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food and medical supplies have been sent into the cave complex in thailand where 12 boys and their football coach have been trapped for ten days. a doctor and nurse are among a group of divers who've reached the group. the monsoon rains imminent, the group may have two remain in the cave for months. the thai military says it won't risk the boys‘ safety with a hasty evacuation. poland's chiefjustice has said she'll defy a new law coming into force, requiring judges to retire at 65, not 70. malgorzata gersdorf said she'd turn up for work on wednesday as usual, she's called the changes "unconstitutional" and "a purge of thejudiciary". england are through to the world cup quarter—finals for the first time since 2006. they beat colombia 4—3 on penalties. on saturday, they'll face sweden, who defeated switzerland 1—0. it is just after half—past two in the morning. you up—to—date with the
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headlines. now on bbc news, it's time for tuesday in parliament. hello there and welcome to tuesday in parliament. on this programme — there's fury in the commons over the continuing delays and cancellations on some train services after a timetable shake—up in may. frankly, trains were more reliable 100 years ago in the age of steam. the government's told to stop squabbling and tell business how it's going to handle brexit. isn't it time to show a bit of grit and for him to make it clear that no responsible chancellor could remain in a cabinet so recklessly putting our economy at risk through no deal? we'll be looking to deliver a brexit that maximises employment and prosperity in this country. and, just how much do you know about what your children get up to online? the government's own figures showed
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that 1.4 million children from this country visited a pornographic website. but first, mps queued up to condemn the service on govia thameslink trains and demand the firm be stripped of its franchise. trains running on services from north of london, through the capital to the south coast have been subject to major disruption since the failed introduction of a new timetable in may. a revised timetable is due to be introduced onjuly 15th. there was also fury from mps in northern england, following rumours that the electrification of the trans—pennine route may not now happen. answering an urgent question, the minister began by setting out what action the government was taking on govia. we have started a formal review of the franchise to establish whether gtr have met their contractual obligations in the planning and delivery of the main timetable. —— may.
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we will not hesitate to take tough action against them if they are found to have been negligent. the shadow transport secretary began with those rumours about electrification. reports over the weekend said that a decision had been taken to cancel the village vocation of the trans—pennine route between manchester and leeds. if true, much—needed investment will be slashed in terms of transport spending. it will kill any notion of a northern powerhouse. turning to govia thameslink. we also hear that gtr is being stripped of its franchise unless performance on its services in southeast england rapidly improves and that the process could start and a matter of weeks. if so, one with the decision be made? the secretary of state says he does not run the railway. what i can tell him is we've noticed. but if not him, then who does?
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jojohnson repeated that when it came to gtr, no options were off the table. but mps on all sides didn't hold back in making clear their unhappiness with the operator. there was absolute chaos again on gtr yesterday for my constituents. the situation is not getting better. how long will this have to go on? we are now into week seven of this timetable shambles and there is no sign of the service getting better. never mind electrification. frankly, trains were more reliable 100 years ago in the age of steam. the minister has been far too measured in his response. he should stop pussyfooting about and put the boot in, sack southern and gtr, boost compensation to the passengers and handle the responsibilities for transport services in london. the secretary of state has been clear that he is leaving all options on the table should gtr be found to have been negligent. he is clear that the operator of last resort will be ready to step
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in should that turn out to be the case. but the department wants to follow all correct processes in this matter. endless cancellations. toilets either not working or where you get locked in or at least you end up with a seat. this is a complete and utter chaos. and the government, my constituents, would really love to hear the government gripping and making sure it is sorted now and not in some distant future. people in enfield who aspire to get on the train are running up and down the platform in the morning, and the trains are full by the time they reach us because of the delays and cancellations. and yesterday, almost half of all trains were either delayed or cancelled. and on the 15th ofjuly, we get our third timetable in two months. this cannot be acceptable. the minister is too relaxed for my liking about this matter, and does he realise
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that people in enfield and further afield have completely lost faith in the government's ability to manage the railways and the government do manage to realise? minister. mr speaker, we are urgently working on improving gtr's performance. they have a new chief executive coming in as we speak. his task is clear from the instructions he has received. and that's to get performance back to where it should be as rapidly as possible. coming off the back of the turmoil we have seen a northern rail and elsewhere, is the electrification of the manchester the leeds line just another real serious blow for people in the north, who now feel overwhelmingly, time and time again, they are getting a second—class service from this government? this government is signalling its political commitment to the north of england by spending £13 billion on transport in the north in the years to 2020. and on allocating {2.9 billion to the trans—pennine
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route upgrade alone. and as i referencse, that represents a third of the rail enhancement budget for that five year period. jojohnson. the chancellor, philip hammond, says he will spell out the cost of a no deal brexit when senior ministers gather at the prime minister's country retreat of chequers on friday. senior ministers are due to discuss a new plan for customs arrangements once the uk leaves the eu at the end of march next year. the meeting will take place against a backdrop of conservative in—fighting. and labour's shadow chancellor, john mcdonnell, called on ministers to stop squabbling. today the british chamber of commerce has said its patience is at breaking point with the government over brexit. the chamber's sense of frustrations reflects what trade unions
