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hello. it's thursday. it's 9 o'clock. i'm victoria derbyshire. welcome to the programme. it's been announced this morning that the maximum stake on fixed odds betting terminals will be slashed from £100 to £2 to try to tackle an addiction which can devastate lives. i just went to the counter and i said 500. i lost that in the space of a few minutes. thousand, lost that. thousand, lost that, and another thousand, until i had no more money in my bank account. the move is being welcomed by campaigners but the gambling industry says it means thousands ofjobs will be cut. let us know your experience if you work in a betting shop or you use these machines. what's going to be the impact of this reduction? also — trying desperately to repatriate the bodies of their dead children. we'll speak to a mum and a dad whose son and daughter were both killed fighting for kurdish forces in syria.
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they say they need urgent help to find their children's bodies and bring them home. the uk tech sector grew more than two and a half times faster last year than the economy as a whole. one of the driving forces behind that — so—called compassionate tech. we'll explore what that is and whether it really can help your health and wellbeing. so we just go straight to the appointments screen and it's who it's for, you can choose any appointment time that you like, all right? any day, 21w. you can see that whole film at around 9.15. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. at about 9.15, we're going to talk about a very interesting divorce case which reaches the highest court in the land today. a woman who says her marriage
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is "loveless and desperately unhappy" is going to argue that she shouldn't have to prove, effectively, that her husband has been unreasonable. she should just be able to divorce him without having to apportion blame. so is it time to bring in in this country no—fault divorces? are you going through divorce? if you have, did one of you have to say your behaviour had been unreasonable or wait two years? please contact us through facebook and twitter or email to let us know your experiences. our top story today: the government has announced that it is to set the maximum stake on fixed—odds betting terminals at £2, down from £100. the gambling industry has warned such a move could result thousands ofjobs being cut.
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0ur reporterjim reed has been covering the impact these machines have had on gambling addiction for the last two years. what exactly has the government said? there can be four of these machines in every book—keepers. they have games like roulette, and on each spin of that electronic roulette wheel, you can bet £100, and you can do that every 20 seconds, so you can see how quickly the losses can mount up. the government has always wanted to cut that from £100, and the question has been to what? we got that answer today. right down to £2, the minimum they were considering under this consultation. matt hancock, the government minister in charge of this, has said
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these machines are social blight and they prey on the most vulnerable in society and they are determined to put a stop to it. the most important figure here is this one. last year alone, which ministers will have been looking at, on 230,000 separate occasions, someone been looking at, on 230,000 separate occasions, someone went into a bookmakers and lost more than £1000 asa bookmakers and lost more than £1000 as a result of these machines. 230,000 times a yea r, 230,000 sessions, came with a loss of £1000 01’ sessions, came with a loss of £1000 or there has been a big debate on this, looking at tax revenue and job losses, but they have come down on the side of the social group worried about the social impact, which is why it has been reduced to £2 today. tellers about the reaction to the announcement. campaigners are that is what the government has been looking at. there has been a big debate on this, looking at tax revenue and job losses, but they have come down on the side of the social group worried about the social group worried about the social impact, which is why it has been reduced to £2 today. tell us about the reaction to the announcement. campaigners are earlier we heard about the man who lost a lot of money on these
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machines and this was is you feel empty and you feel empty voice in your telling you you won't do it again and then the other voice said that one win will turn it all around and pay off your debts and there is and pay off your debts and there is a better but you have the voice in your voice telling you you won't do it again and then the other voice said that one win will turn it all around and pay off your debts and there is a better life long, seven 01’ there is a better life long, seven or eight years, and i actually went online on my laptop and i looked for the best way to kill gambling. there is the potential to go crazy especially with these machines and with roulette in general. having children at the time, i thought i would never get out of this. it went oi'i would never get out of this. it went on for however long, seven or eight years, andl on for however long, seven or eight years, and i actually went online on my laptop and i looked for the best way to kill myself that was michael 0'grady speaking before the announcement. other people that i have spoken to are saying a bit of caution is needed. a lot of these games and these bookmakers now have online operations offering the exact
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same games some people saying there is a danger that if you crack down what is happening in the bookmakers, you push people into betting more online asa push people into betting more online as a result, where there is less protection for some of the players involved. it is the impact on the industry as well. head of the industry as well. head of the industry briefing saying that it could cost up to 20,000 jobs in the uk if they cut it down as they have done to two pounds per spin. it could make 900 shops unprofitable as a result. the company that owns ladbrokes says it expects profits to be cut by up to £160 million per year as a result. and then there is the impact on tax revenues as a result. ahead of this announcement they were briefing it could cut treasury revenues by more than £1 billion over three years, money that
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would go on schools, hospitals and the police, and it would have to be plugged another way as a result. your reaction is welcome, particularly if you work in a betting shop or have used these machines. let us know what you think about the maximum stake being reduced from £100 to £2. time for the rest of the morning's news. a review of building regulations in the wake of the grenfell fire tragedy is expected to stop short of calling for an outright ban on combustible cladding. but the government—commissioned report by the engineer, dame judith hackitt, is likely to propose a new system for managing building safety. she's called the current system "broken" and says it "needs to be fixed". tom burridge reports. the type of materials used to build grenfell tower are believed to be a key factor which caused the fire to spread at such a deadly speed. basic tests on the type of cladding used have shown just
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how combustible it is. so those who survived the fire, and relatives and friends of people killed, want those types of building materials to be banned. they're backed by some construction companies, architects and insurers. but dame judith hackitt, the engineer commissioned by the government to review building regulations in the wake of the fire, is today not expected to announce a blanket ban. she will, though, recommend a more rigourous system for managing the safety of buildings in england. the government is under pressure to act. it's announced new funding for removing dangerous cladding from buildings in england. the fire and rescue services have visited over 1250 high—rise buildings and immediate action has been taken to ensure the safety of every resident. councils and housing associations must remove dangerous cladding quickly, but paying for these works must not undermine their ability to do important maintenance
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and repair work. nearly a year on, and the grim legacy of grenfell tower has a long way to run yet. tom burridge, bbc news. president trump has filed a document with an ethics watchdog in washington acknowledging he reimbursed his personal lawyer more than $100,000. the money is alleged to have been used to buy the silence of the porn actress stormy daniels. the president denies her claim that they had a sexual encounter in 2006. the office of government ethics says the filing should have been made last year and has alerted the department ofjustice. a post—mortem has found a us man died after a vape pen blew up and projected fragments into his skull. tallmadge d'elia also suffered burns over 80% of his body in a fire caused by the exploding e—cigarette, according to forensic officials. it is believed to be the first us death from a vape pen explosion. police chiefs say front—line
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officers in remote rural communities could be routinely armed in order to deal with terrorist threats. the move is being considered by the national police chiefs' council. a drive to recruit specialist counter—terrorism firearms officers in england and wales has fallen short of its target by around 100 to meet plans put in place following the terrorist attacks in paris in 2015 which left 130 dead. the prime minister has dismissed a report that ministers have agreed to extend britain's links to the eu customs union beyond the end of 2020 when the post—brexit transition period comes to an end. theresa may is in bulgaria for the eu—western balkans summit in sofia, where she will attend a working dinner with the other 27 eu leaders. the uk will be leaving the customs union, as we're leaving the european union. of course, we will be negotiating future customs arrangements
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with the european union, and i have set three objectives, the government has three objectives in those. we need to be able to have our own independent trade policy, we want as frictionless a border between the uk and the eu, so that trade can continue, and we want to ensure that there's no hard border between northern ireland and ireland. there are fears ofjob losses at mothercare with the company set to close 50 of its 137 remaining stores. former chief executive mark newton—jones is also expected to be re—appointed just over a month after he was sacked over poor christmas sales. full—year results for the retailer are due this morning. some experts predict a 95% fall in profits. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 9.30. thank you. we are just looking at your emails about fixed odds betting terminals and the stake being reduced from £100 down to £2, but we
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are not sure when. this viewer has worked in a bookmakers over 13 years and has seen how much the machines mean to the companies but companies have been driving online betting which is leading to quieter shops and longer periods of lone person working. yes, shops will close and more quickly. nicky says it is a shame there is not more regulation with online gambling. £500 a time for online gambling is absolutely awful. we will talk more about that later. if you have used these fixed odds betting terminals, tell us your reaction to the fact that the state will be cut. is it, as some are suggesting, going to drive more people to online gambling? and if you work in the bookmakers where they have these terminals, do let us know your reaction. you can message us on know your reaction. you can message us on twitter and you can text or use whatsapp. now the sport. we now know who is in the england squad.
