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between france and the us at the end of his three—day state visit. but he has told a press conference that he believed president trump would walk away from the iran nuclear deal next month. earlier, he'd attacked president trump's policies on trade, iran and the environment in a speech to us congress. thousands of germans from different faiths and backgrounds have joined anti—semitism rallies across the country following a spate of violent attacks. many non—jews wore skullcaps — the kippah — as a sign of solidarity. officials in libya are warning of a new migrant crisis in the mediterranean — a steep rise in the number of migrants leaving north africa trying to reach europe. more than three thousand people have been intercepted by libyan coastguards this year — far more that at this time last year.
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now on bbc news, wednesday in parliament. hello and welcome to the programme. coming up: the labour leader calls on amber rudd to quit as home secretary over her handling of the windrush row. the current home secretary inherited a failing policy and made it worse. isn't it time she took responsibility and resigned? but theresa may defends the way her government has dealt with the problem. i have apologised to the windrush generation, and i do so again. we're doing everything we can to ensure that they are reassured, that they do not have the anxiety that some of their generation have had. there's a defeat in the lords for the government over its key brexit bill. meanwhile, david davis accepts that the commons motion on the final brexit deal could be amended by mps. mr chairman, if you can tell me how to write an unamendable motion
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in the house of commons, i'll take a tutorial. but first, the labour leader jeremy corbyn has called on theresa may to abandon what he described as the government's "cruel" immigration policies. the demand was the latest twist in the row over the treatment of the windrush generation, migrants who came to the uk to help rebuild the country after the second world war. many have lost jobs, benefits and entitlement to nhs treatment after a change in the immigration rules meant they couldn't prove their status. at prime minister's questions, jeremy corbyn accused the prime minister of ignoring warnings that her policies would provoke discrimination and create a hostile environment. had the windrush generation not mounted the campaign that they have, had members on this side of the house not raised the matter persistently, there would be no compensation, there would be no review, there would be no apology. can the prime minister send a clear message today and tell us the hostile environment is over and that her bogus immigration targets that have driven this hostile culture will be scrapped?
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the windrush generation have served this country and deserve better than this. the windrush generation are british. they have contributed to this country. they have made their life here. turning to illegal immigration, she quoted labour's yvette cooper when she was shadow home secretary. in 2013, the then—shadow home secretary, the right honourable member for normanton, pontefract and castleford, said "we need much stronger action from government to bring illegal immigration down. " that is... the labour front bench... the labour front bench are saying that the windrush generation are not illegal. they are not illegal! they are here legally! that is why we are providing
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the support to enable them to get the documents for their status. what we are talking about, what the right honourable gentleman, the leader of the opposition is talking about is whether or not we should deal with illegal immigration, and up and down this country, the british public will tell him we should deal with illegal immigration. mr speaker, we're talking about the environment created by her as home secretary for six years when she knew full well, she knew full well the problems the windrush generation were facing. at last, she's been forced to act upon it. last week, the current home secretary admitted the home office sometimes loses sight of the individual. yet we now know that when she took over from her predecessor, her intent was to harden this cruel
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and misdirected policy, pledging to do so ruthlessly. the current home secretary inherited a failing policy and made it worse. isn't it time she took responsibility and resigned? order! the house must calm itself. we've got a long way to go and a lot of backbenchers' questions to reach. let's hear the prime minister. can i say to the right honourable gentleman that up and down this country, people want to ensure that the government is taking action against those people who are here in this country illegally, those people who are here illegally? because it isn't fair that people who work hard day in and day out, who contribute to this country, who put into the life of this
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country are seeing people who are here illegally accessing services in the same way. we are acting to ensure that those people who are here legally are given the support that they need. we welcomed the windrush generation those many years ago. they are british, they are part of us, and we are ensuring that they remain here and are able to continue to live their lives here. well, later yvette cooper, who'd been quoted by the prime minister, stood up. do not try to hide behind me or the labour party when she was warned repeatedly that the damage that her obsession with her net migration target she had was doing. do not try to hide behind the cabinet when they don't agree with you on this and are trying to clean up the mess, and do not try to hide behind civil servants... order!
