hello. it's tuesday, it's 9 o'clock. i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. our top story today: detectives in the canadian city of toronto are questioning a 25—year—old van driver who's suspected of killing ten people by deliberately running them over. hejust went on he just went on the sidewalk and started hitting everybody, man. he hit every person on the sidewalk, everybody he could hit. ijust stopped and i looked, and all i see is this crumbling, one by one, one by one. police say they don't know the suspect‘s motives. we'll be live in toronto. also on the programme, horses are being dumped, fly—tipped and left to die by irresponsible owners. the rpsca tell us exclusively they had to rescue a thousand horses last year, the highest number forfouryears, including in circumstances like this. one of the strangest locations we rescued a shetland pony from was somebody‘s flat? rescued a shetland pony from was somebody's flat? in their flat. in

their flat, somebody's flat? in their flat. in theirflat, on the 19th somebody's flat? in their flat. in their flat, on the 19th floor in london. we'll hear how horses being sold cheaply online is leading to a rise in cruelty towards them. and we'll hear claims that parents are being investigated for possible child abuse because of the misinterpretation of guidelines on bruising in babies. if this puts into people's minds even just if this puts into people's minds evenjust a if this puts into people's minds even just a hesitation of taking their child to the doctor, there is a real chance that sooner or later some child will die. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11. through the morning we'll bring you the latest breaking news and developing stories. a little later we'll hear from the dad of alfie evans, who says his son has been breathing unassisted since his life support machine was switched off last night. 23—month—old alfie has been at the centre of a fight between his parents and medics over his treatment. he's in a semi—vegetative state

and has a degenerative neurological condition doctors had not definitively diagnosed. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning. use the hashtag #victorialive. and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today. ten people have been killed and 15 others injured when a van was driven into pedestrians on a busy street in toronto. the suspect has been named as 25 year—old alek minassian. he was arrested shortly after the attack. canadian police say they don't know the motive, but so far have not ruled out terrorism. our north america correspondent nada tawfik reports. what began as a sunny, lovely afternoon in the north york area of toronto in an instant turned to chaos and carnage. along this main thoroughfare, a white rental van sped down the roadway,

jumping the kerb in several places and hitting anything in its path for roughly one mile. those who were spared injury described the horror that unfolded. all i've seen is this guy, he is going 70, guy, he is going 70, 80 clicks, he's just hitting people one by one, going down. oh, man. it was a nightmare, man. 90 minutes later and several blocks away, police stopped the driver. in a dramatic confrontation, he yelled for the officers to shoot him in the head to kill him. bystanders captured the tense moments as he was arrested without a single shot fired. police have identified the driver as 25—year—old alek minassian, a resident of the toronto suburb of richmond hill. they believe this was a deliberate attack. the events that happened on the streets behind us are horrendous, but they do not appear to be connected in anyway to national security based on the information available at this time.

police have begun the long process of combing through this crime scene, and while there have been a string of similar vehicle attacks in europe and more recently in new york, investigators here believe that there is as yet no evidence to connect the driver to any organised terror group. still they have yet to answer the key question. what was the motive? we will talk more about that later on in the programme. carole walker is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. thank you, good morning. the father of seriously ill toddler alfie evans has said that his son has been breathing unassisted since his life support machine was switched off last night. alder hey hospital has yet to comment. a high courtjudge dismissed fresh submissions from lawyers representing alfie's parents, after the toddler was granted italian citizenship in the hope he could travel there for treatment. this morning alfie's father, tom evans, said his son had been breathing without a ventilator

for nine hours, although doctors had given some oxygen. nine hours alfie's been breathing, his still breathing now. it's come to a point where his mum is actually sleeping next to him so she can actually go to sleep. she feels comfortable with him. we did check his sats, and his sats aren't his best, they're sitting below 70, because he's working. labour leaderjeremy corbyn will meet leaders from the jewish community later today, to assure them that he's tackling anti—semitism within the party. he has already apologised for the pain caused by the allegations made. the board of deputies of britishjews and thejewish leadership council will urge mr corbyn to take "strong and consistent" action. unwanted horses are being fly—tipped and left to die by irresponsible owners, the rspca has told this programme. the charity said it was regularly being called out to help animals dumped by their owners and had rescued 1,000 horses in england and wales last year.

it said prosecution cases involving horses had risen by 25% since 2015. the uk's biggest network of food banks says it issued a record 1.3 million emergency supplies last year. the trussell trust says the 13% increase on the previous year has been driven by those on benefits not being able to afford basic essentials. the government has rejected any link between the benefits system and demand for emergency food. parents are being investigated for possible child abuse because of the misinterpretation of guidelines on bruising in babies, this programme has been told. research by the university of central lancashire suggested that the official guidelines are resulting in social services investigating parents too often. it found that more than a quarter of babies are bruised accidentally. the health watchdog nice said its original advice was aimed at medical professionals working

in hospitals and new guidance aimed at social workers and teachers had been released. former us president george bush senior is being treated in hospital, having fallen ill the day after his wife barbara's funeral. mr bush, who was president from 1989 to 1993, was admitted to hospital in houston on sunday. the 93—year—old has an infection which spread to his blood but he is responding to treatment, according to his office. a 17—year—old girl has been arrested after two teenage girls were stabbed in the west kensington area of london. in a separate incident, an 18—year—old man has been stabbed during a street fight in woolwich in east london. it happened just after seven o'clock yesterday evening outside woolwich arsenal station. more than £80,000 has been raised in a sponsorship fund set up by a 29—year—old runner who died in the london marathon.

matt campbell, who appeared in masterchef: the professionals last year, collapsed after 22 miles in the race. he was running in memory of his late father. the first statue of a woman in parliament square is being unveiled today. the bronze cast commemorates the life of millicent fawcett, who fought for women's suffrage a century ago. it's endorsed by the mayor of london sadiq khan, following a two year petition by campaigner caroline criado—perez. gun salutes will ring out across london later today in celebration of the safe arrival of a new royal prince. the duke and duchess of cambridge's third child was born yesterday morning at st mary's hospital in the capital, and the family have now returned home to kensington palace. gun salutes will take place in hyde park and at tower wharf on the south bank of the thames from two o'clock this afternoon. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 9.30.

thank you very much, carole. in a few minutes' time we will be showing you our film few minutes' time we will be showing you ourfilm on the rise in cruelty cases towards horses. we have exclusive footage from the rspca which is pretty distressing, pretty shocking, on some of the horses they found in horrific conditions that they have managed to rescue, so do stay with us for that. glyn on facebook says that horse owners should be fully vetted and aware of the maintenance and disposal costs. emma says until the law changes, animal abuse will continue to flourish. there is no real deterrent. and sue says, what is wrong with some people? winded so many people become so unfeeling and uncaring, and how do they live with themselves? tougher sentences are definitely a must. the film in a few minutes, and before that the sport. let's start with football and a huge champions league night for liverpool.

yes indeed, and a huge night for this man, mohamed salah, facing his old club, roma, for the first time since last summer, and he really has become the man of the moment in england and across europe, scoring 41 goals in all, dishes this season. he is the leading scorer in the premier league and in all the european leagues, tambien, two more goals under certain lionel messi will be hoping for more of these from their main man tonight. they host roma in the first leg of their champions league semifinal. he has been warned not to accept friendly treatment from his opposition, and jurgen klopp is happy to be back making it through. we both have the chance to get through to the final, thatis chance to get through to the final, that is all i need. people talk about pressure, or whatever. or that is all i need. people talk about pressure, orwhatever. ora once—in—a—lifetime chance, i have

heard before. it is not like that. evenif heard before. it is not like that. even if i go to the finals, it is the second time in my life, it is possible, and that is nice. if it is possible, and that is nice. if it is possible, let's trevor breen to do it. and his sides are very much the favourites but a night's match. and the teams have history? that is perhaps why liverpool are favourites. the most famous time they met was in the 1984 final of they met was in the 1984 final of the european cup, and that game went to penalties. the liverpool fans will remember perhaps goalkeeper bruce grobbelaar‘s theatrics in goal, and that was the inspiration many years later for a keeperjerzy dudekin many years later for a keeperjerzy dudek in that 2005 final. they also w011 dudek in that 2005 final. they also won their 2004 uefa cup final, michael owen scoring twice for a 2—0 win in italy, and they held on despite losing the second leg at anfield1—0. and a year later,

liverpool hosted rome in the champions league second group stage, needing to win by two goals to go through, it was such an emotional moment because liverpool manager gerard houllier had been rushed to hospital five months earlier with a heart problem, came back to anfield for the first time, took his place in the dugout and there was an electric reception from the kop, which inspired them to another win. so will we see another famous european night at anfield tonight? we will see. and last night, wonderful use of technology in a football match, and we never say that, hardly ever. i know. a wonderful use of technology. . liverpool beat rivals everton1—0, but there was a lovely moment froth 14—year—old everton fan, jack mclinden suffers from multiple illnesses which means he can't get to matches, but he was able to fulfil his dream of being a mascot with the help of a robot. that was

everton captain philjagielka carrying the robot onto the pitch, and this is what jack is seeing back at home, panorama live images and sound as well coming through the tablet, and there is a microphone on it which meant that he could even chat to the players in the tunnel ahead of the game. absolutely inspirational stuff, isn't it? absolutely brilliant. thank you very much. more on that throughout the morning. cruelty to horses is on the rise in this country. why? according to the rspca, horses are being dumped, fly—tipped with rubbish and left to die by irresponsible owners. figures gathered by the animal welfare charity reveal they rescued almost 1,000 horses last year — the highest number in four years. the rspca describes that as "appalling", adding that prosecutions have gone up by 25% in 2015. this exclusive film you're about to see contains some graphic and distressing images of animal cruelty and dead horses, and you might not want

children to watch. horses like these are being dumped across britain in the most horrific conditions. it took five people to try to get him up. when a horse goes down, it's the end. we've been given shocking footage of dying and dead horses — some of it too graphic to show. we've gone out to calls and not been able to see the horse until we've literally rifled through the rubbish. so, why are so many horses being left for dead by their owners? the rspca say 908 horses were rescued in 2017. the rspca say 980 horses were rescued in 2017. that's the highest number in four years. we've been given exclusive access to a private stables that nurses those horses back to health.

