hello, it's tuesday, it's nine o'clock. i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. rescue teams are trying to get food and medical help to the 12 children and their football coach trapped deep in flooded caves in thailand. there is concern that if the water levels go up again, they will have to keep going back to the boys and support them as best they can in the caves until the water levels drop again to be able to get them to the next chamber beyond where they are at the moment, and that is at least five kilometres into this cave network behind me. we'll have all the latest on the rescue and on the british divers who found them. england take on colombia tonight in moscow hoping to win a place in the quarterfinals of the world cup. the england team haven't won a knockout game at a major tournament since 2006,

so how is captain harry kane feeling? obviously you're nervous, you're excited because there's a chance, a good chance that you're going to score. there's obviously a bit of pressure on it. but that's why i like to have the routine. sp every penalty i take, whether it's in training or in a game, i'm going through the same steps, same motions, same breathing. discredited "gay conversion" therapies are to be banned. it's part of the government's action plan to improve the lives of lgbt people in the uk. we've made some good progress in this country, we are a leader on lg bt this country, we are a leader on lgbt rights, this country, we are a leader on lg bt rights, but this country, we are a leader on lgbt rights, but we still have a long way to go. and we'll be speaking to two women who have undergone so—called gay conversion therapy at about 10:15. eloise parry died after taking slimming pills bought online. the man who sold them has been jailed for seven years. we'll talk to her mum about the dangers. hello, welcome to the programme.

we're live until 11 this morning. we will bring you a full weather forecast just before ten, we will bring you a full weather forecastjust before ten, how long is the hot weather going to last? or when is the rain coming?! and we are talking about gay conversion therapy, is it something you or someone therapy, is it something you or someone in your family have experience of? if you have undergone it, if you have carried gay conversion therapy out, do let me know your own experience. send us an e—mail, message us on twitter, use whatsapp as well. and the england game against colombia, if you are an england supporter, how do you think they need to win the game? don't say school moguls and the opposition, i

get that bit! but it is astonishing they haven't won a knockout game for so they haven't won a knockout game for so long. —— don't say score more goals than the opposition. our top story today, the boys trapped in a cave in thailand have been found alive, but they could remain stranded until october, as heavy rainfall hampers rescue efforts. british cave divers discovered the boys yesterday, nine days after they disappeared. rescuers face a daunting logistical challenge to bring them out of the cave system safely and are taking them four months‘ worth of food. andrew plant reports. how many of you? 13? brilliant! this is the moment the 12 missing boys realised that they would survive, hearing the voices of british experts sent to help with the search. 0utside on the hillside in northern thailand,

hundreds of people have been fighting against the floodwater that trapped the football team on the 23rd ofjune, never knowing if the boys were alive or dead inside, their parents forced to wait in hope outside. translation: it's unimaginable. i've been waiting for ten days. i never imagined this day would come. but their ordeal is not yet over. divers who reached the boys must now work out how to bring them back. translation: what we will send down there is food, but we're not sure if they can eat, since it's been ten days. we still need to get them out. food and medical supplies have been carried through. now rescuers may have to help the boys scuba—dive to safety, but that's treacherous, underwater, underground and in zero visibility.

the choice now — do they try to train the boys or wait perhaps for weeks for the floodwaters to recede? andrew plant, bbc news. at 9:15am, we will talk to the british cave rescue council and the former chair of the british caving association, who knows the duke british divers who found those boys and their coach, we will talk to them at quarter past nine. —— the two british divers. joanna gosling is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. an action plan designed to protect lesbian, gay, bisexual and tra nsgender people in the uk from discrimination has been announced by the government. the £45 million proposal addresses access to healthcare, education in schools, and the proposed ban of a controversial "gay cure" therapy. nick rotherham reports. people start abusing us. these men are just three

of the people that the government wants to help. the conversion therapy is like torture, you know, it's like a punishment. 40% of those who answered the survey said they had been victim of a hate crime. most never reported it. it's very hard to express the feelings. i mean, because we are also humans, so why people treat us like badly? more police training has been promised, but that's not all. 0n the back of the survey findings, the government has drawn up a list of more than 70 things it wants to do to improve the lives of the lgbtq community across the uk. there's still much more that we need to do to enable people to thrive, to access health—care services and to ensure that they can go about their daily business without fear or feeling intimidated. 0n the list — making sex education in schools more inclusive, appointing a national lgbtq adviser, and banning attempts to turn gay people straight. any sort of treatment that suggests that being lgbtq is a disorder,

that lgbt people need curing, is important to get rid of. the survey findings suggest that the lgbt community are still less satisfied with their lives than the rest of the uk population. nick rotherham, bbc news. a charity says thousands of parents are falsely accusing their estranged partners of domestic abuse so they can access legal aid and prevent access to their children. the shared parenting charity families need fathers says some solicitors are encouraging parents to file for injunctions, which are used in urgent abuse cases. there's been a 30% rise in non—molestation orders since legal aid was axed from everything but abuse cases in family courts in 2012. 32 women have died after being physically restrained in mental health units in the five years up to april 2017. the figures revealed by the charity agenda, which works with vulnerable women, says the trauma of being held down

can bring on heart attacks and cause some people to take their own lives. later this week there'll be third reading of a bill in parliament aimed at reducing restraint. police on the scottish island of bute are trying to piece together the final moments of a six—year—old girl whose body was found in woodland yesterday morning. residents joined the search for alesha mcphail, who was reported missing ataround 6:30am. the cause of her death remains unknown. 0ur scotland correspondent james shaw is on the island. alesha mcphail was reported missing in rothessay on the island of bute early yesterday morning. a few hours later, the six—year—old's body was discovered by a member of the public in woodland where police have since been carrying out detailed investigations. her death has caused immense shock and sadness in this small island town. detectives will want to understand exactly what happened to her as quickly as possible. there have been heartfelt

messages of sympathy and support on social media. flowers and cards have been left close to where alesha is thought to have been staying. at the moment, police are describing her death as unexplained. they've sought to calm people's fears about how she died, but they do need the public‘s help to make progress with their inquiries. there is a number of people through social media who were alerted to this missing child and came to assist in the area, and i would really like those that have not spoken to the police to come forward in the fact that we can establish who was there and maybe have critical information of what has taken place. the investigation into the death of alesha mcphail is onlyjust beginning. james shaw, bbc news, on the island of bute. tributes have been paid to a three—year—old girl who died after being thrown from an inflatable trampoline on a beach. the family of ava—may littleboy said she was no ordinary little girl. they said she made a lasting

impression on everybody she met. ava—may died in hospital after being thrown from the inflatable at a norfolk beach on sunday. one of britain's most wanted fugitives has been arrested in switzerland. mark acklom, who's a5, disappered in 2012 after defrauding a woman he was in a relationship with out of around £850,000. he was tracked down to a luxury apartment in zurich, late on saturday night. he's currently in a police station in zurich awaiting extradition hearing proceedings. a prison where six inmates have died this year has been described as overcrowded, chaotic and "controlled by prisoners" by a member of its independent monitoring board. hmp birmingham was the scene of a huge riot in 2016 involving 600 inmates. its monitoring board chairman said some live in inhumane conditions with rat infestations. gas has denied the claims saying it accepted there were challenges but it was making improvements. a roman catholic archbishop in australia has been sentenced

to 12 months in home detention for covering up child sexual abuse. the archbishop of adelaide, philip wilson, remained silent as a magistrate delivered the decision not to send him to jail. he is the most senior catholic globally to be convicted of the crime. the family of a severely epileptic boy have been given a special licence so they can fly home to county tyrone from london with his medicinal cannabis. billy caldwell‘s mother charlotte was stopped when she arrived at heathrow airport last month with seven bottles of the cannabis from canada prompting a debate about the availability of the drug. england take on colombia tonight in moscow to fight for a place in the quarterfinals of the world cup. the national team haven't won a knockout game at a major tournament since 2006, and gareth southgate has called it england's biggest knockout game in a generation. the heatwave is continuing to cause problems, as at least 15 properties have been evacuated overnight

because of a large grass fire in caernarfon in north wales. the fire, thought to be fuelled by dry conditions and raised winds comes as public health england maintains its level three heatwave warning across much of the south of britain. a disintegrating nike trainer worn by michaelj fox in the back to the future sequel has sold for more than £70,000. this left shoe, made for fox in his role as marty mcfly, was worn in the 1989 sequel, which sees marty and doc brown travel to a futuristic 2015, where shoes have power laces. the trainer is so fragile it was only made available to buyers in portland, oregon, as it would not withstand further transportation. the money raised will go to fox's foundation for parkinson's research. that's a summary of the latest bbc news, more at 9:30. thank you very much. if you are getting in touch, you are very

welcome, as you know. if you have undergone gay conversion therapy, let me know what your experience was and whether it worked. it is about to be banned by the government, we will talk to two women who have experienced it after ten o'clock this morning. 0bviously experienced it after ten o'clock this morning. obviously we will be talking about the england game a lot, england face... colombia in the round of 16 lot, england face... colombia in the round of16 in lot, england face... colombia in the round of 16 in the world cup, tim is at the bbc sport centre, and the day is here at last. thank goodness, the big one, as we have been mentioning all morning, england looking to win their first tournament knockout match in 12 yea rs tournament knockout match in 12 years when they play the colombians in moscow at seven o'clock tonight. england were out training yesterday at their repino base ahead of travelling to the russian capital. gareth southgate has called this the national team's biggest match in a decade and says the players are ready if penalties are required. england have the worst record of any team left in the tournament when it comes to penalty shootout defeats. 0nce

once we get to that point, we know oui’ once we get to that point, we know our sort of ranking of players, what we have seen, notjust with us but over a number of years in players that have taken more in certain matches than others. so we are prepared. but there is a lot of football before that point. the dreaded p word, victoria! please not again! too much pain over the years for may. this is a team that doesn't have that baggage, we are told! let's hope it doesn't get to that point, but it could do. amazing game last night? absolutely brilliant. this tournament that has surpassed all expectations. and last night no one predicted japan would lead belgium 2—0 with 20 minutes to go. but with the shock on, the belgians produced something really special. scoring two in quick succession, and then with the last kick of the match, nacer chadli won it. many people think this could finally be belgium's time.

