hello. it's monday, it's 9 o'clock. i'm victoria derbyshire. welcome to the programme. more than 300 transgender children each year are now being prescribed puberty blockers in the uk, this programme has learnt. we'll be hearing the latest from two children we've been following for over three years, now living as girls. what do you think you will do? probably live all my life as a girl. probably? yeah, definitely. definitely? definitely, yeah. later, after ten... will be talking to these young people, aged 12 to 17 years old, are all transgender, some on puberty blockers, some not, and what it's like growing up as trans in britain in 2018. it's the first day of wimbledon. serena is back and seeeded 25th. and andy murray is down and out. playing the best of three sets is very different from playing the best of five sets, and, of course, you wouldn't want to put yourself

into a situation where you couldn't complete the match, or you maybe won your first match and you weren't able to play the second match. we'll be live at the all england club. and, as firefighters continue to battle the moorland blazes in greater manchester and lancashire, there are fears they could be burning for weeks. as of four o'clock this morning, we're back in offensive firefighting operations, and using our specialist equipment to try and extinguish this huge scale, ongoing fire and try to bring back some normality to the fell. we'll have the latest from the scene of the winter hill fire. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. today we really want to hear from you if you are a young person and trans growing up in britain today, or if you're the parent of a young trans boy or girl. what's it like? what are the challenges? what are the positives? later, we're going to live

to six young people all between the ages of 12 and 17 to share their experiences. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning. use the hashtage victoria live. and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today... downing street says it's produced a new model for handling customs after the uk leaves the european union. ministers have been involved in heated discussions in recent weeks as they try to choose between two other versions, which have both been rejected. our political guru, norman smith, is at westminster. tell us about the third way. we do not know much about it beyond, we are told it is a new plan and not a resurgent week to the two existing proposals. it is also not going to involve a ny proposals. it is also not going to involve any extension to the transition period, so we will still

be completely out in december 2020 but there is a lot of speculation about whether it might be a hokey cokie option, a half in, half out option, whereby we would abide by single market rules when it comes to goods. our trade in goods. but not when it comes to services. the thinking there is, it would mean, if you are exporting a fridge to germany, you would abide by eu rules, so there would not have to be any additional border checks. in other words, goods can still travel freely and easily without any problems. on services, we would be able to cut loose and strike our own trade deals. the hope is that kind of meets both sides, it meets the concerns of former remainers who are worried about the problems business might face worried about the problems business mightface in worried about the problems business might face in exporting and it meets the concerns for brexiteers who want to be guaranteed we can strike our own trade deals that is not

confirmed merger speculation about what the new deal might look like. hasn't brussels always said he will not be able to pick and choose? therein lies the problem. already, brussels has given a pretty dusty response to this idea which has been floating around for a few weeks. the view in brussels as you cannot separate out goods and services. many goods also involves services. you cannot draw up an armoured tree dividing line. on top of that a lot of brexiteers do not believe, if we abide by eu rules when it comes to goods, other countries will want to do deals with us because they will say, what we really want to do is we wa nt to say, what we really want to do is we want to do a deal with you on your goods. that is where they see more potential for their trade, rather than services, which is our big trump card. they do not believe this sort of arrangement will enable britain to strike its own trade deals will stop thank you. more on that later in the programme.

joanna gosling is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. the german interior minister, horst seehofer, has offered to resign, creating more instability for angela merkel‘s coalition government. mr seehofer has been pushing for a tougher approach to asylum—seekers, and was reported to be unhappy with last week's european union deal on migration. andrew plant reports. he is part of chancellor merkel‘s coalition government but has become one of her loudest critics too. now horst seehofer, leader of the christian social union party, and germany's interior minister, has offered to resign over mrs merkel‘s approach to migration. at a summit in brussels last week, an agreement was made among eu leaders to share migrants more evenly across the european union, and build new reception centres, too. the talks were prompted by italy and malta turning away rescue boats that had picked up migrants crossing to europe from north africa. angela merkel‘s ideas for building migrant processing centres

were already a much harder stance to her previous open—door approach. but the proposals hammered out in brussels proved a tougher sell back home. it's not yet clear whether mr seehofer‘s offer to resign will be accepted. chancellor merkel, though, will be keen not to weaken her coalition and avoid new elections, which some fear could embolden the country's far right, and lead to political instability both in germany and the rest of europe as a whole. andrew plant, bbc news. police have launched an investigation after a 14—year—old boy was stabbed in north london. officers were called to the scene at fairbridge road near islington at around seven o clock last night where the victim was found with a number of injuries. a 1a year—old boy and another 15—year—old have been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder. an 11—year—old, who had been arrested, has now been released.

an mp has called for bouncy castles in public areas to be temporarily banned following the death of a young girl thrown from a seaside inflatable in norfolk. according to eyewitness accounts, the inflatable trampoline exploded, flinging the girl into the air. she was taken to hospital but died of her injuries. an investigation involving the health and safety executive, local authority and police is under way. the people of mexico have elected their first left—wing president in recent history. andres manuel lopez obrador — a former mayor of mexico city — defeated both of the two main parties who have governed mexico for nearly a century. the campaign has been marred by some of the worst political violence for decades. more than 300 transgender children a year are now starting on a course of puberty—blocking drugs, according to figures seen by this programme. the treatment which can only be prescribed on the nhs after the patient has started puberty, gives youngsters time to decide if they want to live as a man 01’ a woman.

celebrity couple cheryl tweedy and liam payne have announced they are splitting after more than two years together. the former girls aloud star and one direction member confirmed the decision in posts on social media. they said they were "sad" to make the announcement, and it had been a tough decision. the couple have a son, bear, who was born in march last year. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 9:30am. thank you very much. if you are getting in touch with us you are very welcome. use the hashtag victoria live. and, if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. more than 300 transgender children a year are now starting on a course of puberty blocking drugs, according to new figures seen exclusively by this programme. the treatment, only available to under—16s on the nhs since 2011, is meant to pause the onset of puberty, giving children more time to decide if they want

to live as another gender. for the last three years, we have been following two young transgender girls ? lily and jessica ? as they grow up in the uk. last month, we spent the day at a weekend camp for transgender children where we caught up with both of them again. we're at a weekend camp for trans children and their families. we're in the middle of the british countryside. we can't tell you where because the organisers would like us to keep the location secret. there are about 30 trans children here between the ages of 6 and 19. and they spend the time in workshops talking about bullying, or self—esteem, or how to report a hate crime. but it's not just about the serious stuff, the trans children here spend a lot of time playing and messing about in an environment where no—one judges them.

well, if someone asks me if i'm transgender. i'll be, like, "yeah, i'm transgender." i won't, like, yell it. jessica is 11 years old and about to start secondary school. we've been following her and her friend lilly for more than three years now. feels like i don't fit in. i've been a girl for three years. that's a long time. since we last spoke a year ago she's begun a course of puberty blockers — injections that suppress male hormones and delay the development of features like facial hair, or a deep voice. some people do go to secondary school in stealth, so in secret, and they never reveal even if somebody asks that they used to live as the opposite gender. but you don't want to do that if someone asks — why? i don't know.

maybe i'll not say it. but i think maybe i would. i don't think anyone will, like, ask me. and why do you think no one will ask? well, it's such a weird question, like, what if you asked are you transgender, and i wasn't? it would kind of be, like, just awkward. you have started to have puberty blockers, haven't you? yes. what does that involve? well they kind of, like, stop the male hormones going around your body. and that will pause you effectively becoming a teenage boy, and then allows you to grow up and mature, and evolve, and decide if you genuinely want to carry on living your life as a girl. what do you think you will do? probably live all my life as a girl. probably? yeah, definitely. definitely?

definitely, yeah. now why do you think you are sure? well, because, i think i'm a girl. 300 children a year in the uk are now prescribed puberty blocking drugs for this reason. the number has risen every year since 2011 when under—16s were first allowed the injections on the nhs. in the kitchen, jessica's mum and stepdad are starting to make lunch for 3,000 children. the big news is since we last saw you thatjessica has started taking puberty blockers to stop her becoming a teenage boy effectively, and that involves an injection every month, how's she been about that? she's been great. i think she's a lot more relaxed now, actually. it's put her mind at ease. why, what do you mean? she was really worried about growing a beard. i think that was her biggest concern. and how do you feel as her mum now that she's taking these puberty blockers?

i don't know, i suppose it's a bit... i know it's not the end, you know, and i know that they are reversible but i don't know, it kind of just reaffirmed that that is the end of james. which was her as a boy, you mean? yeah, yeah, yeah. do you have any concerns about the long term effects of puberty blockers? i'm not concerned. no, because i do not want my child to go through a period where they feel it's so bad that they need to kill themselves. and i would much prefer to, you know, have potential side effects — long term side effects — than not get the blockers. not have a child. yeah. you mean because the rates of self harm and suicide amongst trans children are higher than the general population? yeah. you know, we've got to do everything we possibly can to keep your child happy and safe. it's early afternoon and the children have just finished having their lunch.

