hello, it's wednesday, it's nine o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. were you one of the nearly 2 million tsb customers who were affected by those it problems? the financial watchdog is now going to investigate what went wrong, and the head of tsb will be back is back in front of mps again today. can he do better than last time? the percentage that are logging in successfully is 95%. of course, 5% of customers are not logging in, and that is often the case for any bank. let us know if you are still having problems with tsb's banking services. also, i've been to meet two women who recently wrote to us to say that watching a programme i took part in called the real full monty — that encouraged women to check their breasts — led them to doing just that. dear victoria, i want to thank you for saving my life. i've watched the full monty programme, checked my breasts and found a lump under my nipple. dear victoria, i just wanted

to say a heartfelt thank you for participating in the real full monty. without you being on the show and talking about your experience, i may never have made the appointment to see my doctor. i went to meet margaret and maren — both of whom have now been diagnosed with breast cancer. wwatch our exclusive film at 9:15, and after 10:30 we're going to show you live on air how you actually check your breasts properly and what you shld be looking out for. plus — a report out today suggests more girls and women are getting involved in gangs, and carrying or hiding illegal drugs and weapons, like guns. just, like, holding knives in my house for people, holding a big amount of drugs, etc. guns and everything. people back in the day that i used

to talk to, they are very, very violent people. a lot of them don't even take no for an answer. just after 10:00, i'll be speaking to a woman who was in a gang for 23 years — from the age of 13 to 36. if you know a girl or young woman in a gang, do let us know their story. hello. welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning. as a woman, how often do you check your breasts for any changes in them? and i can ask you men the same question as well. so you can potentially spot any early sign of breast cancer? most changes wont be breast cancer so don't worry. we're going to show how you examine your breasts properly after 10:30. do get in touch on that this morning,

how often do you examine yourself and when do you do it? and do stay tuned for our film with margaret and maren in a few minutes time. our top story today... a computer failure that locked 1.9 million tsb customers out of their online banking services is being investigated by the financial regulator. the financial conduct authority has also criticised the bank's chief executive, accusing him of being too optimistic about the bank's services after a major systems overhaul left customers struggling to carry out transactions or access their accounts. here's our personal finance correspondent, simon gompertz. it's more than six weeks since tsb customers found they couldn't get into their accounts. now the service is working better, but it's still unstable and 40% of the time people can't get help on the phone. the pressure is piling up on the chief executive, paul pester, who took the ill—fated decision in april to move millions of customers' accounts to a new system and is directly criticised now by the financial regulator. in a letter to the treasury select committee, the fca says at the height of the crisis, paul pester gave mps an optimistic view of services, which was too positive. and to customers, the bank was not

open and transparent, claiming the vast majority could use their online accounts, when only half could. there's particular concern about an increase in customers impacted by fraud. not all of them receiving refunds from tsb as quickly as they're supposed to. today, tsb's directors will face intense questioning from mps on the failures. the bank says it's completely focused on restoring operations to the level customers expect and making sure they're not left out of pocket. simon gompertz, bbc news. our business presenter sally bundock is here. give us some more detail on what the sca is really concerned about. give us some more detail on what the sca is really concerned aboutm quite an unusual move on the part of andrew bailey, who is in charge of the financial conduct authority. what he's saying is we would normally tackle this kind of thing

not in the public eye, but he is coming out in public to say, given the high level of public interest in this story with regards to tsb and the number of people impacted by the problem, we want to make it clear that we will go as far as we possibly can in terms of investigating exactly what went wrong. simon was saying in his report there that one of the criticisms levelled at the boss of tsb is that when he was first grilled by politicians, and all of us grilled by politicians, and all of us in the media as well, he wasn't making it really clear how bad the situation was. he was actually being too optimistic and giving those customers, 5 million tsb customers, nearly 2 million were impacted by this, the wrong impression, that things were all right, going to be 0k in the very near future and it actually took a long time and many we re actually took a long time and many were seriously impacted by it. paul pester will be in front of mps again this afternoon and you will be able

to watch it on the bbc news channel. joanna gosling is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. authorities in guatemala say that nearly 200 people are missing following the eruption of the fuego volcano on sunday, which spewed lava and burning debris on villages nearby. a second eruption yesterday prompted further evacuations and hampered rescue efforts. the number of confirmed deaths has now reached 75. 0ur correspondent will grant has been to one of the worst hit villages . worst hit villages. it is a scene they know all too well in this part of guatemala. fuego spewing smoke and ash, desperate families running for their lives. just days after the massive volcanic eruption destroyed entire villages, the volcano began to smoke again and the emergency services decided to evacuate. following the huge pyroclastic lava flows, the ground beneath them was still dangerously hot and too precarious to keep searching for survivors. in the end, they ordered everyone but essential personnel off the mountain. the tiny community of el rodeo, high on the mountain slope, will never be the same.

some lost their homes, others their entire families. buried beneath the ash are lives and livelihoods. few who return to this village will find they have been spared the grief. boris rodriguez lost this wife and family and now has nowhere to turn. translation: no-one told us anything, no—one came by to say to evacuate. nothing. people got out however they could. those who could get out, did, and those who couldn't, well, god rest them. the emergency services are working around the clock — some literally until they drop — but they are struggling to cope. the disaster has left a trail of destruction that will take months to overcome in what is already one of the poorest countries in the americas. the search for survivors continues in el rodeo, but with each passing hour, the likelihood of success is growing

slimmer and for those families waiting for news further down the mountainside, the prospects are looking grim. will grant, bbc news, el rodeo, guatemala. and victoria will be talking to a woman who was at the site of the second eruption later this hour. theresa may is to hold talks in downing street today with the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu. mr netanyahu has been visiting leaders across europe to discuss how to limit iran's nuclear capabilities. he supported president's trump's decision to pull out of an international accord last month, a move which was condemned by britain, france and germany. tributes have been pouring in for the american designer, kate spade, who has been found dead at her home in new york. the 55—year—old was best known for designing handbags and a range of accessories. the kate spade brand became a household name with stores around the world. jon donnison reports. kate spade splashed onto the fashion

scene in the 19905 with her bright and colourful designs. 0utside her apartment, where her body was found, fans and the media gathered. police believe the 55—year—old took her own life. it appears at this point in time to be a tragic case of apparent suicide, but it is early in the investigation. there was a suicide note left at the scene. for many of her customers, the news came as a huge shock. kate spade was just somebody i always looked up to. keep life light and happy and fun, and when this kind of thing happens to someone like that, you just... you never know who's going through what. everywhere you go in paris, in madrid, she's famous, she's famous. it's so sad. she is only 55, and this isjust terrible. many celebrity fans paid tribute on social media. chelsea clinton said she got her first kate spade bag when she was in college. the us actress lena dunham said

thank you, from one of the millions you made feel beautiful. in a statement, kate spade's family asked for privacy, saying they were devastated and would miss her terribly. jon donnison, bbc news. more girls and women are becoming involved in gangs, according to a new report today. researchers at london south bank university suggest women and girls often get involved in gang—related criminal behaviour, such as carrying or hiding illegal drugs and weapons. it says they're exposed to physical and sexual violence which is becoming more prevalent in gang culture. an australian woman has died after contracting hepatitis a from a packet of frozen pomegranate. health authorities said the 64—year—old died in south australia last week in a "rare and tragic" case. australians have been urged to check their freezers and discard packets of the frozen fruit. three leading health

think tanks have written to the prime minister calling for funding increases of 4% a year above inflation for the nhs. the chief executives of the king's fund, the health foundation and nuffield trust, argue that anything less will mean a drop in patient care and a growing backlog of critical repairs to hospitals. a new government plan for nhs funding in england is expected within weeks. northern rail employees are to walk out on strike in a continuing row of the role of guards on trains. the operator, which runs local services across the north of england, is currently experiencing major delays and cancellations to trains, after the introduction of a new timetable. members of the rmt union will stop work for 2h hours on june the 19th, 21st and 23rd. the much—anticipated meeting between us president donald trump and north korean leader kim jong—un will take place at a hotel on the singaporean island of sentosa, the white house has confirmed. the historic summit is scheduled

to take place on 12thjune, but many details are still unconfirmed. it will be the first meeting between a north korean leader and a sitting us president. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9:30. 0n the subject of tsb problems, just dean on twitter says she is still unable to transfer money to her son through the tsb app on her phone. it's not good enough, and there is an average 30 minute wait on the phone for them to do it for me. on the subject of breast cancer, this is from mike, who hasjust seen the subject of breast cancer, this is from mike, who has just seen an article on the bbc website about a piece you are doing and breast cancer today. as a five—year survivor of breast cancer, with a mastectomy and chemotherapy, i would urge you to follow up your presentation with the mention of male breast cancer. please have a short statement urging men and

