tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News July 12, 2018 9:00am-11:00am BST
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hello, it's 9 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. england heartbreak. it's all over after a 2—1 defeat by croatia in the world cup semifinal in russia. but what a tournament! music: don't look back in anger. i think ithinka i think a lot of us thought we would go out maybe quarters but i am proud of the team. the way they played foot ball of the team. the way they played football is unbelievable. unfortunately, the croatians beat us. unfortunately, the croatians beat us. such is life. he is right. we'll have reaction from england fans in russia and here. president trump arrives in the uk today. protesters are planning three days of demonstrations. what we see on trump is somebody with an overinflated ego and when things don't go his way, he throws his toys out of his pram.
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is she right? we'll be talking to former advisers to tony blair, david cameron and theresa may — about what we can expect from the visit. it led to the resignation of two cabinet ministers — this morning we'll get details of the deal agreed at chequers last week, on the uk's relationship with the european union, after brexit. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. 0k — how are you feeling if you were supporting england last night? and what sort of a welcome should england fans give the team when they come home? what would be right? maybe it's polite applause as they arrive at heathrow.
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do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning — use the hashtag victoria live and if you tect, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today. donald trump arrives in britain today — his first visit as president of the united states. tonight, theresa may will host a dinnerfor him and his wife melania, with 100 guests and ministers. on friday, mr trump will meet the queen. thousands of people are expected to take part in protests against his visit — as gary o'donoghue reports. a ring of steel goes around the american ambassador‘s residence, in regent's park, where the president will spend his first and only night in london. tens of millions of pounds are being spent on security, as donald trump prepares to meet the prime minister and have tea with the queen in what is being called a working — rather than a state — visit. but many will mark their opposition, with protests planned in cardiff, glasgow and edinburgh, meaning the president is likely to travel mostly by helicopter. in london, a giant inflatable blimp in the shape of a baby will hover over westminster.
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so, we have made a baby because we feel that donald trump acts like a baby. his style and tone of leading the nation is very immature, very childish. he is very much a kind of ‘kick ‘em when they are down‘ kind of guy. that also came into play when we were trying to find another way to protest his being in the uk. despite some early, albeit awkward warmth to the relationship, theresa may has found herself at odds with the president on a whole range of issues, from trade to immigration. and she could do with him avoiding repeating his view that the uk is in turmoil over brexit. when it is a necessary visit, the united states, whether you like trump or dislike him, is our single most important ally and partner and we need to have a good working relationship with the us because our security and our prosperity depends in large
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parts on that relationship being in reasonable working order. for more than 70 years, british governments have seen the special relationship with the us as the guiding light forforeign policy. add to that the imperative of a post—brexit trade deal and you realise just how much theresa may needs this visit to be a success. to brussels — where our correspondent gavin lee is. what is the mood there? the beast, the armoured limousine carrying donald trump has arrived. he started tweaking and continuing on the theme of yesterday when he said this, ruffling the feathers of other
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leaders by accusing germany of being captive to russia. he said spending billions on energy, a gas pipeline, when the foundation of nato is to protect itself from the perceived threat from russia. he re—tweeted that and said, pay more money. what is interesting, what he takes with him to the uk, is an energy of a personal agenda which for nato, with american officials, they had set out what they wanted to achieve and to a large exte nt what they wanted to achieve and to a large extent donald trump had agreed a communique on a vision for the future but this morning he tweeted, saying countries who agreed to spend 296 saying countries who agreed to spend 2% of gdp on defence who are not there now, including germany, what they should do, more than that pay 496 they should do, more than that pay 4% of gdp, that is what it needs to be. that is not on the agenda but he is pushing for that today. theresa may has been talking to donald trump
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before they come back here. may has been talking to donald trump before they come back harem may has been talking to donald trump before they come back here. it is fascinating. one of the most interesting things about the huge summits is the body play. you need a body language expert. just watching with donald trump and the others as they go for the family photo. one minute president trump isjoking with president erdogan of turkey. you had angela merkel, at the back, away from each other and they had a momentary photo opportunity when we we re momentary photo opportunity when we were told there was a tremendous relationship between the americans and germans. and theresa may, because the usa and uk are together alphabetically, they spent a lot of time at the dinner last night and theresa may gave them a sense of how welcome he will be, this working visit, when he will get to go to dinner at the ancestral home of winston churchill, blenheim palace, have tea with the queen, and talk to