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yes, good news for a few younger players. in fact it is the third youngest squad that england has ever named for a world cup. the main surprise inclusion was liverpool's trent alexander—arnold at the age of just 19. he has received his first call—up to the england senior squad arejust at call—up to the england senior squad are just at the right time, head of the world cup. there was an interesting way of announcing the squad as well. take a look. of course he is going to run! go on! danny rose! eric dier! jamie vardy! made in sheffield! yes, some experience in the squad as well with ashley young and harry kane. all in all it was a refreshingly different squad named by the england manager, gareth southgate, for his first major tournament with england. you
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can check out this video on england's social media. nick pope and loftus—cheek with the other main younger players coming into the squad. some saying they were big call—outs, but others saying they really deserve their places. all of the squad happy to be included given their reactions afterwards. trent alexander—arnold, we didn't think he could look much younger but he has been dreaming of the world cup since he was a kid. from that 19—year—old to ashley young, is one of the older players, 32. way back when, there he is, saying dreams come true. defender harry maguire, at euro 2016, supporting england a couple of yea rs ago with his friends, saying what a
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difference a couple of years can make in the life of a sports person. a pretty defensive looking squad for russia. all of the details are available on the bb sport website and app. and gareth southgate will be talking about this. what are we expecting? he will be speaking about this just after 11 o'clock. wondering why he hasn't left outjoe hart and jack wilshere and other high profile names. and secondly the issue of the captain. but some reason england always put a lot of emphasis on the role and the question will be who is getting the armband. there are few main candidates. harry kane could carry the weight of the country on his shoulders. he will be leading the forward line but will he be leading the team as well? he will be favourite for many but his spurs team—mate eric dier did skipperfor the friendlies back in november. the man likely to be his midfield partner for the world cup man likely to be his midfield partnerfor the world cup isjordan henderson who could also get the honour. he had also lived the champions league trophy for liverpool next weekend. he has captained teams throughout his career so he would be the more experienced choice. we will see what gareth's thinking is later but i imagine that he will be holding his cards very close to his chest when
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he speaks to the media later. a 66—year—old woman who says she's been "locked in" to a desperately unhappy marriage will appear at the supreme court shortly — hoping she will finally be allowed the divorce she wants. tini 0wens has been denied a divorce so far becausejudges ruled her hubsand's behaviour wasn't unreasonable enough. she argues she shouldn't have to prove that. at the moment, if you want a divorce in england and wales, one party has to accept blame for the breakdown of the marriage — for example, admitting they've had an affair. if there's no one to blame, couples have to wait — and that's what many senior lawyers and judges want to change. they claim the current system adds additional suffering to an already difficult situation. a ministry ofjustice spokesperson says they're aware of the calls for change — and they're studying the evidence. let's talk to natasha brittan — she is a divorcee and believes the current system made her divorce far harder than it needed to be. family lawyer jo edwards —
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she's also the former chair of resolution, a national organisation of lawyers who focus on non—confrontational divorce. and penny mansfield, director of 0neplus0ne — a charity which has been investigating what makes relationships work. thank you for talking to us. natasha come you divorced from your husband in 2012. how would you describe the process ? in 2012. how would you describe the process? it was a conscious decision we both made to divorce well, kindly and respectfully. it was still difficult and still painful, full of emotion. and actually, we did what we could to keep it peaceful and keep our children protected. so nobody... you didn't apportion blame, you waited two years effectively. well, we didn't. we had
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our documents there, became to the question of whether someone had behaved unreasonably, or had an affair. neither of us felt we had behaved unreasonably. but somebody had to take the blame? yeah, and it was something, we went through and sat on it for a couple of weeks. and what it did was bring up stuff about our marriage, especially towards the end, that we really didn't want to visit, because it is kind of painful, really painful, actually. soi painful, really painful, actually. so i ticked the box. i kind ofjust didn't want it to be difficult, i've got broad shoulders! suck it up and move on. get on with it. jo, how do you respond to that, and do you come across other couples who say, i will tick the box because i want to get on with it, even though i did not
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have an affairor on with it, even though i did not have an affair or behave unreasonably? absolutely, natasha's experience is typical. it has to be said, there is an intellectual dishonesty in the system as we have it at the moment. in england and wales, approximately 107,000 divorces in 2016 and around 60% of those based on faults, whether it is behaviour or adultery. resolution did a survey a couple of years ago where 70% of clients admitted they ticked box to admit an aspect of behaviour. we are here to approach a non—confrontational divorce, to have non—confrontational divorce, to have non—confrontational divorces. 90% of our members in a recent survey said having a fault —based system makes it harder from the get go. having this system increases conflict, encourages couples to apportion blame, and that makes no real difference to the financial outcome, and it can make it more difficult
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for people to agree arrangements for children, and children get embroiled in the difficulties. i would completely agree. the government hasn't taken on board the impact of pa re ntal conflict hasn't taken on board the impact of parental conflict on children. it was raised in a paper on mental health. in the dwp report coming up, there will be approached to remedy that. if we know that, why are we upholding an approach to divorce that will increase parental conflict? it doesn't make sense. bring to the arguments against bringing in no—fault divorces. there are several of them. some of them come from the marriage coalition, which is an organisation. the first one is, a no—fault divorce trivialises marriage. i fundamentally don't agree with that. the reason i say that is that in my experience, and i have practised in family law for 20 years, people
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don't wake up on a thursday morning and say, i will go and see my divorce lawyer this morning. you sniggered when i said it trivialises marriage. why was that, natasha? totally. it's one of the most terrible things you can go through in your life, one of the most emotionally raw, painful and difficult, traumatic... people hold anger and bitterness and sadness for yea rs anger and bitterness and sadness for years and years after a divorce. so the idea a no—fault divorce means you can have a quick divorce, and people will be divorcing all over the place... it is nonsense, because paradoxically one can get a divorce more quickly now based on fault —based grounds than what the proposals for reform are. that's interesting. it's about making the process kind, not making divorce easier. they also say the no-fault divorce already exists, you just have to wait two years. that is certainly true, but people, for various certainly true, but people, for various reasons,
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certainly true, but people, for various reasons, can't, or don't wa nt various reasons, can't, or don't want to, orfind various reasons, can't, or don't want to, or find it difficult to wait two years. decisions have to be made and children are growing up. it's encouraging dishonesty. it's not fair. it's not thinking of children. and it's not cost—effective. children. and it's not cost-effective. the marriage coalition also say no—fault divorces could put the most vulnerable at risk by removing protections in the current system for those who become disabled or suffer a financial setback and whose spouse currently cannot divorce on this basis. turning that around, with the law as it stands, if you have somebody trapped in an abusive marriage, for example, the other party can make them wait five years, and in that five—year period, as penny has said, there are normally issues around children you want to resolve, and also you cannot access financial remedies. if somebody is trapped and cannot get out, it is worse than the sort proposals being talked about.
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and to add briefly, the experience in otherjurisdictions, people will say it will lead to a huge increase in the numberof say it will lead to a huge increase in the number of divorces, that has not been the experience in other countries where they have had this. they have it in scotland, australia, canada and the usa. an e-mail from somebody who wishes to remain anonymous. when i divorced my first wife, i had tojump through hoops. i had a new relationship and had to admit adultery, despite the fact my then wife was six months pregnant by another man. i laughed at the absurdity. it makes me smile now, but the point remains that the law in this respect is wrong. what's being proposed, and this is supported by a number of people, resolution has advocated change for a numberof years resolution has advocated change for a number of years but the president of the supreme court and the family division support reform. i know penny and her organisation do as well. to simplify matters, it should
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bea well. to simplify matters, it should be a system of notification. 0ne well. to simplify matters, it should be a system of notification. one or both parties signalled they think their marriage has ended. they then wait for a period of time and there is room for debate there. resolution say it should be six months. others might say months. during that period they access services about counselling, the children, finances, and at the end of that period, if one or both of them are still other view, they are entitled to the decree. there is no need to apportion blame. paradoxically, that means those divorces will take longer than some of the default divorces at the moment, which can ta ke divorces at the moment, which can take four or five months. it's not about making divorce easy, it's about making divorce easy, it's about giving people a more dignified exit from their marriage, where they have thought long and hard about this. it shouldn't be the place of the state to dictate whether or not they can do that. would you agree, natasha? totally. i feel like it's a
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kinder way. it's less painful as a hurdle. actually, are we all not supposed to be a bit kind and supportive of each other as society? it doesn't make divorce easier necessarily, just kinder. the resources that are going to getting divorced, the evidence is strong that you can do far more about strengthening relationships at an earlier stage. we know for example that expecting a baby is a time when relationships first, under pressure. the early years are important. we can pick those things up, help people. we have a successful programme called how to argue better, where young couples who are stressed and having difficulties, they can work through it. why put all the resources at the end? put it where it can make a difference. thank you for coming on the programme and we will see what happens with the supreme court in this case. we'll go from divorce to
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marriage. there are only two days to go until the royal wedding and a full rehearsal of the big day is due to start injust over an hour's time. meanwhile, the papers are full of news and speculation about meghan markle's family. as well as various websites and other sources. her dad is reported to have had successful heart surgery days which the newspapers say means he won't be able to come. and ms markle's half—sister has been involved in a traffic accident in florida, reportedly caused by paparazzi trying to take her picture. joining me now from windsor is our royal correspondent, sarah campbell. what's going on there? in windsor, as you say, there is the military rehearsal that will start this afternoon, giving people a real flavour of what it will be like on saturday. you mentioned those reports coming in from america about meghan's family. we don't know officially whether or not thomas markle will be able to walk his daughter down the aisle. we know she
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wa nts daughter down the aisle. we know she wants that to happen. but there have been reports from us gossip website tmz, who have apparently been in touch with him, and he says he has had heart surgery, and is not expected for a few days. he will be in hospital, so it looks extremely unlikely. the palace have said no comment, it's a private matter. but it's clearly an issue people are concerned about, who will walk meghan down the aisle? it's generating a lot of interest. people have been outside the castle, camping out, as there always are at these events. a real international spread. michelle from melbourne australia, faith from london, and donna from connecticut. it's a long way to come for a wedding, michelle. it is, but it's exciting and part of history. the feeling here is electric, and you can feel it building up. it's wonderful. i have met lots of friends and we are having a great time. harry and meghan will visit sydney, so you
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could have waited to october. but i will see her as a bride with harry on her wedding day. that's amazing and i'm looking forward to it. it's and i'm looking forward to it. it's a special event. there will probably not be another royal wedding this big for some time. why not be here now? i might not be here next time. faith commie camped out and it was pretty chilly last night. it was freezing, but we got through it. and we think friday will be even colder. this isn't your first royal wedding. it's my fourth. i started with diana and prince charles. it feels like i've done the whole family now. donna, you are from connecticut, a long way to come. you have been two other royal weddings, but this is your first outside london. other royal weddings, but this is yourfirst outside london. how other royal weddings, but this is your first outside london. how does windsor feel? it's amazing, the excitement in the air. the backdrop of the cassell. 1000 years old, started by william the conqueror.
