tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News May 29, 2018 9:00am-11:00am BST
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hello, it's tuesday, it's 9am, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. our top story today... doctors and nurses who treated the father and daugher after that nerve agent attack in salisbury have told the bbc they didn't expect the pair to survive. we would try all our therapies, we would ensure the best clinical care, but all the evidence was there that they would not survive. for the first time, we now know how many primary school children in england are severely obese. campaigners say urgent action is needed. we are in the uk already the most obese nation in western europe and we have to tackle the youngsters, we have to tackle this at an early stage, if we are to make real progress in improving our nation. how do you tackle it? let us know. what's it like to be locked in?
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in her first british tv interview, we'll hear the remarkable story of a mum—of—three and scientist, who had to learn to breathe, speak and walk again after a sudden catastrophic infection nearly killed her. it left her locked in and only able to blink. hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. half—term for most children this week, are you a mum or dad worried about your child's weight? or maybe you're a child and you'd like to lose weight or have lost weight? how difficult is it? with one in 25 primary school leavers classified as severely obese, we're going to be talking about this just after 10am. your own views and suggestions are really welcome, as always. use the
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hash tag, you can tweet us, you can send us an e—mail, whatsapp as well, and if you are texting, we will have to charge you. our top story today... medical staff who treated sergei and yulia skripal after their poisoning in march have told the bbc they didn't expect them to survive. doctors and nurses at salisbury district hospital say they originally suspected the pair had suffered an opium overdose. the skripals were found unconscious on a bench in the city. they'd been poisoned with novichok — a soviet—era military—grade nerve agent. russia denies any involvement. mark urban reports. we were just told that there's two patients down in the emergency department who were critically unwell and they would be coming up to the unit. it was very quickly established that the victims were yulia skripal and herfather, one—time russian spy sergei, and that the police
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regarded it as suspicious. i made the phone call and i spoke to the nurse in charge who had been on that night and it was a conversation that i really could never have imagined in my wildest imaginations having with anyone. at first, an opioid overdose was suspected, but as the skripals fought for their lives, the diagnosis changed to nerve agent poisoning. when we first were aware this was a nerve agent, we were expecting them not to survive. we would try all our therapies, we would ensure the best clinical care, but all the evidence was there that they would not survive. when a policeman also fell ill, hospital staff started to wonder whether they too might be in danger. i suppose a key marker for me was when the pc was admitted with symptoms. there was a real concern as to, how big could this get?
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at first, it was simply a matter of keeping the skripals alive. heavily sedated, both of them were given big doses of drugs to protect them from the effects of the poison and help restart their bodies‘ production of a key enzyme. the human factor was vital too. excellent teamwork by the doctors, fantastic care and dedication by our nurses, i guess supported and supplemented a great deal by some input from really, really well—informed international experts, which very fortunately some of whom happened to be on our doorstep at porton down. that laboratory, internationally known for its chemical weapons expertise, processed tests and offered advice on the best therapies. yulia was discharged in april and last week made a statement thanking the hospital. but it took several more weeks before sergei skripal could follow her out of salisbury district. they have been brought back from the brink of death,
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but questions remain about the longer term. mark urban, bbc news, salisbury. more of course on newsnight tonight at10:30pm on more of course on newsnight tonight at 10:30pm on bbc two. joanna gosling is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. the man asked to become italy's caretaker prime minister is trying to put together a government. carlo cottarelli — a former director at the international monetary fund — has promised to run a neutral administration until fresh elections can be held. however, the two main parties which had been expected to be in power — the five star movement and the league — are expected to block any programme he submits to parliament. the political crisis in italy is putting pressure on european financial markets. one in 25 primary school children in england aged between ten and ii is severely obese. the local government association has analysed data released by public health england earlier this year. it says child obesity
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is contributing to a multi—billion pound ill—health time bomb. our medical correspondent, fergus walsh, reports. the weight and height of children in reception, aged four to five, and in year six, when they are 10—11, is measured each year in primary schools across england. for children in reception, nearly 15,000, or around one in 40, is classed as severely obese. that rises to more than 22,000, or one in 25, for children aged 10—11. each year, more children are leaving primary school overweight, but this is the first time the national child measurement programme data has included the severely obese category. we are in the uk already the most obese nation in western europe and we have to tackle the youngsters, we have to tackle this at an early stage, if we are to make real progress in improving our nation. the local government association said the figures were a worrying
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wake—up call and warned that today's obese children risked having their years of healthy adult life cut short by a host of health problems, including type 2 diabetes, cancer and heart disease. youtube has deleted more than 30 videos which police say are contributing to a surge in violent crime across london. it comes after the metropolitan police commissioner cressida dick highlighted so—called drill music as a weapon being used by gangs to taunt each other on social media. youtube said it was working with authorities to take action on gang—related content. andy moore reports. drill music like this is accused of not only glamorising violence but of contributing to real crime. this video was used in evidence in a recent murder trial. hundreds of tracks are available
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on social media, some have been viewed over a million times. they often feature hooded and masked gangs making violent hand gestures. the met police commissioner cressida dick said the videos were used by real gangs to taunt each other and have been linked to at least one attack. she called on internet companies to show social responsibility. scotland yard has asked youtube to take down between 50 and 60 videos it believes raised the risk of violence. the company said it had removed more than 30 clips which were found to be in violation of its policies or broke the law. youtube, which is owned by google, said it shared the deep concern many felt about this issue and was continuing to work constructively with experts. one of north korea's most senior officials is reported to be on his way to the united states as both countries finalise plans for a possible meeting between president trump and the north's leader kim jong—un.
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the chances of a summit on i2thjune were thought to be over last week after the us president called off the meeting, citing the north's hostility. both sides have since been working to get the planned meeting in singapore back on track. coffee chain starbucks is closing all 8,000 of its shops in the united states today to teach staff how to avoid discriminating against customers. the training follows the wrongful arrest of two black men in a branch in philadelphia last month. 175,000 employees will spend four hours learning about unconscious bias and racism in public places. local authorities in england are to be given additional money by the government to help create 740 more school places for children with special educational needs. the extra £50 million will also be used to provide new facilities to support children with complex needs, such as sensory rooms and playgrounds with specialist equipment. the minister for children and families, nadhim zahawi, says each council will
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receive up to £225,000. police in newjersey have opened an inquiry after a video emerged showing a police officer punching a woman in the head whilst making an arrest. the footage, posted on social media, shows three officers from the wildwood police department attempting to detain 20—year—old emily weinman. she was later charged with illegal possession of alcohol and for resisting arrest. an internal investigation is under way into what happened and two of the officers have been placed on administrative duty. the owner of chelsea football club, roman abramovich, has claimed israeli citizenship. the russian billionaire flew to tel aviv to be given an identity card under the law of return, which allowsjews to become citizens of israel. he's recently had problems extending his british visa, but holders of israeli passports are allowed to enter the uk without a visa. thousands of spectators have been treated to the annual cheese rolling competition in gloucestershire.
