in and parliamentary elections. —— presidential. now on bbc news, it's time for dateline. hello and a warm welcome to dateline london, i'mjane hill. this week our major topic for discussion is migration, and how's it's handled across europe and in the united states. plus, as major companies rang alarm bells in the uk, what are the prospects for striking a proper deal with the eu before britain leaves? lots to discuss, and around the table with me this week, the sunday telegraph columnist janet daley, the portuguese writer and lecturer eunice goes,

thomas kielinger, for many years correspondent for germany's die welt. and, from bloomberg news, their senior writer stephanie baker. this weekend, a number of eu leaders are meeting to try to thrash out solutions to the migration crisis. at angela merkel‘s request, france's emmanuel macron, and the leaders of bulgaria and austria are among those exploring how to prevent migrants from moving around the bloc, after they've already claimed asylum in one of the mediterranean states of arrival. this gathering is in the run—up to the imminent full eu summit — but now also comes as immigration dominates us politics. president trump this week did a u—turn on his policy of separating children from their parents, after they cross the us—mexico border, after domestic and international condemnation. let's start with the european situation. something we have been talking about for many years. thomas: chancellor merkel has been under so much domestic pressure, is this mini summit all about that? about her own domestic travails? it is all about that.

that is the origin of this meeting. she was under threat of losing her coalition because the interior minister was threatening to resign if he didn't get his way about stopping asylum seekers at the bavarian german border. he has a point is a certain —— a sense of asylum to in europe going on. people who have been in one country, some say they should stay there and should make that their new home. but the open borders in europe allows them to continue to travel. the first registration country is meaningless, in a sense, because once you have some registration, you can make your home somewhere else. there is the threat of constant migration which is getting too much for individual countries to bear. secondly, europe has

to agree on a solution. angela merkel is in a quandary because she was unilaterally responsible, three years ago, for opening germany's border. now it has become such a problem. she can't continue unless europe comes to her aid. she is going to them saying however this began, i need... i have to suspend disbelief to think there will be any outcome of this meeting this weekend, because the italian prime minister already only came after the jettisoned prefabricated final communiqu statements. you often have a communiqu already written. juncker had a statement already prepared. the italian prime minister said,

"no, i will not come." angela merkel had to promise him they would jettisoned this paper out. eastern countries also boycotted this meeting. they will ask us this issue at the opera summit next week. there is a degree of idea in angela merkel‘s mind that harmonisation has to mean everyone sharing the problem will stop —— the proper summits. they will say, it's not our problem. they are, in most cases, the first port of call. that means that italy have to confront the main problem. the interior minister already said we have 5 million for italian, we can't cope with the impoverished masses of africa. and very high youth unemployment. yes, we have to come together but it is easier said than done. we probably have to improve the regime outside libya's

coastline and stop the people smugglers to get in. creating a foretress europe... which is appalling, absolutely appalling. considering what the eu is supposed to stand for. one of the solutions they are considering is to create a new deal like they have with turkey and with libya. we all know what goes on in those refugee camps, sexual abuses, rapes of minors, torture. all sorts of human rights violations. the eu is trying to outsource its refugee problems to the developing world. countries that do not have the capacity to address the migration crisis. this is because there has been an inability of europe to address the inequities in the refugee system. refugees have to stay and register in the first port of call. that puts pressure on those countries. yes, greece suffered tremendously in 2015 with the largest number of refugees coming from syria.

now it is a sleek, getting around 70% of all the migrants. —— now it is italy. and italy turns back a ship this week. the eastern european countries refuse any kind of burden sharing. we also have angela merkel, many other european prime ministers will pander to their right—wing parties. and far right parties. that is getting to the horrors of it. above the mechanics of the problem, this is the next essential crisis with the eu. —— getting to the heart of the problem. they wanted to get rid of national governments which could conceivably be seized by populist mobs, that was, european countries have this rather terrible history of electing the wrong people come hitler, mussolini. the idea of this benign oligarchy in brussels was that the accountable democratic national governments would lose a great deal of their power and self—determination.