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and businesses feel. all the chamber wants is some answers to some very basic questions. so can the chancellor front bench or treasury bench offer some answers today? will they be subject to new regulations? will customs checks be conducted in the uk? will companies first be able to transfer staff between the uk and eu as they do now? but above all else, will the government answer the question from the chamber, will ministers stop squabbling and provide some answers to these vital questions? mr speaker, it's fascinating to see the honourable gentleman posing as the champion of business when he's been attacking and undermining business ever since he got into his current position. but yes, i recognise all of the questions that he asks. on friday, the cabinet will meet to set out our way forward in our negotiation with the european union. we recognise that this is now urgent and that we need to make progress. he talked about minimising frictions, maximising flexibility for employers in order to protect jobs and investment, we agree with him on all of those things. we agree with the british chamber
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of commerce on all of those things. we'll be looking to deliver a brexit that maximises employment and prosperity in this country. the chancellor doesn't have to worry about others undermining capitalism, they're doing a pretty good job themselves. laughter when the warring factions in the cabinet meet this weekend, it is the role of treasury ministers to bring them into the real world and point out firmly to them the real cost of a no—deal brexit onjobs, the economy, and all our living standards. so can the chancellor tell us today the treasury's latest estimate of the cost of no deal, the consequences for our economy and potential loss of jobs? surely, isn't it time to show a bit of grit and for him to make it clear that no responsible chancellor could remain in a cabinet so recklessly putting our economy at risk through no deal? i can assure the right honourable
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gentleman that i will be setting out for my colleagues in the privacy of our cabinet meeting on friday, the treasury's, indeed the cross—whitehall economic group's assessment of the implications of different potential routes forward. we can't give a running commentary in public on a matter where we are in intense negotiation with our european interlocutors. what i have said before, i can say again today. when the time comes for parliament to vote on our proposed package, i will make sure that all the available material is put into the public domain so that members of parliament are properly informed. philip hammond. an action plan to improve the lives of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people has been launched by the government.
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the strategy‘s been produced in response to a survey of more than 100,000 members of the lgbt community. it includes plans to introduce a national lgbt health adviser, to tackle discrimination, improve the response to hate crime, and promote diversity in education institutions. the equalities minister told the commons the survey was a significant milestone. while there were many positives to take from the findings, they also show that there is much more to do before we achieve equality for lgbt people in the uk. and for me, one of the saddest statistics was that two thirds of respondents felt unable to hold their partner's hand in public. the government's action plan is a welcome first step. although i would like to have seen more action, the action that it does contain is welcome, it's built on the foundations of labour party's manifesto, so i'm very
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grateful for that. i'm more than happy for the government to appropriate labour's policies and ideas, because the more we can work cross party, the better legislation will be. the country has come a very long way and i'm proud of the fact that it was our government that brought forward the legislation on same—sex marriage. there's still a very long way to go and i think one of the most shocking statistics... she referred to one, but another was that 70% of people responding still thought that they could not be open about their sexuality or the relationship because they were worried about a negative reaction. i know how that feels, i have been part of that 70% in the past. so can i simply welcome her action plan and say i think it matters because people can only really be at their best when they can be themselves? we are proud that scotland is one of the most inclusive countries in terms of lgbt+ in the world.
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but would she talk a bit about the plans to work with scotland and the other devolved nations because equality is important for all countries in the uk? clearly, some of the services that we are talking about, health care, are devolved. and rightly so. the secretary of state for scotland was there at the launch with me and i think that one of the strengths of having a four—nation healthcare system is that we learn from each other. a labour mp said there was a backlash against trans people. if lgbt+ people are still frightened of holding hands in public because of the likely reaction, then we still have a lot of work to do. back in the 1980s, when many of us were not in politics, we look at the homophobia that gay men, for example, faced at that time. and i'm sure we would all think that if we were in politics at the time, we would have called that out, we would have stood up for those individuals. well, that same scenario
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is happening now to the trans community and we must show absolute, unwavering solidarity for those individuals. civil partnerships were introduced to accommodate those couples who were discriminated against by being unable to marry. so she should add to her list of actions the abolition of that institution of discrimination, shouldn't she? there are many reasons why people value civil partnerships. what i can reassure the honourable gentleman, because i know he's very exercised about this, is that they will not be compulsory. penny mordaunt. you're watching tuesday in parliament, with me, alicia mccarthy. still to come: it's a parliamentary heckle, but not as we know it. phone audio.