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the event sees an eight—pound cheese — a double gloucester — chased for 200 metres down the steep hill. chris anderson came from behind to win. he's come top 22 times in the competition's history. however, he won't be eating his prize, as he only likes cheddar. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30. thank you very much. if you are getting in touch, you are very welcome, particularly if you want to get in touch about obesity in primary school children, 22,000 children leave primary school severely obese, not just children leave primary school severely obese, notjust overweight, severely obese, notjust overweight, severely obese, notjust overweight, severely obese, there is one message from the suggesting that if your primary school child is obese, that is effectively child abuse. johann lamont facebook says, it is all about education, no other country in
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europe where children drink crisps and eat coca—cola the breakfast. 0nly early education can change that ——joe 0nly early education can change that —— joe allen on facebook. another says many do not do pe regularly. is that true? you're view and suggestions, particularly with on half term this week. now the sport. three weeks till the world cup and one of england's stars has had a controversial tattoo on his late. —— on his leg. has had a controversial tattoo on his late. -- on his leg. this is the tattoo, an assault rifle on his right leg, he posted this picture on social media that england training this week. it has angered anti—gun campaigners including the founder of mothers against guns whose son was
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shot dead and she said he should cover up shot dead and she said he should cover up the tattoo or be banned from the england team. raheem stirling has defended the image on social media saying, when i was two, my father died from being gunned down to death, i made a promise to myself i would never touch a gun in myself i would never touch a gun in my life, i shoot with my right foot so my life, i shoot with my right foot so it has a deeper meaning and it is still unfinished. the thoughts of raheem sterling. lots of reaction as you would expect. plenty have come out in support including the former england striker gary lineker. he said the paper's criticism was disgusting and he said, another attempt to destroy our players‘ morale before a major tournament, it is weird, and pop trio —— unpatriotic and sad. another england side with problems, the england cricket side and former captains calling for a shake—up. cricket side and former captains calling for a shake-up. michael vaughan has never been short of an
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opinion and he wants a shake—up of the england team before the second test against pakistan on friday at headingley. they were well beaten by nine wickets in the first test at lord‘s earlier this week, a bit of a humiliation, and he believes it is time the selectors dropped the highly experienced bowler stuart broad and james anderson. england have not been winning for a long time, keep going with the same old every single week, this isjust a kind of thinking time and i hope people within the team and the management, would it make little difference? management, would it make little difference ? you management, would it make little difference? you never know. are they winning at the moment? no. are they as good as they were three years ago? no. iwant more in as good as they were three years ago? no. i want more in terms of mentality. it might trigger the team into thinking, none of us are safe. harsh words from the former england captain michael vaughan. the second test gets under way at headingley on
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friday. that is all the sport for 110w. later we‘ll bring you news on the numbers of severely obese primary school children, about youtube taking down some of the violent music videos online, blamed in part by the country‘s top police officer for fuelling a surge in murders and violent crime in london, but right now we‘re going to introduce you to a remarkable woman, rikke schmidt caregard. she was told she had the flu, but less than a day later she was in a coma in intensive care battling a severe bout of bacterial meningitis. 12 days later she regained consciousness but she had been locked in her body — she was awake, aware, could hear and see, but couldn‘t move or speak. the only way she could communicate was by blinking. despite being givenjust a 5% chance of survival, rikke taught herself to breathe, move, eat and speak again and she did it with the help of incredible medical staff,
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her children and her husband peter, who‘s here alongside rikke. good morning, both of you. very nice to see you. good morning. i want you to see you. good morning. i want you to tell our audience what happened on that new year‘s day in 2013. to tell our audience what happened on that new year's day in 2013. we we re on that new year's day in 2013. we were out walking and suddenly i felt a chill and within half an hour i was freezing. we went back home and iran was freezing. we went back home and i ran myself a bath and i could not get warm at all. so we knew something was wrong. but we still just thought it was the flu, or severe flu symptoms. so it got worse and worse during the evening and peter called the night shift doctor and he came out in the middle of the night and said it was the flu, even
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though i could not sit up, i could not do anything, i could not hold myself together at all. so in the morning peter called our own doctor and he rushed up because he could sense that this was severe. when he rushed into the house i was already in cramps, so going into a coma. the ambulance came and went the ambulance came and went the ambulance came and the people put me in the ambulance i flat lined. you died? i was what you would call clinically dead. and you described that in the book that you have written. what is it like being dead? tell our audience. i have never been able to ask that question of anybody before, let alone hear the answer. to me it was all black, nothing, there was absolutely nothing. so what i experienced was that i have
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no memory of that time. so what i experienced was it is over, there is nothing, it is the end. i know there area nothing, it is the end. i know there are a lot of people who experience different things and i respect that. ican different things and i respect that. i can only say how i experienced it. you were in a coma and it was pretty catastrophic. peter, you were there obviously and presumably you thought your wife was about to die? yes, when you are living through what you do not even know is your worst nightmare it all comes as a shock. and, yes, everything happened so quickly. within 12 hours everything changed. you have a healthy wife, the mother of your children running around doing all the things she usually does, and very active woman, and the next thing you know she is
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there and fighting for her life. that happens very rapidly and yet it's sort of happens in slow motion so it's sort of happens in slow motion so you it's sort of happens in slow motion so you are it's sort of happens in slow motion so you are watching experiences and you see the person you love die, you see the process of dying, and you bring your children in even though you cannot come to terms with what is happening. you have to be there for the children and explaining the unexplainable. none of us could come to terms with it. everybody thought she was dying. when you have the doctor giving you the message that your wife is not going to survive and the intensive care unit doctor starts to cry, she is not carrying good news. and having to deal with that situations and to be there for the children and do whatever you can to at least keep hoping that somehow, miraculously perhaps, there
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would be something to bring your wife, the mother of your children, back to life. you did and you are emerged from the coma after 12 days. describe what that was like. as i write in the book it is not like you wa ke write in the book it is not like you wake up and ask yourself where am i? what happened ? wake up and ask yourself where am i? what happened? you wake up very slowly. it took about a week for me to wa ke slowly. it took about a week for me to wake up fully. during that week i started to open my eyes just a little bit. i had what doctors would call the sunsets gaze and when you have that the chances of being severely brain is high. so i woke up very slowly and in the beginning it was only maybe 20 seconds and minutes. and then i dozed off again for several hours. when did you
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realise you could not speak, you could not move? after about a week i was conscious of that, after a week 01’ so. was conscious of that, after a week or so. so you could hear people discussing new and topping?|j or so. so you could hear people discussing new and topping? i could hear people, absolutely, but it was a glimpse. i cannot put it in our context. when you wake up from a coma like that you are just in the present. you do not know what happened before and you are not concerned about what is going to happen because you do not have the strength. you just want to survive and you are just strength. you just want to survive and you arejust in strength. you just want to survive and you are just in the present. and thatis and you are just in the present. and that is when you thought you should tell her what had happened and you have to keep repeating that information because you could not remember, you had no idea. when you realised you could not communicate, what is that like? it is terrifying
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because you are just lying there com pletely because you are just lying there completely locked and you cannot move, you cannot speak, it‘s you could barely breathe. i had a ventilator on for the first one and the half months. you can do absolutely nothing. humans are social animals, we spent most of our time communicating. when you cannot do that there is not much left really. just lying there is absolutely terrifying. you saw her blink at a particular point and then you thought, oh, my goodness, she is communicating with me. it is the only way she knows how and that is what she is doing. tell us about that. that was an extraordinary experience. as she was saying, she had sunsets gaze and initially we we re had sunsets gaze and initially we were so had sunsets gaze and initially we were so excited about that. we
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thought, maybe she is in there, but thenit thought, maybe she is in there, but then it turned into this terrifying thing of thinking that she would never be with us, her brain is so severely damaged that she will never be able to communicate and her eyes look completely dead. you do not know what that means until you look into completely dead eyes. then one day there was a tiny spark, it is very difficult to describe, but something had changed in her eyes andl something had changed in her eyes and i had brought one of her close friends and we were standing next to her bed talking and all the sudden there was a flicker, something in her eyes moved ever so slightly. i asked her a question. her eyes moved ever so slightly. i asked hera question. rikke, do you hear me? and she blinked. do you understand what i'm saying? and she blinked again. then i knew she was there. that is a breakthrough. it was, the most wonderful moment.
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there. that is a breakthrough. it was, the most wonderful momentlj there. that is a breakthrough. it was, the most wonderful moment. i am going to gallop through much of the book now. what you have described to what you see now could not be more different. you have lost the ends of some of yourfingers different. you have lost the ends of some of your fingers and you are co mforta ble some of your fingers and you are comfortable with the camera showing that. when your body shut down in that. when your body shut down in that catastrophic first few days they started to die effectively. how have you managed to recover to this level? yes... and look at the smile on yourface, it is level? yes... and look at the smile on your face, it is extraordinary. through will, hope and peter. those things have carried me through. when i could not carry my own hope, peter did it for me. it is so important to have somebody close to you who can do that for you because you are not able to do it by yourself all the time. but i am also a fighter and i
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have been my entire life. that is one of the things that carried me through. to be clear to our audience, you had to learn how to breed on your own because a ventilator was keeping you alive. you had to learn to speak again. what was the first you said? you had to learn to speak again. what was the first you said ?m you had to learn to speak again. what was the first you said? it was weird. and to learn to walk again. i wonder what you have learned about yourself, your family, about wonder what you have learned about yourself, yourfamily, about medical professional is through your experience? i have learned that everyday matters and that is really important. and i have learned to live your life to the fullest. if you want to do something, do it. and i think you want to do something, do it. and ithinki you want to do something, do it. and i think i have received a gift. and
