tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News April 11, 2018 9:00am-11:02am BST
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i'm victoria derbyshire — welcome to the programme. leaderjeremy corbyn. ended in a russian veto. over syria in 2013. saying military action should not happen "under any circumstances". monster over the lives of the syrian in 2015 you voted for air strikes against is in syria. people. we'll bring reaction and hear from those on the ground in syria. attack at the weekend? said is correct. of personal data. qualifications action might be necessary. of the hotel you stayed in last necessary. night? um... no. so how did his performance go down? washington politicians to also take stock and president obama hesitated. we'll get reaction from facebook friends and stock and president obama hesitated. critics.
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a population in syria, ostensibly by president assad. social services better president assad. protected her from so do you support military her abusive father. action now? military action now? you good morning. welcome to the programme, we're live until 11. that, were an option to vote for action presented in due course. action presented in due course. will talk about whether a vote would be necessary. circumstances would you support military intervention? military intervention? this as a result of non—interventionism are not true. this as a result of non-interventionism are not true. non-interventionism are not true. well, the idea this as a result of nonintervention is not true. nonintervention is not true.
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has been true of the united states, of turkey, as saudi arabia. of turkey, as saudi arabia. you support military intervention now? now? no, i think it would be a fantastically dangerous move. at the standard network rate. fantastically dangerous move. our top story today... don't know what the situation is with a chemical attack on syria. with a chemical attack on syria. meaning you're not sure who did it? assad's alleged chemical attack on a rebel town. i'm not calling for an independent inquiry into saying saturday's attack. david willis reports. that. going to investigate it, and that's the way it should be done. the way it should be done. potentially, involving britain, a step closer. what do you think about that? that? i think everybody has to say this is a very dangerous situation. this is a very dangerous situation. possibility of war between nuclear making the prospect of a military strike on syria all the more likely. powers. already all these powers are intervening. intervening.
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council members. for military action. currently developing for syria. but president trump has vowed to respond forcefully. various other —— people in various other parts of the middle east. other parts of the middle east. best steps are. the big question was how should the west there will be retaliation from russia. that is a respond. very dangerous situation. might choose to defend syrian situation. jim fitzpatrick, you must be worried about retaliation. be worried about retaliation. airspace. the focus not on an immediate ceasefire? ceasefire? escalating the conflict. david willis, bbc news. sense whatsoever will be worried about escalation. our correspondent martin patience is in beirut. about escalation. being made to try to bring about a ceasefire. that is just not going to happen. and latest information on for us, martin? happen. that's right.
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they have been in retreat ever since. since. let me get lindsey german to respond, because that is true. respond, because that is true. defeated and i am against all foreign intervention. foreign intervention. turkey in their bombing the ypg, the cards, and! action from the americans in syria will be —— so perhaps aircraft. will be —— so perhaps aircraft. un, these two countries, their block there. there. role in doing this —— the ypg, the third man. third man. the big danger —— there is deadlock there. this for themselves —— donald trump should not have a role. should not ok, so what is the delay now? have a what are we waiting for? role. is expecting some kind of strike, what are we waiting for? what are we waiting for? i think we are going through a process. disaster as a country, total disaster. are going through a process. disaster. in that sense so this is not a solution. the un last night, nor
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resolution passed. solution. passed. fitzpatrick, isn't it, regarding what happened in libya? what happened in libya? president and the american president. president. does, however chemical weapons were a red line in the past. and it is not clear whether or not britain will be on board. a red line in the past. they were not ever a red line. britain will be on not ever a red line. board. president obama said they were. said they were. a red line and clearly that didn't happen. happen. allegations of chemical weapons further. further. weapons in 2013 and that has not happened either. happened either. positions of power to make a decision. decision. some description but that is clearly not going to happen. not going to happen. strikes or missile strikes could actually take place. actually take place. attack on syria could actually triggered something far worse. triggered something far worse. registered in preventing that particular weapon being used. particular weapon being used. is the question that authorities are asking.
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asking. —— will not eliminate the virus is doing violence. virus is doing violence. answer that specific question. but keeping bombing... confrontation between russia and america on the ground. bombing... america on the ground. thank you very much, martin. very much, martin. martin patience live in beirut. the iraq war that all of these interventions have ended in failure. interventions have ended in live in beirut. failure. the rest of the morning's news so far. that is the question we have to address. address. with a summary of the rest of the days news. good continue, we are told it is an absolutely terrible situation. absolutely terrible situation. morning. it is not going to be solved by bombing. bombing. handling of personal after all saudi arabia are involved in bombing yemen. involved in bombing information. yemen. affecting 87 million users. here's our technology reporter, dave lee. and it is certainly not going to help anything here. help anything here. thank you both for coming on the programme. for coming on the programme. facing his social network. we didn't take a broad enough view of our responsibility. and i'm sorry. stop the war coalition and jim fitzpatrick, labour mp. i started facebook i run it, and i'm responsible for what happens here. let me the council involved. just
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cut to campaigners say others will follow their lead. the and... chase... 87 million facebook users — something it denies. without seemingly inevitable regulations on handling data. is set to change for ollett us bat—mac the biggest airline show. bat—mac the biggest airline show. of the hotel you've stayed in last night? for one cannot wait —— how it is set to change for all of us. time for the latest news — here's julian worricker. no. good morning. i think that might be what this is all about. could target their launch when the russians targeted the platform in sites. 2016. into saturday's suspected chemical attack. of personal information. cambridge analytica — which denies any wrongdoing.