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theresa may about islamic state, brexit, a new deal together and russia. apparently she has told him to be tough for vladimir putin when he meets him in helsinki. cheers, gavin. we will talk more about the visit later. but now the news. england's world cup journey is over after they lost 2—1 to croatia in last night's semifinal. the three lions‘ bid to reach a first world cup final since 1966 came to an agonising end in extra time, as natalie pirks reports. they came with hope in their hearts and a nation willing them on. it was coming home, after all. fans barely had time to get the beers in before they were catapulted into dreamland. and kieran trippier has scored for england! kieran trippier rewarded with the goal his performances have deserved. and he became only the third englishman to score in a world cup semifinal. another goal would do nicely, thank you. but harry kane's golden touch seemed
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to have deserted him at the crucial moment. another chance came and went. jesse lingard wasteful before half—time. would england be made to regret this? in short — yes. croatia were growing in stature and ivan perisic made them pay, as he twisted athletically past kyle walker. no one said it would be easy. extra time loomed. croatia are well used to this. it was their third consecutive match to go the distance, yet it was england who were fading. what a save by pickford! but mandzukic wasn't done. he pounced and struck the killer blow. there's mandzukic! is that the goal that has finished off england's world cup? slumped in despair, the realisation dawned that they may never get a better chance. southgate's boys' summer was over. it's going to hurt. it will hurt for a little while because we were so close to reaching a world cup final.
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but, yeah, obviously nothing we can do. we just have to hold our heads up high. no glory then, but sleeping giants have been awakened. there is hope yet for fans. we by no means expected to make the semifinals. i think a lot of us thought we'd go out maybe in the quarters, but i'm really proud of the team, they way they performed. the way they played the football was unbelievable. i have never seen england ever play football like that before in my life. so that's it. england's world cup is over, but when the pain dies down, the pride will remain. we'll always have russia. natalie pirks, bbc news, moscow. proposals for the uk's future relationship with the eu are set to be unveiled today by the new brexit secretary dominic raab. a white paper, based on what was discussed at last week's cabinet meeting at chequers, will be published in the commons later. the plans, which must now be finalised with the european council by october, sparked several
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high—level cabinet resignations. buses and cars have been set alight and petrol bombs and missiles thrown in northern ireland as violence broke out during the so—called eleventh night celebrations. the annual loyalist event, which traditionally involves the lighting of bonfires, takes place the day before the anniversary of protestant king william's victory at the battle of the boyne in 1690. it follows rising tensions caused by restrictions on the size of a number of bonfires. new footage has been released of 12 boys and their football coach, following their dramatic rescue from a flooded cave in thailand. the boys can be seen in hospital gowns and facemasks, but are said to be in good health. the new pictures also show how the risky mission was carried out. one of the british divers who helped out in the rescue, john volanthen has just arrived back in the uk and has been
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speaking to journalists. it worked out, the results speak for themselves. with the result of an international team of military and civilian divers working alongside the thai navy, everybody pull together and the results speak for themselves. we are happy the boys are out and say. sir christopher meyer — who you saw in our report on donald trump earlier — is in hospital after being attacked at london's victoria station. the former british ambassador to the united states suffered injuries to his eye, nose and lip when he was confronted by a gang of youths yesterday afternoon. ryanair is cancelling 30 flights between ireland and the uk today because of a strike by pilots. talks between management and trade unions to stop the 24—hour walk—out failed yesterday. the irish airlines pilots' association is accusing the company of not taking their concerns over pay and working conditions seriously. the reality tv star kyliejenner is set
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to become the youngest self—made us billionaire. forbes says the 20—year—old, who is the youngest of the kardashian sisters, is worth $900 million after launching a successful cosmetics firm two years ago. in comparison her sister, kim kardashian west, is worth less than half of that amount at $350 million. john schnatter, the founder of the fast—food pizza chain papa john's, has resigned as the company's chairman after using an racist word during a conference call. mr schnatter had already stood down as the company's ceo last year after criticising nfl players for kneeling during the us national anthem. papa john's, which has over 200 takeaways in the uk, said it condemned racism and any insensitive language. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30. back to victoria. we are going to
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bring you a longer interview with the british cave diver volunteer who helped to rescue the thai football tea m helped to rescue the thai football team and their coach from the flooded cave. thank you for your messages. jason simpson said = we didn twin anything we wouldn t parade olympic bronze medalists, losing an ashes series 3—2 or a runner—up at wimbledon, so why would we have anything other than a pat on the back for the squad? this team will win something so they can wait for glory and parade. carrie eddins says still shocked but they gave it everything, so proud more than anything. something that honours theirjourney and their heart + commitment. hartley witney says... bobby...