this is an attempt to make a homogenous entity as of the eu is smashing. trying to impose a universal fiscal system on europe, that might have been the points. democratic accountability, the basic principle of 18th—century modern democracy, which is that the legitimacy of the law derives from the consent of the people, that had to go out the window because the people were not reliable. now we are coming to the crunch, the people have become so angry about their concerns and worries and anxieties not being attended to and is being treated

with contempt by the brussels oligarchy that they are taking over governments like italy. that's a huge exaggeration. all of the pandering to right wing and anti—immigration feelings starts at national level. you misunderstand me. that was my point is, you misunderstood. the danger of nationalism and anti—immigrant healing —— feeling is what the eu is designed to suppress and because it has suppressed it

with such derision and contempt, they are getting exactly what they want to avoid, which is mob rule. that might play into our later brexit discussion. there are human beings at the root of this, people dying trying to make the crossing. politicians are not talking about the root cause of why people still want to flee. exactly. i agree that this is an existential but it is really of a western liberal democracies. no one has figured out how to handle a great moment of massive migration from the south to the north. with humanely but they also want border control. how do you square those two? no one has figured that out. in the us this week, we saw appalling images of children being detained. we have seen a situation with the us border like europe experienced in 2015.

there is a crisis on the us border. trump has reversed his policy on separating children from their families but the crisis is not over, he has not ruling wished zero tolerance policy on migrants, he still wa nts tolerance policy on migrants, he still wants to stop what he has called catch and release, whereby migrants are detained, and with children, and then released to appear before a court later, often yea rs appear before a court later, often years later. and he will bump up against a court ruling that mandates that these children cannot be detained even with their parents for more than 20 days. this crisis will continue because he has made these arrangements to have families housed on military bases and i think the courts will strike him down on that. supporters would say, he has been

upfront about his views on immigration right from the get go, right from the campaign, this was one of his platforms, to stop illegal migration, therefore, they would argue, he has every right to do so, he was elected on that mandate. he did not campaign on separating children from families, i will say that. he has made a play that this would play well with the base, he has privately said, as reported, " my people love this" but actually, i think, reported, " my people love this" but actually, ithink, it reported, " my people love this" but actually, i think, it has united the country in a way that we have not seenin country in a way that we have not seen ina country in a way that we have not seen in a long time. the majority of people do not want children to be treated in this way. that specific policy was a step too far? yes, step too far, it has backfired on him, yes, it has split the republican party, laid open a difference as to how to handle it and i think it has damaged the republican party, and that damage will not go away before the november midterms. he has this

unrealistic expectation that republicans will gain control, will gain more seats in congress and therefore be able to pass hardline immigration bill, that is unrealistic. the language used has been peculiarly offensive and inflammatory, at one point he talked about illegal immigrant infesting the society. does he have any idea of the historical precedent for referring to groups of people as vermin, that was a astonishing! the innocence it's —— ignorance is owed of 20th century... i am fully aware... he is fully aware of this. we see the language being used in hungary, we see it by the interior ministry in italy. on talking about donald trump being ignorant. need is but i think he knows very well what he is doing, he is extremely dangerous. i'm not supporting this language, one goes without saying, it is inadmissible, but going back

to this, america, europe, does any country, how much immigration can we accept country, how much immigration can we a cce pt to country, how much immigration can we accept to continue to cope with our own national endeavour? you talk negatively about fortress europe, and you'll talk about it but there is nothing wrong with europe trying to figure out how they can cope with this enormous exodus. western countries have to think very carefully about the impact of their foreign policy, international the policies. as long as we will be creating wars and instability in the developing world, as long as we insist on international trade regimes that are incredibly disadvantageous to developing countries, we are going to continue to see close of migration coming here. that is a generation ago. there is a significant difference

