hello, it's friday, it's nine o'clock. i'm chloe tilley — welcome to the programme. an iconic moment in the troubled history of north and south korea — the north korean leader crosses the border for frank talks on denuclearisation. in the last few moments, the two leaders planted a commemorative tree and they're now holding historic one—to—one talks in full view of the cameras. new rules mean people using porn sites will soon have to give personal details to verify their age. it's designed to protect children, but will it work? whether we like it or not, porn has become sex education. the main sex education for many kids out there. i guess that is the background to why so many people are panicking now and going, like, what should we do? critics say it's an invasion of privacy. what do you think? do get in touch. comedian bill cosby is facing a jail sentence of up to 30 years, after being found guilty of drugging and molesting a woman at his home. bill cosby, three words for you.

guilty, guilty, guilty! we'll hear from #metoo campaigners on what it means for the movement. hello. welcome to the programme, we're on bbc for an hour and live on the news channel until 11 this morning. so should preventing children from watching porn be a priority? or is it an invasion of privacy to make adults who want to use porn websites put in personal details such as driving licence or credit card details? what about fears that that information could be stolen by hackers? we're talking about new rules which will mean if you want to watch porn online, you'll have to prove you're over 18. so what do you think? do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning — use the hashtag victorialive and if you text, you will be charged

at the standard network rate. our top story today... the leaders of north and south korea have met for the first time in over a decade. in unprecedented scenes the pair held hands and symbolically stepped twice over the concrete blocks at the line that officially marks the border between the two countries. kim jong un and president moon were meeting for a summit between the two countries at the village of pan—mun—jom at the village of panmunjom in the demilitarised zone. —— the village of panmunjom. in the last half an hour the two leaders have planted a commemorative pine tree in the village before walking around the area together the leaders have now been chatting on a wooden platform in the demilitarised zone for nearly 30 minutes in full view of the cameras. andrew plant has a round up of this morning's historic meeting. a north korean leader setting foot in south korea for the first time

since the korean war, more than six decades before. kim jong—un shaking hands with the president of south korea, the start of a historic meeting with international interest high, in a secretive regime that is, suddenly, seemingly more accessible. the finest details already defined. they will face each other across 2018 mm of table, symbolising the year. and overlooking the meeting, a mountain, the symbol of reconciliation, designed to reflect the summit‘s slogan — peace, a new start. we should have a positive meeting, he says, and positive results. and, going forward, we should be determined to meet more frequently, and then we can make up for lost time. the world's major powers will be watching — north korea's nuclear programme part of the focus. kim jong—un has indicated a willingness to stop testing. but will that translate to an end

to its weapons programme, or is this part of north korea's entrance onto the international stage as an established nuclear power? proposed talks with president trump could come in the future. a meeting with the chinese leader has already happened. today's meeting the result of months of improving relations between north and south, two countries still technically at war. this meeting ending with speeches and a tree—planting ceremony using soil and water from both sides of the border. after years of increasing tension between the two countries, a relatively sudden softening and, many will hope, a more open and receptive north korea. andrew plant, bbc news. our correspondent, celia hatton, is with me now. what is fascinating about this is it

looks like there are quite a few and choreographed things going on, like discussing for half an hour in full view of the cameras? absolutely. lots of planning went into this summit. we heard about the symbolism of the soilfrom summit. we heard about the symbolism of the soil from both sides, the water from both sides of the soil from both sides, the waterfrom both sides being used to plant the tree. there is a lot of very detailed planning, but at its heart are two men who have never really met before, who are getting to know each other and trying to build a personal relationship and those things really cannot be planned to the last second. if you look at the language that has been used, particularly by kim jong—unin been used, particularly by kim jong—un in recent months, so aggressive, yet two men here are laughing and smiling, they look like they quite like each other? that is they quite like each other? that is the really interesting thing. they are essentially from the same part of the world, they speak the same language and moon jae—in, of the world, they speak the same language and moonjae—in, the south korean leader, has staked a lot of his political career on forging positive ties with the north. he has

a lwa ys positive ties with the north. he has always said he believes that the way forward. he will not show up to this summit with a very frosty demeanour. he is really under pressure to make sure that he establishes a really good relationship with the north korean leader but, yes, what is amazing is the north korean side, their language has really changed. months ago we were hearing all sorts of threats, last year we had north korea's biggest ever nuclear test and here we are watching a summits where the two men from the two sides are planting a tree together. it is remarkable. kim jong-un was joking he was sorry if the military tests had kept president moon up, incredible. we know this is symbolic, is it likely to achieve much? wejust symbolic, is it likely to achieve much? we just do symbolic, is it likely to achieve much? wejust do not symbolic, is it likely to achieve much? we just do not know. if we go backin much? we just do not know. if we go back in history, the clinton administration signed a nuclear deal with kim jong—un‘s father, which faulted and went nowhere and then

north korea went further with its nuclear development programme than ever before. we just do not know if north korea essentially is willing to give up its nuclear weapons. will it do that and go along the path of real engagement, really getting involved in the international community, or is kimjong—un going to do what his father did before him, signa to do what his father did before him, sign a nuclear deal, get lots of money and eight and then renege the deal and go even further along the deal and go even further along the path? lots of people think pyongyang has already achieved its nuclear golds, it has the weapons in its back pocket which is why it can agree to know more tests, it does not need to do any more testing. thank you, celia hatton. annita mcveigh is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. good morning. if you want to watch online porn, you will soon have to prove you're over 18. the government say the law is being changed with the aim of protecting children. critics say there are fears it will threaten users' privacy, and there's doubts over whether it will work.

there's still confusion as to how it will be enforced. american comedian bill cosby is facing up to 30 years injail, after being found guilty of three counts of sexual assault. the 80—year—old was the first major black actor on a us primetime tv show, and is best known for starring in the 1980's tv series the cosby show. around 60 women have publicly accused cosby of sexual abuse, and some of them were in court to hear the verdict. here's our north america reporter, nada tawfik. bill cosby‘s accusers were overcome with emotion after the verdict was read. this moment was once unthinkable, but now a reality. they rejoiced because bill cosby will now go to prison for his crimes — but equally, because the women who spoke out against him were finally believed. we were so full of emotion. 0ur emotion was exploding like a volcano. we were trying to hold in our gasps ofjoy, of disbelief, because we weren't expecting that.

for years, allegations against the comedian fell on deaf ears, never denting his lovable, wholesome image. he was the most—watched man on television, an upstanding moral figure, america's dad. in recent years, more than 50 women came forward to accuse the comedian. but andrea constand's case was the only one that could be prosecuted. last summer, the first trial ended with the jury deadlocked after 50 hours of deliberations. justice has been done! this time, the second trial took place after the me too movement swept the country, and five additional accusers were allowed to give evidence. bill cosby has managed to contain his emotions throughout this trial. but, after the verdict was read, when the prosecution asked the judge to immediately detain him, bill cosby let out a profanity in frustration. this was a stunning fall for a man who was such a treasured part

of american culture. bill cosby may now spend the rest of his life in prison, now as a reviled former star. 35 nhs trusts have accused the home office of putting patient safety at risk by blocking visas for around 100 indian doctors. the medics were due to start work this september, but their visa applications were rejected because the quota for skilled migrants was already filled. the home office says that around a third of available visas already go to the nhs. the trusts have told the bbc there will be a greater risk of errors if existing doctors have to work longer hours. the parents of the seriously ill toddler alfie evans are hoping to take him home following their long legal battle with alder hey children's hospital. his father, tom evans, who has been fighting to take his 23—month—old son to italy for treatment, has said the family wants to be left alone to build a relationship with the hospital, and provide alfie with the dignity and comfort he needs.

plans are being made for donald trump to meet the queen when he visits the uk onjuly 13th. while talks with theresa may will be high on the agenda, it's his audience with the queen that is likely to grab the most attention. the bbc understands that they will meet either at buckingham palace or windsor castle. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9:30am. in the next few minutes we will be talking about the changes to the law surrounding accessing online pawn, $0011 surrounding accessing online pawn, soon you surrounding accessing online pawn, soon you will have to prove you are over 18. the idea is to protect children. james and facebook says censorship via the back door in the name of protecting children, who can bypass must age restrictions. fiona says i think it is a great idea. i do not want my kids to access porn because it is proven to affect

relationships and warp young brains. those who think porn is acceptable have nothing to hide and will not mind handing over their details, have nothing to hide and will not mind handing overtheir details, it is long overdue, although i believe it will not be long before there are ways around it. do get in touch with us throughout the morning. use the hashtag #victorialive. and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. let's get some sport — steve wyeth is here. good morning. let's talk about arsenal's woes. arsene wenger, his last european night at the emirates, it went as so many have done in the past decade or so? you are so right. the occasion should have been the ca ta lyst the occasion should have been the catalyst for a memorable evening, but instead the old too familiar feelings of frustration at the emirates despite playing with a man advantage for 80 minutes, arsenal could only manage a 1—1 draw with atletico madrid in the first leg of their europa league semifinal. it took an hour of alexandre lacazette took an hour of alexandre lacazette to finally give arsenal something to show for their dominance, missed