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of representatives. that they were trying to hack into them. operations. mr zuckerberg made some interesting concessions. on crime in the capital, after a recent surge in murders. in his ongoing investigation into russian meddling. murders in the capital since the start of this year. in the past few minutes he spoke to victoria. would always be a free version of the site crime in london is going available to users. up less fast than crime dave lee, bbc news, in across the country. it's a washington. fact. it still going up. as across the country. of private hospitals in england require improvement. across the country. and leadership of some services. crime is going up across the country. after problems that require national solutions. follow—up
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inspections. and education as well. of private hospitals in england require improvement. and leadership of some and we have challenged hospitals to improve. services. after follow—up inspections. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. their governance processes. back to victoria. thank you very much. to ban protesters from standing outside an abortion clinic. women were being intimidated as they tried to enter. campaigners cannot stand within 100 metres of the clinic. decision for women. who were turned away from a venue in douma for being a gay couple. douma for being a gay couple. has been turned away —— a venue in leeds. this one.
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was stabbed to death have been branded as an "insult". friends went ahead and i was sent home to change my shoes. home to change my shoes. where he was killed. on suspicion of murder, but released without charge. in again —— i was turned away for wearing trainers. wearing trainers. the doormen backed down and i ended up getting on. better protected her from her abusive down and i ended up getting on. father. i like a persistent woman! like a persistent woman! it on a pub crawl in manchester with bob colleagues, all straight men. from sutton, who was murdered by her father. bob colleagues, all straight men. to go to an previous pub crawls because it now, gabe bach. returned to because it now, gabe bach. his care by a for you lads now —— it had now become a gay bar. judge. here's some sport now with mike bushell. neal gray, in the next few minutes. out of the quarterfinals of the champions league. in court later today. champions league.
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mo salah and roberto firmino with the goals. roberto firmino with the goals. guardiola sense to the stands in what was sorry night for city. on his home in 2014. what was sorry night for city. draw for the semifinals to explicit friday. wrongdoing, was not charged with any 2—1 to liverpool. offence. damages in may last year. he's now seeking substantial damages from the bbc. the world cup after a 2—1victory over bosnia and herzegovina. over bosnia and herzegovina. the second from the penalty spot after beth mead was fouled. after beth mead was fouled. britain's got talent shows on his own for the first jodie taylor time. converting. taylor converting. following his drink—driving charge. as they were filmed in january. 30. buses as they played all —— altered offensively against his side. offensively against his side. thank you very much. good morning. diving silver in the synchronised thank you three metre springboard. —— english duo. forjoining us. duo. england currently second on the medal table behind australia.
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medal table behind australia. that is all the sport for matsuyama. is all the sport for matsuyama. more later on. soon as we establish the line with him. thank you very much. 10:41am. and many others will follow suit. services better protected her from her abusive father. mackenzie who was at that meeting in returned to his care. ealing. did not contribute to her ealing. noisy on both sides but tell us why the council voted this way? us why the council voted this way? death. residents to have the protesters removed. removed. first here's a reminder of the tragic council had promised to look at the issue. case. this is the family life that ben butler fought for. issue. go on, ellie! and the life he destroyed in a fit of rage. police, gathering evidence, consultant with the public. consultant with the public. as an accidentally recorded phone call really based on everything they had learned. demonstrated. don't ask me to do something which you ain't bleep done! learned. sort it out, now bleep off! from women hounded by protesters, who had been frightened. who had been frightened.
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about one woman who was still having nightmares about her experience. nightmares about her experience. subservient partner. .. sword really was the best way to achieve it. what was the reaction? and days before ellie's —— safe zone really was the best way. the reaction was death, gray mixed. wrote this. outside the council building and packing at the meeting. packing at the meeting. claimed was from a fall. calling her mother moments later. from the courtroom where the case has been heard. abortion but don't see another way out of it, they say. out of it, they say. they had had their human rights taken away. lets you a bit of child to find ellie and that, sorry... finally calling 999. —— let's listen to of that.
