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today at 5: the bbc understands the home office will scrap immigration removal targets. a day after the home secretary amber rudd said the targets did not exist, she's had to admit they do, and she's facing calls to stand down. i have never agreed that there should be specific removal targets and i would never support a policy that puts targets ahead of people. that gives you no confidence whatsoever because they start off saying there aren't targets, then they go on to say that they are fully in charge of the situation, then go on to say they didn't even know what was going on. i'll be talking to yvette cooper, the chair of the home affairs select committee. the other main stories on bbc news at 5: the home of english football, wembley stadium, could be sold. the football association receives an offer worth £800 million. it's been confirmed, president trump will visit the uk thisjuly. returning the favour —
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prince harry asks his brother, prince william, to be best man at his wedding to meghan markle. just how much are we eating? most adults in the uk are overweight or obese, but are in denial. we talk to an expert about how to be healthy. good evening and welcome to the bbc news at 5, i'm jane hill. our main story tonight: the home office is to axe immigration removal targets, a day after the home secretary, amber rudd, said they didn't exist. the targets, for the voluntary departure of people regarded as having no right to stay in britain, have been in place since 2015. the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, has called
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for amber rudd to stand down because of her handling of the windrush affair. jonathan blake reports. another day at the office for a home secretary under pressure. reporter: did your department set regional targets to remove migrants? that and other questions left unanswered after amber rudd faced mps yesterday. the speaker: diane abbott. this morning, labour asked for clarification. the home secretary said she had not set specific targets for the number of illegal immigrants to be removed, but... the immigration arm of the home office has been using local targets for internal performance management. cries of outrage these were not published targets against which performance was assessed, but if they were used inappropriately, then i'm clear that this will have to change. —— used. not good enough for the opposition, who were keen to keep up the pressure on the home secretary to quit. isn't it time that the home secretary considered
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her honour and resign? the speaker: home secretary. i would like to make the very clear distinction between legal and illegal migrants. and when the right honourable lady talks about the windrush cohort, we have already established that the windrush cohort is here legally and this government is determined to put that right. more criticism came from labour. we now understand that people have been removed because of targets, and she said she didn't know. i say, with all conscience, is she really the right person to lead this office of state? but support and sympathy from amber rudd's own side. would my right honourable friend be assured that she has the total support of this side of the house. yes! the total support of this side of the house in trying to resolve a very difficult, very difficult, legacy issue. for a government department to have
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targets is not unusual, as the home secretary pointed out, labour had many of its own on immigration. but amber rudd's initial uncertainty about whether the targets were still in place, and how they were implemented, has led to more questions about whether the government's crack down on illegal immigration led to those with every right to be in the uk being wrongly targeted. one example of removal targets being used is a home office inspection report from 2015. it specified a total of 12,000 voluntary removals, divided into 19 immigration enforcement regions. the home office is scrapping internal targets for removing illegal immigrants and downing street says the prime minister has full confidence in the home secretary. but amber rudd admits she has faced a difficult few weeks and she and the government are trying to get back on course. jonathan blake, bbc news, westminster. with me now is our chief political correspondent, vicki young. well, difficult couple of weeks,
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jonathan said, it hasn't stopped, has it? no, that's right. amber rudd had thejoy of has it? no, that's right. amber rudd had the joy of coming to a press gallery lunch in front of journalists in westminster to make a speech and answer questions. she said there are other places she would rather have been. she acknowledged it had been difficult shech wanted to make changes in the home office and committed to staying in the home office. she asked whether she had considered resigning, whether she offered her resignation to the prime minister. she didn't answer that in a straight way. he she talked about being committed to staying and sorting out the windrush fiasco, as she called it. she said she felt the pain of the people going through all of that. on this slightly separate issue of these targets that yesterday she didn't seem to know anything about. the regional targets for the deportation of illegal immigrants, it's pretty clear they are going to go. she said she had not cleared those and going forward they wouldn't be there. 0k. not cleared those and going forward they wouldn't be there. ok. you mentioned that lunch with
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journalists, i'm sure she would rather have been elsewhere. out of that, though, other matters, all sorts of matters get discussed at those lunches. you were there, the issue of brexit came up? she was on the remain side of the argument during the referendum putting the government's point of view shechl was asked about the customs union. now, this of course has become a real vocal point for the battle in parliament about whether we stay in it. something that looks similar to it. something that looks similar to it. she asked if it was more or less likely we would leave the customs union. instead of repeating the government line, which is, we are leaving. said, we have a few discussions to be had in a really positive, consensual easy amongst some of my cabinet colleagues in order to arrive at a final position. clearly making a reference to the difficult discussions there are. people thought she was reopening the issue we might stay in the customs union. she has clarified that in a tweet, thanking the press gallery
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for hosting her and then said: there are crucial votes in parliament in the next few weeks, thatis parliament in the next few weeks, that is why everyone is interested to know what she has to say about it. before we let you go. before we came on air, confirmation in other matters that president trump is going to be coming to the uk? yes, finally. it was the invitation first given out over a year—and—a—half ago for a state visit. this will be a working visit. it's off the back of the nato summit he will come here in the nato summit he will come here in the middle ofjuly. it's been a very up—and—down relationship with theresa may. she was the first leader to go through the doors of the white house tvment. they were seen holding hands, famously. things went wrong. she criticised him about his views on muslims retweeting anti—muslim propaganda. the question is, how will this visit go down?