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when you receive a gift like this i think you need to give something back. so that is what i have dedicated my life to know, giving something back. people may not understand you saying i have received a gift. i have received a gift in that i am sitting here and i am able to speak, walk, everything. because the odds were really poor. soi because the odds were really poor. so i have received that gift. i need to use that gift to give something back to as many people as possible, a positive giving back. when you talk about giving something back, thatis talk about giving something back, that is imparting something about what you experienced as a patient, what you experienced as a patient, what you experienced as a patient, what you were aware of as a patient, and because of your background as a scientist how you can help in the future? exactly. one of the reasons
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i have written this book is it is so rare that people survive this and it is even more rare that people survive this and it is even more rare rare that people survive this and it is even more rare that you come out of it with your brain intact. the doctors and nurses asked me, can you please tell us how it was and what we should do differently if anything? peter and i talked about it and thought why not write a book about it? many more people can have advantage of this. your children are amazing and the youngest son when you did get home and you were looking at your fingers and you were down about it and you were upset at the sink tried to wash up and your eight—year—old said, mummy, you have got beautiful fingers. there eight—year—old said, mummy, you have got beautifulfingers. there is something about children who in very distressing times just find the right words. and the book is out on
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thursday. so far, the uk is the only country which has voted to withdraw from the eu. but could we soon have company? italy is facing fresh political turmoil, with the strong possibility of another election being held within a matter of months. it‘s thought that election will effectively be an unofficial referendum on italy‘s place in the eu. james reynolds is in rome for us. why has italian politics been hitting the headlines here over the past couple of days? there was a general election in march and two populist parties between them got a majority and they wa nted between them got a majority and they wanted to put together a government. in that government they suggested a finance minister who was eurosceptic and who wanted to leave the eu. the president said that was not a cce pta ble president said that was not acceptable and he asked for a new
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line—up and that has caused the crisis and there will be new elections in september. why are people saying could italy be joining britain? the next election is a referendum on leaving the eu? unofficially, yes. when the president rejected the populist party‘s line—up, saying they could not have their finance minister because he suggested leaving the eu, the president issued what may become famous words, there has to be a proper, national debate about it first. that national debate is now happening and the final say will be the election in a few months for a time. it is not about italy leaving the eu, it is not about italy officially leaving the euro, but unofficially it is about italy‘s plays in the european union. james reynolds reporting from rome. still to come... women who freeze their eggs as a lifestyle choice are allowed to keep them for ten years. but women who do it for medical reasons,
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because of cancer treatment, for example, can keep them for 55 years. is that fair? should the law be changed? we‘ll talk to a tv scientist who had her eggs frozen last year, aged 38. and this footage of black men wrongfully arrested in starbucks after using the loo and not buying anything has led to starbucks closing 8,000 stores in the us so staff can have unconscious bias training. time for the latest news. here‘sjoanna. medical staff who treated sergei and yulia skripal after they were poisoned in salisbury have told the bbc they didn‘t expect them to survive. they also revealed that at first they were unaware the former russian spy and his daughter were the victims of nerve agent poisoning. 0ne doctor described the situation as beyond his wildest imagination. excellent teamwork by the doctors, fantastic care and dedication by our nurses, and i guess supported
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and supplemented a great deal by some input from really, really well—informed international experts, which very fortunately some of whom happened to be on our doorstep at porton down. one in 25 primary school children in england aged between ten and 11 is severely obese — the most overweight on the scale. the local government association has analysed data released by public health england earlier this year. it says child obesity is contributing to a multi—billion pound ill—health time bomb. the department of health says the sugar tax is funding schools sports programmes and breakfasts for the poorest children — and the government is investing in further research. the man asked to become italy‘s caretaker prime minister is trying to put together a government. carlo cottarelli — a former director at the international monetary fund — has promised to run a neutral administration until fresh elections can be held. however, the two main parties, which had been
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expected to be in power — the five star movement and the league — are expected to block any programme he submits to parliament. the political crisis in italy is putting pressure on european financial markets. the online streaming site youtube has deleted more than 30 videos which police say are responsible for inciting a surge in violent crime across london. it comes after the metropolitan police commissioner cressida dick cited so—called drill music as a weapon being used by gangs to taunt each other on social media. youtube said it was working with authorities to take action on gang—related content. that‘s a summary of the latest bbc news. here‘s some sport now with damien. less than three weeks to go until the world cup, and there‘s controversy surrounding england‘s raheem sterling. he‘s been criticised by anti—gun camaigners for having this tattoo of an assault rifle but sterling says it has a deeper meaning
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and refers to his late father. michael vaughan says stuart broad orjames anderson should be dropped for the second test against pakistan which starts at headingley on friday after a humiliating nine—wicket defeat in the first test. defeat in the first test. liverpool have confirmed the signing of brazillian midfielder fabinho from monaco for a fee believed to be in the region of £40 million. britain‘s heather watson is into the second round of the french open after an encouraging straight sets victory over 0ceane dodin at roland garros that‘s all the sport for now. the festival season has just got under way and whilst thousands of young people enjoyed themselves over the bank holiday weekend, sadly, two people died after taking ecstasy at the mutiny festival in portsmouth. the deaths of 20—year—old tommy cowan and 18—year—old georgia jones have raised the question of whether more should be done to help people learn more about the drugs they are taking. some british music festivals have started to offer pill testing on site. back in 2016, we took a sample of drugs to be tested to find out about what they contained
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and whether they were getting stronger. two weeks have passed since the festival, and leslie‘s pill test is finished. i‘ve come to tictac drug identification in london to meet trevor shine for the results. so we gave you a pill to test, can you tell me what you found it? yours had 233 mg of mdma in it, and if you go back, traditionally, an average dose in an ecstasy tablet would have been somewhere between 85—115 milligrams, so the one you brought in is considerably higher than that. and for someone to be taking maybe two or three of these in one evening, i mean, that is close to a one gram of mdma. it‘s a lot of mdma to have in your system. so leslie‘s pill was as strong as he thought it was. trevor says it‘s incredibly rare for a user to know the exact dosage like this.
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so we know that stephanie shevlin, who died just a few weeks ago from an mdma overdose, was taking this drug — the pink lego man. but we also know that leslie was taking a very powerful dose of mdma and he hasn‘t had any negative side effects. well, i think that illustrates very well the lottery of taking unregulated, illegal drugs. there are a lot of reasons these drugs affect people differently. trevor says mdma has had a definite resurgence this year, with a greater variety of shapes and colours. we now talk to professor adam winstock — consultant psychiatrist and founder of the global drugs survey. and dr henry fisher — clinical lead and senior chemist for the loop
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who are carrying out the tests at festivals. we are hoping also shortly to talk to mosca burns, the mother ofjoana who died last year. he began that just take half campaign. it was based on the finding that over the last four, five years, mdma has come back and increasingly pill manufacturers trying to get a foot fault in the market have been putting more mdma in tablets —— footholds. people sometimes mistake more of a drug for a more enjoyable experience but that is not the case. pills with 200, 300 experience but that is not the case. pills with 200,300 mg, our advice is start with half or sometimes even a quarter in orderfor you to figure out how you respond to that particular drug at that particular
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dose. why are you saying start with a half, quarter at all? why are you saying that? if you want to reduce your risk to zero, of course taking a lower dose does not reduce the risk to zero, it probably makes it less, for people familiar with the effects of mdma, they can probably tell whether the drug effect by taking a smaller amount is familiar. taking a smaller dose also leads to people having less unwanted effects like feeling very hot and sweaty, very agitated and anxious, but you are absolutely right, taking a small dose, while it reduces the risk, it does not reduce the risk to zero and nothing that the global drugs survey or the loop does, it does not advocate people taking drugs, we simply accept it is enjoyed by many people and the risk can be reduced
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if people take into account their own behaviour and have better education, that is what we want to provide. henry, the parents, the mother of the young woman who died at the weekend and the father of the young man said, we acknowledge there is no point as saying do not take drugs, but what they did say was we really wa nt drugs, but what they did say was we really want people to take on board what has happened to our young people, isn‘t that the right approach? absolutely. that is what we say as well. the only way to completely eliminate the risk from drug use is not to take them at all, but the whole point of our service and as adam was saying, to acknowledge the fact that if someone has smuggle drugs into a festival or bought them on site, their 100% planning on taking them, so you have to say at that point, what can we do? what evidence is there to show how we can reduce the risk and speak to the people at the event to make them less likely to encounter harm?
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tell people who are not aware of it, we have talked about on the programme before, what is it you offer? it is not across all music festivals ? offer? it is not across all music festivals? we have only been in operation offering this testing service for the last three years, in 2016, we were at two festivals, last year, three, this year we hope to be at six festivals. the way it works is we operate a tent where festival goers karen come “— is we operate a tent where festival goers karen come —— festivalgoers come and drop off a small sample of the drugs in their possession and the drugs in their possession and the sample gets passed to the lab which is staffed by a team of trained chemists. on-site. we analyse it for its identity, purity and strength, if it is an ecstasy pill. we can indicate the results of the tests back to the service users with a team of experienced drug
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workers and health care professionals as part of a 15 workers and health care professionals as part ofa 1515 minute —— 15 minute counselling session and sensible harm reduction measures like making sure they are hydrated, taking care of friends, and things to keep them safer. have you kept a record of those conversations, in terms of how many say, i will not take it? yes, we have. at the festival we were operating at last weekend, 13% of people came and used the service, they handed over the rest of their drugs. a further 50% of the people who use the service chose or said they would take less than they had planned on taking. reducing their intake. we can now talk to mosca burns. her daughter died last year after taking ecstasy to celebrate finishing paid university exams.
