have never been will be a tragedy. i have never been there but i know the building because it is internationally famous. 35 million, do you think that should come from art lovers, donations or should it be coming from the government? and maybe that money that would have been used going into something like bobbies and boots on the ground. that is the trouble when you talk about where should it come from? should it come from wealthy philanthropists perhaps? we were talking to a professor of architecture and he said, idoubt professor of architecture and he said, i doubt it can be saved. they are saying because the very stone, the very fabric of the building has gone, that is the problem. there is damage from the last one. thank you very much. are you coming back? we might! go on! that's it for the papers this hour. penny and owen will be back at 11.30 for another look at the papers. now on bbc news, it's time for meet the author. a tumultuous marriage.

two writers driven by passion is that bring them together, then pull them apart, as europe slips towards war. paula mclain‘s novel love & ruin tells the extraordinary story of martha gellhorn and ernest hemingway, each born with a gift for words, thrown together in the chaos of the spanish civil war, and hopelessly in love, but driven too by individual passions that couldn't survive the marriage. a novelist and a journalist who wanted each other, but needed even more to be themselves. welcome. we are talking here about a tempestuous marriage, i think, to put it mildly.

let's talk about the two characters. let's leave hemingway to one side, for a moment. if we can! martha gellhorn, who became a journalist absolutely cut from original materialfor the rest of her life, just describe what she was like in the 305. in the 19305, so she met hemingway in 1936, and he was about to go off to the spanish civil war. see, it's impossible to leave him to the side, he won't be left to the side, and that was really her first war and she was 28—years—old. for the rest of her life, she found her true calling as a storyteller and her voice as a journalist and then she went on to be one of the most significant war correspondents of the 20th century, and had a nearly 60 year career as a journalist. a large part of the book takes place in spain, and at one point, we're listening to gellhorn‘s own voice, she says that she's been in madrid for three weeks, and it feels as if she's been there for years, because of the intensity. she lived in the hotel florida,

along with most of the other foreigners in madrid at the time, and it was a mile‘s walking distance from the nearest front. madrid in that time, spring 1937, had been besieged by franco's army for months and her hotel was being shelled nearly every single day. this is how she came of age. we are talking of course about the spanish civil war, but with the shadow of the world war already hovering over europe, and the whole atmosphere of your book, telling the story of this stormy romance has that sense of a wartime story. yes, the shadows were falling all over europe. i think what made gellhorn incredibly angry at the time, was the larger world and critically the states, nobody seemed to understand how spain's plight affected all of us. but anybody who was image read at the time knew that this was maybe the last chance to stop fascism where it stood, and franco was forming these terrible alliances

with hitler and mussolini and of course we know that terrible story. and yet, of course, this is not a story about politics primarily or states at war, it is a story about two people and their minds and their passions. hemingway is such an extraordinary character. it's very difficult to imagine how anybody could live with the man! it does matter too though, that she fell in love with him in this. can you imagine the intensity of this situation, to be at war and it was such a noble war, and she was maybe coming alive for the first time to her life's purpose, and of course falling in love rather disastrously with a married man. she was coming awake to herself and also incredibly i think impressed by him, under those circumstances, the way that he taught her what a war was. she could not help herself. as the story progresses, i think we all recognise the way that you tell the tale, that it is doomed

from the beginning. i think probably because they were too much alike, and everything that he admired about her from the very beginning, her conviction, her social conscience, her passion, her intensity, her independence, all of those things, once they later married in 1940, he was threatened by those things, because of course he wanted her to be his wife. and he wanted her in the end to be subservient, and it was his talent which was to prevail, although he might have tried to persuade himself from time to time that that was not true, that was the truth. he had to prevail, didn't the? he had to prevail, didn't he? i think he did. if i was going to psychologise him, which i think is now my second job, psychologising ernest hemingway, i think a lot of that had to do with his own parents' marriage. his mother, in his mind, had way too much authority in his parents' marriage. his father committed suicide when he was 29 years old. he blamed his motherfor that.