i'm going to show you to a couple of horses that have recently come into oui’ care. this is adi. hello, mate. would you like to come in and meet him? i would, i would. come in. this is rspca chief inspector sam garvey. he was found by a member of the public, collapsed on a footpath. he had clearly been exhausted, and was in a collapsed state, covered in mud. it took five people to try to get him up. but it was very touch and go. when a horse goes down, it's the end. so, you have to put a lot of hard work, time and effort in to get them back onto their feet. he took several weeks, actually, to get up. every time he went down, he was so weak, he struggled to get back up. so, when he was moved to this facility, it took people every day to come and help him to get back onto his feet, until he could learn to do it again himself. and he's a handsome boy, isn't he? he's very handsome. and he's become very trusting and very loving, which is lovely to see.

hopefully he'll go on to get the loving home that he deserves. shall we take him out for a... little walk? some fresh air? yeah, yeah, yeah. it's not clear who left adi on the footpath. it is thought he'd become ill, so his owner had dumped him there to die. stories like adi's are increasingly common. can you talk me through some of the different scenarios where you have found an abandoned horse? i've dealt with a mare that was trying to give birth, that had been dumped at the side of a field. she was clearly in distress, giving birth, and needed veterinary attention, which would have cost a lot of money. i see. so they tied her to the post and left her. when we got there, both herself and the foal had passed away. it was utterly heartbreaking. we have horses literally dumped down dirt tracks, along with the rubbish. so they've taken their rubbish out to fly—tip the rubbish, and at the same time, took the sick and injured horse along with it. and we've gone out to calls and not been able to see the horse until we've literally rifled through the rubbish and found the horse. but the circumstances can range from the horrific to the bizarre.

one of the strangest locations that we rescued a shetland pony from was actually somebody's flat. in theirflat? in their flat. 19th floor, in london. wow! first of all i was thinking, one, this can't be true. secondly, how do you get a shetland pony onto the 19th floor of a flat? it turns out via the lift. when i opened the lift, there was evidence of shetland pony poo. so i thought, this is actually true. up to the 19th floor i went, to be greeted by a shetland pony in the lady's living room. what was the — how old was this woman? she was in her late 405, 50s. and she just said it was very cute. what's going on, then, that meant that last year the rspca rescued and looked after more horses than in the last four years? i was only looking the other day, actually come on the internet. and ifound horses for sale before actually cheaper to buy than a kitten. so there were horses

as cheap as £25. horses for free. people doing buy one, get one free. so by the mare and get the foal for free. are you joking? no. that is horrifying to read. it's not as simple as just buying them for £50 and thinking that they are self—sufficient, because that's not the case at all. talk me through the kind of money that you could spend on a horse when you needed to call a vet, for example castrating ? that costs, what? £200, £300? about £350. so, for a young male horse like adi, to get him castrated, so that he is no longer a stallion, is about £350. and then obviously that's within mind that that's all going to go well and he'll heal properly. simple things that people forget, such as worming. and often we find with horses if they are not insured, you can one dayjust find a horse is down, something as simple as a bellyache, which we know as colic. a procedure like that can cost you £4,000 or £5,000. really! ? yes, so you might be faced with a £25, £50 horse that you bought, and then a £4,000, £5,000 vet bill

if they're not insured. he gets very excited when he thinks he's going out, especially if he knows his friends will be out there waiting for him. it's pretty difficult for the rspca to investigate irresponsible horse owners. unlike dogs and cats, where you can actually pin them to an owner, with our equines, because they are more often than not in a field, or they've been dumped, like adi was, the side of a road or a footpath, we really don't know their background or the history. so we very rarely get to know what their story was and how that even came about. despite those challenges, prosecution cases involving horses have gone up by 25% since 2015. so, we've introduced you to adi. he was rescued on new year's eve, so you can see what incredible progress he has made in, what, three and a half, four months? i want to introduce you now to swampy, who was rescued in pretty horrific circumstances. and this is loni.

hi. and this, of course, is swampy? poor swampy, he's had a bit of a perilous time, really. he was up to his neck and water in a really deep ditch, in february time. so, really cold, and was really struggling to stay warm and couldn't get out of the ditch. up to here? the water is up to here? right up to his neck, yes. so, there was obviously a danger of him becoming submerged in the water. and it took quite a bit team of people to pull him out of the ditch. so, up to here? right up to his neck. if you hadn't been called, fire and rescue hadn't been called, what would have happened to swampy? it's likely he would have died. he would have drowned? yes. would either have died from the cold, and then obviously submerged under the water, so it could have been really horrible for him. absolutely exhausted! swampy is on the mend, but he's not yet well enough to go back out into the fields. incredibly, we've been told we can't reveal the location of the stables were filming at.

he's still potentially at risk of irresponsible owners. a lot of these horses are dumped because they need medical attention. of course, we provide that, we nurse them back to health. we have had a lot of cases where owners have come and try to steal them back. so we have to be really, really careful to make sure the horses are safe, and that they're secure in a private environment. and what do you think of someone who would do that? i find it appalling. i can't get my head around why somebody would, a, do that to a horse, and then, b, try to put them in that situation again. what do you say to somebody who might have bought a horse cheaply, with all the right intentions, and actually they find it impossible to afford to look after the horse properly? what should they do? i think the first thing to do is to seek some professional advice. there are a lot of equine professionals. who from? either from local instructors, or from charities, seek some advice first. i think people are often quite unwilling to say it, or they can't see what's happening until it really gets to a point where they can't cope.

over 175 horses the rspca has rescued are now ready for re—homing, waiting for new and responsible owners. they can be found on the charity's website, and you'll find adi and swampy on there, too. your comments. one viewer says this is absolutely disgusting. how can people do these things? another viewer said thank you for covering this, the load on the rspca is extreme. horses dumped by their owners and left to die? you see them everywhere, what can we do? maybe

involve schools and sponsorship. let's now talk with neil parish — conservative mp and chair of parliament's environment, food and rural affairs committee; nic de brauwere, head of welfare and behaviour at redwings horse sanctuary and chair of the national equine welfare council which comes up with the standards of care which must be met with horses , and chris shaw who is a world horse welfare field officer — and has worked in horse welfare for 13 years. thank you all for coming on the programme but firstly, how do you educate someone that it's not ok to have a shetland pony on a 19th floor flat? some people don't realise the responsibility, they don't understand that ponies like space, like an area to graze, likes really

good food. i think we are failing to get that message over, that buying the horse is probably the easy part, looking after the horse, the pony, is the big rubble and the whole idea ofa is the big rubble and the whole idea of a national database is to try and get the ponies and horses micro—chipped and then we can actually link them to the owners as well, the charity and charities do a great work but if people are struggling it would be much better if they went to the charity in the first place and admitted they are having problems. ithink first place and admitted they are having problems. i think sometimes they let it go too far. then the p°ny they let it go too far. then the ponyis they let it go too far. then the pony is full of worms and its ill, and in such poor condition and they are worried about being prosecuted, the whole thing falls apart. responsible owners are not going to get the horse microchip, are they?” think for us the challenge is to separate the responsible from the responsible. often we jump to labels of this community is irresponsible with their horses but we have done a

lot of engagement with people and i think that is the secret for us. as professional people, that is, well for officers, we know about the horses but what we don't know more about us the people behind the horses, find out their motivation and their struggles, it usually unlocks the door to the solutions as to why the solutions, and horses are being looked after in that way. as it often the cost, they can't afford it often the cost, they can't afford it and they did not get insurance? it varies, there are people who get an impulse and diving before they think, goes across all species of animals, people want the commodity which is the pet that looks cute, then regret it later but i think there are people who see it as an opportunity for making money and to exploit it. there are people who get in to help realise they are overwhelmed and this sadly, we see a lot of serious mental health problems behind people we have to investigate, it's quite clear it's actually yawned, they can't even have a rational conversation and you are looking at a completely

different situation. chris, what cases have you come different situation. chris, what cases have you come across different situation. chris, what cases have you come across and do you agree with the rspca that the figures of cruelty to forces are on the rise? i would definitely agree, i'm busierthan i've the rise? i would definitely agree, i'm busier than i've ever been, my job gets busier every year, particularly the last four years have been quite horrendous with some situations i have seen. a lot of horses you know, i've had horses dumped, set on fire when they are alive, starved to death, horsesjust been put in place is that they really should not be put and getting injured because of the environment they are in. some of those acts are deliberate? i would say it'sjust down to sheer irresponsibility, they don't think... setting a horse on fire? that is different, then you have people who do that in that particular circumstance, the horse was emaciated and the owner needed to get rid of it cos he was scared of getting into trouble, he thought the best way to do that was to set

it on fire and he tried to down violet was still alive and i had to go and do nothing but luckily, that particular horse was micro—chipped to the owner for once, i was able to find someone responsible for what they have done. were they prosecuted? they they have done. were they prosecuted ? they we ren't, they have done. were they prosecuted? they weren't, there was a lot of other things going on and it was a real shame, i did everything i could to get that person prosecuted and we removed all the horses from their care. michael gove the environment secretary has increased the previous six—month sentence for cruelty to animals, people who abuse animals will now face up to five years in prison, what difference will that make?” think there is different types of offe nces think there is different types of offences under think in the horse world we tend to see more neglect than deliberate cruelty. if we can bring the microchips together with the animal welfare act you can find the animal welfare act you can find the owner and put them in front of the owner and put them in front of the court, that is a deterrent when people believe they can get caught,

at the moment the chance of getting caught is a remote people don't even think sentencing but once the rest of their life comes under scrutiny and the other things they might be up and the other things they might be up to start is to get challenge that in itself will be a bigger step than sentencing but i think prosecution is always very useful to take animals from someone who will not stop for any other reason. also it sends a bit of a message out that the bubbly overtime sets the pattern of behaviour that society will tolerate and another way i think it will be useful. neil, there is a message from someone who says micro—chipping should be compulsory. i think that's a route we could go down. what would have to happen before... you would have to probably through a statutory instrument and parliament put that into legislation andi parliament put that into legislation and i think it would be linked to the animal welfare act. it's about making sure people are responsible and as we've been talking, we've got to try and reduce the numbers that are bred on places like the new