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erm... what a very rum business that is! you can't parent a child without understanding the digital world. that was the message from a hearing on the risks faced by children when they're using the internet. child welfare organisations told mps that some children were being "groomed" via live streaming services. and they called for a "more robust" system of age verification. social media sites often say that they are appropriate for 13—year—olds and above, but how easy is it for under—135 to gain access? far too easy. it's something that we have seen many children come through barnardo's for, so particularly if you look at something like our harmful sexual behaviour services. so that is where children are then perpetrating sexual abuse on the other children, which is a growing and increasing concern for us. we are seeing children younger and younger come through the doors. so below the ages of criminal responsibility, so even kind of as young as 5—6, 8—10. increase coming through our doors for that. and they are telling us that they are on social media sites. we need much more robust age
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verification on all sites that would help children to not even get on these sites in the first place, without parents being in control. the british board of film classification said social media sites did not meet its four principles of effective age verification. it's technologically fairly straightforward for those social media sites that contain pornography for example, to have restrictions on the pornography itself without encompassing the whole of the service. for huge numbers of children, it would be a really significant protection. the government's figures when they launched this said that 1.4 million children in this country visited a pornographic website. if nspcc, around half of the children, that is the understanding across that. there are risks to live streaming services, which enable users to broadcast material online. lifestream is used by adults to strea m
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when they are sexually abusing children online. how widespread is it? what sort of platforms are used? periscope is one that has been named. what are others? we published a report that is looking at use of live streaming in over half the children, particularly those in the ages of 10-15 were regularly using live streaming apps. she said that over half the children surveyed by barnardo's regretted using live streaming. experiencing negative comments, trolling, adults that were potentially kind of grooming them. so they are not getting the right education around the risks and the dangers of live streaming, and that is something we need to strengthen in this country. the mechanisms on those sites are not robust enough in helping children to understand the risks and the dangers. for example, you could livestream only to parent—approved contacts, so people within their network that they would be able to livestream. we also know that lifestream can be fun for children, if done in the right way and they are educated, but it is a real concern to us.
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but if you take sites like musically and live.ly — we cannot give prevelance figures because they are global sites and we know that children are using them. i have seen it myselff for bbc and channel 4 news reports idid a few years ago. you would have — it is almost like predatory adults live grooming children. you'll would see children innocently in their bedrooms talking about their day, very innocuous content and then you'll start to see almost like a pack mentality of adults coming on saying "can you lift up your top", so text messaging and then you see this child responding in real time saying "what do you mean can i lift up my top?" and a whole other series of messages going back to that child, asking them to do things on camera. mps also heard about the risks of webcams — where a video camera feeds images into the computer network. we looked at the young people in their bedrooms — on their own and actually being filmed
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and clearly being cohersed — but actually that film being taken and harvested onto these websites. and sadly we're seeing children, in one case we as young as five. often these are children in bedrooms which are nice bedrooms and parents are oblivious to what is happening there. you cannot parent a child these days without understanding the digital world. it is an area that parents need support, and that's why i've said previously in this session that we are seeking some kind of campaign led by government in the same way we have a five—day campaign for healthy eating and healthy living... why do we not have a government—backed campaign about screen use, age that children can go online and really the place for parents to understand the rules? the defence secretary has told mps that the battle against the so called islamic state group is not quite over and it remains the most significant terrorist threat to britain. gavin williamson said the fight to counter is — which mps call daesh —
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was entering a "new phase" as the terrorists dispersed. thanks to the courage of our forces and our partners on the ground, daesh's final territorial defeat is now at hand. but the battle against the poison of daesh is not quite over. instead, we are entering a new phase. as the terrorists change their approach, disperse and prepare for potential insurgency. in iraq, daesh cells in iraq in mosul to baghdad, from where they will attempt to grow once more. sowing the seeds of instability and undermining the government to deliver security. we on these benches welcome the extraordinary progress that has been made in the campaign against daesh. this evil organisation and its poisonous ideology must be defeated wherever it emerges. we pay tribute to our uk servicemen and women whose courage and
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commitment is hastening the demise of daesh. and to our allies and partners on the ground, who have sustained such heavy losses while liberating their peoples from the scourge of this terrorist group. does the secretary of state accept that our principal allies on the ground in syria have been kurdish led? does he share my concern that, having helped suppress and eliminate daesh in syria, these kurdish led forces may now find themselves under attack by turkey, a country with an ambivalent record both towards islamist extremism on the one hand and russia on the other? what will we do if we find our kurdish allies being attacked by our so—called nato ally? well, what we have been... the syrian defence force has been a force we have worked