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whether there will be protests. whether there will be protests. whether he may meet the queen even though it's not a state visit and how that will go. it will be a tricky one the corping friday for all of this for downing street to organise. yes. thanks for now, vicki young. we can speak now to our washington correspondent, anthony zurcher. how much is being said about this advice writ you are? it's early on. if you remember, donald trump cancelled and an earlier visit scheduled for february when he tweeted he objected to the us embassy that was opening up. he thought it was a bad deal under president barack obama. although, critics would say that he was afraid of the bad publicity demonstrations he would get when he appeared in the uk. it looks like it's back on the table again. we will see how it shakes out here as far as the reception. the way it was announced was interesting. the white house press room , was interesting. the white house press room, it's bring your kids to work day, kids asking questions. it
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was then revealed that this visit would be on. it would be a, working visit, scheduled for 13thjuly. well, get children to ask the pertinent questions. will there be any disappointment expressed that it's not a state visit? do you think there will be openness about all of that? i doubt that there will be a whole lot of openness. obviously, it's a bit of an embarrassment for donald trump because that was a promise that theresa may made to him very early on in his presidency. if you remember, theresa may was the very first foreign leader to visit donald trump after his inauguration. they seemed to have a very cordiale relationship. that was promised to donald trump. it seems it's something he looks forward to. when he went to china he received the trappings of an official state visit and talks about the reception he got there. it made an impression on him. july 14th of last year he went to
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paris and witnessed the parade with emmanuel macron that made an impression on donald trump he talks about that and trying to recipe mra are indicate the fanfare when macron visited washington earlier this week. the trappings of office, something that donald trump does like. i think it will be a disappointment for him to go to london and not get the carriage ride to buckingham palace and not address parliament or get an audience with the queen. we will see if it colours how he talks about the trip and how he tweets about it and the sort of attitude he has going into it. yes. we will see. thanks very much for 110w. thank you. the other main story here today. the home of english football, wembley stadium, could be sold. the football association has confirmed it has received an offer, understood to be about £800 million. the offer comes from the owner of fulham, the american shahid khan, who also owns the american football
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team the jacksonville jaguars. the former england manager, roy hodgson, said the money from the sale should be invested back into the english game. i think that if the fa have made a deal, it would be for the right reasons. it would be because they see that the amount of money that they would get from the deal would be advantagious and it would be spent in a wise way, to help our football in general. i don't think for one minute they would have any other ulterior motives other than the best of football here in england. i enjoyed wembley of course, like all the managers before me, and i would hope that games will still be played there by the england national team. i'd be perhaps a little bit disappointed if it was going to be a question of that's the end of england and wembley, but i don't believe that will be the case. and if it meant thatjust a few other games had to be taken outside of wembley,
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and taken around the country, i don't see that personally as a negative. we can speak to frankie mccamley, who's at wembley stadium. i wonder whether anyone has given you any reaction to this proposal at this stage? well, it's pretty quiet around here at the moment, jane. yes, we are here at wembley stadium the iconic home of english football. the largest stadium in the uk. more than 90,000 seats, this stadium cost more than £750 million to build in 2007. it's up for sale. the fa had talks this morning considering a sale that is worth around £800 million. like you said that man, shahid khan, many people will know him. he's the owner of fulham football club, also the owner of the jacksonville jaguars, the nfl team overin jacksonville jaguars, the nfl team over in the us. according to the
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fulham manager, he's been interested in buying wembley stadium for quite some time. apparently, speaking about it 18 months ago. now if this deal does go—ahead there will be ramifications here. a lot of people questioning then whether this would mean that the jacksonville jaguars would then make their home base here at wembley and what that would mean for the england football team. would they be kicked out of here, travel around the uk. good news for some, bad news for others. we had a statement who said, "we will take ca re of statement who said, "we will take care of wembley stadium at every respect and be good citizens and neighbours in london and beyond." he said this will not have an affect on what is going on at fulham football clu b what is going on at fulham football club and the developments there at kraeven cottage. a spokesman for the fa have come forward to saying that they have been given this offer and bbc sources as well finding out that the fa are planning to put any money from this sale back into grass—roots
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football. as you can imagine, scepticism around that. people questioning the fa have a lot of money already, they haven't seen the money already, they haven't seen the money going to grass—roots football yet. and the big with question is — if the sale does go forward, what is this stadium going to be called? 0h, yes. so many questions. thank you very much. we can speak to richard caborn, who was labour's sports minister from 2001 to 2007 during the construction of wembley stadium. he joins us from sheffield. i hope he's back. he was there. excellent, i know you have been waiting patiently. thank you very much. good to talk to you. goodness, this was built while you were part of that labour government. what on earth did you think when you heard it might bought by an american? well, all due respect, jane, it's not just the well, all due respect, jane, it's notjust the fa, it's not my very good friend mr khan to make that decision. it's a national decision.