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matt said a round of applause would be sufficient. some of those feel harsh but that is fine, that is what you think. let's get some sport — sarah is at the bbc sport centre — would you say they have domination of england proud? there is no doubt. there is not a finalfor england, there is no doubt. there is not a final for england, losing there is no doubt. there is not a finalfor england, losing in extra time to croatia but you can see the sense of love for the team and support they have felt. it is all over social media despite the earlier comments. a lot of disappointment of course. we understand that but mostly a sense of pride for what they have achieved. how they have been in russia is different and how far they
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got despite the low expectations coming into the tournament. but it did come undone last night because despite getting a fantastic start, five minutes in, kieran trippier, scoring his first international goal to put i—0 scoring his first international goal to puti—0 up. scoring his first international goal to put 1—0 up. they dominated the first half and had plenty of chances to make it two but harry kane could not manage to squeeze that in. in the second half, croatia controlled the second half, croatia controlled the play. ivan perisic equalising to send it to extra and then mario mandzukic scoring the winner. the furthest england have gotten a tournament since 1990 and the manager said they could hold their heads high. i am incredibly proud to have led them. we will reflect on chances we might have taken, the
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goals we conceded. but the distance we have come in a short period of time and the effort they have given, i think the reaction of the supporters at the end shows what they think of the team and that is a big change in a two—year period. this was the reaction gareth southgate spoke about, after the match, it has come over in the world cup runs the spirit in the side and re—connection with the england fans, such contrast to previous campaigns. it isa such contrast to previous campaigns. it is a young squad with a great future and they will have the supporters behind them going into coming toilets. has this team changed english football? i think it has changed perceptions, that is. it feels more like the start of something, this wrong, despite it being the end of the tournament. it feels like the beginning rather than the end, when you consider previous tournaments.
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with gareth southgate you have a great leader, the young squad, plenty of talent coming through. we have seen it at under age levels. more creative players to come through. definitely hope, some players were on twitter trying to sum up things. harry kane promising the fans they will be back. jesse lingard saying... and heartbreak for marcus rashford, but he will have chances to get things right. everybody wanted to praise the team. prince william telling them... one of the men behind the songs... lewis hamilton knows what it is to
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bea lewis hamilton knows what it is to be a champion and he said... even robbie williams getting in on it... but i know nobody wants to know about it but england will face belgium on saturday in the match for third place. we will be talking about donald trump. he arrives today. and we will bring you an interview with one of the first i've is to get to the trapped boys in the cave and speak to them and one of those who helped to rescue them. and also with us, england supporters, writers, pundits. we will talk to fans who stayed in the stadium last night to serenade and applaud gareth southgate and the team but let's look back at how england got to last night. 2-0.
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pleased about tonight. panama! that's a header forjohn stones that's gone in. how emphatic was that? jesse lingard. billed as a match neither side desperately wanted to win, it almost seemed belgium where beating themselves up for taking the lead. we are a team that are improving. which half of the draw, who knows what is right or wrong. let's hope there are no dark clouds on the horizon.
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and england have a penalty. yes. ice cool harry kane. the big man has done it for colombia. heartbreakfor the men in red. was it really happening again? extra time came and went. the inevitable loomed. taken calmly by eric dier. eric dier does it. the nation able to rejoice at long last. # looking back on where we first met # i cannot escape and i cannot forget music: it's coming home.