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my daughter is not breathing that has been agreed. properly! jennie gray is shouting, with ben butler in the background. she'sjust laying babies are going here... to die because 0k, of this... darling, this... altercation that you were talking i'm about. trying how will it work in practical terms? terms? to help... clinic is, -- well, the safe zone will be along the road. on how to resuscitate will be along the road. ellie. detectives soon worked out ellie had been dead for some time. that is a performance. to show any anti—abortion placards, banners and hand out leaflets. banners and hand out leaflets. that must have been very difficult. the couple had a history. in 2007, ben butler was convicted of shaking six—week old ellie. returned to their care. the couple even went on
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television to complain of that injustice. fined up to £100 and if they carry on the can be prosecuted. on the can be prosecuted. to get everything you think this means for other clinics across the country? clinics across the country? fine. could have the potential to be harmful to do this, but it does look like others may follow suit. to your baby? others may follow suit. no, not at all. some are already looking at this option. already looking at this option. it is part of a much bigger debate. is part of a much bigger debate. certain people, isn't it? to clear my name completely. jennie, had you ever had any doubts about ben? rudd to come up with a national solution. solution. none whatsoever. when she was a baby, you know, how he... he was so... ealing will stand on its own for long. he wanted to see her every day from the minute she was born. long. thank you very much, jean, thank you. at the door every day, just to give her a kiss. on a legal technicality. to try and get the vigils later allowed ellie banned. home.
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complex of decisions. one way or the other. council voted on. anna, you wanted this, your reaction? there are very reaction? serious consequences. ellie to her parents. until then, her maternal grandfather had looked after her. come up with a fair and just solution. solution. anna's group campaigning to produce false accusations of this. could serve that order on any professional they needed to. false accusations of this. at ellie's school, they found she was often absent. when challenged, her parents group got started and it's obvious that has been no harassment. were evasive. that has been no harassment. it has taken them this long... taken them this long... involved social workers.
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because of the family court judgment from several years before. submitted things and their voices were not included at all. therefore all we could do was treat the issue as an were not included attendance issue. at all. to the council and the council treated it as one. as gentle and thoughtful. false accusations? ellie's grandfather you have ignored the submissions? on both points they neal gray are wrong. wrong. the evidence pack produced was clear. is with was clear. us now. evidence from local residents and it was far—reaching. was far—reaching. outside ealing to make their views known. known. good morning, neal, how are you first of all? and trying to be positive. how do you react to that? i disagree, very much. witnessed the behaviours which are denied. denied.
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were fully responsible, possibly passing the buck to each other. and presented to passing the buck to each other. councillors, they were also i blame the not treated as judge for the way one. were not treated as one. the official she put in an consultations were order... she put in from ealing. an order... ealing. abortions don't all live in the evenings. father after basically you had bought ellie up. evenings. we had her claire, you can still hold your vigil, they are further away. your vigil, they are further away. for five months. you had brought her has established a right for us to call women murderers. up. call women murderers. was a normal boboli cheeky brain a little girl. no one has a right to harass women. little girl. i was so proud that she was my right to harass women. group has protested against grand daughter. i really this island existing. island existing. miss her. you can still do that, only further away. her. that, only further away. would not make an island for us if it was. it was. beliefs and behaviours that some groups want to
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do. groups want to do. omissions by the authorities contributed to the death of ellie. contributed to the death of ellie. activity, they are prohibited in that space as well. that space as well. but those injail are ben butler and jennie gray, your younger daughter. jennie gray, your younger daughter. my younger daughter. peaceful protests but at the behaviours are not to be tolerated. behaviours are not last time you on the programme you disowned her. on the programme you disowned her. |j have disowned her. to be tolerated. have disowned her. will you abide by the was innocent but they were not band? innocent. i know what they did. always been law—abiding, we will do all we can to challenge it. all we can to challenge it. you want rich the order? we have always been law—abiding. we have always been law-abiding. law-abiding. thank you for coming on the programme. daughter via video link doing the inquest hearing, what is not like. inquest hearing, what is not like. ” was shocked. was shocked. but what about the cabin of tomorrow? the legal people that it was the law so that accepted. so that accepted. i tried not to look at 35,000 feet likely to change for you and at them. look at i? them. it may be closer than you think.