they're now having ice pops and messing about generally. since we started following lilly and jessica three and a half years ago the conversation around trans issues in this country has changed, and changed quite dramatically. it's very informal. we have lots of fun. the youngest trans child is? 6. and the oldest? 19. so it's quite an age range, isn't it? it is. the weekend away is organised by the charity mermaids, a support group formed back in the 90s and led by susie green, who has a trans daughter. and actually you'll have a lot of kids playing together and nobody knows who's trans and who's not. actually that's exactly the way it should be. i just heard actually two youngish children, to the other, are you transgender? and i actually didn't hear the answer but it was said in the most normal way. and i think that's part of the weekend really. that people come into this space,

parents as well as the kids, and they just know there's nojudgment. some people would think having six year olds here is not on. do you accept that that's controversial, or not? no, not really. they're just having fun. i mean the six—year—olds don't go into any of the talks — they're not interested. they do crafts and art work and, you know, what's controversial about that? that's just kids having fun. when you hear critics saying these parents are pushing these children down a particular route, kids are doing it because it's fashionable to be trans. well, i can see you laughing. do you know, the reality of it is so different, and i see families struggle day in day out coming to terms with this in the first place. it's a ridiculous point of view and actually really, it's really very condescending to parents who are dealing with a really, really tough time and young people who are struggling to actually make out that it's something that could possibly be a choice. the charity's rising profile, though, can have a downside. 17 times in the last six months susie green has had to go to the police to report abusive online messages.

eight cases have been investigated as suspected hate crimes. we were being called paedophiles. we were being accused of being child abusers. they even did mock—ups of a van with puppies and sweets on the side and said mermaids are trolling round infant schools and to try and pick up children to make them trans. i mean it is ridiculous. how seriously did the police take it? very seriously. transgender children, young people, and older trans people suffer from this daily. so something needs to change. 0k, good morning. i'm anna robinson. i am a police officer based over at lancashire... away from the games there's a serious side to this weekend. inside the main building a group of parents are hearing from one of the first trans police officers in the uk. so i want tojust start by a quick show of hands about how many people have been subjected to a hate crime. how many people know someone affected by a hate crime? 0k.

ok, so obviously a hate crime has had an impact on the room, and upon everyone here. and is hate crime towards trans children and adults on the rise? absolutely. we have seen it in an epidemic almost of hate crime being recorded. i think more and more people are reporting more and more people having the courage to report it. you know this is their daily life and they've been targeted just for living their daily life. more than half of young trans people say they've been the victim of a hate crime in the last year. according to research from the charity stonewall. 13—year—old cass was sent messages on his phone anonymously. and you have received some abuse from one person that you are at school with, and you've given me permission to read this out. and there are some words i can't use because they're horrible, vile swear words, but you're okay with me reading this out.

and the reason that you want me to read it out is for what purpose? just to raise awareness of what some people say to us, and how it can affect us. ok, so you received this message. "if i see you alive at school on monday i'm going to leak the fact you're actually a little trannie, and that you're not even a boy. you will never live it down. so do it. good bye. pathetic c—word. see you in hell." it's really messed up. like i was dead upset when i got it. some people just don't realize the effects their words can have on people. like, because, they'rejust, like, oh, it'sjust like a silly, little anonymous message. they'll get over it. but i think itjust sucks to have people say that kind of stuff about you. this person is urging you to take your own life. yeah.

well, it's unbelievable. how does that make you feel, as cass's mum? incredibly hurtful. that you know another child could even think to say that to another child. and as a parent it's like you haven't got control over what goes on at school. and as far as an online forum goes, you know, it's, it's removed from reality. and i think children with those kind of attitudes feel freer to say those kind of things whereas maybe they wouldn't say it, wouldn't say it to cass' face. what would you say finally, cass, to people who hate trans kids, trans adults, trans people, or think they do, perhaps because they don't understand, what would you say? like, i get it. some peoplejust, like, do not understand. that's ok. people have their own opinion on things, and i'm not

going to try to change everybody‘s opinion on transpeople. but i think the voice you just know that we are humans itjust we just like don't feel comfortable in our own bodies. like that's not a valid reason for people to just like send us hate messages. i don't know. being trans is just, it's just part of us... i think you shouldn't really be judged for it. lilly is 10 years old and about to start herfinal year in primary school. she was just 6 when we first spoke to her on this programme. since then she's started going to school as a girl. skirt day, she called it. i always had to complain, and say, "oh, i don't want

to put trousers on. but now i'm a girl, yay, i get to put tights on." she now goes to brownies in a girl's uniform and is thinking about that move up to secondary school. so the last time we spoke was almost a year ago. and you hadn't started year five. you're now nearly at the end of year five. what's it been like? well you know it's been very good, a lot of my friends have been, like, if there's a bully they have been sticking up for me and are being kind and nice. you said your friends stick up for you if there's a bully. what's happened ? well, a couple of months ago, a boy he was coming up to me and asking loads of questions like, "what gender are you? are you a girl? no, you're a boy, aren't you? stop pretending and stuff." i didn't like it. have you talked about your bodies changing in pshe at school? yeah.

we did a couple of times, apart from when they mention the word transgender i was fine with that. and what was wrong with using the word transgender? well, when the teacher said that everyone just stared at me i just didn't feel very comfortable with that. and do you describe yourself as a transgender girl or a girl? normallyjust a girl. but if someone asks if i'm transgender, i say yes, because it's the truth. lily's decision to start going to school as a girl has gone about as smoothly as her parents could have hoped for. so far her mum says it's been about helping herfit in, and dealing with the odd nasty comment from one pupil at her school. the sort of things he was saying to her were very much about her gender. saying, "you won't ever be a proper woman, you won't have boobs,

and things like that. so it's quite you know really upsetting things for her to hear. and so i wanted it obviously stopped. the head teacher was great and had a chat with the boy's mum and everything seems to have settled down. so when you hear critics saying things like, oh, trans is fashionable now that's why more children are being referred to the nhs gender identity clinic, or parents are pushing confused children into a particular gender. what do you say to that? i find that really disappointing — really upsetting. nobody would choose this path for your child. you don't understand how hard it is. ijust think we're getting to a stage where there's more awareness, there's more understanding some more children are coming out so the referrals are going up. that's not about being fashionable. nobody wants to take this path. it's a really hard path. that's a thought you hear from other parents this weekend. soon lilly and jessica both start secondary school, both start dealing with puberty and adolescence. and in some ways, of course,

they are different from other children, but in many others, though, their lives are exactly the same. and just to let you know, the children, their parents, their schools all gave their permission for our interviews on condition of us protecting the girls identity which we ve done since we first met them in 2015. but after 10am, we re going to talk to some trans teenagers — who don t want to be anonymous. they want to talk openly on national television about what it s like being a trans teenager in britain in 2015. rongsak osotta na korn, laura rongsak osottanakorn, laura says as a parent to an eleven—year—old transgender child it is hard to know if you're doing right by your child. i wonder how much social media has an influence. i think there should

be more professional services for families and that the advise given can sometimes be conflicting, depending on who you see, making it harder to give the right support to your child. and this texter who doesn't use their name, bordering on trans? it is lonely and it affects my mental health. only a few people around me know. thank you for those. more to come. your experience if you're a young transperson growing up you're a young transperson growing up in britain. tell us what it is like if you're a parent of a trans child. wimbledon starts today and this year many are eagerly anticipating the return to the all—england club of serena williams. the 36—year—old seven—time champion, is continuing her comeback after having her first child in september. meanwhile, andy murray has pulled out of the tournament due to injury. this is the photo he put out on social media apologising to anyone who felt let down and saying: ‘i need to look at the bigger picture with regards

to my health right now.‘ sally nugent is at wimbledon for us. give us the latest on andy murray. it is such a disappointment isn't it? yes it is. it is as much a disappointment for him as for the many people who wanted to see him play here on centre court in wimbledon. but you do have to remember the surgery he has had. not that long ago. we have seen him play at queens and eastbourne and he just said that actually taking it from three sets up to five sets, he felt wasn't realistic at this point. he is desperate to get back to full fitness and the surgery he has had, what they do, they during the operation they dislocated his hip and tidied up the hipjoint and put it back together and he starts the recovery. but it is an operation that was first talked about a long

time, that he has been putting off for a long time. many, many, time, that he has been putting off fora long time. many, many, many months. more than a year in fact. so he was trying to time it right. he was trying to just keep going and keep going and maybe beef up his strength to support the hip. it didn't work and he went for the surgery. now he has to be careful. but he is positive. he is determined to be back and mentioned playing at wimbledon again next year. so i'm sure we will see him. serena has thanked officials for seeding her. but there is controversy around it? yes because the rules around female players returning after having a baby are open to interpretation. the wimbledon officials have chose on the interpret them in their way and make her the 25th seed. that means

you knock others further down and out. but serena is a force of nature. she is you knowjust an icon of the game and i'm sure everybody here wanted to see her back, even though she has recently had a child. she is due to play today at one o'clock. but the one thing that i would say that is unusual for their decisions, is she is not on centre court, but she is on court one. i'm not sure why that is. roger federer is due on centre court this afternoon. serena will play at one o'clock on court no one. it will be brilliant to see her. but you have to say, you will know this, any woman what has had had a baby, it can takea woman what has had had a baby, it can take a long time to recover, evenif can take a long time to recover, even if you're one of the best athletes in the world and is she going to be 100%? we will have to

see. who is playing. serena is playing on court no one. roger federer is playing on centre court at one o'clock. so the crowds will have some fantastic tennis to watch. outside the queue is already huge and having a lot of fun. i don't know if you saw, an interesting press co nfe re nce know if you saw, an interesting press conference from roger federer yesterday, when a female journalist said to him, are you aware this year, what is it, you're looking very handsome. he responded really well and he just joked about very handsome. he responded really well and he justjoked about it and laughed it off. but you need to have a bit ofa laughed it off. but you need to have a bit of a sense of humour for the questions you get asked in wimbledon press co nfe re nces . questions you get asked in wimbledon press conferences. thank you. not sure if a man had asked it to a woman. they wouldn't have dared would they? thank you sally. and on the line is david lloyd — the former british davis cup captain.