but they have the brazilians next in the quarterfinal. brazil continue to pick up pace and were comfortable 2—0 winners against mexico yesterday. you—know—who got one of the goals. the mexicans have now lost seven last 16 matches in a row. they call it the "curse of the last 16". and that goalscorer neymar, it looked like he'd been cursed yesterday too. what do you think of the theatrics? needless to say he carried on, despite an opposing player standing on his foot, scoring the first and setting up the second. he can't have been that injured, can he? i genuinely don't know how players are not embarrassed when they see all the cameras that will be watching them. iagree, be watching them. i agree, they said it looked like he'd been bitten by a crocodile, so

daft! it was embarrassing, it really was. wimbledon, and the queen of wimbledon, and the queen of wimbledon was back yesterday. it was boiling at wimbledon yesterday, but that didn't slow down serena williams. the seven—time time champion through to the second round courtesy of a straight sets win over aranxta rus of the netherlands. remember, she hasn't played on grass for two years. and what a performance by our very own katie swan. let's look at serena winning yesterday. not easy for her, but she came through in two sets. and let's have a look at katie swan. the wildcard has reached the second round for the first time as she shocked world number 36 irina—camelia begu. the 19—year—old won 6—2, 6—2 in less than an hour. in the men's draw, roger federer did as roger federer does on centre court. the top seed is chasing a ninth title at the all england club and looked as brilliant as usual

in his straight sets win over dusan lajovic. there's a reason they call him king of centre court. and remember, kyle edmund and johanna konta are in action today on the grass too. see you again a little later. coverage of that on bbc two later on, and radio 5 live. we are starting with the story that is gripping the world, the thai boys found alive in the caves. but how do they get out safely? that's the question facing those trying to rescue 12 boys and their football coach found alive in a flooded cave in thailand, nine days after they disappeared. rescue workers have been taking food and medical supplies to them, following their discovery by a team of caving experts, including two british men, who had to find their way how many of you? 13? brilliant. no, not today, not today. there are

two of us. we are coming, it's ok. many people are coming. many people, we are the first. many people are coming. what day? what day is it? monday. monday. 0ne day? what day is it? monday. monday. one week and one day, you have been here... ten days. ten days. you are very strong. very strong! 0k, go back, we're coming. i know, i

know, i understand. we are coming. 0k? know, i understand. we are coming. ok? we will come. we are happy too! thank you so much! where you come from? england, uk. 0h! where you come from? england, uk. oh! wow! you could see the water there is the boys and their coach we re there is the boys and their coach were perched on the shelf, effectively. as we've just heard, the first voice the 12 young thai footballers and their coach heard after nine days trapped in caves was that of british diverjohn volanthen. he was with fellow brit rick stanton. they'd been called in by the thai authorities along with another british caving expert, robert harper. the trio arrived in thailand three days after the football team went missing. they're among more than a thousand

people involved in the operation, from all over the world. a short while ago, i spoke to our correspondent at the scene, howard johnson, about how despite the jubilation at finding the boys and their coach, it is only the beginning of this huge rescue operation. it's a huge task ahead. what we're seeing this morning is the thai navy divers down there, working with the army, working with the huge international team, including these two british divers, who have been absolutely fundamental in using their expertise to find the boys. what they're doing today is giving the boys energy sachets, gels, just to sustain them in the first phase. they're giving them survival boxes. they're down there in this very muddy little shelf, just about a metre above the water level. what they say they'll do next is make that area slightly nicerfor them, because they really want to take their time, make sure that they're 100% ready t go before they move them out. they want to make sure this is 100% safe, any operation they do, and the third thing they're saying they're doing is bringing in around four months‘ worth of food.

they're saying they need that amount of food down there just in case what we see at the moment is rainy season, monsoon rains coming in here, hammering this area, and tomorrow big rains are coming. so if the water level starts going up again, they certainly won't move the boys any time soon. right. and my understanding is that the two british cave divers, john volanthen and richard stanton, were able to reach the team and the coach, because the water levels had begun to drop slowly. but what is the plan to try and get the boys out? yeah, just on that point about the water. we've seen over the last week pumping station down the road from here, around 10,000 litres of water being pumped out an hour. that is around a centimetre the water level was dropping an hour, and we're seeing paddy fields further down this road flooded from the water they're pumping out. they've also been diverting water from going into the cave.

so what we're seeing is the teams making sure they can make this, make the most of this window of opportunity before the rains come. there is concern if the water levels go up again, they'll have to keep going back to the boys, and support them as best they can, in the caves, until the water level drops again to be able to get them to the next chamber beyond where they are at the moment, and that is at least five kilometres into this cave network behind me. but is there a possibility that they might have to dive the boys out? yeah, the idea is that they will give these boys training in scuba gear. let's not forget, they're between 11 and 16—years—old, so imagine if your first scuba diving session is going to be in muddy waters in a dark cavern where you can't see anything. lots of people had trouble this week, experts had trouble navigating through the murky waters because when you are under water in the dark, it's very hard to see where you're going, so a terrifying experience potentially for the boys, but they'll be supported by guide

ropes, by these expert divers, and they have to make each of these different chambers as they move along. four significant posts before they get back to the entrance just to the right of me here. and there's intense activity behind you, we can see. what is going on there, and where are the families in relation to where you are? yeah, what we can see around me is lots of search and rescue helpers laying down gravel. you might be able to see there's mud absolutely everywhere here. imagine if you're trying to run the boys out quickly to the ambulance, you could slip over here, so we're seeing a lot of gravel work going on. i can also see lots of police making sure that the media don't rush any vips who come to this site. this is the demonstration still going on about the face masks, they're appealing for face masks to fit a small face, for a child, so at the moment they have adult size full face masks down here. they are appealing to the thai media to be find 15, more than they need, 15 small, extra small full face masks for the children.

and the families, where are they? the families have spent the week in this tented area just behind me. there's some members there, some others are just in an area up here, where the governor of this province has been giving press conferences, no doubt receiving word from other members of society here in thailand. the thai prime minister came here last week to see the families of the boys. he meditated with them and ate food with them. also, we saw a very prestigious monk come to support the families. so at the moment the families, the media are giving them respectful distance at the moment. obviously it's been a very tumultuous week for them, but we'll attempt to speak to them later on, when things have calmed down a little bit. howard johnson, thank you so much. let's speak to andy eavis, former chair of the british caving association, who knows

john volanthen and rick stanton, and gary mitchell from the british cave rescue council, who sentjohn and rick to thailand. thank you, gentlemen, for talking to us. thank you, gentlemen, for talking to us. i know your colleague has been texting and e—mailing john blanton and richard stanton, what did they have to say about the rescue? well, we had some information from them after they completed the dive yesterday, describing a bit of what they had had to do. they describe they had had to do. they describe the dive as being, the word they used was gnarly, which means they had had to swim upstream, hauling themselves upstream against the current for quite a way. the total diving section is about 1500 metres, and about half of that is actually submerged, and the other half is bits that are above water. so they we re bits that are above water. so they

were diving and then wading a section, then diving another section before they got through to where the boys were. fortunately, the diving conditions improved over the weekend, to make serious diving possible again. the water receding slightly, and with the water current lessening somewhat, and with the visibility in the water in proving. that made things possible. what does a bit gnarly mean, do you think? well, i think it means, yes, an interesting operation from their point of view, not without its problems, i think, point of view, not without its problems, ithink, having point of view, not without its problems, i think, having to come through and get through, overcome various problems on the way in. i think what quite often happens when you get a flooded cave, of course, it moves the silt around and the sand in the cave, and so you can encounter silt banks, mud banks,

partial blockages where before the flood there were passages. so they might have had to do some excavating to be able to get through. andy, how would you describe these british divers? well, these are two of the most experienced, most renowned cave divers in the world. i mean, there is not many people who know caving who would not agree that these are the right guys in the right place, and we are all delighted that they are at there, and if anybody was going to get to these kids, it was these two, john and eric. —— rick. i think that they may well be referring to stalagmites, or stalactites. often, these passages do have quite a lot of stalactites and stalagmites, and they may well have been squeezing through things,

projections hanging from the ceiling and sticking up from the floor, so the gnarly is possibly that sort of thing. hmm. i don't the gnarly is possibly that sort of thing. hmm. idon't know the gnarly is possibly that sort of thing. hmm. i don't know this particular cave, but i would have thought that the overall passage size is reasonably large, and that a major problem they will have had is the flow of water, fighting against it, water flowing to get in. now they have got a line through, that will make it considerably easier, and protect them against the bad visibility in the water. just explain, in really lehmans terms, what that means, a diving line, a rope, that you can hold onto to get to the boys? yes. bill, do you want to the boys? yes. bill, do you want to take that? it is ok. the first thing that cavers do when they enter a passage on a dive is lay out a

guideline. it won't be to haul on, it is just guideline. it won't be to haul on, it isjust one guideline. it won't be to haul on, it is just one that they can follow by curling a finger and thumb around it, because that will guide them back out. with poor visibility, it is easy to become completely disoriented underwater and in poor visibility, and you could end up swimming in completely the wrong direction without even knowing it. so it is a vital safety issue that, as you go in, you put a line in so that you can follow it out. understood. once it is in, others divers can follow it in. andy, i am reading aboutjohn and rick, they we re reading aboutjohn and rick, they were involved with the rescue of a frenchman trapped in a cave in 2010, involved with the rescue of people in mexico in 2004, cave. what skills do these two men have that mean that they are among the best when it comes to cave diving and rescuing people who are trapped? well, they