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thank you for being patient. we appreciate your time —— celebrate finishing her university exams. when you hear about the deaths of more young people from taking ecstasy, what do you think? first of all, my heart goes out to their families and to their friends and i feel really helpless because i cannot stop that from happening. part of the reason why i have come here today. to tell people what? really, i... ithink that there is no way of ruling out a risk of harm when taking ecstasy or mdma. i do agree with testing to some extent but you cannot rule out the risk completely. injoana‘s
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situation, she did not take more than... she did not take a large quantity of it and there was nothing in there that would have caused her harm, other than the mdma, so... in there that would have caused her harm, otherthan the mdma, so... i do not think you can‘t rule out the risk. the only way to rule out the risk. the only way to rule out the risk completely is by not taking it. was it the first time, do you know, thatjoana was it the first time, do you know, that joana had was it the first time, do you know, thatjoana had taken ecstasy or not? no, it wasn‘t. in the coroner‘s inquest in may, we discovered she had had it two, three times before and she had not had any adverse reaction to it, so it goes along with what i have said, it could be 0k one time and then the next time not ok. and when it is not ok, and it leads to death, it is
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devastating, absolutely devastating. what do you say to people who suggest that the idea that... like the loop are doing, testing of drugs at festivals, it normalises it? it does, to an extent, and it also can reduce risk. i do not want to say not to test it because there could be harmful substances in that and anything that reduces risk is good. but i think it is fairly normalised across a broad spectrum of society anyway, so that is not going to change unfortunately. thank you very much for coming on the programme, we appreciate it, mosca burns. thank you for your time, dr adam winstock,
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founder of global drugs survey, and dr henry fisher, founder of the loop, carrying out testing of drugs that certain music festivals. let me read you some messages from you watching the interview with rikke, describing her experience of being ina coma describing her experience of being in a coma and waking up with her body locked in, this tweet, wow, i must read this amazing book, what an incredible, terrifying and wonderful experience, and as she says, so rare to live to tell us all about it. harry e—mails, watching your programme as usual while waiting for the kitchen installers, i was astonished with your interview with rikke and peter, heart warming, whole new meaning to out of body experience, and this tweet, well done to you, rikke, so happy you have recovered through your determination to survive and heal, best wishes to you. coming up... one
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in 25 children in england aged ten or 11 is severely obese. severely obese. is the setting up for a lifetime of health problems? thank you for your messages, we appreciate it, if you have pertinent experience. david says many schools are taking pe of the curriculum at ages ten and 11 in order to do maths and other subjects because targets have to be met. now with academies able to set their own rules, some have won power and some have none. it is sad and frustrating. i have made it myjob to educate children with nutrition classes. i have also made it myjob that children only see me eating the right things. this
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helps because children copy my eating habits. i do not have any issues with children participating in pe asi issues with children participating in pe as i do not allow them a choice, pe is a lesson like any other and should be taken seriously. however, i do feel a nutrition class should be a mandatory lesson. thank you so much for those, keep them coming in. do get in touch with your comments, especially if you‘re a parent of a child who‘s been classified as obese. if you‘re healthy, but have decided to freeze your eggs, so you can have a baby later in life, the eggs will be stored for ten years and then disposed of. but is this fair? should they be stored for longer? leading fertility doctors and scientists say a decade is too short a period of time and the limit on storing eggs should be changed. by contrast, those who store their eggs because they have a medical problem that may harm their fertility can keep them frozen for 55 years.
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let‘s talk to professor geeta nargund, the medical director at create fertility, one of europe‘s biggest fertility clinics which treats both nhs and private patients. she is backing the campaign to change the law. emily grossman, a tv scientist who had her eggs frozen there last year aged 38, and claire fenelon, who has a baby but the time limit on her remaining eggs will run out next year and is deciding whether to have another child. you might have to explain briefly how the process works. basically women have a consultation to understand the process and the risks involved and the success rate and the cost involved, because it is not
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funded by the nhs unless it is for medical reasons like cancer. then they have to undergo stimulation injections for anywhere around ten days up to two weeks and they have to have an egg collection procedure, an outpatient procedure. the eggs are an outpatient procedure. the eggs a re collected an outpatient procedure. the eggs are collected and checked for maturity and are frozen using a fast freezing method which has been the game—changing for success because it has increased the success rate significantly compared to previous slow freezing methods. literally about two weeks they need to make an informed decision about the success and risks. how much does it cost? it depends on where you go, but it can be anywhere between £3500 up to £5,000. why did you choose to freeze your eggs last year? i got to my mid—30s and the panic about would i
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be able to have kids started to set in. whenl be able to have kids started to set in. when i got to the age of 38 and icame in. when i got to the age of 38 and i came out of a relationship and i was not in a position to have children naturally and i did not wa nt children naturally and i did not want to do it on my own and i noticed friends in their early 40s finding it hard to conceive and it was devastating for them. friends of my age and below panicked and rushed into relationships and rushed into having kids before they were ready and ending up possibly being single parents, not that there is anything wrong with that, but it is not what i want to do. i thought i think i wa nt i want to do. i thought i think i want to have kids at some point, i am not ready now, i have a great life and a great career, but i do not want to miss out on having children. i read that fertility rates half from the age of 35—40 and then even more later on and i
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thought i do not want to be in this position where i am panicking and stressing out about this. we all hear stories of people who get so stressed that they find it hard to conceive. i thought if i freeze my ex, it is not foolproof but it gives mea ex, it is not foolproof but it gives me a back—up and when the time is right andl me a back—up and when the time is right and i have a partner i will be less stressed and i will be able to do it more naturally. you were 38 when you went through this process. would you want to keep those eggs for more than ten years?” would you want to keep those eggs for more than ten years? i dearly know because i dearly i will conceive naturally and this is a back—up. but if i did get to the age of 48 and i had not got to that place, the amount of time and energy and effort and money i had put into this process, which i do not regret for a second, but if they got thrown away when i was 48 and i felt young and healthy and energetic enough to have children, my womb would still
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be able to carry them even if i was passed menopause. it would be a travesty to have them thrown away because there is an arbitrary rule that makes them get chucked away. what is the reason for the ten year rule? what is the rationale? at the time the rule was made, which was a long time ago, the risks of long—term storage were not known. also egg freezing was not a viable option at that time, said the 10—year rule was made at that time. is it based on anything? it was arbitrary. claire, introduce the little baby on your lap. this is frankie. i can see him now. he was not supposed to be in the picture, but he decided he wanted me. we love
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him, do not worry. tell our audience why you had your eggs frozen. exactly the same reason as emily stated. i was 39, i was not having much luck finding a partner to have children with and so i decided to freeze them to give myself a little bit more breathing space and time. that is what i did and ijust assumed i would go ahead and use them within the next few years, within five years really. i did not think too far ahead. is frankie a result of one of those eggs being frozen? yes. amazing. what changed in your circumstances? well, i had given myself an age limit as to when i wanted to be a mother. i did not really wa nt i wanted to be a mother. i did not really want to be older than 45. in
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the endl really want to be older than 45. in the end i was 47. i did not meet anybody and i decided it was holding me back looking for somebody so i decided to go alone. that's why i decided to go alone. that's why i decided to go alone. that's why i decided to thaw half my eggs and frankie, fortunately, was the one that worked. do you mind me asking how many eggs were put back in you? just one. ten were fertilised, but only one developed. that was frankie. unfortunately that was successful. how many do you still have frozen? 11. are you likely to use those? yes, it is the debate i am having with myself at the moment. could i cope with two on my own? but thatis could i cope with two on my own? but that is a different subject. my
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10—year deadline comes up injune next year, so i need to use them before then. for me i do not want to go through pregnancy after the age of 50. but that is my personal deadline, that is my personal limit. ido deadline, that is my personal limit. i do not think anybody should really tell anybody else what age they should be or how and when they should be or how and when they should have children. it is up to us. should have children. it is up to us. anybody can have children. that is an interesting point. there are from some people ethical questions around this. would you want a 50—year—old giving birth for example? it does not seem to happen when it comes to men and fathers, but it does around women. how do you respond? if i am 50 and i am fit and healthy and i look after my body and i feel energised and i feel i have
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the emotional and physical resources to give to a child, why would i be robbed of that opportunity because i have a clock in me that says that? i understand you do not want to have a child growing up with a parent who will pass away before they get to a certain age, but who can tell when that will happen? we are trying to tell younger women to freeze their eggs and at the age of 35 and if they have done that, they have only got until they are 42 to use them.|j am interested to how people react to you and the way frankie was conceive? i was surprised. you and the way frankie was conceive? iwas surprised. everybody has been very positive about it and very encouraging. i have not felt any different to any other mothers who i have met along the way. i think i may have met one person who has not approved if you like, but thatis has not approved if you like, but that is maybe a different generation. there are all kinds of