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the fa came to the government of the day and asked for £100 million of government money, of taxpayers' money, lottery money as well, to build a national stadium for our national sport. i would suggest that it's not just national sport. i would suggest that it's notjust the fa's decision or indeed london's decision. it is indeed london's decision. it is indeed the government's decision to be involved in this because it's our investment that's gone there. so i think, first of all, we have to say — who is making these decisions? who is the person — no disrespect to the gentleman from fulham making a bid for that. i can tell you when i was the minister there was a number of football clu bs, the minister there was a number of football clubs, london football clu bs, football clubs, london football clubs, who wanted to buy the stadium. the answer to that was no at that time that came to me when i was a minister. i think now it there has to be a discussion about what is the role of the national stadium, for our national game, of which the government put a huge amount of money in at the beginning. if the decision is that they want to do something different with that, they have every right to say that, but
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they haven't just a have every right to say that, but they haven'tjust a right have every right to say that, but they haven't just a right to actually make a unilateral decision and say — we're going to sell it. if they do sell it, and some money goes to grass—roots football. that is great, i'm not against that, the football family itself may decide, yeah, ok we will take wembley over and we will run it for our national game in supporting the football association as well. there are many questions. that's really interesting. you say it should be a national decision. so do you mean that, bluntly, if the fa discusses it as that, bluntly, if the fa discusses itasa that, bluntly, if the fa discusses it as a board and think we could do with the money, we want to do this, do you think the government should step? ? i think do you think the government should step? ? ithink the do you think the government should step? ? i think the government - i for got all the details, jane. i would have to go back. i have been asked to make a comment. if i remember rightly, if there was any sales the payment of the investment the government put in, which i think was £120 million, £140 million should be paid back to the government. it's not for the fa to say — we are now going to put it
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into grass—roots football, as laudable as that is. it wasn't football's money. it was the national money, put into a national stadium for our national game, of which the fa are the custody stowed ia ns which the fa are the custody stowedians of that. they must go back, i would think, to the government, look at that agreement. that £120 million wasn'tjust football money, that was coming out of lottery and the government's money. that should be paid back to the government. lots of interesting thoughts in that. i mean, could it work? if it goes through, i cake on board your caveats, could it work running an nfl team alongside some english football as well? i mean, the practicalities of that seem pretty complicated ? the practicalities of that seem pretty complicated? very much. so i agree that if we build a national stadium for our national game, therefore that should take primacy of fixtures the fa cup, the nonleague cups that play. there was a caveat put into that for football
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— for rugby league as well. it wasn't just football. it was 7555 run i football, e national stadiumrunforfeetbalk also'ggggg sports national stadiumrunforfeetbalk alsong sports could national stadiumrunforfeetbalk also'ggggg sports could use other could ‘ we want to of fulham and the with the owner of fulham and the 5? league with the owner of fulham and the {eh league that is a secondary rugby league that is a secondary issue. really interesting to talk to you. there are many more questions i could ask. i wish we had time. thank you for your initial thoughts there. the leader of the scottish conservatives ruth davidson has announced she is pregnant. ruth davidson says she's excited to be expecting herfirst
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child with partnerjen wilson. the baby is due in late autumn. her deputy, jackson carlaw, will step in while she takes maternity leave. ms davidson has revealed she's suffered from some morning sickness and at one point had to leave the holyrood chamber just before a session of first minister's questions. i have had fatigue and gnaws ya and dizzy spells and all the rest of it. trying to do everything that i was doing before, and keep up the pace, so doing before, and keep up the pace, so people couldn't tell, just until we knew everything was ok and was going to be ok has been a bit of a struggle. but i don't think anyone has noticed. that's quite good. hopefully, it means i've been doing everything fine. some of the other stories making bbc news at 5. two italian men have been charged over violence before
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the champions league semi—final between liverpool and roma, in which sean cox, 53, was left seriously injured. 20—year—old filippo lombardi has been charged with violent disorder and grievous bodily harm and 29—year—old daniele sciusco is charged with violent disorder. the number of cars made in the uk during march fell by 13.3%, compared to the previous year, as domestic and overseas demand for vehicles declined. the society of motor manufacturers and traders said poor weather had affected production, and the drop was of "considerable concern." the number of violent crimes recorded by police in england and wales went up by 21% last year compared to the year before. the figures, published by the office for national statistics, show a significant increase in knife and gun crimes and burglaries. the figures don't include this year's knife attacks in london. leila nathoo reports.
