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for extra time. welcome to extra time. of state mike pompeo later this i'm rob bonnet. week. the harder you hit me, the harder i come back at you. boxer, maybe? well, actually, no. of olympic and commonweatlh medals to his name. michael phelps. spirit in the pool? and chad le clos, welcome to extra time.

in the introduction just now. the more i'll fight — that's the way i swim. so how did you develop that mentality? well, thanks for having me on the show. the harder you hit me, the harder i come back at you. i don't know if you've seen that. ah, so there is a boxing analogy here already. where the harder you hit me, the harder i come at you. and learning how to box cleverly, as i say, be more of a slugger. but what about the personal element of all this?

were you bullied at school? and your family life? there might be a lot of love there, but some tough love, too. from a young age, i hated losing. that was the biggest thing for me. me and my father are obviously very close. and life itself. i think, especially in the sport game. be and — and — for me, i have always hated losing. that's where it stemmed from, from a young age. you have always been a fan of football as a young boy. you could have been a professional footballer. who knows? for you but swimming was. so how did that happen? i was very young. these were the mainstream sports.

i was playing for the junior south african team. so... or whatever you call it here. and guided me towards swimming. into making that decision. there could have been more money in football. i mean, who knows? definitely more money in football. swimming is a very solitary, lonely sport, isn't it? of a young boy. uh, exactly that. was was in 2004, when i saw michael phelps for the first time. talking about

him already? yeah, sorry about that. and he won the six golds. the way he dominated. in my mind, i wanted to be that guy. you know, be that kind of champion inside the pool. began to take shape. against this guy and i'm going to beat him. and, of course, eventually you did. of training facilities that you had in south africa. in durban, you come from durban. they were pretty rudimentary, weren't they? in america or australia or in europe, as well. absolutely. too much because i think that's made me an olympic champion. i might not be the same person today.

in world—class facilities. guys to go and train on an abslute mud pitch every day. or 17 years. harness my skills and taken to the next level. yes, yes. these sorts of things... that's the least of those sort of things. but it is the start. well, what were

the others? tell us how difficult it was in those days. on the bottom of the floor. the pool had algae on the bottom. you know, like algae.... yeah. that's a health and safety issue. or british swimmers would even jump in there, to be honest. have made me who i am. australians. you feel strongly about that, do you? nobody else has done.

with so much different stuff. unless it is 26, 25 degrees. i know i have done things others haven't. that makes me more confident what i can do. that they're going to beat me. so what are we saying here? that they have at their disposal? i wouldn't say that. but i would say that i made the best of a bad situation. because they're great. i wish i'd those facilities growing up. i was just about to ask you that. be the swimmer you've become. do you think that is right? absolutely. but nobody knows. my dad told me to make the best of any situation.

never complain about where you came from. i remember where i came from. i always go back and visit everybody there. version of myself and i can be. of his going into olympic games. but i never made an excuse. i didn't come out of that making excuses. through, they wouldn't have made it to the blocks. you've talked a lot about your father. what about family life as you were growing up there? towards trying to create a world swimming champion. exactly that. yeah, i'm very particular about that. to the

house. or in the week before, and i wouldn't see her. i would eat in a different room. i ate in my room, she ate in the lounge. so for me, yeah, it was — it was quite weird. as we could for what we had. you know? honestly. medal in the london olympics in the 200 metres butterfly. take us to the moment on the block. you're — you're waiting there, waiting for the gun. what goes through your mind at that point? in that particular race? i mean, it was a such a weird day. i'll take you back a little bit earlier. i was thinking of... it was a calm day for me. me and my coach at the time, we both... calm? very calm. we were skyping our wife and kids. they were like what are you doing? we were confident in

what we could do. it was a weird feeling. shouldn't be doing that. and thinking in 2. time, life could be different. isn't it, don't you think? no, it's crazy. crowd there was unbelievable. because it was michaels‘s 10th consecutive year winning it. yes exactly, undefeated. i was 20 years old. first olympic games. i was taking in the atmosphere. i obviously knew what i could do.