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henry viii is buried beyond those walls. its history on the making. i can't speak to an american and not as if you are not a tiny bit excited about an american joining the british royal family? certainly, the first time since princess grace of monaco was made america's princess. i'm very happy for them, but i am more happy he has found somebody he loves, and she loves himssfif—f, ggzzéfié 3; thank - patrick.
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still to come: one of the driving forces behind the growth of the uk technology industry is compassionate tech — digital solutions to look after our health and wellbeing. we'll have a look at some of the biggest success stories. time for the latest news. here'sjoanna. the bbc news headlines this morning: the government has announced that it is to set the maximum stake on fixed—odds betting terminals at £2, down from £100. the machines exist in thousands of bookmakers throughout the uk, and the major betting companies say that reducing the stake limit will force them to close hundreds of shops with the loss of thousands of jobs. campaigners say the machines are highly addictive and ruin lives. my experience of fixed odds betting terminals is that you can lose huge amounts of money extremely quickly. the last time i had a major relapse on these machines was in september 2017,
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when even though i'm supposed to be excluded from every bookmaker in this country, i was able to step into a bookmakers and lose £2740 in 42 minutes. president trump has filed a document with an ethics watchdog in washington acknowledging he reimbursed his personal lawyer more than $100,000. the money is alleged to have been used to buy the silence of the porn actress stormy daniels. the president denies her claim that they had a sexual encounter in 2006. the office of government ethics says the filing should have been made last year and has alerted the department ofjustice. a post—mortem has found a us man died after a vape pen blew up and projected fragments into his skull. tallmadge d'elia also suffered burns over 80% of his body in a fire caused by the exploding e—cigarette, according to forensic officials. it is believed to be the first us
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death from a vape pen explosion. police chiefs say front—line officers in remote rural communities could be routinely armed in order to deal with terrorist threats. the move is being considered by the national police chiefs' council. a drive to recruit specialist counter—terrorism firearms officers in england and wales has fallen short of its target by around 100 to meet plans put in place following the terrorist attacks in paris in 2015 which left 130 dead. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. thank you. just out, breaking news. the review into building regulations, which as you know was commissioned after the grand felt our fire. commissioned after the grand felt ourfire. dame commissioned after the grand felt our fire. dame judith hackett, commissioned after the grand felt ourfire. damejudith hackett, who has been reviewing what happened, as concluded that indifference and ignorant lead to a race to the bottom in building safety practices
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with costs prioritised over safety. that is the main line coming from the report that has just been published. this review into building regulations commissioned after the g re nfell regulations commissioned after the grenfell fire has concluded that indifference and ignorant lead to a race to the bottom in building safety practices with costs prioritised over safety. that is a damning conclusion. there is much more to come from that report. it has just been published and we will discuss it in detailjust after ten o'clock. dame judith discuss it in detailjust after ten o'clock. damejudith hackett saying that in terms of building regulations, cost was prioritised over safety. that report commissioned after the fire at g re nfell tower. commissioned after the fire at grenfell tower. now the sport. hello. the england manager gareth southgate will be speaking to the media just after 11 o'clock today, discussing that 23 man world cup party. 0n the agenda will be the captaincy. southgate is not expected
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to confirm his skipper today. atletico madrid won the regular league title last night beating marseille 3—0 in what was former liverpool striker fernando torres's final game for his home—town club. simon yates has hung onto the big journey in the giro d'italia, winning the second stage of the race, extending his lead by 47 seconds. and johanna konta, the british number one, is due on court in the italian open in the next half an hourfacing in the italian open in the next half an hour facing jelena 0stapenko after she beat the taiwanese who is the way in straight sets. we will have more after tait —— ten o'clock. thank you. the uk tech sector grew more than two and a half times faster last year than the economy as a whole. one of the driving forces behind that success is compassionate tech — start—ups that tackle health and welfare problems
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like helping to get homeless people into work or making it easier to get an appointment with a gp. and it's thought the uk is investing more in these sorts of tech companies than the rest of europe put together. so could this be the answer to relieving pressure on our stretched public services? rick kelsey has been hearing about some of the biggest success stories. i ended up staying with my friends and i ended up sofa surfing from place to place, so i didn't really have anywhere. even though i wasn't, like, on the street homeless. davina has had nowhere to live for seven years. it can affect your mood a lot, because you don't have your personal space that's yours. like, that's the thing that gets to you the most. i had no direction whatsoever. i wasn't thinking about what i needed to do.
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in the long—term it was just hand—to—mouth, really. rough sleeping in england has increased for seven years running, but there's a radical new solution to give homeless people the chance to train into a new profession, notjust find somewhere to live. it's all part of a wave of new compassionate tech companies. i had to make a change and decide what i wanted to do with my life, because living the way i was living wasn't good for me. now davina is being funded by strangers to train in her dream job as an accountant. beam, the company behind it, set up the training taking £1 in every £10 from sponsors they get through social media. my campaign got funded in, like, nine days, it was really, really quick. and i felt like there are people out there that i don't even know that
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are willing to support me, so it makes me feel great. today, davina is meeting david, one of her biggest funders. he didn't have to donate, so i'm going to pick his brains a bit. i'd like to know why because there's plenty of campaigns and plenty of other ways he could have supported someone. i kind of want to know why me? so i suppose this is a big moment, isn't it? yes, finally get to meet david. right. i'm going to give you a bit of space and leave you two to it. 0k. all right. good luck. i recognise that face. how are you? hello, david. i wanted to ask you why you chose to fund my campaign. well, i was looking through some of the other members and yours kind of resonated with me, because i did accountancy, like, probably — i don't know how
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old you are, and i won't ask — but back in the '805 i qualified, so i was reading your story, and i could see all the adversity and i could see the homelessness and, you know, i'm thinking it was tough enough for me, and for you to do it in the face of that type of adversity, i think you've got a lot of courage, to be honest, because i would have thrown the towel in, to be honest. it's good to see you. i mean to be honest for me, it is not such a big deal. i know it seems like a lot of money, maybe, to you. yes, it's definitely for me. now here you can see davina. now this is something that davina put together, with the support of her member manager. so how much of a dent in the homeless problem do you think you can actually make? well, a big one. what we are doing is we are empowering individuals who have the potential to train up, get intojobs, to do so. now we are doing that at first with a small number of people and that's fantastic, but what we are designing is something that is both very personalised and removing
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the specific barriers they face, but is also going to scale to help a really large number of people. are you ever worried that you could just be seen as making money out of the homeless problem? so we're not making money out of the homeless in any way at all. we don't charge money to homeless people to join this service and we hope that in the fullness of time this is a service that the government will pay for because that will allow us to help as many people as possible, and that will also allow us to save money for taxpayers, because at the moment homelessness is a very expensive problem that every taxpayer is bearing the brunt of. well, if you love it, you give it numbers. so if you're given numbers you're going to go a long way. i wish i could give you some tips. maybe give you some tips along the way. i would like to thank david more than anything. you're welcome. i'm very grateful. and i want to know how you progress, because i want to see how it all develops and i wish you loads of luck. thank you. shake hands. that's very corporate. come on, give us a hug.
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there you go. good luck. thank you. some start—ups in compassionate tech are already embedded within state health and welfare. so i'm going to try and get an appointment with my gp for my dodgy back. we are currently experiencing a high volume of calls. did you know... could be a while, this. you are currently caller number three. number three in the queue. been on hold for ten minutes. two, i'm number two. numbertwo, i'm numbertwo! been here that long it's started raining. i've been on hold for almost 15 minutes now, and i've got to get back to work, whereas last time i called there wasn't an appointment for almost two weeks but what if there was another way? so we're going to go and meet phil. he is an early adopter of one of the biggest success stories in this type of technology.
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phil. you all right, mate? how's it going? you're the gp guy. i'm the gp guy. my hours can be anywhere from kind of eight in the morning to eight in the evening, at which point the surgery is closed, or you know they have that one day a week where they're open until 8.30 if you're lucky, and that's if you have the appointment at that time, which obviously you can't get the appointment at the time. so i woke up in the morning and had a really swollen eye, i was looking in the mirror. i was looking in the mirror, "oh no, that doesn't look too good." and by lunchtime i was like, no this is ridiculous, i need to go see a doctor so i scrambled, googled around what i could do and then i saw a gp at hand, and then i had scheduled a visit with a doctor, kind of sent him a picture of what my eye looked like,
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and he was like, 0k, looks like you have an eye infection, then wrote me an electronic prescription to get some eye drops. within about half an hour i was down boots the chemist picking up my prescription, and then yeah, within an hour had treatment in my eye. gp at hand is a free face to face nhs service on your smartphone, though they can call you into see a doctor if they think it's serious enough. it does though mean getting rid of your local gp and currently it's only available in london, but it looks likely to expand. it's got a little bit of information on the phone, and i can learn more about it if that's what i want to do. so we don't want people to think that it's some service it isn't. this is a full nhs general practise, it isjust digitalfirst. up comes the app. and you have a couple of choices, you can either book straightaway or you can check if you actually need to see the doctor. i've got a bad back. can we tell it that? yes. let's do that. you're going to want to book an appointment as soon as you can, if you're in pain you want to get that sorted out. so we just go straight to the appointments screen. and who it's for.