do cave diving because they like exploring things, so the thing that drives them on is exploration, that is what drives all of us expedition cavers, going where no man has ever been before. and they have been extraordinarily long distances underwater, underground. i mean, they normally use, in the sort of caves they are exploring now, underground scooters, such as the professionalism and the signs of what they are doing that they have back—ups to everything, including the scooters. so they will typically go in ona the scooters. so they will typically go in on a long dive with not only the scooter that they are arriving but a spare scooter that they are towing behind them. everything will be done so that there is redundancy. if something goes wrong, they have got back—up. but that is not appropriate in this place. i slightly disagree with bill, because

i think they will have put a line in that they can haul on, because the current will be the major problem, i think. they will want something to actually poll on, i think, to make it easier to get through against the current. so normally they would use a thin line, but i think they have probably put a pretty hefty line in that they can haul against. cani can i ask you about the challenge of getting the children and the coach out? they could potentially be down there for four out? they could potentially be down there forfour months, out? they could potentially be down there for four months, that is how long the food supplies last. the rainy season is due any day now. these boys and the coach may have to scuba dive out of the cave? yes, so i have heard. the option they are talking about, training them to dive. an alternative to that would be the same way that they are taking supplies into their is bringing them out ina supplies into their is bringing them out in a similar package, if you like. in other words, fitting them

with a diving bottle and an air supply, with a diving bottle and an air supply, a full face mask, perhaps securing them on a stretcher, or just so that they can't move, getting their way —— wait right so that they don't get stuck, and bringing them out like they were parcels. i don't know if that is actually possible. but it is certainly something that would be being thought about. thank you very much. i really appreciate your time. bill white houses the vice—chair of the british cave rescue council, and andy telling us about the skills of john and richard, two of the british

divers that found the boys and their coach alive. now the really hard work begins. still to come, uk officials are warning of a threat to public health, as the number of measles cases skyrocket across the country. we'll speak with two health experts and a sufferer who wasn't vaccinated against the potentially deadly disease. and eloise parry died three years ago after buying diet pills online. last week the man who sold them was convicted of manslaughter and jailed for seven years. we'll talk to her mum about the dangers in the next half hour. time for the latest news, here's joanna gosling. the boys trapped in a cave in thailand have been found alive, but they could remain stranded until october, as heavy rainfall hampers rescue efforts. british cave divers discovered the boys yesterday, nine days after they disappeared. rescuers face a daunting logistical challenge to bring them out

of the cave system safely, and are taking them four months worth of food. an action plan designed to protect lesbian, gay, bisexual and tra nsgender people in the uk from discrimination has been announced by the government. the 4.5 million pound proposals addresses access to healthcare, education in schools, and the proposed ban of a controversial "gay cure". labour says the plans don't go far enough — and shy away from real change. police on the island of bute are attempting to piece together the last movements of a six—year—old girl, whose body was found in woodland yesterday. officers are treating the death of alesha mcphail as unexplained, and are keen to speak to any of the island's residents who joined the search after she was reported missing at around 06:30. one of britain's most wanted fugitives has been arrested in switzerland. mark acklom, who's, 45 disappered in 2012 after defrauding a woman he was in a relationship

with out of around £850,000. he was tracked down to a luxury apartment in zurich, late on saturday night. he's currently in a police station in zurich awaiting extradition hearing proceedings. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. a couple of messages about gay conversion therapy, which we are going to talk about after ten. the government was announcing plans to ban it. we will talk to two women who have undergone the therapy and ascot works. the proposed ban suggests that nobody should attempt to change their lifestyle and self identification. many do and have chosen to seek assistance to change their lifestyle. this test don't matter text, i put myself in the early 80s into a hospital to take electric convulsion therapy, because

i felt that being gay was a curse on my life. hours before the first session i discharge myself because the thought of this frightened me. we will talk about this after ten o'clock with two people that have undergone it and one person who says they carry it out. here's some sport now with tim hague. as we've been hearing, it's the day all england fans have been waiting for. gareth southgate's side have been practicing penalties, as they prepare for the last 16 world cup match with colombia in moscow this evening. you can see them at the stadium yesterday evening. belgium have already won their last 16 game. but only just! they came from 2—0 down to beat japan 3—2 with the last kick of the game. nacer chadli, an amazing match. and it will not get any easierfor the belgians. it's brazil next. they beat mexico 2—0 and are picking up the pace with every match. as is serena williams. her first match on grass for nearly two years ended in a straight sets win.

she's into the second round of wimbledon. and coverage of the first round continues across the bbc today. that's all the sport for now. good morning. there's been a steep rise in cases of measles across england and it is a threat to the british public, according to health officials. according to data from public health england, there were 274 cases in the whole of 2017. comparatively, in the first six months of this year there have been 738 cases. just last year the world health organisation declared that the uk had elminiated measles — but public health england says the infecticous disease it still very much a threat. so how bad is the problem? there have been outbreaks across the country — with london and the south—east seeing the most cases. and more than 100 cases have been reported in the south west. let's talk to vanessa saliba, a consultant epidemiologist from public health england. dr hamed khan, a gp and clinical lecturer, and will soden

from west yorkshire. he didn t have the mmr vaccine when he was young and caught measles 5 years ago, va nessa, vanessa, how alarming is the rise? we are concerned, we want to raise awareness about the steep rise in cases across england. what we are seeing is very much linked to what is happening across the world. there are outbreaks all across europe. people are travelling back and forth and bringing back the virus. most of the cases we are seeing are in young people, young adults, most people think of it as a childhood illness, and are not aware that adults can get it. anybody that has not had two doses remains unprotected and is vulnerable. we want to make sure people know that this is circulating and they need to check if they are up—to—date with their vaccines. you can get it now if you didn't have it

asa can get it now if you didn't have it as a child. why is it bad for adults? can be a very serious illness and can lead to various publications. as an adult you are more likely to end up in hospital and you can get competitions like infections of the lung or brain, some of which can have complications and can cause you to die. there are also problems for young babies, people with immune systems that do not work properly, pregnant women. we wa nt not work properly, pregnant women. we want to help those people and ta ke we want to help those people and take up the vaccine when offered. you didn't have mmr when you were young, you got measles five years ago. what was it like?” young, you got measles five years ago. what was it like? i don't think i have ever felt as ill before or since. it was horrendous. really? it felt like somebody hit you round the back of the head with a sledgehammer. how long did it last? i started to feel ill on friday, i we nt i started to feel ill on friday, i went back to finish a job on saturday morning and i basically fell over on saturday afternoon. i

didn't get up again for ten days, andl didn't get up again for ten days, and i had another two weeks off to recover. i just and i had another two weeks off to recover. ijust explain and i had another two weeks off to recover. i just explain why you didn't have the vaccine?” recover. i just explain why you didn't have the vaccine? i was born in1976, i didn't have the vaccine? i was born in 1976, i asked didn't have the vaccine? i was born in 1976, iasked my didn't have the vaccine? i was born in 1976, i asked my mum, didn't have the vaccine? i was born in 1976, iasked my mum, and she said that due to medical advice of the time, because of the way the vaccines were cultured in the 70s, due to family allergy history, the doctor advised her not to give it to me. ok, what did you think of that? well, she was following the best advice of the time. you know, what can you do? she was doing the best for her child. looking back as an aduu for her child. looking back as an adult he would have wanted it?|j think it would have been advisable to have a vaccination, yes, but it is my responsibility. i should have possibly thought, i have not had it, i should have mmr or a single vaccination. and your own children,

have they been vaccinated? yes. i gave them the single one, i paid for them to have it done. what other signs that people should look out for? initially, the symptoms are actually very similar to other viral infections. so, patients will feel generally unwell, they will a fever, they will have saw, weeping eyes, a cough and a runny nose. similar to simpler infections you get. it is after a few days that the more defining characteristics developed, after a couple of days or so you may find spots in the mouth, behind the teeth and so on. there are small, grey spots that develop one of the defining characteristics of measles. by defining characteristics of measles. by about a day four, patients usually have the classic rash, that

starts behind the ears, the hairline, and it spreads downwards to the upper body. vanessa, you said this rise at the moment, you believe, is to do with young adults that have not been vaccinated as children. as an adult, you can get the vaccination? absolutely, there is no upper age limit. if you are not sure, call your gp and they will check the records. if you don't have a record, they will offer you the vaccine. free on the nhs and quick and easy to do. it would be really good if people think about it, particularly if they are going to travel over the summer. there are a lot of measles about across europe and also thinking about young people, going to summer festivals over the summer. we had measles outbreaks in the past that have been linked to summer festivals. think about checking your vaccine as soon as possible before you go. and then if you are unwell, try not to travel and stay at home, call your gp. that

is an important message. we don't wa nt is an important message. we don't want people to pass on the infection. measles is highly infectious. you pass it on through coughing and sneezing and it is easy to catch. thank you for coming on. thank you for your time. coming up... eloise parry died after taking slimming pills bought online. the man who sold them has been jailed for seven years. in the next few minutes, we'll speak with eloise's mother about the sentence and if she thinks the substance should be banned in the uk. england play colombia at 7:00 tonight in the world cup. the last time england won a knockout game in a major tournament was 2006 — 12 years ago ? something manager gareth southgate has been quick to point out during the build up to the game. and remember england 5 most recent knockout tie — where they were beaten 2—1 by iceland at euro 2016? so what do england need to do to break their poor run —

and win a knock—out game? let's now speak to england international defender lianne sanderson, who was part of the women's world cup squad in 2015 which finished third. you got to the semifinals? yes, we got all of the way to the semifinals, a fantastic tournament, the first time we had got that far. we managed to win the bronze medal. a fantastic occasion. unfortunately we lost to japan in the semifinals. it was a fantastic tournament. we had a great time. it was so fun, some great people. we have a really enjoyable experience. we would have preferred to have won, but getting a bronze medalfor the preferred to have won, but getting a bronze medal for the first time ever was a fantastic achievement. renee hector, centre—back for tottenham ladies. and sally mcginn — how would you describe your role?

