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tv   Meet the Author  BBC News  June 24, 2018 10:45pm-11:01pm BST

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you think of the ri iii'ifi sci iiil‘ei hw— you think of the calibre of when you think of the calibre of some of the players. i don't know much about football, but all i can say is harry kane, i think he's the man the hour. we'll see if you can keep up, statistics might show otherwise but he seems to be quite talented. and it looks like he is the top scorer in the tournament so far. putting him up there with gary lineker, scoring a hat—trick in a world cup. it was very entertaining. what a lot of wrestling in the first half as people would have watched and then today we got the penalties and then today we got the penalties and some lucky breaks and some excellent football. but, yes, it was only panama. is it a bit churlish to say that? they were thrilled with oui’ say that? they were thrilled with our goal. they're worth role, that was lovely to see them celebrating their goal when they scored. —— they we re their goal when they scored. —— they were thrilled. on the way here i was listening to the ambassador to panama saying he was hosting a party. he was, we interviewed him. you may have entered how the interview i did. —— heard the
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interview i did. —— heard the interviewl did. they interview i did. —— heard the interview i did. they got a little bit grumpy when there were 6—0 down but when they got a goal back they we re but when they got a goal back they were delighted. and they all dumped in the paul levy and! it went a bit viral in panama. all these panamanian politicians and ambassador, jumping into the pool and their football shirts. it was a very sweet moment. that is it for the paper is this hours but because it's a sunday, we will get two goes at it! charlie and joel will be back at it! charlie and joel will be back at 11:30pm with another look at the front pages. coming up, meet the author. three generations of immigrants from kenya, three lifetimes of struggle. and not only with the attitudes mukesh meets when he arrives in yorkshire, falls in love and starts a family. nikesh shukla's novel the one who wrote destiny is also about the family's troubles inside itself. a daughter who develops the same cancer that killed her mother, a son who chooses a career
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as a comedian but unfortunately isn't terribly funny. but the book is, despite its unflinching exploration of racism. welcome. it would be very easy on the subject to write a very angry book, you know, a brittle book full of fire. and there is anger in this book but fundamentally, it's very funny. do you think that's a better way of doing it? yeah, i... i've read a lot of very heavy books about immigration and race in the last few years. i edited a collection of essays called the good immigrant. and by nature i'm a comedy writer, so i wanted to do something that the heart of... these people and these wonderful characters. there's a quote about how comedy
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is time plus tragedy, and what better way to talk about tragedy than through the prism of comedy? well, and it is a human comedy, of course it features a comedian who is not very good. he, i mean... his career is not going anywhere and he wonders why. and everyone else knows, and i think the reader knows, it's because he's really not terribly funny. i've got a real soft spot for him. i think he is one of those people who, when he finds his voice, he will start to... start to do better. he's kind of still messing about with who he is. of course, he's only one of the characters. and really, the story, the engine of the story is the arrival of a kenyan immigrant in the 1950s. he settles not in london, which would be a sort of normal way of things in that era, but goes to
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yorkshire and discovers it isn't rock and roll and girls and all these things he expected, it's a bit different. so you're immediately taking the story off its axis. yes, and it's actually based on the true story of my uncle, who came to the uk in the 60s and... i think because we had relatives in huddersfield and bradford, just wasn't, he didn't have a network in london that were happy with having "colourful" there, so happy with having "colourful" there, so he ended up in keighley, so even though my family ended up in london where they were meant to end up, i don't really have much affection for keighley. the story stretches over three derivations, there is one particularly poignant strand in the story which is the daughter who has inherited the cancer that killed, the gene that produced the cancer that killed her mother. and she
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knows that she's to die. that is, you're taking it head—on there. knows that she's to die. that is, you're taking it head-on there. yes, it...| you're taking it head-on there. yes, it... i wanted, you're taking it head-on there. yes, it... iwanted, with you're taking it head-on there. yes, it... i wanted, with this book, to write some british south asian characters that you just don't see. and too often, the books that get published by trish authors —— british authors from south asian background tend to be about identity radicalisation or arrange marriages, and myjoke radicalisation or arrange marriages, and my joke is radicalisation or arrange marriages, and myjoke is was been true diversity will be when we get a brown writer writing literary fiction were a middle—class asian professor has sex with one of his impossibly attractive younger stu d e nts impossibly attractive younger students and then is a bit sad for 300 pages! so my version of that was defiant right about a stand—up comedian, the immigrant who didn't end up in london and the internal life of someone wrestling with their mortality. and also their isn't, i
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don't think there is much fiction written from the perspective kenyan indians. the stories are all told in a very immediate way and we see things right is a question of health and love lies and professional achievement, the things families go through worrying about. it's fascinating to hear you talking about the way you want these people to appear to be shedding their... you know, the usual accoutrements of immigrantfamilies you know, the usual accoutrements of immigrant families being written about. yes, and more being an honest representation of immigrant families that were out there. so they go through all this at a very universal things you describe but sometimes those things are seen through the prism of race because, you know, sometimes being a person of colour in this country, the element of your life is inescapable. my dad was