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you can choose any appointment time that you like. all right. any day, 2a/7. and i'm just going to book. you havejust booked me an appointment in six minutes' time? ijust booked you an appointment for six minutes' time because that was the next one available. i could have booked you one for another ten minutes, 20 minutes, any time of day or night, it really is a 24/7 service. it is about having your appointment from the comfort of your own home or office, anywhere quiet, and the gp will pop up on your phone at the time you decide. the royal college of gps have said that this thing won't work for people who need continual care. it's not for everyone, is it? the royal college of gps has said how positive it is about technology and that's great. it does work for anybody who wants to choose it. the one thing we always say is it's up to you. if you want to choose a practice at the end of your road because that's the practice you like, terrific. now you guys work with the nhs on this, why bother? why notjust do it privately? well, first and foremost because in the uk people have
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already paid their taxes. the vast majority of people receive their nhs health care particularly primary care through the nhs. why wouldn't we want to be part of the nhs? reaching people with new tech like gp in hand is a lot easier if they're closer to eight than 80, but it seems one of the difficulties in reaching older people is notjust their dislike of new technology, but it's also in their hands. marian used to have difficulty staying in touch with her grandchildren. ifind if i'm using my mobile i have to sit down, hold it here, and very carefully do all this business. i can't do what the children do. comp is a new bit of compassionate tech to help loneliness in older people. now marian's grandchildren send her pictures every day and she can take their calls hands—free. hello, darling.
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how lovely to see you. how are you? fine. how are you? i've never opened the front door and someone say "good afternoon, we're the bbc"! sometimes i've been able to ring back and say thank you for that, that was a lovely surprise but it's mostly the connection with the family. ijust switch it on, no problem, and there's a new photo for me to see and i think that's interesting or that's fun. especially like little lily, my great grand daughter. that was lovely to see her. i wanted to find out why they focussed on the older market. so we had to develop something that fitted into everyone's lives, and then let the seniors be part of everything that is happening online without demanding anything of them. this is £59 a month. surely you just get older people
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who want more technology a phone with some big buttons? first of all, if you're thinking about touch screens that are made with different apps with bigger buttons, touch screens doesn't really work, because they have, 50% of those over 80 have dry fingerprints. not a big problem in itself but touch screens don't react. if you've ever seen seniors trying to swipe or drag or whatever on a touch screen and they don't manage its because the tech is not developed for them, so i think, no, you can't really get them something that is slightly altered, you have to start over. is technology not geared to older people simply because many of them just don't want it in their lives? i think that's a misconception that's happened because we've been forcing tech made for and by millennials on to senior groups, and then they don't love it, and then they never have been online, and then we say you have to try this, this is amazing. and it doesn't work, and i think you lose motivation
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the second you try to learn something that you, one, don't know why you should learn it, you've never been online, so you don't know what you're missing out on, and two, you've never seen before. why would you feel like you need it? there is criticism from some charities that compassionate tech should not be needed if support from public services was there in the first place. the public sector and the government do not have a monopoly on ideas about how to help people in need. so i think we all need to play our part in resolving these problems and giving people hope and the tools they need to make a better life for themselves. does the success of compassionate tech show that there are too many gaps in state health and welfare that people are falling through? well, i think there are always gaps,
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and health and social services are always trying to keep up with the demand, and the need, and so there will always be some gaps, but i think it's notjust about addressing gaps and unmet need, i think it's also about enabling services to work better. what's clear is where some people are not getting direct help from the state, they are now getting increasing support by new private technology companies. the amount that happens, whether backed by government or not seems to be rising faster in the uk than anywhere else in europe. the parents of two people who were killed fighting for the kurds in syria have written to the government here to help
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bring their bodies home. this is anna campbell, a 26—year—old from sussex, who went to syria last summer to fight with the women—only unit, the ypj. she was killed in march this year in the town of afrin, near the turkish border. and this is haukur hilmarsson, a 31—year—old icelandic activist that travelled to syria to fight with the international freedom battalion of the ypg group in 2017. in february this year, the ypg told his mother eva that he'd been killed in a turkish airstrike. since then both parents have been unable to have their children's bodies repatriated. we'll be talking to them in a moment. earlier this year, anna campbell's family shared some footage with us and spoke to us shortly after her death. my name is helin qerecox.
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my name from before was anna campbell. ijoined the ypj in march of last year. and now i've just finished, we've just finished, this education of ideology and military. she was kind of an interesting person. she was the kind of person, that she wouldn't tiptoe around being english and polite. she was just very grounded in what she wanted. she stole a chicken from one of the nearby houses. got her friend to kill it. and now we're going to have meat. so, ijoined because i wanted to support the revolution, and because i wanted to participate in the revolution of women that has been built up here. at that moment, the bottom has fallen out of my world because i knew she was dead. we're going through the whole gamut of despair, grief, anger, loss.
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guilt, in my case. as i say, i know that she would never have forgiven me if i'd stopped her from going. but i feel like i could have done more to raise awareness of what was going on. that was anna's dad dirk campbell. he's here now. and in glasgow is eva hauksdottir, whose son haukur also died fighting with a kurdish group in syria. thank you both for talking to us. can you explain to our audience what the problem is with bringing your daughter's body home? the governments of the world are doing nothing to pressurise turkey into observing its obligations under the geneva convention. it means the
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bodies of those who have fallen, not only members like my children, but hundreds of thousands of other people, competence and civilians, are lying in the streets in the ca nton are lying in the streets in the ca nto n of are lying in the streets in the canton of afrin. they have been a four months, they are rotting, being eaten by dogs and wild animals. it isa eaten by dogs and wild animals. it is a scandalous outrage. it is literally unbelievable that they are deliberately doing that. our children, we are not going to get them back, obviously. but the least that we hope for is that we could have their bodies back. in some cases, because there are no witnesses to the death of an individual, the families don't even
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know if they are dead or not. the red cross is not being allowed in. the turkish army will not allow in the international red cross. the turkish army will not allow in the international red crosslj the turkish army will not allow in the international red cross. i am going to bring in eva, do you know for sure your son is dead? no, we don't know for sure. there is no evidence, no eyewitnesses. obviously we don't have the body. so we don't know for sure. since such a long time has passed, i think he is dead, but some of our friends and family still believe he may be alive. this isjust a very still believe he may be alive. this is just a very strange situation. when you cannot even mourn properly. the icelandic government tell us that your son's case has been "a top
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priority those quote for them. it would seem they have done a lot through diplomatic channels. trying to speak to the turkish authorities, who have said they will do everything they can to find him. they say no information has been obtained about what happened to your son. i think they really want to help us. of course, this is not only about that. it's also about the basis of international law. i think that should be addressed. i have also asked them to contact the turkish media that say they have haukur's body, and they will repay treat it. they refused to contact us and say where they got the news from. i also want them to contact the turkish authorities and confront
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them about this. why are the bodies still lying there? i think diplomatic channels are maybe not the best way to do that. they tell us that the turkish police advised them only to use diplomatic channels. and i really don't think that the turkish police is the best people to get the advice from. mr campbell, i don't know what you think the british government is doing, but they say to us, through the foreign office, as we have no consular presence in syria, our ability to help is extremely limited. they go on to remind people not to travel to syria, it's against their advice and they put themselves at considerable risk. they have a consular presence in turkey. they could do a lot more. what are you
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calling on them to do?|j could do a lot more. what are you calling on them to do? i want our government, and i don't know about other governments, the icelandic government, i don't know what they have been doing, but i know our government has been doing virtually nothing. i know the foreign and commonwealth office say they would exert pressure on the turkish government, but i haven't heard a thing in two months, since anna's death was reported. what i wanted to do, and president erdogan of turkey, who has been received in london with a red carpet, despite the fact these atrocities are going on. desecration of dead bodies, people being dragged around, dead bodies being dragged around, dead bodies being dragged around on ropes at the back of trucks. winning the fight raped and killed —— women fighters being raped
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and killed and their bodies cut up. you can see all this on the internet, but our government is turning a blind eye to this. i want them to be held to account for what they are doing. and also for the general picture. there is a genocide going on in syria. the kurdish people have been on the receiving end of horrendous, outrageous treatment by all the various groups in that area. and now the turks, who are armed by the british government, armed by the british weapons industry, my daughter and haukur we re industry, my daughter and haukur were probably killed by british missiles. so our arms industry is continuing to supply and equip
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armies of repression and genocide in the middle east. and it's wrong. thank you very much for coming on the programme. we will see what happens and continue to report on your mission. a report into the grenfell tower fire says there was a "race to the bottom" in building safety practices, but it falls short of banning materials capable of burning from tall buildings. that report out in the last 15 minutes. we will bring you all the details on that report after ten o'clock. we will have the latest news and sport. before that, all the weather. after a chilly start, the temperatures are rising nicely. for most it will be dry with sunny
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spells. high pressure is dominating the weather. not many isobars on the chart, so not as windy as yesterday, but we will have an onshore breeze, especially on the southern part of the north sea coastline. some areas of cloud floating around. hazy sunshine and sunny spells will be the order of the day with cloud building up as we go through the afternoon. nothing to write home about. the temperatures are looking at between 1a and 17. a wee bit cooler on the coastline where they are exposed to the onshore breeze. into the evening and overnight, early evening sunshine to look forward to. as we go through the night, under clearer skies it will be chilly, not as chilly as the nightjust gone but chilly nonetheless. colder in north—east scotla nd nonetheless. colder in north—east scotland and north east england, possibly a touch of frost. at the same time, a weather front approaching from the west to bring more clout to western areas and
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we'll see some spots of rain getting into the west of northern ireland and the outer hebrides. tomorrow, after a fine, dry and sunny start, a wee bit of cloud across east anglia and the south east that will melt away. cloud building in from the west again, turning the sunshine hazy. temperatures up to 18, maybe 19, but still cool on the north sea coastline. especially the southern flank of it. if you are heading to windsor for the royal wedding on saturday, and you are planning to get there early in the morning, the overnight temperature will be quite low, looking at five or six. the temperature will pick up rapidly in the sunshine. by lunchtime it should be 17, and 20 or 21 later into the afternoon. bear that in mind if you are going. saturday sees a chilly start once again with a lot of dry weather around. a fair bit of sunshine. out towards the west, as the weather front bumps into the high pressure, you will find the
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cloud will thicken and some of the cloud will thicken and some of the cloud could push further east. so the sunshine is hazy rather than blue skies, with highs of up to about 21. on sunday, a chilly start, the weather front making more progress bringing rain with it, but most of it will be light. i'm victoria derbyshire. welcome to the programme. "cost prioritised over safety" — that's the damning conclusion of a review into the grenfell tower fire last year, which killed 71 people. but the review stops short of calling for a ban on flammable cladding. it was published in the last half an hour. we'll get reaction from a survivor of the fire and those whose families were affected. the maximum stake on fixed odds betting terminals will be slashed from £100 to £2, to try to tackle an addiction which can devastate lives. i just went to the counter and i said 500. i lost that in the space of a few minutes.