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many years from now. saying, we are will be the norm. innocent, we are innocent. innocent. enough rope to hang themselves, so to speak. to speak. fully family friendly business class suite. minimum of 2a years for beating your granddaughter. granddaughter. i think he lives in a fa ntasy world. i think he lives in a fantasy world. they both do. an option, how about this? a fa ntasy world. a fantasy world. to create the ambience. fantasy daytime. let's try night—time. world. not good enough? how about leaving the sure that people say, i predict it, but how do you predict it. i plane but don't know. not actually
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know. leaving the plane? yeah, i'm on the beach. in our future flying. calm and relaxing. assured of —— having allegedly shaken her when she was the baby. and what about the crew? shaken her when she was the baby. replaced by this guy. what do you think of that decision. bringing you that hot towel before take—off. thank you! the need for some sleep. now, go away, leave me alone, i'm going to get some rest. i have a big day tomorrow! shh! one ellie was a shaken baby, it is hard to say. hard to say. he has had his sleep and he is with us life. us life. aaron, good morning, tell us more. mrsjustice hogg did not want to know. know. she must have been mesmerised or perhaps hoodwinked. or perhaps hoodwinked. was the bee's knees to
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ladies and she fell for it. she fell for it. square feet you, i walked for miles yesterday to put that together feel. yesterday to put that together feel. this is she would say that you looked at all the evidence at the time... everything. the evidence at the time... i don't believe her. believe her. efficient but what we care about is what goes on the plane. what goes on the plane. from blues to the kitchens and of course the seats. course the seats. is at the heart of the decision—making process. is at the heart of the decision-making process. decision-making process. i think you've a couple of examples in that piece. examples in that piece. she's lying. why would she do that. i do not know but that is important for the passenger experience. my personal belief. experience. personal belief. on a long haulflight you have to eat. you have to eat. i'm sure that she would not accept that. welcome to the would not accept that. future galley. future galley. the buzzword for airlines at the moment. ben butler in what happened to ellie? moment. yes, very much. why do you believe that she was as culpable? operate them from anywhere in the plane using an ipod or something. plane using an ipod or something. culpable? i think she is
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as cold—blooded as he them, on the long haul flight they need to be charged. is. cold—blooded as he is. need to be charged. charging points around the planes. around the planes. just pop them on that point and they go. that point and they go. court to do an assessment on both of them. them. to the loo, not glamorous but we neither of them should be left with children unaccompanied. children unaccompanied. they should needed. needed. on a long haulflight you've got always be to go. got to go. supervised. for me it's the first hour, i've got a horrible blunder. hour, i've got always be supervised. a horrible blunder. hogg disregarded that and said it was irrelevant. was irrelevant. narrower and deeper, it gives the passengers more seating space. passengers more seating space. this has to work hard. has to work hard. there are six of these in the economy section. these in the economy section. equates to 40 or 50 passengers ballou, a lot of use. ballou, a lot of use. haulflight, it a cosmetics room, changing room, baby changing room. changing room, baby changing room. children in future. when you've done your business, you wash your hands, right?
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wash your hands, right? here's the sink of the future. for those involved. digital mirror. or probably contributed to the death of ellie. destination you are going to, now you washing your hands. as far as possible, such a tragedy you washing your hands. never occurs again. i wonder what you would like to see happen now neal? happen now neal? i would like to see the law changed. down, you wash your hands and you touch the dirty bin lid. very harshly. not any more. in what respect? look about. what and almost worked first respect? time! it worked in rehearsal! it isn't now, mate, look and! toilet i showed you, 100 grand, the kitchens, 100 grand. kitchens, 100 grand. goes into keeping the passenger experience enjoyable. experience people who pay their enjoyable.
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wages, being the ratepayers. the ratepayers. the fridge, that's it from hamburg for now. for now. the way that my grand daughter was harmed. from the aircraft in tv show, the biggest in the world. harmed. biggest in the world. about the loo and now i've got to go. i'll see you later, hope you enjoy! through the same problem as ellie went with the our family. enjoy! went with the our family. i hope they have planned this thing in, fortheirsake! i hope they have planned this thing in, for their sake! my word. not like to see any child harmed any more. thank you, more. aaron. the proper training and project our children. children. bbc news from 11 o'clock, he will be with you. most beautiful thing in the world, we have to treasure them. we have to treasure them. they are our feature. our feature. place this morning. beginning of our conversation that you were trying to be positive. to all south you were trying to be positive. africans. you have been tested, haven't you. have been tested, haven't you. think i have been tested more than anyone in these last few years. anyone in these last few years. what is it that you want to do in future? is it that you want to do in
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future? the south african government and the mandela and madiba family. able to help other families and children is in some other way. children is in some other way. homicide, any support would be very much who is at the service, tell us about the atmosphere. appreciated. much appreciated. the atmosphere. thank you very much neal. thank you for talking to us. thank you for talking to us. we wish you all the best. thank you, i appreciate that. told them they only let in "mixed—sex couples". the people of south africa as they look back on the life of loo. turned away from jake's bar in leeds because look back on the life of loo. of their sexuality. a host is a stone's throw away from here. is a stone's throw away from here. the incident with its "externally supplied" door team. i spoke to patrick and jake, who told me about their night out.
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weekend away, staying in a hotel. centre. we'd never kind of been out there together before. woman described as the mother of the nation. nation. what do people say the legacy of winnie mandela is? nation. legacy of winnie mandela is7m depends who you ask, victoria. depends who you ask, victoria. majority of people praise her for couples and groups only, and basically turned being heroic at us away. a time when... words? being heroic at a time when... i think we were kind of shocked at first. harsh realities faced by black south africans. africans.
