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couple of other stories to let a couple of other stories to let that. let us turn to the observer, the local elections here. the observer is saying that tories are ina new observer is saying that tories are in a new race row over identity checks for elections. we knew that they were going to trial this, so we would have to bring a piece of id before you were able to vote which has not happened before. the equality and human rights commission are worried about this and they have written to david liddington at the cabinet office and said, we think this would disproportionately affect people and they are suggesting here, there could be a bit of a racism row coming from it. i do think, it is a trial and it is a trial at the local elections next month and i think it is worth giving it a go. it seems that there have been too many exa m ples of that there have been too many examples of electoral fraud, it is not a widespread thing, but the idea of proving your identity when you arrive at the polling station does
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not sound like such a bad idea. lot of people would scream it they do not have that kind of thing. postal vote is too late for these elections. presumably, one would hope although no guarantee, but one would hope that in the areas where it is going to be trialled, that people will have been told. as a principle, it does not seem to be a bad idea. the suggestion here is that it would be a number of those ethnic minority groups who might not have the right kind of id and might then feel that they are being disenfranchised. it may well be but unfortunately we do not have the re st of unfortunately we do not have the rest of the story, so it is not clear what areas, but we know tower hamlets was at the centre of the most appalling electoral irregularities. there has been evidence of caution, if you like, within certain communities, particularly amongst women who do not speak very good english, where
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they are basically told, vote for this person and this person, without them actually knowing and that has been documented. actually, it is far better that we have a robust democracy, but what people are being asked to take along with them, we do not know. but they would have their ca rd not know. but they would have their card anyway. if we got to the fourth page, we might know! in another hour, maybe. one more newspaper to look at. the big wedding. gosh. weddings are always a bit of a nightmare and a minefield for families, who do you invite, who gets to sit next to whom? megan mark's uncle is not happy. i suspect that anyone who has ever planned a wedding, being invited or not will know exactly, you cannot please everyone. what i think is interesting, there has been quite a lot of cove rage interesting, there has been quite a lot of coverage of mega— morkel's
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apparently disjointed, apparently disjointed family, i do not suppose herfamily is any disjointed family, i do not suppose her family is any worse than the re st of her family is any worse than the rest of us —— meghan markle. what is interesting is that there is a different way of reporting that that sort of deference has gone, frankly, who cares? for the people who are reporting on it, they are not being quite so forelock tugging. reporting on it, they are not being quite so forelock tuggingm reporting on it, they are not being quite so forelock tugging. it is interesting, the way that meghan markle is being seen as someone who is going to perhaps help change the way that the royal family is seen, modernise it somewhat. she will continue to speak her mind. yes, good on her, she will get into a lot of trouble for doing it but the more she does it, the more she can engage with the people. i'm not sure i care who comes to their wedding, but i do
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hope they have a great day and if she would rather her family were not there, and another lot of able would rather the family were not at the weddings, then good luck to her. we will have to leave it there. thank you very much indeed. that is it for us. you very much indeed. that is it for us. we will be back at half past i! for another look at the papers, but next it is meet the third. at a contemporary crime writer takes on one of the great stories of ambition and revenge. jo nesbo's macbeth has as its central character a policeman, not a warrior who nonetheless martyrs his way to the top. listening of course to the siren voices of which is on the way, drugged up prostitutes and being egged on by his wife in his retelling of the story known simply as lady. he ushers at a time of bloody chaos and this is hardly a plus for the because it is macbeth.
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to his own distraction. it's one of eight re—writings of the plays in the hogarth shakespeare series. jo nesbo rewrites the bard. welcome. was it scary to take on a story like this that everyone knows? not really, because where i come from people don't, well they know the story but it's not like in the uk where you read shakespeare in school. we read henry gibson in school. my relationship was not so much to shakespeare as it was to macbeth because i saw the movie when i was in my early teens.
