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today at 5:00... staying in the uk after brexit — the government sets out plans for how more than three million eu citizens can apply to remain here. ministers say it'll cost applicants £65 and they'lljust have to answer three simple questions. the need to prove your identity. number two, that you live in the uk, prove that you actually live in the uk. and number three that you have no serious criminal convictions. we'll have more details of the scheme and also we'll be looking at what this means for the 900,000 british citizens living abroad in the european union. the other main stories on bbc news at 5:00... the health secretary says lessons must be learned from the gosport war memorial hospital scandal, as relatives of the victims call for a criminal investigation. interest rates are kept on hold but there's speculation they could rise later in the summer. a report finds that the racist murder of an iraqi asylum seeker could have been avoided.
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president trump vows to stay tough on immigration after his u—turn on separating migrant children from theirfamilies. and with nine months to go until the uk leaves the european union, we'll take a special look at how brexit is affecting young people. eu citizens who want to stay in the uk after brexit have been promised there will be a simple process to confirm their status. the home secretary, sajid javid, said the system , which will start in the autumn, will be as easy and swift as possible and he insisted there would be no repeat of the failings in the windrush scandal. this affects the 3.8 million eu citizens
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who are currently in the uk. settled status is likely to be granted to anyone who can prove they've lived in the uk for at least five years and has no serious criminal convictions. there are also 900,000 uk citizens in the eu — both sides of the brexit negotiations have resolved to secure the status of expats by the time the uk leaves the eu in march 2019. 0ur political correspondent eleanor garnier reports. eu migrants coming to the uk at the moment are free to live and work it without a permit. and work here without a permit. but this freedom of movement will end with brexit. instead, eu citizens who want to stay will have to apply for settled status under a new government scheme. we will be looking to grant status as quickly as we can. we will not be looking for excuses at all to not grant status, of course, it will be very sort of driven by the default view that you provide us information and if you are not going to be you provide this information
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and if you are not going to be granted status, there has to be a very good reason why you're not going to get that. to be eligible for settled status, you'll need to have been resident in the uk for five years and arrive before the end of 2020. to apply, you'll need to prove your identity, prove you live in the uk and that you have no serious criminal convictions. the home secretary's insisted he is determined to avoid the mistakes made with the windrush generation, where legal migrants were threatened with deportation. we are making sure that we are using government information, government records in a way that, sadly, we didn't with the windrush generation and other cases, but actually proactively using that information and i hope that sort of message comes through. but eu citizens want more reassurance. there is very little trust in the home office because of the windrush scandal and, also, they need to be able to fill applications, be able to go online, i think there are barriers, basically.
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this is a huge and complex scheme and after the recent windrush scandal, there's enormous pressure to get it right. sajid javid suggested, as the son of immigrants himself, he understands the concerns of eu citizens, but only a system that works smoothly and is up and running on time will give the reassurance that many are looking for. eleanor garnier, bbc news, westminster. our home affairs correspondent danny shaw is here. danny, the message from the government seems to be this will be pretty quick and pretty simple?” think it will be for the majority of applicants, particularly people who are computer savvy and used to doing things online. especially for people who have a history of being here and working here legitimately and their records can be easily checked against hmrc, national insurance number, it will be straightforward.
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but some groups will not find it simple. those people who are not used to accessing applications online but used to paper applications, may find a problem. people working in the black economy, cash in hand jobs, they may not want to apply, they may be weary of getting the authorities involved. there is a technical problem at the moment which the home secretary has acknowledge. the home office has produced a special app which people can use but it doesn't work on apple devices, only on android. but 8 million applications over the next three years, something in the range of 4000, 5000 applications today that officials will have to process. we wonder if the computer systems will be able to cope that? thank
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with you, danny. the health secretary, jeremy hunt, has said a "blame culture" in the nhs has to change to help uncover scandals such as the deaths at gosport war memorial hospital. he said it must be made easier for whistle—blowers to raise concerns, when they see mistakes or bad practice. meanwhile, hampshire police force has said another four should lead the review. 0ur correspondent richard lister in is gosport. mike hobday‘s father, alan, died in gosport war memorial hospital in 1999. he felt at the time that his dad was treated as a nuisance, given drugs to calm him down. now he knows there was no medical justification for the painkillers which ended alan's life. why is it going to take until the autumn to start an investigation? you could start investigating tomorrow. 0k, nothing is going to happen until the investigation goes through, but why can't it start straightaway? so the question asked by these victims‘ families is this.