forest, bobby moore, dartmoor, there are too many horses, if we can have stallions gelded, make sure we don't breed as many, the problem we have is we have a lot of ponies and horses out there and no real market for them. it's that people are buying them and not realising what it is all about. we have those who cannot understand how to look after a horse and you have those who are trying to make money and can be really very cruel in the process. those have got to be dealt with really severely and i think the extra sentencing will send a message but we have to link the horse to the owner. i am very happy to do that. i ama owner. i am very happy to do that. i am a scrutiny not government, i take on board what all the charities do, not just the on board what all the charities do, notjust the rspca, it's great we have charities and we must listen to

them as well and see where we can actually make a real difference because i know john actually make a real difference because i knowjohn gardner, the animal welfare minister is really keen visiting the moors to try and reduce the horse population so that we have quality horses and fewer of them. it is already a requirement to microchip all horses born after 2009, and a lot of the work charities are doing is finding communities and donors where they haven't done that and an amnesty situation. but with the new database, one situation. but with the new data base, one of situation. but with the new database, one of the regulations thatis database, one of the regulations that is meant to come through, and that is meant to come through, and thatis that is meant to come through, and that is on the table to happen, that they will be compulsory retrospective microchip in as well, so we retrospective microchip in as well, so we will go round all the owners that didn't need to previously microchip their horses and require them to do it, and probably work on that. and wide you think there is a rise in cruelty to horses?” that. and wide you think there is a rise in cruelty to horses? i think it is down to indiscriminate breeding. a lot of people are leaving horses with mayors and

stallions together, constantly producing foles every year, and the country isjust producing foles every year, and the country is just flooded with these horses, and there is simply more horses, and there is simply more horses than there are good homes, and we need that to stop. and a very wet winter and very high cost of feed as well, all of this has added to the real problem. 0k, thank you all very much. leighton says what an appalling catalogue of cruelty, there needs to be much tighter control and much more severe sentences, although the maximum sentences, although the maximum sentence of five years in jail for abuse of animals is pretty decent. these animals led the industrial revolution and through history has served us well. we need to have respect to give proper support to these magnificent animals. emma says, heartbreaking story of the horses' treatment, all animals should be subject to laws of ownership, microchips, etc. tony says it is disgusting and heartbreaking, and james says, what possesses someone to punch a horse. shouldn't these abysmal horse owners have a way to deal with these beautiful creatures decently? haley

says, iam beautiful creatures decently? haley says, i am watching in tears, it is unbelievable cruelty, but it is lovely to see them recovering. thank you, all of you. still to come. we'll bring you an exclusive report into claims that parents are being investigated for possible child abuse because of the misinterpretation of guidelines on bruising in babies. and after our exclusive report on brothels last week, we'll hear new claims that police are struggling to cope with the big increase in so—called "pop—up brothels" in the uk. time for the latest news — here's carole walker. thank you, good morning. the bbc news headlines this morning. 25—year—old alek minassian was arrested shortly after the attack in toronto. canadian police say they don't know the motive, but believe it was deliberate. prime minister justin trudeau has described the

attack is tragic and senseless. the father of seriously ill toddler alfie evans has said that his son has been breathing unassisted after his life support machine was switched off last night. alfie's father, tom evans, said his son had been breathing without a ventilator, although doctors had given some oxygen. alder hey hospital has yet to comment. it comes after his parents lost legal challenges against a high court ruling that the hospital could withdraw life support. labour leaderjeremy corbyn will meet leaders from the jewish community later today, to assure them that he's tackling anti—semitism within the party. he has already apologised for the pain caused by the allegations made. the board of deputies of britishjews and thejewish leadership council will urge mr corbyn to take "strong and consistent" action. unwanted horses are being "fly—tipped" and left to die by irresponsible owners, the rspca has told this programme the charity said it was regularly being called out to help animals dumped by their owners and had rescued 1,000 horses in england

and wales last year. it said prosecution cases involving horses had risen by 25% since 2015. facebook has considered profiling its users personalities and using the information to target adverts. patents filed by the social network describes how personality characteristics including emotional stability could be determined from people's messages and status updates. facebook says it has never used the personality test in its products. the uk's biggest network of food banks says it issued a record, 1.3 million, emergency supplies last year. the trussell trust says the 13 % increase on the previous year has been driven by those on benefits not being able to afford basic essentials. the government has rejected any link between the benefits system and demand for emergency food. that's a summary of

the latest bbc news. thank you very much, carole. katie has sent us an e—mail and a photograph of a horse that they re—homed in february this year. katie says, we we haven't her via the rspca, and like the other horses in your story today, she was in a terrible state. luckily she has made a full recovery, and had a loving home for life. ijust a full recovery, and had a loving home for life. i just don't understand why people can be this cruel, it breaks my heart. let's bring you the sport again. thank you, victoria. mohammed salah prepares to meet his old team mates when liverpool host roma tonight with a place in the champions league final up for grabs.

modern technology helps an everton fan be a virtual mascot at a match. philjagielka holds an avi robot head of everton's1—0 win over newcastle, which gives jack mclinden before mascot experience. england captain will miss england's summer tour to south africa. a concussion is forcing hartley to take an extended break from the game. and more from the snooker, where another major player has been knocked out. this programme has been told that parents are being investigated for possible child abuse because of the misinterpretation of guidelines on bruising in babies. in nearly half of local authorities in england, if a bruise is found on your baby you'll be automatically referred to children's services or investigated for signs of abuse. official guidelines from health watchdog nice for hospital workers

suggest such bruising in babies who can't walk is very uncommon. but one leading expert has told us more than a quarter of babies are bruised accidentally. we've heard claims that parents are being falsely accused of harming their children because of that guidance. of course, this is a sensitive issue and it's natural to err on the side of caution. but are we getting it right? our reporter andy smythe has met parents who've been accused. it felt like they were out to get us. i thought they weren't going to stop until he was adopted. it's almost unimaginable — to be accused of harming a thing most precious to you, when you didn't. all i did was cry. i didn't sleep. you actually start to doubt yourself as a parent. we found that some social services teams take such tough action over single bruises that its leading

to babies being removed from their parents. we got police escorted off the hospital ward, with all the other parents staring at us. and ifelt like a criminal. the theory is that it's very uncommon for a baby that can't move to get bruised. so, abuse is automatically suspected. but we've heard claims that the national guidelines on baby bruising are misleading, that it's not rare at all, and we've been told it can have disastrous consequences for some parents. if this puts into people's minds even just a hesitation in taking their child to the doctors, there's a real chance that, sooner or later, some child will die. oh, daddy gets one, but not mummy? i see how it is! chelsea kirtley and matthew plimmer finally got their son, theo, back.

the first year of his life has been the most difficult of theirs. it started when theo was just a few weeks old. chelsea noticed a mark on his left arm. she took him to a gp — nothing to worry about, she was told. then a series of marks appeared around his belly button. it was very late at night, midnight when we made the call to 111. they said to take him to a&e straightaway. what did you think it was? meningitis. so, we got to go to the children's ward and then the next morning the paediatrician on duty came round, and that's when he said, "i think you've harmed your child." it just. .. it didn't sink in until the social worker arrived. stockton council social services immediately removed theo into the care of his auntie, chelsea's sister. but he developed another mark on his foot, so more accusations came. they thought she was letting me

harm him, or not supervising me, so i was alone with theo, and we never broke the rules once. theo went to live with his grandmother, but the council's view was clear. they were extremely suspicious. i thought they weren't going to stop until he was adopted. i couldn't even walk the streets, because seeing somebody with kids, i used to think, i'm a better mother than you. why do you have your kids and i don't have mine? i became quite bitter towards people. i sort of thought that people wouldn't want to come near me, in case they thought i had actually done it. so i stayed away from my friends, in case they thought i'd harmed him. no—one would listen to us, because it had been written down that we'd harmed our child, itjust lingered over you. everywhere we went, they knew. like, doctors. i felt i was getting looked

at and people were disgusted at me. even though i hadn't done nothing wrong. chelsea was convinced a medical condition was causing theo's marks, so she began the fight to clear her name. she's not alone. just up the road, sunderland. amy agnew found a blue patch on her baby, scarlet‘s foot. i took her down to a&e, as advised by 111. and then obviously it just went from there to basically a life of hell. they were just pointing the finger straight there and then. that i was basically an abusive parent. and if it wasn't me who done it, it was obviously somebody else. straightaway, social services in sunderland removed scarlet from her parent's care. my worst nightmare was when they turned around and said they would take her off us for three

days and i wouldn't get to see her. i've never been investigated by social services, none of my family has either. and that's what they said, they couldn't understand, because we had a clean history, and every one of us work. the hospital never did get to the bottom of what was assumed to bejust a birthmark. but scarlet was allowed back home. you actually start to doubt yourself as a parent, like, your skills and everything. you're just terrified of her actually doing anything, because you think somebody's is going to take her away, when you know you've done nothing personally wrong yourself. she hadn't, and neither had chelsea kirtley. her son, theo, was eventually examined by a geneticist. chelsea says it took him two minutes to diagnose hypermobility syndrome. it means that your skin can mark easily, bruise easily, by minimal contact. or just by rubbing on something a bit too hard. so the case was dropped.

chelsea had been without her baby for more than a year. me, theo and my mum are in a hostel, because we were made homeless because of the effect it had on us. i had to leave myjob, in the end, because of the stress. me and theo's dad broke up, because we came distant because of it all. we couldn't speak to each other without arguing. we just lost everything. so, why such tough action over seemingly minor marks and bruises? the tragedies of victoria climbie and peter connelly — baby p — highlighted how warning signs were missed by social workers. it caused a dramatic shift in the way social services treat suspected abuse cases. andy bilson is an experienced social worker, and now professor of social work. he's worried that when it comes to bruising in small babies, we are now going too far. i think social workers are in danger

of having to take decisions based on really misleading guidance, and really misleading interpretations of research. he's got concerns over guidelines issued by the national institute for health and care excellence, nice. they are based on the idea that bruises in bruises in pre—mobile babies are rare. i mean, if you can't move, well, you can't bang into something, right? so, that theory leads to the guidance that professionals should suspect abuse if they find a single bruise. but when professor bilson looked at research evidence, he found that perhaps it wasn't very uncommon for a pre—mobile baby to get a bruise at all. what they found was that if you followed children for six to eight weeks, on average, then 27% of all children have a bruise at some point in that time. that's huge. if you apply that to the whole of england, that's maybe 100,000 children with a bruise over a six

to eight week period. are the nice guidelines misleading? i think they do mislead. because they do this thing of saying that something which isn't rare is actually very uncommon. they say it's very uncommon. it isn't. there's lots of ways that pre—mobile babies bruise. they roll into things, they roll off a settee. if they've got brothers and sisters, then things happen. they get hit with a toy, or somebody may fall while holding them. nice didn't comment on the claim that guidelines could be misleading. they say their original document was aimed at medical professionals working in hospitals. there are new guidelines issued last year, aimed more at social workers and teachers, giving examples of physical signs and behaviours or emotions a child is exhibiting that can be assessed. the nice guidelines are used by social services teams in england to draw up their own policies, and they are wildly different.