probably worth just explaining how the seeding works at wimbledon? serena is 25th seed. is it a fair seed for her? yes, ido, based yes, i do, based on past success. wimbledon has a unique seeding system, as david is aware. they do not take the atp or the wta ranking, they have a very unique formula to work out the seeding. plus the fact she is a previous champion. she is incredibly successful and i do think thatis incredibly successful and i do think that is fair. i wonder if it penalises others who have worked all yearfor penalises others who have worked all year for a penalises others who have worked all yearfor a top 30 penalises others who have worked all year for a top 30 two place when serena took time off from september? -- 32. i serena took time off from september? —— 32. i agree with that but i also agree she should be seeded. she led the number one seed in the first

round and she beat her, the number one seed would not be happy. serena would not play if she does not think she would win for the wimbledon is her favourite place and she would win for the wimbledon is herfavourite place and i definitely wa nt to herfavourite place and i definitely want to see her. no doubt about it. in terms of andy murray, what is your view of him pulling out?|j in terms of andy murray, what is your view of him pulling out? i know what he is going through. hip is a dangerousjoint to what he is going through. hip is a dangerous joint to get wrong. i am not surprised. a big competition, it is very hard. my problem is, he goes to america and when you play on a ha rd to america and when you play on a hard court, like they do in the states, it is very much harder on your body than grass. it is a big risk i think to go on your body than grass. it is a big risk i think to go onto cement type courts in america with hip problems. it will bea america with hip problems. it will be a long way back for andy fulda it is tragic for him because he loves wimbledon and we love to see him bat, if he has no chance and he will hurt his body for ever, then he has

to make the right decision. hurt his body for ever, then he has to make the right decisionlj hurt his body for ever, then he has to make the right decision. i am in total agreement with david. as a former player you must look after your body. there has been so much pressure on andy to come back for wimbledon. it is with a very sad heart he has withdrawn but it is the right decision. andy is incredibly resilient and he will come back. i do not think it is the right time and he has made the right decision. chris evatt, three—time wimbledon champion, is calling for the women's final to be played on the sunday, so thatis final to be played on the sunday, so that is the finale, the final that brings the curtain down on the tournament. what do you think? i think it would be a fabulous idea. they did used to do that. the ladies singles used to conclude the tournament on the saturday with the men's final on saturday. -- on the friday. andy spoke very strongly in vehemently about the sexism that

occurs and the fact with the matches. there is a 2—1 ratio at the moment on centre court and court one regarding male to female matches. i would like to see a shift. wimbledon is doing huge amounts regarding quality with the prize money and lots to do with females and tennis. it would be lovely to see a shift regarding match scheduling and also the fact, to have the women's final on the sunday would be amazing, i think. how long until wimbledon makes a 50/50 split of male and female playing on the centre court? wimbledon is a law unto themselves. they tend to make the right decisions in the end. sometimes they area bit decisions in the end. sometimes they are a bit slow. the bit the other grand slams have is they don't... the second week of wimbledon, it is men's one the second week of wimbledon, it is men's one day, women is the next day. other tournament still have women and men up until the last

couple of days. that might be a way around it. now, if you have second tuesday tickets, it is only ladies singles and if you have the win. maybe they can mix it a bit like that. —— the men. wimbledon will make the right decision in the end. how do you think i let them is and joanna quanta will do? wimbledon, five sets, who knows? ——jo konta. jo konta has lost a bit of confidence. british players, they love wimbledon. when they go to wimbledon, suddenly they become much better than other tournaments. i think they can both do well. how far do you think they will go? tough question. jo konta, i reckon she has a good track record at wimbledon. i reckon the quarters, semi. quarters.

kyle eastmond is playing brilliant tennis at the moment. i think you can get quite far. mentally he has become much stronger. andy has done a lot of men touring with him. i have a lot of confidence in the brits at the moment. —— mentoring him at the moment. here's some sport now with will. another big shock at the world cup. spain going home and russia into the quarter—finals. amazing scenes last night. spain went out. a huge shock. the two most recent champions, germany and spain, were both expected to lie in wait for england in russia but they have been knocked out, leaving gareth southgate's team as the second highest—ranked side in their half of the draw,

behind sixth—placed switzerland. world cup which keeps on surprising. it looks like it was going to be pretty straightforward with spain taking the lead. that was the equaliser with russia from the penalty spot just before equaliser with russia from the penalty spotjust before the break. dzouba. went to a penalty shoot out. the goalkeeper akinfeev, the hero of the day. those scenes of celebration in moscow. russia reach the quarter—finals for the first time in 48 years. into the last eight for the first time since the breakup of the soviet union. look at the scenes around moscow after that win. not many people have been to bed. have a listen to this! i am pretty sure that is illegal and russian police would not have been too fond of that. amazing scenes in russia last night. all the squares full as

russia head into the last eight of their own tournament. croatia—denmark also went to penalties but what a start to that game. two goals in the opening four minutes. mathiasjorgensen put denmark ahead with less than a minute played. croatia responded quickly with a bit of luck. mario mandzukic equalised. luka modric missed a penaltyjust before the end of extra time. 1—1 it finshed, penalties loomed. danijel subasic saved three for croatia with barcelona's ivan rakatic sealing their place in the last eight. and what about england? it means hopefully that things are opening up for them? it looks that way. the three remaining favourites are only about half of the draw. the england tea m about half of the draw. the england team have been playing in repino before their last 16 tie against colombia. 22 of the 23 men all train this morning about from fabian dave who is back in the uk after the birth of his new child. —— delph.

one of england's, colombia, sweden or switzerland will be in the final, along with potentially russia as well. danny rose was getting clattered. it is his birthday, so i think they are giving him the bumps. they have had two world cup knockout stage wins since 1990. not too many. harry kane is in prime position for the golden boot. he is top scorer in the golden boot. he is top scorer in the tournament with five goals. i like to give myself targets. i set myself one before the world cup which i will keep to myself for now. i knew on target? i am on target so far. i knew ahead of target? not yet. i far. i knew ahead of target? not yet. lam far. i knew ahead of target? not yet. i am on target, i am on target. it is important that if i get to that earlier than expected then i will set another one. if they are not as good as i wanted then i will

be patient and wait until i do get there. harry kane not giving anything away. two more last—16 ties today. brazil mexico is the 3 o'clock kick—off with belgium taking onjapan at 7pm. that's all the sport for now. more for you just ater 10. twelve boys and their football coach have been missing in northern thailand for nine days. they were last seen last saturday when they went to explore a cave complex with their coach. their bikes were found abandoned at the entrance and shortly after, heavy rain sent torrents of water through the cave. a huge rescue operation is underway. i'm joined by our correspondent jonathan head, who is in thailand. what's the latest on the rescue? iam down i am down close to the cave entrance. they have sealed it off but, where people have been walking up but, where people have been walking up through the trees, that is how you get into the case. that is how

the boys got into the caves. people are coming in going all the time for the bit is the big search and rescue operation in the history of this country and i would imagine one of the biggest cave rescues there has ever been. the authorities are throwing everything at this. helicopters are carrying heavy digging machinery onto the tops of mountains and hope they might find a way into the caves that way. through this entrance there have been teams of multinational divers, including three british cave rescue experts whojoined three british cave rescue experts who joined the navy and have three british cave rescue experts whojoined the navy and have been pushing ahead. last week the very heavy floodwaters rose a lot and drove the divers back. they have managed to get back probably within less tha n managed to get back probably within less than a mile of where they think the boys are likely to have sheltered, a high cave. it is very challenging. if i get the camera to point at the ground, if you see the mud on the ground, this mode is

swirling through the caves. it is what is in the water. —— this mode. there is no visibility and strong currents. they have reached a point where they have to get through a narrow tunnel and then they reckon they can probably get to this high area within 2a hours of doing that. it is not quite predictable. if these boys are alive, and we do not know that. they could well be because it is warm. there is a real chance of getting to them. at this stage there have been no messages or anything that tells us which part of the caves they are in, so chances are still fairly slim will stop divers are staying the night deep in the caves. —— are fairly slim. divers are staying the night deep in the caves. -- are fairly slim. just ta ke the caves. -- are fairly slim. just take us back to the beginning of how

all unfolded? these boys are members ofa all unfolded? these boys are members of a local football team all unfolded? these boys are members of a localfootball team in all unfolded? these boys are members of a local football team in the north of thailand —— a local football team. they are in the north of thailand. after birth practice they went into the caves and wanted to explore them to celebrate the birthday of a friend. thailand has two marked seasons, the dry season where there is not much water and the wet season, which has come very early this year. there was a torrential downpour while they were in the caves. their bikes are locked to the railings of the cave entrance. they did not come home. when the bikes were discovered in some of their families had when the bikes were discovered in some of theirfamilies had an idea about the planned to go into the caves and everyone figured out what had happened. the navy divers are more used to diving in the sea than in caves. they were brought up and tried very hard to get through to them. they made a lot of progress and then we had more torrential

rain. there are a lot of forests around here. we have been hacking through the hills, trying to find small gaps and fishes in the rock to lead us down to the caves. this effort has been going on now, co nsta ntly. effort has been going on now, constantly. it is much more organised. they have a lot of pumps in there. they are pumping out 10,000 litres of water is an hour to try to get the water levels down. —— water and power. nobody can be sure when they get through. nobody knows what state the boys are in. —— 10,000 litres of water an hour. coming up... there are warnings that the moorfires could burn for another week. we'll speak to someone who's had a trench built around his house to try and save it from the blaze as well as the firemen trying to put it out. it's the biggest crunch week for theresa may since, well, the last crunch week.