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i'm not having the questioner interrupted. it will be heard and it will be heard in full. and that's the end of it. yvette cooper. do not try to hide behind civil servants when she set the policies, instilled in them the culture of disbelief. and when the high commissioners told us this morning that they had warned the foreign office about the windrush generation immigration problems in 2016, what did she do? because a few years ago, the prime minister said, "i'm actually sick and tired of a government minister who simply blames other people when something goes wrong." what's changed ? theresa may said all governments had taken action against illegal immigrants, but she stressed the windrush generation were in the uk legally. i have apologised to the windrush generation, and i do so again. we are doing everything we can to ensure that they are reassured, that they do not have the anxiety
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that some of their generation have had. but we also owe it to them and to the british people to ensure we deal with people who are here illegally. theresa may. well, a short time later, the home secretary appeared in front of the home affairs committee and was asked when she knew about the problem. i became aware over the past few months, i would say, that here was a problem of individuals that i was seeing. this was covered, as far as i can see, from newspapers and mps bringing it forward anecdotally over the past three to four months. and i became aware that there was a potential issue. i bitterly, deeply regret that i didn't see it as more than individual cases that had gone wrong that needed addressing. i didn't see it as a systemic issue until recently. and what happened when the high commissioners raised this issue with the foreign office in may 2016? you raised this this morning.
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i'm not clear yet how that was followed up, but i will be looking into it. so you don't know whether the foreign secretary at the time raised it with the home secretary at the time or the prime minister at the time? i don't have that information. i am aware it was raised but i haven't yet got the information that follows up on that. i don't know if you read personally what the lead journalist on this wrote in response to your statement on monday, that actually, she has been and the guardian has been raising, as she says it, on an almost weekly basis for six months the catastrophic circumstances on windrush people. and yet you say you didn't realise that this was a systemic problem until very recently, but you bitterly regret that. how did you not realise it? was it not raised with you? we get a lot ofjournalists and newspapers and mps giving
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us their advice and bringing individual cases to us, and we try to follow up on them, but what i do regret is... a certain small number of individuals who turn out to be part of a systemic problem and i look back in hindsight and i'm surprised i did not see the shape of it sooner, but unfortunately i didn't. did no one in the home office put advice to you to say this is not in individuals, this is a bigger problem? as i saw the individuals before it really emerged on the scale as it did the past ten days, i did ask for some advice, and at that point, i believe the home office was beginning to move into action, but too slowly and too late. so had anyone been deported? the answer to that is not as far as we can see at the moment. we have gone back to 2002. we've got 8000 records of people who could have been in a group, should they have been deported, and it is a fairly extensive
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process, some of it being checked by hand. and everybody‘s been working on it over the past eight to nine days. we've got through 7000 and at the moment, we have not found anybody who we believe has been removed because of that. i recognise that, obviously, we need to finish that process and secondly, when it is finished, i will be going, i will be speaking to my permanent secretary about finding out about independent assurance, because i recognise we also need to give people confidence in the facts as we have found them. amber rudd. hm revenue and customs has denied refusing to assist with an investigation into alleged criminal activity at an international telecoms firm because it had donated to the conservative party. according to an investigation by the website buzzfeed last year, hmrc officials rejected a request from the french authorities to help with an inquiry involving lycamobile, a mobile network operator company. mps took the case up
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with the chancellor during a session of the treasury committee. why are donations to the conservative party relevant to hmrc when considering whether to investigate companies? well, as i've just said, they are not. they evidently are... no, they're evidently not. i am sorry, chancellor, hmrc did deem it relevant in the case of lycamobile when, as simon has already quoted, in their notes to french officials, it said, "it is of note that they are the biggest corporate donor to the conservative party led by prime minister theresa may and donated 1.25 million euros to the prince charles trust in 2012." so in the context of everything else in that note, someone at hmrc has deemed it irrelevant. why on earth? what kind of culture is operating