reminding them that they are susceptible to it as well. thank you to mike. remember if you are tweeting or texting at you will be charged at the standard network rate. let's get some sport with tim hague. tim, the man who has given us so many highs at wimbledon is still struggling with injury? he has been out for nearly a year with a hip injury and has further delayed his comeback by pulling out ofa delayed his comeback by pulling out of a grass court event in the netherlands next week. the three—time major michael winner and to make time 0lympic three—time major michael winner and to make time olympic gold medallist is now ranked at 47 in the world and isn't the british and about one any more. “— isn't the british and about one any more. —— the three—time major winner. he wants to be fit in time for wimbledon on july two. winner. he wants to be fit in time for wimbledon onjuly two. not long to go. hopefully we will see the former winner on the grass again. it's been a tough 12 months, clearly in pain when he lost to sam querrey at wimbledon in the quarterfinals last year, and was still suffering a

hip problem more than a month later when he had to pull out of the us open two days before it began. he gave a tearful press conference to announce that. injanuary he was forced to have surgery, something he wa nted forced to have surgery, something he wanted to avoid. he is a tough cookie, but he has been through a lot in the last year, andy murray. football and sergio ramos continues his one man mission to upset liverpool fans! he has been very successful at it so far! the real madrid captain was blamed for injuring mo salah's shoulder in the champions league final, and yesterday we were told he effectively left the goalkeeper loris karius concussed as well. he has responded in a typically robust fashion. explaining what happened with salah, he said he grabbed his arm first and he fell to the other side. saying salah fell on the opposite arm so he couldn't have injured him. and also said salah could have played on if he had got

an ejection. he do sarcasm very well. he do sarcasm very well. he has a career in a drama or soap opera after football i think. the sport rich list has been released with no women on it. astonishing. floyd mayweather is top of the list, not surprising, but not a single woman in the forbes top 100 women earners list. serena williams was the only one last year, worrying itself. she took time off to have a baby and was not playing. so totally male dominated. floyd money mayweather as he is nicknamed, he made £200 million mainly from his fight with mcgregor, who himself was

at number four. lionel messi and cristiano ronaldo, second and third. the highest earning britain is lewis hamilton in 12. for the first time ever, no women in the top 100 list. does not seem right to me. more from tim throughout the morning. good morning. earlier this year i took part in an itv prime—time show called the real full monty: ladies night. along with seven other women whose lives have been touched by cancer, we bared all, pretty much — with the sole aim of encouraging women to check their breasts. six weeks later, maren marshall and margaret witts, two women who had never met, wrote to this programme with their touching stories. i went to meet them, and it was a little emotional. dear victoria. i want to thank you for saving my life. i watched the full monty programme,

checked my breasts, and found a lump under my nipple. dear victoria. ijust wanted to say a heartfelt thank you for participating in the real full monty. without you being on the show and talking about your experience, i may never have made the appointment to see my doctor. i am to have a mastectomy early in june. i would never have known until too late. i had an appointment with a nurse specialist, who confirmed my worst fears. a million thanks, margaret. i will be for ever grateful to you and the real full monty ladies. thank you. earlier this year, i took

part in a show called the real full monty: ladies night, alongside seven other women whose lives had been touched by cancer. i bared all on prime—time television. the aim, to get women to check their breasts. tonight, there might be someone watching who learns something about breast cancer that they didn't know before and it potentially might save their life. now that is massive. weeks later, i received two e—mails from women who had donejust that. both had discovered a lump. both had breast cancer. maren had surgery to remove a cancerous lump in her breast five days ago. i'm taking her to birmingham to meet margaret for the first time. you all right? i'm all right. yeah, sure? yeah, yeah, yeah. hello, margaret, how are you?

you're looking gorgeous. no more gorgeous than you, my dear. this is maren. hi, pleased to meet you. margaret is 86. after watching the real full monty: ladies night, she did check her breasts, realised her nipple had inverted, and there was a lump beneath it. next week, she's having a mastectomy. i got myself a nice big glass of sherry and i sat down and put my feet up on my recliner. put a blanket over my legs, and i'm looking forward to the next day, because that's when i had family coming, good friday. i watched the programme. i laughed and i cried. i cried with you! and then at the end of the programme, it flashed up, now, ladies, go check your breasts. and i thought, well, i will perhaps do that. but when i woke up in the morning, this flashed across my mind. i read it there in front of me, check your breasts. so when i had my shower,

i stood in front of the full—length mirror, and there it was. that one was much shorter than that one. this is the bad one. a nipple had gone right up half inside. i thought, oh. i started to feel around my nipple and there was this craggy feeling lump. total disbelief. you said you had found you had an inverted nipple and your breast had gone flat. and that's when you had the alarm bells ringing, like i did. i've always had an inverted nipple, but it was slightly more inverted than normal. when i don't wear a bra, i'd noticed that i had a significant dip, whereas before it was quite flat. so i went to my doctors. what do you think you feel about having had breast cancer?

i don't think i think anything. i really don't think i think anything at the moment. i think i'm probably still a little bit raw and numb. we need to sit down for this. i'm not going to beat around the bush, and it's nasty. but i don't remember ever hearing the word cancer until the following week when he phoned me. have you told people that you have breast cancer? oh, yes. i told everybody. it's not a sympathy vote, ijust want people to understand that this loud, gobby, forthright female is possibly going to be a little bit moody and up and down. i'd rather they were asking me what was wrong than whispering about me in the corner. saying what's the matter with her? she's a little bit down today. yeah, everybody at work and friends that are important to me know about it. can i ask you both,

what if you hadn't checked yourself? i would have been none the wiser. i would never have thought to go under my nipple to find a lump. and i never would've noticed a difference because i wouldn't have stood in front of the mirror. it's amazing, what you did. isn't she amazing? well, it's what you did because you checked yourself. that was the key. because of you talking and bravely talking about it in front of however many people were listening that night, we both did something about it. and i don't believe that if... that i would have done something about it. and i'm going to throw it back at you. so, how does it make you feel, knowing that what you did has had this effect on us? oh, that's a really hard question. sorry. that's a really good question. so i'm really sorry that you have

and have had breast cancer, i'm really sorry, obviously. but i'm also really glad that you took the message from the programme and you checked yourselves, which is what we wanted to. and, ok, you found something, but actually i think thank god you did. your cancer is now gone because of the lumpectomy. the lumpectomy has removed that. so that tumour is gone, which is amazing. yours very soon will be gone. yes, it will. and then you will find out if there is any further treatment, hopefully there won't be much more. you don't know. that's what the oncologist will tell you. and then hopefully you get on with the rest of your life, don't you? yes, what's left of it. have you thought about the future? do you think about processing what you've just experienced? i don't think i'm looking at it in terms of life or death,

if i hadn't. i just... i don't know. i'm really not sure how i'm feeling, do you know, at all. it's not the end of the world. it's just that word cancer. it will affect everybody. if anyone says to you, you have cancer, you go into overdrive. because it's a stigma, isn't it? everybody thinks of it as... death sentence. yes. the big c. it's not. so what made you write me an e—mail? because it's all your fault! and i wanted you to know. i would like to say to you, good luck. thank you. loads of love, loads of strength. you know you've got it in you, you know that. i would like to say to you, you've done it. i mean, that is amazing.

i'm out the other side. well done. astonishing, astonishing. and we're here for each other when we need it. yes, thank you. thank you for being there. no, don't be daft. thank you. come on, let's hold hands across the table. thank you very much, victoria. no worries. maren and margaret. and obviously we wish maren continued success with her recovery and we wish margaret so much luck for her mastectomy if would like more information about breast cancer and its symptons, you can find lots information at bbc.co.uk/action line. here's the website — click down to cancer and you can find the charities and their websites and

phone numbers there. after 10:30 we're going to talk to a breast surgeon to show you exactly how you do your own breast examination. so do stay with us for that.. thanks your messages, dave herbert said a lovely film, emotional indeed, keeps giving the message. lucy said, my story is similar, today i start for weeks of radiotherapy. following my lumpectomy six weeks ago. this is a massive relief to me but i attribute it to catching everything earlier than i would have done had it not been down to watching the full monty. you should be proud of what you achieved. another said we have much in common, age, diagnosis,

right—sided mastectomy, the chemo. i'm sorry. the ipad has frozen so i cannot read the rest but i will later. thank you to those of you sending messages. we will continue to read them throughout the programme. how to fund the nhs is a constant topic for discussion and relevant to our previous item on breast cancer treatment. a new government plan for nhs funding in england is expected within weeks. today three leading health think tanks have written to the prime minister calling for funding increases of 4% per year above inflation for the nhs — warning that anything less will cause patient care to deteriorate and a growing backlog of critical repairs to hospitals. let's talk to the chief executive of the nuffield trust, nigel edwards. the nuffield trust is a charity that seeks to improve healthcare through independent

evidence and analysis, and is one of the three think tanks. how much are you asking for? 4%, £6 billion. the nhs has had a flat funding settlement... what does that mean? it has been going up onlyjust by the rate of what the government ca rizza by the rate of what the government carizza as inflation which is less than the real rate of inflation so —— what the government counts as inflation. we are getting older as a population. also, not getting more well as we grow older, partly because people survive things like cancer and heart attacks that previously would have killed them, so we have a growing population with

people with multiple conditions. the underlying pressure is 2%, 1.5%. these are big numbers. it is happening across western europe. 6 million per year how many years?m is more than 6 billion because it is compounds. that is the way percentages work. across the developed world as we get older, as we are not getting more well, and also as we develop new technology. it is more expensive. people expect them and have a right to get in. it is more expensive. people expect them and have a right to get inm them and have a right to get inm the government does not fund to the levels you would like, what will happen? the nhs will slip back and waiting times will increase and people will not get access to new treatment and hospitals will continue to have problems. the big issueis continue to have problems. the big issue is the impact on the workforce. we have managed to