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any thoughts as to why we're seeing a rise in knife crime? it's 24 hours after the latest stabbing in their area and these young people, in south—east london, have come together to debate one of the most pressing issues in their community. the fact that it's being reported more means that we can discuss it. we can have these kind of discussions, and we can actually get together and try to find solutions to it. because honestly, even if one person gets stabbed in london, that's one person too much. they're here to talk about causes, solutions, their experiences. growing up, violence has always been close. i remember playing in my local park and i got chased out of my park by a knife. it's so common and it's just so normalised nowadays. you get told when you are younger, this person got stabbed, he's dead. this person, when it came to gang wars and postcode wars. it'sjust something you lived through. it was something that you knew you had to survive. and when you were told to run, you would run. the latest figures show the problem isn't going away. overall, violent crimes recorded by police in england and wales increased by 21% last year, compared with 2016. knife crime was up 22% and gun crime was up 11%.
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police also recorded a sharp rise in vehicle thefts and burglaries, too. like this, one captured recently on cctv in stourbridge. there are two sets of crime figures out today. a survey of people's experiences, that also captures offences not reported to police, shows a broadly stable picture. but police data reveals what's happening at the serious end of the scale, where there's a surge in violence, largely here in london and in cities across the country. already this year the situation is worsening in the capital, with a spate of killings. there is still a problem and i think one of the biggest challenges is the number of people, and particularly young people, who either feel the need or the desire to carry a knife with them. because in many of the offences that we see, where you get somebody injured, both the victim and the offender and others there are carrying weapons.
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the government recently launched a new strategy to tackle serious violence. they want to focus on prevention as well as policing and tightening up legislation around weapons. but rosheda, who works with young people, thinks it's a complex picture. we can't have a discussion which is just about one point of intervention. it's notjust about stop and search. it's about families, it's about education, it's about austerity, it's about a long—term strategy and looking at, how do we live in a climate that is able to facilitate, essentially, a mass murder of thousands of young people on our streets? everyone is looking for answers. how to solve a problem with such devastating consequences? leila nathoo, bbc news. the parents of the terminally ill toddler alfie evans are meeting doctors at alder hey hospital in liverpool to discuss taking their son home. the 23—month—old has a degenerative brain disease, and was taken off a ventilator
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on monday, after his parents' latest attempt to take him abroad for treatment was dismissed by the court of appeal yesterday. let's talk to dr pat carragher, who is medical director to children's hospices across scotland and is chair of the association of paediatric palliative care. very good evening to you. good evening to you. terribly difficult case, of course, but you, by definition, encounter a lot of cases like this. what can be done for a child who is so desperately ill at this stage? thank you for the opportunity to answer your question. yes, there are about 54 children's hospices across the uk and ireland and all of us are involved in this really challenging work and there's so really challenging work and there's so much that can be done for youngsters like alfie. i will not speak about him in particular obviously, but anybody working in
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this situation is keen to get things as right as they can for the child, for their parents and for their extended families. we work, in my own organisation, and with other organisations across the uk, looking to try and provide care, either in children's hospices, in hospitals themselves or quite often now within themselves or quite often now within the child's home. there is a lot that can be done in this situation. is it about of course making sure that the child is as pain—free as possible, for example, but is it also about helping the parents and helping them understand what is happening at a desperately difficult time? all those things it's, actually. it's pain and other symptoms. it's very important, when we are involved in the care of a child at home we have holistic care going on. it's about medications and making sure pain is relieved and breathlessness is helped, but also being there with the parents of the child and extended family, sometimes brothers and sisters. it's a big
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thing if you have been in hospital for a long time and you have a chance to be at home with your child evenif chance to be at home with your child even if they are in the last days or hours of their life. it's a desperately difficult situation, but a lot can be done to help parents, both at that time and eventually looking forward. i mean, perhaps you could elaborate. what sort of help? what can your staff do? what do they do and say that can help parents? well, the first thing is they have experience of actually being in this situation before. this is usually unique for a parent or both parents and so it's sitting with them. it's knowing what symptoms to expect. talking them through what to expect. particularly if breathing becomes more difficult. trying to help tell what brothers and sisters to understand or extended family. really, having the opportunity to build a bit of are poor with that family at that stage and help them through this, i don't know, how challenging it must be, but a really difficult time for them and to work with them in the moments after their child dies. these are often both
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very difficult moments, but also to see your child very peaceful. you maybe need help with that. it's very good to hear your perspective and thank you for your expertise. thank you. you are watching bbc news. we are still waiting of course for the name the new royal baby. but we do have the name of prince harry's best man. our correspondent, jonny dymond, is at kensington palace. i'm tempted to say, i'm not sure i was very surprised. should i have been surprised? i don't think you should have been surprised. as you say, we don't have the name of the baby. we are all waiting for that. there is a legion of frustrated royal correspondents waiting for that. we have the name of the best