91 council safeguarding children boards have specific bruising guidance. 36 say that only a small percentage of bruising in not independently mobile children will have an innocent explanation. 15 policies say that any bruise, no matter how small, is highly predictive of child abuse. and in five council areas, a single bruise will lead to an immediate formal investigation of the family. one place where the policy is particularly hardline is sunderland. why here? well, a few years ago a number of vulnerable babies died. the council was accused of serious failings. but parents like amy and steven feel they are now being investigated unnecessarily. they've missed that many bad cases in the past, they've just gone the total opposite.

there'sjust no need to go down that route to start with. i understand that people do have to be investigated, but there's means and ways of treating a family. labour mp emma lewell—buck used to be a social worker in sunderland. i never came across a case where a baby had a bruise who wasn't mobile, and that bruise was purely accidental. i think you should always err on the side of caution. sunderland's child ren's services team said the safety and welfare of all children is at the heart of their practice, and it underpins all aspects of decision—making. they won't comment on scarlet‘s case, but they say bruising in any child that can't move by itself should prompt a referral to social services. what would you do? what would people listening do? would they say, well, we don't want to unfairly persecuted those parents, or would they do the right thing and make sure that they had a full medical assessment to figure out whether or not this was deliberate?

do you accept that social workers have to investigate these things? because if it happens on your watch, it's your career over? i accept that social workers have to be inquisitive. they have to look into something. there's a difference between looking into it and going down the formal investigation line. if they look at a bruise and they have in the back of their mind that this doesn't happen very often, that it's rare, the chances of them making a really good decision, i think, actually decrease. i think there is also other dangers. i think it's going to lead to parents being very wary of going for medical help when they've got a child with a bruise. if this puts into people's minds even just a hesitation of taking a child to the doctors, there's a real chance that, sooner or later, some child will die because of this policy. i think it's scaring a lot of parents now to take their children to hospital, when there's actually something wrong with them.

because they're petrified that the same would happen to them that's happened to me. but it might be something serious? yeah. remember, chelsea took a baby to hospital because she was worried he had meningitis. stockton council removed theo from her care for more than a year. do you blame the council? the council and the doctor, yeah. i think theyjust rushed into it, i think theyjumped to conclusions when they didn't need to. stockton on tees council says theo's was a very complex case, they relied heavily on medical views throughout. they say these decisions are tough, but the safety of the child always has to be their number one consideration. the hospital told us that their professionals follow the nice national guidelines and, again, that safety is their highest priority. i want them to admit that they didn't do everything they could. i want them to apologise for how much they've ruined my life. and admit that they were wrong. we missed out on his first steps. first word.

when he first sat up and rolled over, we missed it all. if you have leaned in a similar scenario, we want to hear from you, if you have been accused of harming them, if you are in a no—win situation in terms of whether or not to investigate, get in touch and share all of your experiences. one of our viewers says thank you for finally addressing the appalling actions of purley trained and ill informed professionals especially social services, too many children wrongly removed every year, some of them are forcibly adopted, this is much worse than just what you are showing today. daniel on twitter says we are increasingly seeing

doctors exceed their authority in accusing parents of harm and neglect. now more than ever we can see doctors and the authorities can and often are wrong. next, polite life—support of seriously ill baby albie evans has been withdrawn. thom evans albie evans has been withdrawn. thom eva ns says albie evans has been withdrawn. thom evans says this life—support was turned off on monday but he was breathing on his own and had been given oxygen. nine hours he has been breeding for and he still breathing now, it's come to a point for his mum is sitting next to him so she can go to sleep, should be as co mforta ble can go to sleep, should be as comfortable with him. his sats were sitting below 70. how long after it became obvious, after a fewer hours, he was breathing on his own but at what point did the doctors intervene and say... i sat them down and said

it was becoming a crime and unlawful in my opinion, it wasn't on the court order he could be starved of food or hydration and there were potentially starving him of oxygen from nutrients and water so i sat down with the doctor, plus a lengthy talk, about 40 minutes, he ended up saying i was right and i have always been right and they say alfie is suffering and look at him now, he's not even on a ventilator and his not suffering. have the doctors intervened again, have they given... from they left for six hours without food, water, and oxygen. and i to be honest with you, they were going to give him water and he is now on oxygen, it's not changing his breathing but it is oxygenating his body, he is still working as much as he can but we need him to be

supported in the next hour, it's going to be hard but we will need him to be supported at the next hour or two because he then doing this for nine hours, totally unexpected, but doctors are gobsmacked and i believe he will need some form of life—support in the next couple of hours and i think you're to be respected and given that. thom eva ns, respected and given that. thom evans, comes after his parents lost legal challenges against a high court ruling in fabric, that alder hey children's hospital could patrol life—support. let's talk to nick garnett who is outside the alder hey children's hospital, that clip was from thom evans is speaking at 6:45am this morning, you've been talking to him, what else did he say? one of the things he was keen to do was to apologise for the behaviour of the people that have been outside, he says he knows there has been disruption to hospital live here but he says any father would do the same if they were in the position that he is. and he welcomed

the support they been able to give him over the last few weeks. he said at 917, oxygen is taken away from the hospital we hang me and he was able to carry on breathing. —— oxygen was taken away from alfie in the hospital behind me. he was able to convince them that they needed to maintain medical support, he was given nutrients and we believe some oxygen, the hospital i have to say would confirm anything at the moment, they say they don't comment on the health of one of their patients. all of this information is coming from albie's father's side of the story as it were. and he says he's been staying in the hospital, sleeping on the floor and he shown photographs of himself sleeping on bla nkets photographs of himself sleeping on blankets on the floor as near as alfie as he can fight he tries to

maintain the support. in a nutshell this is all about the family wanting to maintain life—support and the hospital saying the time has come to withdraw it. thank you very much. we can speak to lizzie candy, a former neonatal nurse and thank you for talking to us. good morning. when thom evans spoke this morning people we re thom evans spoke this morning people were astonished that alfie was breathing unaided after the life—support machine was turned off, what insight can you give us about that? obviously i'm not practising and i'm a former neonatal nurse and not paediatric so it's different for every case but in any brain degenerative disease, these things can take time, though not always insta nt, can take time, though not always instant, i'm afraid and sadly palliative care will go on for as long as it needs to to make alfie co mforta ble. long as it needs to to make alfie comfortable. but it may be he will struggle a little bit to breed for some time before his little body

finally gives up. and what does palliative care involved ? finally gives up. and what does palliative care involved? —— he will struggle a little bit to breathe. thejob now is struggle a little bit to breathe. the job now is to struggle a little bit to breathe. thejob now is to make him co mforta ble thejob now is to make him comfortable and they will make sure he is comfortable and pain—free and receiving everything that he needs to receive to be comfortable in his last few days maybe. do you have any sympathy with his parents who want to ta ke sympathy with his parents who want to take him to rome orfurther treatment? of course, it's a heartbreaking time for the parents and my sympathies do go out to them but the medical and nursing staff have made absolutely sure that removing the life—support machine is in the best interests of alfie, as i understand that the brain disease that he has is quite bad in the fact

that he has is quite bad in the fact that his brain will not be functioning in any way possible to give him a normal way of life, quality of life. so that will have been looked into in great eater and i think at this stage now having removed that life—support, certainly travelling any of will not be a possibility. finally, can you imagine the nurses, the medics, eve ryo ne imagine the nurses, the medics, everyone who works in a big children's hospital going in each day and facing those protests, thom evans apologising for that today, what would that be like to the professionals ? what would that be like to the professionals? i am pleased he has apologised, it's not acceptable behaviour, those medical teams are trying to do the best for alfie and the family as well, i think it's really sad we have this mob mentality almost to try and get points across, there are ways and means of going about it and sadly in this case that's not the way to go. thank you very much for talking to us. this tweet on the case of alfie

eva ns, us. this tweet on the case of alfie evans, he is such an inspiration, such a strong fighter, his army will for ever be by his side. here's an e—mail about horse cruelty, i work for a horse rescued 30 based near melton mowbray, for the rspca is seeing is just the tip of the iceberg. he was on bbc two will leave us now for the snooker. we will continue on bbc news. with a full weather update. good morning. good morning, victoria, this is a picture there is a very far north of

england, northern ireland and scotland, you have got a day of bright spells, sunshine and showers. the rain is coming in courtesy of this cluster of fronts. they will move north and east was before clearing tonight, and elsewhere, showers coming in in a brisk westerly breeze. as we go through the morning, we continue with this rain, most of it won't be heavy, but as it pushes into the south west, also lincolnshire and yorkshire, lancashire, clipping southern parts of cumbria. but the showers persist across the north and west in between some dry and bright spells, with sunshine and temperatures up to 15. through this evening and overnight, we lose this rain from the east of england, behind it there will be clearer skies, and also some showers. a cold night for some of us in the north, but further south, the temperature is hanging on into double figures, and then tomorrow,

