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magnificent. spain were incredible for most of the game and managed not to win. they are the only team that england probably need to be scared off on current showing. sure enough, every world cup tournament there is or the front page that says, here we we re or the front page that says, here we were all, harry's south. it suggests that the years of hurt is about to end. how much faith do you have in them? i think i said it was only more plausible than the brexit dividend. hope springs eternal. there is going to be a brexit dividend and i think we will get knocked out in the first round. my cats work forecasting 3— 02 tunisia. they know nothing about football and neither do they know nothing about football and neitherdo i. they know nothing about football and neither do i. they are an untested team. they are young and they play asa team, team. they are young and they play as a team, apparently. this isjust my home i have done. i am not an expert in football. —— my homework.
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it would be nice to see a tight team play. they do not have any characters on the field, no egos. expectations are not as high but it would be nice to go past the first round. there is a feeling that if england have a strong card to play, they do not have better players who are tiled by failure in past tournaments. perhaps these players are coming out it afresh and do not have that baggage. perhaps that can turn things around for england. as i have said before as a welshman i am ambivalent about whether england win tomorrow night. looking at the opposition so far, they do not have too much to worry about. it has been a very exciting start to the tournament. rooted to the television. you do know who they are playing, don't you? it is tunisia. rob and ruth, thank you so much for joining us. we will be back at 11:30 p:m.. next on bbc news it's
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meet the author. a tumultuous marriage. two writers driven by passion is that bring them together, then pull them apart, as europe slips towards war. paula mclain‘s novel love & ruin tells the extraordinary story of martha gellhorn and ernest hemingway, each born with a gift for words, thrown together in the chaos of the spanish civil war, and hopelessly in love, but driven too by individual passions that couldn't survive the marriage. a novelist and a journalist who wanted each other, but needed even more to be themselves. welcome. we are talking here about a tempestuous marriage, i think, to put it mildly.
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let's talk about the two characters. let's leave hemingway to one side, for a moment. if we can! martha gellhorn, who became a journalist absolutely cut from original materialfor the rest of her life, just describe what she was like in the 30s. in the 1930s, so she met hemingway in 1936, and he was about to go off to the spanish civil war. see, it's impossible to leave him to the side, he won't be left to the side, and that was really her first war and she was 28—years—old. for the rest of her life, she found her true calling as a storyteller and her voice as a journalist and then she went on to be one of the most significant war correspondents of the 20th century, and had a nearly 60 year career as a journalist. a large part of the book takes place in spain, and at one point, we're listening to gellhorn‘s own voice, she says that she's been in madrid for three weeks, and it feels as if she's been there for years, because of the intensity. she lived in the hotel florida,
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along with most of the other foreigners in madrid at the time, and it was a mile's walking distance from the nearest front. madrid in that time, spring 1937, had been besieged by franco's army for months and her hotel was being shelled nearly every single day. this is how she came of age. we are talking of course about the spanish civil war, but with the shadow of the world war already hovering over europe, and the whole atmosphere of your book, telling the story of this stormy romance has that sense of a wartime story. yes, the shadows were falling all over europe. i think what made gellhorn incredibly angry at the time, was the larger world and critically the states, nobody seemed to understand how spain's plight affected all of us. —— particularly the states. but anybody who was image read at the time knew that this was maybe the last chance to stop fascism where it stood, and franco
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was forming these terrible alliances with hitler and mussolini and of course we know that terrible story. and yet, of course, this is not a story about politics primarily or states at war, it is a story about two people and their minds and their passions. hemingway is such an extraordinary character. it's very difficult to imagine how anybody could live with the man! it does matter too though, that she fell in love with him in this. can you imagine the intensity of this situation, to be at war and it was such a noble war, and she was maybe coming alive for the first time to her life's purpose, and of course falling in love rather disastrously with a married man. she was coming awake to herself and also incredibly i think impressed by him, under those circumstances, the way that he taught her what a war was. she could not help herself. as the story progresses, i think we all recognise the way that you tell the tale, that it is doomed
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from the beginning. i think probably because they were too much alike, and everything that he admired about her from the very beginning, her conviction, her social conscience, her passion, her intensity, her independence, all of those things, once they later married in 1940, he was threatened by those things, because of course he wanted her to be his wife. and he wanted her in the end to be subservient, and it was his talent which was to prevail, although he might have tried to persuade himself from time to time that that was not true, that was the truth. he had to prevail, didn't the? i think he did. if i was going to psychologise him, which i think is now my second job, psychologising ernest hemingway, i think a lot of that had to do with his own parents' marriage. his mother, in his mind, had way too much authority in his parents' marriage. his father committed suicide when he was 29 years old. he blamed his motherfor that. he never forgave her... and of course he went the same way. he went the same way.