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and which side of history those people a downer on the rest of the stand on. people stand night, definitely. on. tonight," what did you think memorial service, the immediately? funeral is to come. come. mood is morejovial, songs and dancing. a time for the family to officially... literally just shock. officially... happen, i apologise, we persisted, as we always do on this programme. as we always do on this programme. bbc news and of course the funeral will take place at the weekend. will take place at the weekend. leeds. you know, it's cosmopolitan. the gay scene in leeds, so you'd expect... happening. right, yeah.
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falling all over the place? about ten o'clock. yeah, there was no queue outside or anything like that. and i hope you get fined and charged. thank you for that. we'll be back tomorrow at nine o'clock. be back tomorrow at nine o'clock. shocking policy to thank you for watching. have a good day. have. it discriminates against so many people. the manager of the bar, paul lane, he says... and this is what he says. resolve the issue. diversity policy. social factor. by an external supplier.
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team. how do you react to that? it. but early tomorrow morning overnight temperatures down to about 5—9d. temperatures down to about 5—9d. the door staff do that for you. entirely onto them. well, the next day. people basically having the same sort of eastern scotland and the north—east of. goodbye. experience as us. derogatory name by the door staff, from that review on trip advisor. developing at 11. after a un security council
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meeting ends with a russian veto. isn't acceptable really. jake, will you meet the managing director? monster over the lives of the syrian people. what they have to say. what else do you want from the managing director? grill him over his company's handling of personal information. with us the name of a hotel you stayed in last night? umm... we... laughter made to feel victimised on the street by the door staff. no(! street by the door staff. patrick hannon and jake archer. reaches the high court today. it's after the bbc reported a police raid on his home in 2014. we'll look at what the potential outcomes of the case could mean.
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lots of your reaction coming in already. think mark zuckerberg did it that well. another one. why do all businesses not have this? businesses not have this? don't post the things i don't want to be public. to be public. activity that can be allowed to continue operating. continue operating. media company doesn't appear to be acting for the public good. acting for the public good. mz should be forced to appear before our politicians in the uk. our politicians in the uk.
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better protected her from her abusive father. from sutton, who was murdered by her father. returned to his care by a judge. with ellie's grandfather neal gray a moment ago. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. back to victoria. lovely responses for ellie's grandfather neal gray. grandfather neal gray. "i am so sorry for his loss. " and another one.
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one. "i am so saddened by this story, so heartbreaking. story, so heartbreaking. her peers and i have every admiration for her grandfather. admiration for her grandfather. " another one. another one. "talking sense from the heart, this man. he deserves an mbe. " time for the sport. we will start with football. with football. of the champions league, mo salah scoring again. scoring again. a match that saw pep guardiola sent to the stands. to the stands. the draw for the semifinals takes place on friday. semifinals takes place on friday. group after a 2—1win over bosnia—herzegovina. bosnia—herzegovina. move ahead of wales in that world cup qualifying group. cup qualifying group.
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shooting to clinch their 30th medal overall. overall. silver in the synchronised three metre springboard. metre springboard. second in the medal table behind the hosts, australia. hosts, australia. that is all the sport for now. accu, victoria. the programme —— thank you and back to you, victoria. in court later today. on his home in 2014. of historic sexual abuse. cliff richard was neither arrested or charged with any offence. damages in may last year. he's now seeking substantial damages from the bbc.
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and media expert. named cliff richard when they covered this rate? yes, i think so. investigations —— carried out this raid. raid. with public figures, it is a matter of public interest. of public interest. hadn't been arrested, let alone charged? charged? the major public figure and it is important we know what is going on. important we know what is going on. further action is equally well covered and publicised. covered and publicised. in persephone bridgman bakerfrom carter ruck solicitors. carter ruck solicitors.
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to be out there at some point, as david banks has pointed out. david banks has pointed out. the bbc just got there first. just got there first. raise an interesting point about it being a public event. being a public event. doesn't necessarily deprive it of its private nature. its private nature. public event, but it was contained... contained... private investigation he should not be named in this investigation. be named in this investigation. part of the police college guidelines on policing. guidelines on policing. took place in public that does not deprive it of its private nature. deprive it of its private nature. do you accept that, david banks? you accept that, david banks? invaded by the coverage of this raid? raid? expectation of privacy in certain circumstances. circumstances. he argues this is one of them. of them. respectfully, i think we will disagree on that. will disagree on that.
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social media. person being cleared or no further action being taken by the police. action being taken by the police. do you accept that? you accept that? this week, which trumps the other —— two years of torture. two years of torture. will have on media coverage of police operations? police operations?
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around the word chilling effect, in these sorts of cases. what does that mean? mean? will be a restriction on press freedom. freedom. doing here is trying to decide where the public interest lies. the public interest lies. a little more guidance on how to publish in the future. publish in the future. arrested, let alone charged, david banks. banks. think it will have on media coverage of things like police operations? of things like police operations? it could have a very wide—ranging effect. effect.