chances punished. antoine griezmann took advantage of uncertain arsenal defending. an away goal for atletico to ta ke defending. an away goal for atletico to take into the second leg and they have not conceded at home in any competition since january, so a big task for arsenal next thursday. this deal is on the table to buy wembley stadium, many of the papers are not happy. the man who wants to buy it wants to do a pretty quick?‘ dealfor wembley worth buy it wants to do a pretty quick?‘ deal for wembley worth around £900 million is with the football association from the fulham owner. he thinks the matter could be resolved within the next three months. he also owns the nfl team the jacksonville jaguars, who have played home games at wembley in the past. their autumnal blizzards could become more frequent. a major international and domestic football would be played at wembley but the fa say they could reinvest the money in grassroots football. as you can imagine, plenty of reaction from the

world of football this morning. gary lineker believes the deal would have to benefit the next generation of players, with new and improved facilities. the respected football rights henry winter has pointed out that any increase in nfl at wembley might mean taking england games on the road, potentially where the atmosphere is better, which could be another source of encouragement. but what benefits for the nfl and khan? we want to host as many nfl games there, but the jaguars will want to play there. we think it is part of out play there. we think it is part of our identity and part of our winning. finally, do you enjoy a round of golf? what might you consider a hazard? a bunker, deep breath, water? spare a thought for those playing the new orleans classic, taylor gooch of america was not keen to play his shot in such

close proximity to an alligator! 0n social media later he said i like my life with all my limbs, so i stay away from those things. i hope he was grateful to the official who came to his rescue. that is all the sport for now, back later. i'm not sure throwing a rake at a crocodile is the best thing to do! speak to you later. good morning. we're going to talk about an adult subject now — and you may not want children to watch. the uk's porn industry is about to change forever. soon, if you want to watch porn online, you'll have to prove you're old enough to do so. the government say it's to protect children. but there's confusion as to how it'll be enforced, fears it could threaten users' privacy, and doubts as to whether it'll even work. newsbeat reporter nick rotherham has been to meet porn stars and producers — as well as people who watch porn — to find out what they make of the change. and a warning again — that there may be some material in this film you don't want children to see.

the film lasts just over 13 minutes. my first stop is a flat above an off licence in watford. i've come to meet industry newbie, pax. i wanted to see how the people making porn films felt about having an age block on their work. nathan, nice to meet you, too man. director? er, yeah, director. so, you're the one calling all the shots tonight? i'm gonna try. do your family know that you do this? they do now. i like to think if i avoid things they don't exist or they will go away. it isn't like that when it comes on the internet. i have a 19 year—old brother. how old was your brother when he saw it? he was 18, i think, yeah. do you think the legislation coming in here that might stop people below 18 from accessing it is a good thing? i don't know.

ever since i've been growing up you can see porn on the internet. and that seems like a little bit too late, if you ask me. but, i mean, i'm not fully against it. wouldn't have helped me in my situation anyway. to try to stop children from watching films like the one being shot tonight, the government's going to make all porn sites verify the age of each of its visitors. director nate reckons that would be bad for business, but nate may have no choice. if he doesn't check the age of his visitors his site could be blocked in the uk. i could potentially be in the streets peddling porn. like, hey, buy my stuff, man. now, if somebody is in the street, going, would you like to watch porn? what's your name? and it's, like, whoa, whoa dudejust like let me watch it in peace. i like it. i like it a lot. what do you think‘s going to stop it working, then? as much as policing it is needed, how do you police the people? it's impossible.

unless you start literally every single household in the whole entire world, asking them who was it before you log in, here is your password. before you log on. there is no way to police it. even then, your dad falls asleep in front of a laptop. you think, i'll have a go on that. 0h! what is he looking at? now you've watched something accidentally. you can't stop it. it's impossible. i feel like, i don't want kids watching my porn. a lot of porn stars, they have children themselves. i'm sure they don't want their friends watching their porn. you spoke to harley, she told you that she's got relatives who she doesn't want seeing her porn. i'm putting up porn for you, i'm putting up porn for him, i'm putting up porn for you guys. does that mean then that i should spend more money, or, like...

you know? be governed in such a way because apparently irresponsible for clearly telling people, don't go on my site unless you're18. is porn victimised, does that annoy you? it is annoying. but it's one of those things where you can't... it's, like, who do you explain it to? you'd think as human beings, what would you rather see, a nipple, ora beheading? you'd think no one would say that's on the same line. you might see a nipple on the bus, and never want to see a beheading on the bus. do you know what i mean? that's society for you. violence is all right, but sex, consensual, free loving sex, oh no. pax and his friends seem to feel like porn was being picked on. i wondered if there was anyone who knew what that felt like. my next stop was the headquarters of dreams of spanking the kinky site that was temporarily shut down by another change in the law. its founder is the queer pornographer and self—proclaimed spanking practitioner, blake.

hello. come on in. beastmaster. blake's site was shut down in 2014, after the government banned any videos that show spanking, which left a mark. but blake appealed the decision and won. now the government are getting involved in porn again, does it feel a bit like deja vu? yeah, itjust feels relentless. it's really kind of demoralizing. and, like, i've been trying really hard since then to kind of persuade them not to do it, or to try and make it less bad but they're just not listening. at the moment it looks like it's going to go through with all of the kind of risks that we've been warning aboutjust completely in place. blake's biggest worry is what private companies might do with your details once they've checked your age. so if you're going to want to look at my website, after this comes in at the end of the year, you're going to have is

to prove you're over 18 by submitting some kind of i.d. to some kind of verification service. so like a credit card, passport, driving licence. revealing a lot more information than you currently would watching porn. exactly. and then it depends on whether you trust that age verification provider to keep your information safe. so you are worried there could be companies harvesting people's data that perhaps aren't to be trusted with it? it's inevitable. i mean the biggest porn company in the world is called mindgeek. and they own all the cheap sites. they built an age verification system. so now they're going to be the gatekeepers of access as well. so if they do end up being able to compile this database of everyone's porn browsing activity, both on their network and across the wider internet, through their age verification system, it's going to be the most hackable list of what people like to look at ever. do you remember the ashley madison case? the dating website that was hacked. and people literally killed themselves, like, two people committed suicide. so i don't think it's outrageous to say fear that is what we could be facing here. like, actual loss of life.

mindgeek‘s age verification can't store any data. and anonymises all of its users. talking to blake made me realise just how much opposition there was for the new regulation from people making porn. it didn't seem possible, though, that a big change like this was happening for no reason. if it was all about protecting children, then who were the children that porn was hurting? i'd been invited to safer lives in leeds, an organisation which helps men with problematic sexual behaviours. i was here to meet carl whose early relationship with porn had led him down a dark path. i was probably year 7, year 8. so that's, what, 13? about 12, or 13. it was a strip poker game. so every time you won a hand she'd undress, or whatever. but as time went on that didn't work for me. it took me about 10, 15 years to get me from that stage.

i grew up through the development of the internet. it got easier and easier and easier to access harder and harder and harder types of porn. i'd go to school and i'd be thinking, i can't wait to get home and watch some porn. it was the same thing with when i started viewing the really extreme stuff. i couldn't wait to get home and watch it. when it reached the worst of the worst, i'd started viewing images of young children. and i hated myself for viewing these things. but then i'd go back to it. i didn't want to go back to it but i did. it's devastating because this person has gone through hell. and i'm watching it. hating myselfjust because i felt like such a hypocrite, you know, doing this thing.

this awful thing. and then going to chat to my mates, and my sister, and stuff. i'm just, like, how can you do this? if it stops, you know, a young kid from viewing it, because there's an age restriction and they‘ re unable to go past that stage, then that's great. but if somebody wants something badly enough they will get it and they will find it. hearing carl's story made me realise the impact that watching porn at an early age can have. for carl, porn started him on a journey that led to a prison sentence. but that seemed pretty exceptional. back in watford pax had invited me to meet a couple of his mates, ricky, and darrell. it was a chance to ask what people outside of the industry thought of proving their ages when they watched porn.

a personal question, but do you guys watch porn? 0ccasionally. i'm not a huge porn fan. you know? but occasionally, yeah. more than i should. lonely times out here. so bringing in this new legislation, age verification, which means that you will have to prove you are over 18. i mean what do you guys think? that's totally spot on. if i said that you would have to put in your credit card details, your driving licence details, your passport info, what would you think? that's kind of an invasion of privacy as well. it invades... because people don't want to actively sort of like say they're watching porn. and if you're typing in your details, your credit card details, and they have your address, your name...

yeah. people can, what's the word, con you. all they have in place already hasn't been a deterrent for kids, we need to do something else. i think more open dialogue. so rather than talking about bank cards, etc., let's start reaching kids who are being traumatised right now. pax seems torn. 0n the one hand he agrees children shouldn't be able to access porn online. but then he uses social media to build his fan base and sell his films. these are platforms that you can access from 13 years old and the new law doesn't seem to do much to prevent adult content from being shown on them. i wanted to meet the woman in charge of online safety in the uk. government minister margo james. there could be an argument that if children are stumbling across pornography then it will be on social media platforms. yes, i think that's a good point. we do have issues with some social media platforms, which, you know, people are uploading their own pornographic content. i think we're taking the view that if the main purpose of a social

media platform is completely other than pornographic, for the time being we are not going to subject them to the same requirements. might a by—product of that be pushing more porn on social media? well, there are sometimes unintended consequences from legislation. so i wouldn't rule anything out. and they might think twice about wanting to do that because it would mean that they would have to establish age verification across the entire platform. the majority for which, you know, wouldn't be requiring it. so i think there's a bit of a disincentive for social media platforms to actually see this as some sort of opportunity. regardless of whether people are in favour of the new law or not, there seems to be some acceptance that it's not going to protect all children.