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man, it's prince william. it's harry's brother who will be his best man at the wedding on 19th may. not the world's biggest surprise first of all because prince harry was prince william's best man in 2011 when he married catherine middleton. we know the brothers are exceedingly close and have been for many, many yea rs. close and have been for many, many years. now there was a little moment of hesitation back injanuary when prince william was asked whether he was going to be the best man and he said, "i haven't been asked yet." most people presumed that it would have been a serious family snub had prince william not been asked, leaving aside the fact the two of them are very, very close indeed. one small fact, it's actually something of a revolution to have a best man. it's a new generation thing. the previous generation, that is to say prince charles and prince ed wad didn't have best men they simply had supporters because that is the royal way. this is a new generation. prince william and
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prince harry have broken the mould and did and will have best men. they have chosen each other to do the job. all right. thank you very much. jonny dymond there at kensington palace. it looked decent out there. let us find out what the weather is wherever you are here in the country tonight. louise leark tell us. there have been showers around, it is april. showers to the north and west. not as much thunder as we had this time yesterday. one or two pushing across england and wales. that is where the best of the sunshine has been today. i hope you managed to get out and enjoy it because it's all change tomorrow. the cloud and rain will arrive from the south—west. this means business through tomorrow. it will bring a fairamount of through tomorrow. it will bring a fair amount of cloud across england and wales, we keep the skies clear further north. it will be a chilly start across eastern scotland are temperatures close enough perhaps down to freezing. we start off
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tomorrow bright with sunshine through scotland, northern england and northern ireland. that will be the best of the weather. the rain will be a nuisance. it continues to drift northwards bringing showery outbrakes of drift northwards bringing showery outbra kes of rain drift northwards bringing showery outbrakes of rain to the midlands and the north of england by the afternoon. an inch of rain could fall in places. great news for the gardens, not great if you are out in it. top temperatures under the cloud and rain of eight or nine. this is bbc news — the headlines. the bbc understands the home office will scrap immigration removal targets, a day after home secretary amber rudd said they didn't exist. the home of english football, wembley stadium, could be sold — the football association receives an offer worth £800 million. it's confirmed president trump will visit the uk — injuly. and... returning the favour — prince harry asks his brother prince william to be best man
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at his wedding to meghan markle. sport now with will perry. good afternoon. fulham owner shahid khan has made an offer, thought to be worth £800m, to buy wembley stadium from the football association. it's understood khan would pay £500m for the stadium and the fa will continue to run the club wembley hospitality business, valued at £300 million. the fa board have discussed it at a meeting today. khan also owns nfl side jacksonville jaguars who have played games at wembley already. bbc sport understands selling wembley would allow the fa to make a major investment into football
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at grassroots level. but some are like roy hodgson have concerns. i enjoyed wembley of course like all the managers before me andi course like all the managers before me and i would hope that games will still be played there by the england national team, and i would be disappointed if it was a question of thatis disappointed if it was a question of that is the end of england and wembley. but i don't believe that will be the case, and if it meant a few other games had to be taken outside wembley and taken around the country, i don't think that is a negative. liverpool have requested an "extraordinary meeting" amid security fears over the champions league semi final second leg in rome next week. liverpool fan sean cox remains in a critical condition after being injured by italian fans. violence flared as liverpool beat roma 5—2 in tuesday's first leg at anfield. liverpool's officials will meet roma and uefa representatives in rome to discuss any ongoing concerns.
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steven gerrard is on the shortlist to become the new manager of rangers asa to become the new manager of rangers as a possible replacement for graeme murty. steven gerrard was capped 114 times by england and a member of the liverpool side which won the champions league. he is working as a coach at the liverpool academy after turning down mk dons after he retired in 2016. what a game in the europa league tonight. arsenal take on atletico madrid in the semi final with the first leg at the emirates which is where we find our sports correspondentjoe wilson. arsene wenger says it would be an "anti climax" were arsenal not to win the europa league, you wonder whether the timing of the announcement that he's leaving is partly to inspire his players ahead of this huge tie? notjust to inspire the players but also the supporters, and when we look at arsenal over the last years, they have been out of sync, the supporters were not sure where they
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dare to inspire the players or vice versa, could the manager inspire either group these days? what we have seen in the europa league, arsenal have saved their best performances for this tournament, think about the victory in moscow, the victory over ac milan, scoring 29 goals in the competition so far, it feels the main players have seen this at their —— as their stage to perform. what we have with the timing of that decision, this is this evening arsene wenger‘s last european home game, a great opportunity for arsenal unity. diego simeone is yet to lose an away european match in england as atletico manager, and this is a side who are above real madrid in la liga. absolutely. atletico madrid have become used to playing in the
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champions league semifinals and finals, let alone the europa league, although they have won this tournament twice in the last decade. one intriguing thing that atletico have thrown out, the possibility diego costa might be fit to play, and the idea that diego costa might be playing against our store is enough to put some worries in the minds of the arsenal defenders —— against arsenal. they have griezmann in attack and wales have a great defensive record, hardly conceding at home in la liga and so arsenal have got to be brave this evening —— and they have a great defensive record. thanks forjoining us. the venues and fixtures for next year's cricket world cup have been decided today — england will begin against south africa at the oval on may 30th. lord's will host the final and the semi finals will be played at old trafford and edgbaston. but london stadium will not have any games.