between european response of european community is to migration and america, america is a nation of immigrants, europe, provincial places, particularly in europe, where people's families have lived for ten generations, the idea of an influx of outsiders and migrants does have a significant impact on communities and to treat that with contempt or derision, to imply people are bigoted because their communities are being disrupted in this way, is unfair, and it is a very important political lesson for europe to take in, it seems incapable of taking it in. at the brussels commission '5 level, national governments are having to ta ke national governments are having to take it in because they are elected and accountable. we will move on for now. we could fill many hours with this topic alone, so we will see, imminently, whether thomas is right when he says not much may be achieved by this mini summit in brussels this weekend. here in the uk, let's talk a little bit about

events here, no sooner did prime minister theresa may survive a parliamentary vote about brexit, after a torrid time discussed last week, several major companies including the aerospace giant airbus started ringing very loud and very public alarm bells this week about the risk of britain leaving the eu without a transition deal. airbus directly implies 14,000 people in this country, it said it may stop manufacturing here in the event of no deal. they said no deal would be catastrophic for their business. janet, goodness, we are meant to leave the eu nine months from now. cani leave the eu nine months from now. can i say a word about airbus. they said, if we didn'tjoin can i say a word about airbus. they said, if we didn't join the can i say a word about airbus. they said, if we didn'tjoin the euro, that was back in the day, they would pull out of the uk, then they said, if the leave vote one, then they would go out, it is getting a bit boring. —— if the leave vote one. their relationship with europe is

dubious, they get an awful lot of money and subsidy. —— if the leave vote won. what they are saying is consistent with what the majority of companies have been saying. business hates uncertainty, we all hate it but ina hates uncertainty, we all hate it but in a free—market economy and particularly a world that is going towards free trade, flexibility and adaptability are name of the game, if you can't adapt, business always does adapt, you cannot survive, that is the whole point of the capitalist economy as opposed to a totalitarian communist economy. getting onto the political question of theresa may, and surviving, this has been an extraordinarily exasperating period, people who write to me, who write, almost any commentator, are saying, why can't we just get on with it and the problem for theresa may, she has been presiding over a divided party. the significance of those defeats, those successes for her, the defeats of the remainers, the gaggle of

remainers in the house of commons, was very important, it means that in future, she can actually, and i think, from my private soundings, the war is over, i think the commons lobby for remain as finally given up the ghost. war is over within her party. yes, within her party, the remain, the significance of that climb—down was much greater even thanit climb—down was much greater even than it appeared, because i think there was tremendous pressure being put by those mps constituency parties and the party in general and so parties and the party in general and so on, and public opinion, public opinion is getting fed up with obstructionism, even people who voted remain apparently just obstructionism, even people who voted remain apparentlyjust want this to be over, they want to get on with this. the polling varies. the country is still divided. it is not just people complaining about obstructionism. obstructionism by a particular coordinated campaign which seems to be in league with brussels, in fact, there is not

going to be no deal... there is going to be no deal... there is going to be a deal. how do you know that? the biggest point is, we still don't know what it is. with nine months to go. the need to threaten to walk away, the need to say, no deal... "no deal is better than a bad deal"... is still, logically, absolutely imperative, as soon as she sets down your minimum requirements, they become maximum requirements. does theresa may need to just bluntly, with this area to 90, to just bluntly, with this area to go, just say that? is that wary? she has been trying to say that since the beginning, we can see the results are not very good because the british government has conceded throughout this 18 months or so, they have conceded every demand made by brussels. as a bluffing strategy, it has not worked very well. brussels know very well that they have far more cards to play, than britain has. as a negotiating

strategy, it has not worked very well. going back to the point where capitalism being good to adapt and should adapt, that is exactly what airbus is doing, they are saying, they are saying that, they are saying, this is what a capitalist company says, you do not offer us the conditions in which we want to do business, we go elsewhere. that isa do business, we go elsewhere. that is a threat, the problem is, thousands of jobs on is a threat, the problem is, thousands ofjobs on the line.|j is a threat, the problem is, thousands of jobs on the line. i was just saying, they have made that threat three times now, and once you make a threat and do not carry it through, it is less convincing when you make it a second time and even less convincing the third time! your point is other companies are saying this as well. this is fundamentally different than the previous examples you cite, this is a major change in the trading relationship and their concerns echo countless other companies lobbying the government both in public and in private, a no deal scenario would be catastrophic for business and forjobs. and i