achieve a remarkable thing of making the nhs work, despite not getting extra money, by making workers work harder and it is starting to show with signs of burn—out in general practice with 40,000 nurse vacancies, exacerbated by the impact potentially brexit and there is a real worry that services will drop gently apart. do you believe those promises in the run—up to the referendum on brexit? that money will come back to the nhs? it was promised many times, and it has been promised farmers and universities as well. i don't believe it, absolutely not. i don't think anyone believed it, did they? lots of people dead, and that's why they voted, say. —— lots of people dead, and that's why they voted, say. -- lots of people did, and that's why they voted, they

say. the government say they have committed to increasing nhs spending by8 committed to increasing nhs spending by 8 billion in real terms. they say they are investing more in mental health than ever before. more doctors and nurses looking after patients. the health care system has been ranked the best of 11 wealthy countries by the commonwealth fund. nothing is ever wrong in the eyes of the department of health's press spokesperson. they live in a kind of alternative universe, which must be nice. the £8 billion represents significantly less than the nhs would need to meet the growing needs of the population. that represents a reduction in the amount of real terms money allowing for inflation and adjusting for age, and it represents a reduction in money spent per head of population. it is more money, but of course the nhs spends a record amount of money because each year it increases. it's a trivial statement. a lot of good things are happening in the nhs. the

real issue is it has managed to acquire a large deficit, a big backlog of repairs and maintenance is not being done. the fact remained that although the commonwealths funds say we are top, the embarrassing thing is that in the group of 11 countries, we are bottom for outcome. we are good in terms of equity, not bad in terms of access, but in terms of getting the outcomes people want for things like heart attack, stroke and cancer, we are not doing as well as we should. thank you to nigel edwards from the nuffield trust. we can speak to our health editor hugh pym. what chance the government listening to these three think tanks and then acting on what they are asking for?|j three think tanks and then acting on what they are asking for? i think they are listening to a range of voices across the nhs, including the think tanks. the big question is what number they come up with. we are expecting a long—term funding plan promised by theresa may any week now, in time for the 70th anniversary of the nhs next month. health leaders like simon stevens at

nhs england, jeremy hunt, the health and social care secretary, are pushing for annual increases above inflation of close to 4%. and as you have heard from the think tank report, that is what is recommended to improve services and keep up with patient demand. 3% would leave things as they are. it seems as if the treasury could be holding out for something under 3%, and that is the big battle going on in whitehall right now, the health world saying if you are going to do it, you must do it properly with funding increases of 4% or more in the future. the treasury having to cope with a lot of public finance pressure, saying much closer to 2% is required. we don't know the outcome to that and the tussle continues. the government is certainly committed to a long—term funding plan. it will be scrutinised carefully when we actually see the numbers. still to come. argentina has cancelled a football

friendly with israel. while the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu comes to downing street for talks with theresa may today. and 75 people are known to have died and almost 200 people are still missing in guatemala after a series of volcanic activity. coming up, i'll speak to a journalist in the region about the devastating impact of the eruptions. time for the latest news — here's joanna gosling. a computer glitch that locked 1.9 million tsb customers out of their online banking services is being investigated by the financial regulator. the financial conduct authority also criticised the bank's chief executive, accusing him of being too optimistic about the bank's services after a major systems overhaul left customers struggling to carry out transactions or even access their accounts. authorities in guatemala say that nearly 200 people are missing after the eruption of the fuego volcano on sunday, which spewed lava and burning debris onto villages nearby.

a second eruption yesterday prompted further evacuations of resident in the surrounding area and hampered rescue efforts. the number of confirmed deaths has reached 75. labour says the eu would be willing to do an economic deal linking britain closely with the single market after brexit. the shadow brexit secretary sir keir starmer told the bbc that the issue of free movement of people would be part of the negotiations. full access to the internal market means the benefits of the single market, which has always been the labour party position. 0bviously that comes with obligations, and that's why we have said it has to be underpinned by shared institutions and shared regulations. and free movement? free movement would have to be regulated. we would have to set up what we seek to achieve and

the eu is looking for movement itself, and it would be part of the negotiation. an australian woman has died after contracting hepatitis a from a packet of frozen pomegranate. health authorities said the 64—year—old died in south australia last week in a "rare and tragic" case. australians have been urged to check their freezers and discard packets of the frozen fruit. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. sport now with tim. andy murray makes wimbledon his target, but after nearly a year injured, the former world number one has to pull out of an upcoming tournament due to a lack of match fitness. his old rival novak djokovic isn't having much fun either. the 12 time major winner is beaten in the french open quarterfinal by unseeded italian marco cecchinato. sergio ramos continues to upset liverpool fans. the real madrid and spain captain claims he didn't injure mo salah in the champions league final and that the egyptian should have just had an injection if he wanted to play on! and while floyd mayweather tops

the list of sport's highest earners, there is not a single woman in the top 100 names. see you after 10:00. argentina has cancelled a world cup warm—up match with israel, apparently under political pressure over israel's treatment of palestinians in gaza. news of the cancellation was met with cheers in gaza, where at least 120 palestinians were killed by israeli forces during recent protests. it's expected gaza will be one of the subjects benjamin neta nyahu, later today when they meet for talks in downing street. it's the last stop on his three—day tour of europe, meeting leaders to discuss iran and the best way to curb iran's nuclear aspirations. last month, president trump decided to withdraw us backing for the deal reached in 2015, under which iran promised to limit its nuclear activities in return for the easing of international sanctions. let's talk to rosemary hollis, professor of middle east policy

studies at city university. and ali ansari, who specializes in the modern history of iran and the middle east at st andrews. rosemary, what is wrong, according to the israeli prime minister, with the iran deal that barack 0bama signed, supported by the uk, france and germany? his concerns are that it doesn't end the iranians capacity to produce nuclear weapons if they wished to. it's only up to eight certain deadline. the results of the deal will determine how much iran stands to gain in terms of economic benefits, was set to determine how they would feel about sticking with that kind of deal long term. but netanyahu that kind of deal long term. but neta nyahu is afraid that kind of deal long term. but netanyahu is afraid if they get the

economic benefits, that will inspire them and galvanise them to use that opportunity. is iran abiding by the agreement? it is so far. the big concern for the british government is that if netanyahu wants them to support his much more tough position on iran, this earthy the iranians residence in syria, which is a danger to israel, —— vi—a—vis the iranians residents in syria. he is asking the british government to condone what president trump did, walking out of the deal. for the british, the precedent of that is very difficult to accept, because it means you have all five members of the un permanent security council and the eu signing up to a deal which deals with the problem of

iran's nuclear capability short—term, and neta nyahu iran's nuclear capability short—term, and netanyahu and trump are basically saying, never mind, it's not good enough, let's dump it and try something else. and the something else is effectively saying to iran, do what we say, or else. why does the israeli prime minister, when he has the backing of american donald trump, want to persuade britain, france and germany to push away from the iran deal?” britain, france and germany to push away from the iran deal? i think he's trying to build a coalition of the willing of his own and wants to put europeans on board to put more pressure on iran. i have to say for more practical purposes, it probably doesn't make a huge amount of difference because it will be difficult for european companies to do business in iran under current circumstances anyway. a lot of this to my mind is diplomatic theatrics, it's an attempt to keep the pressure on but in practical terms there is

very little the european union can do give him the integrated nature of the european economy without the united states. netanyahu is saying that the deal is probably dead for the reasons that the professor has just named. but it is a different matter to ask the british government to go along with this. to say this is the best policy for dealing with iran. because that is to us, the british, french and germans, which he has just british, french and germans, which he hasjust done, to reverse the position they had adopted through the entirety of the 0bama administration, and they thought they had success. professor, can you explain briefly to our audience why the israeli handling of the protests in neighbouring gaza have been so controversial and would you expect theresa may to raise that with the israeli prime minister this afternoon? i certainly would. i think there is no doubt that she

will do. she will have to do, to some extent. i agree with professor hollis to some extent, it will be difficult for the europeans to break with the agreement the way that trump has. it just with the agreement the way that trump has. itjust for practical purposes, and by september or so, the deal is dying by a thousand cuts and going in a certain direction. it is difficult for them to break with it unless neta nyahu is difficult for them to break with it unless netanyahu is able to provide some sort of very decisive documentary evidence of something that the iranians have done. the significance of argentina cancelling a warmer football match?” significance of argentina cancelling a warmer football match? i think it demonstrates the power of the palestinian diaspora. the israelis do have to keep in mind that there isa do have to keep in mind that there is a very large palestinian diaspora around the world, including in latin america. that stems from the refugee crisis, when israel was created in 1948. that's the same issue over