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when will there be a criminal prosecution of those involved in ending more than 650 lives? hampshire police have acknowledged that this report does contain new information about what happened at this hospital in the i990s, but they haven't confirmed when or even whether the investigation will be reopened. the chief constable, 0livia pinkney, has said it's important that processes are put in place to ensure that all of the relevant agencies come together to enable decisions about next steps to be made in a way that is well considered and transparent to all of the families. but one expert in hospital mortality rates has warned that there is still a culture in which health officials would prefer not to know, when he tells them of potential problems. he says the issues in gosport could exist elsewhere as well. i don't think it's on the scale of gosport at all, or anything like that. but i think that there probably are deaths in hospital that could be avoided, yes.
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yesterday's report held consultants, nurses and all the agencies involved responsible for what happened in gosport, but one key figure has yet to speak. drjane barton, who ran the hospital's prescription regime, was found guilty of serious professional misconduct by the general medical council eight years ago. she is thought to be out of the country, but will be facing serious questions when she returns. let's discuss in more detail, the call by the health secretary for it to be made easier for whistle—blowers to raise concerns, when they see mistakes or bad practice. dr kim holt is a consultant paediatrician, who raised concerns about child protection services in haringey in 2006. she set up the network ‘patients first‘ which works to protect whistle—blowers within the nhs. dr holt is here with me now. thank you for being with us. when you raised concerns, you were a
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whistle—blower effectively, what the repercussions you suffered? the repercussions you suffered? the repercussions were i repercussions you suffered? the repercussions were i was a repercussions you suffered? the repercussions were i was a listen to. it went on for a long time and then i began to suffer a lot of hostility to the point i went off work with work—related stress. then i was on special leave, which is a long—term, keep you out of the workplace scenario. it creates a huge amount of anxiety. my career was under threat, i didn‘t know if i would ever be going back to work and it is very unusual that people in my position do end up going back to work and i did get back to work in 2011, four and a half years after i went on sick leave which is a huge 93p- went on sick leave which is a huge gap. do you think it is common for people who want to raise concerns across the nhs? it varies between departments and institutions.
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through my experience, i became in touch with a lot of health professionals across the board who had raised concerns and found themselves in difficulty. patients first was a campaign group, which we have closed down now. but what we learn through that campaign is the system which is supposed to protect staff isn‘t there and we called for a public enquiry a few years ago which we weren‘t successful with that. but what we did get was a review by sir robert francis, which basically agreed there is a culture of blame, there is victimisation that some people are driven to suicide. i was relatively lucky but a number of people, their careers can be lost and actually what they tried to do is speak up for patients and that is unacceptable that we are
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having that situation still ongoing. it isa having that situation still ongoing. it is a typical example of what goes wrong when staff are not heard. you mingle sport is an example of that? absolutely. we have had the call from jeremy hunt saying you must be easierfor from jeremy hunt saying you must be easier for whistle—blowers to gloat the whistle and raise concerns, how important is that for a decent, modern nhs that staff can freely raise concerns? it is fundamentally important. whistle—blowers and staff who speak up keep the hospital say. there has to be a sea change in terms of how managers and senior leaders within the nhs respond to staff who are raising concerns. they need to start listening and understanding what it is but has been said to them. if they don‘t understand what the problem is, seek advice elsewhere. but one thing that must stop is the victimisation of
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people who are trying to speak up for patients, it is unacceptable. without naming any names, who is doing the victimising? is it people further up the chain? if there are concerns about doctor who is overprescribing, if you are a colleague you could some retribution from your medical colleagues or from nursing colleagues. it could be managers who feel insecure who don‘t understand what the issues are and may start to discredit you. and if it becomes a more serious issue, such as it did in my case in terms of baby p, it could be the top level of baby p, it could be the top level of executives within the organisation. do you think the fact jeremy hunt is saying this must change, is it enough to change the culture, how do we change the culture ? culture, how do we change the culture? how do we give people more confidence to speak out freely? what