in a meeting at chequers, the prime minister's country retreat, this friday the cabinet are meeting yet again to try to hammer out an agreement on customs arrangements for the uk after brexit. in a letter in today's times, the conservative mpjacob rees—mogg, an ardent brexiteer, has publicly warned the prime minister she must deliver the deal she promised. —— in the daily telegraph. let's talk to norman smith. it isa it is a big week but we are getting closer to the time. we have reached decision time. everyone believes mrs may must set out a clear plan. we have reached the baldrick moment. it seems they may have come up with a cunning plan. the two proposals for

the customs arrangement which they floated for weeks and months, they basically both have run into brick walls will stop brexiteers unhappy with one former remainers unhappy with one former remainers unhappy with another. —— into brick walls. it seems that her team will float in new idea. it is an entirely new proposal and is not a tweak to any existing arrangement. it does not involve extending the transition time. we will still be leaving finally in december, 2020. it is guesswork that it will be a half in/ harse out suggestion, whereby we would abide by a lot of the single market rules and regulations when it came to goods but not when it came to services. the thinking is that would get around the problem of friction at the border in terms of additional restrictions and regulations, business might face if they wanted to export, i don't know,

dishwashers, tumble dryers, you name it. while at the same time living is open to strike free trade deals in services where we are strong. can you sell it to the brexiteers. they have already been grumbling and making ominous warnings. as you say, jacob rees mogg in the daily telegraph this morning saying, if theresa may gives in on any red lines on the single market or the customs union there will be trouble, specifically brexiteers could vote against it and that could bring down theresa may. the tories could be out of power like they were under a former conservative prime minister, robert peel, for nearly 30 years. he urges theresa may to stand up to what he calls the metropolitan establishment of fashionable society and the beautiful people. there is a warning from jacob rees mogg about theresa may having to stand up to

fashionable metropolitan opinion. he'll so goes on to say to her, on the irish border issue, which we know has been one of the critical issues. he says, there is no insurmountable problem with the irish border. we need to call the irish border. we need to call the irish bluff. he speaks for a sizeable segment of tory brexiteer and they‘ re he speaks for a sizeable segment of tory brexiteer and they're gathering their pitchforks, in case theresa may backs off. but his interevens has infuriated some in government, including the foreign office minister. look at what he put up on twitter today. he sai rees mogg's insolence is too much. so we may have a baldrick like

cunning plan emerging, but the division between the brexiteer and remainers still remains as deep as ever. thank you. full firefighting operations have resumed this morning at the winter hill moorland fire near bolton. a major incident was declared on saturday after two fires merged due to increasing wind speed — and fire brigades from acros the country have travelled to the north west to assist the effort. with no significant rain forecast for the next week, there are fears the fires will rage for many more days. here's a reminder of how the fires took hold. i think pragmatically

we are going to see a similar scale to this incident over the next few days. whether we can scale down towards the end of the week to more dampening down and more targeted interventions just to try finalise the incident. i wouldn't rule out at this stage that we won't be on this fell for a matter of weeks. the fire here is spreading notjust through this very dry grass, but also underneath the ground where the soil is very peaty. firefighters are finding they'll put out one area of fire. but the ground underneath is still so hot and it'll be back alight just minutes later. really over the week ahead we're hard pushed

to find any rain at all, even though showers in the english channel are fading away. good spells of sunshine, and on the whole it should feel very warm. our reporter inzamam rashid is on winter hill and we can speak to him now. fill us in, what is the latest? i'm just on the foot of winter hill where the fire has been going for five days. it is the highest point, one of the highest point in the north—west. you can see where the smoke is going across these moorlands. firefighters have been tackling pockets of fire this morning, which keep spreading. that is down to the conditions. it is windy up here today. it has been windy up here today. it has been windy over night as well and it is

getting hotter hour—by—hour and the ground that is being engulfed by the fire is so dry, the fire spreads rapidly. we will see 150 fire crews here from across the country tackling the blaze which spreads across eight square kilometres. the helicopter has been throwing water on the fire. that is difficult for the men and the women on the ground to deal w it is a local incident, but it is on a national scale. thank you. and ben rich, the bbc‘s weather presenter is with me. let's also hear from mike sewell. the fire is about 150 yards from his house and the fire service have dug a trench around it to try and protect it. ben, when is it going to rain? that is the big question. the emergency services say they need a period of prolonged rain fall, which we

haven't seen for a some time. this graphic explains why it is so dry. the jet stream that spins up the wet weather is sitting a long way to the north—west of the uk. and that means we are stuck with high pressure and you can see the way the high pressure lingers as we run the sequence through this week. there are not many isobars and the winds will at least be lighter. but if wre show you the forecast for bolton, close to these fires, you can see the forecast for seven days, there is no rain and the temperatures stay high. the winds will ease a bit. but essentially the rain that is needed is not coming soon. we have a full forecast from you in just a moment. let's talk to mike. the fire is about 150 yards from his house. can

you hear me ok. about 150 yards from his house. can you hear me 0k. yes. you're wearing your mask, because of the smoke of course. how close are you? we're very close. from the boundary of our property it is about 50 yards, 60 yards away. the fire service told me thatjust extinguish the yards away. the fire service told me that just extinguish the fire just beyond the trench they dug. we have got a hose in our pond and they're pumping it at the moment. so it is pretty close. how worried do you feel? yes, very worried now. it's gradually got worse. the wind has changed direction, we are very high up changed direction, we are very high up now. and before it was blowing away. what can the trench do then? the trench is acting as a braker. it

is about six foot wide. so it is act ing asa is about six foot wide. so it is act ing as a break between the house and the fire. have you ever known it to be this dry for so long before? no. it has never been like this. we have been here for about four years. we do get spots of fires. but nothing on this scale. the ground is absolutely dry as a bone. you're able to be there during the day. what about at night—time? able to be there during the day. what about at night-time? in the evening we have found we just live down the road. sorry if you can't hear me, we have the helicopter flying over. yeah, i can hear it. but we are staying with a family. right. well, obviously, we wish you all the best and we are praying for rain as well. thank you for talking

to us. i think we can talk to neil hardiman from the lancashire fire and rescue. can you hear me? good morning. thank you for talking us to. we have just morning. thank you for talking us to. we havejust heard morning. thank you for talking us to. we have just heard from morning. thank you for talking us to. we havejust heard from one resident who is worried. how bad is it? obviously, the incident which started last thursday has moved to an incident, well two incidents have evolved into one major incident and your viewers will have seen the footage. it is very challenging conditions. however, after declaring a major incident we have now got national resources to support us in dealing with that fire. and you have

heard from the resident there and tha nkfully heard from the resident there and thankfully there are not a lot of properties affected by this fire. and that particular property has a safety trench around it now, which specialist teams, fire teams, have created a zone which the fire will not break. because we have removed the fuel from where that trench is so it won't affect that property. but we maintain a presence around that property to ensure that should it deteriorate we can evacuate. is it deteriorate we can evacuate. is it realistic that it could take another week for the fires to be put out? i would suggest that we will be there certainly several days and the weather conditions, particularly the wind, is the challenge for us. if the wind changes direction, which has done several times. but our activities which are maximised

during the day time hours and you will have seen crews, the footage, it is real physical, hard work. we have the fire surrounded and we sort of keep it penned in, but the hotspots within it will burn until hopefully we get rain to extinguish it. thank you for giving up your time to talk us to. coming up... it's the split that's shocked the entertainment world — we'll bring you the details of cheryl and liam's breakup. let's get the latest weather update. we have talked about how dry it has been and the problems that has caused. we have also had a lot of warmth. some places started today above 20 degrees. there is more

fine, dry, warm weather to come through the rest of the week. this picture came from a weather watcher in cambridgeshire. a similar story in plymouth. but you can see some high cloud across the sky. a sign of something more unsettled in the south—west today. while it will stay warm this week, with some sunny spells and light winds, there is the risk of a shower, particularly in the south—west. you can see the way these lumps of cloud are circulating. we saw some thunder storms in the south—west yesterday and there could be more of that to come today. we have extra cloud sneaking in across the south—east of scotla nd sneaking in across the south—east of scotland and the north—east of england. it is not dry day with hot sunshine. in the south—west, most places will stay dry. a few showers in south devon and cornwall. some could be heavy and thundery and also