which the gaza palestinians have been demonstrating and the british government is embarrassed to have an ally, they regard israel very favourably, but they are embarrassed by not only the stands of israel over the iran deal, but also the way the israeli armed forces handled the demonstrators inside the gaza strip. and they question the israeli assertions that two thirds of those killed by the israeli army could be proven to be members of hamas and the could therefore be defined as terrorists. and for those who were clearly not but were killed, as a member of disciplining —— is a method of disciplining a demonstration. thank you for your comments on a variety of subjects in the news. this from christopher morley on tsb,

news that the financial conduct authority will investigate tsb, the existing problems with visa and tsb highlight the weaknesses of exploring alternative payment methods. we are too reliant on the high street banks. they should be doing better. crypto currency is growing in popularity worldwide. no middleman and no transaction fees, secure and generally increasing in popularity in value over time to stop sheena e—mails to say she is a small business bank account holder with tsb. i still can't access my tab. i now have a direct contact who i need to contact to pay bills. it is slightly easier than waiting hours on the phone, but i'm getting really frustrated as i was threatened by one supplier with them instructing sheriff officers. i'm worried this will affect my business credit rating. the bank says now only 400 customers are having

similar issues. i still don't think that's good enough. would you like to know the most peaceful place on earth? according to a new study, it's iceland. the global peace index has assessed 163 states and territories on how peaceful they are, scoring them on three areas, which are safety and security, conflict and demilitarisation. the top five most peaceful places are iceland at the top spot, new zealand, austria, portugal and denmark. the least peaceful places are syria afganistan, south sudan , iraq , and somalia. the uk is scored as the 57th. the usa is ranked as the 121st here to talk about the figures is steve killelea, the chief executive of the institute for economics and peace, we put special measurements so we

understand what a peaceful societies and then ascribe an economic value. are you a charity, think—tank, how would you describe yourselves? we describe ourselves as a think—tank, nonpartisan and not—for—profit, based in australia, new york, mexico city, brussels and netherlands. the significance of coming top? iceland isa significance of coming top? iceland is a peaceful country and if you look back into its history you can understand why that the significance of having the index really, it gives us of having the index really, it gives usa of having the index really, it gives us a way to of having the index really, it gives us a way to measure peace of having the index really, it gives us a way to measure peace and understand what are the qualities associated with highly peaceful societies that gives a basis to understand how to create peace. if

we look at the index, that is one advantage and the second thing, you can ascribe an economic value to changes in peace. peace last year cost the global economy about 12.4% of gdp. what cost $14 trillion? the cost of violence. $14 trillion. what can we learn from countries like iceland when it comes to security, conflict, demilitarisation? we find there are qualities associated with highly peaceful societies. it is what we call positive peace. things like well functioning government, strong business environment, equitable distribution resources, free flow of information, such as a free flow of information, such as a free press, low corruption and a range of other factors. these come together to create a peaceful society but what we also found, the

same factors, they lead to a lot of other things we think are important, such as stronger and more robust business environments. through the study of peace we can understand the qualities that create peace and that can unleash an economic value that can unleash an economic value that can go back to creating a better world a better societies that are more peaceful. is it possible for any and every country to be peaceful? it is all relative. it is ha rd peaceful? it is all relative. it is hard for any of us to imagine a world absolutely 100% at peace. it will not happen in my lifetime and maybe not in yours, but we can imagine let's say 10% more peaceful. if we had a country 10% more peaceful way would be $1.4 trillion, about the size of overseas developmental aid, or about the size of overseas developmentalaid, oradding about the size of overseas developmental aid, or adding the economies of denmark, ireland and

switzerland to the global economy each year. a phenomenal amount of money. thank you very much. fascinating. thanks. coming up... lava and ash continue to spew from a volcano in guatemala. more than 70 people have been killed and nearly 200 are missing. in a few minutes, i'll be speaking to a journalist who was there. tributes have been pouring in to kate spade, the handbag and fashion designer, who died yesterday at her new york home. police say they are investigating her death, at 55, as an apparent suicide. her family said in a statement that they were devastated and would "miss her terribly". british vogue editor anna wintour said... "kate spade had an enviable gift for understanding exactly what women the world over wanted to carry". chelsea clinton — daughter of former us president bill, said... donald trump's daughter ivanka

paid tribute, saying... "kate spade's tragic passing is a painful reminder that we never truly know another‘s pain or the burden they carry." and she reached out to those dealing with mental health issues." singer bette midler tweeted saying... and actor lena dunham said... when you had a kate spade on your arm, it felt

like something different. it is definitely iconic. her impact is incredible in so many aspects. just from a brand point of view and how it got built up from the early 90s. it became iconic. it was the brand that celebrities like gwyneth paltrow was wearing. everybody wanted to own it. she took the classic tote and clutch and the signature shapes and she added her side to it. pops of colour, bright, stripes. the lining inside bags. hot pink bags with a green lining inside. no one was doing that. it felt still designer, yet a lot more affordable and wearable. and playful. everybody wants to be able to access something a little bit more luxury and designer.

her being able to tap into that and allow people to maybe purchase things that were more affordable and making bags that most people felt comfortable buying really helped her. she put her label on the outside of the bag and we saw a lot more designers do that. so she tested at the industry in ways it had not been tested before. i think whenever a brand is able to do that and can push buttons and switch the way they do things, that will always make a brand timeless and stand out for ever. she will surpass time with what she created and the namesake that it is. now to the volcano in guatemala, where 75 people are now known to have died and nearly 200 are missing. as the first funerals take place, new eruptions have prompted further panic and hampered the relief effort. will grant has travelled to some of the worst affected areas. this area of the tiny village of el rodeo has been completely

devastated by the ash and rock that came thundering through here after the volcano erupted. cars have been tossed to one side like they are toys. heavy machinery is trying to lift out some of the worst of the debris. we have seen homes that have been completely submerged in the lava flows and the huge cloud of dust after the fuego exploded, after the eruption. and if anybody survived that, it is truly miraculous. we know that entire families were caught in their homes when the lava flows came past. translation: no one told us anything. no one came by to say evacuate. nothing. those who could get out did, and those who couldn't, well, god rest them. translation: i want to see how my house is. i need to see my house, because i don't know anything. the search for survivors

continues in el rodeo, but with each passing hour, that looks increasingly unlikely. and for those who still have not heard from their loved ones, the prospects are looking grim. let's talk to louisa reynolds, a freelance journalist based in antigua, who has been following events from inside the disaster zone. from your point of view, what damage did you see? yesterday i visited the area worst affected. i visited el rodeo, the village you mentioned in your report. i was able to see first—hand the rescue operation and the way rescue workers were breaking through the tin roofs of their homes, trying to access these homes in search of bodies. by this point

it is highly unlikely there will be any more survivors found, but who knows, rescue workers are still working hard in the hope of at least being able to retrieve the bodies, and there are over 100 people missing and family members who are currently in shelters who are obviously very distraught. that is the situation we could see yesterday. shortly afterwards, there was another explosion. the area had to be evacuated once again. how many family members have some people lost, according to those you spoke to? yesterday was a government press conference when they gave official figures and there are over 100 reported missing which means the final death toll could be higher

than at the moment. the death toll is currently 70, but that could rise to maybe almost 200. and in terms of those who are still searching for missing relatives, presumably there is panic and desperation and anguish? exactly. there is anguish, anguish? exactly. there is anguish, a lot of desperation. yesterday in el rodeo, i met a young man desperately looking for his parents. they lived in a another village at the other side of the volcano. he said there are 150 villagers trapped there. who have no food or water but he assured me they are still alive. relatives will cling to the hope they will be able to find their loved ones. some of the stories you hearin loved ones. some of the stories you hear in the shelters are heartbreaking. i met a woman

yesterday who have lost up to 20 relatives. children, parents, aunts and uncles, it is a very distressing situation for these people. thank you. louisa reynolds reporting from guatemala. we will bring you the latest news and sport at ten o'clock. before that, a weather update. if you have an allergy to grass pollen, it is not good news. we have very high levels across much of england, wales and northern ireland. northern england, levels are lower as in scotland, but moderate around strathclyde. the forecast started cloudy but that is breaking. for some of us it will be warm sunshine we are looking at. high pressure is still in charge of the weather and things are stagnant at the moment.