i've come to barcelona to meet erika lust who wants to solve the problem of kids watching porn by having a conversation. she's also an erotic filmmaker. let's talk about it. let's get it out there. the problem with porn is not the sex. that's not the problem. the problem is not that people are having explicit sex. the problem with porn today is that most of it has so many bad values. sexist values. racist values. and what they are proposing this whole age idea, check in, that is obviously having a lot of problems when it comes to people's privacy. whether we like it or not, porn has become sex education. the main sex education for many kids out there. i guess that is the background to why so many people are panicking now and going, like, what should we do? porn has taken over the internet.

we have to close it down. we can't let all these young people learn from porn. but you know they are already doing that. what is effective is, you know, put the money in sex education. in literacy. talk to them about it. that will change their perceptions about sexuality. we will be talking about this further after 10am. lots of you getting in touch with your thoughts, keep them coming in. paul says any child wanting to view porn can use a search engine to look for images. direct access to porn site is not required. another viewer says too many sites based abroad cannot be controlled, which are accessible without proof of age. most of the

sites which can be regulated require some sort of payment, normally by credit card, so they are already age restricted. it is time people realise, especially politicians, that the internet is worldwide and as such cannot be controlled on a country by country basis. do get in touch with us anonymously, we appreciate you sharing your thoughts on this, parents should ta ke thoughts on this, parents should take responsibility for what their own children are doing online, it should not be up to the government to enforce rules because parents can control their children. anonymous says i am over 18 and have watched pornography for years. my pa rents would watched pornography for years. my parents would never accept that i do this and that is why the demand to give personal details is a fear, because what if e—mails come and it is discovered, or in the future it can be leaked to sabotage job interviews etc? i think it is an invasion of privacy and parental controls can protect children from porn already. i never had the sex

talk, porn has taught me more than anyone else ever did. please keep your thoughts coming. still to come, the leaders of north and south koreas are in the midst of historic talks. we'll have the latest from from the demilitarised zone between the two countries. and the father of seriously ill toddler alfie evans says he wants to build his relationship with the hospital he has been locked in a legal battle with. we'll be discussing the ethics of the case. time for the latest news — here's annita mcveigh with the bbc news headlines this morning. the bbc news headlines... the leaders of north and south korea have met for an historic summit in the demilitarised zone on the border between the two countries. when the leaders met in the border village of panmunjom they held hands before crossing the concrete blocks that mark the border between the two countries. after holding private talks the two leaders planted a commemorative pine tree and watered it with water gathered from both sides of the border and mixed together. north korean leader kimjong un

and south korean leader moonjae—in then talked in full view of the watching media cameras on a wooden platform. the summit will conclude with the leaders signing an agreement and delivering a joint statement before dinner. includes the economy has grown by 0.1% in the first three months of the year. it the period where economy was hit by the heavy snow, the so—called beast from the east. the american comedian bill cosby is facing up to 30 years in jail after being found guilty of three counts of sexual assault. the 80—year—old actor, best known for the cosby show, had been on trial for drugging and molesting

former friend and basketball player andrea constand in 200a. around 60 other women have publicly accused cosby of sexual abuse. he now faces up to thirty years in prison. internet users wanting to watch online pornography will soon have to prove they are over 18. the government say the law is being changed with the aim of protecting children. critics say there are fears it will threaten users' privacy, and there are doubts over whether it will work. there's still confusion as to how it will be enforced. 35 nhs trusts have accused the home office of putting patient safety at risk by blocking visas for around 100 indian doctors. the medics were due to start work this september but their visa applications were rejected because the quota for skilled migrants was already filled. the home office says that around a third of available visas already go to the nhs. the trusts have told the bbc there will be a greater risk of errors if existing doctors have to work longer hours. the parents of the seriously ill toddler alfie evans are hoping to take him home following their long legal battle with alder hey children's hospital. his father, tom evans, who has been fighting to take his 23—month—old son to italy for treatment, has said the family wants to be left alone to build a relationship with the hospital, and provide

alfie with the dignity and comfort he needs. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. thank you very much, annita. now steve has the sport. arsenal have blown a great opportunity to ta ke have blown a great opportunity to take control of their europa league semifinal, conceding a late antoine griezmann goal to draw 1—1 against atletico madrid. the man who wants to buy wembley stadium says a deal could be done within the next three months. shahid khan has bid around £900 million to ta ke khan has bid around £900 million to take wembley khan has bid around £900 million to ta ke wem bley after khan has bid around £900 million to take wembley after the fa's hands. cseh standing is back on the agenda with the man in charge of the football league saying the fans can create a powerful voice which could be heard in a bid to change the law —— safe standing. and what about this for a golf hazard, an alligator on the course

at the new orleans classic?! american taylor gooch getting help from an official and a rake to make sure it headed back into the water. that is all the sport, more a little later. thank you, steve. extraordinary scenes. in the early hours of the morning, the leaders of north and south korea greeted each other with a handshake at the border between their countries, ahead of an historic summit. kim jong—un is the first north korean leader to set foot in south korea since the end of the korean war in 1953. he even, briefly, held hands with president moonjae—in, and in an unexpected gesture, invited him to step back over the demarcation line into north korea before the two headed for talks in a south korean military compound. you can see them walking back over. this meeting between the north korean and south korean leaders would have been unimaginable just a few months ago, with kimjong—un saying he had a nuclear button on his desk, and nuclear weapons that had the entire united states

within range earlier this year. but now, in a visit loaded with symbolism, both men are speaking of a future in which they can catch up for lost time. they say they hope the world is paying attention to this "spring" on the korean peninsula. these were kim jong—un's words as their talks began. translation: we should make as much time possible. and we should meet as often as possible. and if we can get our heads together, then the 11 years lost can be made up. and if we can open our hearts to speak, and if we can draw a positive result from this meeting, that would be good. there was applause at his opening words and president moon affirmed the significance of their meeting.

translation: all the world watching for this meeting. and the people of south korea and north korea. and the korean compatriots all over the world. they are watching. and so much burden on our shoulders between us too. you are the first one who crossed the demarcation line, committee chairperson. this is like a symbol of peace. and the expectations of all of the world are on us. light talks and laughs lightened the mood at the meeting, where the two leaders talked for nearly two hours before lunch. kim said he was filled with emotion. it seemed president moon could not stop smiling. after the morning session, a south korean spokesman said

the two leaders had had a "sincere and frank dialogue over the denuclearisation of, and the establishment of permanent peace on the korean peninsula". they signed a symbolic agreement, and kim jong—un offered to visit seoul "at any time" he was invited. late in the afternoon the leaders have planted a commemorative tree, a 65 year—old—pine, on the military demarcation line — the formal border between the two countries — with a sense of coming together, positivity and optimism for the future. the tree itself dates from 1953, the year the korean war armistice was signed. the soil and water used in its planting were taken from both sides of the border and mixed. a symbolic move representing peace and prosperity. and as the sun began to set on a quite momentous day — this. the leaders wandered down through the demilitarised zone

to this outdoor seating area. and sat. and chatted for more than half an hour. remarkable pictures. well, this all comes just weeks before kim is due to meet us. president donald trump to discuss denuclearising the korean peninsula. it's not that long ago that mr trump described kim as ‘a little rocket man'. this statement came from the white house this morning. "we are hopeful the talks will achieve a future of peace and prosperity for the entire korean peninsula. the us appreciates the close coordination with our ally, the republic of korea, and looks forward to robust discussions in preparation for the planning meeting between president trump and kimjong—un." the foreign secretary borisjohnson is at a nato summit in brussels this morning and gave his reaction to the meeting. very encouraged by what's happening.