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it was being considered with a drop in pitch. however it was deemed too much of a risk and potentially too expensive. all the details on the bbc sport website. that's all the sport for now. you can find more on all those stories on the bbc sport website. that's bbc.co.uk/sport let's return to our top story — as downing street insists it has full confidence in the home secretary, amber rudd, despite fresh calls for her to resign. ms rudd told mps yesterday there were no targets for removing illegal immigrants from the uk — but she explained to the commons today that there had been local targets, for measuring performance. labour said she should resign as a matter of honour. it's understood any local targets will now be scrapped. with me now is yvette cooper — labour mp — and chair of the home affairs select committee.
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good evening. theresa may says she has every confidence in her home secretary, do you? as the chair of a cross— party secretary, do you? as the chair of a cross—party select committee it is not for me to pronounce on individual members of the cabinet and we take a cross—party view on it, but what is the case is that the home office is in a mess and we heard from not just home office is in a mess and we heard from notjust the home secretary but also a senior official yesterday that there were no targets for removal is and then we heard this morning that there were targets and then this afternoon that the targets were being abolished. people will recognise that some of the things that amber rudd is dealing with our decisions and policies that we re with our decisions and policies that were put in place under her predecessor theresa may but nevertheless we expect her to have accurate information and we expect problems to be dealt with especially when we have these very serious things that have happened to
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windrush families that everyone agrees, it has been appalling the way they have been treated. the fact the targets are now going to be scrapped, does that help deal with some of the hurt around the windrush issue? in terms of the windrush cases the most important thing is that we get some clarity about how compensation is going to work and what is being done to resolve cases because there are still people who are being threatened and told they are being threatened and told they are here illegally when they aren't. those cases have got to be resolved, but there is also a wider issue regarding the targets, all of this is held together by the net migration target that the prime minister set and that means there is an incentive on the home office to get people out of the country whether they are here legally or not, whether they have been here for a long time or not, because that
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helps them towards their numbers on the net migration target. the select committee has recommended that the net migration number should be replaced, and i think the government should stop it. this is a further reason for them to get rid of that target. you said things at the department appear to be in a mess, so department appear to be in a mess, so therefore going forward, what does your committee want to see happen now as a matter of urgency, what are the priorities now? the most urgent priority i think is providing the support and help that windrush families need them and we asked the home secretary yesterday about the possibility of giving people independent legal advice and legal aid in order to sort their concerns because some people just do not trust a home office helpline no matter how well intended it is. we will discuss as a committee what further action needs to be taken but ido further action needs to be taken but
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i do think the removal of the net migration target which is undermining confidence in the whole system, and also the home secretary was right when she said you need to put people back into the system, you need to understand that this is about individuals and their lives, you have got to take their decisions and accurate decisions and get rid of the mistakes, but also recognise when you get things wrong it is people's lives that are badly affected. —— take their decisions for the wendy you want the home secretary backing fun if your committee? —— when do you want the home secretary back in front of your committee? we still want to know how many people have been affected, family people have not had health ca re family people have not had health care and harmony people have been detained as a result of this —— how many people have not had health care and how many people have been detained as a result of this. we need more information and what is
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being done next to make sure there are no further groups caught up in this, and there is a wider issue around appeals and the lack of appeals in the system and some of the other hostile measures that the government has put in place. yvette cooper, thanks for joining government has put in place. yvette cooper, thanks forjoining us. yvette cooper, check the home affa i rs yvette cooper, check the home affairs select committee. —— chair of. bbc news understands that talks between the uk and spain — over the future of gibraltar airport — are deadlocked. the european union has said no agreement on its future relationship with the uk — after brexit — will apply to gibraltar without madrid's consent. so what are the main sticking points between spain and the uk over the future of gibraltar? here's the bbc‘s reality check correspondent chris morris. one thing that shared membership of the eu has done is take some of the sting out of the long—running dispute between the united kingdom and spain over gibraltar. here it is — this is the rock itself. and when i say long—running, sovereignty of gibraltar was handed from spain
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to the british crown and queen anne in 1713, the treaty of utrecht — a decision spain seems to have regretted ever since. it is still mounting a diplomatic and political campaign to restore some form of spanish sovereignty. the uk and gibraltar say that will not happen. but the eu's official guidelines on the brexit withdrawal process, say that after the united kingdom leaves the union, no agreement between the eu and the uk may apply to gibraltar without a separate agreement between spain and the uk. what does that mean in practice? a spanish veto? spain says it doesn't intend to make up the sovereignty dispute with the brexit process, but it does have some demands. most of all it wants joint management with the uk of gibraltar airport, which, as you can see, is next to the spanish border. the airport has always been a focus of dispute because spain says that unlike the rock, the land here was not transferred to british sovereignty back in 1713.
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joint management could also help ensure gibraltar remains part of eu aviation agreements. but when does joint management become joint sovereignty? the distinction and the language used really matters. spain also has other concerns. gibraltar‘s tax regime, for example. corporation tax in spain is 25%. in gibraltar it isjust10%. spain says that is not fair, it wants change. again, when does that become an issue of sovereignty? british and spanish officials have been holding bilateral talks on gibraltar. mps in the house of commons are watching very closely. without some kind of deal on gibraltar in the withdrawal agreement over brexit, this british overseas territory might not be included in the transition period after brexit. in gibraltar itself and in london, that would not be acceptable. so the search for a solution is on. that was chris morris.