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at hmrc where an hrc official would deem that information relevant? well, the important thing to reassure the committee is that the decision was made correctly by hmrc lawyers on the basis of the proper assessment on whether the standard of evidence admitted by the french authorities was sufficient for a uk court to issue a search warrant. the decision was that it was not. how that information was then conveyed to the french authorities represents a gross error ofjudgement. philip hammond. you're watching wednesday in parliament, with me, alicia mccarthy. scottish secretary david mundell has said he hopes first minister nicola sturgeon will think again after the scottish government rejected devolution proposals in brexit legislation. scotland and wales had been in dispute with the government over where some powers, currently held by the eu, will go after brexit. politicians in wales said changes had been put forward to the uk government's eu withdrawal bill which would protect devolution, but the scottish government has not accepted what's on offer the snp's pete wishart accused
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the welsh government of capitulation on the issue. it's as no surprise as they have so easily capitulated. we will never stop defending the integrity of our parliament and we will never allow the tories to diminish our problems. this is the case, mr speaker, that the scottish parliament, with responsibilities the uk government has simply overruled the democratic parliament. is that what's going to happen? our position is still clear. we want to secure the agreement of the scottish government to our proposals in relation to clause 11. we have been very clear to my right honourable friend, our door is open, we are hoping that we will have direct discussion with the scottish
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government next week. and we hope that they will change that position and find out as the welsh government had, which will protect the settlement. and plaid cymru's leader at westminster was unhappy with the welsh government's deal too. for the first time since the birth of this, the government has succeeded in clawing back powers which should be held by our national assembly. this allows major consequences for the uk's constitution. liz saville roberts. now to the lords, where the government suffered another defeat on its key brexit bill. peers backed an amendment restricting the power of ministers to change laws without full parliamentary scrutiny. the government had already suffered five heavy defeats at the hands of the lords over the european union bill, which transfers eu law into uk legislation. regulations can do anything, including of course wholesale
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amendment or repeal of statutes that have been passed through the exacting process of primary legislation. whichever side of the brexit argument they stand, people might believe that taking back control would be under the sovereignty of parliament. ministers are answerable for all they do to parliament, and not responsible for all that they do to parliament and they should not be able to decide what is appropriate and what is not. we are saying they can be used, but the government would note that we need the flexibility that, if it's appropriate to tidy things up, well who is taking this decision of it being appropriate? it may be theresa may? it may be borisjohnson? it may bejeremy corbyn? if this is about the government, the judiciary, the legislature, and the balance without the constitution, it is to be respected and protected. if this house has a responsibility, i would respectfully suggest to ensure that we do not give the executive more power than is necessary in order to achieve their objective. i have considered this issue and i think you or chips need to reconsider, that all the other
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limitations currently existing on ministers, and the amendment, but my noble friend is making point does address many of the concerns. when i asked is to consider this, is the government acting in a reasonable way to ensure it has the powers necessary to deliver a smooth and orderly brexit? i understand the notion of appeal, to act is necessary. but it should not be the role of the minister to be a statutory firefighter, the distinction seems instead i would argue, that a more proactive role would be the only way that we can ensure the best possible outcome. but lord lisvane was not persuaded. despite a defence, i am going to ask for them to indicate their views
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and i wish to test their opinion of the house. and when it came to the vote peers backed lord lisvane's amendment by 349 votes to 221. staying with brexit, the brexit secretary has told mps that he expects parliament to uphold the government's policy of leaving the customs union. he also accepted that the commons motion on the final brexit deal expected this autumn could be amended by mps. david davis was making one of his regular appearances in front of the brexit committee. but proceedings got off to a sticky start. my office has told yours, no discourtesy by this, but my next meeting is very important. i just want to make that point at the beginning. i does, i think on behalf
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of the whole of the committee, i don't think i really would do, because part of your responsibilities is to appear before this committee. and i think this is the second occasion where you have said, as far as i'm aware, a specific reason of having another meeting. but the committee has a lot of ground to cover and the sessions are very important to us. in order for us to do our work, and i don't think that is satisfactory. that said, it was on to the serious stuff. can you give an assurance that the withdrawal agreement will be amendable? yes or no. if you can tell me how to write an unamendable motion, i'll take a tutorial.