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ways families are brought up and even in the traditional form it can be quite dysfunctional. frankie lives in a household where he gets a lot of attention, he is loved very much and he has a wider family. the general thing is interested really, people are interested in how it has happened and pleased for me that i have been able to do it after searching for so many years. thank you for coming on the programme, claire and emily. let‘s see if you gain any traction with getting the law changed. and your messages about childhood obesity. we will be talking much more about it after ten o‘clock. if you have got personal experience, get in touch. if you are a primary school teacher we would love to talk to you. sheila says, my own experience with my eldest son they give another view. despite a
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healthy diet and plenty of exercise in the form of football, swimming, tennis and judo, my son was overweight during the ages of 8—13. however, he grew six inches, lost loads of weight and became slim. it is not always about poor diet and lack of exercise. kelly says my daughter‘s school does pete weekley and does a school mile every few weeks. i took for walk yesterday and it was fun. i have been large all my life and i do not want my daughter to do the same thing. coming up drill music — a very violent style of hip hop — is being blamed forfuelling murders and gang crime in london — the country‘s most senior police officer asked youtube to remove videos like this one — now youtube have responded; we‘ll bring you the story. let‘s get the latest weather update — with carol todayis
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today is a day of mixed fortunes once again. yesterday scotland and northern ireland had the warmest day of the year so far. to make it the warmest day across the uk it would have had to have been 29.1. that is not on the cards, but today scotland and northern ireland will have the lion‘s share of sunshine. blue skies from the word go. but we have a lot of cloud coming from the north sea. for the rest of the week it will stay warm with the risk of thundery downpours. the best of the sunshine for the next few days will be in scotla nd for the next few days will be in scotland and northern ireland. you can see where we have got cloud this morning. this has been producing some rain. it will become more showery through the course of the morning. further showers will develop. some of them will be
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thundery, but they will be hit and miss. meanwhile, the cloud retreat back to the north sea coastline. there is an onshore breeze and it will feel cooler with temperatures between 13—16. but for the rest of the uk it will be a fine and a warm day and the highest temperatures likely in scotland and northern ireland, particularly in the north west of scotland where we could reach 25 or 26. still a lot of early evening sunshine to look forward to. the showers fade away and cloud once again comes in from the north sea, spreading across much of the uk. at the same time we import thundery showers from the near continent and some of those could be heavy and it will not be a cold night. generally 11-12, but will not be a cold night. generally 11—12, but locally we are looking at 14 as become further south. it will
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feel quite muggy. we start tomorrow with all this cloud and this thundery plume moving across our shores. more showers tomorrow in north wales, the north midlands and northern england. for much of england and wales it will be fairly cloudy during the course of the day, maybe brightening up in the fire south—east later. scotland and northern ireland hang on to the sunny skies. maybe 23 or 24 to look forward to. hello, it‘s tuesday, it‘s 10 o‘clock, i‘m victoria derbyshire. the medical staff who treated sergei and yulia skripal after the salisbury nerve agent attack didn‘t expect the pair to survive. they‘ve been speaking to the bbc about what their care involved. excellent teamwork by the doctors. fantastic care and dedication by our nurses, and supported and supplemented a great deal by some input from really, really well—informed international experts. more than 22,000 children
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in their final year of primary school are now "severely obese". what‘s behind it, and what problems will they face in the future? this is the tip of an iceberg. we have large numbers who are overweight and if we don‘t do something to tackle the crisis of obesity in children, it will become worse as we have more adults whose lives are shortened through a whole host of diseases. do get in touch if you‘re a parent of a child who was or has been classified as obese. we‘ll be discussing itjust after 10. and an update on a story we first brought you several years ago — a british father of three kidnapped by ethiopian authorities and put on death row who is expected to be released today. we will talk to his very happy
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partner and children in the next few minutes. look at their happy smiles. good morning. here‘s joanna gosling in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today‘s news. medical staff who treated sergei and yulia skripal after they were poisoned in salisbury have told the bbc they didn‘t expect them to survive. they also revealed that at first they were unaware the former russian spy and his daughter were the victims of nerve agent poisoning. 0ne doctor described the situation as beyond his wildest imagination. excellent teamwork by the doctors, fantastic care and dedication by our nurses and i guess, supported and supplemented a great deal as some input from really, really well informed international experts. it‘s very fortunate some of whom happened to be on our doorstep at porton down. one in 25 primary school children in england aged between ten and 11 is severely obese — the most overweight on the scale. the local government association has
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analysed data released by public health england earlier this year. it says child obesity is contributing to a "multi—billion pound ill—health time bomb". the department of health says the sugar tax is funding schools sports programmes and breakfasts for the poorest children, and the government is investing in further research. the man asked to become italy‘s caretaker prime minister is trying to put together a government. carlo cottarelli — a former director at the international monetary fund — has promised to run a neutral administration until fresh elections can be held. however, the two main parties which had been expected to be in power — the five star movement and the league — are expected to block any programme he submits to parliament. the political crisis in italy is putting pressure on european financial markets. the online streaming site youtube has deleted more than 30 videos which police say are responsible for inciting a surge in violent crime across london. it comes after the metropolitan police commissioner cressida dick cited so—called "drill music" as a weapon being used by gangs to taunt each other on social media.
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youtube said it was working with authorities to take action on gang—related content. coffee chain starbucks is closing all 8,000 of its shops in the united states today to teach staff how to avoid discriminating against customers. the training follows the wrongful arrest of two black men in a branch in philadelphia last month. 175,000 employees will spend four hours learning about unconscious bias and racism in public places. one of north korea‘s most senior officials is reported to be on his way to the united states as both countries finalise plans for a possible meeting between president trump and the north‘s leader kim jong—un. the chances of a summit on 12thjune were thought to be over last week after the us president called off the meeting — citing the north‘s "hostility". both sides have since been working to get the planned meeting in singapore back on track. police in north yorkshire stopped a
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stolen golf buggy as it was seen going through a drive—through restau ra nt. going through a drive—through restaurant. a 19—year—old man was arrested on suspicion of theft and driving while unfit through drink. a police spokesperson said it was the most unusualjob of the night and said they managed to avoid a high—speed pursuit. that is the latest bbc news. children are gaining weight at a drastic rate as they go through school, according to new figures for england. more than 22,000 children in their final year of primary school are now "severely obese". if you are the parent of an obese
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child and you would be happy to talk to us, do get in touch. you can message us on to us, do get in touch. you can message us on twitter, use the hashtag victoria live and you can text as well. if you are happy for us text as well. if you are happy for us to get you on the programme, do let us know because we would like to talk to you. there are a lot of misconceptions about overweight children, as you know so it would be interesting to hear from you. i am just going to bring you this breaking news. it is from belgium. it is reported that two police officers have been killed after a shooting. according to the public broadcaster, the attacker has been neutralised. that can mean a number of things but that is the word that is being used at the moment. we can tell you that two belgian police officers are dead after a shooting in liege. we will bring you more details as soon as we have them. in
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the meantime, the sport and damien is back with us. good morning. there is back with us. good morning. there is always some controversy ahead of football tournaments. this time it is about raheem sterling. he has a tattoo of an assault rifle on his leg which has angered anti—gun campaigners. lucy cope told the sun newspaper that he should cover the tattoo up or be banned from the england team. raheem sterling defended the image saying when i was two my father died from being gunned down and i made a promise that i would never touch a gun in my lifetime. i shoot with my right foot and it has a deeper meaning and it is still unfinished. lots of reaction, as you would expect. plenty of people have come out in support including the match of the
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day presenter gary lineker. he said the criticism of raheem sterling was disgusting and said it is another attempt to destroy our players‘ morale before a major tournament. it is weird, an patriotic and sad, he said. liverpool have made the first big—money signing of the summer, wasting no time. they have signed the beanie. —— fabinio. mo salah will travel to portugal for surgery on mo salah will travel to portugal for surgery on his shoulder. the potential sale of wembley stadium will be discussed at an fa meeting today. the ruling council will consider a bid, thought to be in the region of £600 million, made by the fulham owner. the meeting is to gauge the level of support for a
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sale from within the game but no final decision will be made today. tributes are being paid to the former aberdeen player neil cooper. he was a member of the aberdeen side which won the cup in 1983. more recently he managed hartlepool, gillian and peterhead. —— gillingham. the former england captain michael vaughan is calling for a major shake—up of the team before friday‘s second test against pakistan at headingley. he wants a neil broad orjimmy anderson to be dropped after the defeat in the first test. england have not been winning. the keep going with the same old every week? this is a thinking tank that i hope people within the team, would it make a little difference? you never know. are they winning with them at the
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minute? are they as good as there we re minute? are they as good as there were three orfour minute? are they as good as there were three or four years ago? no. minute? are they as good as there were three orfour years ago? no. i wa nt to were three orfour years ago? no. i want to see more mentality and how to play test match cricket and it might trigger the team into thinking none of us are safe. the thoughts of michael vaughan. i will be back with more sports news later. thank you. now an update on a story we‘ve been covering for the last few years. in 2014 a british father—of—three was kidnapped by the ethiopian authorities at an airport in yemen and put on death row where he‘s been ever since. but over the weekend it was announced that, afterfour years, andy tsege had been pardoned and he‘s expected to be released today. his family are here. we spoke to his partner three years ago and this is what she told us. it‘s really, really challenging,