how would you describe your role ?|j work in sports psychology. we are going back to the last time that england won a knockout match, against ecuador. lampard is still not happy with the retreating, he wa nts not happy with the retreating, he wants the ball to retreat further. joe cole is mixing with them. beckham! it's gone in! england are in front! relief! beckham! it's gone in! england are infront! relief! david beckham! it's gone in! england are in front! relief! david beckham! 14 minutes into the second half in stuttgart, england take the lead in the knockout stage of the world cup. it was a long time in coming, but a

brilliant free kick. david beckham scores his first england goal in 13 games, and his first with a free kick for over three years. what a moment to produce a beckham special. i had forgotten how utterly delicious that free kick was. you we re delicious that free kick was. you were so young, 11. 11 or 12? but in terms of the pressure, when it comes toa terms of the pressure, when it comes to a knockout game, what would be your advice to the england team?” think they've just got to believe in what they are doing, have confidence in what they do. i think we got a really young squad and i think it would be important for the older players, harry as the captain, to really help the younger players deal with the pressure. obviously i think they have done a fantasticjob in expressing themselves and playing with loads of confidence. i think if they just believe in with loads of confidence. i think if theyjust believe in themselves, believe in what they have been doing so far in the world cup, i think they will do a fantasticjob.

so far in the world cup, i think they will do a fantastic job. what is your view about tonight, in terms of firstly the pressure, the fact they have not won a knockout game since 2006, and the fact that they have just beaten tunisia, they trounced panama, but panama are not amazing. and then the second team didn't play that brilliantly against belgium? i have said previously, but i think it is now or never. it is setup for us to practically get to the final. if we turn up the way we know we can i think we can get win tonight. with the netherlands and italy not being in the tournament, it isa italy not being in the tournament, it is a fantastic moment. spain are out, argentina are out, portugal, spain, germany. istill think out, argentina are out, portugal, spain, germany. i still think we can beat these teams, in my opinion. but it isa beat these teams, in my opinion. but it is a great moment, set up for us to hopefully win tonight and i think we definitely can do that, if we believe and have confidence, and play with the freedom we have been doing. i think the belgian game, i think we set up that we wanted to

come second, i don't personally like that, but i think if we polished off, then gareth southgate looks like a tactical genius. —— if we pull it off. this is the next time england played in a knockout game, 2010, south africa. england against germany. this matter is a whole lot more. milner. defoe — that's a lovely touch. lampard! brilliant. 55-77; fl..- the 355 sure «is decisions some key decisiensrhave—beem some key decisiensrhave—beee i remember at the time some key decisiensrhave—beee happening, |ber at the time some key decisiensrhave—beee happening, her at the time some key decisiensrhave—beee happening, i think the time some key decisiensrhave—beee happening, i think i 1e time some key decisiensrhave—beee happening, i think i was he some key decisiensrhave—beee happening, i think i was about that happening, i think i was about 15, i remember being absolutely distraught. it was an injustice. absolutely. as you know... well, if that goal had been given, it would have been 2—2, in the end, germany won 4—1. let's talk about penalties.

gareth southgate has organised, the tea m gareth southgate has organised, the team had practised, you have got a list. compare that to euro 96, england against germany, it was on the hoof, who wants to take a penalty? some big names turned away. it is more organised but you still need mental strength? yes, we can't change the past. we obviously can't predict the future. but i think gareth southgate has obviously embraced the psychology aspect of players. the team have grown up with him, with his under—21s programme. i think they know it at the very well. they have worked on the team, understanding each other. i think they know the set pieces they want to play, they have put a lot of practice in and, ultimately, it is about delivering tonight and nothing else. he has got his list of penalty ta kers else. he has got his list of penalty takers in order, updated, with how they have done in training and things like that. he has got that

history himself, gareth southgate, because of the penalty that he missed in euro 96. how do you think that affects the way he manages the england team? well, i hope it doesn't come down to that point. i don't know if i could emotionally handle it go into another penalty situation. i don't think you can recreate a moment. you can take as many penalties in training at you wa nt many penalties in training at you want but i don't think you can replicate the real—life situation. i hope we don't get to that point but i hope the players will be raring to go. these are the moments you play for, to play for your country in a world cup knockout phase. it doesn't get much bigger. i hope the players have the freedom, and the country right behind them, keep getting behind the players. it's coming home, everybody says, let's hope thatis home, everybody says, let's hope that is the case. thank you very much, leanne. thank you all for coming on the programme. three years ago, eloise parry died after taking

eight slimming pills that she'd bought online. she was 21 and was suffering from bulimia at the time. her mother spoke to us to time. they explained that these tablets were taken to speed up the metabolism, that they'd basically caused her body to overheat, and fail, you know. she'd experienced kidney failure, her lungs had stopped working and, you know, her heart had stopped, and they had been unable to do anything about it. there's nothing that will get this stuff out of your system once it's in there. once you have taken it, it's a one way trip. at the end of last week, the man who sold the diet pills to eloise parry was jailed for seven years after being convicted of manslaughter. while the substance in the pills, which can be toxic, is not banned in the uk, it is illegal to sell it for human consumption. eloise's mum fiona parry is here now. thank you very much for talking to

us. your reaction, first of all, to this jail sentence of seven years for the man that sold or bought these pills? it is something that i didn't expect to see happen. she bought the pills online. the internet is global. the chances of the seller being in this country were fairly remote. obviously, it is a relief. i think thatis obviously, it is a relief. i think that is the biggest feeling i feel, just relief that she has had some justice. there has been a public acknowledgement that what happened was wrong, that what he did was wrong, and that there had been significant consequences for him. wrong, and that there had been significant consequences for himm fa ct, significant consequences for himm fact, thejudge said significant consequences for himm fact, the judge said the defendant on sentencing, you are said to be a loving man, devoted to your own daughter, i hope you can reflect on what the death of eloise has meant

to her mother, her sister and extended family, which is a powerful sentiment to the man that sold these pills. yes, he clearly didn't take the feelings he had for his own child and extended them towards others. because he was based in the uk, that was how a prosecution was able to be brought. are there others that you hold responsible for your daughter's death? yes. i mean, he doesn't run the internet. there are people who allowed him to operate. there are internet companies out there that allow these websites to set up. when they are closed down, they allow them to open up again. they must know what they are doing. i don't think that is a responsible way to behave. my understanding of how the internet works is decidedly limited. but i think it is the

registrar that allows this to happen. you know, they are big, global corporations. they have a duty to behave responsibly, to behave morally. i think if you know that somebody is selling something deadly, you shut them down and you keep them shut down. you don'tjust turn a blind eye. but the substance thatis turn a blind eye. but the substance that is the toxic substance he —— it is dnp, it has uses as a chemical, a fertiliser, it is used in manufacturing dies. it is not illegal? it is not illegal to sell it, but it is to sell it for human consumption. when you look at what he was doing, there was no way you we re he was doing, there was no way you were buying from his website with any intention other than using it for human consumption. it was

packaged for weight loss, and sold in that way. that is how it was marketed. i know that you find it difficult to talk about your daughter having bulimia, and you feel it is important to speak about it if you can. can you explain that? icame into it if you can. can you explain that? i came into this thinking that i could not mention the bulimia and nobody would have to know. because i do still feel, after all of these yea rs, do still feel, after all of these years, that i'm scared about talking about it. i do feel a stigma. i feel shame that she wasn't perfect. i think i have come to realise that it was that lack of imperfection that made her vulnerable. i am not going to reach out and help other people ifi to reach out and help other people if i don't acknowledge that imperfection and get people talking about how they feel inside. maybe if we had a world where people were more comfortable talking about not feeling ok, about having real mental

health problems, they wouldn't end up health problems, they wouldn't end up doing things as desperate as she did. she was always looking for the next pill to fix problems. the medication i am on isn't working, they need to change my merits. she wa nted they need to change my merits. she wanted to pop a pill to sort it problems. when it came to her perceived problems with her weight, when she found a pill she could pop, she did. and it killed her. maybe if we talk more openly about these things, she might not have got to that point. we will never know. but iam hoping that point. we will never know. but i am hoping that by saying something about it, things will move in the right direction, a slightly positive step. had she realised that bulimia was a mental health problem, she may have talked to someone about it?”

mean, she was looking for health, asking for help. that is the other thing we need to bear in mind. mental health services, particularly for young adults, are desperately underfunded. which does lead people, to some extent, on their own, to deal with it. i firmly to some extent, on their own, to deal with it. ifirmly believe to some extent, on their own, to deal with it. i firmly believe that when it comes to looking after your mental health, the person that does the most is you. the number one step you can take, the biggest step you can take, is to talk. when things start to go wrong, when you know you are not in a good place, tell people, we are always going to need mental health services for when you need more support. but i think you also need to take responsibility on ourselves, that means opening up as the public, as a society, bringing it out into the light and trying to remove some of the stigma and shame, that i am very conscious i still

feel about it. i'm really quite frightened, actually, talking to you about it and wondering how people will react. that does scare me.” about it and wondering how people will react. that does scare me. i am very grateful that you have chosen to express yourself in that manner. we are committed to covering mental health issues on this programme. i know it is really important to our audience. thank you for doing that. hopefully, it will make a difference. thank you very much.” really hope so. we will bring you the latest news and sport in a moment. before that, a good weather forecast for you. the weather right into the first half ofjuly looks very similar to what we saw in june, according to the met office, the driestjune on record for some southern counties of england, and in scotland, particularly around the glasgow area, where we saw skies like this for a lot of the time. motherwell, thursday, the highest temperature ever recorded in scotland, 33.2

celsius. whilst it will not be as hot over the coming days, still reasonably sunny most of the time, warm across many parts, and if you are desperate for some rain, very little in the way of rain in the forecast. at the moment, high pressure firmly in charge, but we do have this weak area of low pressure through the bay of biscay pushing showers towards the south—west of england and a few bits of cloud over the skies at wimbledon today, maybe just tempering the heat somewhat. strong sunshine overhead the rest of the time. and here and across other southern counties of england and wales, and easterly breeze tempering the heat. so breezy across the south, a few showers in the channel islands, the south—west, but mostly dry. the cloud in inland areas of scotla nd dry. the cloud in inland areas of scotland fading away, but around the coasts we will continue to see low cloud at times, still some sunshine, but yellow colour is an indication that temperatures are in the high teens at best. down a notch on what