i don't think anybody looking at the history of north korea's plans to develop a nuclear weapons would want to be over optimistic at this point, but it is clearly good news that the two leaders are meeting. absolutely. let's talk now to sung—yoon lee, who is a professor in korean studies from the fletcher school in boston. anna fifield joins us live from the summit on the north/south korea border. she's a bureau chief at the washington post. peter ward is based in seoul, and writes for an independent news source on north korea called nk news. in light of the pictures we have seen in light of the pictures we have seen and the relaxed move from the leaders, how optimistic are you about these talks, sung—yoon? leaders, how optimistic are you

about these talks, sung—yoon7m leaders, how optimistic are you about these talks, sung-yoon? it is quite moving, the overflowing of bonhomie and to korean solidarity, reassuring words on peace and reconciliation and denuclearisation, it is high drama and, indeed, if the summit wasa it is high drama and, indeed, if the summit was a fictional play it would be commendable as of the fulfilment of the aristotelian unities of act, time and place. it is high drama but we have seen this movie player before, not just once we have seen this movie player before, notjust once but twice. kim jong—un comes across as a reasonable global every man with whom the world can do business, and in the meantime he marches down the nuclear path so that he may one day perfect his own nuclear policy review. anna, you are there at the summit, we can see all the journalists behind you. i was surprised people by what looks like two men getting on and having a bit of a laugh? ——

how surprised people? it looks like they get on. i sat among korean journalist this morning when kim jong—un came across that line. it is a very significant moment in the peninsular, even people who are rightly sceptical about how this nuclear deal can stick any more than others. the fact that these two leaders from technically enemy countries can come together and smile and talk about making progress isa smile and talk about making progress is a huge change from the missiles and threats we were seeing last year. i think people want to be hopeful even our history has so far taught them to remain sceptical. peter, what are your views? sung—yoon just explained that we have been here before, history tells us we can have been here before, history tells us we can have meetings like this but it does not necessarily move further towards peace. what are your

thoughts on like an —— in light of seeing today's pictures?|j thoughts on like an —— in light of seeing today's pictures? i think the threat of war felt more real until a couple of months ago than it has done at any time in recent history. the trip administration has successfully created an atmosphere ofa successfully created an atmosphere of a potential for military action on the peninsular which i think has had an impact on inter—korean relations. the enforcement of unprecedented sanctions has also played a part. this two factors, i think, are... i am interested to pick up on that, i am interested to get the views of sung—yoon and anna ahmad, do you think kimjong—un has been forced to the table because of the likes of the sanctions was talking about, or as celia hatton said earlier, he has his nuclear weapons, he has what he wants, he can come to the table? this is a

typical phoney peace ploy following a protracted period of relentless provocation. after that ballistic yearin provocation. after that ballistic year in 2017 when kim jong—un really showcases nuclear capabilities, and now to presume a new years day 2080 the north korean dictator had a change of heart, an epiphany and decided to be a nice guy going forward , decided to be a nice guy going forward, that would be a rarefied form of mental exercise —— and now to presume on new year's date 2018. he is stealing from his daddy's playbook from the early 20005. kim jong ill met the south korean leader and paid a visit to china, he then spent a special envoy to bill clinton and him to pyongyang, paid a visit to putin. by doing all this,

the second kim was able to buy time to advance his nuclear missile capabilities and also received hundreds of millions of dollars in unconditional aid from the richest countries of the world. this is what kim jong—un i5 countries of the world. this is what kim jong—un is doing countries of the world. this is what kimjong—un is doing right now. coming acro55 kimjong—un is doing right now. coming across as a reasonable, not an abnormal leader so that he may buy more time and money with which to perfect his nuclear 5trategy. anna? i think this is partly true. the trump administration has had an effect. i also think that kim jong—un is feeling confident, he is feeling strong. he is showing he has a thermonuclear weapon. he made incredible advances in his missile programme. at the end of the year he declared this had been completed. i think this fits with the statement

he made at the weekend, that he was prepared to suspend the programme. that image we saw today did not look like a man under pressure. he strolled into south korea smiling and trying to make nice with president moon. i think this is part ofa president moon. i think this is part of a bigger strategy. i don't think he has gone to give up his nuclear weapons. i think he is trying to make it look like he's going along with this process to get some sanctions relief. there are reports that china has stopped implementing sanctions on the border quite so strongly. and make it look like he is playing along. peter connelly you're nodding? —— peter, you're nodding? your guest is spot on. they tested ballistic missiles on a dozen locations last year. does this look like a country about to denuclearisation i don't think so.

it says they willjoin global efforts to denuclearisation. they will potentiallyjoin the npt regime again asa will potentiallyjoin the npt regime again as a nuclear state. you know what i mean. i'm interested then, if you are all in agreement that there i5 you are all in agreement that there is no way north korea has got to give up its nuclear weapons, i5 is no way north korea has got to give up its nuclear weapons, is that not a dangerous game that kim jong—un i5 not a dangerous game that kim jong—un is playing ahead of meeting president trump? we think of the rhetoric that has been surrounding the relationship prior to the agreement of the meeting? to date, all that kim jong—un has offered the world is verbal palliatives. kim jong—un saying that going forward is now agreeable to talking about denuclearisation, for now he won't fire off any missiles, the5e denuclearisation, for now he won't fire off any missiles, these are mere utterances or the desire, the

will to abstain from prohibited activities. these are banned activities. these are banned activities under more than ten un security resolutions. it is a strange formulation. why not north korea? in north korean parlance, denuclearisation of the korean peninsula has a specific definition, di5lodging the united states from the region. get american weapons out of there so that north korea would be poised to prevail over the other korean state, which is marked —— from attractive, legitimate and much richer. kim has a plan. the biggest powers in the region have always been reacting to the spin coming out of pyongyang. this is a dramatic play. we will see how this play5 this is a dramatic play. we will see how this plays out. thank you all for speaking to us. i'm sure we will revisit it in the

near future. coming up... you'll soon have to prove you're over 18 to access pawn online. we'll have a special report with those on both sides of the barricades in the battle over porn. britain's economy grew by 0.1% during the first quarter of 2018, the office for national statistics says. the figures included the period were economic activity was hit by the bad weather. andy verity is here. were we expecting it to be that bad? no, we weren't. we were expecting 3.3% growth. to get 0.1 is quite a serious difference. it is having an affect on the markets. where is for example an hour ago the markets were predicting we would get an interest rate rise next month to slow the economy down, now the

odds—on that have dropped to less than 50%. this is because the office for national statistics has just told us that we only have growth of 0.1%. more seriously perhaps, growth per person, in other words dividing all the —— economic activity by the number of people, dropped in the first quarter of this year. that is serious because it is only if you get growth per person that you get growth in living standards. you can't do both of those things. in construction, there was some effect from the snow, as there was in retail. one doesn't want to overstated. you are getting slower growth across the board, notjust on those days when the beast from the east moved in. this is a very serious marker, they economic growth is looking weaker than people predicted. thank you. for the last few months on this programme, we've been following the story of alfie evans — a 23—month—old boy with a degenerative neurological condition. he's been in hospital since december 2016, where he was admitted after suffering seizures.

alfie's parents and the hospital have clashed over what should happen to alfie, who has been in a semi—vegetative state for more than a year, with doctors saying that keeping his life support in place is not in the boys best interest. on 20 february, a judge ruled that doctors could stop providing life support for alfie. the parents then began a further battle to take alfie to italy for treatment which was also turned down. yesterday, the parents said they wanted to rebuild a relationship with the hospital. let's talk now to dominic wilkinson, professor of medical ethics and consultant neonatologist. and barbabra rich, a barrister interested in the better public understanding of high profile cases like this. thank you ever so much for coming in. iwant thank you ever so much for coming in. i want to begin by asking dominika in. i want to begin by asking dominik a couple of questions. i'm sure people who have followed this

case may have some questions. first of all, if alfie is not on a ventilator any more, is their any reason why you wouldn't be able to go home? well, i think the hope of health professionals, and indeed what is now possible in a way that wasn't before, would be framed to potentially leave hospital, for children in the final stages of their illness, it can be incredibly valuable for them and their family to be out of the hospital environment, to be in a homelike environment. and sometimes that can be possible at home. it doesn't happen overnight. it sometimes needs specialist equipment and support from community nursing teams. and sometimes it can take place in a hospice. we have some of the very best children's hospices in the world in this country. they provide

amazing support to take care of some of the sickest children, who medicine can't cure. the question of whether he should go home or to a hospice is one that the family and the hospital are working through. barbara, i want to bring you in. there has been such toxic debate and divisive debate in this country. clearly people get very emotional when a very small child is involved. why do you think particularly this case has become so toxic? first cani case has become so toxic? first can i say, i agree with you. nobody could not be moved by such a tragic story. and i'm glad that the legal proceedings have come to an end and hope for peace and privacy for the family, as they have asked for. it was very similar in the case of charlie gard, and equally sad story of an infant with an incurable illness last year. and i'm troubled

by the extreme and divisive nature of the debate. i think it's wrong for people to believe that there is an unbridgeable divide between those in the legal profession, the legal system, who have to be driven by reason, and those who express themselves driven by emotion. i think that is, to some extent, an imaginary divide. everyone is instinctively protective of the sanctity of life. that is a very strong instinct for everyone. but it isn't an absolute. and i think that isn't an absolute. and i think that is sometimes not realised. i think one of the first cases about whether a court should ever agree to somebody's life—sustaining treatment being withdrawn was tony bland, the

boy crushed at hillsborough and who was ina boy crushed at hillsborough and who was in a vegetative state. when that case went through the courts before social media. one of the judges, he said that the court's decision had to be capable, had to be something that was capable of acceptance by ordinary people on an ethical level. and i'm very troubled by reactions that i read which are clearly not expressing acceptance on an ethical level of the court's decisions. this has been an issue because we know from statements from the nhs trust that hospital staff have received death threats. they have had abusive messages. as awful as it is for the pa rents of messages. as awful as it is for the parents of alfie evans, it is also very distressing for the medical tea m very distressing for the medical team is working with him, and clearly forming a bond with him, day in and day out? these health

professionals have dedicated their professionals have dedicated their professional lives to the care of children. the last thing that they wa nt children. the last thing that they want is a situation of being in conflict with families. they want desperately to be able to say... the sad fact of medicine, despite our medical advances, is that some children have illnesses that we can't cure, we can't make better and they will die despite our very best efforts. and when we recognise that, as the doctors and the medical team have recognised in this case, then we need to make sure that we provide the very best care for that child at the very best care for that child at the end of their life. briefly, barbara, do we need to make sure that we do more to bridge the gap between parents and medical staff?