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what you need is other corroborating witnesses. witnesses. that built a case against these defendants. defendants. potentially, by a wide—ranging judgment on this case. if that happens. happens. thank you both very much for coming on the programme. for coming on the programme. we appreciate it. 9:42am. coming up... crime in the capital. if you have a question for him to let me know. let me know.
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and that was a big mistake. and it was my mistake, and i'm sorry. 87 million facebook users? and had deleted it, we considered it a closed case. in retrospect, that was clearly a mistake. who is your biggest competitor? senator, we have a lot of competitors. who's your biggest? like it, i can buy a chevy. that i can go sign up for? well, the second category that i was going to talk about... competition you face?
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you don't think you have a monopoly? it certainly doesn't feel like that to me. 0k. you, and i say this gently. your user agreement sucks. you can figure it out. it's not to inform your users about their rights. there will always be a version of facebook that is free. pay for your service? senator, we run ads. i see. inform your advertisers? it's fully encrypted. within whatsapp, do i get a black panther banner ad?
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senator, we don't... being transferred over whatsapp. i know. mr chairman, i will have my team follow up... and i can make sure my team follows up with you... and i will have my team follow up with you... to have my team follow up... there that i don't know. by an estimated $3bn. he faces futher questions later today. following the site's data breach.
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organisation the open rights group. kostas alekoglu. and that was a big mistake," zuckerberg said. "it was my mistake, and i'm sorry. for what happens here. — how did that go down with you? matter? apology number 4573 from mark zuckerberg. mark zuckerberg. the question becomes what are you doing to change this. doing to change this. what did you think of the questions? think of the questions? not fully understand how facebook works. works. is that shocking to you that enough preparation hadn't been done? enough preparation hadn't been
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done? to its advertisers which they don't do directly through the platform. do directly through the platform. what was the worst question you heard? heard? delete the data the data is actually work from facebook systems. work from facebook systems. how do you think he did? you think he did? that as a big thing we should work on. was that enough for you.
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threaten to sue the guardian newspaper. so he knew about this. this was a pr exercise and it worked for him. for him. because the share price rose again. rose again. like me had left and had been worried about their use of data. worried about their use of data. last night and went back up so he achieved what he needed to achieve. achieved what he needed to achieve. zuckerberg sirs, i don't know the answer to that. answer to that. your facebook account but they might still have your data. still have your data.
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joined facebook so they have a lot on everyone. on everyone. sectors and missed as a cauberg said yes. do you believe him? —— mr zuckerberg said yes. zuckerberg said yes. knowingly than others, we have become a commodity. become a commodity. some of that gruelling, would you agree? agree? yes, i think the question is what kind of regulation. what kind of regulation. protection but the data breaches are the crux of the argument. the crux of the argument. happened during the democratic process. process.
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that's kind of wet we should move in that direction. can you be more specific? how would that work. to understand when they are being advertised to. advertised to. speaking to you, who endorses this video... video... all of that needs to be front and centre. front and centre. begin to understand what debate they are involved in. are involved in. back control will have to involve a lot of work on the other side. lot of work on the other side. notjust putting responsibility on the user. the user. organisations they work with, they need to take on that responsibility. need to take on
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that responsibility. what do you think is next. certainly regulation. regulation. them to offer them a product or service. service. paid— four, ad— free version of facebook? facebook? is open to everyone because they use everyone's data. everyone's data. people who joined facebook and facebook 's appeal to advertisers. facebook 's appeal to advertisers. ” believe it when i see it. believe it when i see it. why did he floated them?
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floated them? he just had to get through those two hours! through those two hours! promised the moon! fair enough. front of british politicians or are you not bothered. you not bothered. the answer, sorry, you wonder what is the point! is the point! of european obvious politicians, answering questions? answering questions? are so many europeans on the platform. platform. biggest cities in the world in terms of facebook population. of facebook population.
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data stolen or slashed although of course that has been denied. course that has been denied. you like to see him in front of politicians mafia ? you like to see him in front of politicians mafia? politicians mafia? that exemption and do something proper their data. proper their data. who is the exemption for? exemption for? and the doorstep somebody to get their data. their data. you need to get explicit consent to use it. consent to use it. process it as long as it is part of theircampaigning. process it as long as it is part of their campaigning. their campaigning. free pass to mess around like cambridge analytica. cambridge analytica. about getting people's permission. people's permission. take this seriously enough to change legislation. thank you very much.
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pain and heartache we are going through. through. you were so loved and cared about, notjust by us, by everyone. about, notjust by us, by everyone. burgle richard osborn—brooks, aged 78. 78. believed to have starred henry vincent, who died later in hospital. vincent, who died later in hospital. we still have these flowers but this is about where they stop. is about where they stop. along and tour the flowers of this half of the fence. half of the fence. occasion that the shrine has been targeted by individuals. targeted by individuals. many times these flowers were ripped off, and! off, and i think we can hearfrom them now. some.
