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of rugby league's challenge cup. wigan triumphed against hull kr, while warrington won an ill—tempered contest against championship side toronto wolfpack. toronto had taken an eight—point lead, but their game plan unravelled when andrew dixon was sent off for this. the wolves then ran in sa unanswered points after the break for a 66—10 win. tom lineham grabbed a hat—trick. some great tries in the second half. it is not a great look for our game, but when we applied ourselves and we re but when we applied ourselves and were really disciplined in the second half, the points came. warrington‘s reward is a home quarter final against... wait for it... 19—time winners wigan. the two were the last names to be pulled out of the pot in the draw a little earlier. elsewhere, holders hull fc will travel to st helens, who knocked out castleford yesterday. huddersfield giants play catalan dragons, while leigh centurions —
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the only second—tier team left in the draw — will play leeds rhinos, who are chasing a 14th win in the competition. those games will be played at the end of the month alexander zverev has one has a title. the world number the one the match in straight sets, beating his austrian opponents 6—4, 6—4. match in straight sets, beating his austrian opponents 6-4, 6-4. perfect preparation for the french open later this month. it is the german's second title in two weeks after he won in munich. ireland are learning the hard way about test cricket. they have had a tough time of it on day three of their first game in the longer format after their upper lip artist asta na longer format after their upper lip artist astana declared their first innings on 310—9. i'll post by first go was disasters, at one point there we re go was disasters, at one point there were 7—4, eventually all out for 130, unsurprisingly they were asked to follow on. they finished the day on 60 balls without loss. it will
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resume tomorrow at 11am, added 16 ru ns resume tomorrow at 11am, added 16 runs behind. that's almost it from us. on the day manchester city's record breaking continued, swansea were relegated, celtic lifted another trophy, and arsene wenger said goodbye to arsenal. but he wasn't the only one bidding farewell. so too is veteran commentatorjohn motson. for half a century motty has been the voice of bbc football, commentating—on more than 2,000 games, including ten world cups. known for his humour and famous sheepskin coat, he delivered some of the most memorable lines in the sport's history. there it is! the crazy gang have beaten the culture club. so many people were unexpectedly coming after me and saying, all the best. so many people this morning texting me, ithought that was my first game, not my last. i do know this? and all that. crikey! press are you nervous?
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47 years later. i couldn't believe it. that's all from sportsday. much more on the website. thanks for watching. we'll have more throughout the evening. when you call a book ordinary people, you might be tempted to wonder why we'd want to read about them. but diana evans takes two families who do live ordinary lives and invests them with endless interest — in their race, their class, their midlife worries and weariness, their love lives and their hopes. this is london early in the 21st century, how people live now, a book about what makes them all much more than ordinary. welcome. it is interesting, i think readers
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will find it interesting, that you find ordinary lives, as they're lived every day, more intriguing and more the stuff of a novelist‘s trade than melodrama. yes, what i'm trying to do with this book is to present an accurate picture of the kind of ordinary british lives that i know. it's not necessarily huge dramatic moments, or a storyline in this book. it's more about the quieter but very piercing inner moments in people's lives. it's more about human psychology. there are piercing moments. there are two families that become entangled for reasons that everyone will be familiar with. the boredom of a midlife marriage, all that kind of thing.
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you're also going into questions of race, which many of your readers won't be familiar with. they won't think that is an ordinary life. and you're taking them into lives which they won't know day in, day out. yes, exactly, that's exactly what i'm trying to do. i think theme of race has been connected in a very direct way to black writers. i don't think there has been enough visibility of black lives and characters in their ordinariness. i think there's been this mass dehumanisation of black lives through things like the legacy of slavery and the continuing realities of racism and mainstream representations of blackness in the media. what i'm trying to do is draw attention to the ordinariness, to reclaim that ordinariness.