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we have found is, although on paper patient safety is a priority for the nhs, we have seen in the last weeks, including gosport, the regulatory system has failed. it has to be, throughout the whole system, it has to be that patients come first and we don‘t think about reputation, it is about what do we need to do to make sure patient care is safe, not worry about whether this particular doctor is going to be embarrassed or this institution is going to be embarrassed. that has to go. it has to be supported within the higher echelons within the department of health and social care. thank you so much for being with us. the bank of england has left interest rates unchanged this month, at 0.5% but its chief economist has become the latest member of the monetary policy committee to say that a rate rise is necessary. later, the chancellor philip hammond will deliver his annual mansion house speech on the state
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of the uk economy. 0ur economics correspondent andy verity is in the city for us. no change right now but a lot of speculation there could be one later on in the summer, maybe in august? yes, if you take the city, the traders, the betting they are making their could be in interest rate rise in august. 65% odds—on that. part of the reason is we have had some upbeat economic data recently. in the first quarter of the year we had a slowdown, the economy only grew by no .1% and in this building behind me in the mansion house they will set out some reasons why they think it is the economy may not be stuck ina more it is the economy may not be stuck in a more permanent slowdown and in a recession. there are those who are confident the slowdown was only temporary. that includes andy
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howell, who you just mentioned and those are not sure and want to wait and see until the data comes in over the next weeks and months and don‘t wa nt to the next weeks and months and don‘t want to anticipate it. so three are gunning for an interest rate and six saying let‘s wait. back at shift if there is more positive economic data. thank you very much indeed. and we‘ll be covering the chancellor‘s mansion house speech live here on bbc news from 8:45pm this evening. this is bbc news at 5:00 — the headlines: the home secretary, sajid javid, says the government‘s scheme to allow eu citizens to remain in the uk after brexit will be a simple process. the health secretary has said a ‘blame culture‘ in the nhs has to change following a critical report into the gosport war memorial hospital scandal. the bank of england holds interests rates — but there‘s speculation over an increase later this summer after the bank‘s chief economist votes for a rise. and in the sport, the world cup
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continues and a contentious decision helps australia earn a draw with denmark. also in group c, france are playing peru and they lead in the second half. it is quite detune from stradivarius as frankie dettori wins the gold cup at ascot. i will be back with more sport at 5:30pm. the murder of a man by a violent schizophrenia patient was a result of racism, and could have been prevented, according to a report by the local safeguarding board. kamil ahmad, who was an iraqi asylum seeker, was stabbed byjeffrey barry in 2016, only hours after he‘d been released from a secure mental hospital. 0ur social affairs correspondent michael buchanan is in bristol. drugged and armed, jeffery barry
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heads towards a neighbour‘s flat. and neither is visible and moments later it would be used in a frenzied attack that killed kamil ahmad. shortly after dismembering the iraqi asylu m shortly after dismembering the iraqi asylum seeker, jeffrey barry called the police. i just asylum seeker, jeffrey barry called the police. ijust killed a man. have you spoken to the crisis today‘s report says kamil ahmad should be alive and a failure to recognise his killer‘s racism contributed to his death. the two man, who both had mental health problems lived in this sheltered complex. there were a number of
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incidents between the men between 2000 2013 to 2016. but the two men we re 2000 2013 to 2016. but the two men were allowed to continue living together at the supported housing complex. barry, obsessed with kamil ahmad because he was a race it, the report said. he was a person with racist abuse and he was mentally ill rather than a mentally ill person with racism as a manifestation of his illness. we can never stop all of the risk, we can never do that. what we can do is try to mitigate against the risk. there are considerable resources, both people and money being spent in bristol. we have a new hate crime and discrimination service that was launched by bristol city council
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last year. shortly before he killed, jeffrey barry had been detained in a psychiatric hospital. but a mental health tribunal, unaware of his history decided to release him. then they failed to plan his discharge. jeffrey barry was out with a sheltered housing provider, given just hours to prepare for his return. the family believe that the head of the trust must consider their position. it was under her watch that these calamitous consequences happen. kamil ahmad came to britain seeking refuge, instead he died at the hands of a racist. let‘s discuss this with professor peter kinderman, head of the institute of psychology, health and society at the university of liverpool and former president of the british psychological society. he joins us from salford.