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thousand, lost that. thousand, lost that, and another thousand, until i had no more money in my bank account. and as rehearsals start for prince harry's wedding to meghan markle, we'll hear from royalfans in windsor hoping to catch a glimpse of the couple on their big day. it isa it is a once—in—a—lifetime opportunity to see something which we may never see again. he has got a special place in the hearts of the british people, harry. he is very well loved all over the world. good morning. time for the latest bbc news with annita mcveigh. good morning. a review of building regulations set up after the grenfell tragedy does not propose an outright ban on flammable cladding. the senior engineer commissioned by the government to undertake the review published her report this morning. damejudith hackitt concluded that indifference and ignorance led to a race to the bottom
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in building practices with cost prioritised over safety. she's calling for better enforcement of existing rules. we will be discussing this report in more detail injust we will be discussing this report in more detail in just a few minutes. the government has announced that it is to set the maximum stake on fixed—odds betting terminals at £2, down from £100. the machines exist in thousands of bookmakers throughout the uk, and the major betting companies say that reducing the stake limit will force them to close hundreds of shops with the loss of thousands ofjobs. campaigners say the machines are highly addictive and ruin lives. president trump has filed a document with an ethics watchdog in washington acknowledging he reimbursed his personal lawyer more than £100,000. the money is alleged to have been used to buy the silence of the porn actress stormy daniels. the president denies her claim that they had a sexual encounter in 2006. the office of government ethics says the filing should have been made last year and has alerted the department ofjustice.
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a post—mortem has found a us man died after a vape pen blew up and projected fragments into his skull. tallmadge d'elia also suffered burns over 80% of his body in a fire caused by the exploding e—cigarette, according to forensic officials. it is believed to be the first us death from a vape pen explosion. police chiefs say front—line officers in remote, rural communities could be routinely armed in order to deal with terrorist threats. the move is being considered by the national police chiefs' council. a drive to recruit specialist counter—terrorism firearms officers in england and wales has fallen short of its target by around 100. the recruitment was to meet plans put in place following the terrorist attacks in paris in 2015 which left 130 dead. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 10.30. thank you. and thank you for your
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comments on divorce. there is a case in the highest court in the land today. effectively a woman who has beenin today. effectively a woman who has been ina today. effectively a woman who has been in a long marriage which has been in a long marriage which has been desperately unhappy for a long time. she said she shouldn't have to prove that a husband's behaviour has been unreasonable and she should just be able to get a divorce. this emailfrom vinny. that just be able to get a divorce. this email from vinny. that is why we wa nt email from vinny. that is why we want a civil partnership because if it is over the two parties can really walk away with no waste of money on solicitors etc. that is not very romantic! nicky says i separated from my husband and i didn't realise i had to pay the higher rate. it was the higher rate stamp duty on my former home. it was £9,000. we were not ready for divorce. we got lucky but what about vulnerable couples? this could trap them. audrey says i divorced my x yea rs them. audrey says i divorced my x years ago and i had my reasons. i found it really stressful that i had
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to fulfil the criteria of blame in order to get the divorce. i do think divorce should be made more compassionate, kinder, to save ruining two lives. sarah says my husband refused to admit his a fire or his unreasonable behaviour even though we separated and he was with the woman he had the affair with. i had to wait two years to get the divorce because i couldn't bear the long winded process of fighting him with solicitors. and julie on twitter says i stayed in my marriage ten yea rs twitter says i stayed in my marriage ten years too long. there divorce wouldn't have helped. i was gas lighted and my confidence crushed andi lighted and my confidence crushed and i did get out. you need support and i did get out. you need support and confidence. thank you for your comments. if you are tasting you will be charged at your network rate. now the sport. thank you.
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gareth southgate will be speaking to the media after 11 o'clock today discussing his world cup squad. raheem sterling! of course he is going to run! eric dier! danny rose! jamie vardy, made in sheffield! there was some experience named with the likes of gary cahill and ashley young but all in all a refreshingly different squad named by the england manager gareth southgate for what will also be his first major tournament with england. you can check this video out on england's social media by the way.
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ruben loftus—cheek and nick pope were also big calls to come into the squad but on form. a lot of the players yesterday reacting to being named on social media. trent alexander saying he had been dreaming of a world cup since he was a kid. he called it an honour to represent the team. and ashley young, 33 years old, his first world cup, he put up a picture of himself asa cup, he put up a picture of himself as a young child saying it was a dream come true. atletico madrid have won the trophy for the first time in nine years. it was fernando torres's final game from his boyhood clu b torres's final game from his boyhood club and his first major trophy for them as well. it is very special and emotionally may be the most important one that i have won in my career because it is with my former
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clu b career because it is with my former club and my last chance to win. but you are with chelsea. but you have the chance to win a trophy, that is more important than another trophy. nearly a third of british elite athletes say they have experienced or witnessed unacceptable behaviour in their world—class programme. a survey of summer olympic and paralympic athletes by uk sport was undertaken following a series of bullying scandals over the last year. 31% of athletes said they didn't have the opportunity to give feedback without fear of negative consequences. quite simply what this survey has done is identify something that can be better in this high performance system and we have people out there in every sport who really wa nts people out there in every sport who really wants to be better and we will concentrate on the action plan and address that and enable that to be easierfor and address that and enable that to be easier for athletes to give that feedback. we will monitor how that progresses and improves over the coming years. britain's simon yates has stayed in the pinkjourney at
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the giro d'italia. —— pinkjersey. the second stage of this year's race. he attacked with a thousand kilometres to go and he finished ahead of his nearest rival for the title, extending his lead over the reigning title to 47 seconds over all. british number one johanna konta is just getting all. british number one johanna konta isjust getting under way against the french open champion jelena 0stapenko is at the italian open. you can listen to that one over on radio 5 live. there is more sport for you in the next hour. thank you. we are going to talk more about the review into the grenfell tower fire which killed 71 people about the review into the grenfell towerfire which killed 71 people in west london last year. this review has been published in the last half an hourand it has been published in the last half an hour and it said that cost was prioritised over safety when it came to the building. damejudith hackitt‘s report concluded that
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indifference and ignorance led to a race to the bottom in building safety practices. she calls for a wholesale change in culture when it comes to fire safety. but co ntroversially comes to fire safety. but controversially stopped short of a ban on flammable cladding. she says she wants to see a radical rethink of the safety system after the fire lastjune. it of the safety system after the fire last june. it was of the safety system after the fire lastjune. it was found that the building had cladding on the outside that was not fire resistant. the cladding on almost 230 buildings has failed safety tests since then. let's talk to our correspondent caroline davies in central london. tell us exactly what you have been told from this review. good morning. this is the 156 page report that we we re this is the 156 page report that we were given first thing this morning from dame judith were given first thing this morning from damejudith hackitt. as you say, she hasftzfg-z-é— from damejudith hackitt. as you say, she hasfté—ee-‘eé short 77 $ the
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safety and building regulations. antonio roncolato lived on the 10th floor of grenfell tower and is still in temporary accommodation. fiona greaves lives in a 12—storey block in manchester. conservative peer lord porter chairs the local government association, which speaks on behalf of councils. and lucy grove from the national housing federation, who gave evidence to the hackitt review. how do you react to watch dame judith hackitt has concluded?” how do you react to watch dame judith hackitt has concluded? i am not happy at all, to be honest. she is talking about a system that needs to be changed and fire regulations and so on but what about prevention? if we do not put the butterball material on any high—rise building, that means that half of the problems are solved. —— combustible material.