say that i would not have taken a few points. even if it's breaststroke, i believe i can beat adam peaty. arrive there, and you see all the champions... there on the stage in london. that, isn't it? of course. the strategy over the first two lengths, what would that have been? which he obviously has. was because i wasn'tafraid of that. i've never been afraid of everybody. i humbly say this, you know? yeah.

i still believe he's going down, you know? guy to come up against him. then actually beyond that, the third length and the fourth. length, he's still ahead, isn't he? yeah. my strategy was for three lengths and to beat him at his own a game. with special techniques. just to prepare for when the pain comes. explain swimming with a t—shirt on. just for the drag. 0k. for me, it was about preparing for that

last 25 metres. becasue i knew last 25 metres that would be the difference. how do i say this? coming down the stretch. yes. you didn't win it. how do you react to that? um... everybody can say their own thing. five hundredths of a second was the difference. of course, of course. as part of it. he had the same race when he won gold. he won by one one hundredth, so... are you saying you were lucky to win gold, then? i'm not saying that i was lucky. there was an element of luck.

at the end of the day, i think it was destiny. i was destined. i dreamt of that moment for such a long time. of attraction that become true. i let that manifest in my mind for so long. i dreamt of talking the gold. and beating him. given not only you but your parents as well. an interview with your father that the bbc did. i think he is almost more of a celebrity than you are. i think even more.

and mother arejust as proud. turn, didn't it? 0n the one hand, you talked about how he is your friend. years, so he can keep quiet now. that was a slightly agressive, and you do... do you regret that kind of aggressive... it is funny you say that. i've been wanting to clear this up for years... exclusively on the bbc. exclusively on the bbc, you guys got it first. since i was winning the butterfly events.

you feel about this? i was saying look, guys, you actually misquoted me. and i'm very, very happy about that. 0k. of the atlantic and he kind of said, "well, i am going to use this... "mate, i didn't say any of that stuff, you know. sure there was a rivalry, but it escalated. in the corner at one of the preliminary races. no, no, look, that wasjust... it didn't look very clever, did it? no, no. for me, i can't take back anything i have done. or what is that? i was just kind of playing around. 0k.

minutes before it happened. to be honest with you. so you are best mates now, are you? yes, we're best friends. i have nothing but respect for what he's done. if he has any tension towards me, i do not think he does. friends, we are there to race. shall we say, shake hands afterwards, win, lose or draw. no doubt about it. the score is 1—1, we will see. if he would like to come back, i would love to have that happen. he is happy to be retired and he has a lovely family. it seems a little bit like unfinished business, does it? for me it does, it certainly

does. um, after that olympic games, i was very disappointed... in rio, you came fourth. of my career, really i do. no excuses, it is what it is. we'll see what happens in tokyo. hmm. with cancer, haven't they? which is obviously very good news. of the support they have continued despite their condition. sure, the most difficult time everfor me, personally. in the left breast.

i was there three weeks ago. three days later. i didn't know. i had just left for camp. to the olympic games. and sisters, not only me. at the time. she has come out of it now, but it is touch and go. in saying that, there is no buts to olympic champion. of his time but his mother had cancer. no one cares about that, you know. for me, that's not an excuse.

god forbid, something happens to someone else. mentally, these have been tough times. failed. it seems to me, one or two people in swimming. tough times mentally. is there something about swimming which brings that on? in the programme, do you have any way of accounting for that? possibly.

you have to just go through the moments and... from a kind of depression. up in everything. this kind of thing often happens after retirement, doesn't it? yeah. post—0lympic depression. post—retirement. yes, exactly. that that might happen to you? mentally, you feel strong and able to deal with that, do you? sure, i have a great family.

to me, it's so... so it was a kind of cold turkey then? it was like that. hungry enough to succeed, especially after i lost in 2016. in five months‘ time, i'm going to win the short—course. let's conclude with what you hoped would be your legacy. to build a strong force in south africa for swimming. how do you think that might work? exactly, it goes back to

what you said earlier. a lot of kids to the system. at the age of eight years old. they are tired. i want to educate the youth of south africa. you are teaching swimming amongst the black population? absolutely, yes. we opened a centre in cape town. we are hoping to open another six in the next 12 to 18 months. chad le clos taught me. of the world, and certainly in south africa. chad le clos, thank you for your time. hello,

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