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with incredibly closely over a period of time, as have other coalition allies. what we're doing is working very closely with the united states and france, in order to get a dialogue between both syrian defence forces and turkey to ensure there is no form of conflict, that my right honourable friend raises in his question. gavin williamson. the current hot spell has already led some companies to ask customers to be careful with their water use. in the lords, the pay and bonuses given to the bosses of england's water companies were strongly criticised by opposition peers. the minister insisted that customer bills had come down. average water and sewage bills fell in real terms from £a20,000 in 2009-10 to £395,000 in 2017-18. bills will continue to fall off what he expects a further average reduction of 5% from 2020 two 2025. he will know that water bills have
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risen by 40% above inflation since privatisation and that nearly 2 million people will need help to pay their water bills by 2020. yet, despite poor levels of customer service, water companies bosses are paying themselves huge salaries and bonuses, with ceo pay averaging {1.2 million — and some paid twice that. at the same time, the water companies are hiding behind complex financial structures and offshore havens to avoid paying taxes. the secretary of state has been critical of the water companies. but can i ask — what is he actually doing on the ground to make sure that profits are focused on better preparation for weather extremes and notjust paying excessive bonuses to the few? hear, hear! my lords, the noble baroness is extremely time with her question. 0nly today 0fwat published the summary of the changes to the upcoming price review process ,
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which were discussed with my right honourable friend the secretary of state who agrees with the actions. it will require companies to share the benefits of high levels of debt finance with customers, ensure performance related executive pay, rewards genuinely stretching performance which benefit customers, and be transparent about dividends and explain how they relate to cost and service delivery to customers. and if necessary we will go futher. lord gardiner. at the end of treasury questions, a labour mp wanted to celebrate a change in the rules which will mean increased transparency in offshore tax havens. earlier in the year, ministers agreed to force british 0verseas territories — such the cayman islands, the british virgin islands and bermuda — to publish details of the owners of companies based there. campaigners say the public registers will make it easier to uncover corruption, money laundering and tax dodging. the change is due to come in in
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2020, but labour's helen goodman wanted to start celebrating now. ending the tax signatory in the overseas territories will bring in £10 billion a year — so will the chancellor organise a lunch for the right honourable members for sutton coldfield and the entire labour whip‘s office who were instrumental in securing this change? hear, hear! mr speaker, when i have got the money in the bank i will invite them around for a glass of champagne. i think that's a pretty generous offer from the treasury. well, we recorded in hansard. it's in the official report tomorrow. something hansard might find a little harder to transcribe is the moment during gavin williamson's statement to mps when he was interrupted by his own mobile phone. and surrounding area. by
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by the something on the web about syria. syria is supported... erm... what a very rum business that is! ido i do apologise for that. it's very rare that you are heckled by your owi'i rare that you are heckled by your own mobile phone. 0n rare that you are heckled by your own mobile phone. on this occasion, it isa own mobile phone. on this occasion, it is a new parliamentary convention, without a doubt. so, if i may proceed, mr speaker, without the help and support of siri... gavin williamson, with a little help from his voice activated virtual assistant, siri. and that's it from me for now, but do join me at the same time tomorrow for another round—up of the best of the day at westminster, including the highlights from prime minister's questions. but for now from me, alicia mccarthy, goodbye. hello there.
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we might see a little more in the way of cloud for today. not to start with. we start off with them decent spells of sunshine. some cloud drifting towards scotland through the day, and at the same time this circulation through the channel isles, south—west england bringing isolated showers, which will push their way across the south of england as well. top temperature is 21- 24, but the england as well. top temperature is 21— 24, but the showers will be very hit and miss. you really will be unlucky if you catch one. the showers fade away through the evening but through the northwest we start to see the arrival of a weak weather front. it won't bring any significant rain but it will bring some cloud, thick enough for the odd spot or two in northern ireland and north—west scotland. but behind it, fresh air thaksin, so you will notice the difference in the feel of
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the weather. 15— 18. further south, dry, settled and sunny, and again, very warm indeed. take care. a warm welcome to bbc news — broadcasting to viewers in north america and around the globe. my name is mike embley. our top stories: fresh footage of the boys trapped in a flooded cave system in thailand. they're seen joking, smiling and in good health, but rescue could be weeks or months away. this is still a huge operation, with large numbers of people coming in to help an operation which has achieved a remarkable success, but still doesn't have an answer as to how they're going to get those boys out of the caves. poland's chief justice is refusing to step down, as a row over forced retirement hits the country's judiciary. and i'm 0lly foster in moscow at the world cup, where the quarterfinal line—up is now complete, england taking their place in the last eight with a penalty shootout win against colombia.
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