we start off on a dry note with some sunshine again across many parts of the uk. the showers already in the west will push towards the east, some of them will be heavy and thundery with some hail. temperature wires, we are looking at roughly 13-15. thank you, carol. hello it's tuesday, it's 10 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. our top story. detectives in toronto are questioning a 25—year—old van driver who's suspected of killing ten people by deliberately running them over. if it was an accident then he would have stopped all gone to the wall, but the person just went through the sidewalk, and he didn't stop. it is just shocking. police say they don't know the suspect‘s motives. we'll hear from a local reporter in toronto. also on the programme: horses are being dumped, fly—tipped and left to die

by irresponsible owners. the rpsca tell us exclusively they had to rescue 1000 horses last year — the highest number for four years. ifind it i find it appalling. ifind itappalling. i ifind it appalling. i can't get my head around why somebody would do that to a horse and then try to put them in that situation again. jenny tells us i cried as i watched your piece on horses being dubbed this morning, having owned and loved horses for most of my life. more reaction to come from the shocking footage, and we will talk to you before 11. and claims that parents are being investigated for possible child abuse because of the misinterpretation of guidelines on bruising in babies. if this puts into people's minds even just if this puts into people's minds evenjust a if this puts into people's minds even just a hesitation of taking their child to the doctor, there is a real chance that sooner or later some child will die. good morning. here's carole walker

in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the news. good morning. canadian police have been questioning the suspect of a van attack in toronto that killed 10 people and injured 15 others. 25 year—old alek minassian was arrested shortly after the attack. canadian police say they don't know the motive, but believe it was deliberate. prime ministerjustin trudeau has described the attack as "tragic and senseless". the father of seriously ill toddler alfie evans has said that his son has been breathing unassisted after his life support machine was switched off last night. alfie's father, tom evans, said his son had been breathing without a ventilator, although doctors had given some oxygen. it comes after his parents lost legal challenges against a high court ruling that the hospital could withdraw life support. labour leaderjeremy corbyn will meet leaders from the jewish community later today, to assure them that he's tackling anti—semitism within the party. he has already apologised for the pain caused by the allegations made.

the board of deputies of britishjews and thejewish leadership council will urge mr corbyn to take "strong and consistent" action. unwanted horses are being "fly—tipped" and left to die by irresponsible owners, the rspca has told this programme. the charity said it was regularly being called out to help animals dumped by their owners and had rescued one thousand horses in england and wales last year. it said prosecution cases involving horses had risen by 25% since 2015. chris shaw, who's a world horse welfare field office, told us that — like the rspca — he is dealing with more cases. iam i am busier than i have ever been before, and if anything myjob does get busier every year, particularly the last four years have been quite horrendous with some of the situations that i have seen horses

in. i have had horses dumped, set on fire when they were alive, starved to death. the uk's biggest network of food banks says it issued a record 1.3 million emergency supplies last year. the trussell trust says the 13% increase on the previous year has been driven by those on benefits not being able to afford basic essentials. the government has rejected any link between the benefits system and demand for emergency food. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30. thank you very much, and thanks to lorna for this e—mail about bruises that were on her daughter's body. a health visitor noticed small bruises on my daughter when she was 17 months old, and asked me how she got them. i couldn't answer because i didn't know. it was worrying for us. three days later she was diagnosed with leukaemia, hence the bruising, as the blood doesn't clot properly.

the health visitor failed to notice signs of leukaemia, even though i asked her why my daughter was looking so pale. she dismissed me as a neurotic new mum. my daughter is now perfectly healthy, so it was a happy ending for us eventually. if you are getting in touch, you are very welcome,. let's go to the sport now. it is a big night the liverpool tonight, and a huge night for this man, mohamed salah, facing his old clu b man, mohamed salah, facing his old club roma for the first time since leaving them last summer. the two sides are meeting for the first leg of their champions league semifinal at anfield. sala has scored 41 goals this season, butjurgen klopp has told him not to expect friendly treatment from his former team—mates. but he said the spell at roma was an important time for his career. he had a fantastic time there, he became the player there which we have now here, big credit

to all the staff and the players at rome, because they are all part of his development. ahead of the match, roma paid tribute to liverpool's history. captain daniele de rossi laying a wreath at the hillsborough memorial at anfield which honours the 96 supporters who died in the hillsborough disaster. their rivals everton beat newcastle 1-0 their rivals everton beat newcastle 1—0 in the premier league last night, but had that much there was a lovely moment for 14—year—old everton lovely moment for 14—year—old eve rto n fa n lovely moment for 14—year—old everton fan jack mclinden, lovely moment for 14—year—old everton fanjack mclinden, who suffers from multiple illnesses which means he can't get to matches, but he was able to fulfil history of being a mascot with the help of a robot. that is captain philjagielka carrying the robot onto the pitch, which fed panoramic live images and sound back to jack's tablet at home, and a microphone on it meant that the players could even have a chat with jack in the tunnel ahead of the game. the snooker world championship

continues, with play getting under way at the crucible in the last few minutes. the shocks continue. yesterday 2005 winner sean murphy was knocked out, losing the deciding frame to jamie jones. today was knocked out, losing the deciding frame to jamiejones. today world number three ding junhui continues his match, he is 6—3 up, whilst you at bingham takes onjack lisowski on the other table. and that is all the sport for now, thank you, victoria. thank you. the authorities in canada are trying to establish why a 25—year—old man drove a van into pedestrians in northern toronto — killing ten people and wounding fifteen others. here's what we know so far. many people were just shouting, stop the car. he hit every single

person on the sidewalk, everybody in his way, he hit. approximately 1.30 this afternoon, toronto police received a number of calls from citizens indicating a vehicle is driving on yonge street, and striking a number of pedestrians between finch avenue and sheppard avenue. and he hit some people, and three people were lying down there, they didn't move. the bus stop, everything was shattered. there's a lady in there i saw, ijust stopped and i looked, and i went after, and all i see is this crumbling up. one by one, one by one... holy god, i've never seen a thing like this in my life, i swear. earlier i spoke to nitish bissonauth

it was, in fact, that area of the downtown, it is actually considered a second downtown core. like you mentioned, the weather was fantastic. last week we had an ice storm. as you can imagine, a lot of people are taking advantage of this beautiful weather. it was the second warmest day of the week. that area has a lot of cafes, a lot of restaurants. it really is a pedestrian friendly zone, you know? we're talking about large sidewalks, sidewalks that encourage people to go out and about, and enjoy. so it was very visibly upsetting for a lot of people to hear this happen, in such a quaint and nice area of the city. some people will have seen online footage showing the suspect next to the damaged white rental vehicle, which went almost a mile down that pedestrian pavement and shouting, "kill me", to officers. officers said no and the authorities arrested him. they say he's not associated

with an organised terror group. are they saying anything, then, about a motive for this? so, right now it's still too early to say if there's any motive involved. what we do know is that he is 25 years old, he is believed to be a college student, or has just finished his studies. so that's the extent of information that we know. we have no idea if he has any ties or connections, from our part, anyways. but what is really remarkable about this whole take—down is the way it ensued. he essentially was brandishing an object. it wasn't clear whether or not it was a cellphone or in gun. it appears that the officer was approaching them, and noticed he had something in his hand, that he was brandishing something, and then took a few steps back, and then continued to interact with him. and then decided to take down without any gunshots. you know, in today's day and age, it is very unheard of to see this

type of take—down when nobody is hurt and, essentially, the suspect is able to be ta ken into custody. that was nitish bissonauth, a canadian reporter at citynews. police are struggling to cope with the big increase in "pop—up brothels" in the uk. that's according to the chair of an all party parliamentary group which is investigating the rise of temporary brothels, where sex workers use airbnb, hotels, or short—term holiday lets as a work base. you may remember that last week this programme revealed that one former police officer is now running a chain of brothels across the south east "in plain sight" of police. and we are going to play you a clip, hopefully? instead, let's go to our guests. let's talk now to detective

sergeant nikki leach from south yorkshire police's anti—slavery unit who you saw in that film. we have seen a few of these popping up we have seen a few of these popping up only area where i work. our team deals with modern slavery and human trafficking and what goes on with that, and there has been an increase in trafficking for sexual expectation into these locations. in trafficking for sexual expectation into these locationsm terms of your priorities, is this about protecting the women who are being coerced? about protecting the women who are being coerced ? is about protecting the women who are being coerced? is it about catching the traffickers, the organised criminals? our primary aim is about identifying and safeguarding females who may be victims of trafficking in these locations, not only that but also tackling, disrupting, dismantling and prosecuting the organised crime groups that are responsible for the serious exploitation which is extrude the lucrative for them. how do you get tip—off that there might be a potential brothel on somebody's

street? it is all down to the reporting. members of the public reporting. members of the public reporting to us that they are suspicious of something. pop up ruffels can be in places like short—term lets, it might be the house next door to you. they can carry an unidentified for a period of time before we become aware of it, and that is generally three members of the public being vigilant and supporting suspicious activity so that we can identify that. stay with us. the bbc spent some time with us. the bbc spent some time with your anti—slavery unit, and we can see what happened. hi, i'm from the police. can we come in? police believe this house in sheffield is being used as a pop—up brothel. are you here on your own? the officers on the anti—slavery team at south yorkshire police are concerned that any women inside could have been trafficked into the country and forced to have sex with men. this is generally the kind of room that is used for girls to have sex in, when they are prostituting themselves, or being prostituted. as you can see, there's not really much in the rooms by way of furniture,

other than a bed. the girls that we find in these situations often are not doing this because they want to do it, they are doing it because they, a, have no other choice, or because they are forced, or coerced into doing it by some other person that is controlling their movements. they come, obviously, often from eastern europe. their flights are paid for by people, and when they get here, they built up what's called a debt bondage. so, i've paid for your flight, you £300. i paid for your transport from the airport, you now owe me £50 for that. right, you only £350 before we've even started. it will take somebody, a neighbour, a nosy neighbour or somebody to say, hold on a second, there's something not right at that address, there's men coming and going at all times of the day, for us to know that something's going on there, and for them to obviously report it to us,