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thank you for being with us. the circumstances surrounding this man‘s release, barry‘s release, the catastrophic to say the least. some of the key people needed to see if he could be released were on holiday at the time. what are your thoughts about it? i have read the report and what is important in these cases, first of all the information the clinical teams have when making decisions about somebody‘s appropriateness to stay in hospital, their legal status, as in whether their legal status, as in whether the mental health act is legally appropriate, but the circumstances of their case so the teams can work out whether or not hospital is the right place for people. certainly, i think sadly, from what i have mad billy mcclure read in this case, there has been a failure of information and people were making
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decisions without the appropriate information. in the second element, because genuinely not everybody who has mental health problems and not everybody who has history of violence, will remain in hospital. there has to be proper planning for their release. in this case, the planning seems to be chaotic. chaotic with deadly consequences. a catastrophic mistake like this, how common do you think this is in your experience? is this an absolute rarity or do mistakes happen like this? it is a rarity. in all human systems you have people making judgments and you have the services available. not only chaotic decision—making processes, but you have to recognise our mental health ca re system have to recognise our mental health care system is in crisis and has beenin care system is in crisis and has been in permanent crisis. the community systems and arrangements for care that are available for
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people are stretched. tragedies like this, extremely rare. 0ne people are stretched. tragedies like this, extremely rare. one of the m essa 9 es this, extremely rare. one of the messages is, although we can learn from mistakes, the number of incidents of violence involving people who have had contact with the mental health services is extremely low. the public, on the whole, should not be fearful or discriminatory towards people with mental health problems. likely, people with mental health problems are likely to be victims of crime, rather than perpetrators of crime. there are mistakes that are made in any human run system, but violent crimes committed by people with mental health problems are very rare. also, we can learn from it. the systems, the way in which we, as clinicians, have access to information when making important decisions about care, the way we have the time and the resources to
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plan for when people are discharge from hospital, we can see the m ista kes from hospital, we can see the mistakes when that goes wrong. they are very tragic, but they are very rare and we can also learn from them. thank you very much for talking to us. we are going live to the united states. we have some pictures of melania trump at the texas border, obviously after this extraordinary row in the united states about the separation of children from immigrantfamilies, immigrant pa rents immigrantfamilies, immigrant parents and melania trump, wife of the president has been on a damage control mission for her husband, with a visit to a border detention
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facility where children, separated from their parents, have been held. the first lady, we understand, was quite an important factor in pressurising the president to carry out the u—turn on the separation of children from their parents which has caused such an outcry, not only in the states, but across the world. it is understood her pressure was a factor in his decision to sign that executive order keeping immigrant children together with their pa rents. children together with their parents. she left the white house quietly, we are told, this morning. she flew to texas for this visit. donald trump had said his daughter, ivanka trump feels very strongly, my wife feels very strongly about it andi wife feels very strongly about it and i feel very strongly about it. i
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think anybody with a heart would feel strongly about it. we don‘t like to see families separated. that is what donald trump said yesterday. so melania trump‘s visit to texas, the most high—profile public appearance she has made for some time. we will be talking to the vice president of american immigration lawyers later about donald trump‘s u—turn on this issue. specifically about what it means for the 2500 children who have already been separated from their parents and whether the authorities in the united states can actually reunite them with their families and how easy or difficult it is going to be. whether they have sufficient documentation, let‘s listen in.
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iam i am looking forward to meeting the children, but let me thank you for what you do and your heroine quirk that you do everyday. and what you for those children. we all know they are here without their families. i wa nt to are here without their families. i want to thank you for your hard work, your compassion and your kindness you are giving them in these difficult times. i am here to learn about your facility and how you how is children on a long—term basis. i would like to ask you how i can help these children to be reunited with their families as quickly as possible. so thank you again for all that you do. thank you all for what you do, thank you very
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much. do you want to say a few words? absolutely. thank you, first lady, for being here. everyone around the table here can introduce themselves. studio: melania trump, saying she is here to learn, she is in texas at this border detention facility where children who are separated from their parents are being held. she said she is there and to learn and she wants to see these children reunited as quickly as possible with theirfamilies. we reunited as quickly as possible with their families. we have just reunited as quickly as possible with theirfamilies. we havejust had this extraordinary spectacle where the first lady has been publicly going against her husband‘s policies on the separation of immigrant children from their families and was pa rt children from their families and was part of the pressure on him, along
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with ivanka trump, the president‘s daughter, both putting pressure on donald trump to carry out that u—turn. pretty spectacular u—turn in which he signed an executive order effectively abandoning the policy of separation. still, the question remains for a lot of campaigners and immigration lawyers, how those more than 2500 children who have already been separated from their families can be reunited with their parents. quite often they are in completely different geographical locations and there is a question the authorities have all the right documentation that they can reunite these families as quickly as possible. so melania trump being sent, or maybe going on