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attacked in the 60s and nearly died, and to him and that is racism, that visceral violence. .. the sharp end. yes. and so i come home and complain about kids calling the curry boy and saying i would go to, micro aggressions... and he says, you ain't seen nothing. yes. and actually, it was things... in the lead up to brexit, you kind of saudi narrative up around immigration turn quite toxic and the breaking point. —— you saudi narrative. and me and my dad started to meet in the middle bit more. —— you sort the narrative. and we were able to appreciate the scale of these things. my uncle in the 60s tried to buy a house in huddersfield and was refused, they wouldn't sell the house to him because he was brown and they didn't wa nt to because he was brown and they didn't want to devalue the area. and the race relations act had just come in that year and he said, you know that
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no illegal. welcome was the first person to bring a case on race! under the race relations act. —— case on race discrimination. and the judgment was reserved, i think he was a test case and so... there was a technicality, thejudge had to reservejudgment but a technicality, thejudge had to reserve judgment but he did say in his summation that discrimination had occurred and they did change their policy after that. but by uncle and i were talking about this in 2017 and i'm kind of working on edits of the book, and we see this news story of a landlord in kent has been taken to court because he won't rental properties to asians because they stink the place out with curry, and my uncle just said to they stink the place out with curry, and my unclejust said to me, sometimes i... i see these things and remember how far we haven't come. what about your generation and the generation younger than you? deal think that in london, for example, kids who are, i don't know, ten, 12, 15, are much less prone to
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the old attitudes than their pa re nts' the old attitudes than their parents' generation? it interesting, i was parents' generation? it interesting, iwas in parents' generation? it interesting, i was in bristol, i've been a youth workerfor i was in bristol, i've been a youth worker for the last four years, i've just finished up a project earlier this year and the thing i saw with the young people i worked with is that they are so much more politically aggressive than my generation is. when we talk about identity politics, which is the sort of... the stick that our bread beats the left with. —— the old right be the left with. —— the old right be the left with. for young people, the centre of a density is so much more fluid and ingrained in the way they conversed that, it's not so much more removed from them that they necessarily need to talk about it. soi necessarily need to talk about it. so i have real hope for the next generation that... and in no way, the book traces thatjourney, not any sort of crude polemical way back through the experience of one family with all its ups and downs, in that sense, apart from the fun and the laughter of the book, it's a story
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of hope, isn't it? i'd like to think so. of hope, isn't it? i'd like to think so. without giving too much away, i think it ends on an interesting note of hope but i think that what's that is about is, it's about... freeing yourself from the shackles of, you know, fate and destiny and trying to... forge your own path. and, you know, so much of each of our characters' journeys is about the precarious balance between forging your own path and giving yourself to what was written. and this act that happens towards the end of the book, i hope, is a moment of hope. my book is an attempt to kind of reconcile what i think is a version of a multicultural britishness that i was one to try and find peace was growing up... and the title is an interesting one, given what we would talking about. it sets people on the path, i think. talking about. it sets people on the
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path, ithink. nikesh talking about. it sets people on the path, i think. nikesh shukla, talking about. it sets people on the path, ithink. nikesh shukla, author of the one who wrote destiny, thank you very much. thank you. good evening. it has certainly been a splendid sunday across much of the uk today. a lot more sunshine around, even across the northern half of the country. you can see here in aberdeenshire, blue skies overhead. there was a little bit of cloud across the hebrides and towards orkney and shetland earlier. you can just see that on their stunning satellite image from nasa earlier on. this whiteness here isjust the high cloud across the south. a blue sky day, get used to it. lots more to come. high pressure firmly in charge, right across the uk, it does not want to shift much either. while that sits there, we stayed largely dry, too. a dry night tonight, the breeze across the hebrides, orkney and the shetlands, has been clear through the day, some clear skies for a time through the night, a bit more cloud into the morning and temperatures away from the major cities, down into single figures to start monday morning but generally speaking, by night and by day, things are warming up.
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but high pressure is in charge, we are not really importing the warm air from the south. what is happening is that the air is circulating and gradually warming up, day by day across the uk. there will be subtle fluctuations from day—to—day, depending on whether breezes. on monday, the breeziest conditions will be across the north of scotland, a bit more cloud here again. elsewhere, lots of sunshine around, maybe a little bit of low cloud clips the coast of norfolk and suffolk, but foremost, a blue sky day and by this stage, temperatures in the south—east corner could be up to around 29 degrees. widely low to mid 20s, england, wales and northern ireland, 25 celsius through the highlands of scotland. into tuesday, we do it all again. just a small chance of one or slightly bigger clouds out towards the west of ireland and that could just produce the odd shower, but foremost it is another blue sky day and temperatures across scotland starting to climb even more, with the warmest of the weather across england and wales, central and western areas. you can see that again on wednesday, the deeper orange colours i in the west, a little bit cooler down the east and that is because there is more
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of a breeze off sea. we could start with some low cloud across coastal districts in england, pushing england first thing in the morning and then breaks up nicely. the afternoon, blue skies overhead and temperatures wisely into the mid if not high 20s and it is notjust the days getting warmer, nights are as well but because the night is quite dry, nothing oppressively warm, temperatures generally around the teens, mostly either side of that. that is by night, by day, we keep with the warm air for the end of the week and by the weekend, temperatures may be dropping off a little bit in the north. goodbye for now. this is bbc news. the headlines at 11: president erdogan has claimed victory in turkey's presidential and parliamentary elections, but opposition has not yet accepted defeat. shot deflected. kane's got another goal. england score 6 goals
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