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a source inside the coalition fighting the islamic state group has told the bbc he believes civilians have been killed as a result of british air strikes. it comes as teams of iraqi volunteers are discovering human remains at sites across mosul. the uk‘s ministry of defence says "everything possible" is done to minimise the risk to civilians. the armenian opposition leader, nikol pashinyan, has called for a general strike after the governing republican party voted against his election as prime minister. addressing tens of thousands of supporters massed in the capital yerevan, he urged them to block roads, railway stations and airports. the chief executive of facebook, mark zuckerberg, says the company is working on a new privacy control that will allow users to delete their browsing history. he also revealed plans to launch a dating service on the social network. now on bbc news: today in parliament. hello and welcome to
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tuesday in parliament. coming up: the government changes its mind and will compel overseas territories to reveal the true owners of companies based there. we will accordingly respect the will of the house, and will not vote against new clause six. a senior barristerfears for the system for disclosing evidence in trials. we consider that the situation is not remedied as getting very close to cracking. and, just what was the shadow business minister doing? he's doing it again, mr speaker! his mother would be horrified! the government has said it won't oppose a move to force british overseas territories to have greater financial transparency in tax affairs, so averting a potential defeat in the commons. the measure would require tax havens
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like the cayman islands and the british virgin islands to introduce a register revealing the beneficial owners of assets held in thosejurisdictions. the government accepted an amendment to the sanctions and anti—money laundering bill, known as new clause six. we've listened to the strength of feeling in this house on this issue. and except that it is without a doubt, the majority of you of this house, that the overseas territories should have public registers ahead of it becoming the international standard as set by the financial actions task force. we will accordingly, respect the will of the house and will not vote against new clause six. money laundering is estimated by the crime agency at £90 billion, and this is facilitated by the secret ownership of companies allowed in tax havens. unfortunately, the british overseas territories and crown dependencies are major actors in this. it is time for secrecy
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in all of these jurisdictions is now over. and we need transparency so that we can minimise the abuse, be it tax evasion, tax avoidance, or the laundering of criminal money, which is becoming more and more a feature in these jurisdictions, and once we have our own house in order, does she agree with me that we can then campaign internationally to close down all tax havens? the amendment was brought by a labour former chair of the public accounts committee. when it is passed, the simple measure of requiring british overseas territories or tax havens, publish public registers of beneficial ownership, will transform the landscape that allows tax avoider, tax evader, a kleptocrat, a criminal, gangs involved in organised crimes, money launderers. all of those wanting to fund terrorism.
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one conservative objected to the move. in 2009, we gave the people of the cayman islands a solemn pledge in this house, and said we will not legislate for you in these areas of public responsibility without your consent. and by this measure today, we are breaking that promise to them and it is beneath the dignity of this parliament to do away with that promise and that pledge of good faith. another veteran, tory disagreed. as the cayman island has a rather better record than some of the other british overseas territories, it does co—operate very closely with our lower authorities as the dependent territories do, it is open to the cayman island governments to consider the matter and act on its own accord, given the steer this house is giving to it.
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i completely concur with those remarks, and people have said to me that the areas where we have intervened, and i do think we intervened with huge reluctance, the areas we've intervened on moral issues. i can't think of another issue which is more moral than trying to intervene to prevent the traffic in corrupt money and illicit finance across the world. margaret hodge. a senior barrister has told mps that the system for disclosing evidence in criminal cases in england and wales is a complete mess which is close to cracking. in the lead—up to trials, police and prosecutors are required to hand over relevant material to the other side. the justice committee is looking into the system after recent high profile cases where defendants facing rape allegations had the charges against them dropped when critical material emerged at the last minute. i would consider the most pressing
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issues to be a lack of training in the police and to a degree, in the prosecution service. a lack of resources to deal with the issues in a modern society. far too much reliance on barristers at the point of trial and the judge when it gets to trial to sort it out. so it gets to trial, it's a complete mess. we're relied on to deal with it. from the independent bar's perspective, it's just another thing that we have to deal with, unpaid and under pressure. and it significantly consider this point that the recent highly publicised cases have all come to light because of the work of the independent bar at the last minute. and we consider that the situation if it's not remedied, is getting very close to cracking. disclosure is a necessary and an important part of the investigation and the investigative process. sometimes the sense i think that practitioners get is, the police in particular view it as an unnecessary administrative hurdle that they have to go through.