there is an enormous need for understanding, for people to understanding, for people to understand the rule of law under which we live is something that defence all of us. it protects us. it is not some cruel, arbitrary, remote system. we have to leave that. thank you. we can get some weather now. thank you. we have got a lot of rain across england and wales. it is not across england and wales. it is not a great april day. this isjust one of the scenes. this is lyme regis. that is a familiar scene across much of england and wales. further north across scotland and northern ireland and the far north of england it is right at the moment. a few heavy showers developing. dry weather in the south—east. that rain will move its way back in, drier conditions

towards wales and south—west england later this afternoon. maximum temperatures struggling at seven to 13 degrees. that is below the average. through this evening and tonight we continue with this rain across many eastern areas of england. further north and west clear spells. a slow start to the weekend. rain affecting england and wales. it will get brighter in the afternoon. it will feel quite cool. temperatures struggling again in single figures. bye—bye. thank you, simon. lots of you getting in touch about whether it should be right that you have to prove you are over 18 to access online porn. an e—mailfrom sue. my online porn. an e—mailfrom sue. my kids have been brought in a time when kids have been prolifically accessing porn from school. the girls are expected to act like porn stars, disrespected by boys. a whole

generation is messed up. these porn users need to be quiet and recognise that the kids of the future are confused about appropriate sexual relations. a tweet from nick. age verification restrictions are com pletely verification restrictions are completely unworkable in the real world. if you don't want your children to see anything objectionable, it needs to be blocked at the home route. you need to make sure the parents put the restrictions on. mickey says twitter is full of unrestricted and accessible pawn, it is impossible to police. —— accessible porn. another view says i would never submit my driving license or credit card details even for a free site as they can so easily be hacked. i believe they will be circumvented by dark web

browsers. hello, it is 10am, i'm chloe tilley. it is friday. our top story this morning... historic scenes on the korean border. kim jong—un becomes the first north korean leader to cross into south korea over the military line that's divided the two nations since 1953. he was greeted by his south korean counterpart moonjae—in with warm handshakes and smiles. the two leaders are holding talks on denuclearisation and the prospect for peace on the korean peninsula. the uk's porn industry is about to change forever. soon if you want to watch porn online, you'll have to prove you're old enough to do so. does that mean then that i should spend more money, or be governed in such a way, because apparently i am responsible for clearly telling people do not go on my site unless you are 18? well, the new rules are designed to protect children but how will they work?

we'll get reaction. and a man is in court today, suspected of being the notorious golden state killer, who terrorised california during the 19705 and 805. he was caught thanks to websites that help trace your family tree. let's cross over now to the border between north and south korea, because we can see president moon and also kim jong—un, because we can see president moon and also kimjong—un, the north korean leader, have just signed a deal. we know they have been having talks overnight, our time, deal. we know they have been having talks overnight, ourtime, daytime in korea. they have had very warm relations, they have been very relaxed, they have been chatting, they have had smiles, they have been shaking hands. we saw they had been talking that over two hours before lunch and made their way to a wooden

bridge, they spoke in front of the cameras for more than half an hour once again. they looked very relaxed and appeared to be discussing the move forward. they are clearly about to speak, i am not sure if we will have an english translation but let's stay with the pictures in case we are able to hear president moon of south korea and the north korean leader kim jong—un as they make their statement on the north/ south korean border. it is the first time they have met and clearly the two men seem to have a good relationship. kim jong—un said men seem to have a good relationship. kimjong—un said he would be happy to come to south korea any time an invitation is extended to him. it seems they are just talking now, let's listen and see if we can get an english translation on this. clearly not an english translation

on that, but we can speak to stephen mcdonald's, who is our correspondent, who can bring is up to date. what has just been signed, stephen? absolutely historic moment, who would have thought a few years ago that you could see kim jong—un stepping across that border, the first north korean to do so, the first north korean to do so, the first north korean leader to do so without shaking hands with his south korean counterpart and talking...|j korean counterpart and talking...” am sorry for interrupting but we have an english translation, let's listen to president moon. translation: the joint goal is to agreed to have a korean peninsular without any nuclear arsenal,

completed denuclearisation. this is a start. going forward is for the denuclearisation of the korean peninsular, south korea and north korea will work together and the peace treaty will establish ending peace treaty will establish ending peace —— lasting peace by ending the war. that'll be the turning point for the new world order. wherever, whether this is the sky, sea or land, the hostilities will be stopped. the fundamental matters to stopped. the fundamental matters to stop the hostilities will be in, and

the tmz will be the peace zone, and the tmz will be the peace zone, and the accidental military skirmishes will be stopped as well. i pay respect to the brave decisions mr kim has made, for the international community's support, will work together, mr kim and i, having faith in each other and through the hotline we will speak often. and we will not go back. citizens of the south and the north, with mr kim and

i. south and the north, with mr kim and i, we wish forjoint prosperity and peace. we have decided to work on our own, peace. we have decided to work on ourown, and peace. we have decided to work on our own, and the north and south will cooperate to that and the diverse exchanges will be preceded. and the separated families will commit again, and an office will be set up in person. and the economic operation committee will be set up. if conditions are met and the

liaison office will be set up in the south and the north, the denuclearisation of the korean peninsular and establishing lasting peace. that milestone has been set up. it was mr kim's brave decision, it has made a peace gift to the world. and after this meeting the big north korean leader who made a decision, let's applaud him for his decision. this may be the first time for him to make an announcement in front of the

world's's press. people from the south and the north, and compatriots all over the world —— south and the north, and compatriots all over the world -- translation: people from the south and the north, we have had our first meeting. i would like to give my appreciation to the south korean president and the committee who have made a success of this meeting. and the south koreans welcomed us as one brother and i would like to give my appreciation to the people of south korea. it took a long time and we have been waiting for this moment,

and when we met each other we realise that we cannot be separated, we are one nation. that is howl felt. we are living next door to each other, there is no reason why we should fight each other. we are one nation. and the entire nation should live in peace and we should pioneer ourselves. mr moon and i have been waiting for this, and we give thanks to the people who will look forward to this historic meeting. we have discussed many things, and the entire nation can

live in peace and we can have a determination to live together. that was the agreement we made. and we will try to implement and carry out all the declarations and the pledges made on the previous occasions as well. and mr moon and i and the piece on the korean peninsular, that declaration has been made. —— and the peace. notjust the north korean and south korean people, the whole world is watching us. no repetition of hostilities can happen on this peninsular. we will work together for the good fruit to harvest. one

language, one nation, one blood. we should be one and enjoy the prosperity together. people of the south and the north and mike patriots all over the world. —— and my compatriots all over the world. and on the basis of standing, if we can work together, we can accelerate the core prosperity to create history. we have to work really hard

to the great history to be made. if we can create, we need to do our utmost to create history. on that path, there can be headwinds and frustrations and despair. without pain, there is no birth. and the challenges we have faced in the past, and going forward, we can make better progress, a better future with our heads together, one step by one step we can pull forward. and we

would like to reword the people who have been waiting for the declaration —— we would like to reward. and all the people who supported this declaration. once again, i would like to give my thanks for this meeting. and i would like to give my appreciation to the journalists, who have shown great interest in this meeting. thank you. translation: we will end the joint

declaration announcement, thank you. studio: as you can see, that is the end of the live statement from kim jong—un, the leader of north korea, and president moon, the south korean leader. a change in tone from what we have heard from kimjong—un in the past. let's bring in our correspondents in hong kong, stephen macdonald. before we talk about the language and the change in tone, just explain the document they have signed today? it is incredible. who would have thoughtjust months ago that we would see the leaders of north and south korea speaking like this, side by side, hugging one another and what have you?! if we see genuine denuclearisation, which they are talking about, it means ridding the korean peninsular of nuclear weapons. it would be an

incredible thing. i suppose this is all leading up to the meeting with donald trump and we will see if the us government will be part of this and agree to everything that was spoken about in this historic meeting today, but certainly this is something so different to what we have seen in years gone by on the korean peninsular with all the bloodcurdling rhetoric, the threats from the north and incinerators are the south and the imperialists, the americans, that type of thing. —— and incinerating the south. kim jong—un stepping across the border, the first north korean leader to ever have done so, symbolically at least it is quite incredible. this commitment they have signed up to other effectively denuclearisation the korean peninsular is a huge step forward , the korean peninsular is a huge step forward, as you say, if they stick to it. let's talk about the language used. kim jong—un was talking about

working together, saying we cannot be separated, we are one nation. there will be frustrations on the past but we need to work together. com plete past but we need to work together. complete in tone? —— change in tone? more absolutely. in the past from the north koreans we have had south korea described as running dogs of the american imperialists. very hostile rhetoric. threats of attack and the like. and north korea developing its nuclear weapons. and now this dialogue along the lines are working together, we are all brothers and sisters. it is com pletely brothers and sisters. it is completely different. we will wait and see what actually happens. what comes from these talks. but given that it has taken so long to get to this stage, but freezing out south korea didn't work. that engagement