we have a weather front moving up from france bringing showers across south—west england and the channel islands. the cloud across southern scotland, northern england, the midlands, lincolnshire, will move west and then it will break up later across cumbria and northumberland, so you will see sunshine. a lot of sunshine across scotland. the outside chance of a shower in the north—west. in northern ireland, a sharp shower possible in the north—west. cloudy in eastern counties. in the south, lengthy sunny spells. if you are out today, uv levels are high, or very high across much of the uk. in the evening and overnight you will find more cloud coming from the north sea. and the weather front coming from france will introduce showers across the channel islands and

southern counties of england and some could be heavy, possibly thundery, particularly in the south—east. at the same time, fog forming across scotland and temperatures between 8—13. tomorrow we should use the fog quite rapidly. the weather front will take cloud and showers across parts of southern england and south wales. they are showers and not everyone will catch one. equally you could catch a shower in northern ireland but sunny spells between and cloud pushing back to the far north—east of england. away from that, dry weather and sunshine. by the time we get to friday, again, fairly cloudy and an element of doubt as to how far the showers will travel northwards but we think they will get into south—west england, possibly the midlands and south wales. hello it's wednesday, it's 10

o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire... one in eight women will develop breast cancer in their lifetime, according to cancer research uk. i've been to meet two women who wrote to us to say that watching a programme i took part in called the real full monty — that encouraged women to check their breasts — led them to doing just that.. dear victoria, i want to thank you for saving my life. i've watched the full monty programme, checked my breasts and found a lump under my nipple. dear victoria, i just wanted to say a heartfelt thank you for participating in the real full monty. without you being on the show and talking about your experience, i may never have made the appointment to see my doctor. and on the programme after 10:30, we will show you how

to check your breasts and exactly what to look out for. inside the world of girls in gangs. more girls and young women are increasingly involved in gangs and carrying or hiding illegal drugs and weapons. that's according to a report out today. just, like, holding knives in my house for people, holding a big amount of drugs, etc. guns and everything. people back in the day that i used to talk to, they are very, very violent people. a lot of them don't even take no for an answer. we'll talk to a woman who joined a gang at the age of 13. guatemala's volcano of fire has erupted again causing further panic and hampering the relief effort. 75 people have been confirmed dead with nearly 200 missing. workers were breaking the tin roofs of the home trying to access these

homes in search of bodies. by this point, it's highly unlikely there will be any more survivors found, but who knows. rescue workers are still working very hard. here's joanna gosling in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today's news. a computer failure that locked 1.9 million tsb customers out of their online banking services is being investigated by the financial regulator. the financial conduct authority has also criticised the bank's chief executive, accusing him of being too optimistic about the bank's services after a major systems overhaul left customers struggling to carry out transactions or access their accounts. here's our personal finance correspondent, simon gompertz. it's more than six weeks since tsb customers found they couldn't get into their accounts. now the service is working better, but it's still unstable and 40% of the time people can't get help on the phone. the pressure is piling up

on the chief executive, paul pester, who took the ill—fated decision in april to move millions of customers' accounts to a new system and is directly criticised now by the financial regulator. in a letter to the treasury select committee, the fca says at the height of the crisis, paul pester gave mps an optimistic view of services, which was too positive. and to customers, the bank was not open and transparent, claiming the vast majority could use their online accounts, when only half could. there's particular concern about an increase in customers impacted by fraud. not all of them receiving refunds from tsb as quickly as they're supposed to. today, tsb's directors will face intense questioning from mps on the failures. the bank says it's completely focused on restoring operations to the level customers expect and making sure they're not left out of pocket. simon gompertz, bbc news. authorities in guatemala say that nearly 200 people are missing after the eruption of the fuego volcano on sunday, which spewed lava and burning debris

onto villages nearby. a second eruption yesterday prompted further evacuations of resident in the surrounding area and hampered rescue efforts. the number of confirmed deaths has reached 75. theresa may is to hold talks in downing street today with the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu. mr netanyahu has been visiting leaders across europe to discuss how to limit iran's nuclear capabilities. he supported president's trump's decision to pull out of an international accord last month, a move which was condemned by britain, france and germany. labour says the eu would be willing to do an economic deal linking britain closely with the single market after brexit. the shadow brexit secretary, sir keir starmer, told the bbc that the issue of free movement of people would be part of the negotiations. full access to the internal market means the benefits of the single market, which has always been the labour party position. 0bviously that comes with obligations, and that's why

we have said it has to be underpinned by shared institutions and shared regulations. and free movement? free movement would have to be negotiated. we would have to set up what we seek to achieve and the eu is looking for movement itself, and it would be part of the negotiation. an australian woman has died after contracting hepatitis a from a packet of frozen pomegranate. health authorities said the 64—year—old died in south australia last week in a "rare and tragic" case. australians have been urged to check their freezers and discard packets of the frozen fruit. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10:30. thank you for your messages this morning. this is from violet who works from the nhs. talking about breast cancer, she said she was moved to tears watching a programme today. i think it's the link you have invited a consultant on to the

programme to demonstrate how to check your breasts and i'm amazed that many women don't know how to do it. my best wishes to the two women on your programme. three think tanks have written to the government today to suggest the nhs in england needs a further £6 billion per yearfor the foreseeable. caroline elliott on twitter says that she has lived in france last ten years, an excellent system, the state pays a certain amountand system, the state pays a certain amount and the rest is contributed to by citizens. but those who are old or poor have 100% of funding was the another viewer says they did not believe the message about the red

bus before brexit. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. sport now with tim. andy murray says he hopes to be back from injury in time to play at wimbledon — but has delayed his return to action for now. murray's been out for almost a year with a hip injury, and had planned to play in the netherlands next week, but has decided not to. 0ur tennis correspondent russell fuller has more... andy murray says he's not quite ready to return but still says he is aiming to play in the coming weeks, which doesn't give too much away. the next event he could feature in is at queen's club in just under two weeks' time. the question is, does he have long enough to get himself in the sort of shape required. murray has not played on the tour for nearly a year. he had hip surgery onjanuary for nearly a year. he had hip surgery on january eight. for nearly a year. he had hip surgery onjanuary eight. he returned to the practice courts for around three weeks from late march but the hip problem flared up again and it's only in the last few days

he has got back on the practice courts after five weeks on the sidelines. it seems difficult to make a case for him being truly competitive during this grass court season. perhaps of greater significance for andy murray is how the hip will respond when he starts to up his intensity, playing practice sets against other atp players. that'll give us a better indication of what his prospects are in the long term. murray's old rival novak djokovic is out of the french open — the 12 time major winner was beaten by the unseeded italian marco chechinatto. djokovic seemed to struggle with a shoulder issue during the match and wouldn't confirm that he'd play at wimbledon afterwards. sergio ramos, the man who has upset most liverpool fans in the last couple of weeks, is continuing to do so. the real madrid captain was blamed for injuring mo salah's shoulder in the champions league final, and has had his say now... he is saying that salah fell on the

opposite arm so ramos couldn't have caused the injury. ramos added that the egyptian could have played if he gotan the egyptian could have played if he got an injection in the second half. and then on causing loris karius's concussion... and boxer floyd mayweather was the highest earning athlete on the planet last year, but there are no women in the top 100 of the forbes rankings. mayweather, who's fittingly nicknamed ‘money‘, made £205 million from his mega fight with conor mcgregor. serena williams was on last year's list but took time off to have a baby so had lower earnings. the top 100 athletes earned a total

of nearly £3 billion. that's all the sport for now. more girls and women are increasingly involved in gangs, according to a new report today. researchers at london south bank university suggest women and girls often get involved in gang—related criminal behaviour, such as carrying or hiding illegal drugs and weapons, like guns. it says they're exposed to physical and sexual violence which is becoming more prevalent in gang culture according to today's review. in a moment we'll talk to a woman who was the leader of a gang from the age of 13, and to the report's author. first watch this from bbc london's tolu adeoye. the street was kind of my family, kind of thing. all the people that i knew from the gangs, they were kind of like my family, you know. anything i needed, i would go to them. 0r there is someone there for me to talk to. cha ntelle had

a difficult start in life. by 11, she was in care. her parents deemed incapable of looking after her or herfive siblings. by 13, she was involved with gangs. she said she didn't realise then she was being used by the men. just, like, holding knives in my house, holding big amount of drugs, etc. guns and everything. and people back in the day that i used to talk to, they were very, very violent people. like, a lot of them don't even take no for an answer. so, you say no and it is a problem straightaway. i kind of felt not that i had to do it, but i felt trapped. so what we're going to do with you guys is look at identity, confidence, self esteem. this group in croydon supports at risk young girls, building their confidence and empowering them to turn away from dangerous situations. we've protected this teenager's identity. she's also been in care and was involved in what's known as county lines, sent outside london by gangs to sell drugs. i used to run away

when i was 13, 14. i used to go out and link guys. like, meet guys that were older than my age. a lot of guys did take advantage of me because they saw me as, like, young and vulnerable. like, you know, you can make money with me. 0r, like, you could be something. even now, so 32 this year... the group's founder shereeka, who herself got involved with the wrong crowds as a teenager, says girls are often the invisible victims, forgotten in the wider debate about youth violence in london. where it concerns gun and knife crime especially, we focus a lot around boys. but what about the girls? the girls do play a part in a sense of being used to carry weapons and storing drugs, but also the vulnerability to them, where most young girls are gang—raped as part of initiations, or to pay off debts, orjust being passed around by guys. sharica spence ending that report by tolu adeoye.