for us to even know. so it can go undetected for a long period of time. and a lot of money can be gained if you've got more than one girl working there by the men that are controlling them. these officers regularly carry out safeguarding visits to check on the women at properties they suspect are being used as brothels. this is doncaster. there are two rooms that are set up, two beds in there, very little of the furniture. a throw on the bed, a bedside table with lube and condoms in there. the female in that dress is dressed in a dressing down, as if she's waiting for somebody to arrive at that address. it is pretty much what we find would revisit these kinds of places, it's pretty much how it is in there. also, from the outside, all of the curtains are drawn in there. so, that's another indicator that something's going on there that probably shouldn't be. houses can be used as pop—up brothels for a few weeks or even just a few days. for women trafficked from eastern europe,

it can be very difficult to escape from then controlling them. a woman who was helped by the bradford charity, hope forjustice, has told her story. we've protected her identity. the men took me to see clients all over halifax, sheffield, manchester and liverpool, in hotels, or people's houses. he threatened me many times with violence. he threatened my family, too. he said he'd drive me to the grave, and i believe he'll do it. i don't want to speak to the police about anything. i just want all this to stop and to live a normal life. the internet has changed the off—street sex trade and made it much easierfor people to contact sex workers. for police, it means a growing challenge. we're now seeing a huge prevalence, across the whole of the uk come of pop—up brothels. there are over 50 adult services

websites operating across the uk, offering more than 8500 unique adverts for sex workers and prostitutes every month. it's all across the uk, it's in large towns, large cities, but also market towns and rural settings as well. the all—party parliamentary group on prostitution has been investigating the growth of pop—up brothels. this is very much a trade that goes on in the shadows, and in the darkness. so, for that reason, i think it's important that we have really sensitive policing of brothel keeping. but also, actually, that the law changes as well. at the moment, it sends no clear signals about what we believe prostitution to be, where it is such an obvious area of risk. it needs politicians, as well as the police, to say very clearly how we want it policed. its thought there will be calls for more resources for this growing problem. let's talk now to detective sergeant nikki leach

from south yorkshire police's anti—slavery unit who you saw in that film. what help can you give to women involved in a trade like this? we provide support for victims of trafficking, they will support the victim and help them on the journey to the next period of time. if you are saying potentially more resources a re are saying potentially more resources are needed to tackle the problem, but the message you are sending to traffickers? the message we are sending out as we will find you and prosecute you. but you are struggling to keep up with what's going on? i don't think were struggling to keep up, we are addressing the risk we are facing in

south yorkshire quite successfully, we have got good for assessors in place, good work with our partners, we rely on members of the public to contact us and let us know - you please consider the female that you are engaging with might not be a willing participant and if anyone has any concerns reported to us so we can start to build up that intelligence picture, safeguard any effect on sound ultimately investigate and prosecute those organised crime groups. thank you for coming on the programme. thank you so much for your comments

on ourfilm thank you so much for your comments on our film about cruelty to horses, the numbers don't, risky, almost 1000 rescued last year, the highest numberforfour years. 1000 rescued last year, the highest number for four years. tracy says do you really think everyone who owns a horse is going to paper micro—chipping? of course not, more people should be prosecuted, finds much higher, checks on band people owning animals should be taken but that means more money into the rspca. rachel says it upsets me as a living —— living being people could do such thing passes are any animal, cruelty like this should be judged very seriously. another viewer says this is awful, i hope they can find and prosecute the people who leave their sick or injured horses to die in appalling conditions, well done to the rspca for helping these beautiful animals have some quality of life after such neglect. christiane facebook says thank you for covering the situation. as you can see by some of the comments on

your facebook page to the rspca have not always been that helpful with reports of horses and mistreated, they tend says kirsty to burst onto they tend says kirsty to burst onto the carpet, the rspca have let many people down. and i read part of that e—mail, matt, who works for a horse charity in leicester, he says what the rspca see isjust charity in leicester, he says what the rspca see is just the tip of the iceberg and goes on to say, weekends and out we have to turn of a to courses and ponies that had been abandoned, injured and left to die by owners who cannot afford to care for them or simply mistreat them. we already look after over 90 horses and rely on donations and volunteers to survive. there are many horse rescue charities all over the country. thank you for those. jeremy corbyn will face a series of demands when he meets representatives of the uk's two main jewish groups at westminster later. the labour leader has alrady apologised for the pain caused by what he described as ‘pockets of anti—semitism' in his party and has pledged to stamp it out.

but the board of deputies of britishjews and thejewish leadership council will press for concrete action to address the problem — including a fixed timescale for dealing with outstanding and future complaints. earlier this monthjeremy corbyn's friend and political ally jon lansman, who isjewish, told us that the labour leader should go on a course to learn more about anti—semitism. there are a small number of cases of outrageous holocaust denial and so on but they are relatively small numbers, i think there is a much wider problem of unconscious bias which is similar if you like to the unconscious bias that be sent a bill on training courses if they are doing recruitment, interviewing people, so they are aware of their unconscious bias and unfortunately in the labour party it seems and maybe elsewhere, many people do not seem to be willing to confront this

unconscious bias in themselves and we need a big programme of education and training to make people aware of that. should jeremy corbyn go on that. should jeremy corbyn go on that education and training programme? i think everybody who deals in the national executive of the labour party from investigators to members of the national executive and the national constitution... so you would... if you like the quasi judicial body... you thinkjeremy corbyn needs to do that?” judicial body... you thinkjeremy corbyn needs to do that? i think all people... including the leader? let's pause for a moment, that is extraordinary what you have just said, the leader of the labour party... it is not extraordinary, no, it is not extraordinary stop for anyone who makes a decision about matters to do with anti—semitism should go on a training coursejust like in the labour party in relation

to sexual harassment, we require eve ryo ne to sexual harassment, we require everyone to undergo courses about sexual harassment, that's exactly what i'm saying. with me isjenny manson — she's the co—chair of jewish voice for labour — a campaign group which supports jeremy corbyn. what radical measures do you want to see? i would like to see the general secretary investigating with due process alleged cases of anti—semitism, i don't want to see allegations treated as truth and being used to criticise the labour party. the labour party has got some anti—semitism, all parties have come my concern is much more at the moment about the great rise in anti—semitism on the far right in europe and i think we ought to be looking at that and the conservative party whom i don't want to malign but they have got links with some of the right—wing parties in europe and i'm very concerned about that. going back to what i want, i want serious

consideration of anti—semitism was in the labour party and i thinkjohn was right although i don't in my view think it's anything odd that he said jeremy corbyn needs education. asa said jeremy corbyn needs education. as a juice—macro i am very concerned -- -- as as a juice—macro i am very concerned —— —— asa as a juice—macro i am very concerned —— —— as ajew. so for the as a juice—macro i am very concerned —— —— as a jew. so for the cases as a juice—macro i am very concerned —— —— as ajew. so for the cases i know about have not been based on actual evidence, you may know of a professor of mathematics, an israeli jew living in london, suspended with vague allegations of anti—semitism, there is no and was no evidence against, he is a jew, there is no and was no evidence against, he is ajew, there might be evidence... sorry to interrupt what ken livingstone has been suspended for two years for alleged anti—semitic remarks, do you think you should be expelled? as a matter of fa ct you should be expelled? as a matter of fact i think he's an example of someone who needs due process, i

don't think he's anti—semitic. i think his comments were offensive but the fact i have a different view than you or someone else suggest you have to have proper evidence and in the case of ken livingstone that this trial by media and by critics. the party could have sorted this out yea rs the party could have sorted this out years ago, its two years it's been going on. he was given another suspension for a year, there hasn't been much competency around that's why i'm pleased the new general secretary, the party was hauled into this very fast, the chakra bhaji report was excellent and i think that has been a failure of the administration but not ofjeremy corbyn, he is not the boss of the general secretary, if the nec. the culture comes from the top. the culture comes from the top. the culture is fine. if it was important to him he would admit the recommendations were implemented. talking about this, the general secretary of the labour party is a nswera ble to secretary of the labour party is answerable to the nec and jeremy corbyn said i want the general secretary to be a different person

ought to do this, the criticism so often made of him is he is dictatorial... if you appoint someone like shanley chakra bhaji to doa someone like shanley chakra bhaji to do a report and anti—semitism which he did and then she was given a pure ship, it is important to you. it was very important, it's why he asked the nec as far as i know, i don't speak to the nec as far as i know, i don't speakto him, the nec as far as i know, i don't speak to him, to ask iain mcmillan to implement the report, it hasn't been implemented and i was dry to explain to you if i may, that no other party has had a report like this or an internal administration dry to deal with issues like anti—semitism... all the dry to deal with issues like anti—semitism. .. all the evidence dry to deal with issues like anti—semitism... all the evidence at the moment and there is been evidence very recently which was sponsored by a jewish organisation perhaps expecting different results, they found there was anti—semitism on the far right, very little on the far left. it wasn't an issue under ed miliband. there was anti-semitism

against ed miliband in my point of view... there was no atmosphere within the party which meant... as far as within the party which meant... as farasi within the party which meant... as far as i know there is no evidence, and asking for evidence, that things have got worse. i've been in the labour party 50 years, i haven't experienced anti—semitism in that time of the last two years. never? never. i am chair of thejewish voice for labour, we have to be jewish and members of the labour party. the board of deputies and jewish leadership council do not speakfor us jewish leadership council do not speak for us nothing do with the labour party and cold mainstream organisations, what does that mean? we are also a jewish organisation, cold a fringe, some sort of left, crazy fringe, anyway, amongst our collea g u es crazy fringe, anyway, amongst our colleagues i don't think any of the people i know have ever experienced anti—semitism in the labour party, that people are experiencing. this is what my kids told me, this is a

social media problem with than anything else, let me get back to where anti—semitism... anything else, let me get back to where anti-semitism. .. could doesn't make it any less searing. and you are right to say some people have been expelled, that is my air. let's look at the facts, in my experience, i don't do social media and i keep away from social media for good reason because i might fall into a trap into posting something and people do, on social media there has been some disgusting thing said two labour mps been some disgusting thing said two labourmps andi been some disgusting thing said two labour mps and i gather to conservative mps as well although we don't hear about that and that's equally disgusting. the link between those nasty debts, blogs, posts whatever, to labour party members is not established, if it is, that will be one of the first things that jenny should look at. that's why i say it's a trial by social media, people have not learned how to use it and people have not learned how to use itandi people have not learned how to use it and i want to see what other word. about israel. i am very concerned about this policy and i am