with north korea in the past with the various economic enterprises didn't work. maybe this is something new that... if president trump meets kimjong—un, he new that... if president trump meets kim jong—un, he would new that... if president trump meets kimjong—un, he would be new that... if president trump meets kim jong—un, he would be the first us leader to ever meet a north korean leader. rhapsody is this type of gesture which is brought north korea to the table. and hopefully, people in this region would say, which might lead to a lasting peace. here in china, for example, the government in beijing has welcomed these moves. of course they would. beijing has put a up with all manner of frustration from the north koreans. they haven't wanted us troops on the border with china. of course, in china they will be welcoming these developments as well. they are hoping that somehow it can stick. that there can be a lasting peace which removes nuclear weapons from that peninsula, and

which might lead to some sort of stability in the region. stephen, thank you for speaking to us. we are going to return to an adult subject that you may not want your children to watch. soon you'll have to prove you're18, if you want to visit a porn site. the government says the change in the law is to protect children. but there's confusion as to how it'll be enforced, fears it could threaten users' privacy and doubts as to whether it'll even work. bbc radio1 newsbeat‘s nick rotherham has been to meet some of those involved in the porn industry. and a warning, again, that you might not want children to watch this short film — which lasts about three and a half minutes. my my first stop is a flat above an off—licence in watford. i've come to meet an indiscreet newby. how are you? i meet an indiscreet newby. how are you ? i wanted meet an indiscreet newby. how are you? i wanted to see how the people making pawn felt about having an

aids block on their work. nice to meet you. director? yes. you're calling the shots? i will try. do yourfamily calling the shots? i will try. do your family know you do this? they do now! i like to think if i avoid things they don't exist or they will go away. it doesn't work like this when your pawn is on the internet. and you have an 18—year—old brother. how old was he when he saw it? 18. do you think having age restrictions isa do you think having age restrictions is a good thing? i don't know. it seems a little —— too little, too late. i'm not fully against it. it wouldn't have helped me in my situation and you! to try to stop children from watching films like the one being made to night, the government will ask all porn sites to verify the age of their visitors.

director nate reckons that would be bad for business. nate may have no choice. if he doesn't check the age of his visitors, his side could be blocked in the uk. i could be technically on the street peddling porn. know of someone is in the street going, do you want to watch porn? what's your name? it's like, let me watch it in peace. i like it a lot. what you think. it working? as much as policing it is needed, how would you please the people? it's impossible. unless you start literally asking every single household in the world, before you log in, here is your password. even then, dad falls asleep in front of then, dad falls asleep in front of the laptop. you have a go on it. what are you looking at? now you have watched something accidentally, you can't macro stop it. it's impossible.

i feel like i don't want kids watching my point. i do not want kids watching my porn. a lot of porn stars have children themselves. i believe you spoke to bali. she told you that she has got relatives she does not want seen her porn. i'm putting out porn for you. and him. i'm putting out porn for you guys. does that mean that i should spend more money, or be governed in such a way because apparently i'm irresponsible for a clearly telling people, don't go on my site unless you are a team? is porn victimised? yes. it passed annoying. would you explain that to? you think as human beings... you would think nobody

would say that this clearly on the same man. i neverwant to would say that this clearly on the same man. i never want to see a beheading on a bus. that is society. violence is all right but free, sex, no. joining us now, david austin from regulator the british board of film classification. myles jackman, an obscenity lawyer that specialises in defending cases relating to pornography. vicki shotbolt, who co—chairs the uk council for child internet safety, and is ceo of the parent zone. and pandora blake, a porn actor and activist. thank you for coming in. do you all agree it is a good idea to find a way to stop children accessing porn? is that a given? yes. we have to accept the child protection imperative, the question is how we do it. we need to keep children safe. but the question of how we do

it and how much we involve the internet is up for debate. david, how is this going to work? if you wa nt to how is this going to work? if you want to access porn, you will have to put what, credit card details in, your passport number? first of all, this is an important piece of child protection legislation. we think it is absolutely going to work. some people will challenge that. what will happen in practice is, when the law comes into force, when you try to access as an adult a commercial pornographic website, you will be faced with a splash screen asking you to prove you are 18 or over. there will be a menu of options to choose from. one of the things the aduu choose from. one of the things the adult sites want is the maximum amount of traffic on their site. there will be a number of options that people need to be comfortable with. that age verification will will mean porn is no longer one click away for children. it also needs to be straightforward for

adults to access. people who have not accessed these sites won't understand. say you want to look at that, take a box, put your passport number in, where is that information go? one method of age verification, for instance, is you can buy a card ina for instance, is you can buy a card in a newsagents and that proves you are over 18. in a newsagents and that proves you are over18. entera in a newsagents and that proves you are over 18. enter a 16 digit number to get access to the website. it is completely anonymous. the porn website will have no personal information on you whatsoever.” think one of the problems is it is of —— easy to obviate these systems. at best 70% of people will comply. that means you can use proxies, vpns. you can get around it. it is practically on workable in the first instance. you have to accept that first of all. then there are the risks with regard to privacy and security. is this necessary? is it a

portion it to the stated aims? and do your viewers want their private sexual details leaked into the public domain after a malicious hack? that is the biggest concern. all of your viewers could suffer from that. first of all, in terms of compliance, we have been talking to the adult industry for the past year, talking to all the big players. every single one of them has said they will comply. one of these companies owns hundreds of thousands of websites. the other thing i would say to reassure users is that if you do not want to give your personal details to a pornographic website, you do not have too. no pornographic company will have any my details.” have too. no pornographic company will have any my details. i think the problem is not that the pornographic companies will have the details. it is that the age verification tools will have them. the digital act does not empower

you, the regulator, to enforce the age verification tools to subscribe to any particular privity and security standards beyond basic data protection, which is inadequate to mitigate the harm is. one of the things you recommend in your guidance... if you are going to a website and you want to visit it twice in a day, you don't want to resubmit your details. the only way they can maintain a cookie is to keepa they can maintain a cookie is to keep a record of which access token has visited which websites. now that dataset is enormously tempting for hackers. while some of the age verification providers would be very good, the card in the shop is a great solution, not all of them are. there is nothing in the legislation or the regulator is not empowered to e nforce or the regulator is not empowered to enforce them to uphold those standards. what we are seeing in terms of the age revocation providers is a mini arms war. they all want to be very successful. they

wa nt all want to be very successful. they want to be market leaders. they are looking for solutions requiring less data in order to allow people to access online pornography. the solution i have chosen, the third party provider, destroys the data. solam party provider, destroys the data. so i am very confident that i would be able to access any website without the porn company having any information whatsoever. people should choose which solution may feel comfortable with. if they wanted to give details the pornographic websites, by all means do. many people don't and they don't need to. i want to bring vicky in. we have had some new messages this morning saying children are getting their sex education essentially through porn. it is passed around at school. some parents are not co mforta ble. school. some parents are not comfortable. as a nation we are queasy talking about six. it is awkward. —— sex. do you think this is the solution? it is a solution.

of course it is a good idea that we make it hard for under 18 is to access ha rd—core make it hard for under 18 is to access hard—core pornography sites. nobody wants to argue against that. it will not be the complete solution. we need to get less queasy talking to our children about sex. it is vital parents know this will not fix it completely. this will not mean that children stop seeing porn. they have to have those conversations. we do need to have good six education articles. —— sex education at school. i agree. under austerity we have cut funding to youth clubs, libraries, schools and sex education, provided by impartial experts. trying to seek a technological solution to a social problem is the wrong way to go about it. personally as a porn maker, i try to make porn that a 17—year—old would get good messages about sex from. not all porn is like that. the

only way that we can resolve it is to talk to people. i really wouldn't disagree with you. personally as a parent, my 19—year—old, disagree with you. personally as a parent, my19—year—old, if he disagree with you. personally as a parent, my 19—year—old, if he was accessing porn, iwouldn't necessarily have a problem with it. those aren't the young people we are thinking about. we are thinking about the eight—year—old that comes across it accidentally. isidore -- isn't it also the responsibility of the parent? they have to have pa rental the parent? they have to have parental blocks on. they should be monitoring their children's use? parental blocks on. they should be monitoring their children's use ?m is so hard. they are designed to be personal advice —— devices. it is not possible for a parent to co nsta ntly not possible for a parent to constantly monitor their child's use of the internet. it is the action of the coming across pornography. it is the coming across pornography. it is the one click away. it is the big brother who comes around and happens to have it on their side. it is those occasions that this will help. i think it is really important about

the one click away and accidentally stumbling on pornography. the nspcc and children's commissioner did research and found that half of children exposed to pornography did so accidentally. so this law, which i agree is not a solution, it is pa rt of i agree is not a solution, it is part of a wider suite of solutions, will have a massive impact. you talked about an arms race earlier, and one of the problems in the cambridge analytica situation is that we should be thinking very closely about technological solutions, is this the right way to deal with it? we are all agreed that we need to have discussion societally about the nature, the role of pornography, how and why it is consumed and have that canon to stigmatise and we can talk about it in an open and honest fashion, which is blaming, stigmatising or otherwise uncomfortable.