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i‘f‘ that and other half of do you i it is ridiculous. g the w m thing. w m thatgs’” ' " " ’ j w m that people” if“:f’ ' 7 n 7 f w m that peoples lives f€ ' 7 77 7 f w m nothing, that peoples lives f€ ' 7 77 7 f w m nothing, absolutely a—‘s lives f3 7 7 3 3 f w m nothing, absolutely nothing f3 7 7 3 3 f w m nothing, absolutely nothing f33 3 3 3 3 f mean nothing, absolutely nothing at all. she stopped short of doing the most important thing, banning them. it is absolutely ridiculous. absolutely ridiculous. people can't sleep at night. people are scared to sleep at night. people are scared to sleep at night. fire wardens in the building are falling asleep. how does this make any sense? to be honest with you, victoria, i am not surprised. when you have people on a panel with conflicts of interest,
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only to benefit from these things, how will they encourage them to be banned in the first place? lucy, you are one of the organisations that submitted evidence. do you understand the anger of our guests that combustible cladding has not been banned? from our point of view, what has been shown is that the whole system is completely broken. i haven't had the chance to read the report yet because it has onlyjust been released. housing associations prioritised above all else the safety of their residents. what the government has got to do is act quickly and decisively on things like materials and set out clear and unambiguous regulation. do you accept that? with what else is dame judith hackitt do you accept that? with what else is damejudith hackitt has said in a report? she said she doesn't think material that is combustible should
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be used on high—rise buildings and if there is a whole root and branch reform of the whole building regulation system, which she is calling for, perhaps it will lead to combustible cladding not being used on high—rise blocks? combustible cladding not being used on high-rise blocks? the word perhaps is insane for me. 72 people have lost their lives. the regulations stipulated that they we re regulations stipulated that they were not supposed to be used over a certain height, but they were still used anyway. what is she scared of? why can't she just ban it? who does she want to please? it shows everyone in the whole country that their lives mean absolutely nothing. would you agree with that, that you could read from this that their lives meant nothing? absolutely. i'm totally upset. haven't we learned anything from the past? why do we have to wait so long to come to this silly and stupid conclusion? sorry
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about this word. what is the government therefore? don't forget, they are there to take the people's recommendation, not only certain people. we are the ones living in those towers. the horror that night, costing sony people their lives, many lives wrecked and disrupted for ever. “— many lives wrecked and disrupted for ever. — — costing many lives wrecked and disrupted for ever. —— costing so many people their lives. what do we have to wait for? it is absolutely incredible. in great britain, in london?! what are we waiting for? it's only a matter of political will. if there is a political will, anything can be solved. that's my opinion. lord porter chairs the local government association that speaks on behalf of local government and councils in england and wales. what's your reaction? to put it bluntly, we share the concerns you have already heard. to say that there is a long—term change that is needed is
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not going to be sufficient to allow people to sleep safely tonight. there needs to be an immediate, even if it is an interim ban, a ban on all combustible material, not just cladding but installation as well. people should not have to sleep in fear of the night—time. there are plenty of materials we can use that are not combustible. we advise the 16 councils that on tower blocks affected by this, that they should be added again in non—combustible material. why do you thinkjudith hackitt might have stopped short of an all—out ban? hackitt might have stopped short of an all-out ban? it's not for me to say why she stopped where she stopped. but the new secretary of state, when he looks at the report, also bears in mind that there is a quick solution to this problem, rather than a long—term one she is proposing. the owner, thank you for joining us. you live in a 12 story block in manchester. what's your reaction? i'm really disappointed to hear that. i think there needs to be
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an absolute ban on combustible cladding. there is no other solution other than that. people are fearful, and they can't sleep at night. they feel scared and worried. yeah, i'm just really disappointed. what about one of the other main conclusions, which was there was a race to the bottom, and cost was prioritised over safety by com pa nies bottom, and cost was prioritised over safety by companies involved in refurbishing these tower blocks. absolutely, because i think money takes precedence over a lot of people's decisions when it shouldn't. it should be people, people's lives are more important than that. but unfortunately decisions that are made are taken by that. i totally disagree, cladding needs to be banned. antonio, i said
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in the introduction that you are still in temporary accommodation. everybody knows it is almost 12 months since the fire. can you explain to our audience the impact on your life now? my life has been totally changed since the events of la st totally changed since the events of last year. i lived for seven and a half months in a hotel, and then moved into temporary accommodation. it is nice, it's good and everything, but i can't start rebuilding my normal life, knowing that i will eventually have to move. my son was also moved into temporary accommodation. only about three weeks ago, he was told that he would have to move out again because the flat where he is being accommodated at the moment is being put up for sale. if you put somebody in temporary accommodation, it should
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be there for as long as it takes for the council to look for new accommodation, and a proper one. the councils, the landlords, have served notice, and he will have to move again. what incompetence is that on behalf of the council? do you know what i mean? it is a total lack of tact, feeling. we are not asking for promises to do this, or promise you will do that. the council, local authority, the government, they have said we would be rehoused permanently by this time. they were actual promises. you should do something like this, putting temporary somewhere, and keep them there until something becomes available, no problem. but it is very disrupting. my son is totally upset. we have been following your mother's progress on the programme
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and we will update our audience soon on how she is getting on. how would you describe how your mother is now, having survived that fire, and how she is now? in answer to that, my mother is one of the most resilient people i know. this really affected her. she is getting better, but if i may, victoria, to be perfectly honest, news like this, this morning, it doesn't help anyone. not the survivors from grenfell tower, not all the other buildings that have cladding. please stop me when you feel i have gone on for too long, butjudith you feel i have gone on for too long, but judith hackitt you feel i have gone on for too long, butjudith hackitt has come out with the comment that it's something to do with cost. why is she patronising us? we all know it was something to do with cost. we are not asking her to look at them. then doing it because of cost. we
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know it is cost. herjob was to look at the regulations and to ban cladding. you can't do the simplest thing because you are scared, or because the people at advising you are profiting from it. it's ridiculous. why are the survivors, why are people having to beg, why are people having to beg to live safely? if the government doesn't do something about this, i guarantee we will do something, and there will be a change because i am fed up of people living on the —— fed up of people living on the —— fed up of people living on the —— fed up of people living unsafe. thank you to all of you forjoining us. as you heard, people not happy at all with the main conclusion from damejudith hackitt‘s report that can boast of a
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cladding should not be banned. one of the growth areas of the uk technology is so called "compassionate tech". but what is it, and does it work — we'll speak to an entrepreneur who runs an online service helping women with their reproductive health. this morning, the government has drastically reduced the maximum stake on fixed—odds betting machines to £2. these machines are so addictive, they've been described as the ‘crack cocaine' of betting. but the gambling industry says thousands ofjobs will be lost as a result. let's talk to tony franklin — he lost around a million pounds, his house and 30 years of his life to a gambling addcition. also here is david bradford. from the campaign for fairer gambling is matt zarb—cousin, who found himself addicted to fixed odds betting terminals as a student. he has campaigned against fixed odds
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betting terminals since — though with a stint working asjeremy corbyn's spokesperson. christopher snowdon is from the iea, a free market think tank. he has written a report criticising legislation and any £2 limit. the iea is the institute of economic affairs. thank you to all of you for coming on the programme. tony, what's your reaction? i am very pleased with today's announcement. this is, simply put, a victory for common sense and for all the problem gamblers and their families and loved ones out there struggling every day with this addiction. and those who might lose theirjobs and theirfamilies? those who might lose theirjobs and their families? they should talk to their families? they should talk to their bosses. when they introduced these automated machines 18 years ago, there was no discussion then about the loss of skilled jobs and the transition to single staffed shops. the industry knew this was
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coming. they haven't taken the issue of problem gambling seriously, and they have backed themselves into a corner on this issue. matt? i am delighted the government has come to an evidence —based decision, and £2 isa an evidence —based decision, and £2 is a state that will reduce harm to those addicted already, and reduce addiction from content such as roulette machines. ithink addiction from content such as roulette machines. i think the bookmakers have overplayed their hand, overstated the impact onjobs and the wider economy. fixed odds to terminals are the biggestjob destroyer within the industry. the numberof terminals destroyer within the industry. the number of terminals has gone up and then numberof number of terminals has gone up and then number of people employed by then number of people employed by the industry has gone down. they are heading towards automation anyway. what is your reaction?” heading towards automation anyway. what is your reaction? i think it will obviously lead to thousands of jobs being lost. bookmakers on average are making half their profits from their machines. there
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are not many industries where you can remove half the profits and expect them to carry on. bookmakers by the thousands will go bust and disappear from the house from the high street. the problem gamblers willjust go online. chris conley was supposed to be an economist. the money will not evaporate from the betting shop. it will go online. it will go to bookmakers are not based in this country and not paying tax in this country and not paying tax in this country. can we let christopher speak, and then matt can respond. the jobs will go online. the people will go online now and play roulette and slot machines with no regulation, and unlimited stakes and prizes. some of those websites they go to might be owned by william hilland they go to might be owned by william hill and ladbrokes, but they go to might be owned by william hilland ladbrokes, but a they go to might be owned by william hill and ladbrokes, but a lot will be owned by companies not based in this country, jobs not based in this
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country and taxes not paid in this country. what regulations would you like to see online, chris? fixed odds betting terminals, problem gamblers lose more money on those in any other. it's a huge proportion of harm associated with these machines, particularly, because it's a cached demographic. because of where betting shops are located, because of the instant pay—out. that money will not evaporate from the betting shop. i think it will either go to the £2 games or over—the—counter, where it is a safer product. you saying those customers that do go online, you're saying it like it's a problem. what regulation would you like to see online because i would like to see online because i would like to see stakes restrictions online next as well. i am not here to talk about the online market. clearly there are more regulations that could be required for some of the companies not based in this country. but that's the problem with
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trying to regulate the internet, it's extremely difficult to do because companies are not based in the uk. what we currently have, and will soon be destroyed, is an industry that is very tightly regulated in this industry, stafford can deal with customers, and people will disappear. they will not just go online, they will go to the pubs, casinos, arcades, and other sections of the gambling industry that have been bankrolling the fixed odds betting terminals over the last few years. let's not deny the damage it will do. i don't care if bookies close down because people are not betting on fixed odds betting machines or horse racing or whatever. but i do mind them being forced in that direction as a result of what is effectively regulatory capture by certain sectors of the gambling industry. tony? the simple fa ct gambling industry. tony? the simple fact is the decision has been made andi fact is the decision has been made and i would encourage the government to implement the decision as fast as possible. there is definitely a broader issue and a discussion which has been acknowledged by the
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government that needs to be had around all forms of gambling. and by the way, i hope this decision sends shivers down the spines of the industry executives. if you build a business model that is basically about extracting huge profit from highly engaged players, those people being gambling addicts, and the poorest and most vulnerable in society, then ultimately you will be held accountable. it's the same companies online doing the same things. the maximum stake on some online games is £500, not £100 like these machines. the focus now has to move to online. we also need to have now. . . move to online. we also need to have now... there are cultural shift is going on. it has generated and removed a lot of stigma associated with gambling addiction and we see more people coming forward with their personal stories, hugely tragic stories. through the campaigningi tragic stories. through the campaigning i have done, i have met numerous people who have lost a
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loved one. somebody who has felt they had to end their life over this issue. i have had moments where i have collapsed to the floor and felt so desperate that i have thought about ending my own life. i had to see my two—year—old son crying for weeks on end because we were evicted from our flat, because weeks on end because we were evicted from ourflat, because i had a gambling problem. what do you tell your two—year—old son? my wife, and we have been estranged for more than five years because of my addiction, is still dealing with the consequences that she didn't ask for. she suffers from stress, permanent anxiety, the consequences of the debt, and the impact this is having on people around those with a gambling addiction, the societal costs are enormous. and many will have an enormous amount of sympathy for you, and there will be those who say, why didn't you just stop gambling? gambling is a hugely misunderstood... as i say, the vast majority of profits come from a
