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terrified. you were. you would be terrified. you wouldn't know where to go. you would perhaps listen to the fire services. there was this half an hour delay in which it has been suggested that a number of people may have been able to escape. we know some did. either because they just to escape. we know some did. either because theyjust ignored the fire services and ran, or they were eventually rescued by the fire brigade. this is incredibly difficult to read. my first thought was to the members of the fire brigade, who you remember the images of them in the morning, having worked all night to try to rescue people, feeling after the distraught, and now to have such a massive public enquiry basically blaming the fire services for pursuing a strategy which she said did not make sense. i spoke to an architect and a man who was involved in the enquiry into another tower fire back in 2005, i think it was. i was talking to henry earlier. he was
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saying... if you have fire doors you have fire retardant cladding on the building, all of the regulations are adhered to, the safest thing to do is to stay in the flat and let the fire burn itself out wherever it is. it isn't likely to spread. one assumes that was the rationale of the fire brigade. they assumed that this thing would not go up like a roman candle because it was fire reta rda nt. roman candle because it was fire retardant. what is striking and what this piece makes clear and with quite harrowing detail, it was clear for a long period of time that this wasn't your bog—standard thing. for a long period of time that this wasn't your bog-standard thing. not the usual thing. that's the problem for the fire brigade. why it took so long to change policy, not the initial one. exactly. and the periods of time are quite striking. this report said that the state put strategy had failed by 1:26am. but the advice to stay put, which had
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been given to terrified residents of the tower who were calling the emergency services, the tower who were calling the emergency services, stayed in place until more than an hour later. 2:47am was when the advice was lifted. it's unclear whether actually lifting it was too late at that time. also the guardian points out that there is a serious failure of the building and the maintenance. because you had 100 plus doors, like you said, which should have held the fire and kept people say. they didn't. 100 fire and kept people say. they didn't.100 doors failed. fire and kept people say. they didn't. 100 doors failed. that fire and kept people say. they didn't.100 doors failed. that came out straight after the main story did, that there were repeated warnings from residents that this building wasn't safe. if there was a fire, x will happen, and u nfortu nately fire, x will happen, and unfortunately it did. the guardian have focused on that. the floors of the building. the number of... it's just, it... beggars belief. not only
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you can have cladding that wasn't flame retardant, that you had windows that didn't fit, that you had fire doors which were not tested. it is just incredible that this kind of thing could have been allowed to happen. because, laura, a p pa re ntly allowed to happen. because, laura, apparently the regulations that were in place, well, there weren't any regulations in place. or at least they were not as relevant to this particular tower block as they should have been. it wasjust really uncomfortable to watch at the time because you felt as though it was in a part of london where there are some lovely houses and nice bits, and this was the council estate, and it was as if these people were left behind and the same rules and thought and judy of care had not been shown. that's what they are saying. —— been shown. that's what they are ' —— t been shown. that's what they are saying. —— duty of care. been shown. that's what they are saying. -- duty of care. that's why this enquiry is important. because it is showing that the people with the quietest voice were not being heard and this is the consequence. culture of noncompliance, that's the
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quote from the guardian. because the windows, the doors, the cladding, they were all given to different contractors and different companies. it seemed like loads of them simply did not pay heed to the regulations in place. effectively to guard against something like this. although nobody writing these regulations would have anticipated something as awful as this happening. the enquiry needs to get to the bottom of how deliberate noncompliance was. because even if the company thought cutting the odd corner here and there wasn't going to have devastating consequences like this, the rules exist for a reason. it has had devastating consequences. reason. it has had devastating consequences. this enquiry exists to get to the bottom of how on earth this could happen. in the metro, images of the kitchen where the fire began. i believe this is flat 16. it was a faulty fridge, apparently, that led to the blaze. as we were
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discussing earlier, a decent fire door on the end of the corridor with this flat on that level should have stopped everything. but in fact the whole thing went up. and a lot of it was to done with contracting. contracting out these differentjobs to different companies with a whole set of different rules. in retrospect it sounds crazy. you just think, who approved this, who signed this off, he was aware, who was monitoring? you pray something like this doesn't happen again. in the wa ke this doesn't happen again. in the wake of this disaster council blocks across the country were asked to provide evidence and show the cladding on their buildings, things like that. one of the amazing things has been how many blocks, not council blocks, have flammable cladding, and other things which are combustible. the private landlords are saying you have got to pay for it as tenants, as leaseholders. surely nobody can look at this photo
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and think anything other than any tower, any block of flats, of any sort which has combustible materials in it, needs to get sorted out as quick as possible so it never happens again. one would hope to get a few things moving on that front. the independent, may day of brexit revenge, pm puts authority on the line to overturn 50 defeat in one go. chuckles is she going to do it? we were speaking earlier about the rationale behind this decision. in 12 hours, 50 amendments. really big issues, really important issues. david lambie is quoted, he is furious that these amendments are being rushed through parliament. earlier we were saying there are lots of different amendments, some the government are not really worried about because the language is funny. the language was there to sway the government of little bit. and there are more