affecting the channel islands. up to 28 degrees. but it could be up to 31. cooler across parts of scotland and northern ireland and still for the time being a keen breeze in the south. tonight, it will stay mainly fine, except for eastern england. last night temperatures didn't get below 20 degrees in some places, tonight should be cooler. perhaps a bit more comfortable. we go on into tomorrow morning. still cloud in the east. some extra cloud in the south. a small chance for a shower across the channel islands. but mainly try and sunny with top temperatures of 27 degrees. little changing through the middle of the week. high pressure in charge, not so many white lines and the winds will be

lighter by this stage. still a bit of extra cloud rolling into eastern coastal areas. a chance of a shower in northern scotland and south—west england. but temperatures still up at around 26 or 27 degrees. and then we look further ahead to the end of week and the weekend and it is more of the same. this exceptional spell of the same. this exceptional spell of dry weather goes on. the temperatures stay up in the mid to high 20s. some places touching the 30 degrees. there will be long spells of sunshine in just about all parts. still small chance for a shower in the north of scotland and maybe the south—west of england. where you catch a shower it could be heavy and thundery. but that long lasting rain that we need in the areas hit by the fires, is not coming soon and it looks dry for the next week at least. hello. it's monday.

it's just after 10 o'clock. i'm victoria derbyshire. our exclusive story today... more than 300 transgender children each year are now starting on a course of puberty—blocking drugs, according to figures seen by this programme. we've been hearing from young people about their experiences — good and bad — of being transgender. i am not going to try and like change everyone's opinion of trans people but people should know we are human, so, like butjust because we might like... we do not feel comfortable in our own bodies. so powerful. we will bring you more of that. and six young people — all transgender — who've been in london this weekend for a special prom night, are here to talk to us about their experiences. danish scientists have taken steps towards developing an artificial ovary that could help women at risk of becoming infertile, such as those who receive chemotherapy for cancer treatment. we'll be speaking to one of the scientists behind this breakthrough.

and 5 months after we brought you calls to classify steaking pets as a specific crime — today mps will debate just that — it comes after more than 100,000 people signed a petition calling for tougher sentences. i see it similar to how you would love your mother or your daughter or your son or your father. so, at the end of the day, how would you get over your mother being kidnapped or stolen? we'll hear more about the impact of this kind of crime. good morning. here's joanna gosling is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the day's news. downing street has come up with a new plan to try to break the deadlock in theresa may's cabinet over customs arrangements after brexit. it will be unveiled later this week, before the cabinet meets at the prime minister's country home, chequers, on friday. ministers have been involved in heated discussions in recent weeks as they try to find a plan they can all agree on.

there's more instability for germany's coalition government after the country's interior minister offered to resign. horst seehofer has been pushing for a tougher approach to asylum—seekers and was reported to be unhappy with last week's european union deal on migration. its not yet clear whether his resignation will be accepted by german chancellor angela merkel. police have launched an investigation after a 1k year old boy was stabbed in north london. officers were called to the scene at fairbridge road near islington at around seven o clock last night where the victim was found with a number of injuries. a 1a year—old boy and another 15—year—old have been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder. an 11—year—old — who had been arrested — has now been released. the people of mexico have elected their first left—wing president in recent history. andres manuel lopez obrador — a former mayor of mexico city defeated both of the two main parties who have governed mexico

for nearly a century. the campaign has been marred by some of the worst political violence for decades. an mp has called for bouncy castles in public areas to be temporarily banned following the death of a young girl thrown from a seaside inflatable in norfolk. according to eyewitness accounts, the inflatable trampoline exploded, flinging the girl into the air. she was taken to hospital but died of her injuries. an investigation involving the health and safety executive, local authority and police is under way. more than 300 transgender children a year are now starting on a course of puberty—blocking drugs, according to figures seen by this programme. the treatment which can only be prescribed on the nhs after the patient has started puberty, gives youngsters time to decide if they want to live as a man or a woman. celebrity couple cheryl tweedy and liam payne have announced they are splitting after more than two years together. the former girls aloud star and one direction member confirmed the decision in posts on social media.

they said they were "sad" to make the announcement, and it had been a tough decision. the couple have a son, bear, who was born in march last year. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 10:30am. i want to read this message from helen. she tweeted yesterday. she said today my son was beaten up at school, her lip was split, his face was bruised and he has swollen bumps behind his ear. he did nothing to provoke it except for being trounced his 1a years old. this is not ok. —— being trans. in a moment we will speak to some young people about their experiences growing up as trans. do get in touch with us throughout the morning. you can message us on twitter or

send an e—mail. there is whatsapp as well. and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. england have trained in repino this morning before they make their way to moscow for tomorrow night's world cup last 16 tie against colombia. all smiles in today's session. 22 of the 23 man sqaud all trained apart from fabian delph, who's back in the uk after the birth of his 3rd child and what an opportunity for gareth southgate's side to go far in the tournament after the shocks we've seen so far. what a day for the hosts yesterday! spain are the latest giants to be eliminated which means no previous winners now stand between england and the world cup final. it looked like it was going to be straightforward for spain when sergei ignashevich turned into his own net with 12 minutes gone. but russia equalised just before the break, artom dzouba scoring from the penalty spot. it was 1—1 after extra—time, so it went to penalties. and goalkeeper igor akinfeev was russia's hero, denying koke and then iago aspas to spark

the celebrations at the luzhniki stadium. and they'll play croatia in the quarter—finals, after they beat denmark. the danes went ahead inside the first minute, thanks to mathiasjorgensen of huddersfield but barely three minutes later, croatia were level. a bit of luck for mario mandzukic. 1—1 it finshed, penalties loomed. danijel subasic saved three for croatia with barcelona's ivan rakatic sealing their place in the last eight. one man whose world cup is over, liverpool forward mo salah, has signed a new five—year contract with the club. the egypt internationaljoined for £34 million from roma last summer and has scored ali goals in 52 appearances. his new deal does not contain a release clause. liverpool managerjurgen klopp says "it demonstrates two things very clearly — his belief in liverpool and our belief in him," wimbledon gets underway today but they'll be no andy murray, who still isn't quite ready for the strains of a grand slam.

he won wimbledon in 2013 and 2016 and said he pulled out with a "heavy heart" — and as his motherjudy murray confirmed, he's thinking about his long—term fitness. playing best of three sets is very different from playing best of five sets and, of course, you would not wa nt to sets and, of course, you would not want to put yourself into a situation where you could not com plete situation where you could not complete the match or you may be one the first match and could not com plete the first match and could not complete the second match. because it is all so new, you he has been out of the game for 11 months, you do not know how your body will we act. it is not even cheering the match, it is how you are the day after. —— will react. ijust think he felt he was not ready for five sets just yet. leeds rhinos have sacked brian mcdermott, who was the longest—serving head coach in super league. he's spent eight seasons at the club,

leading them to eight major titles, including four grand final wins. but leeds have lost a record seven games in a row, they're eighth in the table with four games remaining in the regular season. mcdermott says he's "extremely disappointed". that's all the sport for now. i'm back at10.30am. good morning. the national conversation around trans issuesis issues is full of discussions around single sex toilets and whether trans people should be declaring what gender they are rather than getting a gender recognition certificate. meanwhile young trans people are often ignored, or understandably if their voices are heard — like in ourfilm earlier — very young trans children and their parents want to speak only on condition of anonymity, for fear of trolling or worse, which is competely understandable. however today we ve brought together a group of trans teens, to ask them what 5 it like being a young person and trans in britain in 2018? all are happy to talk openly,

using thier real names and showing you their faces. their parents have also given their consent too. let me introduce you to catherine rose green, who is 15, luke weteridge who is 17, merrow nyx, 16, who is non—binary which means merrow doesn t identify as male or female. alex who's 15 and his sibling eleni arnaouti a 1k year old who identifies as non—binary, and poppy tine, who's 12. thank you all very much coming onto the programme. we have interesting m essa g es the programme. we have interesting messages from people around the country who have trans children or who are trans themselves. you are here because she went to the first trans prom in london on saturday

night. what was it like? it was great. why? it was a safe place for everyone. we could all be ourselves and express ourselves without fear of peoplejudging us and express ourselves without fear of people judging us for doing something that would not be classed as binary, i guess. we use binder stra ps as binary, i guess. we use binder straps for trans men to bind. it gives you a flat chest, basically. it gives you that look, so you pass more as a male. how it gives you that look, so you pass more as a male. how was it gives you that look, so you pass more as a male. how was it for you? i enjoyed it because i got to meet new people and make new friends. it was great. everyone was so kind and accepting. at about you? i liked the freedom tojust be accepting. at about you? i liked the freedom to just be yourself. accepting. at about you? i liked the freedom tojust be yourself. yes. and not have to worry about, like, whether you are binding completely