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it will be amended, thank you very much. it is very helpful to get that assurance. the government is unlikely to put the vote to the house which it does not intend to take seriously. sorry, what does that mean? exactly what i said. if the house rejects the negotiation then, that negotiation will fall. and if the house amends the motion and and instructs the government for example to go back to brussels and negotiate a different deal to the one put before us. the government will respect the will of the house and will go back to. i'm not going to speculate on amendments that have not been made or passed by the house. you've said that a few times this morning, surely you must appreciate the risk of heading towards a constitutional crisis. and surely is the responsibility of the government to have scenarios
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and mind so that it is ready to respond when the house doesn't move. the first response of the government is to promote the national interests. which means, not put yourself in a position where you create options, as i have in the past in this committee, against the referendum because that would create an incentive on the other side to give us a bad deal. so we want a referendum that keeps the in. and similarly i'm not going to give advice to how to create circumstances in which may undermined the government's negotiations. you've emphatically rejected remaining in a customs union. but when the trade deal returns to the house, the house will vote on whether it wishes to adopt a different policy
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to remain in a customs union. if that is carried, if that is carried, you're going to change your policy, aren't you? i'm not going to enter into hypotheticals. if the government is defeated in these arguments, i expect the — i expect the government policy to be upheld. but the chair was clearly still stung by the time limit david davis had imposed on the session. so i trust on the next occasion that will get the date quickly and promptly. and we will be busy questioning you, and on the next occasion you'll respond. i hope will be a satisfactory. an amicable note to end on. labour has accused ministers of a breaking a promise to ensure that no school in england has its budget cut as a result of a funding shake—up. in an opposition—led debate, ministers were challenged to deliver on a guarantee that every school would get a cash increase: the education secretary said
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that the mere repetition of a falsehood does not turn it into the truth. i hope, i hope that his promise was indeed the truth. they have given a guarantee and not a single school will face cash turn chords and budget, if that guarantee stands, then there is no reason they should notjoin me in the comma after this debate. they deserve the best education and the world, and our teaching staff need the resources to do theirjobs. the education secretary said the government was giving schools more money than ever before. we have, madam deputy speaker, the best qualified teachers we've ever had and backed up by the highest amount of money in the schools budget we've ever had. we are protecting schools for funding in real terms,
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over the next two years. and this of the time where peoples numbers are rising and working alongside brilliant sets of teachers and educations, professionals will stop work last education for everyone regardless of background. we have help more children to get into good schools. our primary school children growing up to become better leaders, dana higher—quality qualifications and more than ever to go to university. the government has been urged to take tougher actions against sales of items, made from take for but which turned out to be real. the environment committee has been looking at the sales of items such as, that is been labelled as fake. the items have been sold through shops, markets, and online. but the business minister said that trading standards, it was for the consumer to take action. i'm a believer that there must be an informed choice by the consumer,
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and it is the consumer that must not take up their rights through the various processes that there are against the retailer if the retailer has, i don't think i should say but, if the retailer has served them something that was not what he was intending to buy. there's obviously considerable concern about that, fact that you are, the fact that there is been press coverage of it indicates that, therefore i think it is right that we should look at making sure we can get everything right. and he believes that there will be room awaited tightened the rules after the uk had left the eu. and that's it for me for now, but do join me at the same time
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tomorrow as another round at westminster. but from me, goodbye. hello there. well, we saw plenty of heavy april showers on wednesday. the thursday again a mix of sunshine and showers but not quite as frequent and as heavy as what we saw on wednesday. most of the showers from the word go will be affecting the northern half of uk, whereas further south and east it should be a dry story. lengthy spells of sunshine, actually feeling quite pleasa nt sunshine, actually feeling quite pleasant across the south—east into the afternoon. 15, 16, maybe 17 celsius in london. coolerfurther north—west, especially when the showers arrived. we look to the
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south—west, this next area of low pressure could mean some unsettled weather for the southern parts of the country on friday but an ice bright start in the north. it will stay largely dry apart from a few showers in scotland and northern ireland. england and wales will be pummelled by this area of low pressure, so pummelled by this area of low pressure, so turning wet and quite easy. some of the rain could be heavy through the day and it will feel chilly, temperatures between eight, nine or 11 or 12 celsius. it looks like it could say quite cool in the weekend, with further sunshine and showers. —— stay quite cool welcome to bbc news, broadcasting to viewers in north america and around the globe. my name is mike embley. our top stories: ending his three—day state visit, emmanuel macron says he believes president trump will still walk away from the iran nuclear deal despite their friendship. wearing skullcaps in solidarity. thousands from different faiths and backgrounds join anti—semitism rallies across germany. warnings of a new migrant crisis in the mediterranean.
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