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her own idea to this texan border detention facility on the texan border. we don‘t have a lot of information on why she has gone bad, but she has felt pretty strongly about this issue. let‘s listen in again. those children, how many times do they speak with their relatives or families are weak, for example? the children are allowed to communicate with their family. they get a communicate with their family. they geta ten communicate with their family. they get a ten minute phone call. we have to make sure the people they are contacting are indeed their family. there is a process and all our policies and regulations make sure we positively identify that the people they are communicating with our indeed their family. that is with a birth certificate and photo identification. so, when the
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children come here, what kind of stage, physical and mental stage they come here? what would you see they come here? what would you see the percentage, how they come here? usually the great majority, usually when they get here they are distraught, with a process of processing them. when they see the environment, they start relaxing. so we make sure we have got them the basic need, showers, clothing, food, and before we even start the assessment, and within 24 hours, our managers in charge, give us an update, that way we know what is
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going on and address it immediately. every department takes time to assess the needs of the child. it's assess the needs of the child. it's a process. yes. but i have heard they are very happy. and they love to study. when the children first get here, there is a process to go through, and orientation they go through, and orientation they go through a 24—hour process, we get as much information as we possibly can from the children, and make sure we're not missing anything. if there is an immediate medical need that needs addressed, and immediate mental health issue, and then we ta ke mental health issue, and then we take it from there. after bk; it "m“ the“; after orientation, they tal; it "m“ the“; after orientation, they go 7,277 7 management, they orientations, case management, they also go through clinical orientation, so that we get an
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understanding of their current placing, and this is to keep them as calm as possible. and to reassure them they are innocent in this, they will be well taken care of here. that they don't have anything to worry about, they are in a safe environment. free from abuse. every day is something new with the children, we provide a lot of structure here, during monday to friday schedule, they attend class, and we try to educate them, tried to assimilate them to what the school education system is going to be like. we also integrate recreational activities, spiritual care for the children, downtime for them, activities, spiritual care for the children, downtime forthem, this activities, spiritual care for the children, downtime for them, this is their home. they refer to these as
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shelters, but it is really a home for the children. this is their house, so their bedrooms are their bedrooms, and as you will see, you will see the children and the smiles on their faces, and you will hear them giggling. it isjust fantastic. the staff that we have here, we just have a tremendous passion for working with these children, we receive them as if they are our own. we do follow all the policies and guidelines, butjust the passion that if they are in working with these children, ensuring that they are safe, and ultimately reunifying them. how long is the time, the maximum time that someone will spend
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here? right now, 42 to 45 days. so, the first lady asking questions of that border protection facility on that border protection facility on that texas mexico border, where children separated from their pa rents a re children separated from their parents are being held, and it follows the u—turn by her husband that it seems she helped bring about. the u—turn on his policy of separating children from immigrant families. she was very strongly against that, and so was the president‘s. river —— daughter ivanka. the question is now how these children can be reunited with theirfamilies. more on that throughout the evening
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here on bbc news. you‘re watching the news at five and we will get the latest sport and world cup action. so another day at the world cup, and another three games... we‘ve had three goals already today — and 0lly foster is in red square to tell us all about them. back—to—back matches today. france are currently playing peru, about 20 it‘s 1—0 to france, killian mbappe with the goal in the first half. peru are throwing everything at them at the moment. if it stays with this, france will reach the last 16.
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denmark have not got through to the knockout stage, that will go back to the last match in group c. they took an early lead against australia, but we have had the 11th penalty at the world cup scored by australian. it finished 1—1. the happiness he would not last too long. there was nothing to see here, but with video assistance, another look. the hand touched the ball, penalty to australia. kasper schmeichel trying his best to intimidate. it did not work. from then on they looked more aggressive in attack. denmark just then on they looked more aggressive in attack. denmarkjust about held on. another late flurry from australia had the danes rocking but they could not find a way through. 1-1, the they could not find a way through. 1—1, the knockout stage still a
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possibility. the last match of the day, a last chance to see lionel messi. argentina really have to get something out of the match against the group leaders, croatia. another tea m the group leaders, croatia. another team sheet faux pas in the england camp. when will they learn? if someone is holding the team sheet and waving it, someone will photograph it. gareth southgate‘s number two, steve holland, was holding it, appearing to confirm what we knew already, that marcus rashford had a chance to comment. delhi alley is nursing a strain. —— ali. the players are saying that they haven‘t been told anything about the starting 11. it is still
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1-0 to about the starting 11. it is still 1—0 to france against peru. as it stands, france will go through to the last 16. kyle edmund is out of this year‘s queens, after losing his second round match against nick krygios. the australian, who beat andy murray a couple of days ago, won the first set on a tie break and despite edmund coming back to take the second, krygios held on to win in three. joint favourite stradivarius has won this year‘s gold cup at royal ascot. the 7—4 shot ridden by frankie dettori and trained byjohn gosden was pushed all the way in the closing stages but held on for a great win as the colt stepped up to 2.5 miles for the first time in his career. we will have more from the world cup later. line thank you very much indeed. melania trump has been visiting a