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that's the wrong attitude, it really is part of the investigative process. so is it cuts in practise or is really cash? the errors that i see prosecuting and defending, are more down to lack of resources. i have offices who i ring up and ask them to do a job, a case i'm prosecuting, and they're incredibly stretched, but they will be do it, but it'll probably be done during overtime or a night shift where they're meant to be going home. and that is a resource issue. because if you have one officer conducting five complex cases, when really it's the work of five officers, that's a resource issue. that is a manpower issue. she moved onto the amount of material involved. joanna hardy said she had a lot of younger clients and for them it was not that they had a digital footprint it was more of a digital crater. some of these kids on their phones, their phone will tell you what time
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they woke up, because they've got an alarm app. it will tell you when they have breakfast, because they will have a health app, it'll tell you where they went, what time they got back, potentially how fast they drove, where they parked, what they had for lunch. if the go out in a bar, which you can see might be relevant to some of the allegation that we've seen in the press, a taxi app my show what time they left. the rating in that taxi app might tell you if they were drunk. all information you can see that might be relevant in different types of offending. and from one tiny phone in your pocket, if you print out that information from all of those apps, then that need resources. that needs money. because it needs human beings to go through it. and criminal barristers were also under pressure, working long hours often for no pay. the digital revolution means that we are all available all the time. and as you've pointed out a moment ago, if you are prosecuting and defending back—to—back trials, the workload is incessant. and it resembles some of our colleagues from school who've gone off to the dizzying heights of city law firms, and our hours and level of responsibility is equal
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if not greater. because we are dealing with people's liberty. and yet, the pay, there is no resemblance to the task at hand. well, it's always like that. i remember getting on overnight trains to go into trials. and the clerk throwing the papers through the window. and then, the next day having to go on another train somewhere else at the other end of the country. it was always very hard work. and it was always very stressful, because disclosure, which we're talking about a very dry and dispassionate way, is in fact that the difference between people going to prison and not, and it really matters. but what has gone worse in particular, i think is what alex is trying to get at. in the last ten years, administrativejustice‘s budget has been reduced by approximately a0%. more than any other government department. it is not a protected budget and across the board, have also been by approximately that. every area in the system from probation, from police
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which is at a different budget. to lawyers is suffering. and it's all happening at the same time. no department could weather those types of cuts for long. what's different and what's happening right now is that the effect of those cuts are coming home to roost. and the cuts were leading to low rates of pay for barristers doing criminal work. every fee i get, i have to put money aside in case they get sick, or in case i become pregnant. or in case i get old and need to retire. because i don't have a pension. and after that, we also had to pay our administration, our class, our practise. those joining from law schools, known as pupils, could start off on a pupillage award of around £12,000 a year. it's notjust about the money but the entire culture. and for those whojoin
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the profession now and finish pupillage, and leave the safety of that pupillage award, they are not being able to look sideways at teachers and junior doctors... so they are earning less than teachers, you say? because we're self employed. it's difficult to pinpoint exactly, nearly £12,000 in pupillage, moving to possibly £25,000 in the first five years of practise, but again, you take time off, you're not paid. and then you have that for the expenses. it is getting to the stage where we are considered, and we know we are, it's true that we are the prevelation of law, but we are all sometimes looked at as well—paid lawyers. it's simply not truth. now, the prime minister has said that the government will be robust in its response to a house of lords defeat which potentially gives parliament a decisive say on brexit. on monday an amendment to the eu
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withdrawal bill was approved which would give mps the power to stop the uk from leaving the eu without a deal, or make theresa may return to the negotiating table. the international trade secretary liam fox added his voice to condemnation of peers in a series of interviews saying it wasn't acceptable for an unelected house to try to block the democratic will of the british people. the brexit secretary was appearing in front of the european union committee of the lords. he was asked how the disagreement between parliament and the government could be reconciled. we will make these arguments when it comes to the primary legislation, of course we'll also make some arguments when some of the, when we get into ping—pong, of course. many of these arguments have been made on the floor of the house. and in the commons, at the pleasure of two bill so far on this process. but we had quite a lot
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of ping—pong there. and i expect we will have. on notjust this, but other issues. in the withdrawal bill too. david davis. you're watching tuesday in parliament with me, mandy baker. if you want to catch up with all the news from westminster on the go, don't forget our sister programme, today in parliament, is available as a download via the bbc radio 4 website. jamie oliver has told mps that it's wrong to blatantly marketjunk food to children. he was giving evidence, alongside fellow tv chef hugh fearnley whittingstall, to the health committee inquiry into childhood obesity. the two food campaigners were delighted, though, about the impact of the sugar tax on soft drinks, introduced last month. mr oliver started campaigning for the tax three years ago. the sugar and drinks tax is only enacted for one week and this has happened. what we have seen even in our first week is two out of three soft drinks companies reduce and reformulate. having lived in a world
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of voluntary reduction, and the responsibility deal, which at—large, largely did not work. it should have been the accountability deal. i think the tax acted as such, and you saw turbo—charged reformulation. do you agree here? i would not have done that if i did not agree withjamie. he is absolutely right. the sugar tax has been important because it has broken the taboo of mandatory legislation with consequences and i think that is making a huge difference. i think it has been really important as an education piece. the simple fact that it is everybody has talked about it, everybody has thought about it, everybody has looked at it, has brought home the staggering amount of sugar that was in our drinks and that frankly still is in our drinks, in a lot of our drinks, but there is less of it. supermarkets in my area, some have started an initiative where children can have free fruit when they come into the store. and this has helped really notjust myself, because it used to always be can i have a sweet, can i have