we can speak now to one of the report's authors, tirion havard from southbank university. and jennifer blake, who used to be a gang member. in fact was the gang leader from the age of 13 to 36. she says she was kidnapped, tortured and raped during that time. she now gives help and support to young people in gangs. thank you for coming on the programme. i wonder if you could put figures on how many girls and women are in gangs now. it really difficult to put figures because of the silence around gangs generally but specifically girls and women in gangs and there in visibility in gangs and there in visibility in gang culture. how do you know there are more in gangs now? 9096 of police forces said they had noticed more girls involved in gangs. and 35% we re girls involved in gangs. and 35% were being sexually exploited. the

reasons why girls getting to gangs, are they different from the reasons that boys do? i think many of the reasons are the same. it's about poverty, it's about having difficult backgrounds, it's about wanting to belong in a community, i suppose. but i think with girls, they are much more... they have an obligation towards their parents very often, so they feel they need to look after their mother, so if mum doesn't have enough money they will go out to get some for them and things like that. 0r some for them and things like that. or they are attracted to the glitz and glamour of crime. jennifer, how did you get involved in a gang? for me, it started off as a battle between and my parents being caribbean and me being british. i

was brought up in a christian background with my parents, but then going outside and then mixing with other individuals. ijust had this mask on and mask off, and in a different world. what attracted you to being in a gang, or did you not have a choice? at the first stage i did have a choice, but then it became a stage where if you wanted to prove yourself, and you wanted to go to prove yourself, and you wanted to 9° up to prove yourself, and you wanted to go up the ranks, and be respected, as we tend to look at it, when you are not really being respected, you will want to do more so you are seen to be that individual that can do these things. what did you get involved with to become leader of the gang? initiatives you go through. knife—point robberies. being a courier of drugs. robbing people. it was only thing that you want to do,

even to the extent you end up sleeping with individuals you do not wa nt sleeping with individuals you do not want to sleep with, so you can feel pa rt of want to sleep with, so you can feel part of it. so you can feel you are wanted and part of that family. your self—esteem just goes completely. can you estimate between the ages of 13 and 36 how many offences you committed? a lot. so... about 13, 14. were you caught by the police? that is how many convictions i have got. numerous times i have been caught by the police. i was not caught by the police. i was not caught by the police. i was not caught by the police in the sense of being a courierof caught by the police in the sense of being a courier of drugs in the sense i was female, that elephant in the room, iwas sense i was female, that elephant in the room, i was not recognise. i could be pushing my buggy down the road and i have k2, the drugs. iwas

utilised because i was less likely to be caught by the police. 14 convictions but many more times you we re convictions but many more times you were not caught. how many do you reckon? for a lifetime from 13 to 36, hundreds. jennifer put her finger on a good point, which is women, girls and women, are less likely to be stopped and searched by police, did you find that? that is one of the strengths that girls offer gangs, the invisibility. if there are police officers around, few —— you are opportunities to search girls. they can dress up, have buggy, they are less recognised by the authorities. you found girls in gangs of vulnerable more to debt bondage. if somebody were to carry

drugs and they are requested by the police, said the drugs were worth £3000, they would be payable to the gang for £3000 and until they pay it they cannot leave the gang culture. how do they pay if they cannot find the money? it is carrying more weapons, drugs, being sexually exploited, having to sleep with other gang members. to perform sexual actss and things like that. we only see young men stabbing and shooting of a young men. from your experience, do girls get involved in the violence as well? you have got girls who are violent and get involved in violence. did you? i did. unfortunately, for me, iwas pa rt of did. unfortunately, for me, iwas part of what they call it the man dem and what they got up to i would

get up to. i was involved with that. the actual violent get up to. i was involved with that. the actual viole nt part get up to. i was involved with that. the actual violent part of it is setting the man dem up. honey traps. you call it honey traps in your report, what would you call it? setting them up. i am going to befriend the next man. let's go out, let's do this, meet me here. even if it is where girls are getting involved in the different gangs and knowing what is going on in the different gangs, they use the girls to do that. what happens to the person when you beat them? they will get beaten up, some of them are stamped. i would get beaten up, some of them are stamped. iwould not get beaten up, some of them are stamped. i would not say none of them was murdered. today it is different, they go beyond hurting someone different, they go beyond hurting someone and take their lives. seeing a young person stabbed or shot, they do not realise how much involved the

girl is behind the scenes and girls are setting up men on a daily basis. when you reflect on decades in a gang, what do you think?” when you reflect on decades in a gang, what do you think? i regret it, because i was a bad role model asa it, because i was a bad role model as a mother, as well, and my children got caught up in it and for me, that is why i give so much back now, said the wrong guy have done, i can help other young people not take that journey. can help other young people not take thatjourney. devastated for can help other young people not take that journey. devastated for the things i have done but now i am able to use what happened to me and be open about what happened to me, not being afraid or ashamed, i can help somebody else. thank you very much. still to come. this is britain's biometrics commissioner. we'll be speaking to him in the next few minutes about fingerprints, facial recognition

and speech recognition. he has quite a lot of concerns. how much university vice—chancellors get in their pay packet has been in the spotlight in recent months, with some earning hundreds of thousands of pounds a year. now, new rules have been published after pressure from ministers. but the main union representing university bosses say they're "woefully inadequate". chris sayers is the chair of the committee of university chairs, which wrote the new code. and sally hunt is the general secretary of the university and college union. welcome. chris says what is new about this code —— chris, what is new about the code? this is a new piece of important guidance for governance and it lays out three

very important principles for universities when they are thinking about setting their vice chancellor's pay and the principles are it has to be fair, appropriate and justifiable. universities have to be able to explain why they set the pay rate they are. it has to be open and transparent. the code goes on to say all of those senior pay decisions must be published and the justification of why the pay is set as it is should be in that publication and that will be done annually. do you think that will reduce the pay of university vice chancellors with this fair, appropriate and justifiable test?” think we will have more confidence in the public that the salaries paid at senior level in universities is appropriate for the roles they are doing. do you have confidence in these rules? the opportunity to

really get to grips with this has been missed. i recognise where chris is coming from in terms of saying they are looking to address concerns we have raised for a long time. if we have raised for a long time. if we take it point by point, fair, will we have the same rules apply to pay negotiations for vice chancellor and senior staff as we do for other members of staff? we do not know because it will be done differently. will we have transparency? we don't know because there is no commitment to have four minutes which has caused tension all the way through. will we have the ability for staff and students, who have been concerned about this, to be a voice on the remuneration committee? we know the answer to that. they will not be other staff members or stu d e nts not be other staff members or students on the remuneration committee, but the vice chancellors, they will allowed to be there. no,

thatis they will allowed to be there. no, that is not true. the code makes it clear that vice chancellors will not be members of the remuneration committee. they will be in the room. they will not have any part in any discussion about their pay. i think there is a misunderstanding about what remuneration committees do. they do not just what remuneration committees do. they do notjust set what remuneration committees do. they do not just set the what remuneration committees do. they do notjust set the vice chancellor's pay, they took about —— talk about senior pay, pensions, wide—ranging issues around remuneration and it would not be practical to have some of those discussions without the head of your institution in that conversation. at the moment, the discussion on vice chancellor pay, they have to leave the room? as soon as the conversation turns to their remuneration they have to be absent and have no part in that conversation. the committees make a recommendation to the board of governors. and that includes members

of staff and students. the full independent governing board who will have to make a decision about whether they accept the recommendation of the committee.” think chris is telling a good story but avoiding what i have asked him. will they have transparent minutes? we have asked repeatedly for students to be members. he is avoiding the point that senior staff pay has been a cause of tension. he knows equal pay is a travesty at senior level and we know that depends on whether you are male as to whether you get higher pay and as to whether you get higher pay and as to whether you are white. this is the committee in any university, he describes as fair, transparent and open, that will carry on doing this, with the vice chancellor in the room. briefly, if you would?

briefly, i am afraid some of that is misinformed. are you saying there is a equality of pay between men and women and their senior counterparts? you know that is not true. please let him answer. let me try to answer those questions. the most important thing is the code and a fundamental principle is it is about transparency and giving people confidence. we say in the code there will be no exceptions, universities will be no exceptions, universities will publish the pay of vice chancellors and senior staff and they will publish an explanation annually about why those salary levels are the way they are. the transparency will be there and the other thing is we will insist universities also publish the pay ratio between the vice chancellor's

pay and median pay of other members of staff in their restitution and where that median pay is significantly above the average, we would expect universities to explain why. thank you. victoria, thank you. that was the chair of the committee of university chairs that has written the code and sally hunter, general secretary of the university and college union. still to come. do you know how to check your breasts ? do you know how to check your breasts? we will show what you should be doing in the programme. a computer failure that locked 1.9million tsb customers out of their online banking services is being investigated by the financial regulator. the financial conduct authority also criticised the bank's chief executive, accusing him of being too optimistic about the bank's services after a major systems overhaul left customers struggling to carry out transactions or even access their accounts.

authorities in guatemala say that nearly 200 people are missing after the eruption of the fuego volcano on sunday, which spewed lava and burning debris onto villages nearby. a second eruption yesterday prompted further evacuations of resident in the surrounding area and hampered rescue efforts. the number of confirmed deaths has reached 75. a man in the us state of virginia has been arrested after stealing an armoured personnel carrier and leading police on a two—hour chase along public highways. footage shows the tracked vehicle being chased by more than a dozen police cars. according to local media, the pursuit was brought to end when the man, believed to be a soldier, left the vehicle in the state capital richmond, and was tazered by police. no injuries were reported in the incident. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. andy murray is making wimbledon his target, but after nearly a year injured, the former world number one has to pull out of an upcoming

tournament due to a lack of match fitness. his old rival novak djokovic isn't having much fun either. the 12 time major winner is beaten in the french open quarter final by unseeded italian marco cecchinato. sergio ramos continues to upset liverpool fans. the real madrid and spain captain claims he didn't injure mo salah in the champions league final and that the egyptian should have just had an injection if he wanted to play on! and while floyd mayweather tops the list of sports highest earners, there is not a single woman in the top 100 names. this is britain's biometrics commissioner. biometrics include dna, finger—printing both well—established — and state—regulated — biometric technologies. but there are many more biometric techniques being developed that have no regulation.