some of you experienced yesterday. as we go through tonight and into tomorrow morning, a bit more in a way of low cloud developing across central and eastern scotland, northern and eastern parts of scotla nd northern and eastern parts of scotland and england, and a chance of showers in devon and cornwall and the highs of silly. a few midnight here, but elsewhere reasonably fresh morning commute, especially where you have got grey skies overhead. a lot of the cloud will break up, still some left into the afternoon. a bit more cloud across southern counties of england and wales threatening the odd shower now and again, one or two of those not far away from wimbledon during the late afternoon, the vast majority staying dry, temperatures for most in the mid 20s yet again. it does turn fresh across the north as we go through wednesday night into thursday, this cold front working its way in. high pressure in charge otherwise, for most thursday another dry and sunny day for the vast majority, but into the weekend it

looks like temperatures will build once again, highs of 30—32 degrees in east anglia and the south—east. hello, it's tuesday, it's ten o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. rescuers in thailand say the group of boys trapped in a flooded cave will be given diving lessons so they can be brought out safely. months of food supplies are being sent in after they were found by two british divers yesterday afternoon. is this going into a clip or not? the most experienced cave divers in the world, not many people know caving who would not say that they are the right guys in the right place. england take on colombia tonight in moscow hoping to win a place

in the quarterfinals of the world cup, the england team haven't won a knockout game at a major tournament since 2006. so how is captain harry kane feeling? you're nervous, you're excited because it's a chance, a good chance you're going to score. there's obviously a bit of pressure on it, but again, that's why i like to have a routine, so i know kind of every penalty i take, whether it's in training or in the game, that i'm going through the same motions, same steps, same breathing. we'll hear from english and colombian fans in moscow. and gay conversion therapies are to be banned as part of the government's action plan to improve the lives of lgbt people in the uk. we've made some good progress in this country, we're a leader on lgbt rights, but we still have a long way to go. i'll be speaking with two women who've undergone so—called gay conversion therapy shortly and to a man who offers it and considers himself "ex—gay". good morning, it's ten o'clock.

here's joanna gosling is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the day's news. rescuers in thailand are trying to come up with a plan to free 12 boys and their football coach from a cave where they have been trapped for more than ten days. supplies have been taken in to the group after british divers located them yesterday. it's thought they may have to be taught to dive or wait for floodwaters to recede, which could take weeks or even months. andy eavis, former chair of the british caving association, knows the divers who found the boys and says they face challenging conditions. i would have thought the overall passage sizes reasonably large and a major problem they will have had is the flow of water and fighting against the water flow to get in. now they have got diving line through, it will make it considerably easier, protecting them against the bad visibility in the water. an action plan to

tackle discrimination against the lgbt community has been unveiled including a proposed ban on controversial conversion therapy. the plan was drawn up using data from an online survey that received more than 100,000 responses, making it the largest ever national survey of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people anywhere in the world. police on the island of bute are attempting to piece together the last movements of a six—year—old girl whose body was found in woodland yesterday. officers are treating the death of alesha mcphail as unexplained, and are keen to speak to any of the island's residents who joined the search after she was reported missing ataround 6:30am. one of britain's most wanted fugitives has been arrested in switzerland. mark acklom, who's 45, disappered in 2012 after defrauding a woman he was in a relationship with out of around £850,000. he was tracked down to a luxury apartment in zurich late on saturday night. he's currently in a police station awaiting extradition hearing proceedings. a roman catholic archbishop in australia has been

sentenced to 12 months in home detention for covering up child sexual abuse. the archbishop of adelaide, philip wilson, remained silent as a magistrate delivered the decision not to send him to jail. he is the most senior catholic globally to be convicted of the crime. a disintegrating nike trainer worn by michaelj fox in the back to the future sequel has sold for more than £70,000. this left shoe, made for fox in his role as marty mcfly, was worn in the 1989 sequel, which sees marty and doc brown travel to a futuristic 2015, where shoes have power laces. the trainer is so fragile it was only made available to buyers in portland, oregon, as it would not withstand further transportation. the money raised will go to fox's foundation for parkinson's research. that's a summary of the latest bbc news, more at 10:30. thank you very much, and thank you for your messages. those british

rescu e rs for your messages. those british rescuers are true heroes, one can only imagine the relief those trapped belt when the rescue team arrived, good luck to all involved. tricia says, why aren't these guys getting awards instead of sports people? they deserve awards for services to humanity. i think i am right in saying at least one of them has an mba, if i have recalled correctly. on gay conversion therapy, so—called, this text says, i put myself through voluntary conversion because of my fave at the age of 11, and i underwent 30 days of fasting and prayer is back in west africa. now i realise i am who iam and west africa. now i realise i am who i am and nothing can change that, andi i am and nothing can change that, and i married my love in november. congratulations! and this one says, being gay is not a choice or a lifestyle, this view is outdated and hugely damaging, there is no place for such oppressive, shaming practices in 2018. and i have got some more on gay conversion therapy which i will read when we have the

conversation about it, the government is set to ban it, that is coming up in the next hour. some sport now with tim. felling nervous yet? it's all eyes on moscow today as england prepare to face colombia in the last 16 of the world cup. england looking very relaxed as they arrived at the spartak stradium. but we know that knockout football means the potential of penalties, and england have an awful record. let's go back 20 years to france ‘98, saint—etienne. 2—2 after extra time against argentina, david batty the man missing here. fast—forwa rd eight years to the world cup in germany in 2006. england's so—called golden generation knocked out on penalties by portugal. england boss gareth southgate knows all about the pain of penalties himself but says the team are ready if needs be. once we get to that point, we know our sort of ranking of players, what we have seen,

notjust with us but over a number of years in players that have taken more in certain matches than others. so we are prepared. but there is a lot of football before that point. well, the 2018 world cup has surpassed all expectations, and last night no—one predicted japan would lead belgium 2—0 with 20 minutes to go. but with the shock on, the belgians produced something really special. scoring two in quick succession, and then with the last kick of the match, nacer chadli won it. many people think this could finally be belgium's time. but they have the brazilians next in the quarterfinal. brazil continue to pick up pace and were comfortable 2—0 winners against mexico yesterday. neymar got one of the goals. the mexicans have now lost seven last 16 matches in a row. they call it

the "curse of the last 16". and that goal—scorer neymar looked like he'd been cursed yesterday too. an opposing player had stood on his foot, by the way. the academy have been on the line after that performance. best actor! it was boiling at wimbledon yesterday, but that didn't slow down serena williams. the seven—time champion through to the second round courtesy of a straight—sets win over aranxta rus of the netherlands. remember she hasn't played on grass for 2 years. and what a performance by our very own katie swan. the wildcard has reached the second round for the first time as she shocked world number 36 irina—camelia begu. the 19—year—old won 6—2, 6—2 in less than an hour. in the men's draw, roger federer did as roger federer does on centre court. the top seed is chasing a ninth title at the all england club and looked as brilliant as usual in his straight—sets

win over dusan lajovic. remember, kyle edmund and jo konta are in action as the first round continues. all that across the bbc, of course. and spare a thought for northern ireland's graeme mcdowell. he was supposed to be playing in a qualifier for the open championship today, but he's lost his clubs. well, an airline's lost his clubs, to be more precise. some people have suggested he could borrow some clubs, but he says if he did that, then he wouldn't be able to perform to his best. that is really bad luck, isn't it, victoria? that's all the sport for now. our top story today. the boys trapped in a cave in thailand have been found alive, but they could remain trapped until october, as heavy rainfall hampers rescue efforts. british cave divers discovered the boys yesterday, nine days after they disappeared. as you can see from this map, rescuers face a daunting logistical challenge to bring them out of the cave system safely,

and are taking them four months‘ worth of food. this is the first time i have seen this map. right, so pattaya beach is the chamber where the boys and the coach are stuck. and that is about five kilometres from the next chamber, that is what our correspondent was telling us earlier. so there is that t junction, then to get to the third chamber is about five kilometres. i mean, when you see it laid out like that, you know it is a huge labyrinth of tunnels and chambers. we have also got the latest pictures of the two divers. richard stanton and john volanthen, who arrived at the rescue site this morning. you can see richard stanton on the left with glasses on, and john is wearing a blue top with white stripes on the shoulders howard johnson is our

correspondent at the scene. he says finding the boys and their coach is only the beginning of this huge rescue operation. it‘s a huge task ahead. what we‘re seeing this morning is the thai navy divers down there, working with the army, working with the huge international team, including these two british divers, who have been absolutely fundamental in using their expertise to find the boys. what they‘re doing today is giving the boys energy sachets, gels, just to sustain them in the first phase. they‘re giving them survival boxes. they‘re down there in this very muddy little shelf, just about a metre above the water level. what they say they‘ll do next is make that area slightly nicerfor them, because they really want to take their time, make sure that they‘re 100% ready to go before they move them out. they want to make sure this is 100% safe, any operation they do, and the third thing they‘re saying they‘re doing is bringing in around four months‘ worth of food.