perfectly or not or your voice, if you singing an out of tune or anything, you could be completely free. did you feel free? i felt like it was a space we did not have to be trans kids or teenagers. you are just teenagers and people having fun ata just teenagers and people having fun at a prom. what about you? it was a safe place. we did not have to worry about anyone being homophobic because we are all non—binary or trans. it is a place where we can be ourselves and not have to worry. how was it for you? people usually, they would, like, judge you for what you we re would, like, judge you for what you were and what your gender is, so, usually, when we were at the prom it was really fun because he did not ca re was really fun because he did not care and people did not know who you up, so you got to know people and they did notjudge you, or they accepted you, who you are and we

have loads of fun. some of you have been to your own school prom. you did, alex. he wore a suit and a waistcoat. what was the reaction? i have been out of school for a gear and a half. it was an ok atmosphere. most people call me alex and use he and him pronouns. it was an accepting atmosphere. some people would laugh at me and say, is that alex? but it felt right to be an astute and beether. compared with the trans prom, that beats it about a thousand times. —— to be in the suit. i decided to go to my prom wearing a dress, in full make—up and heels, to prove that even if the

school will not accept me, it does not matter. i am still me and they cannot stop that. what was the response? i got a lot of upstairs for the quite a few comments on social media after i posted pictures of my prom. i did not really enjoy the prom that much but, oh well. but you did it? yes. a huge question. tell the audience what it is like growing up as trans or binary in britain in 2018? s, trans it is quite political. at the moment it is like a very political thing. because it's so in the media's eye and there's such a debate about it. it can be difficult to ignore hate or people's opinions that aren't. .. positive to ignore hate or people's opinions that aren't... positive towards being trans. what would you say,

luke? i feel it can be empowering, that you have a voice, that you can do something. for my photography project i'm doing a topic on self— portraits showing my project i'm doing a topic on self—portraits showing my transition to show people what it is like being transgender. i don't think it is represented well in the media. it can be empowering to have a voice. what about you ? can be empowering to have a voice. what about you? it is good, but there is so many people that don't understand, so it is unless you have got sort of... for like it is difficult to say, because so many people experience it so differently. like nobody's the same in this community. we're all like, even though we're all similar, we all have different... sort of like experiences. so it is hard just to say for one person when somebody

could experience something totally different. what would you say? i think it is quite good, because as a young tra nsteens, i feel like think it is quite good, because as a young transteens, i feel like we get more opportunities and we are luckier than some other kids, they don't always have the opportunities and love and care that we do.|j and love and care that we do.” would say that i think we're quite lucky, because more people are getting to understand who we all are and the lgbt communities and they're noticing the bad stuff happening and they start to feel more good about it and like accept it more and understand that everyone goes through something bad. no matter like who you are. have all of you gone through something bad? yes. all of you? yes. go on. i know you

dropped out of school, because of harassment. when i came out ought school especially i faced a lot of harassment from fellow student and when we brought it to the attention of the school, they didn't act, they didn't put measures in place to try and help me. what could or should they have done? there should have beena they have done? there should have been a punishment for some of the things that happened. people would shout... slurs at me in hallways and misgender me and laugh about it and i feel like if there had misgender me and laugh about it and ifeel like if there had been misgender me and laugh about it and i feel like if there had been a punishment or an assembly saying, treat people in your school with respect and the kindness they deserve. so the school didn't respond very well. in terms of couege? respond very well. in terms of college? the college, it was a different experience. my class mates, they were all really

accepting, they accepted me as myself. but i had a tutor whojust wouldn't accept that i used the they pronouns and they wouldn't accept that i was non—binary and used a non—binary name, that i felt comfortable with and i had to stop going for my own mental health and safety. wow. i want to play you this clip of a 13 talking about the kind of abuse he has received and his plea to everyone not to judge people who are trans. you have received abuse from one person that you are at school with and given me permission to read this out. and there are some words, i can't use, because they're horrible,

vile swear words. but you're ok with me reading this. the reason is for what purpose? just to kind of raise awareness of what some people say to us. and like how it can affect us. so you received this message. "if i see you alive at school on monday, i'm going to leak the fact you're actually a little trannie and not even a boy. you will never live it down. so do it. goodbye, pathetic... c—word. see you in hell." down. so do it. goodbye, pathetic... c-word. see you in hell." it'sjust really messed up. i was dead upset when i got it. some peoplejust don't realise the effects that the words can have on people. because oh, it is a silly message. but it is just like it sucks to have people say that kind of stuff about you. this person is urging you to take your own life yes. that is

unbelievable. how does that make you feel as his mum? it is incredibly hurtful that another child could even think to say that to another child. but as a parent, it is like... you haven't got control over what goes on at school and as far as an online forum, it is removed from reality and i think children with those kind of attitudes feel freer to see those kind of things, maybe they wouldn't say it to cassie's face. what would you say to people who hate transpeople or think they do? perhaps because they don't understand? like, i get it. some people just like do not understand. like that is ok. people have their own opinions on things. i'm not

going to change everyone's opinion. but people should just know that we are humans and just because we might look, wejust don't are humans and just because we might look, we just don't feel comfortable in ourown look, we just don't feel comfortable in our own bodies. that is not a valid reason to send us hate... like i don't know, like being trans is just like, it isjust i don't know, like being trans is just like, it is just part of us and i think like wejust just like, it is just part of us and i think like we just shouldn't be judged for it. april brilliant piece on trans kids right now on #victorialive, no one should have to suffer this abuse. even if you are gender critical/concerned with parents why would you send death threats to actual children? even if you can t get on board why would you treat anyone this way? angi says in years to come some of these children will have changed their minds and be suing their parents. daniel world gone mad.

sorry but trans parents are forcing this in some cases. don't get it myself. have any of you been forced by your pa rents to have any of you been forced by your parents to change your gender or identify as non—binary. parents to change your gender or identify as non-binary. it is absurd. who would think that i'd be forced to come out as trans and have to go through a waiting list that's gone up to two—plus years, i have to wait over a year on hormone blockers. and it's like... i want tokes press express myself like this. if people say i'm being pressured they don't understand what it is like to have be trans, because i think trying to force a gender on someone doesn't work. the thing is we have realised that people are trying to force a gender on us and

we have broken out of that being forced like say for myself, i was like hammered with a lot of feminine stuff, i'm fine as expressing myself as male and it is so right. i don't think anybody showers forced to express themselves in any way. that is vile. what harassment have you experienced? even at a young age before i came out, it isjust a lot of slurs and foul language towards myself. when i came out, people would use the t—slur and other things and use nick names like insultingly, because my dead name, like the name i don't use any more, because it is no longer they name, because it is no longer they name, because i'm legally changed to alexander. they would use that. you say dead naming is a deliberate thing. it is harassing. it is a hate crime. if you do that and there is evidence you can get like punished

for that. so if people do that, it needs to be addressed more like harassment in like the trans community. ben said, i knew! harassment in like the trans community. ben said, i knew i was transwhen i community. ben said, i knew i was tra nswhen i was 1a. community. ben said, i knew i was transwhen i was 1a. i now identify as non—bien richlt i only —— non—bien richlt i which i had come out sooner and not suffered for five yea rs. out sooner and not suffered for five years. it affected my mental health andi years. it affected my mental health and i felt alone, years. it affected my mental health and ifelt alone, because i had no trans friends until i was 17. i'm 22 and have been on the testosterone for almost a year. i'm so proud of these young people coming out and living their authentic selves. i wa nt to living their authentic selves. i want to ask you, you both identify as non—binary. do you lean towards the masculine or to the feminine?”

don't lean towards either gender. i'm neutral. i'm not male or female in any way. i would say i'm just the same, but sometimes we might choose to maybe wear more feminine or what is seen as feminine than masculine clothes, depending on how we feel on what way of the week. how does that work when you want to present in a particular way? some days i want to try and present as an droj nous and will try not to wear dresses. but i do wear dresses, i wear skirts, i wear colours and pinks and sparkles and clothes don't have a gender. they have been, we have been told if you wear a dress it is a woman's clothing, but it is not. they're just pieces of fabric. if it makes

us feel happy, we should wear them. you are not taking puberty blockers? no, your body is growing into that ofa no, your body is growing into that of a young woman. how do you feel about that? it makes me feel uncomfortable, because i don't identify as male or female. i would rather, if there was any way to not be either, i would ratherjust be that. but i don't think there is. i guess i will stay like this. but if ido guess i will stay like this. but if i do feel like i hate my body and if it gets worse, i think i might go on like blockers and change some stuff.

i will ask you more. maria said i was a trans teen in the 805. ,. . i was a trans teen in the 805. ,. . i was given a letter to carry in case i got arrested for being in public. things are better now, but some newspapers 5eem things are better now, but some newspapers seem to be things are better now, but some new5paper5 seem to be running negative campaigning. valerie, i'm a mum ofa negative campaigning. valerie, i'm a mum of a female to male child. people should understand the issues and how difficult it is for the person going through this. we will carry on this if you're watching on bbc two, we will hand over to the daily politics in a moment. if you wa nt to daily politics in a moment. if you want to carry on watching our programme tune into the bbc news channel.