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put them up again will you tell them down? down? i paid money for these flowers, they didn't come free. didn't come free. the incident took place is just out of shot. of shot. horse nearby waiting to see what might happen next. might happen next. feeling of tension in the area yesterday, how does it feel today? yesterday, how does it feel today? been wet overnight, i don't think family have been here today. family have been here today.
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afternoon so there could be a further development. further development. interesting that have the flowers are still up. that have the flowers are still up. family will turn up with new flowers to fill the fence once more. to fill the fence once more. thank you caroline. you caroline. way, first the weather with carol. watchers picture taken in shropshire. shropshire. the east coast of scotland and the north east coastline of england. north east coastline of england. rain from south—west england they will be a lot of cloud left behind. will be a lot of cloud left
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behind. the north and west of scotland including northern isles. including northern isles. but it is called down the north sea coastline in comparison. coastline in comparison. temperatures from four to nine as we push towards london. push towards london. and wales and eventually into northern ireland. northern ireland. some of it clippings south—eastern scotland. clippings south—eastern scotland.
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temperatures into possibly the mid—20s. thank you very much, carol. hello, it's wednesday, it's 10 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. at the un security council ended in a russian veto. monster over the lives of the syrian people. we'll hear from a doctor on the ground in douma in syria. outside an abortion clinic. i was told that it was murder. a word i will never forget. word i will never forget. and that the word that is still with me today.
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from sutton, who was murdered by her father. returned to his care by a judge. with her family, but i wouldn't like to see any child harmed at all. to see any child harmed at all. because children are the most beautiful thing in the world. beautiful thing in the world. got to treasure them, and they are our future. speaking to this
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programme. because of their sexuality. the incident with its "externally supplied" door team. patrick and jake have been telling victoria about what happened. because of what i identify as before. so it was literally just shock. away that it kind of sank in. in a city like leeds. it's cosmopolitan. is cosmopolitan. leeds, that's kind of the last place you would expect it to be happening. gets underway for the anti—apartheid activist. these are the live pictures
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from the event. of people are massing at the stadium for the event. all ahead of her funeral on saturday. winnie mandela died on 1st april after a long illness. 30. thank you very much. because they were told, "it's only mixed couples tonight. mixed couples tonight. policy on the door and they are investigating. investigating. wearing army staff, any reason, just let me know.
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let me know. text you will be charged at the standard network rate. standard network rate. goal post, actually across all the commonwealth games. commonwealth games. what has happened now? happened now? the water but i have to be careful because i have this sandy park on. because i have this sandy park on. congratulations to all of you. i didn't see this that! sorry about that! that has given them all a good laugh. laugh. getting in a swimming pool in future, 0k? getting in a swimming pool in future, ok? future, ok? i hope you can still hear me. can you continue, sarah? medal than me following in the water. water. all the people watching me here are literally on the floor... here are literally on the floor... i am, but you don't have to... congratulations.
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mike, i'm sorry, but i do love that. but i do love that. the guy, one along, he could not stop laughing. along, he could not stop laughing. are you 0k? impressed i carried on speaking when in the water. in the water. pool even though they were of course medal winning swimmers. i'm fine! just my dignity and pride. been seen by people from hong kong to you require online! to you require online! anyway, moving on. moving on. guaranteed of 32 medals —— from hong kong to uruguay. kong to uruguay. because the are all through to the semifinals. semifinals.
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the double range shooting, are civil engineering student. engineering student. their target and also that previous overseas record. overseas record. from that shooting in which david mcmath won bald. mcmath won bald. silver, and i know they craving that first medal. first medal. silver in the diving pool, nothing to do with you! pool, nothing to do with you! much more graceful than my entry into the pool. into the pool.
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january —— tom latham not getting his individual title. his individual title. didn't it pay off with that silver medal? medal? games liverpool have reached the last format of the champions league. last format of the champions league. congratulations to them. absolutely. will be really scared of facing liverpool. liverpool. can stop them with barcelona as well. well. city, so cruised through the tie 5—1 on aggregate. on aggregate. first minute giving city hope of getting back into the tie. getting back into the tie. firmino took them through, 2—1 on the night and 5—1 overall. the night and 5—1 overall. progress they are making under jurgen klopp. jurgen klopp.
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even real madrid will want to face them now in the last format. them now in the last format. mike bushell, thank you, from the gold coast. which has seen over 50 murders in the capital. here's how the programme ended. i hearyou, i hearyou. 0k, we're going to work together, all right? you are not on your own — we are going to work together. listen, we are going to do this. can we just stand? we are going to make it unified. enough. rasta no work with police, though. no, shush! we stand together. against violence.