they‘re saying they need that amount of food down there just in case what we see at the moment is rainy season, monsoon rains coming in here, hammering this area, and tomorrow big rains are coming. so if the water level starts going up again, they certainly won‘t move the boys any time soon. right. and my understanding is that the two british cave divers, john volanthen and richard stanton, were able to reach the team and the coach because the water levels had begun to drop slowly. but what is the plan to try and get the boys out? yeah, just on that point about the water, we‘ve seen over the last week a pumping station down the road from here, around 10,000 litres of water being pumped out an hour. that is around a centimetre the water level was dropping an hour, and we‘re seeing paddy fields further down this road flooded from the water they‘re pumping out. they‘ve also been diverting water from going into the cave. so what we‘re seeing is the teams making sure they can make this, make the most of

this window of opportunity before the rains come. there is concern if the water levels go up again, they‘ll have to keep going back to the boys, and support them as best they can, in the caves, until the water level drops again to be able to get them to the next chamber beyond where they are at the moment, and that is at least five kilometres into this cave network behind me. but is there a possibility that they might have to dive the boys out? yeah, the idea is that they will give these boys training in scuba gear. let‘s not forget, they‘re between 11 and 16—years—old, so imagine if your first scuba diving session is going to be in muddy waters in a dark cavern where you can‘t see anything. lots of people had trouble this week, experts had trouble navigating through the murky waters because when you are underwater in the dark, it‘s very hard to see where you‘re going, so a terrifying experience potentially for the boys,

but they‘ll be supported by guide ropes, by these expert divers, and they have to make each of these different chambers as they move along. four significant posts before they get back to the entrance just to the right of me here. we can speak to gary mitchell, who is a vice chair of the british cave rescue council, and has had messages from the rescuers, and to professor neil greenberg, a specialist in post traumatic stress disorder at kings college london. tell us about the messages you have had. well, yeah, lots of them have been reported through the media as well, that first video footage that came through yesterday afternoon was quite amazing, really, just to see the faces on the boys, to see them all well and alive was actually... we were starting to fear the worst, and that message really lifted spirits all round. our guys obviously have been really busy for

the last 36 hours or so, continually diving, moving equipment through, trying to take rests when they can, obviously you cannot just continually keep diving, so we understand there is this significant co—ordinated effort attempt by the military and our guys are taking an advisory role in that. how would you describejohn advisory role in that. how would you describe john and rick? they are far braver than i would be! i am not a cave diver, and i don‘t think i would ever want to be. it is quite ha rd to would ever want to be. it is quite hard to comprehend the situation is that these guys put themselves through. as your reporters said there, dark, you can see a foot or two in front of you, if you are lucky, really confined spaces, a long way, and we are under the assumption that it is about two kilometres into where the boys are, and about one kilometre of that is underwater, so a significant task to

reach them in the first place. reverser neil greenberg, potentially the boys and their coach could be underground for four months, they are being given food supplies for four months, tell us how you might cope with being in a confined space in the dark for that length of time. i guess already they have faced the darkness, being in confined spaces to get to where they have been, and they would have gone through a huge amount of adrenaline and excitement that probably fear before the two rescuers turned up in the cavern earlier. so their emotions will have changed dramatically over that period of time. initially, when they saw the cave divers, they would have been understandably hugely relieved, and now what they have got to faces the reality of moving from where they are back to somewhere safe. i think, actually, given the fact that they have all survived so far and that their help is on the way, at this point in time, they are

probably feeling quite buoyant. of course, as the reality sets in, and maybe it takes a few weeks or months to get them trained to get out, they are likely to go through a whole range of emotions, and some of that will be dependent on to medications with their families, which will no doubt get set up. the way their families react will depend very much on how the team and the coach react asa on how the team and the coach react as a group. so that familial support will be really important to those boys. it will be really important to hear that normal life and people who love them there and caring for them. of course, the families themselves will be going through an awful lot, having been intensely worried, and overtime that is likely to lead to frustration if this does go on for months and months. and when they finally do get out, hopefully most of them will be enriched by this and think, if i can cope with that, i can cope with anything, but inevitably some of them might develop mental health difficulties, and if they do, the thai authorities

will have to get them the right treatment. i understand you have helped people who have been trapped, not on this scale, but how do you help them? well, when people get released from any form of captivity, they go through a range of emotions ina they go through a range of emotions in a transitional period, so they often feel elated, then sad, they miss the camaraderie of the people they were with, and having to deal with normal life, or in the case of their children, exams and sporting events, it can be quite challenging. but most people, over a few weeks, settle back into normal patterns, and particularly at the age of the children, it will depend on their families. we also have to think of the coach as well, the range of emotions he might feel, elation, guilt, fearand angerabout emotions he might feel, elation, guilt, fear and anger about what happens to him when he comes out. gary, the british cave rescue council, are you made up of volunteers? we are, everyone on the

teams are all volunteers, we are an umbrella organisation for 14 cave rescue teams across the whole of the uk and ireland. so what is john the london... s day job? uk and ireland. so what is john the london... s dayjob? oh! that is a shame, i was going to ask... are you back with us? you what, sorry? what isjohn‘s day back with us? you what, sorry? what is john‘s day job? back with us? you what, sorry? what is john's day job? i don't know, he is john's day job? i don't know, he isa is john's day job? i don't know, he is a professional diver by trade, we don‘t thankfully have too much personal contact with the divers, except when we really need their help in situations like this.” except when we really need their help in situations like this. i have read somewhere that he was a firefighter in coventry, i do not know if that is still the case, i will find out. thank you for coming on the programme, gary mitchell, vice chair of the british cave rescue council, made up of volunteers, and thank you also to professor neil greenberg, a specialist in post—traumatic stress disorder. coming up, a method

normally used as a last resort has come under fire. new research has found 32 women died after being restrained in mental health units over a five—year period. one charity group says the trauma of being held, sometimes face down, can lead to heart attacks, self—harm and suicide. we will be talking about that in the next half—hour. the government has announced it plans to ban controversial gay conversion therapies. according to organisations that promote them, conversion therapies can enable people to change or reduce their homosexual tendencies through psychotherapeutic and counselling techniques. the ban is part of a lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender action plan published today by the government which brands them abhorrent. it follows a uk—wide survey of more than 100,000 lgbt people and found that 2% of respondents had undergone conversion therapy and a further 5% had been offered it. three years ago, we looked at this issue on this programme. our reporter ben zand gained access to a gay conversion conference.

here‘s a bit of his report. homosexual relationships, according tojesus, are worse than polygamous ones. so it‘s not a question of a slippery slope that things are going to get worse if we accept homosexual unions. in jesus‘s understanding, the worst has already happened, in embracing homosexual unions. what i discovered was that my same sex attraction was, in fact, a symptom, if you will, of what was yet an unresolved identification with my own gender. duh! sexual orientation is none of it innate, nor is it immutable. so the scientific basis for this memorandum, it seems to me, is now shot. applause

from the bbc, would you please leave? in fairness to our speakers. due to being removed repeatedly because of sensitive subjects, i didn‘t really get a chance to see much of the conference, but i was given the opportunity to talk to a selected group of speakers to find out more about their views. so would you say now you have no homosexual tendencies? no, i would never claim that. there‘s some inclinations that remain, and i accept that as part of my humanity, and i‘m ok with that. but you said in the eyes of god it‘s not perfect to be homosexual, so are you, you know, do you feel like you will always be flawed then, if you have homosexual tendencies? am i always flawed? i think this side of heaven we are all flawed, and if that‘s an aspect of my

flawed humanity, i‘m ok with it. i think weakness is different from volitional sinning. why do you think men are gay, or homosexual? i think, among other reasons, that there is a kind of disintegration in his own masculine identity. if there was not, then he wouldn‘t be longing for someone who isjust like him. that was three years ago. the government is about to ban this therapy. we can talk now to vicky beeching, writer and equality campaigner who underwent an exorcism and therapy to try and cure her homosexuality. crispin blunt, conservative mp for reigate. jayne ozanne is in oxford. she was offered conversion therapy. she sits on the church of england general synod.

dr louise theodosiou from the royal college of psychiatrists, she‘s in salford. michael davidson is in belfast, head of the core issues trust, who offer these therapies and describes himself as ex—gay. he was banned five years ago from the british psychodrama association, because he was in breach of their ethical code and that of the uk council for psychotherapy. crispin blunt, why is the government planning to ban this? because it is wrong. simply. sexuality is inherent, and if you then take people on a conversion programme, plainly, they are being sold a pup. you can‘t convert people from something that they are inherently are. michael davison? well, a few years ago, the government argued, in the royal courts ofjustice, that

ex—gay is a protected category under the equality act of 2010, so now the government is discriminating openly against ex—gays, this is a huge problem. how do you respond to that? well, it is obviously total nonsense. tell him why. the idea that the challenges faced by lgbt people, that we are going to suddenly produce this group of ex—gays, when sexuality, all the evidence is that it is inherent, and the wonderful thing about the change in our society over my lifetime has meant that i grew up in a place where i simply had no point of reference that made any sense, that made any sense for me, and i entered a profession where, if i was myself, it was illegal. the problem is we are discriminating... society has

massively changed. the great thing about this survey, 108,000 people, is that whilst we have won a major battle... a convenience sample, not a randomised controlled sample. the equality of marriage and the rest, there are still obviously plenty of areas where lgbt people face discrimination in society, and the idea that people are then going to be faced with conversion therapy... it is shocking. we don't offer conversion therapy. how do you respond to the fact that it is going to be banned? it won‘t be banned because people have the right to choose the direction they want to go in, and mandatory gay will not work. you can‘t force people to be gayjust because they have the feelings. you will continue to offer it, even when it is banned? i will seek legal

advice and we will do the right thing. we will certainly be there and available for people that have had enough of having a gay ideology pushed down their throat. let me put that point to you. it is offering a choice, it is there as a choice of somebody wants to access it, which you have done in the past, which jane has done, and i will ask you about your experiences. why are you stopping people in the future accessing it? an interesting question is, why are people seeking these therapies in the first place? that is actually the key, underpinning question in the debate. for me and many other lgbt people, it is because people like mike is peddling a message that being gay is sinful and shameful, that drove me to voluntarily seek out an exorcism at 16. and it worked for me, it did not work for you. you don't need to change if you are not sinful and shameful in the first place. tell

vicky, you did not want to be gay, so you sort out this kind of therapy and you say it worked? it certainly worked for me, together with my wife. we decided this is the pathway that we wanted to go in. that is not being critical of anybody that does not follow the direction we went in. do you think it is a sin? yes, i think it is, in christian terminology. that is the danger, thatis terminology. that is the danger, that is why... tell me, why is it that is why... tell me, why is it that more than 50% of the clients that more than 50% of the clients that in my direction do not subscribe to christian theology? they come from other points of view or they come from no points of view. probably sociological pressure with a religious background. can i read to you the list of organisations that signed a letter to the government last year calling for what you do to be outlawed, which the government has now listened to according to the plans? the british