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we cover the reality of lives that most black people live in one form or another. in this case in a fairly sort of middle—class kind of way — setting. that's the milieu you have chosen. yes, of course, i mean, the black middle class is something that some people don't even know exists. i think we've never really seen it in fiction. i'm very influenced by the writer john updike, who presents a picture of middle america in middle life, and that's exactly what i'm trying to do, but what is new about this is that i'm expressing it from a black perspective and that hasn't really been done before. very much so, because you open the book with a party that is being held to celebrate obama's election in november 2008. so the motif with which the book opens is one of celebration about that particular moment. it was a huge moment, it was universal and there was this element of real celebration
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and i wanted to capture that. i wanted to be able to, many years from then, to be able to open a book and remember what that felt like. it was also a dichotomous moment, because there was this darker aspect to it. london was in a moment of crisis. knife crime statistics were very high. we had also just entered a recession, so even though it was a very celebratory moment, it was also anti—climatic, so i was trying to capture both sides of that. there is a sense, which is strong in the book, that after a high like that, as far as the characters in the book are concerned, anyway, there is bound to be inevitably, because life is life, disappointment. and, you know, a retreat from the mountaintop. yes, of course. the couples go through various smaller crisis points in their own lives but i think essentially it's quite hopeful book. it is hopeful because they are not bad people.
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there is no sense of creeping evil, or great mischief making or wickedness in the book. no. i think they're ordinary people trying to cope with points in their lives where they feel like they're losing a sense of self, and that's what i do in all of my books, really. my first book was about the loss of a twin, what happens beyond that loss. the second book was about the loss of the dancing body in a dancer's life. what happens beyond, and in this book it's ordinary people wondering what happens to them beyond the massive changes of parenthood and marriage. one of the couples at the centre of the story is, i suppose, a classic suburban couple. it is part of suburbia, a very sort of common idea of how life is lived — going off to work in the morning, coming home on the same train or tube. a lot of people might look at it and think, oh, my goodness, am i going to get interested
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in this, am i going to get drawn into...? what is it, do you think, that draws people into a story like this, what do you have to do as a writer to make it sing? it's all about the characters. you have to inhabit your characters as the writer. their good aspects and their bad points. you have to present characters who are immediate. also description and language is important to me. i appreciate writing that shows an interest in language, in the potential of sentences. i think when you bring those two together — character and language and description — you can create so much drama. you've got a kind of soundtrack running through the book. we can hear songs. it's a neat device, isn't it? yes, the title is taken from a john legend song,
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from his album get lifted. music is a big part of my life and it's very important to me. it's a big part of the characters' lives. i was trying to do something beyond literature, to bring in this other dimension. i'm always trying to do something a little bit different to push the boundaries of sentences a bit more. you talked about how you are trying to present a picture of london, really, or how lives are lived in london. at this juncture in our story, our national story, what is your view of the state of london? people moan about house prices, busyness and dirty air and all the rest of it. what is it you feel about the place you're trying to capture? i'm a londoner. i've lived in london all my life. it's such a rich and fascinating, wonderful place. it's so full of stories and history and beauty, but there's also another side to it
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that is quite ugly. it's a very difficult place to live. it's increasingly difficult — financially, socially. yet there is this desire in londoners to remain in london and there is this sense of this is our home. you say this story of ordinary lives, ordinary people and their lives, is a hopeful story, why? it is a hopeful story, because it's about the endurance of the human spirit and about the insistence on the human spirit to claim life and to claim a sense of fulfilment. so i'm trying to celebrate that in the book, as well, at the same time as acknowledging that it's difficult. diana evans, author of ordinary people, thank you very much. thank you.
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after a fairly cloudy start, things have been writing up nicely, and during the afternoon we saw temperatures up to around 18 celsius. we're in for quite a chilly night to come, a bit more cloud for two areas. dance was east anglia and the far south—east, might be a little bit more cloud. showers clear away from orkney and shetland later in the night, so wherever you are it is great to be a fresh start on monday. a touch of gosforth in the most prone sports first thing. through the day we have plenty of sunshine, still quite cloudy out west, particularly for northern ireland and the west of scotland, a bit more cloud working back in two parts of eastern and south—eastern england, and aranguiz coast of scotland some low cloud and missed. other cool about these east coasts, mr gary
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seacoast, inland cambs is around 19 celsius, it should feel pleasant. get ahead, tribe of sunshine, but somewhat cooler through the middle of the week. this is bbc news. the headlines at 8pm. tributes pour in for dame tessa jowell, who played a major role in securing the 2012 london olympics, who's died aged 70. she did everything with the same passive, determination, verve, and she was in unique politician but a dear friend. two british tourists — abducted by armed militia in the democratic republic of congo on friday — have been released. indonesian police say a mother and father and their children carried out three church bombings that killed at least 13 people. theresa may says people who voted to leave the eu will get the brexit they want, but compromises will be
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