as was in the longer film, we spoke toa as was in the longer film, we spoke to a woman who said the porn industry has a responsibility not to be misogynistic, not to be racist and to actually not reinforce these really dangerous messages to young people? absolutely. one of the big problems we are looking at is the way that kids are one click away from porn is mostly via the free tube sites, which are mostly advertiser funded, content is uploaded without the consent of the performers. it is often without context, outdated, labelled with slurs misogynistic language. having age verification for the tube sites is very different to having age verification for niche, specialised community sites, for people with a particular interest in, for example, lg bt particular interest in, for example, lgbt or fetish content which is not being accessed by children. we worry there will be heavy freedom of expression costs in forcing all

websites to have age checks, which can be threatening to viewers worried about privacy. why is it not 16 when the age of consent in this country is 16? globally we cannot identify how world a child is so we say it is 18. identify how world a child is so we say it i518. in this country you can get married and the age of consent is 16, can get married and the age of consent i516, so there is a disjunct between the age of 16, consent, and what i call the age of representation, 18. there could be two people aged 16 having consensual sex, recording it on their mobile phones, which is common in this country, a technological thing that people do, and they are creating indecent images of children, themselves. so there is a disjunct between 16 and 18 in the law. there is one statutory provision which allows you to do it if you are married at 16. i will leave that for you to ponder.

one of the things we are directed to do is take a proportionate approach, we will identify those tube sites, those big sites, where we know children are going, and there is ple nty of children are going, and there is plenty of data available to show that, we will be focusing on them. so the government research showed around 70% of people access pornographic websites in the uk, they only access 50 websites between they only access 50 websites between the 70%, with children it is a higher percentage and a lower number of websites. by starting with the top 50 week another massive impact on child protection. what about next year or the year after that, what advice and i meant to meant to give to my colleagues in the industry, what about the man running a sex blog to talk about six, share their desires and fantasies, which is the kind of conversation we need to have? would kind of conversation we need to have ? would she kind of conversation we need to have? would she need to have age verification because you have got all the big players and you are going after the small fry? from the

pa rental going after the small fry? from the parental perspective, do you worry, because one of the worries is that porn will be pushed onto social media and that is why kids are spending so much time. do you worry that inadvertently this law will move the problem and make it worse? i think that is one of the $6 million question is, the unintended consequences question. porn will not go away people are already accessing porn through social networks. but does that mean we should not try it? absolutely not. but we need to keep trying to make sure young kids do not accidentally access porn. this statement is from james carr, and a jaidee spokesperson. that is a secure, robust and private tool which will identify any individual over the legal age, allowing them to access adult content online. —— james carr, a age id spokesperson. i

would like to read some viewers point of view. mark says anyone foolish enough to register will instantly be considered suspicious and it would definitely be used against anyone in court for anything, no matter how remotely related, even to show bad character. we simply cannot trust anyone to keep this information safe and secure as it has imprecations for blackmailing people. one view on facebook says i think it would be a step in the right direction. and with the online is sounding easy to access and should only be available to adults with an access only be available to adults with an a ccess cod e only be available to adults with an access code only obtained if a subscriber has proven their legal age. harry says i am over 18 and i watch porn around three times a week, i have done for many years, even as an under 18. ifeel that have done for many years, even as an under 18. i feel that no have done for many years, even as an under 18. ifeel that no matter whether the government tries to stop under 18s, whether the government tries to stop under 185, they will always find a way, with nonmainstream porn sites which could show more hard—core porn. ross on facebook, to be perfectly

honest, if you want access porn you will get it. it is the internet we are talking about. we could talk about this for hours but, sadly, we don't have time. thank you. still to come... the man suspected of being the so—called golden state killer who terrorised california in the 19705 and 805 is in court today. he was caught by detectives using family tree websites. we'll have all the details on the case. 3.5 million syrian refugees have travelled to neighbouring turkey. now an eu funded project is underway to integrate child refugees into turkish schools. we'll have a special report. here's some sport now with steve. good morning. arsenal know they must score in madrid next week to stand any chance of reaching the europa league final. they conceded a late equaliser against ten man atletico to draw the first leg of their semifinal 1—1. the man who wants to

buy wembley stadium says a deal could be done within three months. shahid khan has been around —— bid around £900 million to take wembley from fa control. ronnie o'sullivan is in second—round action at the world in the championship in sheffield. not long since got under way against ali carter, you can watch that on bbc two and fear the bbc sport website. how about this for an unusual golf hazard?! an alligator on the course in new orleans, at the new orleans classic. the american player taylor gooch got some assistance from an official with a rake to send that gator back into the water. i will be back a bit later, see you then, goodbye. he'd been described as "america's dad," but now actor and comedian bill cosby is facing up to 30 years in prison after being found guilty of drugging and sexually assaulting a woman at his home in philadelphia. the actor, who is now 80, attacked former basketball player andrea constand in 200a. he lost his temper after the verdict, as prosecutors argued

he should be denied bail. the judge ruled that he'll remain out ofjail until he's sentenced. the trial was described as the biggest since oj simpson in the us, and ginger adam otis from the new york daily news has closely been following the case. i spoke to her a short time ago. well there's actually allegations against cosby stretching back decades. upwards of 60 women have come forward with similar claims. most of them are outside the statute of limitations meaning they didn't file criminal charges in a timely enough fashion or they filed them. they did go to authorities. no criminal charges were brought. so in this case this woman, andrea constand, was able to get a criminal case brought forward because she actually made it byjust a few days within the statute of limitations. and that's why her case was actually brought to trial. and so explain to us what was heard in court. because of course this was the retrial after the trial last year collapsed. right.

well in this particular trial the prosecution actually brought five other women who while they could not criminally charge bill cosby for the reasons ijust explained have publicly come forward with similar allegations. and those women were allowed to speak to a pattern of abuse by bill cosby and that was a piece of evidence that was not brought forward before and apparently was quite effective because the jury did convict. there was an outburst wasn't there from bill cosby as the announcement was made and the verdict was announced. yes, and actually moments afterwards he was fairly silent during the verdict announcement but afterwards as both sides were discussing bail and would he have to be remanded or will he be allowed to go home. wait for the appeal that his attorneys have already promised. he burst out with some swear words over the allegation from prosecution that he was a flight risk. because he is a wealthy man and had his own plane. now of course he's 80 years old. he is an american icon.

what sentence is he looking at? those...the maximum count on each of those felony charges is 10 years. so at 80 years old if he does get sentenced depending on his appeal he's looking at a maximum of 30 years. now of course the whole context of this and the backdrop to this is of course the hashtag "me too" campaign and this is effectively the first celebrity assault trial since that campaign. and huge significance to that. well that's something that everybody‘s talking about. as soon as the verdict was announced the national organization for women came out with a statement and said sexual predators everywhere, you know, time's up. enough is enough. and it's almost like a little social experiment. how this played out. if you go back a year a jury with the same basically the same case some different evidence presented but the same allegations and the same main testifier, andrea constand, did not convict. it was a mistrial. and that was after six

days of deliberations. then you have in the ensuing year this explosion of the me too movement and that's caught globalfire. huge momentum and we wind up yesterday thursday in pennsylvania. a jury that in 1a hours was able to convict. so definitely a different approach this year. and is there a sense now that in light of that more women will feel that they have a voice that maybe they'll be believed by the legal system for the first time. i think that's definitely one of the messages that prosecutors want to bring forward. attorneys who support sexual abuse victims, i think that one of the things that has come out with both the harvey weinstein case and again with bill cosby, is how very difficult it is for a victim to come forward, especially if there are alleged abuser is rich, powerful and wields incredible influence.

—— especially if their alleged abuser. because the whole system is somewhat tilted against them. and in fact one of the issues being debated now that was brought to light under cosby is how many women could not bring criminal charges because of the statute of limitations. and there's a big debate around that. do they need to be that strict? do they need to be that onerous? they're sort of on a state level. there's a need to be more understanding of how pernicious abuse can be and how women who didn't feel they could speak up 20 years ago now want to come forward and tell their stories. why should they be ignored just because of a law that was set up decades ago? we can speak now to the filmmaker, lucy pilkington, who met several of bill cosby‘s accusers for a bbc documentary in 2017. and molly ackhurst from holla back london — a women's rights campaign group. thank you both for taking the time to speak to us. lucy, tell us about some of the stories that you discovered during your documentary? well, we filmed, and this was ahead

of the first trial last year, we filmed a number of the bill cosby‘s accusers who all had very similar stories of being taken to have a private meeting with him, of being given drugs which then make them fall asleep and then being assaulted while asleep. very similar stories from a range of decades, some of the stories went back... one story went back to 1967, others murder... were much later. they were very haunting and similar. —— others were much later. often they were not big stars ? later. often they were not big stars? one of the women was a junior actress on the cosby show, some were waitresses, they were not big stars like the need to women. some were scared to speak out, others were frightened of speaking out by cosby and the people around him, they

said. not typicalvictims and the people around him, they said. not typical victims of sexual abuse in terms of that they felt they could not say anything, they themselves had guilt issues. molly, this of course has been the first celebrity, it is a horrible phrase, celebrity assault trial since the start of the #metoo campaign. do you see this as a defining moment? about absolutely it is. it is a hugely significant moments. i think it is really important that we take away from the fa ct important that we take away from the fact that this is a celebrity, any guilty verdict is huge for the survivors going through the criminal justice system, and the reason is it tells us that a randomly selected jury tells us that a randomly selected jury believe us, they believe women, they believe girls and that is just so important and something we really had to hold onto. it is because of that we stand in solidarity, not