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our europe correspondent gavin lee is in gibraltar and sent us this. there have been seven sets of negotiations and spain has a voice in this, of course, because what is happening with the eu and set for top looking around, you get a sense of the britishness, the pubs and the postboxes, and bobbies on the beat. spain says it is not pressing for reclaiming sovereignty, going back 300 years, they are doing that to the channel of the united nations, but they say chiefly they want to johnnie managed gibraltar airport —— jointly manage what they believed the path was not ceded to them 300 yea rs the path was not ceded to them 300 years ago. let me get a sense of
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what was at stake. i can talk to the chief minister of gibraltar, what is the voice that you have in this debate? there cannot be any agreement in anything like this without agreement from the people of gibraltar, and there's not really any discussion with gibraltar, gibraltar is not at the table. spain say they want to johnnie managed gibraltar is not at the table. spain say they want tojohnnie managed the airport and they don't recognise this because it was built on by the balderdashjointly this because it was built on by the balderdash jointly manage. —— this because it was built on by the balderdashjointly manage. —— built on by the border. does spain have an argument that they should join the manage the airport question —— airport spain agreed that the n'zogbia air terminal
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-- spain agreed that the air terminal should be built here. this was under the agreement over the airport or stop the spanish said they want the airport to be inside and the british say that they could work it outside but at the moment they are not seeing eye to eye, what is at stake? we're not going to acce pt is at stake? we're not going to accept that not just that sovereignty should not be on the table, and any other aspects in that regard, but not going to tolerate sovereignty jurisdiction regard, but not going to tolerate sovereigntyjurisdiction or control being anything on which we compromise. there was talk of a deal before october, summer, the spanish foreign minister said, but that seems to have been dilutive, so you are hoping there can be a deal? —— diverted. gibraltar wants to make
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sure we have the strongest possible links with all of the eu and in between are our closest member state and partnerspain and between are our closest member state and partner spain and we also want to make people's lives easy despite being out of the eu. that is what we have been elected to do, and the spanish politicians need to think about the people they represent, and surely we must try to understand each other to make sure brexit causes less problems going forward and not more problems. chief minister, thanks. before brexit, the old foreign minister said if there was brexit they would hoist the spanish flag on the rock, and the current government so, they talk about having a free flow of the border and that is reflected in the people here, who feel they may be 0k, people here, who feel they may be ok, may. there are still worries because this could hold up brexit. —— they may be ok, what may.
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because this could hold up brexit. -- they may be ok, what may. gavin, thanks forjoining us. this is bbc news at five — the headlines: the bbc understands the home office will scrap immigration removal targets, a day after home secretary amber rudd said they didn't exist. the home of english football wembley stadium could be sold — the football association receives an offer worth £800 million. it's confirmed president trump will visit the uk — injuly. facebook has admitted that it did not read the terms and conditions of the app which improperly shared the data of millions of users with the political consultancy, cambridge analytica. the company's chief technical officer, mike schroepfer, has been speaking to mps. here's our media editor, amol rajan: they wanted mark zuckerberg. this is
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the most senior executive to appear before mps, the was at times positively hostile. will you apologise for the bullying behaviour? i'm sorry that journalists feel we are preventing the truth getting at, that was not oui’ the truth getting at, that was not our intent. facebook is amorality free zone, distracted to a destructive right to privacy, you are the problem, your company is the problem. what do you say?|j respectfully disagree. he did accept that the company did not look at the thames and the conditions of the app in which the data was harvested ——
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the terms and conditions. you are players. you are notjust the terms and conditions. you are players. you are not just a the terms and conditions. you are players. you are notjust a neutral platform, you are players.|j players. you are notjust a neutral platform, you are players. i believe in strong open political discourse and we are trying to make sure that people can get their messages across and it is not for us to decide who is the right candidate. in washington two weeks ago mark zuckerberg was an apology mode, this candle has led to an explosion in public awareness of how personal data it exploited online and that was recognised today —— this scandal. we have made mistakes and i think other companies have done bad things but the idea that consumers don't have control over their data isa don't have control over their data is a big problem and one i care about. with nearly $5 billion in profit this year this data scandal has not hurt facebook financially yet, but trust in their brand has been damaged and changes in the air. the public are wising up to the value of their own personal data and
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lawmakers are jostling to proving they have the power and the mandate to clip this company's wings. mark zuckerberg avoided the gruelling but his next imitation webby far—away. —— went the far—away. —— would be far—away. —— won't be far—away. the majority of adults in the uk are overweight or obese according to national surveys, yet research suggests we are as a country in denial about our weight. as part of a special bbc season on obesity, tv presenter chris bavin has been finding out ‘the truth about obesity‘. all maximize our chances of keeping trim. i'll be speaking to him in a moment, but first let's have a look at one of the problems highlighted on the programme. we have laid out a banquet and will be looking at what each person has had for lunch. hours later he asked them to vista what they remember eating. it is time to see how much