i would like too call out to all foster ca rer5 to be i would like too call out to all foster carers to be open to the idea ofa foster carers to be open to the idea of a gender variant young person. you have not taken puberty blockers because it is too late and your body has already developed. would you consider surgery in the future? that i5 consider surgery in the future? that is what i want to go on to when i can, obviously, when i turn 18. is what i want to go on to when i can, obviously, when i turn18. and thatis can, obviously, when i turn18. and that is a big decision. explain what considerations you think about when you think about surgery in the future. because obviously it is something you cannot reverse, even

though i know it is what i want, it i5 though i know it is what i want, it is still a massive thing, any surgery is with the risk and things. you have to consider health and everything. and you are 12, were not having puberty blocking injections, i5 having puberty blocking injections, is it something you might think about? yes. i think when i get to the stage when my audience starts developing like into a male, i will go on to hormone blockers. there are some people who say that young people choosing to live in one gender or another isjust people choosing to live in one gender or another is just a fad, a phase you are going through, i know you will have heard it many times and some of you consider it to be incredibly agoni5ing but tell the audience why that is not right ——

incredibly patronising. everything isa incredibly patronising. everything is a phase, living is a phase, this happens to be the phase in my life i'm going to live with. i think it is silly to think of it as a phase. obviously you don't understand what being trans or non—binary is.” com pletely being trans or non—binary is.” completely agree. people say, like, 5o, completely agree. people say, like, so, being a guy isjust a phase and isaac actually the girl me was a phase because that part of me was not comfortable with having to express myself feminine league, with my old name, wearing dresses and having to attempt to do make—up and failing epically and all that stuff. it is finally coming to terms with this, the simplest way to put it is like a butterfly. you start off as

whatever it is and we cocoon into a butterfly. the caterpillar i5 whatever it is and we cocoon into a butterfly. the caterpillar is still growing and it needs to get to the stage where it can come into the cocoon and it has to be healthy and become the butterfly. i guess that i5 become the butterfly. i guess that is how we all are because we are at that stage, we know where we want to go and what we want to be and we're willing to become a butterfly and literally 5pread our wing5 willing to become a butterfly and literally 5pread our wings and become who we want to be. how challenging as it been for your pa re nts ? challenging as it been for your parents? i think at first, having to learn everything, because my parents did not know anything about it really. even me, you don't know everything when you're trans, you still have to learn. it is getting to grips with everything and then it

was like having to... my mum used to say morning over losing her daughter and gaining a son. it is learning everything again i guess. like grieving for the child she had and coping with the child you want to be? yes, gaining another one. at first, i went up to my mother and told her, i don't remember how but i remember telling the that i wanted to go by alex and by he slashed him. and at first it was not a good atmosphere. —— and by he/him. i was 13, 14. all of my friends use he/him and alex because i had a good environment of my friendship group because they were very accepting and

i had another trans friend at school and it is a safe place. my mum started militant after a few months when people were calling me he/him and alex and she saw how happy i was and alex and she saw how happy i was and how comfortable i was being alex. and howl and how comfortable i was being alex. and how i was a healthier person being alex. she started trying to call me alex and use he/him pronouns and now she is so accepting and obviously i am here because my mum is one of the most accepting people in my family.” wonder if it made things easier for you that alex had come out. wonder if it made things easier for you that alex had come outm wonder if it made things easier for you that alex had come out. it was a lot easier. i would say at first i was very confused. at first i was jealous because he was brave enough to come out and i wasjust scared. i was like, i don't know what i am so no one is going to be able to accept that because if i don't know what i

am, nobody else can tell me what i am. iasked am, nobody else can tell me what i am. i asked for alex's help and knowledge of what he knows. then i found out that i non—binary. he helped me. a final thought from all of you a sentence if you would. what i5 of you a sentence if you would. what is your message to the trolls from the haters, and also people who don't understand? with parents, i get that they might not understand as such but people like trolls, there is no point because at the end of the day we are all human and nobody can change who we are or stop u5 nobody can change who we are or stop us from being ourselves.” nobody can change who we are or stop us from being ourselves. i guess it is like, it doesn't affect them. they don't understand, try learning. if you hate it, why make someone's life miserable for them being themselves? it is just life miserable for them being themselves? it isjust horrible. leave it, if you don't like

something just don't say anything.” guess i would say i'm sorry you feel like you have to attack people. our lives don't affect them, they don't impact them, we're not trying to convert people to become trans! we just want to live our lives and be happy and safe as we are. trolling and hate, i don't see the point in it pull5 and hate, i don't see the point in it pulls up we alljust want to be happy in the bodies we want to be in. if you let us live our lives, we will be happy and we can leave you alone. when we get our surgeries and whatever, we can pass as who we are and you won't even know we are trans so just let us get to that stage of happine55 so just let us get to that stage of happiness and let us live.” so just let us get to that stage of happiness and let us live. ijust agree with everyone and what they said. it is like bullying, or like when our teachers like, if you do wa nt when our teachers like, if you do want to be here, be quiet, don't be here. like you said, when they put

hate must, there was no point because we are still going to stand up because we are still going to stand up for ourselves. some people get really hurt and actually end their lives because they are that hurt over what those people have said to them or what they have done to them. that'sjust heartbreaking them or what they have done to them. that's just heartbreaking because maybe if they have parents or carers, it is like they have lost someone. that's not always that great and they need more people to know about it. and a final word from p°ppy- know about it. and a final word from poppy. there is no point in hate. we haven't done anything to them. if we are happy, everyone to live as who we want to be, we can because it is not affecting anyone else. we are just the same person but as a happier person. thank you all very

much for coming on, really appreciate it. thank you for your time. your views are welcome. still to come, after two and a half years together, cheryl and liam have announced they have broken up. we will bring you the details in a moment. scientist5 will bring you the details in a moment. scientists in denmark have developed an artificial ovary which could be a game changerfor women who become infertile after having cancer treatment. we will speak to one of the scientists behind it. cheryl and liam payne have announced they are splitting up. in social media po5t5 they are splitting up. in social media posts they said it had been a tough decision to make. there been together for two years and they have a son born in march last year. fill u5 a son born in march last year. fill us in. there have been rumours for a while. the room of them going their

separate ways has been around since early this year and they appeared at the brits together and people called ita the brits together and people called it a stunt, that was in february. later on cheryl got annoyed and responded to tabloid speculation that it was over between them and alas, according to the sun newspaper, the separation happened two weeks ago. they have both issued an almost identical statement on twitter. liam is pretty much posted something identical announcing it. after two and a half years and with a one—year—old child, they are going their separate ways. jack white is

celebrity news editor from now magazine. various rumours about why they split up but what would you say? i think it is very hard unless you are in the relationship to know what is going on. there are a lot of pressures that come with being the two of the biggest pop stars in the country, conflicting schedules. they have spent more time apart than they have spent more time apart than they have been together because of liam's going to america, cheryl is one of our biggest pop stars here so it is trying to make a relationship work with a young baby and it is really difficult. are the pressures any more intense because they work in show business? more than anybody else going about their lives? juggling kids and jobs? no, their life is no more difficult than yours or mine, but every move they make is

in the media. they come under fire for every move they make. is there going to be any backlash against either of them? they have both got big pr machines behind them. i think it is hard to say who will come worth out a bit. cheryl has been through it publicly twice before so she knows how to play the game but this is liam's first public relationship breakdown. my money is on the cheryl having the upper hand. not that it is a competition or anything. thank you very much. next, having an animal stolen is every pet owner's worst nightmare but would top senators deter thieves? that will be debated in parliament and we will be debated in parliament and we will speak to a victim of that crime in the next few minutes. scientists

in denmark have developed an artificial ovary that could lead to improved fertility preservation treatment. the technique is aimed at women who are at risk becoming infertile through cancer treatment including chemotherapy and radiotherapy which can damage the ovaries. experts say the it exciting but many more tests are needed. we can talk now to suzanne from an institute in copenhagen which has developed the treatment. and also the medical director of create fertility, one of the biggest clinics in europe which treats both nhs and private patients. what has been discovered? thank you for having me on your programme. we have preserved always for women going for cancer treatment and otherwise these

women would be rendered infertile because of the chemotherapy and radiation. we take out the ovary and freeze it and transplant it back when she has overcome her cancer and is done with the treatment. sorry, you take the whole ovary out and freeze it and transplant it back when the treatment is over? yes, and this method existed for 20 years and it is very successful. we have around 100 babies born worldwide after this. it is a successful treatment but we have a very small, selected group of patients which we need another option for. that is because they have a cancer like leukaemia minibaev cancer cells would be spread all over the body including the ovary and for these

women we cannot put back the tissue —— which means the cancer cells would be spread. what we do in the new development we take the tissue and remove all the cells, thereby removing all the cancer cells that could be there, and we transfer only the eggs to the scrap old we have left. —— the scaffold. then we are sure there are no cancer cells in it. and this is what we call the reconstructed ovary. thank you for explaining that both what you think of it? it is a very exciting development for young women with cancer to preserve their future fertility by using this method and also without the fear of cancer

recurrence. it is in its very early stages at the moment i'm a proof of concept at this stage and we need to do more —— it is proof of concept. i congratulate the team in copenhagen for getting to this stage. the advantage, if it works, if we could re move advantage, if it works, if we could remove the risk of cancer recurrence , remove the risk of cancer recurrence, that women can conceive naturally as opposed to relying on ivf. i would say that at this stage it is promising and exciting but we need more work in humans in order to establish its safety and efficacy. there is no two ways about it that it is ahead of the game and this team has been working on it for a long time and to see that they have been able to remove cancer cells, and see that replaced with normal ovarian follicles. susanne, you have