he never forgave her... and of course he went the same way. he went the same way. but in his mind, if a woman had too much control, notjust in the marriage or in the home, but in his own heart, he felt too vulnerable. it is a psychologist‘s dream, or a psychiatrist‘s dream i suppose, seeing these two trying to live under the same roof, knowing that it probably couldn't last and they might as well enjoy it? their love letters though from that time are so, so intense and they really do prove that they loved each other deeply, but understood each other. i think that the thing that drew them together, this intensity helped them in the beginning cement a bond that later would unravel, for the same reasons that they both had these enormous personalities and kind of a hunger for the intensities of life. what a story to tell. they say only trouble is interesting and there was plenty of trouble for them.

but their love relationship to me is so, oh, it tells the story for the modern age, too. we all want to have it all, to be able to have a career, but also love and family, and they really wanted the same things. how did you go about trying to tell the story? why did you choose the point of view that you had chosen, and how did you get the voice? well, her point of view was the one i was interested in from the very beginning. i never thought i'd write another book about hemingway, and yet i had this dream a couple of years ago where i was fishing. literally? literally a dream. i was fishing with hemingway in the gulf stream and he was up on the flying bridge and looking ratherfabulous, but then i noticed there was another woman on board, and as i watched in the dream, a marlin crested out of the gulf and this woman put a piece of bait in the fish's mouth. and when she turned and faced me it was martha gellhorn, and when i woke up the next morning

i was kind of struck and wondering if i had been given some sort of a sign and i googled her. i googled her over a coffee the next day, and of course i had done all this research on hemingway. i knew who she was, but i did not know who she was. i didn't know the arc of her life and her accomplishments, and so it was really her. i became obsessed with her. i understood that even though i had written about hemingway 19205, that this was a very different character. the world was a much darker place and i just wanted to fall into the whole storm of it. she became a great writer and journalist in the course of her long life. she was also a woman of great pa55ion5 as you have explained. what is it about her that makes her a special subject as a central character in a novel? i think she was a true original. i don't know if there was anyone like her who ever lived. the fact that she was probably born with this intensity, that couldn't really be quenched by life, took on all kinds

of great adventures, travelled to over 60 countries in her life, published 1a books. her point of view is i think so interesting and so fresh, and she still has things to teach us, the fact that as her own woman, she had all of these extraordinary adventures, for instance, when she took on that first war. she met hemingway, he was going over to madrid, she wanted to go and bear witness to this war. she had no credentials, she had no formaljob, and so what she did was write an article for vogue magazine. they paid her $300, and then got over to france, and then crossed the border from france to spain on foot, alone in the middle of the night with $50 rolled up and tucked in her boot and a map and no spanish. and this fake letter that she had bagged from an editor friend in new york saying martha gellhorn is a special correspondent for a magazine. she was nothing of the kind. she lied her way over.

she just went over on pure nerve. in other words, it is notjust a story about talent, it is a story about courage. about courage and something else. something more like i don't know, chutzpah, grit. we know it when we see it. yes, we know it when we see it. paula mclain, author of love and ruin, thank you very much. thank you. saturday's weather was a little hit and miss. it will be mostly overcast day with a bit of sunshine here and there. overnight we will see the clearest skies moving in. this will be right on top of fast during the course of sunday. as i say, there will be a little bit of sunshine

around. here is the forecast for the rest of the evening and overnight. clear spells developing. it will be quite chilly in scotland. in the south, a bit milder. here is all that cloud behind me that is ready to race in. the winds will be freshening as well. this is a weather front. there are spot on foot of rain. there is some. it will be affecting coastal areas. possibly a few spots of rain in northern ireland and the lake district. by the end of the afternoon there should be some brightness closer to the north sea coast and also not the scotland. the pollen levels are pretty high on sunday. they are lowering across the west. but is because we are getting fresher atla nta because we are getting fresher atlanta quins. this is the weather map for monday. no pressure is close to iceland. —— atlantique winds. we

will see milder or warmer air coming in from the south. this is monday's weather forecast. a fair bit of cloud across western areas. very windy in the north west of scotland. look at the temperature contrast. that is the trend we are going to see into next week. we will see warmeraircoming infrom see into next week. we will see warmer air coming in from the south. u nfortu nately, warmer air coming in from the south. unfortunately, it will turn, move across england and never reach scotland. in scotland, the temperatures will remain low into next week. in the far south in london, possibly as high as the high 205. this is bbc news. the headlines at 11:00. prime minister theresa may is to set

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