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especially as the time goes on, you know, like we have three children, one is 15, the others are twins, eight—year—old. the biggest challenge is trying to keep hope alive, and trying to tell them that this is something that is going to be resolved. i mean, a very recent incidents that i can recount to you is the ambassador, the uk ambassador is currently here in the uk, and i was thinking of sending some letters through him, and i asked them to write letters to their dad. and i think that is one of the biggest errors that i think that i did, because i was trying to... i thought i was try to do something very positive, there‘s more of a guarantee that it might be delivered, and they were just in pieces, and theyjust couldn‘t finish any of the letters, especially my daughter. and i kind of regretted asking them, and it‘s really very, very difficult. effectively, we are also in prison, so it‘s very, very difficult to keep a semblance of hope and stay strong for the children. well, yemi, is back with us under
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very different circumstances. alongside her and andy‘s twins — who are now 11 — yilak and menabe. also here is maya foa, the director of the organisation reprieve, which has been working with andy tsege and his family. welcome. how are you feeling?” welcome. how are you feeling? i am a little bit teary when i saw that clip. absolutely ecstatic. ecstatic ina word clip. absolutely ecstatic. ecstatic in a word and full of anticipation, to actually hear his voice. we have not here heard it for the last four yea rs. not here heard it for the last four years. that is remarkable. did you in your heart of hearts, did you expect to see him again?” in your heart of hearts, did you expect to see him again? i did. you have got to have that kind of hope,
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but it was becoming challenging to try to find a way and how you can. but yes, i did. and why might it be today? what news have you had? the chief of staff of the ethiopian prime minister has tweeted that he will be released today. the foreign 0ffice will be released today. the foreign office is trying to confirm his release. that is where we are right now as things stand. how are you two feeling about this? happy. when did you get the news? saturday. he came up you get the news? saturday. he came up to me and he was like, i have got really good news. we were not supposed to know because he listened to our mum's conversation on the phone and we were going to find out later because it wasn't official so mum did not want to tell us to get our hopes up. but he found out and then he came up and told me. we were really surprised but we were so happy. could you believe it? i don't
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think i did at first. when you think of your dad, what image comes into your head because you have not seen him or spoken to him for four years? ido him or spoken to him for four years? i do truly know because there is a picture that is up in our house that is right near the doorway and it is the only thing i remember to be honest when i think of him now. what about you ? honest when i think of him now. what about you? i remember us in exmouth market when we're all together, when we took that photo. how much have you missed him? a lot. very, very, very much. what about you? i don't think i can explain how much i have missed him. what will be the first thing you say when you see him? that i love thing you say when you see him? that ilove him. thing you say when you see him? that i love him. what about you? are you
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0k? i love him. what about you? are you ok? i have absolutely no idea how he has been. i am sure it has not been easy. just to see how he is actually. tell our audience, remind them, why you believe he was abducted at an airport and why he has been pardoned. this story started when he was living in london with his family in 2011 and he was sentenced to death in absentia without any due process for his political beliefs, for his pro—democracy activism. then he was travelling to work and he was kidnapped at the airport. the first we lowered the case is when they came in to see us in the office four yea rs came in to see us in the office four years ago. over the last four years we have been campaigning with this
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incredible family to try to get him released from unlawful detention. this is a man who was unlawfully sentenced to death, unlawfully kidnapped and rendered and has been held unlawfully for four years away from his family. i think it is a really positive sign that he has been pardoned. it is a positive sign for ethiopia and is positive in terms of the brits and what they have been doing to try to get him out and we are delighted. why did you just pick up your sister‘s hand? because i am so excited to see my dad. i cannot wait to see him. do you know why he has been pardoned? since january there has been a prime ministerial change and they announced they would be pardoning political prisoners, but they did not have a definitive list and nothing that backed up the
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statements. but slowly they have been releasing a huge number of prisoners. then we were wondering. so it has been a long four months and finally now it has happened that he is one of the last to come out. what is your view of the british authorities and the help they were able to give or not? fundamentally what i believe is they never really took into account the merits of the case. he was kidnapped at an international airport, illegally taken from one country to another and has been in prison where there was no legal redress for him. said the uk government said they do not interfere in other countries‘ legal systems, that is their stance. for
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them to take that stance they would have had to have been a legal process and in this case there was not. it was a very farcical and circular argument. i think the uk approach is this, it is a one size fits all policy when it comes to consular and british nationals and supporting them and i think that is what it was. now, saying that, once this opportunity presented itself, the ambassador in ethiopia and the staff here in the foreign office we re staff here in the foreign office were exceptional to take advantage of this opportunity. but that is three and a half years later, so we have to make a note of that. you used the word challenging, which is potentially an understatement i am guessing. can you describe what it has been like knowing that your partner, the father of your children, has been abducted, has been sentenced to death in another
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country and is injail and you are not able to have any conversation with him. exactly and that is the biggest challenge. initially you are very helpless and then you have organisations like reprieve and my mp and they have been amazing. but even with all those forces behind you you start exhausting all the avenues in which you think you can solve it. as that list gets smaller and smaller, it becomes hugely challenging. you are also effectively really in prison because you cannot escape the problem and you cannot escape the problem and you should not escape the problem because you have got to get him out, you are his only hope. but it is all consuming? it is, it is all
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consuming. at the same time you have children and i also work, so it was challenging. when could he be back in the country? we hear that today may be the day that he is released. he could be back immediately. i suspect he will spend a couple of daysin suspect he will spend a couple of days in ethiopia before he comes back, but we are hoping to see him very back, but we are hoping to see him very soon. back, but we are hoping to see him very soon. i know these guys have got plans for chess games and matches and various things. got plans for chess games and matches and various thingsm got plans for chess games and matches and various things. it is not often we are able to report some amazing news on this programme, but this is it. although we do not know how he is and what the conditions have been in the last four years, but you will be getting him home after the expected release today. if he feels 0k we would really like him on the programme this week or next week. you know that. thank you. thank you so much. still to come...
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youtube takes down some violent drill music videos — blamed by the met for being partly responsible for the surge in murders in london. we‘ll bring you the story. we have talked a little bit this morning about children gaining weight at a drastic rate as they go through school, according new figures today. more than 22,000 children in their final year of primary school are now "severely obese". this is the first time the national child measurement programme data has included the "severely obese" category. the local government association says urgent action is needed. the government says though its childhood obesity plan is "comprehensive". according to the report: one in 25 children in england aged 10 or 11 leaving primary school are severely obese. for children in reception, aged four orfive — about1 in 40 was classed as severely obese. 1 in 3 of all children leaving primary school are overweight.
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obesity in children is measured differently from adults. a bmi of more than 40 means adults are severely obese, but in children it is based on reference growth charts for boys and girls which looks at height and weight. let‘s talk to michael payne from the local government association who is in our stoke newsroom. tam fry is from the national 0besity forum. katharine tate, who‘s known as the food teacher, is a nutritional consultant who‘s worked in schools. dan mullany who is a primary school pe teacher. the conservative mp andrew selous who sits on the house of commons health select committee member. we did try to speak to a government minister, but nobody was available. iam going i am going to start with and who is a primary school teacher in birmingham. tell us why you think
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22,000 children are leaving primary school severely obese. ok, well, i feel that there is not enough done by the government. we have these programmes, we have a change for like programme implemented into the class. it is not always the case people will turn up to them, so it is down to the teacher to do their best to get the children to come, but the parents have to as well. that child will not take the advice on—board that child will not take the advice on—boa rd unless the that child will not take the advice on—board unless the parents can instil that information into them as well. they are dead children, said they will listen to adults‘ advice. are you saying it is poorjudgment from parents effectively? no, not necessarily. the parents have not had this knowledge either, so they need to make sure that it starts
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from now and go on into the future. it has been happening for a long time, it is not something that has just started now. it needs to gradually be increased, the level of knowledge within the parents to get through to the children. we are going to talk to a parent, sally, who is worried about her nine—year—old son. how are you?” who is worried about her nine-year-old son. how are you? i am fine thank you. tell us about your little boy and why you are worried. lam little boy and why you are worried. i am worried about him because he is nine years old now and has been overweight for the past five years. when he was really little we were concerned because he was underweight and he did not eat at all, but then he came to a certain age and he has only been a fussy eater and there we re only been a fussy eater and there were only certain things that he would eat and we let him, but now he
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has become overweight. is he doing much running around or not? he is more on technology most of the day. a month ago we bought him a trampoline to get outside. he has a lot of friends and because of technology they are secluded and he stays on his own because he does not have a lot of friends. but we have tried with other things and he does not want to do it. has he got his own phone or tablet? no, he will not be allowed a phone until he goes to secondary school, but he has got his own laptop. you might have to restrict that or get rid of it. we only give him an hour or so a day, but when he comes back from school thatis but when he comes back from school that is when he goes on for an hour and he does not do much else.”