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united, we stand. back our young people. we have a zero—tolerance message for violence. we are talking to our community members, join with us. that's right, stand up. it's time to work. strong as one voice. unity, together. and education is the key. going to the front line. we're not hiding, we are saying, our children, we need to save them. all parents of my age group need to step up and step out. but right now we need the whole community to save our children. because that money can't buy them the love that they need.
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let's come together and save them. we need to take control back of our children. talking powerfully... will pause and thank you all very much. much. thank you so much for coming on the programme. that was on monday. we can talk to labour's london mayor sadiq khan now. thank you so much forjoining us, mr khan. khan. you couldn't see that but you could probably hear it. could probably hear it. people are fed up of talking. fed up of talking. there has been a lot of talking. lot of talking. yesterday what are you as the london mayor going to do? mayor going to do? violent crime happening in the first place. place. causes but we also need targeted police work as well. police work as well.
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differences between politicians from different parties. different parties. the issues you programme spoke about on monday. on monday. sure people feel safe when they go about their business in london. about their business in london. amount of money that goes to policing in london? policing in london? because you control that budget. control that budget. government, 80%, and we have seen big cuts over the last eight years. big cuts over the last eight years.
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personal responsibility for what is happening on the streets of london? happening on the streets of london? yes, i am the mayor, of course. yes, lam the mayor, of course. i met a bereaved father yesterday. met a bereaved father yesterday. london and the parents so of course i understand how people feel. i understand how people feel. teenagers last week lost their lives due to gun crime. due to gun
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crime. shocks london people as it showed that people are dying unnecessarily. that people are dying unnecessarily. without a text message from one of our viewers. they don't leave name. homelessness and violence and theft like we have not seen in. like we have not seen in. let me answer about directly victoria. answer about directly victoria. just in london but across england and wales. and wales. police forces have reported that serious violent crime is going up. serious violent crime is going up. these are national problem is that demand national solutions. demand national solutions.
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seen in their communities in the last few years. last few years. increased by 42%, knife crime by 2496. increased by 42%, knife crime by 24%. that was in your first year. is not going up as fast as crime across the country. it is a fact. knife crime is roughly speaking the same in london... same in london... resources for policing but also for education. education.
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similar amount and these are the consequences. consequences. office civil servants, notjust my word. word. more about the reduction in police numbers. wait a minute. police numbers were rising, and so was the number of youth workers. was the number of youth workers. responsibility for crime rests with the criminals. the criminals. should think it is ok or cool to carry a knife. carry a knife. between police numbers being cut and crime going up. crime going up.
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causes that have police workers as well. well. pleased that the home secretary is working with us as well. working with us as well. she can knock heads together. knock heads together. knocked together to invest in mental health work. health work. schools, we can make them safe places so young people. places so young people. about making sure that young people are resilient. are resilient. it blocks government heads together to... ..
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police numbers and the upsurge in violent crime. violent crime. and you say you can't ignore that. she can't have it both ways! ways! i know, reported that on monday and she still rejects it. monday and she still rejects it. when you have such a fundamental difference? difference? those of the moment and work on things we agree with. things we agree with. prevention work and i am pleased that she will lead this task force. that she will lead this task force. it needs government leadership in scotland. scotland.
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working together is that you can pool your resources. pool your resources. working in silos, you can get more of your money. of your money. relation to local authorities and central government. central government. you can also invest in prevention. invest in prevention. i'll give you one example. one example. fewer youth places for young people in london. in london. facilities we can make sure young people have good things to do. people have good things to do. for education, it's worth investing in young people. in young people. in a place with a stabbing happened which leads to reprisals. which leads to reprisals.
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saying to social media companies, take—down of these youtube videos. take—down of these youtube videos. central government and we need to work together. work together. do you know people yourself who have ended up in gangs. yes. what has happened to them? 47 now but when i was younger many of my school friends were in gangs. of my school friends were in gangs. big brothers and role models and i didn't go down that path. didn't go down that path. their potential, they got involved in criminality and other issues. in criminality and other issues. and bumping into an old schoolmate in prison. in prison. he was on the other side of the cage to me. of the cage to me.
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criminality, you can understand why someone takes that short cut. someone takes that short cut. get to the enforcement part which sadly the police still have to do. sadly the police still have to do. something you are losing sleep over at the moment? at the moment? of course it causes me concern at night. me concern at night. i lose sleep over security all the time. over security all the time. terrorism is a big threat. threat level is still severe. level is still severe. to knife or gun crime it causes me concern. to knife or gun crime it
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causes me concern. concern. lost their life, a parent of teenagers. of course it's personal. still visit regularly, i could have... have... losing their lives, or getting into crime. thank you for talking to us. we appreciate you giving up your time. sadiq khan, mayor of london. in response to an alleged chemical attack in syria.
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responsibility" for any "illegal military adventure" it carries out. to target those responsible for the attack in douma. so where could all this lead? in military action against president assad's government? and should mps here be given a say first? syria in the past, and the stop the war coaltion. attack in douma. is distressing.
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