and that's what paul wiles, sitting here, is worried about. things like facial recognition, voice recognition — and even gait recognition which can help identify someone from the way they walk. who should be able to use this data, store it, and for how long? the government has promised a biometric strategy for later this month. let's talk to mr wiles in his first tv interview ahead of his annual report. also with us alan woodward, a professor of cyber security at the university of surrey. the scottish government is going to legislate to control future biometrics. what do you think are the westmister government's approach to these areas? ifear i fear the westminster government has been dragging its feet on this strategy for a long time. it is coming out in several months, which is good news, but i hope they will

do what has happened in scotland, which is to recognise the very rapid growth of new biometric technology and start moving towards regulating it through law. why does it need to be regulated? for a number of reasons. it may well be in the public interest that we use some of these new technologies. you have discussed girl gangs. anything the police can do that will reduce the danger of peoplejoining police can do that will reduce the danger of people joining gangs police can do that will reduce the danger of peoplejoining gangs or stopping people be victimised is in the public interest. i'm not trying to stop the deployment of the technology. however, biometrics is a very intrusive technology. it knows all sorts of things about us as people. that means the public interest has to be balanced against the intrusion into individual privacy. at the moment, the police themselves are making those decisions. i think, themselves are making those decisions. ithink, like themselves are making those decisions. i think, like dna and fingerprints, the right people to make that decision is parliament. we

elect them to represent us, they are the people who should make that decision. why do you think westminster is dragging its feet?” think simply because they are operating on the past‘s analog speed. i think biometrics speeded have up enormously into digital speed and they are simply not keeping up. i think the scottish government has recognised the problem and is moving to recognise it. are you shocked by the fact the government is not keeping up? we all know what the future is. you would think so. the information we have on dna fingerprinting is not quite five yea rs old yet. dna fingerprinting is not quite five years old yet. that shows how technology has let it ahead of legislation. also the technology leaping ahead, it's not always perfect. we will play a couple of really interesting clips that illustrate the challenges with new biometrics. last year a reporter from bbc click through the hsbc voice recognition security system

with the help of his twin brother. after the tone, please repeat the phrase my voice is my password. beep. my voice is my password. welcome to hsbc advance, the balance of your account is £1.21 credit. i'm off to the bank! i thought it was going to be more than that! and what do you think of that? i'm not very surprised, actually. what everybody needs to understand is the technologies that match voice or face or dna or anything else, they do not say the computer says it's a match. what they say is the computer says, this may be a match. and for that reason, if it's the police using the technologies, they have to look at what the computer has

offered them as a match, or maybe offered them as a match, or maybe offered them as a match, or maybe offered them several possible matches, and they then need to make a decision. what that amounts to is before the police operation relies on any kind of biometric, they need to understand the limitations of that particular biometric and it should be built into the decision—making process. the experiment that both the metropolitan police and south wales police are conducting at the moment on using facial imaging recognition in public places needs to get that right before anything is used operationally. we can play you another clip. this is to do with a vietnamese cyber security firm. they showed the bbc how a mask could be used to unlock the apple iphone tech

x. that is what is known as spoofing, somebody trying to defeat the technology for stock there is an ongoing race between those developing technology and those trying to defeat it. i would hope apple have now close that particular spoof but it will go on. the police need to be very careful and understand those risks because we don't want innocent people being arrested by the police. which is the key thing. alun woodward, thank you for your patience. as biometric technology advances, police forces use it more and more. what impact could it have on our privacy, arresting the wrong person, for example. i couldn't agree more than with the commissioner. that's the big concern, the privacy. ithink it's not so much the biometrics themselves, it's building databases of them that is the problem, and who then has, as you say at the top of then has, as you say at the top of the piece, who then has access and

for what purpose. at the moment, the technology is moving on so fast and we are onto second—generation biometrics, and the law hasn't kept up. it talks about dna fingerprints, but it is silent on facial recognition and things like that. it has already happened in somewhere like china, for example, where criminals have been picked out from a crowd and arrested. you would think, that's great, it sounds like a very laudable thing to do, pick up criminals if they already wanted. but of course in doing that, they are scanning the rest of us. and if they keep that data, how long will they keep that data, how long will they keep that data, how long will they keep data for? people in these debates often say, if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear. but the problem is, how long do you keep the data? regimes and governments can change and the data can be put to different usesin and the data can be put to different uses in the future than it is now. we saw previously, there was the

regulatory investigatory powers act, that has since been superseded, but to my mind it was being abused by local officials, gaining access to information they shouldn't have access to. minor offences like dog fouling. we have to get something into law, so we can rely on policy. the commission has to have something against which to test compliance, for example. the government will be coming up with their biometric strategy later this month. thank you to you both for your time. next, we're going to show you how to check your breasts to look for any changes that might be symptoms breast cancer, with the help of a breast surgeon from the royal marsden hospital and a mum called jo edwards, who admits she doesn't check herself enough. the reason is because earlier this year i took part in an itv show called the real full monty: ladies night.

along with seven other women whose lives had been touched by cancer, we stripped off on live tv to encourage other women to do their own breast examinations. six weeks later, maren marshall and margaret witts, two women who had never met, wrote to this programme with their touching stories. here's a bit of what happened. earlier this year, i took part in a show called the real full monty: ladies night, alongside seven other women whose lives had been touched by cancer. i bared all on prime—time television. the aim, to get women to check their breasts. tonight, there might be someone watching who learns something about breast cancer that they didn't know before and it potentially might save their life. now, that is massive. weeks later, i received two e—mails from women who had donejust that. both had discovered a lump. both had breast cancer. maren had surgery to remove a cancerous lump in her breast five days ago.

i'm taking her to birmingham to meet margaret for the first time. hello, margaret, how are you? you're looking gorgeous. no more gorgeous than you, my dear. this is maren. hi, pleased to meet you. margaret is 86. after watching the real full monty: ladies night, she did check her breasts, realised her nipple had inverted, and there was a lump beneath it. next week, she's having a mastectomy. i got myself a nice big glass of sherry and i sat down and put my feet up on my recliner. put a blanket over my legs, and i'm looking forward to the next day, because that was when i had family coming, good friday. i watched the programme. i laughed and i cried. i cried with you! and then at the end of the programme, it flashed up, now, ladies, go check your breasts.

and i thought, well, i will perhaps do that. but when i woke up in the morning, this flashed across my mind. i read it there in front of me, check your breasts. so when i had my shower, i stood in front of the full—length mirror, and there it was. that one was much shorter than that one. this is the bad one. the nipple had gone right up half inside. i thought, ooh. i started to feel around my nipple and their was this craggy feeling lump. total disbelief. you said you had found you had an inverted nipple and your breast had gone flat. and that's when you had the alarm bells ringing, like i did. i've always had an inverted nipple, but it was slightly more inverted than previously. when i don't wear a bra, i'd noticed that i had a significant dip, whereas before it was quite flat.

so i went to my doctors. can i ask you both, what if you hadn't checked yourself? i would have been none the wiser. i would never have thought to go under my nipple to find a lump. and i never would've noticed a difference because i wouldn't have stood in front of the mirror. it's amazing, what you did. we both did something about it. and i don't believe that if... that i would have done something about it. and i'm going to throw it back at you. so, how does it make you feel, knowing that what you did has had this effect on us? oh, that's a really hard question. sorry. that's a really good question. so i'm really sorry that you have and have had breast cancer, i'm really sorry, obviously.

but i'm also really glad that you took the message from the programme and you checked yourselves, which is what we wanted. and, ok, you found something, but actually i think thank god you did. your cancer is now gone because of the lumpectomy. the lumpectomy has removed that. so that tumour is gone, which is amazing. yours very soon will be gone. yes, it will. and then you will find out if there is any further treatment, hopefully there won't be much more. you don't know. that's what the oncologist will tell you. and then hopefully you get on with the rest of your life, don't you? yes, what's left of it. i would like to say to you, good luck. thank you. loads of love, loads of strength. you know you've got it in you, you know that. i would like to say to you, you've done it. i mean, that is amazing.