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that is when he goes on for an hour and he does not do much else. i am bringing in catherine, the food teacher, or and what would your advice be to sally? i would say that you need to engage him in the kitchen. i have worked with a lot of schools and children and by getting them involved in food preparation, a lot of those skills, chef skills, basic cutting skills, then having ownership of what goes on their plate can empower and engage children into making much more healthy choices. why does that mean they would then make healthier choices? because they are involved a bit more in the process and in that process we can educate them about these choices that are healthier and these choices that are healthier and the effects on their body. we are very aware a lot of food is not great for us, sugar is the nicotine of the 21st century. we are all aware of that and we need to engage children around that as well. sally, what do you think of that idea? is that something you could do? do you
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have the knowledge about healthy food and ingredients? first of all, i have tried to engage my son in the kitchen, he will not have it. he cannot stand most of the food that i cook. he is really fussy, so that one will not work. i have tried all sorts of things with him to take him out, to get used to different types of food and things like that. he is just stuck with the things that he likes. i want to bring in town from the national obesity forum because i suspect there are a number of pa rents suspect there are a number of parents watching who will relate to what sally is saying. it can be tough. indeed it can be tough. the real problem is the valuable thing we used to have 20 or 30 years ago was domestic science in school, food technology, and that taught children about how to prepare food and that
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was swept from the curriculum. you did not have that in primary school. a lot of states schools, secondary state schools do have food technology. they do now, but it disappeared. we are talking about nine—year—old now. disappeared. we are talking about nine-year-old now. but we had the mothers of those nine—year—olds who grew up where they were denied the knowledge and the teaching, therefore they now have to rely on processed food which is very high in fat, salt and sugar, which is bringing us to obesity. you are from the local government association, michael, and you say urgent action is needed. what do you mean? the government clearly needs to take action to reverse the cuts, the £600 million cuts that councils have seen between 2016 and 2020. we have seen the childhood obesity plan released by the government in 2016, but
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further action is needed immediately. this is a multi—billion pound time bomb in the nhs and councils want to see action to relieve that pressure and give children the best possible healthy start in life. let me bring in a conservative mp on the health select committee in the house of commons. it is partly because of your cuts according to michael that some children are leaving primary school is obese. i do not think that is fair because the committee went to amsterdam a week ago which is a city where they are bringing these overweight and obesity rates are down and they have done it without the huge budget. it has been a matter of political will and joined up matter of political will and joined up action and much greater focus in their schools than i have seen here. i have had the privilege of working with lots of councillors, they are
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wonderful people, but not many of them think bringing down rates of childhood obesity is something within their gift or something they are supposed to be doing as local councillors. that is not the view of councillors. that is not the view of councillors in amsterdam. sorry to interrupted, michael is shaking his we talk about political will. the fa ct we talk about political will. the fact is that councils are calling for powers that councils can have now to ban advertising next to schools for junk food, now to ban advertising next to schools forjunk food, to have a say over how the sugar drink taxes paid and we have not seen that political will from the government. in my own local authority we provide swimming lessons and work with takeaway is to provide healthy options so it is not true to say councils are not interested. today's severely obese children risk becoming tomorrow's
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severely obese adults and everyone has got to play their role in order to give children the best possible start in life. there is more that your government could be doing according to michael payne?” your government could be doing according to michael payne? i agree with planning powers, that is something i would like to see the government give local authorities, but local councils, i think they need to go and look at what is happening in amsterdam...” need to go and look at what is happening in amsterdam... i am sorry to interrupter. can i ascertain, do you think the government bears any responsibility for the fact that 22,000 primary school children are leaving school 0bes, yes or no?” think it is everyone was that responsibility and that does include the government. we have not talked about food manufacturers, we have not talked about the media, we have not talked about the media, we have not talked about the media, we have not talked about the takeaway sector or many businesses. you could regulate or change any of that.”
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absolutely think law and regulation and planning powers, the role it has of local directors and public health, they all have a role. but it is much broader than that. it is about the role of parents. we heard about the role of parents. we heard about that mum trying to engage her son within the kitchen. it is about making the healthy choice easier and cheaper for many people, making sure that healthy choices are available. if you look at the number of ta keaway if you look at the number of takeaway is near primary schools, thatis takeaway is near primary schools, that is a disgrace. and it is about working with supermarkets. the biggest supermarket in the netherlands are engaged really closely with the government in the netherlands to start bringing in healthy choices. everyone needs to play a role. a critical role for local government, but don‘t forget the food manufacturers, parents have a huge role, the media has a huge role, it is something we‘ll have to
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focus together, because otherwise, our nhs is going to be under huge pressure dealing with these problems in the future. your reaction to the fa ct in the future. your reaction to the fact that 22,000 primary school in england are severely obese? for ten years the government has not listened to the advice of what they should be doing both in school and preschool. he is trying to make a good point. they have the powers, they could put that into operation quickly and they don't. we appreciate you all for coming on the programme. thank you for your time. still to come: the gay teacher who came out in front of his whole school last year. he wants other lg bt school last year. he wants other lgbt teachers to do the same. and
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starbucks is closing 8000 stores to provide training on how not to discriminate against customers. time for the latest news — here‘s joanna gosling. we‘re getting reports that two police officers have been shot and killed in the belgian city of liege. the gunman is then believed to have taken a woman hostage, before he was himself shot dead. the police have told the bbc that the situation is now under control and it‘s not yet known if the shooting was terrorist related. medical staff who treated sergei and yulia skripal after they were poisoned in salisbury have told the bbc they didn‘t expect them to survive. they also revealed that at first they were unaware the former russian spy and his daughter were the victims of nerve agent poisoning. 0ne doctor described the situation as beyond his wildest imagination. one in 25 primary school children in england aged between 10
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and 11 is severely obese — according to a new analysis of data released by public health england. the local government association, which carried out the study, says child obesity is contributing to a "multi—billion pound ill—health time bomb". the department of health says the sugar tax is funding schools sports programmes and breakfasts for the poorest children. the man asked to become italy‘s caretaker prime minister is trying to put together a government. carlo cotta relli — a former director at the international monetary fund — has promised to run a neutral administration until fresh elections can be held. however, the two main parties which had been expected to be in power — the five star movement and the league — are expected to block any programme he submits to parliament. the political crisis in italy is putting pressure coffee chain starbucks is closing all 8,000 of its shops in the united states today to teach staff how to avoid discriminating against customers. the training follows the wrongful arrest of two black men in a branch in philadelphia last month. 175,000 employees will spend four hours learning about unconscious bias and racism in public places. that‘s a summary of the latest bbc news.
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here‘s some sport now with damien. raheem sterling has been criticised for a tattoo of a gun but said it is linked to his late father. michael vaughan said stuart broad or james anderson should be dropped after a humiliating defeat in the first test. and kyle edmund begins his australian open test in the last half hour against an australian
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unseeded player. that is all the sport for now. youtube has deleted more than 30 videos from its site after police blamed them for increasing gang tensions and violent crime in london. metropolitan police commissioner cressida dick has blamed drill music, in particular, for glamorising gangs and requested that the videos be taken down. it‘s a controversial issue — one group of musicians has started an online petition against the video removals, arguing they are being unfairly targeted by police. last month, we spoke to some young men who had been involved in gangs about whether they thought the genre fuelled attacks. drill music is the new phenomenon in right now. it is aggressive, violent, dark, fast paced. there are a lot of people who do drill music. 99% are talking about stabbing people or shooting people.” personally don't think drill music
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is responsible for the knife crime thatis is responsible for the knife crime that is going on. there are a lot of young people who listen to it like 13—year—olds. they are looking up to these rappers and thinking, i like these. let me have a go with a knife or net me try and buy a gun. to me, it is bad. knife crime was a big thing way before drill music. i don't think it's helping solve the issue but i don't think you can attributed to drill music. chi chi izundu joins me now to talk more about this. first of all, tell our audience what is drill music. in its simplest form, it isjust is drill music. in its simplest form, it is just a form of rap music. it is kind of fast. the beat that goes under it is quite quick.