just with andrea constand today that every single person has spoken out as part of the #metoo movement, and more widely every movement around sexual abuse and sexual violence. whether we like it or not, the fact that bill cosby was a huge star in many ways made it harderfor that bill cosby was a huge star in many ways made it harder for these women to come forward, because often the power, the fame, means people are scared off from making the allegation or they feel that they are not going to get a fair trial or fairness from the legal system? exley i think it is important we ta ke exley i think it is important we take away the hierarchy that some perpetrators are more scary because two survivors all perpetrators are equally terrifying. it doesn't matter to the survivor of any form of abuse. it doesn't matter that their perpetrator is less famous than others. of course. the point i was trying to make, there was not trying to belittle it, is if you are

going to fill —— be filmed going to court and the newspapers are following you, that is added trauma on top of what you have already been through? this is the point of the bill cosby case. that this —— these women knew the media could potentially go back and look at their lives and pull them to pieces, it is that added dimensional?” think there is an added dimension when there is a celebrity involved. but he wasn'tjust a celebrity, it was that he was this tremendous artist who did such a lot for the black community, such a lot for race relations. the cosby show was absolutely seismic in what it did in terms of portraying this happy black family. so, ithink terms of portraying this happy black family. so, i think particularly for the black women, they felt that they we re the black women, they felt that they were having to do very, very brave in accusing somebody who was held in such high esteem. it wasn'tjust his celebrity. it was also the other

things that he had done in his life that they felt conflicted about. things that he had done in his life that they felt conflicted aboutm a statement after the verdict, one of the women said she looked into the eyes of a young black man on the jury the eyes of a young black man on the jury and was saying, please, i know he isa jury and was saying, please, i know he is a father figure, i jury and was saying, please, i know he is a fatherfigure, i know he jury and was saying, please, i know he is a father figure, i know he was so important and he has done so much for our country, but you have to conflict this man. she said she felt proud of him. i guess a responsibility that people felt? the truth is that these crimes are crimes, whoever commits them. i suppose what i am saying is itjust shows how brave the women have to be when they have not only got to come up when they have not only got to come up against the power and the might of the hollywood system, but also against public opinion that says, we loved this man, we loved what he created. thank you for speaking to us. authorities in california believe they have identified the so—called golden state killer,

thought to be responsible for at least 50 rapes and 12 murders in the 19705 and 805. the man they've arrested is a former police officer, joseph deangelo, and he's due in court today. tom millerfrom tom miller from casey tom millerfrom casey are in use in california told me how law enforcement had tracked down. he was caught through dna technology. the latest diack may —— dna technology. it is still not com pletely dna technology. it is still not completely clear what the actual links work. but the latest information is that the suspect, joseph deangelo, had a relative whose dna was entered into a genealogy website, someone trying to find out about their family history. and that that information was accessed by law enforcement and that they were able to then find a dna match, by matching the dna of the

relative of the suspect with dna samples that had been taken from crime scenes. by looking at the family tree of the relative, they started, all the arrows started pointing to this man, joseph deangelo, as the likely suspect. is it standard practice to have dna samples from police officers in the us? so, nowadays it is very likely. however, the last timejoseph deangelo was an officer was in the 19705. they did not have dna technology then. he's dna would not have been in a database.” technology then. he's dna would not have been in a database. i know you have been in a database. i know you have been in a database. i know you have been speaking to his brother—in—law? have been speaking to his brother-in-law? yes. we talked to him. what did he tell you? he told me the family is in total shock and disbelief. he told me there was absolutely no reason to believe that

mr deangelo had this in him. the family isjust mr deangelo had this in him. the family is just grieving and trying to cope. they also said, however, they haven't rushed to judgment and they haven't rushed to judgment and they want to wait for his trial and his court case before they make their final decision his court case before they make theirfinal decision on his court case before they make their final decision on what really happened here. we're now eight years into the syrian war. half a million people have been killed and thirteen million driven from their homes. the country that's absorbed the most syrian refugees is turkey, hosting around three and a half million. the eu has funded a new project in which turkish and syrian children are school together. as part of the bbc‘s crossing divides season, mark lowen has been to gaziantep on the turkey/syria border, to see the result. in the first time they drew the war pictures. now they do something,

house, nature. for the children of this school in southern turkey, the real lessons are about each other. turkish and syrian pupils sit, learn and share together. this is a project to integrate the nationalities. syrian refugees not kept apart but mixed in with their hosts. i've learned how to speak turkish, says this boy from aleppo, and from my turkish friends i have learned about their food. everything in turkey is great. the primary school in the city of gaziantep is part of a new integration scheme. funded by the eu and costing 300 million euros, it aims to assimilate syrians to turkey, rather than segregating the refugees in makeshift syrian only schools. translation: they would sit

around... now they can prepare for the future. we have syrian, iraqi and afghan kids. we are like a mini united nations. the model works by also giving syrians their own turkish lessons, so they feel able to take part in other mixed classes. specially trained guidance teachers help these syrian kids adjust. and all staff ta ke syrian kids adjust. and all staff take courses on immigration and syrian culture to prepare them for the integration. when syria's war broke out few expected that seven years on the refugees would still be here, schools in turkish. this project is

a recognition of reality. the syrians are now virtually a part of turkish society. they need to be integrated. for many, there is little hope of returning home. as they build their lives in turkey, they build their lives in turkey, the school builds bridges, breaking down prejudices from an early age. some of the kids don't remember syria before the war, adjusting and assimilating takes time. if you separated the refugees, the syrian refugees, from the society, they would begin to make a world without turkey. and they would one day not recognise any rules, anybody. what differences did you notice between the syrian and turkish children? they were using knife. they like to beat each other. punch each other. in the first time,

i mean. by the time passed, itried to rip —— rehabilitate them. one day we went outside to make some sport. there was smoke. and all of them looked to the sky, what is that? is that a bomb or a terrorist attack? i said, no, it isjust planes going away. perched near the syrian border, gaziantep has seen one of the biggest waves of syrian immigration. around 400,000 are here. some areas have indeed become ghettoised. the two nationalities rarely makes. in all, turkey shelters around 3.5 million syrian refugees. most are warmly welcomed, but this study shows violence jump three times last

year. 35 were killed in clashes. more integration is badly needed. it is not just more integration is badly needed. it is notjust the children brought together by the scheme but the pa rents, together by the scheme but the parents, too. this boy invited to the home of his syrian classmate twins. as the family gets to know each other... the first time he say to me, i'm afraid to go to school because i don't know how to speak, i don't know how to make connection with our friends. i told know how to make connection with our friends. itold him, slowly, know how to make connection with our friends. i told him, slowly, slowly. just be good. and they will be good with you. and you will learn. and that's happened? yes, that's happened, yes. translation: at first many turkish

pa rents translation: at first many turkish pa re nts ha d translation: at first many turkish parents had a negative reaction. they said if we were in that situation, syrians wouldn't want us. they were suspicious, prejudiced and worried about classroom sizes. over time they have changed. they are now even more positive than i am. across the border from the real fighting, syria's children have found peace here. some still dream of going home. but a generation born of going home. but a generation born of water is now increasingly woven into the fabric of modern turkey. lots of you still getting in touch about the change in the lower you have to prove you are over 18 to access online porn. a tweet from gordon. i have software on my son's ta blet to

gordon. i have software on my son's tablet to block anything inappropriate. why does the government think it can police the world wide web? it is worldwide. those in power just world wide web? it is worldwide. those in powerjust don't understand technology. martin "i'm a former teacher and i was was alarmed by what i would hear in classes. people would talk about —— pupils would talk about trying things they had seen online. nasty porn is normalised." let's leave you with these remarkable pictures from the korean border. kim jong—un these remarkable pictures from the korean border. kimjong—un meeting —— meeting president moon of south korea. they talk for half an hour before cameras. an historic summit. we will keep you up—to—date on bbc news. thanks the company. —— thanks for your company. good morning. we have had some heavy rain moving its way in from the south—west throughout this morning. it is pretty wet out there for many

parts of england and wales. moody skies in stevenage. the rain has not quite reached the far north of england, scotland and northern ireland. but you will see some heavy showers. slow—moving showers across scotla nd showers. slow—moving showers across scotland into the afternoon. some hail as well. further south and east you can see this area bring continuing. moving east. some drier weather through wales and south—west this afternoon. temperatures, seven to 13 degrees. that is pretty cool. this evening and tonight we continue with the rain across many eastern areas of england. that means that for saturday morning it is quite a slow start. quite a bit of cloud. some spots of rain. gradually over the weekend it gets that little bit brighter. temperatures still below the average for the end of april. and she

this is bbc news — and these are the top stories ese are the top stories developing at 11. a momentous step — talks between the leaders of north and south korea take place in the demilitarised zone — with a pledge there should be no more war. the two countries' leaders sign a joint statement — declaring their commitment to work towards the complete denuclearisation of the korean peninsula . translation: we are living next door to each other, there is no reason why we should fight each other. we are one nation. in a highly symbolic move —

kim jong—un and president moon jae—in plant a pine tree in soil from both north and south korea.