good picture, don't change minds. good picture, exactly, rachel. you can get 100,000 people on the street but you only change minds if minds are open enough and open to persuasion and to be changed and i don't see any minds changing in whitehall and westminster. i agree with that entirely but they mimic is a different point, which is any time there's been a point of brexit compromise in any way, the hard brexiteers in the parliament and in the media have said no we have two on the will of the people and that the phrase with her again and again. what i think the people demonstrating today were trying to put forward is that the will of the people isn't just one put forward is that the will of the people isn'tjust one thing. the 40% of the country who voted the other way are still citizens of this country. we are leaving the eu but wouldn't do it and try and do it in a way that speaks to the whole of the country rather than the half that voted leave and that these people assistance to and they want their voices heard. it any difference. i think that's what they are aiming for. rachel makes a very

strong point. parliamentary politics depends on consensus there's been sweet fanny adams of consensus and these people to have a point. we're going to finish off on the sunday express, apparently hayley celebrity wedding. i've never seen game of thrones. why is this a story? kit harrington, who played john snow is a beautiful, beautiful man and he has married, i don't remember her name. rosie leslie i think? and they we re name. rosie leslie i think? and they were together on the show, they were lovers, she played a woman called ygritte, is very traumatic, some people come back to life... other people come back to life... other people come back to life... other people come back to live? dallas moment? they played lovers on the

show and people are getting married people are very happy about it and you rarely see anything happy and i'm a thrones whatsoever and they looked very happy together. reality imitates art so let me know. screen romance that died been continued off screen. we will leave it there for now but i wanted to apologise to you because you manage this brilliantly. we had a nasty glitch in our system tonight, must be the weather, i blame the weather, so our graphics just and wake up in time so thank you. thank you, robert and thank you, rachel and thank you for persevering. we are back at 1130 and are at the top of the hour. in the meantime, it is meet the author. three generations of immigrants from

kenya and three lifetimes of struggle. but one of them falls in love and start a family. nikesh shukla's novel the one who wrote destiny, is about the conflicts within the family itself. cancer, a comedian who is not funny and the book, despite its unflinching exploration of racism, welcome. it would be very easy on the subject to write a very angry book, a brittle book, full of fire and there is anger in this book but fundamentally, it is very funny. do us fundamentally, it is very funny. do usa fundamentally, it is very funny. do us a better way of doing it? yeah, i

have read a lot of very heavy books about immigration and race in the past few years. i edited a collection of essays called the the good immigrant. by nature, i'm a comedy writer so i wanted to get to the heart of these people and these wonderful characters. there is this old steve allen quote about comedy is timeless tragedy and what better way to talk about tragedy than through the prism of comedy? way to talk about tragedy than through the prism of comedy7m way to talk about tragedy than through the prism of comedy? it is a human comedy. it features a comedian, he was very good. his career is not going anywhere and he wonders why and everyone else knows, he is not terribly funny, as the reader knows. i have a real soft spot for him. he is one of those people who, when he finds his voice, he will start to do better. he is still messing about with few years.

he is only one of the characters and the engine of the story is the arrival of a kenyan immigrant in the 19505, he settles not in london, the normal way of things in that era but goes to yorkshire. he discovers that it isn't rock and roll and girls and all the things he expected, it is slightly different. see immediately taking the story off its axis. yes. it is based on the true story of my uncle, he came to the uk in the 605 andi uncle, he came to the uk in the 605 and i think because we had relatives in huddersfield and bradford, he didn't have a network in london to be able to find lodgings that were happy with having coloured folk in there so he ended up in yorkshire. even though my entire family live in london, where they were meant to end up, ithink, london, where they were meant to end up, i think, i london, where they were meant to end up, ithink, i generally london, where they were meant to end up, i think, i generally have much ofa up, i think, i generally have much of a connection with yorkshire. the

story stretches over three generations. one particularly poignant strand in the story, which is the daughter who has inherited the cancer that killed, or the gene, that produced the cancer that killed her mother and she knows that she's going to die. you are taking it had on there. yes. i wanted with this book to write some british south asian characters that you just don't see. you know, too often, the books that get published by british authors from a south asian background off and tend to be about identity or radicalisation or arranged marriages and myjokers a lwa ys arranged marriages and myjokers always been that true diversity will come when we get a brown writer writing literary fiction where middle—aged middle—class creative writing professor has sex with one of his impossibly attractive younger stu d e nts of his impossibly attractive younger students and is a little bit sad for