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they have eating compare to what they have eating compare to what they reported eating —— ask them to write down. you are consuming 17% more food than you reported and that equates to 120 calories in a sitting. over the course of the day that can build up into 300 calories and that can make a substantial difference of that is repeated over time, it can shift someone from being at normal weight to overweight and possibly a base will stop —— possibly obese. as a nation we're eating 30—50% more food we think every day according to michael's research. studio: laughter and chris bavin is here with me in the studio. that is fascinating. that wasn't a tray of cakes and sweets, as well, this was normal lunchtime sandwiches. everyday food, but we
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are sandwiches. everyday food, but we a re really bad sandwiches. everyday food, but we are really bad at understanding and knowing what we have eaten. the more you are eating, the bigger you are, the less likely you are to understand what you are eating and how many calories you are consuming. that is one strand of it. so many of us are that is one strand of it. so many of us are overweight in this country which is terrifying in terms of diabetes and the impact on your heart and joints. and yet, how come we are in denial? i'm not sure if it is denial. weight gain is gradual for many people so people don't actually know they have got into that obese category. it can build up slowly. it creeps up on you, absolutely, but it is a very complex area. solving it will be equally as complex we have got to look at the landscape and environment in food and also genetics, which they
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believe may play a part in about 40-50, believe may play a part in about 40—50, maybe more comment is of how much weight you put on, this is about your heritage and background —— maybe more, in terms of how much weight you put on. it is notjust about the motto eat less and move more. that might be simplistic. doesn't that work? laughter yellow to an extent, but there is much more at play. as part of your work into this programme, are you offering advice on how to prevent reaching that point in the first place? absolutely. we look at the science behind how we get to where we are, what influences have got us to the situation where one in four people in this country are now obese and if we don't drastically change that,
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that could get to one in two in around 20—30 years, so that is serious. we have got to look at how we get to where we are, and there are ways of telling whether you are obese, not by using bmi which does not take into consideration weight distribution, but it is about where you are carrying it, around your midriff could be more detrimental to your health, for example. so we have got to look at the health indications and then there are tips and advice as to how to help if you find yourself carrying too much weight. what about people who have been told this and they know they are not meant to eat two muffins in the morning, but they are eating on the morning, but they are eating on the run and they are in a hurry and they can't help themselves. any hard and fast solutions? we only have an hour so we can't find solutions for
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everything. it is a very complex issue, but hopefully everyone can find something in the programme that will help them. the thing is, if you are suffering with your weight to the point where you are obese, you are not completely blame. there are other factors involved but you are not completely helpless either, so there are positive changes you can do. sometimes the small changes can add up to a big difference over the course of a prolonged period of time. chris, i cannot talk to you any longer, which is a shame because i have similar questions, but thanks for joining i have similar questions, but thanks forjoining us. and you can see chris's programme "the truth about obesity" tonight at 8pm on bbc one. time for a look at the weather. what you need is some blue sky and sunshine to get out and do some
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exercise, and we have had some today, not bad across england and wales, including fewer showers, today, not bad across england and wales, including fewershowers, but also some threatening sharp showers and thunderstorms as well. the sky looking pretty ominous for the most of the showers have been through scotla nd of the showers have been through scotland and northern ireland today, and there have been a few further south but that is where the most frequent heavy thundery once have been so far today. as we go to the evening, most of the showers will go back to the far north because we have got the arrival of this system are gradually pushing into the south west, not very heavy, but persistent. it will stay with us for most of the day, through cornwall and south wales, through dorset into the midlands, and further north we keep blue sky and sunshine and is likely to stay through the afternoon. as we go through the morning there will be showers, just in time for the morning rush hour, and then it will push north of the
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m4 corridor, another one waiting in the wings can so it is a dismal day. the rain could stay in place from a chip the day. not too bad in the far north ash for much of the day. crime is will really struggle. —— temperatures will really struggle. if we are lucky we will get 8—9, so it will feel pretty grim. the rain will be easing away first thing saturday morning, but it is worth noting that the wind direction will come from the northerly direction, so come from the northerly direction, so this is a cool air flow and that will have an impact across the country, so there will be sunny spells and scattered showers. a fairer manner cloud —— a fair amount of cloud. we could do a lot better in terms of temperatures. not much change on sunday, more cloud on the east coast and the best of the
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brightness further west, and at the end of the day there is the threat of some really heavy rain are pushing up across south—east england and that might linger through eastern england for much of monday. this is the forecast for the weekend. sunshine and showers for most, and there will be a cool breeze and a chance of heavy rain later in the south—east. fresh calls for the home secretary to resign over the immigration row as downing street insists it has full confidence in her. amber rudd says she'll scrap immigration removal targets — despite denying their existence yesterday. i have never agreed that there should be specific removal targets, andl should be specific removal targets, and i would never support a policy
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that puts targets ahead of people. isn't it time that the home secretary considered her honour and resigned? we'll hear from one family being torn apart by immigration rules. also tonight: a sharp rise in violent crime in england and wales last year — with knife and gun attacks on the up. donald trump's first presidential visit to britain is announced — he'll arrive on friday 13thjuly.
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