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detention centre in texas, on the mexico border. let us cross to alan 0rr. here‘s the vice president of the american immigration lawyers association. what is your reaction that the first lady is visiting this detention centre, does this seem like a detention centre, does this seem likea pr detention centre, does this seem like a pr visit from the white house, to talk to the officials
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looking after the children?” believe it is part of the theatre because she is not at the initial border sites where you see the children in cages, she is abbey after stage site, where the children have already been separated. so it is not exactly seeing what is going on, and that is part of the problem, that no reporter has been able to get into the direct facilities of how children are treated as soon as they crossed the border. so it is pretty much theatre. what is your reaction to the president‘s decision, that u—turn effectively, to reverse the policy of separation, that has caused so much outrage? the media is giving the president too much credit because he did not do a u—turn, he did a stunt, signing an order saying they have the discretion to try to do that. if you read the plug on it, it says it is applicable by the law. he asked the attorney general to go back to a court decision that was decided 20
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yea rs court decision that was decided 20 years ago, to have them overturn the holding of that decision so they can require now that the parents and the kids be held indefinitely in these detention centres, and if the court decided 20 years ago this was not the appropriate thing for the welfare of a child, it is most likely not going to overturn, so the president has basically kick the can to thejudiciary, so president has basically kick the can to the judiciary, so that when in fa ct to the judiciary, so that when in fact these families are detained for longer than 20 days and need to release the kid, the president can say it is not me, it is the court letting the separate these families. what about the children who have been separated from their parents, more than 2000, we gather, how easy or difficult will it be to reunite them with their families? we just heard from your own reporting that at the facility they said it averages 42 days, and we not having that same hearing from the attorneys on the ground, but no one knows, because the attorney may be in california and the child is in
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chicago, so we have... 42 days is a long time to be away from your children. how much damage do you think it has two family, a child, separated from parents? irreparable damage to both. we all know what it felt like being separated from our pa rent felt like being separated from our parent ina felt like being separated from our parent in a shop, and how we felt. huge number of voters in the united states clearly do want a tougher policy on immigration, but at the same time we know that the separation of children from their families has been very unpopular, people have found it very distressing. i think the whole concept of there being a tougher sta nce concept of there being a tougher stance on immigration is a fiction in itself. hundreds of thousands of people enter our country every day, soa people enter our country every day, so a couple of thousand people entering at the border of mexico to
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be sorted for a legal process to enter the united states should not bea enter the united states should not be a problem. the crisis is created ona be a problem. the crisis is created on a political background to create political willpower to say you‘re doing something, when in fact nothing is happening. i'm very grateful for your time. nothing is happening. i'm very gratefulforyourtime. good nothing is happening. i'm very gratefulfor your time. good to nothing is happening. i'm very grateful for your time. good to talk to you. thank you for having me. the conservative minister, greg hands, has resigned from the government, in order to vote against plans for a third runway at heathrow airport. greg hands is the mp for chelsea and fulham in west london and says he had promised his constituents he would oppose the scheme. a vote on the proposals is due to be held in the commons on monday. in the last few minutes, george hollingbery has been appointed as his replacement. this is bbc news at five — the headlines. the home secretary, sajid javid, says the government‘s scheme to allow eu citizens to remain in the uk
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after brexit will be a simple process. the health secretary has said a ‘blame culture‘ in the nhs has to change — following a critical report into the gosport war memorial hospital scandal. and the first lady, melania trump has been visiting a child migrant facility on the texas mexico border. she say she is the to learn. with just nine months to go before britain is due to leave the european union, we‘ve been taking a closer look at the impact of brexit on different parts of the population. today, we examine the effect on young people. 0ur correspondent elaine dunkley has been to coventry college to talk to students. they were too young to vote in the eu referendum. for these college stu d e nts eu referendum. for these college students course has been decided to leave the european union. so, in a word to describe how you feel about brexit. whatever the feeling, brexit will have a big impact on their
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lives. in the referendum i would have voted leave. but no more facts have voted leave. but no more facts have come out under way it is going, i really wish people had voted remain. and the future scares me. nobody has told me how it is going to affect me, and nobody has told me how it is going to affect my college life, my career later in life. it is my future that is going to be eight affected, and no one has told me how. how do you think brexit will affect your career? i want to be a midwife that travels around the world, so if we leave the eu, it will cause problems. because then i will cause problems. because then i will have to pay more for a visa to travel to spain. if i were still in the eu, i could go there without having to pay. as we're leaving, we will have to make new allies and trade, rather than going to somewhere like germany or someone
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else that was in the eu, we could make friends with someone else and it could be a place to go. what will be the biggest impact for your future? are used to work from the coventry youth forum, and a lot of that was funded by an eu scheme. they have affected both the youth of today, but i also think it will have quite a substantial effect on the youth that will be around when we leave. there are more than 130,000 eu students in the uk, and more than 40,000 people from britain went to europe on exchange schemes. big questions remain about the impact on education. right now, they are looking at the older generation to make a difference. but i think that it will be us that help in the future to build the economy. , brash and get more jobs future to build the economy. , brash and get morejobs and future to build the economy. , brash and get more jobs and stuff. future to build the economy. , brash and get morejobs and stuff. we have to live with whatever they decide. these young people feel they must be at the forefront of negotiations.