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but in his mind, if a woman had too much control, notjust in the marriage or in the home, but in his own heart, he felt too vulnerable. it is a psychologist‘s dream, or a psychiatrist‘s dream i suppose, seeing these two trying to live under the same roof, knowing that it probably couldn't last and they might as well enjoy it? their love letters though from that time are so, so intense and they really do prove that they loved each other deeply, but understood each other. i think that the thing that drew them together, this intensity helped them in the beginning cement a bond that later would unravel, for the same reasons that they both had these enormous personalities and kind of a hunger for the intensities of life. what a story to tell. they say only trouble is interesting and there was plenty of trouble for them. but their love relationship to me
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is so, oh, it tells the story for the modern age, too. we all want to have it all, to be able to have a career, but also love and family, and they really wanted the same things. how did you go about trying to tell the story? why did you choose the point of view that you had chosen, and how did you get the voice? well, her point of view was the one i was interested in from the very beginning. i never thought i'd write another book about hemingway, and yet i had this dream a couple of years ago where i was fishing. literally? literally a dream. i was fishing with hemingway in the gulf stream and he was up on the flying bridge and looking ratherfabulous, but then i noticed there was another woman on board, and as i watched in the dream, a marlin crested out of the gulf and this woman put a piece of bait in the fish's mouth. and when she turned and faced me it was martha gellhorn, and when i woke up the next morning i was kind of struck and wondering if i had been given some sort
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of a sign and i googled her. i googled her over a coffee the next day, and of course i had done all this research on hemingway. i knew who she was, but i did not know who she was. i didn't know the arc of her life and her accomplishments, and so it was really her. i became obsessed with her. i understood that even though i had written about hemingway 1920s, that this was a very different character. the world was a much darker place and i just wanted to fall into the whole storm of it. she became a great writer and journalist in the course of her long life. she was also a woman of great passions as you have explained. what is it about her that makes her a special subject as a central character in a novel? i think she was a true original. i don't know if there was anyone like her who ever lived. the fact that she was probably born with this intensity, that couldn't really be quenched by life, took on all kinds
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of great adventures, travelled to over 60 countries in her life, published 1a books. her point of view is i think so interesting and so fresh, and she still has things to teach us, the fact that as her own woman, she had all of these extraordinary adventures, for instance, when she took on that first war. she met hemingway, he was going over to madrid, she wanted to go and bear witness to this war. she had no credentials, she had no formaljob, and so what she did was write an article for vogue magazine. they paid her $300, and then got over to france, and then crossed the border from france to spain on foot, alone in the middle of the night with $50 rolled up and tucked in her boot and a map and no spanish. and this fake letter that she had bagged from an editor friend in new york saying martha gellhorn is a special correspondent for a magazine. she was nothing of the kind. she lied her way over. she just went over on pure nerve. in other words, it is notjust a story about talent, it is a story about courage.
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about courage and something else. something more like i don't know, chutzpah, grit. we know it when we see it. yes, we know it when we see it. paula mclain, author of love and ruin, thank you very much. thank you. well, the weather over the weekend was not especially spectacular. in fa ct was not especially spectacular. in fact it was quite cool. guess what? the weather is set to warm up across the uk. in fact to return to summertime temperatures. that is mostly across southern and central parts of the uk. in the north, across scotland and northern ireland we are expecting the temperatures to remain where they are now. a bit on the cool side with rain in the forecast. at the moment the clouds gives streaming end of the atlantic. this is a warm and sunny weather to the south. we are still in a stream
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of powerful through the course of the night, while one area of cloud drift away gives way to clear skies, another area of cloud pushes in once more. that means the money is looking sunny across many western and northern areas but, through the course of the morning, more cloud will drift in and start to hug the western coasts. i even be light rain and drizzle. if you live in the east the weather should be much brighter here for newcastle, norwich were down to london and central southern england. it will be warm. 2a in london and into the 20s in yorkshire. scotland will be cooler and windier. you can see the warm aircoming infrom and windier. you can see the warm air coming in from the south but it ta kes a air coming in from the south but it takes a bit of a turn and mrs northern ireland and scotland. a weather front separates the warm air to the south with the much cooler air in the north. the. the forecast the cheese they can't we are expecting a weather front to move into the north—west of the country. some rain expected in northern ireland. 25 in london uncomfortably
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into the low 20s across parts of northern england as well. on wednesday we expect the weather front to shift by the south. that means the heat in the south will also be shifting further south. the cooler air starts to win across the northern half of the uk. very fresh with sunshine and showers across scotla nd with sunshine and showers across scotland and northern ireland. the real warmth will be in the far south and the south east. temperatures here on wednesday could get up to about 26, 27 26,27 or28 26,27 or 28 degrees. in 26, 27 or 28 degrees. in newcastle it would be 16 and we will match that in belfast on wednesday. on thursday and friday high—pressure establishes itself in the uk. it will not be quite as hot in the south, typically the low 20s. goodbye. this is bbc news. the headlines: theresa may has faced criticism over
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