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crisps when i go into a store. would you think that might be something you could nudge children in the right direction in terms of choices, even going around the supermarket? we are living in a time when our kids are so brand aware, and so marketed to, the poor old veg and fruit industry does not have much of a chance. so physical, local initiatives, incentivization, make it easy, a bit of fun, it is all power to helping our kids. they are not... british children and children on the planet are not put on earth to eat burgers and nuggets. it's not genetic. fruit sales are actually gently on the up in the uk. vegetable sales are declining. that is a very serious worry. we have to look at how we get kids eating more veg. without question, it is, in my opinion, immoral to not have any kind of view on the relentless advertising of high salt, fat and sugar products to kids. if i may give some clarity. let's talk about traditional
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broadcast, to start off with. we already have standards that protect children until 6:00 at night. that is not where the kids are. the kids en masse, on traditional broadcast, are watching the x factor. 1.2 million kids last week. if they watch a whole season of that, that is a junk food movie that they are going to consume. is it ok to blatantly market junk food to children? right now, with statistics, i'm not having it. i think it is wrong. jamie oliver. labour has demanded to know what the government is doing to help car workers who're about to lose theirjobs because of cutbacks. two weeks ago, britain's biggest car makerjaguar land rover, announced it was cutting one thousand jobs in the west midlands, putting the blame on uncertainty caused by brexit and a reduced demand for diesel vehicles.
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the cut backs follow a 26% fall in sales in the first three months of 2018. the issue came up at business question time. the following figures showing that car registration plunged in march by 15.7% compared with 2007. jaguar land rover announced that 1000 jobs would be cut at solihull as well as temporarily reducing reduction in halewood. the report suggests the solihull workers were told in a mass meeting which lasted only ten minutes with no opportunity for questions. we have had some hints from members today, but has the minister made any assessment of the causes of this, the potential knock on effect on jobs in the supply chain and what steps is he taking to support workers and reverse this very worrying trend in the automotive sector as a whole? the honourable lady would know that jaguar has been very clear about this restructuring. it is part of the cyclical nature of automobile production. they are very confident about his country.
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they are employing a lot of apprentices and skilled people. and training up their work force to take part of the next phase of automobile expansion. two weeks ago, constituency announced job losses more than likely due to declining diesel sales and the switch in production to newer, cleaner models. notwithstanding what the minister said, can he give us some details of what he is doing to support the automotive sector in moving from diesel to cleaner fuels? the honourable lady would know that this in itself is one of the biggest investors in clean technology, and through the industrial challenge, we are supporting the next generation vernally, but in her constituency, the production of the new nissan leaf, it is the most popular electric car in the world, began in sunderland last year and with batteries actually made there. thank you. we are very grateful to the honourable lady. so she knows that. i am most grateful to the minister. the point is this, we have
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continued to leave... stop chuntering, perhaps he might learn something, mr speaker. most impolite. my request to the committee... again, he is doing it again, mr speaker. his mother would be horrified by this level of discourtesy. we were the first country in the world to ask for how we would get to a de—carbonized economy by 2050, and i would hope, mr speaker, in something so vital, we should enjoy cross party support on this issue. claire perry. mps have called for loopholes in the law to be closed to improve protection for children who attend sports clubs. the debate on safeguarding children in sport was initiated by the labour mp bambos charalambous. he began by paying tribute to a constituent, ian ackley, for speaking out about the abuse he suffered at the hands of football coach barry benell. benell was jailed for 31 years in february after being found guilty of 50 counts of sex abuse. mr ackley was in westminster hall to listen to the debate. he told me, how, as a talented young
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footballer aged nine, he was spotted by benell. benell used his charm and suggested connections to top tier football clubs, to persuade parents to allow their sons to sign for his club, which he ran himself in north. ian told me very early on, as the team was doing well, and having won the trust of his parents, bennell suggested that ian stay overnight at his place, so they could talk tactics. and ian would be fresher for the game the next day. the parents, being very trusting, and totally taken in by bennell, consented to the stay over. the sexual abuse began immediately. ian was not the only child to stay over. in some occasions, there would be a number of boys there. some sleeping in the same bed as bennell, and staying overnight at bennell‘s place soon became the normal. he said he had wrongly assumed that such sexual abuse
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could not occur today. more needs to be done with regards to summer sports courses. as things stand, there will be nothing stopping me or anyone else from hiring a field and setting up my own summer football skills course for kids. with some clever marketing, i could be up and running with some cones, bibs and footballs. i think more checks need to be carried out in these casual arrangements, too. and he suggested widening the legal definition of ‘a position of trust'. as the law stands currently, children are protected from being groomed into sexual relationships by trusted adults with power and influence over them. this applies to teachers and social workers and doctors, but is not applied to sports coaches or youth leaders. this creates the absurd situation whereby if a pe teacher teaching football at school were to engage in sexual activity with a 16—year—old child, then that would be an offence, but if the same individual was a sports... was in a sports coaching role, and did the same thing outside
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school, this would not. how we can ensure young people can flourish by having robust safeguards in place, and children and young people can participate in sport, and physical activity safely and with confidence. over the past year, i have read some horrifying headlines of child abuse cases in sport, but cases like these forces us to face the potential dangers that exist for children to be exploited in sport. we have to continue to work to support england, the nspcc, the police, the cpsu and national governing bodies to ensure we set universal standards and instil best practise. myself, and other shadow front bench colleagues have pushed for the introduction of mandatory reporting, placing a legal duty on people working with children to report suspected abuse, suspicions or known abuse to children's social services. our view on this has not changed. nor will it. the minister paid tribute to ian ackley.
