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one tory are much more disturbing. one tory mps said brexiteer ministers have put their careers before their country. calling them traitors. the word traitors is being used on both sides. words like betrayal coming in. it has been used so often and by both sides, it has been normalised. the reality is that this is political debate and political debate over a referendum that was a 52-48% debate over a referendum that was a 52—a8% result which would have been a hung parliament. creeping fascism accompanying it. let us look at the sunday telegraph, fears trump may pull troops out of europe. president trump is unhappy that european countries are not committing to increased spending on defence and his threat is that he could pull us troops out of the ukraine and refused to take part injoint nato
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exercises. at a time when there is a great deal of facility between russia and other european states. he has been talking about this for awhile, complaining that european countries are not paying their way and of course he is telling us what and of course he is telling us what a nice person vladimir is. and we need a trade deal with america. but is it for the papers. tony and rosamond will be back at half past 11. now it is time for meet the author. a guilt ridden, angry boy on the loose on the western australian outback and his quest for manhood, love, perhaps even some kind of spiritual peace. an unlikely friendship with a hermit like man who was once a priest and who is damaged as well. and tim winton, one of australia's great novelists told this brutal, unforgiving, raw story with great passion and without a trace of sentimentality. the shephard's hut is told in the voice of the boy, jesse clacton and it crackles
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with the rough in a sense of his language. an innocence that by the end of the story has turned into something quite different. welcome. the two principal characters in this story, who carry it all, are difficult people. they are both to some extent guilt ridden and damaged. why do you expect a reader to become so involved in them and to follow them on thisjourney? it is a good question. i am not sure i have the answer. my experience of writing the book was finding those characters and following them in almost the same way as the reader does, in discovering what they are about. with a sense of compulsion, really?
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yeah. so they... i had one character and followed him until he bumps into another character. and it is... it is just happenstance in the first instance and then, you know, rewriting later on, because just to make these opposites match, one is a 15—year—old, borderline sociopath, a boy and the other is an older, man and they are both lost in their way. so of all the gin joints in all the world, you know. eventually, but it is the nature of it. a place that seems empty, if you spend long enough in it and you are looking, you will come across things. a classic kind of hook on which to hang a tale. that moment, where everything changes and it takes a certain form, just by the chance meeting of these two characters? yeah. this boy...
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hiking through the wilderness, really, with nothing but a high—powered rifle, some ammunition, a backpack... and words. and a bottle of water. and just for him to meet another person... it goes from a sort of survival story and you are inside the mind and the lexicon of this profane, angry, damaged boy, entirely until these two people meet and they hit sparks off one another and suddenly there is a different kind of language striking sparks off of the boy. and vice versa. there is a transformation of sorts which we will talk about later. but, how did you get inside the head of this angry, damaged, profane boy? because his voice has an authentic feel to it. it never flags, it is there from the beginning of the book to the end. how did you do that? it is tricky.
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well, i did not get into his head, he got into mine. it was... it was an inconvenient flash of inspiration, i suppose. i was writing another book entirely, but this scene where his father is killed just arrived in my head unbidden. and actually unwelcome because i was... it was distracting. it had nothing to do with what i was right in the middle of at that day. but it was so vivid and i wanted to see where it went, literally. i tried to go back to my novel for a couple of weeks and realise that i had been derailed by this intervention and followed the hate of that voice to see where it was going. and to keep it real, it felt real to me. i knew it was a confection because i am a novelist. but it is kind of almost a sort of secondary form of experience, when it is working really well, it is as if it is real. once this journey begins, the death of the father,
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the flight because of what he fears might happen unjustly to him, it is a journey that you have to stick with. you have got to know how it ends. yeah, you feel... i felt, as the author, like i had my coat caught in a pram rack on the back of the bus and just dragged along behind the bus. running sideways to keep up and, i hope that is the experience for the reader. the language helps because it is, he is a rough dime and he is an adolescent. he is not fully formed. so it is pouring out of him in a... in a rough—hewn way. yeah, it is a sort of hot torrent and it is profane and spiky and... 200 pages of bad language and poor syntax. and i got paid for that. but i think it is... it is something about the passion in his voice, the anger and the hurt and the longing that you go with that somehow, because at first