done this in mice so far, is that correct? yes, but it is important to underline we are using human tissue, human eggs and the human scaffold that we call it, so these parts are human. we use the mice as a model for women. it is important to highlight we're using the human tissue and this is quite unique because it is the real thing but i totally agree that we need much more work to be done in the future for us so this is an important initial step. thank you very much for coming on the programme. thank you for your comments about the issue of trans

children going up. margaret has said, asa children going up. margaret has said, as a mother of a transgender male to female at aged 309i'm so relieved you have explained this so well. our case has caused near suicide —— aged 39. the break—up of the family, aggressive behaviour from family members but most of the my daughter's lost 39 years old she is now rebuilding her life and is at ease with itself at the carnage could have been avoided if it had been accepted when she was a child and had been understood. on facebook, molly says, when i was ninei facebook, molly says, when i was nine i wanted to be a boy like my brothers because they seem to have more fun than the friend i played with. i used to think i wish i was a boy, it is a transient emotion and i'm happy! boy, it is a transient emotion and i'm happy i did not have a choice as i would regret it. it likes time to find out who we are possible by and says, baggy for exposing the truth of what our trans children are put through all the irene says i work in

a primary school and i'm aware of two children who are not living at the gender they were assigned at birth. the other children, whilst curious, are accepting and supportive. james says i am yet to meet anyone who is transgender but i have worked with both gay men and women and i have had nothing but good experiences having known these open—minded and funny people, more so than a lot of straight people, as long as you treat them with the same kindness and respect as you would wa nt kindness and respect as you would want for yourself. and kira says, i ama want for yourself. and kira says, i am a young transgender girl, i was at the mermaid's prom on saturday with all the young people you had as guest today and i love them all and i'm proud of them coming on and discussing important issues. it is important that people notjust know the struggles we face growing up trans in society but that we still have fun and enjoy ourselves and showed that really we are just like eve ryo ne showed that really we are just like everyone else. thank you for those emptied them come in will stop some pretty news, cycling's doubling body, the uci, has dropped its drugs case against chris froome so he can

compete in this year ‘s case against chris froome so he can compete in this year '5 tour de france. the sample he gave in last yea r‘s race france. the sample he gave in last year's race in spain but that was at the vuelta a espana, had been found to have more than the maximum allowa ble to have more than the maximum allowable level of a to have more than the maximum allowa ble level of a su bsta nce called salbutamol but the uci as accepted the result was a consequence of aid permitted use of the drug. obviously that will be a huge relief to chris froome and his tea m huge relief to chris froome and his team as he is hoping to retain his tour de france title. an update on the storm we brought you back in february. about pets being stolen. campaigners claim that having your pet stolen is treated no differently to having your bike or phone stolen for example, and that it needs to be classed as a specific crime. since our report, more than 100,000 people have signed a petition calling for the other penalties and the issue is going to be debated at westminster today. the group behind the petition

says our covered helped get the ball rolling. this exclusive report featured the report of maxine and scooby do her missing dog, with an unusual talent. this is scooby. a playful 11—month—old yorkshire terrier chihuahua crossbreed party trick is singing along to this song. the last time max saw her dog on tuesday in september before she went to work. my son rang the landline and all! to work. my son rang the landline and all i could hear them saying was, mum, the house has been broken into, scooby is gone. and i wasjust screaming and crying and my work collea g u es screaming and crying and my work colleagues didn't know what to do. i

remember coming through here, going to the front door and looking at the big hole in the door and ijust remember collapsing and crying and crying. because he has gone, com plete crying. because he has gone, complete the con. every morning when you wake up it is like it has happened again —— completely gone. the first thing on your mind is where is he, what is he doing, is he being looked after? are they being kind to him? not a day goes by when you don't think about that. what would you say to the people, about how much it has consumed you and that you should move on?” how much it has consumed you and that you should move on? i can understand what they are thinking but, you know, isee understand what they are thinking but, you know, i see it similar to how you would love your mother or your daughter or your son or your father. at the end of the day, how would you get over your mother being

kidnapped or stolen? if they can think like that, that is how we feel about our dogs and cats, any of our animals. they are part of your family and your life and they are loved just as much. we can talk now tojed, the son of maxine, who you saw in the clip. garethjohnson is the conservative mp for dartford and he has campaigned on the issue of dog theft. debbie mattis is on the stolen and missing pet alliance, but hide this petition, and an elise is with us, she had her dog stolen, ralph, but she got him back. robbers broke into her home while she was at work. we spoke to your mum in february, what is the latest with scooby? unfortunately there has not been much of an update to present. we are still campaigning online with

our social media presence. but there has been no progression in terms of any sightings or getting him back.” am really sorry to hear that. your story is much happier. ralph was stolen, what was the impact when you realised he was not there when he got home? it was horrible, the worst thing i have been through, to find he was gone, just taken. it was awful. how did you get him back? social media. within a couple of hours, i had family and friends, people who did not know me were out looking for him and within a few hours he had over 6000 shares on facebook. it was making it to what angle to get him back. where was he found? about ten miles away, dumped at two o'clock in the morning in the snow. and you think because it was such a fuss, nobody wanted to try to

sell him on or whatever?” such a fuss, nobody wanted to try to sell him on or whatever? i think it wasjust getting rid of this dog because this lady was not stopping until she gets him back. gareth johnson, you have helped with this petition, the pack is being debated at westminster, this call for a change in the classification of stealing pets, will it go anywhere —— with the fact it is being debated. i hope so, we are waiting to see what the minister is going to save as to whether there are any plans to make it a specific offence but we also want the sentencing council to change it guidelines because there was too much emphasis placed on the value of the dog and treating it like some sort of property crime which it is definitely not. this is a theft of a memberof the family definitely not. this is a theft of a member of the family very often and the current weight we are dealing with it misses the point. i have a dog with about 50p at home but he is priceless to me this is devastating to both the owners and the dogs themselves on their taken from the owners and the law should reflect that but it does not at the moment. so should the sentencing guidelines.

why should the law reflect it? they are our most precious possessions. the sentencing council includes cars and bicycles but not our pets and in the theft act they refer to mushrooms and wild animals but not domestic pets. it is a simple amendment we are asking for. do you think the theft of dogs in particular is on the rise? yes, i have worked with loads of groups on facebook and this lady was probably helped by some of those. year on year it has got worse. and what is your reasoning you think? some are for ransom, some are for reward money. sadly some are passed on breeding farms and even a few have turned up after they have been involved in dog fighting. it is traumatic for the owner. they are pa rt of traumatic for the owner. they are part of our families. how is your

mum? what is the impact on your family of not having your dog at home? it has obviously been around ten months now. the first few months straight after was very tough times in the household. as everybody as stated here, the dog, whatever animal you have, they are a member of yourfamily. animal you have, they are a member of your family. it does impact directly. it is the not knowing that if the worst part, you just hope wherever he is that he is being looked after that you can never know for sure and it is one of those crushing feelings you get. i note for my mum it has really impacted her ——i for my mum it has really impacted her —— i know. for my mum it has really impacted her -- i know. i'm sorry to hear that. the stolen pets petition being discussed at westminster, what do you think needs to change to help protect owners? just you need a tougher law. people don't take into

consideration that they are treasured possessions, he is my baby and the police were not really that helpful when they came to the house, they were not really knowledgeable about it. a lot needs to change. he is very tired! is that his breakfast! —— he has had his breakfast. he has do have a little nap? yes, he likes a nap! thank you very much, all of you. we will see what happens with the debate and we will continue to follow this. we have a drop—in event at parliament this afternoon so any mp5 who cannot come to the debate, they have their social media picture and they can haveit social media picture and they can have it ta ken social media picture and they can have it taken with that. thank you very much. some breaking news on the story never covered on this programme. campaigners have lost a high court bid to challenge ealing

council's ban on demonstrations outside an abortion clinic in london. campaigners have lost the right to challenge that sowed the exclusion zone looks like it will go ahead and be allowed to continue. thank you very much for all your m essa g es thank you very much for all your messages today particularly on the issue of being trans and growing up asa issue of being trans and growing up as a trans team in written. we appreciate your openness and honesty —— being a trans teen. we are back tomorrow at nine o'clock. good morning. we started off with a lot of sunshine across the uk, a bit more cloud in scotland this morning

but that will start to clear and for many another day of sparkling sunshine. a lot of dry weather, maybe the odd shower in the south—west of the risk is very limited to the far south—west and foremost it is dry and sunny. a bit of cloud in the far south—east scotland, temperatures into the 205 and maybe 30 in the south—east of wales and towards the west country and even london. pool of further north in scotland and northern ireland. cloud coming inland overnight into south—east scotland and north east england but otherwise and north east england but otherwise a clear night to take us into tuesday. on tuesday and for the rest of the week, little change in the weather, a lot more sunshine, temperatures in the mid to high 205, some places reaching 30. goodbye. this is bbc news.

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