jewish and i am allowed to say that, it's becoming increasingly hard for non—jewish people to know how to talk about it and the result of this latest pew months, years since jeremy corbyn came in is conversation about israel and palestine and palestinian rights in the labour party has more or less seized, people are so nervous about saying the wrong thing, i think that's another serious crisis we should be talking about. thank you so much, we will see what happens at the meeting later, jenny stay with us. i know you've got to go but stay with us for just a us. i know you've got to go but stay with us forjust a moment. i have a statement to bring you an alfie evans. this is from alder hey children's hospital. it says: we wish to reassure patients and families attending alder hey hospital today that we are operating as usual and that although you will see a police presence, the hospital is calm. please attend your payments

as normal. our is calm. please attend your payments as normal. 0ur emergency is calm. please attend your payments as normal. our emergency department is open, but only attend if you have an accident or emergency requires urgent care. if it is not an emergency, please see your gp or walk—in centre. please also be aware that out of respect for the privacy of alfie and his family we will not be releasing any updates about his condition. this is our normal approach to all of our patients. please do not contact any hospital staff or call the switchboard seeking updates. thank you for your continued cooperation. it is time to the latest news with ca role it is time to the latest news with carole. thank you, victoria. more about the van attack in toronto which has killed 10 people. canadian police have been questioning the suspect — 15 pepole have been injured. 25—year—old alek minassian was arrested shortly after the attack. police say they don't know the motive, but believe it was deliberate. prime ministerjustin trudeau has described the attack as "tragic and senseless”. labour leaderjeremy

corbyn will meet leaders from the jewish community later today, to assure them that he's tackling anti—semitism within the party. he has already apologised for the pain caused by the allegations made. the board of deputies of britishjews and thejewish leadership council will urge mr corbyn to take "strong and consistent" action. the father of seriously ill toddler alfie evans has said that his son has been breathing unassisted after his life support machine was switched off last night. alfie's father, tom evans, said his son had been breathing without a ventilator, although doctors had given some oxygen. it comes after his parents lost legal challenges against a high court ruling that the hospital could withdraw life support. former us president george bush senior is being treated in hospital having fallen ill the day after his wife barbara's funeral. mr bush, who was president from 1989 to 1993, was admitted to hospital in houston on sunday. the 93—year—old has an infection which spread to his blood

but he is responding to treatment, according to his office that's a summary of the latest bbc news. thank you. text from neil, i am a member of the labour party and we have had an e—mail saying that anti—semitism will not be tolerated. when are we going to get to addressing the ainti—corbyn sentiment. and another says, the bbc bias, only one week of windrush and we're back to the ainti—corbyn. this e—mail on horses and the fact that so many are being dumped and rescued last year by the rspca. we brought you a film about it today. roger says it is simple, costs are risen

dramatically, and the income family tours has not kept pace. even to disposable horse costs more than most people can afford. here is some sport. our headlines this morning. mohamed salah prepares to meet his old team—mates when liverpool host roma tonight with a place in the champions league final for grabs. modern technology helps a football fan virtual mascot of match, captain philjagielka held a robot ahead of everton's1—0 win over newcastle, giving jack mclinden before mascot experience. england captain dylan hartley will miss the summer tour to south africa. a concussion is forcing him to take an extended breakfrom forcing him to take an extended break from the game. and forcing him to take an extended breakfrom the game. and snooker world championship, 2015 winner stuart bingham has lost the first frame of his match against jack lisowski this morning. ding junhui

is also in action and you can follow those matches on bbc two and on the website. that is all your sport for now. thank you. it is 25 to 11. this programme's exclusively learned that parents of more than one in four babies in england face suspicion of child abuse and potential investigation — over minor bruising. in nearly half of local authorities in england, if a bruise is found on your baby you'll automatically be referred to children's services or investigated for signs of abuse. we've heard claims that parents are being falsely accused of harming their children because doctors and social workers have potentially the wrong impression that it's rare for a child under 6 months to have a bruise. of course, this is a sensitive issue and it's natural to err on the side of caution. but are we getting it right? we bought you our reporter andy smythe's full film earlier — here's a short extract. oh, daddy gets one, but not mummy? i see how it is! chelsea kirtley and matthew plimmer

finally got their son, theo, back. the first year of his life has been the most difficult of theirs. it started when they took him to hospital, worried that these marks were a sign of meningitis. and then the next morning the paediatrician on duty came round, and that's when he said, "i think you've harmed your child." we got police escorted off the hospital ward, with all the other parents staring at us. and ifelt like a criminal. theo was removed from his parents until he was eventually diagnosed with a skin condition that means he bruises easily. me, theo and my mum are in a hostel, because we were made homeless because of the effects it had on us. i had to leave myjob, in the end, because of the stress. me and theo's dad broke up, because we came distant because of it all. we couldn't speak to each other without arguing. we just lost everything. stockton on tees council says theo's

was a very complex case, and they relied heavily on medical views throughout. they say these decisions are tough, but the safety of the child always has to be their number one consideration. the hospital told us that their professionals follow the national guidelines and, again, that safety is their highest priority. so, why such tough action over seemingly minor marks? i think social workers are in danger of having to take decisions based on really misleading guidance, and really misleading interpretations of research. andy bilson is an experienced social worker, and now professor of social work. he's looked closely at guidelines on bruising issued by the national institute for clinical excellence, nice. they are based on the idea that bruises in bruises in pre—mobile babies are rare.

i mean, if you can't move, well, you can't bang into something, right? so, that theory leads to the guidance that professionals should suspect abuse if they find a single bruise. but when professor bilson looked at research evidence, he found that perhaps it wasn't very uncommon for a pre—mobile baby to get a bruise at all. what they found was that if you followed children for six to eight weeks, then 27% of all children have a bruise at some point in that time. that's huge. are the nice guidelines misleading? i think they do mislead. because they do this thing of saying that something which isn't rare is actually very uncommon. they say it's very uncommon. it isn't. nice didn't comment on the claim that guidelines could be misleading. they say their original document was aimed at medical professionals working in hospitals. there are new guidelines issued last year, aimed more at social workers and teachers, giving examples of physical signs and behaviours or emotions a child is exhibiting that can be assessed. when the death of a child

like peter connelly, baby p, happens, social workers are often blamed. but is the very guidance they rely on actually misleading? and does it mean parents are being investigated unnecessarily? lets talk to sarah silva, who faced an investigation when her baby alice had a mark that looked like a bruise. also whether says professor andy billson, who you saw in the film. he thinks that potentially guidelines on bruising are misinterpreted, which could lead to parents being investigated unncessarily. and dr alison steel is here from the world of paediatrics and child health. she's here to talk about how doctors will treat cases of bruising in small babies. sarah, you saw a mark on your

daughter's yamaji raised it with a health as it, and what happened? because the marks were not noted on the hospital notes, i had to take them into hospital to review what this mark was, and we had six or seven different health professionals looking at her, trying to identify what this mark was. i had explained that it had been there from birth, andi that it had been there from birth, and i potentially thought it had happened upon delivery, and they we re happened upon delivery, and they were unable to identify what it was, so we were referred to social services, and we went home that evening and received a phone call and we were basically advised that if we don't take alice back to the hospital, the police will come to our house and take her and take to the hospital themselves. our house and take her and take to the hospitalthemselves. and how our house and take her and take to the hospital themselves. and how did you react to that? we were very emotional, we were trying to be

corporative and explain that ten o'clock at night for a young baby is not convenient, we have a three—year—old in bed at the minute, and we would come first thing in the morning, that is not a problem, we have already been there today, we have already been there today, we have allowed you the opportunity. the way we saw it, it's not our fault that seven health professionals couldn't identify what it was. i had no concerns with her health because she had had the three—day check, her weight was isaac should be, she was feeding really well, there were no other major signs of anything. did you have concerns that they were suspect you of something, harming your baby? absolutely, when they put is in a position of, tomorrow is not good enough, we offered them to come round now. the moment they said, the police will be the next stage, we just felt really isolated. we were fea rful just felt really isolated. we were fearful that they were going to take herfrom us when fearful that they were going to take her from us when we had fearful that they were going to take herfrom us when we had done absolutely nothing wrong at all.

what followed was effectively five days of what you describe as hell. what was going on in that time? we went to the hospital. my husband was there with the child, they put her under much distress. they were poking her, prodding her, taking photos of these marks. it was really emotionally draining. we were just a lwa ys emotionally draining. we were just always anxious that if someone turns around and says, this is a bruise, they are going to take her from us. and we got no say over defending that, that it isn't a bruise or if it was it is from the delivery. we had no evidence, there was no support for us as parents. we just felt underfire, support for us as parents. we just felt under fire, we felt that we we re felt under fire, we felt that we were being treated as we were guilty already and we had no one to turn to for support or what we would do in this situation. do you accept that a mark ona this situation. do you accept that a mark on a newborn baby has to be looked at? i do accept the bruising

protocol as such. i do think that needs to be in place. however, things need to be is an slightly differently, i feel. i things need to be is an slightly differently, ifeel. ijust beat myself up for five days thinking i have put families who all the stress, i blamed myself because i saw those marks whilst i was in hospital, and because i didn't mention them or say anything about them whilst i was in hospital, and a paediatrician missed it, the midwives missed it, because of that, my family was then going through absolute emotional turmoil, anger, anxiety, and even today, i do not trust health professionals at all now. if i go into is bubble, just look at the one thing, none of you have an actual clue about anything, thatis have an actual clue about anything, that is how i feel. let me read to messages. this is from secret social worker on twitter. great piece on your programme today highlighting concerns over them with medical assessment of infant bruising.