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london in particular has made its own version. it started out in chicago. it has become really popular in the uk since 2012 that effectively it is a form of rap and hip—hop. effectively it is a form of rap and hip-hop. scotland yard asked youtube to ta ke hip-hop. scotland yard asked youtube to take down some of these videos, describing them as violent and said they are responsible for fuelling they are responsible for fuelling the surge in murders in the capital. why? what can go on in the bda is?l lot of the time the guys will wear hoods and cover their faces. lot of the time the guys will wear hoods and cover theirfaces. they will be completely inconspicuous. the problem is a lot of them use street language to taunt or string accusations that other gangs there for fuelling postcode walls or calling out members of other gangs which fuels violence. the met police have asked youtube to take down 50 or 60 videos that the metropolitan police in conjunction with youtube,
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has worked specifically to cite these could cause violent acts. youtube has ta ken these could cause violent acts. youtube has taken down around 30 videos. but some of the music community are not happy? like you saw there, some ex—gang members and people in that world, they do not believe that this music is the sole reason why there is this surge in violent crime. someone said this is what grime music got the blame for when it first emerged. people do not understand it. these artists are just talking about what their daily life is like, they are not doing violent acts against each other. and a particular artist has started a petition online and it has 5000 signatures so far. thank you very much. when russian father and daughter sergei and yulia skripal were found slumped on a bench
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on the 4th of march this year, workers treating them at salisbury district hospital didn‘t initially know the reason why. last week, in herfirst public statement since the attack, 33—year—old yulia said her life had been "turned upside down". we were dealing with the unknown. how big could this get? we were expecting them not to survive. i was the sister in charge of the shift the evening that yulia and sergei were admitted. at that point, we were led to believe that they had taken an overdose, so there was no mention of nerve—agent poisoning. they were needing support with their breathing and support
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with their cardiovascular system. the first i heard about the incident was about six o‘clock on the monday morning. it was a conversation that i really could never have imagined, in my wildest imaginations, having with anyone. and, essentially, the story of a known russian spy being admitted to hospital. clearly a real situation, but feeling very, very unreal. i did have concerns, because obviously when they first came in, there was no indication of the fact that it was a nerve agent, and therefore we'd take our normal protection, when any patient comes in, but would not, at that point,
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have taken any extra precautions in terms of protecting ourselves. the symptoms would have been a range, but things such as very small pupils, profuse sweating. you can get things like diarrhoea, urinary incontinence. your muscles become profoundly weak, and this is one of the main problems that can affect how you can breathe, because the muscles to let you breathe are weak. it‘ll affect your cardiovascular system, your blood pressure, your heart rate, and it can also affect the function of your brain. you don't know the kinetics of the agent — how long it takes
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to reach its peak effect, how long it's going to last for, when things might start to improve. you know, the longer term outcomes from these things, people would simply have had no experience of. the expert advice we had outside of the hospital was very clear that the clinical decisions were ours, but we would have been foolish not to take their advice, which we did. i think that helped, and we were dealing with unknowns. i believe this was certainly, in this situation, the first of its kind. i think we‘d all agree that we were exceptionally surprised, but pleasantly surprised, to see the recovery happen at such a pace, when it did begin to happen. that i can‘t easily explain. towards the end, were you just having normal conversations about the weather and the hospital food... ? yes! yes, yeah, and as i say, there was obviously... we were mindful of, you know, our responsibility as professionals in terms of what, you know,
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we would discuss with her in terms of the incident and the ongoing investigations. you weren‘t supposed to go there effectively, is that what you‘re saying? well, ithink we just, you know, it wasn't our role to have those... it wasn't our role to have those conversations. anyone who is critically ill who wakes up in a hospital with two weeks of their life, or three weeks or four weeks of their life missing, with no family or friends‘ support, that‘s a very vulnerable and isolated place to find yourself. is it fair to say that people who have been exposed to that kind of poisoning will be in need of long—term assistance medically? i think the honest answer is that we don't know. we have a total world experience of treating three patients for the effects of novichok
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poisoning, and i think it's safe to say that we're still learning. you can watch the full report on bbc newsnight tonight at 10.30pm on bbc two. a gunman has shot down two police officers in the belgian city of liege. unconfirmed reports say a passer—by was also killed and the gunman took a cleaner hostage at a local school. police say the man has been utilised, the gunman has been shot dead, and the situation is under control. there is no indication at this stage of what the motive is. more at 11 o‘clock on bbc
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newsroom live. more at 11 o‘clock on bbc newsroom live. today around 8,000 starbucks across the us are going to close for the afternoon so that the company can teach its staff to be more tolerant of their customers. it‘s an extraordinary moment for a company that prides itself on being inclusive and tolerant. but things went wrong last month when two black men went into a shop in philadelphia and one of them used the loo. they didn‘t buy anything and when they refused to leave, staff called the police. someone recorded it on their mobile phone. don‘t get into a fight with them. don‘t get into a fight... it's ridiculous. what did they get called for? black guys sitting here eating? well, what did they do? what did they do? they didn‘t... they didn‘t do anything. we can now speak to two people
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who have got up pretty early in the us to speak to our british audience about the starbucks training. professor holly hutchins is in houston — she‘s a professor of human resource development at the university of houston. she‘s an expert on training and leadership development. and in atlanta, rodney sampson is an entrepreneur and writer who‘s main focus is changing the incomes and equality gaps that exist in america. thank you by getting up so early to talk to our audience. how does unconscious bias training help somebody not be racist?” unconscious bias training help somebody not be racist? i am not sure it will help someone not be racist, but it makes us aware of how wea k racist, but it makes us aware of how weak attribute certain characteristics to certain groups. it helps us become more aware of our
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thinking patterns. it might explain the behaviour of stereotypical traits of a given group. rodney samson, what do you think of this afternoon‘s training? samson, what do you think of this afternoon's training? it is definitely a start. there are so many companies, particularly in the venture capital world where they are not even thinking about inclusion. you cannot even teach unconscious bias or conscious bias and racism in a day because it is an incredibly complex idea. but you can start to educate and you can give examples of what is acceptable and what is not? you can. it really needs to start at home. the micro nuances or the personal and institutional racism
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and bias that is experienced globally needs to be talked about at an early age. then when there is a gap in history when you do not have positive role models of black entrepreneurs or role models like those young man at starbucks. they we re those young man at starbucks. they were real estate agents. it does have to start, but you have got to start earlier and we have to have some honest conversations about race. do you agree with that? if it is about starting something like an honest conversation about race, where would you start? we cannot change attitudes necessarily. we can change attitudes necessarily. we can change behaviours. starbucks has a long history of inclusion. at least the introductory video that i watched that will kick this off as
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an opportunity to increase awareness and motivate change. but the real proof will come in the actions. so the specific actions in terms of making people aware of the differences, teaching some of the ways to counter implicit bias and also supporting that in the workplace. i agree it is a first step and starbucks says after this training it will really show how they support and that knowledge those behaviours. rodney, do you think it is up to corporations like starbucks to try to change attitudes? well, when you come into the market place or the workplace, leave your baggage in the parking lot or at home. because employers employ people they have to establish a precedent on how they want their customers treated so when someone is paying you to treat everyone fair or
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with equity and parity, it is definitely a great starting place. corporations play a major part and thatis corporations play a major part and that is why i think starbucks have an incredible opportunity beyond this moment in time to make deep investments on the market strategy on the retail side, launching more starbucks in hispanic communities, investment in hr, attracting people of colour also in the upper management. investments across procurement, the huge creating of a middle class in america is a big impact. they have the potential to set a precedent to other large corporations and two smaller companies who want to be diverse and inclusive. thank you both so much. i
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am really grateful that you got up early. thank you for your time. wally hutchins is professor of human resource development at the university of houston and rodney samson is a writer who wants to change incomes and equality gaps in america. now, when this teacher received professional advice to keep his sexuality secret — he responded last year by coming out in front of his entire school. now he‘s set up a network to encourage other teachers from the lgbt community to do the same. daniel gray launches the initiative, this weekend at an event where more than 100 teachers, school leaders and teaching professionals will share advice on being gay or trans role models in schools. tell our audience what that was like and what the reaction was. as
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somebody who went to school i was really badly bullied for being gay. i got into about ten years of my teaching career and my confidence had built up and i thought there are children who like me would need somebody like me in their lives. so i decided as part of lgbt history month last year to come out in assembly. the response i had was fantastic and since then i have used the profile i have raised from that to launch this initiative. what was the reception? the pupils by the most open—minded people you could ever meet and the reception was relatively muted. the teachers? your colleagues? most of them were very supportive, i was amazed by how
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supportive, i was amazed by how supportive everyone was. that is why i want to share that positivity with eve ryo ne i want to share that positivity with everyone else and give those people the opportunity to be visible role models will stop i am not going to ask you who it was who gave you the advice to keep your sexuality secret, but what do you make of it? the advice was do not come out to your students, do not give them any more ammunition. that gives our young people a real disservice i think. it took me ten years to build up think. it took me ten years to build up the courage to actually be the role model that i needed when i was at school. in terms of lgbt aired that you are launching this weekend, is that to encourage others to come out or to give support to others, teachers and colleagues? once young people start seeing those visible role models, it normalises it. we
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wa nt role models, it normalises it. we want support networks for people who wa nt to want support networks for people who want to be visible role models in the workplace. it is not about walking in and saying, hello, i am 93v- walking in and saying, hello, i am gay. i want to say hello to hannah who has helped me. bbc newsroom live is next. have a lovely day. staying warm but with that potential to see some thundery downpours in the south. in fact we have already seen some the south. in fact we have already seen some thunder and lightning this morning in the south east, the best of the brightness in the north and west. that is where we will see the
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best of the sunshine today in north—west scotland and northern ireland. some sunny spells in england and wales, but potential for heavy, thundery downpours. if you catch one day could cause disruption. not quite as warm as yesterday. in the north—west it could be 26 celsius. 0vernight turning cloudy from the east with mist and fog forming and showers pushed into the south—east and they could be quite heavy with thunder and lightning. tomorrow a fair amount of cloud to begin with first thing. that will roll back to eastern coastal areas. the best of the brightness in the north—west. this is bbc news, and these are the top stories developing at 11.
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medics who treated the former russian spy, sergei skripal, and his daughter, yulia, reveal they feared the worst. when we first were aware of this was a nerve agent, we were expecting them not to survive. a gunman has shot dead two police officers in the belgian city of liege. the man — who also took a woman hostage — is said to have been neutralised. police say it is not clear at this stage if it is terrorism related. one in 25 ten and 11 year olds are severely obese, leading to warnings of a "multi—billion pound ill—health time bomb". starbucks is closing all its us shops later, to teach staff how to avoid racial
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