association for counselling and psychotherapy, the british association of cognitive therapies, the british psychological society, the british psychological society, the college of sexual and relationship therapists, the association of lg bt relationship therapists, the association of lgbt doctors and dentists, the royal college of gps, the royal council for psychotherapy. they all want it banned, you are a lone voice. i am not. have a look at our dvd, voices of the silenced, there are experts from around the world. but you are not an expert, you are a doctor in education, not a medical doctor. you are right, the european convention on human rights has clearly made the way open for people to choose the direction that they want to go in. the government

will have to do something about that. let me bring in jane in oxford. you were offered conversion therapy. you sit on the church of england general synod, what was your experience? i voluntarily went through this, like vicky, because i believe, as many do, that being gay was sinful. i didn‘t want to live with the shame, and frankly i wanted to be happy, i wanted to be loved andi to be happy, i wanted to be loved and i wanted a family. i would do anything to go through, and i put myself through loads of prayer ministry, i spent lots of money, thatis ministry, i spent lots of money, that is one of the things that doesn‘t come out here, but it didn‘t work. but what is the therapy? you pray, what? it is a catchall phrase, you can pray about past relationships, with parents, significant people, you go through deliverance, i have seen many exorcisms, fasting and prayer. it causes great harm. there are many, many young people... we offer

standard psychotherapy. he does not wa nt standard psychotherapy. he does not want the truth to come out. many people have mental health issues, self harm, suicidal tendencies as a result because they feel so guilty when it doesn‘t work. we know this causes harm. when i did a survey last year to see how many people had been through conversion therapy, over 270 people replied and two thirds of them said it was because they thought it was sinful, and they went on to say how damaging it was to their own mental health. this is an issue where the government has to act because of the harm it is doing to young people. jane, you are using convenient samples, not randomised controlled samples. i have talked to thousands of people. they have been in touch with me since vicky‘s book had come out. hang on, i am going to ask about the impact on your physical and mental health. how would you describe it?” physical and mental health. how would you describe it? i went and sort out the therapy from somebody

like mike, trusting they would be not biased. my fallout was depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, almost a suicide attempt in my 20s, and physical health symptoms, lots of fatigue, i was finally diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, and my skin cells were turning into scar tissue. the doctor said my body was at war, and they blamed that on the internal fight i was having between my face and my sexuality. this is devastating. people's lives are hanging in the balance. let me bring in doctor louise. what is your reaction to the fa ct louise. what is your reaction to the fact this is going to be banned by the government? the royal college are 100% backing the banning of this therapy. we signed up to the memorandum, there is no evidence in place to support this therapy. what are the psychological issues

associated with attempting to cure people of homosexuality? as we have heard, your sexuality and gender identity are inherent. there is no evidence base, no therapeutic treatment to change what is simply a pa rt treatment to change what is simply a part of a person‘s nature. treatment to change what is simply a part of a person's nature. but the royal college of psychiatrists did not sign up to the 2017 version of the memorandum. the church of england did. did the royal college of psychiatrists? the church of england is not an expert. tech advice. hang on, you have asked the question. i would like to say that we 100% backed the ban and there is no evidence base for the treatment. what about the therapy for gender identity? are you backing the banning of that? it is part of the memorandum of understanding. what we do is that we work with the community that experience gender dysphoria and offer evidence —based

treatment. so you are not fully behind the memorandum of understanding of 2017. you want it on one side of the equation, but not on one side of the equation, but not on the other? i have said we said we 100% backed the ban on conversion therapy against sexuality. ok? 100% backed the ban on conversion therapy against sexuality. 0k?” 100% backed the ban on conversion therapy against sexuality. ok? i am going to read some messages. what i understood about myself when i was 18 is that there was something wrong with me. it took me a very long time. and the whole of society to change attitudes. and i now know there was nothing wrong with me. i am absolutely grateful to the government for coming forward and banning a therapy that will turn around to people and say there is something wrong with you. which we don't. let me read some messages on whatsapp. once a conversion therapy isa whatsapp. once a conversion therapy is a joke. greg whatsapp. once a conversion therapy is ajoke. greg in whatsapp. once a conversion therapy is a joke. greg in somerset says that as a gay man in his 405, i am horrified that... sorry, i‘m trying

to read messages from people from around the country. jack in manchester says when i was younger and first came out i held hands with my partner and have things thrown from cars. since that point i have never felt comfortable doing it again. that is the other part of the survey, two out of three gay couples say they would not hold hands in public because they might feel uncomfortable and don‘t know what the reaction would be. would you hold hands with your partner?” the reaction would be. would you hold hands with your partner? i have held hands in public and have somebody say disgusting under their breath. how did you react? he got a barrage of abuse, which hugely impressed my boyfriend, but made clear that it was totally unacceptable. we quite understand why other people in other circumstances would simply desist and go back into hiding, effectively. it is harder than people think. it is shining a light

that it people think. it is shining a light thatitis people think. it is shining a light that it is still difficult to be lgbt, especially in religious settings and also in general society. it is really hard being ex—gay, vicky. society. it is really hard being ex-gay, vicky. we really appreciate your time this morning. vicky beeching, and crispin blunt, who came out... how many years ago? 2010, eight years ago in august. michael davidson, head of the core issues trust, and jane, who was offered conversion therapy and sits on the church of england general synod. thank you all for your time. breaking news from cheshire police. a female health care worker has been arrested on suspicion of the murder of eight babies and the attempted murder of another six. that‘s after an investigation of the neo—natal unit at the countess of chester hospital.

a female healthcare worker has been arrested on suspicion of the murder of eight babies and the attempted murder of another six babies after an investigation of the neo—natal unit at the countess of chester hospital. that is just in from cheshire police. more to come throughout the day. and england is preparing for a nail—biting game against columbia in moscow tonight. we‘ll speak with one of england‘s — and also gareth southgate‘s — biggest fans and the guardian‘s chief sport reporter, martha kelner in russia. it is supposed to be a method of last resort, when mental health patients are seen as a risk to themselves and others. but research has found that 32 women have died after being restrained in mental health units over a five—year period. the charity agenda, which works with vulnerable women, has gathered information for the five years leading up to april 2017 and says the trauma of being held —

sometimes face down — can bring on physical problems like heart attacks, as well as causing some people to become more likely to self—harm and even take their own lives. this week parliament is looking at reducing restraint siutations, with what‘s called a third reading of a bill. let‘s talk now to philippa lalor. she says she 5 been sometimes face—down — in mental health wards. and katharine sacks—jones is from agenda, which is a charity for women and girls at risk thank you for coming on the programme. i won the first of all if you could tell us about your own experience? i was 21 when i first entered the hospital system. i had no idea that anything like restraint happened in this day and age, i thought it went out with padded cells. the speed and

the force with which five people would hold me down for not taking medication, for saying that i felt suicidal, it was shocking. how would they hold you down? one person on one arm, so i could not move anything. the other on the other arm, one on each leg, a guy pushing down on my chest. a pillow under my head, face down, holding my head into the pillow. did it stop you breathing? temporarily, yes. i'm lucky that i went to another unit, which was more therapeutic. it never restrained me. they used talking, instead of restraint. i was able to gain backa instead of restraint. i was able to gain back a little bit of the self—worth that i think i lost. gain back a little bit of the self-worth that i think i lost. you said, because he didn‘t want to take a tablet, for example, that would be a tablet, for example, that would be a reason for holding you down? yes.

so not really a method of last resort. no, a method of first resort. no, a method of first resort. sometimes i would ask, what is the tablet? because i have a background in science, and people just would not say. the doctor prescribed it, you take it. and when isaid,i prescribed it, you take it. and when i said, i need to know what it is, 0k, i said, i need to know what it is, ok, we will inject you. it stopped me from engaging in the mental health services, which then put me at risk, because i felt suicidal, i still felt depressed. i still have mental illness. but i was stuck without the help that i needed. and absolutely no trust towards the mental health professionals because of that kind of treatment? no. and the way you are treated by other people is then the way that you treat yourself. so, when other people treat you in a violent way,

you will then see yourself as deserving of that, and then you are more likely to go on and treat yourself in a violent way, you are more likely to feel that you don‘t deserve to interact with the rest of society, because this is who you are, you are an animal, you are an animal that needs to be pinned down and shut away. is dangerous. you just don‘t see yourself as a member of society. it is hard to come out into the real world and look for work. you described it in absolutely searing terms, and i thank you for that, just so the audience absolutely knows what this involves. how do you react to the figures that you have compiled, that over 30 women have died over this five—year period after being restrained in the manner in which philip has described? we were really shocked, actually, to find that the figure was that i. we know that 32 women

have died, 6000, over 6000 women a year are restrained in the way that a developer described. as well as being humiliating, as well as being frightening, it can be deeply traumatic and dangerous to people‘s lives. what is the link, it can potentially lead to heart attacks and so on, what are the other reasons? exactly as described, it can cause injury, thousands of people are injured by the use of restraint every year. and the psychological impact, as philippa set out, the trauma. for many women in mental health clinics, they have faced abuse, domestic and sexual abuse previously. being held down, often by men, pinning you down, it can be very traumatising. there is a really lasting psychological impact. are there other ways of restraining a patient who might be a danger to themselves or to those around them? philippi was illustrating perfectly,

she was in a hospital where restraint was hardly used. across the nhs, that is the case, some hospitals hardly use restraint, some use it very frequently. there are alternatives, de—escalation techniques, they are having calmer and more therapeutic environments where staff no patients better and they can find ways to avoid situations like around taking medicine, where conflict might arise. are you calling for this to be banned? we think restraint should only ever be used as a very last resort. there is a bill coming before the parliament which would enable that. to pass it is 100 mp5 to come along and vote for it. we really hope that all mp5 listening to this today will make sure that they are in parliament on friday to vote through this important bill. the mental health minister backs the bill to reduce the use of restraint in mental health units and called it an important reform. but you need