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the hope is for a bright future, the fear is of the unknown. one particular issue affecting young people is the impact on british students who are studying, or planning to study, at a university elsewhere in the eu. chris morris has been taking a look for reality check. we all know that undergraduate tuition fees in britain are expensive, so what made brexit mean for thousands of university students are now choose to study elsewhere in the eu instead? current rules mean eu students can study in any eu economic area, that is the eu, plus norway, iceland and liechtenstein. they can do that for the same fees as local students. so for those countries, uk students can study for free because home students do not pay for fees they are. other countries charge low tuition fees. france, for example, state funded universities charge between 180 600
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euros per year. there can be language hurdles to overcome studying abroad, but many europe —— universities offer courses in english, in germany for example, giving native english speakers and advantage. we not have figures for british people... in netherlands, a couple of years ago there were 2778 stu d e nts couple of years ago there were 2778 students from the uk, that‘s a 20% increase from the previous year. so, the obvious question, what is likely to happen at the brexit? the eu and the uk have agreed that during the post—brexit transition period, from march the 29th until the end of 2020, the rules will stay the same as the ardent —— they are now, and as the ardent —— they are now, and as long as you begin your course
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before then, the fees will stay the same. the working assumption is that the uk student would have to pay the same students from the rest of the to study in the eu or the eea. we can only think two countries that charge no fees at all to international students, germany and norway. as things stand, they could be the only places where uk students could study with no fees after brexit. even in france, international students still pay very little, usuallyjust international students still pay very little, usually just an administration fee, but in the netherlands it can be anything between 6000 and 15,000 euros per year. don‘t forget that eu students coming to the uk would have to start paying the fees british universities charge universe of these students as well. in england that can be fees of as much as 20,000 a year. students to come here in large numbers, more than 130,000 to come here in large numbers, more than130,000 in to come here in large numbers, more than 130,000 in 2016,17, to come here in large numbers, more than 130,000 in 2016, 17, if to come here in large numbers, more than 130,000 in 2016,17, if you include postgraduates as well as
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undergraduates. 0ne include postgraduates as well as undergraduates. one thing we have not discussed if the thousands of stu d e nts not discussed if the thousands of students who travel abroad often for one year courses under the eu‘s erasmus exchange programme. the government said it wants that to continue, and it is prepared to pay into the eu budget for that to happen. we‘re going to discuss what brexit means for young people, with two young people on both sides, femi 0luwole who is the co—founder of ‘0ur future, 0ur choice‘, a group of young people campaigning for what they call a people‘s vote on the brexit deal. and also tom harwood — who ran the national student wing of the vote leave campaign, who opposes a second referendum. tell me what you think brexit means for young people in this country?” think it means what it does for everyone else, that is greater accountability, more democracy and more options the government can take
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in terms of policies that can make is more rich and free going into the future. what would you say to that? i would say young people need two things, we need stuff to be cheap, and we need options. brexit will make things more expensive because we are cutting off our ability to trade freely with our closest trading partner, and secondly options, we currently have the birth rate in living among 31 countries, that cuts off our options. tom, is itfairto that cuts off our options. tom, is it fair to say in the referendum, more young people voted remain than leave ? more young people voted remain than leave? that is true, what is interesting is class breakdown. working—class young people, almost half voted to leave, and 53% to remain. much higher numbers of more middle class or upper class young people voted to remain. as a whole, most people voted to remain. so they
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thought it was in their interests to stay in the european union? they we re stay in the european union? they were also more likely not to vote. so if you look at turnout, it is pretty uncontroversial to say that students and young people would interest in the debate. brexit is happening whether we like it or not, and you do not like it, and what sort of brexit would you like to see that you believe would be l the that you believe would be in the best interests of young people in the country? as i explained before, it cuts off our options. we need jobs, and simply, takesjapan, it cuts off our options. we need jobs, and simply, takes japan, for example, they have said that they saw the uk as an avenue to access the european market, and said they will be pulling out their factories from the uk to the rest of the eu because it makes more sense because they are in a single market. what about new trade agreements with the united states, australia, new zealand, the freedom to create new trade? the fundamental rule of
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economics is gravity, you trade with countries closest to you. even trump, as crazy as he is, chose to leave canada and mexico out of his trade war. whereas we are cutting off our ability to complete in our cheapest and closes market. was a bad economy is services, rather than goods, you can trade in the same language across the internet, gravity is becoming less of an factor. less of a factor, but will a lwa ys factor. less of a factor, but will always be a factor. 10% is non-eu trade, and 10% is 5 not far e ii of eu re-resent the of eu ifs-resent the of eu if we sent the of eu if we want the of eu if we want to and growth, we create opportunities and growth, we need to be world leading. we can be world leading in terms of animal welfare , world leading in terms of animal welfare, financial services... let us address the notion of leading.