think what you will see in the coming months is companies with gloves off, they have been quiet, they have been diplomatic up until now, and it is crunch time now. that will focus minds on what brexit will really cost the country. on top of that, news this week that the eu is considering imposing visa requirements on eu citizens. these are the negative views that will come out in the run—up to the withdrawal treaty being presented before parliament, if it ever gets to that point, and then parliament, mps will have to look at this and think, we are going to spend 40 billion for this? what does this mean! is this really worth it? look at the political dimension, the kind of business, the being corporate businesses, making these threats, the public is already alienated, many politicians already alienate

it, because they feel that the interests of that kind of big global corporate industrial structure is not sympathetic to the needs of the communities that i wasjust not sympathetic to the needs of the communities that i was just talking about, the real people. and it is amazing, the consistency with which public opinion manages to say, first of all, "project fear", then "project fear" part two, now "project fear" part two, now "project fear" part three, they say, these people are not interested in my future, they are interested in their profits, as viewed... they provide thejobs. their profits, as viewed... they provide the jobs. brinkman their profits, as viewed... they provide thejobs. brinkman is is very nice to talk about, "no deal is better than a bad deal", but results ina better than a bad deal", but results in a situation where i call up your argument of flexibility, britain has to be flexible... to the hilt! flexible, britain has been entirely to flexible. so far, so far that has not happened. we have discussed the trade element, more on that to come.

janet, while you are here, you talk about soundings ta ken janet, while you are here, you talk about soundings taken from people very much inside westminster, your view, this week map as to theresa may herself, how long she will hold this out, we are always interested to ask for inside news on this on dateline? she will carry through with the negotiation period because they could not switch horses in midstream but i don't think she will carry on to the next election. —— dateline. if you want my tip as to who will be the leader of the conservative party, i would say, sajid javid, and has played a blinder, he has moved this week to make that extraordinarily open and generous offer to the eu citizens, now home secretary, interior minister. he has made an offer to eu citizens, which has wrong—footed brussels, really, they have made no competitors offer, no similar offer to british citizens, that was not

only very civil and generous, but also tactically brilliant, because of the effect, it is now morally obliging to brussels, to make this offer, to british citizens living in the eu, and if they don't, that will bea the eu, and if they don't, that will be a really seriously bad mark. never a question that offer would be made. people used to say that about britain and yet she was criticised, the government criticised for not having made the specific officer. he has made it clear, answer three questions, criminal offence, have you moved here for five years, are you moved here for five years, are you settle, permanent address, that is it, you will have the right to live here. absolutely brilliant political move, i think the feeling is, he looks like and is the future of the conservative party. would-be a brilliant personnel decision to have sajid javid governing this country, he would stick all of these

jeremy corbyn boxes, generous to europe, while britain is out, he is from a coloured, immigrant community, so he would be a british barack 0bama, as it were... working—class background. his father was a pakistani bus driver, he has a back story to die for, forgive the cynicism, and that is, that would have enormous electoral appeal. and he has very good judgment, politically. far better than boris johnson, for instance, he is too much of a divisive character, sajid javid would unite. he looks like the future, borisjohnson looks javid would unite. he looks like the future, boris johnson looks like the past. we still have two exit the eu first! with a deal, or not... i wonder whether i have time very quickly, your quick thoughts, we talk so much about a no deal, walking away, what would a no deal look like for the rest of europe? well, it would be pretty catastrophic in a sense because, europe has trade relations with