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minority of highly engaged people. you say the addiction is an illness. they have addictive personalities, and these companies exploit those people. because of the courage of people like tony telling their stories, what we have seen over the last few years, problem gambling is notjust about the individual. the product plays its part. if you have a visible casino, one spin every 20 seconds, £100, that will give you a hit three times a minute, which is a highly addictive product. reducing the stakes will reduce the harm associated with it. i will pause there. no, go on? the mood swings i was having from my gambling were so violent that i was repeatedly diagnosed for bipolar medicated for a condition that i didn't have because that was how it was presenting to the doctors. gambling
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addiction is multifaceted and it is addiction is multifaceted and it is a very complex area and we need to have a lead from the nhs. we need to have a lead from the nhs. we need to have a lead from the nhs. we need to have a statutory government levy so we can properly fund and channel people through the nhs. i now know that i am adhd. we are in mental health awareness week as well. having that proper diagnosis and being properly medicated for the condition i have has removed all of the fog, the nonsense, the inability to ta ke the fog, the nonsense, the inability to take a grip. it has allowed me to actually get control of my gambling. thank you very much. thank you to all of our guests. still to come before 11 o'clock: with just two days to go until the royal wedding, we're in windsor as rehearsals get under way for harry and meghan's big day. time for the latest news. here's annita. the headlines on bbc news:
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a review of building regulations set up after the grenfell tragedy says "cost was prioritised over safety" but does not propose an outright ban on flammable cladding. the senior engineer commissioned by the government to undertake the review published her report this morning. damejudith hackitt concluded that indifference and ignorance led a race to the bottom in building practices. she's calling for better enforcement of existing rules. the government has announced that it is to set the maximum stake on fixed—odds betting terminals at £2, down from £100. the machines exist in thousands of bookmakers throughout the uk, and the major betting companies say that reducing the stake limit will force them to close hundreds of shops with the loss of thousands ofjobs. campaigners say the machines are highly addictive and ruin lives. motherca re has announced it's closing another 50 of its 137 remaining stores in a bid to turn around the struggling business. former chief executive
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mark newton—jones has also been reappointed just over a month after he was sacked over poor christmas sales. it's expected the closures will result in hundreds ofjob losses. a commissioner is to be appointed to improve children's services in surrey. the government took the decision after two 0fsted reports rated surrey‘s children's services as inadequate. the most recent report found the most vulnerable children were exposed to harm for too long. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. thank you. and thank you to your reaction to dame judith thank you. and thank you to your reaction to damejudith hackitt‘s review, which has stopped short of banning combustible cladding for high—rise buildings. the review was commissioned after the grenfell tower fire. david says commissioned after the grenfell towerfire. david says i commissioned after the grenfell tower fire. david says i was a fire officerfor tower fire. david says i was a fire officer for years tower fire. david says i was a fire officerfor years and tower fire. david says i was a fire officer for years and we fought to keep regulations in the control of the brigades but it was taken away
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from us and now we have this result. and this one, i am saddened by this. who benefits from this decision? this tweet. if the cladding is ok, let's cover the houses of parliament in itand let's cover the houses of parliament in it and the houses of mps, and see how they sleep at night. obviously the lives of those who live in g re nfell the lives of those who live in grenfell and other buildings like that are not a priority to the people governing the country. and this one: this is an insult to people who died in horrifying and terrifying circumstances due to plastic cladding and the loophole not demanding an outright ban on its use makes the report worthless and an open door for use makes the report worthless and an open doorfor more use makes the report worthless and an open door for more cost—cutting. some very strong comments from you and our guests, a survivor of the fire and the daughter of a woman who survived the fire with her grandson. now more sport. gareth southgate will be speaking to the media just after 11 o'clock today, discussing his 23—man world cup party.
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0n the agenda will be the captaincy, although southgate isn't expected to confirm the skipper today. antoine griezmann scored twice as atletico madrid won the europa league last night. they beat marseille 3—0 in what was liverpool striker fernando torres's final game for his hometown club. britain's simon yates held on to the leader's pinkjersey at the giro d'italia winning his second stage of the race. he extended his lead over tom doumoulin to 47 seconds. and british high jump and british highjump gold medallist has retired from the sport. the highlight of his career was winning bronze at the london games in 2012. more sport at 11 o'clock. more comments from you. this is about the two parents trying to repatriate the bodies of the children back to the uk. children! grown—ups, young people, who went to fight on behalf
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of various forces against so—called islamic state on the board of syria and turkey. alex mclaughlin said these people... the state has no responsibility to repatriate or assist in bringing back their bodies. they did not ask the state's permission to take up arms. peter says as sad as it is for the families, they must bear in mind that the uk government did not turn these people to syria. in fact the government has told people not to go. would they be asking the government to take action if it was not their children who had gone to syria? i doubt it. and having gone to turkey last week and coming back and seeing this first hand, all the dead bodies were treated with respect and buried. if you choose to go for a respect and buried. if you choose to go fora war respect and buried. if you choose to go for a war zone do not expect people to go looking for you to bring you home when you have been told not to go. we're talking about compassionate tech this morning. that's technology designed to help
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tackle health and welfare problems like online gp services where you can get an instant appointment, or sites that help homeless people get a job. we've been to meet some of the biggest compassionate tech success stories and find out if it is the private sector's job to be delivering the services or is it the government's responsibility? we brought you rick kelsey‘s full film earlier. here's part of that report focussing on a young woman called davina. i ended up staying with my friends and i ended up sofa surfing from place to place, so i didn't really have anywhere. even though i wasn't, like, on—the—street homeless. davina has had nowhere to live for seven years. it can affect your mood a lot, because you don't have your personal space that's yours. like, that's the thing that
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gets to you the most. i had no direction whatsoever. i wasn't thinking about what i needed to do. in the long—term it was just hand—to—mouth, really. rough sleeping in england has increased for seven years running, but there's a radical new solution to give homeless people the chance to train into a new profession, notjust find somewhere to live. it's all part of a wave of new compassionate tech companies. i had to make a change and decide what i wanted to do with my life, because living the way i was living wasn't good for me. now davina is being funded by strangers to train in her dream job as an accountant. beam, the company behind it, set up the training taking £1 in every £10 from sponsors they get through social media. my campaign got funded in, like, nine days. it was really, really quick. i felt like there are people out there that i don't even know that
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are willing to support me, so it makes me feel great. today, davina is meeting david, one of her biggest funders. i recognise that face. how are you? hello, david. i wanted to ask you why you chose to fund my campaign. well, i was looking through some of the other members and yours kind like, probably — i don't know how old you are, and i won't ask — but back in the '805 i qualified, it was tough enough for me, and for you to do it in the face of that type of adversity, i think you've got a lot of courage, like, probably — i don't know how old you are, and i won't ask — but back in the '805 i qualified, so i was reading your story, and i could see all the adversity and i could see the homelessness and, you know, i'm thinking it was tough enough for me, and for you to do it in the face of that type of adversity, i think you've got a lot of courage, to be honest, because i would have thrown the towel in, to be honest. this is something that davina put together with the support of her member manager.
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how much of a dent in the homeless problem do you think you can actually make? a big one. what we are doing is we are empowering individuals who have the potential to train up, get intojobs, to do so. we are doing that at first with a small number of people, and that's fantastic, but what we are designing is something that is both very personalised, removing specific barriers they face. it is also going to scale up to help a large number of people. i would like to thank david, more than anything. you're welcome. i'm very grateful. and i want to know how you progress. i want to see how it all develops. i wish you loads of luck. thank you. there is criticism from some charities that compassionate tech should not be needed if support from public services was there in the first place. the public sector and the government do not have a monopoly on ideas about how to help people in need. so i think we all need to play our part in resolving these problems and giving people hope and the tools they need to make a better life for themselves. what's clear is where some people are not getting direct help from the state, they are now getting increasing support by new private technology companies. the amount that happens, whether backed by government or not seems to be rising faster in the uk than anywhere else in europe. let's speak now to daniel korski —
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a former advisor to david cameron, who now helps tech start—ups to work with the public sector. lina chan describes herself as a compassionate tech entrepreneur and author tugce bulut, who thinks technology can help to alleviate poverty. thank you for coming on the programme. daniel, these technology start—ups, could they be the answer to smarter and more efficient public services? they are absolutely the answer. we seek digital economy is booming and a big part of that economy is focused on other things, getting pizza to you faster, improving health care and welfare and improving lives and training opportunities for the homeless. there are exciting things going on when you and agile and fast—moving companies bring new technology to bear on older problems. something exciting is happening in the uk. does it sit comfortably for you? some of these tech start—ups making money out of it? absolutely,
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companies are making money are the public sector. these new start—ups are cutting costs, delivering efficiencies and operating in a much more agile way. yes, they are earning money, but they are allowing for efficiencies that don't exist today with large incumbents. give me an example of how they are more efficient? what's happened in the last couple of years is technology has transformed what we can do, and the price of technology has collapsed, allowing a small company to emerge, some of whom are represented here today, using cloud technology to deliver services faster than large economies in the past that had invested thousands of people to get the same result. ba bylon, people to get the same result. babylon, featured in the piece, they are a good example. they can bring peer to peer appointments within ten minutes, a good example of tech
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innovation. tell us about what you run? i may founder of ideal health, helping women through their reproductive journey, from family planning, pregnancy and the menopause. we provide them with better access to experts, doctors and therapists, learning tools and a supportive community, and that's through the ease of their mobile phone or through the web.” through the ease of their mobile phone or through the web. i think it's amazing, and i think making money is an important part of the sustainability of the programme as well. if you are running efficient systems, at the same time you can cut costs by using technology. you are making the service available in an affordable way, and the company still continues to make money, making it sustainable and not dependent on government funding or aid. what about potentially excluding the older population? that must be a concern. it's an interesting question, but let's remember the sex pistols are about
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to retire. mick jagger remember the sex pistols are about to retire. mickjagger now belongs to retire. mickjagger now belongs to the older generation. this older generation we talk about is not the older generation of yesteryear. we also know from that generation, their uptake of digital technology is far faster and greater than we have seen before. we shouldn't think that old equals technically disadvantaged. i wasn't saying that, but some people will be excluded. there is technology that is bringing a voice to older people. in the piece they talk about it being hard for older people to touch screens. but there is great advancement in voice technology. i was speaking to a founder couple of weeks ago, they are developing technology where you can wear it on yourarm, are developing technology where you can wear it on your arm, and if you fall and you can't call for help, it can send a message to your children orto can send a message to your children or to your family, to let them know. we can use technology in innovative ways to support the elderly
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population. one of the biggest issues we face with that population, the rising cost of social care, digital technologies such as this particular instrument and many others, cannot just particular instrument and many others, cannotjust cut costs, making it easier for carers as well, but also give a wraparound service to the older population who would probably otherwise have a pretty standard support offered by the state. even in areas where older people will be worried, technology can be helped. quite what about those who, it still sits uncomfortably that the private sector is offering this? even given the advantages we have discussed, some people believe the state should be providing health care, for example. there is providing health and then providing additional services and support. i think innovation is an important part of the discussion. it should probably not need to happen under the
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government umbrella, but should the government umbrella, but should the government support this happening in private companies? absolutely, and the uk is one of the best places for that. there are amazing technology incentives, and tax incentives, and that helps companies bringing new technology forward for public health. it makes a lot of sense. ideal was born out of previous organisation, that was a great example of how the public and private sectors came together. camden town hall supported us, some of the best tech entrepreneur supported us among others. thank you, very interesting. if you live in the countryside, would you want to see your local police carrying guns? the head of armed policing says it could be one way to tackle terror threats in rural areas.