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who has been setting the standards regarding data protection? it has been the eu. so much so that companies in america have followed suit. as far as who will be setting global standards, is it going to be the market of 65 million people or the market of 65 million people or the market of 425 million people moving forward? that is the reason why we are looking less than as a nation because of brexit because we will be copying the rules of the eu but will no longer have a say. let us move away from the economy for one moment and talk about education, which we were reflecting on with chris morris. to what extent do you think it will change british students, and educational opportunities leading the eu? for one, being in the eu provides an opportunity to get round an elitist system, we have a system in the uk we re system, we have a system in the uk were about to go to university you need to pay 9200 and 25p, whereas it is practically free in france. ——
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9000 £225. tom, reply to that. none of the data shows this. in the uk we have more people from disadvantaged backgrounds going to university than before because of the structure syste m before because of the structure system that when you graduate you make a good —— a contribution towards your earning. more than that, the uk has four of the top ten universities in the world. we have seven of the top 20 universities in the world, in both of these the eu has none. in the academic sector we are has none. in the academic sector we a re world has none. in the academic sector we are world leading. one of our strongest cards. 0ne are world leading. one of our strongest cards. one of the reasons why we are world leading is because the eu has the horizon twenty20 programme which is a massive funding for research. the uk benefits massively from that, we got 1400 of
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the students... in 30 seconds, why should they be what you call a people‘s vote on the brexit deal, which other people might call a second referendum, which they would say is not democratic? there is an idea that it would not be democratic, that would suggest the people would be capable of undermining their own will. if the people make a decision, and send the government to do a brexit for them, but the government failed, the people should decide. they wanted sovereignty, we are getting less, they wanted an nhs, we are losing doctors and nurses, and they wanted a better economy. they can call it a second referendum, fundamentally they do not like how the first one went, and it is an outrage. all right is! we could debate this alternate. thank you very much for
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being with us. we‘re going to check out the weather prospects now. there is no disagreement on that. ben richards has the details. a pretty good agreement over the next few days. the weather is going to be fine and dry and settled. a lot of sunshine and real warmth and the forecast is well. today, it was not particularly warm, with temperatures topping out at 20 degrees at best. by next week, some spots will hit 30. what we have at the moment is an area of relatively cool air the moment is an area of relatively coolairand the moment is an area of relatively cool air and brisk winds as well. the orange colours moving as we go through the next few days to the south, and that would allow the temperatures to rise. but actually it is going to turn cool and fresh tonight. some sunny spells to end the day, and actually that sunshine will continue for a good couple of hours because it is of course the summer stalls —— solstice, the
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longest day of the year. here are the sunset times. it is going to get chilly under the clear skies, with these green colours across the temperature chart. even in the big times, temperatures 6—9d. some spots in the countryside will get down to three or four. in the countryside will get down to three orfour. are in the countryside will get down to three or four. are cool but not chilly start, but the sun will come up chilly start, but the sun will come up early so that when people are up and about, it will not feel too bad. a lot of sunshine across scotland, the odd spot of rain and breezy in the odd spot of rain and breezy in the north. 0therwise the odd spot of rain and breezy in the north. otherwise the wind is lighter. temperatures are also higher, up to 22 degrees. in the weekend, high—pressure increasingly becomes dominant across the uk, with the pressure moving towards the shore is. we will see some cloud and
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outbreaks of rain over the north of scotla nd outbreaks of rain over the north of scotland on saturday, but a lot of sunshine further south, perhaps hazy at times with some cloud in the sky, with temperatures 17—24d. looking at the weather for a sunday, with temperatures 17—24d. looking at the weatherfor a sunday, will you do not see cloud, we are expecting sunshine, and you do not see much cloud. a bit of a sea breeze will develop close to the coast, so it might feel cooler, with highs of 23 or 24. further ahead into next week, some spots get up into the mid—to high 20s, and some places could get to 30 degrees. today was a little cool to 30 degrees. today was a little cool, but those temperatures are going to head upwards. staying in the uk after brexit — the government sets out plans for more than three million eu citizens if they want
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