britain, she is a major trading partner, and i don't think we could easily see her leaving the fold, as it were, and threaten as a result the business. more than that, it would threaten the kiddies and of the eu, when a major power like britain leaves the club map and two germans it would be terrible, left alone with the french(!) and have to manage them. already, six years ago, they said, please don't leave us with the french, they are complaining all the time, they are not the partner we want. britain is a natural partner for germany, not the partner we want. britain is a natural partnerfor germany, into free—trade, she has democratic institutions which rival and mirror our own. we would be terribly upset if it can do that. imagine for them being alone, a government at the forefront of trying to make it possible for britain to continue to have a working relationship with the eu. on that thought... possibly a

degree of positivity... i hesitate to use that word... much more to discuss this time next week, i hope you canjoin discuss this time next week, i hope you can join us discuss this time next week, i hope you canjoin us then. we discuss this time next week, i hope you can join us then. we felt like we didn't have enough time to get through all of that this week, thank you for being with us, hope to see you for being with us, hope to see you next time. goodbye. 25 degrees today in the south, even with more high cloud around, some have been complaining there is more cloud in the skies but it is still warm and still plenty of hazy sunshine around, this was portishead earlier on, but with the warm sunshine around, and for the next few days, strong sunshine, continuing warmth will continue, looking at hot weather in the next

five to seven days. the jet stream is driving weather systems to the north, allowing these highs to dominate. dry air, not allowing much cloud, temperatures rising both by day and night, clouds today has been in the north and the west, tending to melt away a little as we go through the night, cooland night for scotland and northern ireland, still chilly in the suburbs of england and wales but as they say, temperatures rising by day, not falling as low by night. high—pressure, those are the weather systems to the north and the west, and pete continues. maybe a little bit of dawn mist, little bit more clouds drifting into east anglia, and we will find less cloud across mainland scotland. not a bad day although the cloud will probably ta ke although the cloud will probably take until the end of the day to clear. as a consequence of more strong sunshine, temperatures into the 205 for 5trong 5un5hine, temperatures into the 205 for belfast and the central lowlands. thi5 the 205 for belfast and the central lowlands. this is just the 205 for belfast and the central lowlands. thi5 i5ju5t to show the 205 for belfast and the central lowlands. this is just to show you liked wind, light wind inland,

continuing to build, gentle 5ea breezes, if you are finding the heat all too 5tifling. bear with us, it will continue. sunday into monday, repeat performance, cool in the glens of scotland, tempered a5 repeat performance, cool in the glens of scotland, tempered as in town5 glens of scotland, tempered as in towns and cities darting to notch up a degree. a5 we see, notching up a degree each day, not dropping a5 a degree. a5 we see, notching up a degree each day, not dropping as low at night. another fine day on monday, lot5 at night. another fine day on monday, lots of sunshine, more cloud in the western isles. unlikely to produce much rain. stifle5 the temperature a little bit, for many, even as we head further north, temperatures building toward5 even as we head further north, temperatures building towards the mid—205, there is a blip a5 temperatures building towards the mid—205, there is a blip as we head toward5 mid—205, there is a blip as we head towards the weekend, potential for the incursion again of the atlantic air, and possible northerly breeze, taking temperatures down next weekend. prior to that, taking temperatures down next weekend. priorto that, likely taking temperatures down next weekend. prior to that, likely we will hit 30, not record—breaking for thi5 will hit 30, not record—breaking for this time of year but if you like heat and 5un5hine, look5 this time of year but if you like heat and 5un5hine, looks like we are looking at four or five, six days to come. a5 ever, looking at four or five, six days to

come. as ever, more on looking at four or five, six days to come. a5 ever, more on the website. this is bbc news. i'm annita mcveigh. the headlines at 5pm. thousands of people march through london to demand a vote on the final deal on the uk's departure from the eu. the will of the people is to have a proper, and formed a referendum where we know what oppressive deal means. we can keep going into this absolute di5a5ter without stopping if we really want to do this. senior cabinet ministers stress the uk is still prepared to walk away from brexit talks without a deal. the prime minister has always said that nothing is agreed until everything is agreed and that no deal with than a bad deal. the other headlines this hour. an explosion at an election rally in zimbabwe. the blast targeted a stadium where president emmerson mnangagwa was addressing thousands of supporters.