people to vote for it. why do some hospitals use it more than others?” think it is probably a cultural thing. for some hospitals it is a first point of call, rather than the last. it will be used to get people to comply with medication, rather than taking the time to talk to a patient and find alternatives. we know that the use of restraint is bad for patients and also bad for staff. there are higher rates of staff. there are higher rates of staff sickness, lower staff well— being staff sickness, lower staff well—being in staff sickness, lower staff well— being in places staff sickness, lower staff well—being in places where restraint is used frequently. so, reducing restraint would be good for patients and also good for hospitals and staff. we have so many messages about gay conversion therapy. one says, glad about the decision to ban the therapy. the church has caused so much pain and damage by offering this. as a gay christian i was recently offered by my christian workplace. when i refused to become straight, i lost myjob. things need to change. robert says it is not new

and it used to happen on the nhs. as and it used to happen on the nhs. as a 15—year—old boy i was placed in what was then called a mental health hospital to undergo therapy as my family tried to cure me from being 93v- family tried to cure me from being gay. i saw the light of day after meeting a another patient who told meeting a another patient who told me that there was no cure, and if i should decide to stay gay i should not stay in the hospital, and i ran away. i am now 60 and it is one of the best decisions i made. richard says it is a tragedy that the guy on your programme feel that way about being gay, and it upsets me that people put that much emotional and psychological misery on top of him by convincing him he is a sinner. thank you for those, keep them coming in. gareth southgate is calling for his young squad to be as brave as they can be as some of them prepare for the biggest game of their career. england play columbia tonight at 7pm in the world cup — and the manager has been working hard to improve england‘s reputation and their performances. he‘s being praised for revitalising the team — but he knows this will only last if they can win in moscow and reach the last eight.

england and columbia fans are dreaming ofa england and columbia fans are dreaming of a victory. our reporter is in moscow and found two fans with mixed loyalties. two teams, one game, and one big dilemma. who to support? ian and jeff are both british colombians. i‘m british—born, colombian raised. i‘m a cockney colombian from the kings road. i feel lucky to have a lot of traits from both of my cultures. so, i know what it is to eat fish and chips, i know what it is to understand cockney rhyming slang, i understand east london. i understand what. .. you know, i love being a londoner. but i'm also very proud to have the culture, the colombian culture that i have in me. from when i was a kid, to be able to dance salsa, speak spanish. how is russia ? amazing. all of the thoughts, or things you hear about russia and stuff. it is completely the opposite. the russian people, their willingness to help

and actually make this an experience for all of us, has been... has overstepped the language barrier. so what would you say to england fans back home who haven‘t come out because there were concerns? i think you‘ve got to respect everyone‘s decision, at the end of the day. what affects you doesn‘t affect me, and what affects me, doesn‘t affect you. at the end of the day. we all have things that we don‘t want to risk, you know? but the people that have taken it upon themselves to come out and actually experience an amazing world cup, you know, they‘ve reaped the benefits. and for the people that haven‘t come out, you know, it‘s a great loss. it‘s a great loss. we‘ve definitely felt the lack of support in the stadiums, you know? but on the streets, it‘s just been an amazing, amazing experience. talk to me about the dilemma you guys have as british colombians. i was raised very colombian at home. i wasn't allowed to speak english at home, because obviously my mum wanted me to grow up with spanish.

it's only given me an advantage in my life. so i'm really proud of that. i travel a lot to colombia, all the time. my wife is colombian. so, you know, there's a lot of pull. i know there's a little british bulldog inside me, too. you know? i got brought up speaking spanish at home. my mum said to me, your school is in english, yourfriends are in english, tv is in english, everything is in english. at home, were going to speak spanish. for me, i feel very proud of my mum did me so well. found it in me to have my heritage, to have my roots very clear to me, where i come from. they both support tottenha m football clu b. tottenham striker harry kane, against our top defender, davinson sanchez. how torn are you with this match? if someone would have said to us at the beginning of the world cup, that we would be in a position that we are in between

colombia and england, just after the group stages, i would have called you a liar. it is hard to choose between the two. it's hard, being torn between the two, my two cultures, my two loves. how are the england and colombian fans comparing in terms of how well, as we walk down the streets, you can see, the colombian fans are dancing with people, they are loud, blowing horns and stuff. unfortunately, we haven't seen too many england shirts around. england fans? there we go! how has your time in russia been? proper interview, so, where are you from? newcastle. newcastle ? how long have you been in moscow? two days. two days? how long do you expect to be in moscow for? all of it. all the way? all the way to the top. how has it been? absolutely marvellous. and the perceptions in russia about the english as well. it's went both ways.

the media have just made a mental, right? there's no hassle at all with anybody. iagree. to be fair, this has been one of the best world cups ever. it's been absolutely fantastic. the pitches, the players, the people. # it's coming, football's coming home! # it's coming home... we‘ve just spoken to some england fans, how was it? it was passionate. it was passion, it was nice to find them, when they started singing and shouting, everyone was turning round and looking at them. it felt good. it felt good to be amongst england fans. there weren‘t enough this year. walking through the red square, we then bump into some colombian fans, and so they then throw on their own colombian shirts. you don‘t get this sort of dancing with the english fans. you get salsa, colombia. columbia! having brought both england and columbia shirts, whoever wins,

they will have the right shirt to win the next day. let‘s talk to 17—year—old anjali pillai. she‘s a big england and gareth southgate fan and chief sport reporter for the guardian martha kelner? who‘s live in moscow. what is it about southgate that you love so much? i think it is the freshness he has brought to the england team and the creativity. especially against iceland in the euros we were lacking that creativity. encouraging the team to play from the back and being more incisive in possession, and i think being a young manager who played in the world cup, and he has lost in the world cup, and he has lost in the world cup, he can empathise so much with the players. the big difference for me is that i am an avid chelsea fan and in the past it was very avid chelsea fan and in the past it was very much supporting the chelsea players. not the england team.

lampard, terry, cole. but he has brought an identity to the england tea m brought an identity to the england team that so many people can relate to. now it is country over club, and thatis to. now it is country over club, and that is demonstrated by the fact i never thought i would be cheering on the likes of harry kane and jesse lingard, but i am! martha, in terms of the way that‘s gareth southgate is managing the team, the fan expectations, the media expectations, the media expectations, it is really different from previous managers like sven—goran eriksson and fabio capello? i think he has managed to dissolve the divisions between the different clubs, people like rio ferdinand and frank lampard spoke before the world cup about the cliques that existed under roy hodgson, fabio capello, sven—goran, and he has managed to make this team really together. you can see that in

a way that they play on the pitch. you hear about darts competitions, riding inflatable unicorns, a lot of people can see this as nonsense, trivial, but i think it has helped create some unity in the squad. do you think that some england fans, i will ask you both this, perhaps forgetting how dangerous the colombian team could be? no, obviously it is important to remember the opposition. but you also go into every game just playing our game. also go into every game just playing ourgame. i also go into every game just playing our game. i think it is important that what southgate has done is that we are actually driving and we want it. going into the game, it is all about belief. three games until the final, get through this, play sweden or switzerland, i think that is what the england fans are looking at. i think there was a lot of speculation regarding southgate‘s choice, the

second 11 against belgium.” regarding southgate‘s choice, the second 11 against belgium. i want to ask martha about that briefly, it is almost a different team, but do you think the way that they lost to belgium, the manner in which they lost, will have an effect tonight?” don't think so. i think it is brand—new, almost a brand—new starting 11 and i think they will benefit from the fresh legs. i think this is the first real test for this team. you know, we came through panama exceptionally well, and tunisia, but they are not great sides. colombia are a step up and i think this is the big test. thank you, enjoy the game. let‘s go back to that news that a female healthcare worker is under arrest on suspicion of the murder of eight babies and the attempted murder of another six babies after an investigation of the neo—natal unit at the countess of chester hospital. detective inspector paul hughes from cheshire police is in charge of the investigation which has been ongoing since 2017.

in a statement he said, "since the start of our enquiries, the scope of the investigation has now widened. we are now currently investigating the deaths of 17 babies and 15 non—fatal collapses between the period of march 2015 and july 2016. as a result of our ongoing enquiries we have today arrested a healthcare professional in connection with the investigation. she was arrested earlier this morning on suspicion of murder in relation to eight of the babies and attempted murder in relation to six of the babies and is currently in custody. parents of all the babies are continuing to be kept fully updated and are being supported throughout the process there is more on bbc newsroom live. thank you for your company. we are back tomorrow. good morning. ithink

good morning. i think you good morning. ithink you know good morning. i think you know the weather story by now. another dry, sunny and hot day for the vast majority. the exceptions across north east shetland, some more cloud and we are seeing more clout drifting down the coast and across pa rt drifting down the coast and across part of eastern england. at the same time, some cloud coming to the channel islands, towards south—west england, which could bring the odd shower. some of you need the rain at the moment, but most will not see it because it will be another hot afternoon with temperatures widely in the middle high 205. always a bit cooler in some of the eastern coasts. for those at wimbledon today, another day strong sunshine. punctuated by some cloud now and again. tomorrow, a different story. uk wide, a bit more cloud to start the day. a fresh start. cloud will linger longer across scotland and northern england. more cloud in england and wales, a greater chance of showers. temperatures down a little bit on today‘s values. set to rise as we go to the weekend.

this is bbc news. these are the top stories developing at 11. a female health worker is arrested on suspicion of murdering eight babies — and attempting to kill six others at the countess of chester hospital the 12 boys and their coach trapped in a cave in thailand are warned they could face months undergound before being rescued. rescuers will send them food supplies and teach

the boys to dive — as they try to work out the best way of bringing them out safely a concern that if the water levels go up again they will have to just keep going back to the boys and support them as best they can in the caves until the water level drops again.