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in10 minutes time, a massive rehearsal will get underway in windsor ahead of prince harry and meghan markle's wedding on saturday. our royal correspondent sarah campbell is in windsor. everybody gearing up for it. i'm in the grounds of windsor castle. some of the rehearsal will take place behind the castle walls so people will not be able to see it. but they will not be able to see it. but they will be able to see the procession, a full military rehearsal with 250 members of the armed forces taking pa rt members of the armed forces taking part on the day. the captain's escort, escorting the carriage after the wedding and lining the steps as meghan markle goes in and as they both come out on the chapel steps. that will all be rehearsed today so they can make sure everything is in place and they know exactly how long each element will take. there will bea each element will take. there will be a lot of disruption here in windsor over the next couple of hours, but giving people the chance who have camped out overnight. we
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have spoken to some of those people discussing the flavour of what they will see here today and on saturday. regarding the review that was commissioned after the grenfell tower fire, commissioned after the grenfell towerfire, stopping short commissioned after the grenfell tower fire, stopping short of a ban on combustible materials in buildings, new housing secretary james brokenshire i will make a statement in the commons at 12:30pm, a statement on the banning of combustibles will be made by new housing secretary james brokenshire at 12:30pm. you will be able to see that live on the bbc news channel. police chiefs have said front—line officers in remote, rural communities could be routinely armed in order to deal with terror threats. the move is being considered by the national police chiefs' council because of a lack of specialist counter—terrorist firearms officers. police said arming officers in remote areas would be a last resort. i'm joined in the studio by ex metroplitan police officer tony long, and via webcam by professor peter squires, a specialist in police use
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of force and gun crime. tony, would you back this? there is nothing new with this, it was done in 1800 ‘s nothing new with this, it was done in1800 ‘s in nothing new with this, it was done in 1800 ‘s in london. nothing new with this, it was done in 1800 's in london. very different times! before the suburbs extended to where they are now, police officers on rural beats before cars and radios, they had no back—up, so they were given guns to protect themselves from being seriously injured or killed. but now in modern britain? i was speaking to an officer as i was waiting to come on, who is currently serving as a senior officer in a rural police force that cove rs a officer in a rural police force that covers a large area, and they recently did an experiment, and it took one hour and ten minutes for an armed response vehicle to get to a town to provide support. we know that in the london bridge attack, one i'm very proud to say my former unit got to the scene and eliminated
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the threat within eight minutes, there were still unarmed officers arriving on the scene. eight minutes isa arriving on the scene. eight minutes is a long time. in theory, i am in favour of it. but in theory i am in favour of it. but in theory i am in favour of it. but in theory i am in favour of arming all front line officers. peter, would you be in favour of routinely arming police officers in rural areas, in theory, in principle? in principle i don't think it's a good idea. the police chiefs have acknowledged this would be an absolute last resort. i don't think it does what is wanted. it is expensive, we already... apparently not as expensive as having an armed response unit on stand—by in case of an incident in a rural area. i'm not sure about that. let me explain. we have a highly professional armed response capacity. it's probably the best armed response capacity in the
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world. those officers are extensively trained and they have to requalify. the problem here is around the cost of this and deployment of officers. officers will be withdrawn from front line duties in order to constantly train and requalify, unless we are willing to accept a lower standard of professionalism, i don't think anybody wants to go that way. we have cherished the idea of policing by consent and minimum use of force for the entire duration of modern policing. i think it would be a fundamental error to lose that in the context of a particular exceptional threat at the moment. tony, can you talk to peter directly? is peter suggesting that other police forces in europe do not police by consent? my experience is they do. if you go somewhere that is virtually a police state, like russia. police forces around the
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world rely on the support of the public. dutch police officers i know going to primary schools and talk about road safety with young children with a gun on them because it is part of the uniform. there is a myth in this country that we are the only people who police by consent, and i'm afraid it is utter nonsense and always has been. do you wa nt nonsense and always has been. do you want me to reply? yes please. i think, yes, policing operates by a range of forms of consent, but we are one of the four police cultures in the world where we have retained the routinely unarmed front line response, and i think that is important and it makes a difference. our police officers also shoot people considerably less often than other police forces, and i think thatis other police forces, and i think that is a standard to maintain. i don't think the routine arming solves anything, and creates further problems. we know just solves anything, and creates further problems. we knowjust how controversial, tony knows himself, how controversial it can become, and
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the repercussions for trust and confidence in policing, especially in minority groups that get the worst deal from policing and are often the most frequently victimised. can you explain? it is controversial. absolutely, that is why we're having this conversation. tony, explain how you know it can be controversial. i was an armed police officerfor 25 controversial. i was an armed police officer for 25 years and was involved in several shootings. 100 days before i was due to retire in 2005, i was involved in a fatal shooting and from a legal perspective it took ten years before i eventually faced a trial at the central criminal court. it is controversial, and that is one of the reasons why, depending on where you take the polls, i think there is a 50-50 you take the polls, i think there is a 50—50 split on officers who are prepared to carry firearms. that is because we have only ever recruited officers on the understanding that they don't have to carry a firearm u nless they don't have to carry a firearm unless they wish to do so. i think
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the problem is, i think it is inevitable. there was a panorama documentary last night, and you only had to look at the footage from camera phones, from cctv, to see the level of violence that is in our society now. we are not the peaceful society now. we are not the peaceful society that we have dealt with. police officers are the first to arrive at the scene of one of those incidents, and because of huge cuts to the police service, we do not have the coverage we had. that means officers are on their own for a long period of time, dealing with violent armed suspects. thank you both for coming on the programme. thank you for your messages on a variety of subjects today. on betting, and the fact the maximum sta kes will betting, and the fact the maximum stakes will be slashed from 100 to £2 for fixed odds betting stakes will be slashed from 100 to £2 forfixed odds betting machines, adrian says the government proposals are good, but it is only scratching
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the surface of gambling addiction. and another one on grenfell tower... mark durnan e—mails to say that as an architect working on high—rise projects in dubai, i am astonished the report issued regarding this appalling tragedy could be so equivocal in the light of recent high story fires in dubai. the building regulations have effectively been rewritten with the input of specialists. mark says the decision regarding flammable cladding is driven either by insanity, a lack of putting people first, or corruption. 0n the news channel at 12:30pm you can hear the new housing secretary make a statement on the banning of combustible cladding. you can see james brokenshire i live from 12:30pm. we will be back tomorrow from 9am and bbc newsroom is coming up from 9am and bbc newsroom is coming up next. a beautiful day out there today with
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lots of blue skies and sunshine that is looking likely to stick around for the next few days. similar pictures up and down the country to barnsley. a little bit of cloud sitting out towards northern and western areas, but for much of the country it is a big area of high pressure that is dominating weather today. a lot of dry weather across the board. not wall—to—wall blue skies, but it will feel warmer with less of a breeze than we have seen recently. the only exception around the north sea coasts where it will feel cooler. 17 or 18 is the top temperature inland. clear skies through the evening and overnight. combined with the clear skies is a recipe for a chilly evening ahead. friday morning starting on a frosty
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note in rural areas but it will warm up note in rural areas but it will warm up and feel sunny through the day. this is bbc news, and these are the top stories developing at 11am: the maximum stake on fixed—odds betting machines is to be slashed from £100 to £2 under new government rules. iam i am absolutely determined to do the right thing by the hundreds of thousands of people, including some of the most vulnerable people who can least afford to lose this skill of money. —— scale of money.
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a review into the grenfell tower fire says cost was prioritised over safety but stops short of recommending an outright ban on flammable cladding. donald trump officially discloses his reimbursement to his lawyer, who paid a porn star to hush up her claims of an affair.
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