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serious ones, one of giving parliament a meaningful vote. but it's weird timing. the chief whip has put out a letter to mps saying, hope you had a wonderful holiday but you must be back on its next tuesday, it'll be a long day. remember our manifesto committed us to leaving the customs union. there is an amendment on the customs union. there are threats to tory mps from the chief whip, remember the ma nifesto from the chief whip, remember the manifesto the election is on. don't go against your government. railroading all of this through in one day, do you think it sounds like the right tactic? we often build these things up. we say if the big asa these things up. we say if the big as a parliamentary occasion, but really it is technical stuff. as you had in the house of lords, six weeks of debate, it gets dry, the green benches start to get sparsely populated. one of the advantages of theresa may of railroading it
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through like this is in 12 hours she can maintaina through like this is in 12 hours she can maintain a laser—like focus on the argument of the chief whip made to tory mps earlier saying you were elected on a brexit manifesto, the will of the people was expressed, let's not diverged from expressing very clearly that we need to leave deq. going to the ft. -- to leave the eu. still no real sense as to what the government believes our relationship should be with the european union. and we are less than a yearfrom european union. and we are less than a year from leaving. even david davis... it has set in this article that he is disappointed that we are reaching the june summit. that he is disappointed that we are reaching thejune summit. we keep talking about the summit as if they are significant milestones. every time we come to one we fight our way through it. this hundred and 50 page
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white paper is not coming before the summit. —— one. some people say it might be as late as october. they could be a backstop deal to prevent a hard border in ireland after brexit. and that could form the basis of some sort of talks because both sides can argue progress has been made in that area. but it is obviously quite frustrating for journalists and the public, as well. very frustrating for the public. clearly, from the financial times, henry, business leaders, as well, they don't know what the relationship will be in terms of the customs union, a new version of one, the old version that we are trying to leave but want to replicate. crazy. this piece says the leaders of 13 big companies went to see theresa may in downing street today.
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they are so frustrated that they are starting to disengage from the government. it isn't normal. it bears repeating. the leaders of companies to go and see a conservative mp, and the supposed leader of the business party, and be so frustrated by the answers they are getting that they cannot be bothered to listen to her any more. it shows you the magnitude of the conservative party's it shows you the magnitude of the conservative pa rty's problem it shows you the magnitude of the conservative party's problem and theresa may's problem. that the traditional underpinning of the conservative party support, in terms of business, is totally baffled by what she is doing. the extent they cannot work out what it is she is doing. breast-cancer world first, the remarkable recovery of a woman given three months to live, a p pa re ntly given three months to live, apparently she has been treated with her white blood cells in the i. they have used her own immune system to attack the cancer risk cells. extraordinary. there have been a
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series of stories recently which seems to be positive front page headlines about breakthroughs in cancer treatment more generally. and that the science is getting somewhere finally. there appears to bea somewhere finally. there appears to be a rush with different companies competing against each other to develop this technology. it generally feels positive at the moment. normally it is such a negative headline, but these stories make it feel like progress is being made. one of the things worth noting, on a more cautious note, this story and a lot of these stories is from the us. one of the things tessa jowell said before she died last month, in her case of brain cancer, she wanted the nhs to be more innovative and much quicker to adapt to new, innovative treatment is being pioneered around the world. this argument was also made by maurice saatchi after his wife died of cancer. these stories are positive that they always seem
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to come from america. clearly it is something we need to think about in the uk. that's a really good point to make. the daily telegraph. this is quite small, this cartoon. very small lettering. hello, darling, i'm coming home by train. you should remarry and try to forget me. laughter a number of mps from northern constituencies have been meeting chris grayling this evening to voice their frustration and anger. conservatives, liberal democrats, and labour, cross—party, not a lot of friends chris grayling has at the moment. the best thing this morning was when the meetings about cancelled trains got cancelled. that was my favourite moment of the day. due to over scheduling. we will leave it there. lura hughes, henry zeffman, thank you forjoining me.
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thank you for watching. you can see all of the front pages and all of the papers on the website. if you missed a programme any evening there is always iplayer. goodbye. many eastern areas have cloud to start and end the day today. tomorrow may start cloudy, but the sun will reappear. we have extensive cloud cover overnight. parts of northern ireland in the western fringes of scotland england and wales have a clear spells. with the cloud there could be drizzle. patchy mist and falkirk cannot be ruled out. some areas dipping into single figures. cloudy and drizzly in
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places tomorrow morning, but slowly the sun will appear across scotland, then northern england, then we will see sunny spells in eastern and south east england. and in north wales. leaving the midlands and south west of england rather cloudy. lots of cloud in northern ireland. most lots of cloud in northern ireland. m ost pla ces lots of cloud in northern ireland. most places dry. cloud along north sea coasts. bringing the temperature down to the mid—teens. most places have sunny spells developing, reaching the high teens up to 20 celsius. this is bbc news. i'm clive myrie. the headlines at 11pm: the grenfell fire inquiry has heard that a catalogue of problems led to the tower being engulfed in flames. the blaze started in flat 16 on the fourth floor near a fridge. the 999 call made by the man who lived there was played at the hearing. there's been more misery for rail passengers in the north
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