chaotic debt. they were your words! funny because it is true. -- the chaotic bit. that is interesting. interesting. i have been asking our viewers as well. morning, if you've been diagnosed as an adult. i will read some of those messages. what's it like being diagnosed with adhd in your 405? which is unusual. it is helpful, actually. actually. i think that is the first word i would use. my life has been chaotic. for me, there have been... say more ats van down but the dome is two things. is two things. that sounds trivial that adds up to a lot. i constantly lose things. just two minutes ago i couldn't find this jacket. this jacket.
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it, and it had just gone and it is a mapping thing. mapping thing. passports, you can't go abroad, it adds up to a lot. especially for my wife. wife. so there is that, then the other side. other side. trouble in the past, and there is that as well. there are the two sides. sides. what does that explain about your life, do you think? all of it. i am very high energy. very high energy. an enormous number of subjects, and one thing... one thing... two things i really learned and simply didn't know about adhd. simply didn't know about adhd. firstly, it gives you a thing called hyper focus. firstly, it gives you a thing called hyperfocus. hyperfocus.
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and lack of focus —— the things you can't do, logistics. can't do, logistics. you know, everyone has adhd these days. days. you can see on a brain scan what adhd looks like. we have got some images, i will talk about them now. very pretty brain! you certainly have. talk us through them, lower blood flow to the front. them, lower blood flow to the front.
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explained it a lot, but what it actually shows is lower blood flow. actually shows is lower blood flow. dementia also have lower blood flow to the prefrontal cortex. to the prefrontal cortex. there is something wrong with your brain. my brain is different to your brain. brain. would increase the flow of blood to your brain? like what? stimulants, four example. four example.
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the blood flow missing in your brain. me, having seven copies a day. day. alcohol is not a stimulant but you think it is. —— coffees. cocaine, being another as well. cocaine, that is ludicrous, but it is part of the picture. is part of the picture. you lost yourjob as a blue peter presenter over cocaine... did i? i do remember that! do remember that! is that linked to what you now know is adhd? what you now know is adhd?
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possibly, it is hard to say categorically. categorically. answer, i think it is part of the picture. picture. excited, i had moved to london, out on the town, i hate that picture... on the town, i hate that picture... i don't care whether you hate it! that is you then. i would have sacked me from blue peter. sacked me from blue peter. who gave him a job on telly? him a job on telly? it is part of it, i suspect. it is part of it, isuspect. it is part of it, i suspect. there are other factors. not as simple as that. years ago, it follows you around, how do you reflect on that? how do you reflect on that? just get another stimulant! of course! there is me
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diagnosed a few years ago, i was medicated, my life turned around. medicated, my life turned around. onto the council, things are looking much better now. much better now. follow me around from the formative years were your personality... years were your personality... how old were you when you were diagnosed? 28. the way you have turned things around. i have a lot in common with richard. i think my mum might be watching. watching. childhood eczema i had a great childhood. childhood. —— i did not have a terrible childhood! terrible childhood! done the same things for you, it smooths out the rough edges. smooths out the rough edges.
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noticed in me i am calmer, more reliable, but with the children. reliable, but with the children. i am surprised that you are still alive —— two types of adhd. seriously? and said, this woman is saving your life. wow. i do not know if you feel the same way? yeah, i do. diagnosed, i am certain i would be in prison or something now. in prison or something now.
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richard, in stoke, thank you. in stoke, thank you. thank you for being so honest. thank you, richard. to it then, you are a lot,, in what other ways has your life changed? other ways has your life changed? ” drink less. —— you are a lot calmer. a bad father, but i am not that good at reading stories to them. at reading stories to them. that just sounds lame! it is the focus. about how the universe began, i would be engaged. would be engaged. his scan, will his brain be fixed, will he build lego with me? will he build lego with me? getting better at that kind of thing. thing.
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it is about not being dangerous as much as anything else. dangerous as much as anything else. i may have sounded harsh using the word lame, i am totally sympathetic. word lame, i am totally sympathetic. you know me. tell stories, why can't i tell my kids stories? part of the attention deficit. some comments here. get this e—mail... .. get this e—mail... this e—mail... for two years to receive the diagnosis and to access therapy. diagnosis and to access therapy. support given to adults with adhd is nothing short of scandalous. nothing short of scandalous. you are in the states. in the states. to be fair, i also paid quite a lot of money. paid quite a lot of money. i do not know what the processes in the uk. know what the processes in the uk.
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much it costs, for me, it was quite expensive. expensive. is explaining a lot of my own experiences. experiences. let us just be us and enjoy ourselves. enjoy ourselves. memorised macbeth word for word —— marked failed. marked failed. it does not tell you you are disruptive. you are disruptive. in a quiet room with a paperfor hours and my brain goes. hours and my brain goes. advanced but it does not show up
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in exams. exams. richard, well done for having a successful life. successful life. i still have impulses but i can laugh at them. impulses but i can laugh at them. a lot of my life suddenly makes sense. sense. some of what you mentioned rings true for me too. good to see men. mental health mentioned. knowledge, how can you be worse off by adding knowledge? thank you very much. thank you, loved it. thank you for coming on the programme. to northern ireland. could do to the agreement. where a number of events are taking place today to mark the anniversary.
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extraordinary happened here and very unexpected. unexpected. which effectively and largely put an end to 30 years of violence. end to 30 years of violence. representatives of all the other local parties. local parties. the issue of brexit is looming large and what will happen to the border. and what will happen to the border.
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encourage us to think again, i think. think. thank you very much for joining us. joining us. any sense of celebration, because of the current flighted—macro climate. studio: thank you. the suspected chemical weapons attack on saturday. should britain follow suit? andjoin in? with very different views. with the latest in douma. and a warning — the images we're about to show are distressing.
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