i'm out the other side. well done. astonishing, astonishing. and we're here for each other when we need it. yes, thank you. thank you for being there. no, don't be daft. thank you. come on, let's hold hands across the table. thank you very much, victoria. no worries. good luck to margaret whose surgery is next week. well here to tell us how to do those all important checks isjennifer rusby, a consultant oncoplastic breast surgeon from the royal marsden. and jo edwards, who has kindly agreed to be our willing model this morning. she is a mother of two from

amersham. do you check yourself anyway? i do, amersham. do you check yourself anyway? ido, but amersham. do you check yourself anyway? i do, but not enough. i should do it more often. it should be every month and i definitely do not do that, with a busy life. it is not do that, with a busy life. it is no excuse, though. it is like most people. before we demonstrate, describe what women and men should look out for when it comes to examining their breasts. the most common symptom is a lump, painless lump, but there are many things we should be looking for, changes in the nipple. a colleague said she had an inverted nipple for a long time but some things have changed. we are looking for puckering of the skin, rashes, and a nipple discharge which you might notice on the inside of your bra. when is the best time to do it? it is important to do it

monthly and methodically. i say to women still having periods to do it in the week after their period because that is when the breasts are at their easiest to examine. for women not having periods any longer, the best time is on the first of the month, so you do not forget. ok, you will show us how methodically we do a breast examination. in the privacy of your own home you would be topless. stand in front of a mirror ina good topless. stand in front of a mirror in a good light and raise your arms above your head and down again. you are looking for that the breasts should match roughly. some people have a symmetry but if you notice any skin pulling in or nipple changes, rashes, pulling back, those are the key signs. the examination

with your fingers. it is important to feel with the flat of your finger rather than the tips. if you use the tips, you will find most breasts are lumpy, lumpiness rather than a lump. we are looking for a lump and we do it with the flat of the hand. think of the spokes of a wheel. starting one place and press reasonably firmly, all the way round, following the spokes. a lot of women examining themselves briefly in the shower but are not engaging in what they are feeling. some women would say they do not know what they are looking for but the key is to do it regularly, so you get used to watch your breasts feel like. women are their own experts on their breasts. they come in all shapes and sizes and you will always be better at checking your own rather than someone checking your own rather than someone checking you. you have gone

around ina someone checking you. you have gone around in a circle methodically like following the spokes of the wheel. do not forget around the nipple. the breast, it also extends to the armpits, so feel that way and then do the same on the other side. if you do it with your arm above your head, reclining on a bed, in the shower, it will spread out the rest issue say you are not feeling through so much depth each time.“ you do feel something, in most cases it will be nothing? correct. one in ten ladies who come with the symptom have cancer, nine get good news. if you find a lump it needs to be checked to see what it is. it is more likely to be a benign lump, but it is important. if you find something, you get it checked out. if you happen to get a breast cancer diagnosis, the earlier you find the lump, the better the chances of

treatment and ultimately survival? correct. i have said it all. the other point to make is that rest pain, which women worry about, is rarely a symptom. pain in isolation isa rarely a symptom. pain in isolation is a fact of female life, but if you have pain, examine yourself for what we have been talking about and if you have a lump, it should be checked out. jo, thank you. anne is a viewer. you sent an e—mail to say you are currently going through chemotherapy for breast cancer. did you used to check yourself? i did quite regularly, monthly, and that was how i noticed the change. what did you discover? i had some puckering on

the right side, which initially did not worry me too much, but i thought i had best get it checked out and it turned out to be cancer. how did you react to the diagnosis?” turned out to be cancer. how did you react to the diagnosis? i was shocked, worried, and my sister had breast cancer three years ago, so half of me was it could be, it might not be, but i was prepared it possibly could be. and how are you? iam very possibly could be. and how are you? i am very well at the moment. i have done four rounds of chemotherapy and have two left. thankfully the side—effects have been kind. i have not felt too bad. hopefully i would like to make future breast cancer sufferers, to think that chemotherapy, while it can be awful, it does not have to be, and ifeel quite well. that is good to hear. and you said in the e—mail that you watched the real full monty and you

fancied having a go yourself. to bring awareness to other people. if ican make bring awareness to other people. if i can make one person checked themselves and have an early diagnosis, that would be great. you have been an inspiration and i am reading your book and it is great. your story is similar to mine. continued success with your recovery and thank you for your lovely words. take care. thank you for giving us so much time this morning. i have some messages from you. this is from serena. i discovered i had breast cancer a year and a half ago and am now 0k, cancer a year and a half ago and am now ok, i had an operation and i'm doing follow—up treatments. as soon asi doing follow—up treatments. as soon as i got better i tried to help other people with the same problems. if you are a cancer patient, do not

be afraid to share your story. your experience is important and can help people facing similar difficulties. together we are stronger. lorna said, iam together we are stronger. lorna said, i am watching your programme for the first time and would like to say thank you for the inspiration and hope your programme is providing for breast cancer awareness. i am a breast cancer survivor and currently experiencing challenges having returned to work without sufficient reasonable adjustments. is this something you can cover in future? helen said, what a tear—jerker on your programme. 21 years ago my husband insisted we had health checks and i thought it was silly. i had the tests which included a mammogram andi had the tests which included a mammogram and i had a link —— a malignant lump. 21 years on, and i am still free of breast cancer.

thank you. if would like more information about breast cancer you can find lots information at bbc.co.uk/action line. still to come. the enquiry into the grenfell fire. the enquiry into the grenfell fire. the latest before 11am. yesterday mps debated whether to lift the ban on abortions in northern ireland — the only part of the united kingdom where abortion is outlawed. pressure for reform has increased after a referendum in the irish republic last month voted to change the law. it was an emotional debate during which the conservative mp

for cambridgeshire south, heidi allen shared her own experience of abortion. iama i am a modern and progressive woman in this country and i am proud of this country is my home. as a woman who believes in the individual‘s right to determine their destiny. as a woman elected to be the member of parliament for south cambridge, in the 21st century, who stood yesterday to support the member for walthamstow‘s request for this debate. because she is standing up for all the women in the uk. but mostly because i have been there, i'm making it my business. the irish referendum result spoke volumes about how people in southern ireland felt. they wanted change and they voted for it decisively. how can it be that northern ireland will soon be the only part of great britain and ireland where terminations are, to all intents and purposes, outlawed? i was ill when i made the incredibly hard decision to have a termination. i was having seizures every day. i was not even able to control my own body, let alone care for a new life.

so, mr speaker, are you seriously telling me that in a civilised world, rape, incest, or a foetus that is so sadly deformed that it could never live, are not sufficient grounds for a woman to have the power to decide for herself that she should not make that decision? no, enough. very suddenly and unexpectedly we have a window of opportunity before us. whether you feel that window has opened as a consequence of no functioning devolved administration in northern ireland, or because a neighbouring referendum was so close and so relevant as to be impossible to ignore, or simply because you feel the glaring light of equality and human rights illuminating the women of northern ireland. this has become their moment. and they will have my unequivocal support. the inquiry into the grenfell tower fire that killed 72 people will hear first—hand accounts this morning of how it started. 0ur reporter tom burridge

is at the court. what we expected a? already this morning we have heard from the barrister representing behailu kebede, who lived in flat 16 on the fourth floor, where the fire began. his barrister said it was an opportunity to set the record straight and said behailu kebede acted promptly when he saw smoke coming from the area behind his fridge freezer and dialled 999. he alerted neighbours on his floor to get out, and sat outside the building, stood outside, helplessly looking up in despair as the flames spread via the cladding. he set the record in terms of stuff he said was said in the press about behailu kebede. he said there was a lot of garbage and an article in the daily mail that is said to have scapegoated behailu kebede. the

press footage had forced his family to move and affected his health. he said his fridge freezer was five yea rs said his fridge freezer was five years old. nobody had tampered with it or tried to fix it since it was bought and he said accidents and fires started by fridge reasons are not uncommon in the uk. he spoke about a theme we heard about yesterday, the corporate silence a p pa re ntly yesterday, the corporate silence apparently of companies involved in the refurbishment of grenfell tower. he said they have no desire to engage with the enquiry, that they we re engage with the enquiry, that they were being juiced, that they were basically trying to hide around the complexity of the refurbishment and contracts involved. you talked about theissue contracts involved. you talked about the issue of race and class and the idea it was no coincidence this tragedy was allowed to happen in one of the richest borrowers in london ina of the richest borrowers in london in a tower block where predominantly poor people live and mainly from

minority backgrounds. there will be more from tom from the enquiry throughout the day on bbc news. a couple of messages to finish. dave said a lovely film with margaret adams maren. and another said well done to the full monty ladies about the importance of checking. bbc newsroom live is next. back tomorrow at 9am. have a good day. good morning, most will have a dry day with plenty of sunshine. there is one big exception across parts of eastern england. low—pressure continuing to bring cloud from northumberland to lincolnshire and at times the north of norfolk

looking cloudy. most areas will have sunny skies and it will feel pleasa ntly warm sunny skies and it will feel pleasantly warm in the sunshine. peaking at 24 degrees for london and the south—east. showers popping up through the afternoon and also in western counties of northern ireland and thick cloud bringing showers into the channel islands. 0vernight showers pushing northwards. we will see cloud across southern counties, threatening showers. the cloud coming back across eastern england and areas of scotland. in the countryside in the west, temperatures getting into low and single figures. tomorrow, more of the same, sunny skies for most but further showers in southern parts of the uk. this is bbc news, and these are the top

stories developing at 11. tsb is being investigated by the financial regulator — after a computer failure that saw nearly two—million customers lose access to online banking — the bank's boss will appear before mps for a second time today. it is unacceptable when tsb is through this issue and we are on our knees, we will get up and come back fighting. the grenfell inquiry hears that the occupant of the flat where the fire started acted "quickly and instinctively" on the night. the shadow brexit secretary admits there's "very divided views" within labour about whether to remain in the european single market. how do we leave and what the new arrangement should be was not