medical evidence is key to this and we are falling way short on occasion, especially when removing children. more research urgently needed. barbara says, i am a social worker and i have experienced a situation where parents are being investigated for abusing their baby daughter. thankfully due to urgent expert medical advice being sought, this was ruled out as the cause of the alleged bruising, and was diagnosed as a side—effect of some medication. i do feel it imperative to get expert medical advice if there is any doubt. jonathan says, asa there is any doubt. jonathan says, as a safeguarding instructor, i a lwa ys as a safeguarding instructor, i always explain the difference between concern and suspicion. this has a positive is that from how people respond to a concern. concern is about the welfare of a baby or child, suspicion is about blame. there is nothing wrong with ensuring that children are not at risk, but there is something quite sinister about suspecting every parent when anything goes wrong. and one more from someone who doesn't leave a name, my son was born with what was called a

mongolian blue spot birthmark. we we re mongolian blue spot birthmark. we were told at his paediatric discharge to photograph it as we may not be believed that it wasn't a bruise in the future, and we may be questioned heavily about how it appeared, which is really interesting. andy billson, we saw you in the film, your concerns. pa rents a re you in the film, your concerns. parents are sometimes wrongly accused of harming their babies as a result of the weather guidelines are being interpreted, and you say” think it's a misinterpretation because the guidelines have interpreted the research on which they are based. i was concerned about the national institute of clinical excellence guidelines, there was a suggestion that a quarter of all the bees would have a bruise if observed over a 4—6 week period, it seems strange they can carry on saying bruising is uncommon against that sort of evidence, it

may be the research is wrong but if it is they need to look at that. let me ringing alison steel from the royal oak paediatrics and child health, in a case for our baby has died, bruising that wasn't picked up as an early indicator was mist?” think that feeds into the guidance along with a body of research and expert opinion, when children are seriously harmed or die, when we look back there has often been a bruise that hasn't been properly assessed and acted upon and obviously surrey important to do that. do you believe medical professionals, health professionals, visitors, social workers, no according to this research in a quarter of babies if they were monitored over six weeks... 7—8 weeks. a quarter would have some sort of mark, bruising? weeks. a quarter would have some sort of n paperruising?

bad. it doesn't say it should be an automatic referral, it says there needs to be an in—depth assessment and bad should be done by a paediatric consultant, paediatrician, with at least 15 years of training. is that always happening, andy? an expert medical professional is brought in for that assessment? the issue for me is the

way the policy down the line works, that come from this guidance, the local safeguarding children all the seas, they say in a small number of local authorities every single child has a bruise should be formally investigated for child abuse, this goes beyond even suspicion, it goes straight to saying there is concern about significant harm, that's a huge thing for people. most of those policies say there should be a referral to a senior paediatrician and whilst that may or may not be a good thing it's done by saying there should be suspicion, we heard the comment earlier, it's moving into a way of looking at these things that isn't helpful and leaves people harmed. do you think there is a better way of doing it so that pa rents better way of doing it so that parents like sarah don't feel immediately under suspicion?” parents like sarah don't feel immediately under suspicion? i think it's very difficult, for

paediatricians in the social worker point of view you are damned if you do and damned if you don't but i think it's important to have comprehensive assessment and listen to parents but as a paediatrician i am working with families, i would not want to upset anybody but at the end of the day i have a baby in front of me and i need to try and ensure they are safe. do you think that's what happened to sarah's case. they were called at what time... 10pm. it's all right to ring at 10pm time... 10pm. it's all right to ring at10pm and said time... 10pm. it's all right to ring at 10pm and said bring your baby in. i don't want to comment on a particular case, that's up to the social worker and police team to decide... would you do that? it would depend on the circumstances whether i think action should be taken at 10pm. the procedures themselves are ruled around, they say a paediatrician was seen within 24 hours, some must say you must call the police if the parent says

they will not take the child. those rules are there for a reason, children have died. yes. and that's true. but what we have is a system that massively over responding to those very difficult and offer cases. and that means many people are getting dragged into it. cases. and that means many people are getting dragged into itm cases. and that means many people are getting dragged into it. in our situation we had been to the hospital already that date. and for me personally what i'd like to see is people who are trained and educated on all different aspects of medical condition that can bring these marks, any possibility is that they may be marked on a child, in my case all us has a vascular condition, it took a skin specialist two seconds to look at her and said thatis two seconds to look at her and said that is a vascular condition, this is not trauma, or a bruise, that was after the turmoil that my family was put through, thanks to me mentioning it, if! put through, thanks to me mentioning it, if i hadn't mentioned at the

health visitor, the midwife, all the paediatricians 15 years experience wouldn't have noticed that because every health professional said to me where is it and i had to point it out to them for them to go home and say, get a call from social services to say potentially the police were coming to take your child if you did not bring her back to hospital now. it really was horrific and we had days of just not it really was horrific and we had days ofjust not knowing what was going to happen with alice and whether she would stay with us. she did. thankfully. thank you all of you for coming in. really appreciate your time. thank you. you for coming in. really appreciate yourtime. thank you. some you for coming in. really appreciate your time. thank you. some footage ofa your time. thank you. some footage of a stand—off between the police and the man suspected of driving that fan into a crowd of people in toronto. get down! get down! hands above your

head! get down, sir! get down! get down! get down, sir! get down! get down! get down! get down! what the bleep brother? the man, who's been named as 25 year old alek minassian, was not previously known to authorities.

according to other footage on line, he was urging police to kill him, no shots were fired, despite the gun being in his pocket. people who came to the uk in the first wave of migration from the commonwealth will be granted british citizenship for free. the government's also announced a compensation scheme for members of the "windrush" generation who've had difficulty proving their status. last week we spoke to nick broderick, who came to the uk as a baby in 1962. he has been fighting for the past four years to prove his legal status and told me he'd considered suicide. it's been pretty bad. it puts you in a very dark place. what do you mean by that? well, i contemplated... suicide, at one time, because i didn't. .. did you? yes, because i didn't

want to go back to jamaica, and sit outside the airport, and wait for the end, you know? i discussed it with my wife. you know? without my children, obviously. we had a little suicide kit ready for me to go. oh, my gosh, that's really shocking, and distressing. it's left me a little bit... even though i've got my license but now can i don't think i'm in the right frame... i mean, the mind to drive again. because it's been such a hell of a time for me. but it's notjust the windrush generation and their families who've found their status as brits questioned. we're going to speak to three people with canadian heritage who've had similar difficulties proving their right to live in the uk margaret o'brien came over in 1971 to be with her fiance. michelle parks was born here but her mum was canadian. and speaking to us from cornwall is mary—ann astbury who's lived in the uk for 47 years. maryann, tell us about what happened to you? in 1983 i had a british passport stamped british citizen in

it, after ten years had expired october last year i reapplied thinking it would be no trouble at all, i actually put my expired passport in that the application, the response from the passport office was it was declined due to me not being a british citizen. you got an apology from the home office on friday? yes, yes. last saturday when the daily mail rented the windrush story is said to my partner, that's me! isaid story is said to my partner, that's me! i said i'm story is said to my partner, that's me! isaid i'm one story is said to my partner, that's me! i said i'm one of the others. so we quickly got onto the press, thank you very much to local radio for your quick response and that is very much for it came from. michelle, when you told you weren't british? and i was 18, i applied for a passport again i was told i wasn't a

british citizen, and then i phoned the home office and they told me i was an illegal immigrants subject to deportation. and you are thinking, how did this happen?” deportation. and you are thinking, how did this happen? i kind of use more colourful words than that but yes. zagreb, briefly, you've lived in the uk for over 40 years, you've got grown—up children. and you were told sorry, there is a problem.” had a letter from the home office february, know it was in the august 2015 and they said i had to vacate the country within ten days or be placed in a holding centre. so you went from someone who is paid taxes, worked all her life to having to effectively report of the home office every few months to show you hadn't gone underground. how did you feel? yes, ifelt hadn't gone underground. how did you feel? yes, i felt like the dirt on the carpet. i felt terrible. i had

to excuse me, i had to report every three months to the home office, i was treated appallingly, i was treated better by the security people there than i was by the actual start. the home office tellers, sorry to interrupt, it's now been sorted and they say you made an application in may 2017, it was issued in september.” made an application in may 2017, it was issued in september. i had a biometric card, replete with the administration photographs and dollar bad i had to pay £250, i'm a pensioner. you should apply to get that back after what the home secretary said the yesterday.” don't want anything as much because i know there are people out there who have suffered more than i have, imeanl who have suffered more than i have, i mean i was appalled when i heard about the windows people, but i'm in

about the windows people, but i'm in a similar circumstance, where my whole life is threatened, it gives you a sense of depression and i mean, i wasn't able person anyway, i just had an operation on my spine. i'm going to push either because that use it means we are coming towards the end of the programme but thank you so much all of you for coming on the programme. tomorrow rose mcgowan, one of the first to speak out against harvey weinstein. thank you for your company. hello and good morning. a lot of cloud across the uk at the moment, some outbreaks of rain for some, not a great picture. this is the scene at the moment in cornwall, sea mist and fog around the south—west, as

mentioned, the rain affecting wales, the midlands, east england, edging its way further north in towards merseyside and greater manchester. further south, some patchy rain perhaps but staying largely dry and further north, some sunny spells and heavy thundery showers with hill across scotland and northern ireland. maximum temperature between 12-14 in ireland. maximum temperature between 12—14 in the north, 15—16 in the south. overnight tonight some heavy rainfora time south. overnight tonight some heavy rain for a time across wales, south—west england, the midlands, anglia, eventually clearing, as we go through wednesday looking at this mixture of sunny spells and blustery april showers. summer hill, some thunder possible. that's it from me, see you in half an hour. during

morning mrs bbc news are easily top stories in developing and 11am. canadian police question the suspected driver of a rented van that ploughed into pedestrians in toronto, killing ten people. the events that happened on the street behind us are horrendous. but they do not appear to be connected in any way to national security. gets down! video shows the gunman asking an armed police officer to shoot him, in a stand off before he was arrested. some tsb customers face a fifth day of problems with mobile and online banking after a recent it upgrade. jeremy corbyn will meetjewish leaders to discuss what he's doing

to tackle anti—semitism in the labour party.