300 pages, is my version of that was to try and write about a stand—up comedian and the immigrant who didn't end up in london and the internal life of someone wrestling with their mortality. i don't think there is much fiction written from there is much fiction written from the perspective of kenyan indians whose families have ended up in the uk. we talk about three generations and they're all told in a very immediate way. we see the kinds of things, whether it's a question of health or love life or professional achievement, the things that all families go through worrying about, it is fascinating to hear you talk about the way you want these people to appear to be shedding the usual accoutrement of immigrant family written about. yes and be more honest representation of immigrant families that are out there. they go

through all the very universal things that people described that those things are seen through the prism of race because sometimes being a person of colour in this country, that element of your life is inescapable. my dad was attacked by national front members in the 605 and nearly died. to him, that is racism, that visceral violence. when i come home and complain about kids calling the curry boy and saying that i look dirty... he said, you ain't seen nothing. yes and it was things the lead up to brexit where you saw the narrative around immigration turn quite toxic and the breaking point poster that my dad andi breaking point poster that my dad and i kind of started to meet in the middle a bit more and we were able to, he was able to appreciate the kind of the scale of these things. my kind of the scale of these things. my uncle in 1968, he tried to buy a

house in huddersfield. he was refused, they wouldn't sell the house to him because he was brown and they didn't want to devalue their area. the race relations act arejust come in their area. the race relations act are just come in that very year and he said, that is now illegal and my uncle was the first person to ever bring a case of race to screw a nation under the race relations act. all this can stuff crops up in the book and the judgment was reserved because he was a test case and there was a technicality that meant the judge had to reservejudgment but he did say in a summation that discrimination had occurred and the company did change their policy after that. my uncle and i talking about this in 2017, when i'm working on edits the book and we see this news story of this landlord in kent is then taken to court because he won't rent out properties to asians because they stink the place out with curry and my uncle just said to

me, sometimes, isee with curry and my uncle just said to me, sometimes, i see these things and remember how far we haven't come. what about your generation and the generation younger than you? do think in london, for example, kids who are ten, 12, 15 are much less prone to the old attitudes than their parents generation? that's interesting. i live in bristol and i've been a youth worker for the last four years. the thing that i saw with all the young people i worked with is that they are so much more politically progressive than my generation is and when we talk about identity politics, which is the stick that the left beats with but young people, the sense of identity is so much more fluid and ingrained in the way that they can reverse that, it's not so much removed from them that they necessarily need to talk about it so i have real hope

the next generation. in a way, the book traces that journey, the next generation. in a way, the book traces thatjourney, not in a crude, polemical way but through the experience of one family, with all its ups and downs. in that sense, quite apart from the fun and laughter in the book, is the story of hope, isn't it? yes, i would like to think so. of hope, isn't it? yes, i would like to think 50. without giving too much away, i think it ends on an interesting note of hope but i think that what that is about is freeing yourself from the shackles of fate and destiny and trying to forge your own path and each of our characters journeys is the precarious balance between forging your own path and giving yourself to what was written. this act that happens towards the end of the book i hope is a moment of hope. in the book is an attempt to reconcile what i think is a

version of a multicultural britishness that i was wanted to try and find peace with growing up. the title is an interesting one, given what you are talking about. it says people on the path, i think. nikesh shukla, the author of that the one who wrote destiny, thank you. a decent start to the weekend for the greater part of the british isles. the satellite imagery really does tell the tale aboutjust how cloudy it was across northern scotla nd cloudy it was across northern scotland and elsewhere the sunshine to sport on three. overnight, underneath the clear skies, temperatures predicted in the countryside dribbling away into single figures but not as cold as it

has been. with that amount of clear skies, sundays go game to be a really decent day again. perhaps more in the way of cloud to east anglia and parts the south—east but eventually i think we will see some sunshine getting in to the shetland islands. highs of 25 degrees or so but for many of us, the only way is up but for many of us, the only way is up with regard to the temperatures. this is bbc news. the headlines at 11: tens of thousands of people march through london to demand a vote on the final deal on the uk's departure from the eu. the will of the people is to have a

proper and informed referendum where we know what brexit means. we need to have a proper discussion to see if we actually want to do this. senior cabinet ministers stress the uk is still prepared to walk away from brexit talks without a deal. the prime minister has always said nothing is agreed until everything is agreed, and that no deal is better than a bad deal. also ahead this hour: an explosion at an election rally attended by zimbabwe's president. he was unharmed in the blast, but at least two senior government