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without him and the bravery of others we might not be having this debate today. and i did not want to open the papers in 20 years' time and see another em coming forward, because we did not pay enough attention to the systems that i am responsible for now. she explained what she was doing to address concerns about relationships between coaches and young athletes. children under the age of 16 are not legally able to consent to sex and sexual activity with a child under 16 has long been and remains a criminal offence. however, there are clearly concerns on whether a 16 or 17—year—old, who may be above the age of consent, could be a victim of this corrosive behaviour due to the nature of the relationship between a coach and their athlete, and colleagues have rightly pointed out that i, as the minister of sport, working closely with colleagues across government, to develop proposals to extend the definition of a position of trust, in the sexual offences act 2003 to include sports coaches.
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tracey crouch. mps have paid tribute to the former commons speaker, michael martin, who died on sunday at the age of 72. when michael martin became speaker in 2000, he was the first catholic to hold the post since the reformation. nine years later he became the first speaker to resign since 1695 because of his handling of the mps expenses scandal. he went to the house of lords where he sat as lord martin of springburn. his successor as commons speaker, john bercow, led the tributes. michael martin was passionate about and proud of his roots, specifically, he was proud and rightly proud of the way in which he had overcome a difficult start in life to rise to one of the highest ceremonial offices in the land. i will never forget receiving a letter, at home, during my first summer recess in 2005, and shocked to open and discover it was from the speaker.
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and it was a letter of praise and encouragement. and informing me that when i came back in september, i may feel daunted again, but not to be. he was a testament to social mobility. one day, michael stopped a woman on duke street, to ask for her vote, only to be told that the lady would be voting for the s&p. michael responded robustly, advising that the young candidate was, shall we say, something of an upstart, to which the woman replied, really? that is my son you are talking about. the honourable member to this day claims his mother did vote for him and not michael martin, but perhaps, we will never know. labour's stephen pound recalled meeting michael martin in the tearoom with a colleague tony mcnulty. he then advised us it both, if we wanted to know anything about modern politics, there was only one book we should
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read, and tony, who was something of a nerd in these matters, he said would that be erskine may? and he said no, no, no, the godfather. lord martin, politician, trade unionist. a public servant, born on the 3rd ofjuly,1945 and died at the age of 72, on the 29th of april. we salute yourjourney from poverty to the speaker's chair. from under to westminster. may he rest in peace. tributes to speaker martin, who died at the weekend. and that's all we've got time for. so, from me, mandy baker, goodbye. good morning. the day ahead is a "getting better" kind of day. after a particularly wet start for some, some heavy rain around
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first thing, rain will clear most areas at least through the day, and then we're into a story of sunshine and one or two showers. don't start is called this morning as we did yesterday morning. the best of any brighter breaks. outbreaks of rain elsewhere. heavy in eastern scotland and west wales. the heavy rain will head towards east anglia in the south—east by the time we get late morning and into lunchtime. it will hang around by much of the afternoon. brighter skies develop in its wake, with some sunshine, but a scattering of showers. the showers should not be too long in the breeze. it could be heavy with hail and thunder, across parts of scotland in particular. by and largea parts of scotland in particular. by and large a fairly cool day. temperatures only in the low teens at best, it means the sky is clear to ta ke at best, it means the sky is clear to take this into wednesday night on thursday morning, back to eight elista. possessed us with a touch of frost in the east, but a brad day ahead for eastern areas —— thursday
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