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i was so fascinated by the story that i would actually go and get the written edition of the play in english at the age of 13 or 14, i didn't understand one sentence. the power of the story is so visceral, it is such an elemental story that just draws you on. you are expressing their with the imagination does with this tale. for me it was the first time that i had come across a story where you are sort of manipulated by the storyteller to sympathise with what seems to be the protagonist of the story and then suddenly a few minutes later you are caught on the wrong side, the dark side and you are sort of forced into trying to understand and sympathise with the villain. you kept it in scotland. one of the ways you get us into this
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world is a fantastic description of a drugs bust that goes wrong at the beginning. it strikes me that's the kind of thing you just love, the thing thatjust explodes all over the page. the play is fast—paced and so is the book. it needs to be. it is set, it could be set in scotland, i use the scottish names. you just say at the northern city. it's more newcastle in the 70s and get carter with michael caine. did you struggle with working in the names? but which is within underworld figures. you had to have duncan. did that bother you 7 there were a few too many macs for norwegian taste and so mcduff was the only named shortened. let's talk about what makes a good
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crime thriller of the kind that you write. what is the secret of that genre? what keeps you going in it? the big difference between the series is that the harry hold series is who did it crime mysteries and macbeth is a why did they do it mystery. then again, the protagonist, the heroes of the story are similar. half protagonists and half antagonists. while harry is flirting with the dark side of macbeth is taking the full step into the dark side. the thing about harry as a policeman is that he does everything he can to put you off, he is pretty unpleasant. his relationships are all over the place, he's a drunk
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and all sorts of things. yet we like him. why do we like him? i think because we can relate to his sins. it's him being and making the wrong moral choices are more intriguing and interesting to us than him of making the right moral choices and he will do both. there's a read over to macbeth there. however monstrous his behaviour is, and he perpetrates a terrible deed, his wife is no more attractive in this book than she is in the play as a character anyway. and yet we have got a sneaking understanding of why he does it. that is why people keep coming back to macbeth. they, like you said, it's really fast—paced and things happen and it's an action story and even though they have these monologues you still have to find the answers.
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there are many people standing on that edge and looking at an opportunity that they will not grab. they have to cross that moral line. macbeth does and although there are suggestions in the text of why he does it, still it's the question you have to come up with the answer for yourself. will people believe that he can go just like that to murder of a king from the prophecy and the belief and ambition? we know that some people do and that's why we believe in him. we know it's possible. however horrible. in the play when macbeth is presented with the prophecy the instinct thing is his reaction that he will be stunned
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and almost scared. it's as if he already cannot point can see himself becoming a murderer because of the prophecy. in my novel it's a little bit different, i have stuck more or less very loyal to the play. not out of loyalty but realised there's a reason why it's a classic. we really can't change it. it's a beautiful construction. he strikes a deal with the three witches which in the novel is not a supernatural element, but they are wary. they're definitely on the dark side. they are striking a deal with macbeth that if he kills duncan he will himself become the chief of police. in a way it's more understandable. still at the start of the story. loyal to duncan and he's a protagonists. you believe that he's the defender
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of good causes that he is sort of an idealist and what he is doing both in the play and the story is using the rhetoric to convince himself that it's the right thing to do. once you have a character who works, then everything else follows and has else follows and it has got to be that way around him and not the plot that throws up a character who happens to be good. you find the right character and move away. the stories are not about murders or thrones, they are about people, real people like you and i making moral decisions. and conflict within that character. that is what i've been writing about since i started and that is very much at the core of the story of macbeth and that is why when i was asked can you write a novel based on the shakespeare play
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i said i can't write any play but if you give me macbeth i would definitely do it. jo nesbo, thank you very much. hello. we have seen torrential thunderstorms developing. they are drifting north and east through the night. it will not affect everyone but when you see them, some storms, lightning as well. in the west it has been quieter to start the night but we will see wet weather in northern ireland and the west of scotla nd northern ireland and the west of scotland later bring in a big change to our weather as we move into next week but by the end of the night, 17 degrees in aberdeenshire and 11! in the south—east. here we go with sunday, some brighter weather to
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begin once the overnight showers are cleared to be east. sunshine will continue in the south—east but as temperatures rise, heavy showers will develop. wetter weather in northern ireland. outbreaks of rain in the west of england and wales cleared for sunshine as the cold front works east and the temperature differential, 13 about fast in the afternoon, 22 or 23 in london and norwich but the fresh air will wind out and were typical spring weather next week. this is bbc news. the headlines at 11. kim jong—un has not committed to giving up the weapons he has, but the un has expressed hope for the future. i believe in north korea the path is open for the peaceful denuclearisation of the korean peninsula. and it also proves that diplomacy is the way to solve complex, not war. the first minister of wales, carwynjones, will leave his post in the autumn. two weeks after the suspected chemical attack in syria, international experts conduct
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