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blush, he is a piece of work. you would not give him a lift in your car. you would not have him in your home. and i would not recommend having him in your head for two years as i did. you stay with them long enough, it is a little bit like standing in that landscape long enough until you get some familiarity, when you look and you see that you're looking at more than you notice, and with him, he have time enough to merge as someone we are interested in, and we're hoping for the best for. that is interesting, we hope for the best for him. that is an intriguing observation. we will not say how the book ends except that there are unexpected events at the end. what we know is that he is hunting for something, it is notjust escape. he is hunting for what he would call love of some kind. with his cousin, and he thinks this will be a relationship that
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would take him somewhere. that is a positive side from the beginning, it is a quest. he is learning for decency, as he called it. peace and decency. he feels that no one has ever been decent to him except for this girl that he is walking 300 km to. she is the only person in the world who cares about him. because of the damaged man he meets is a priest or an ex—priest, there is inevitably a kind of spiritual context, not an overtly religious theme, they are not searching for god in any sort of obvious way. but there is that angle to it, that is quite a profound strand in the book, isn't it? yeah. because the, this guy, denton mcgillis, the spoiled priest, he has what the boy does not have and that is language and education. he comes from the great world. and he has a kind of conference with ideas and even if he has use them superficially most of his life, and then in bad faith,
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but he does provide a kind of role model as a way of being a man to the boy that he has not had before. a quick piece of growing up. and alsojust, he has never discussed any ideas with anyone before. the yearning questing nature of the boy changes the man and some of the knowledge and experience changes the boy because there they are in the middle of nowhere in a great expanse of salt lakes, the greatest sky you are ever going to see in your life. you have perspective. you know, you just become dandruff on the side of the great beast of the earth. you have written before in books and novels about the power of the landscape, the power of the solitude you can find there, the nature of that place. it is clear that western australia just haunts you every hour of your life.
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even if you are a youth as i was when i first went out camping and hunting in that landscape, eventually just by the nature of the differential in size and scale of it and you, you are forced... you are forced outside your comfort zone mentally and as well as physically. i want to ask you finally is this, it is the question i think anybody would begin to ask themselves as they go on this journey, and it is this, how much has he changed and in what way by the end of the book? yeah, that is the sort of central question, really. he is a different boy to the kid that we first know in the beginnings of the book and he has been through, you know, violent and profound and often comical experiences. i think he is a different person
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at the end of the book, whether he is different enough as a boy, so that he is, you know, our daughters and sisters and friends won't fear him, remains to be seen. he wants to be decent. he wants peace. tim winton, author of the shephard's hut. thank you very much. good evening. it has been a case of deja vu with the weather forecast. and today was another warm, dry and sunny day across much of the country. here was the scene in greater london. over the next few days that theme continues. it will be largely dry with high pressure in charge. there will be strong sunshine on the cards as well. perhaps a little more cloud tomorrow. here is a cloud we had today.
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the most part it has just been fair weather cloud bubbling up. a little more cloud across northern ireland and the west of scotland as well. that will hang around this evening and overnight. the many southern and eastern parts it is clear and dry. the odd misty patch forming into the early hours of sunday and another warm night particularly in the south with temperatures around 15 or 16. a little cooler further north and it will be a humid start to sunday. high pressure driving our weather at the moment. a week weather front, a cold front pushing into scotland, that could introduce some rain, thicker cloud to the north—west of scotland at times, and ahead of that one or two rogue showers for southern scotland into the north of england as well. elsewhere another dry day and in the sunshine it will warm again. the hottest weather will be the parts of england and wales. not quite as hot further north across parts of scotland.
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stornoway at around 16 degrees. 23 to 25 elsewhere across northern ireland and scotland. 30 or 31 across southern england. and sunday is the british grand prix at silverstone. conditions are little like this, some sunshine breaking through the cloud. it should stay dry and it will be hot for the grand prix. 29 degrees or so is the top temperature at silverstone on sunday. looking into monday, high pressure still with us, we have a cold front fading away into tuesday, but pushing south across some eastern parts, introducing cooler weather. into tuesday a slight dip in temperature but still remaining warm and sunny and then it will be hotting up once again as we look towards the end of the week and next weekend. this is bbc world news. our top stories — england are entered their world cup
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