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squad and the whole group of staff, because it is so united and their level of work has been great, their commitment to each other. you don't get through with just 11 players. i hope everybody at home enjoys the rest of the night because it's not very often, as we know, that it's happened. here in moscow, the moment england's fans had waited 28 years for. that how long it had been since that team last had the chance to reach football's greatest stage. trippier will have the run and shot. kieran trippier has scored for england. dele alli weights the pass.
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the ghost of ‘66 lives on for england. they have given it such a good go. there is real hope for the future. we have england supporters, writers and pundits and fans to talk to. alison bender, a sports journalist in moscow, and england fan tim vyner. in the studio, we have carl anka a journalist and england fan, dr david fletcher a performance psychologist, england and leicester city fans big ann and sandra fixter, carrie dunn, a football writer, hydall codeen a writer who's looked at the cultural impact of england world cup campaign so far and nigel rothband
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who hosts a football podcast. how you feeling? gutted an sad. very proud of these bows. conflicting emotions. do not know how to feel. i am pleased we performed well. that is the big thing. i think it has given us a sense of national pride with the boys being a young team with the young manager with the whole country behind them and it takes a lot to get people off the streets and into pubs and clubs. people are saying in supporting the same thing, come on, england, we are out but england have done well. very sad but positive we are building on something new. this was a good chance to go further.
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disappointed by it, but a good platform for moving forward. disappointed, but not in a kind of we should have done better way, in a kind of we have done well and i am proud of what they achieve. kind of we have done well and i am proud of what they achievelj kind of we have done well and i am proud of what they achieve. i think we did fantastically well. the word gutted has been used a couple of times. a bit hollowed out by the big ice cream scoop of football. i am sure there is hope looming in the near distance but for now, trying to process it. i am disappointed, guess because if you had said we would get toa because if you had said we would get to a semifinal, 45 minutes away from the world cup final with this young team, inexperienced, inexperienced manager, there was no expectation. it has been a superb performance. david peter were in the stadium. how are you feeling? the voice has gone completely, but it was worth it. fantastic to be there yesterday.
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disappointed to be knocked out but proud of the way the team performed. we have great hope for the future will hopefully will lead to expectation. what about you, tim? heartbroken after last night. it has been an amazing tournament. the whole month. the first half was a world football whole month. the first half was a world foot ball party whole month. the first half was a world football party and the second half all about england and it was building up to something really special. it has been really special but last night was heartbreaking. alison, what about you? my stomach is still in knots. sad, proud, but i am pleased we did not go out on controversy, no red card, missed a penalty, we were beaten by the better side and we had a great run. i feel better side and we had a great run. ifeel proud. better side and we had a great run. i feel proud. dave and peter, better side and we had a great run. ifeel proud. dave and peter, did you stay in the stadium, did you serenade the team? describe that. it was magic. it was a long wait, we
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waited for an hour for gareth southgate to come out. the players, they got a great response. gareth came out himself. it was not the same as the colombia game. and the sweden game. obviously he had to disappointment but i think he showed pride and respect for the fans. it was more difficult for him than against sweden and colombia. was more difficult for him than against sweden and colombialj was more difficult for him than against sweden and colombia. ijust had to get away and find a quiet bar. i could not stay watching the croatians celebrate. the interesting point is we stayed and celebrated the pride in ourteam point is we stayed and celebrated the pride in our team and so did the croatians. the croatians, every one of them was at the stadium long after we left. we were in there
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15-20 after we left. we were in there 15—20 minutes after every single one had left the stadium so god knows what it would have been like if we had gone on and won the game.|j what it would have been like if we had gone on and won the game. i am going to ask everyone here if this england team have changed the way you feel about england ? definitely. after the premier league season finished i was in hospital and there was the friendly with italy and i think it was the first england game i had watched difficult seven months. i had to be bedridden to watching them play football, such was my level of interest in them. from may to june, was my level of interest in them. from may tojune, you look at was my level of interest in them. from may to june, you look at the impact come you look at what gareth southgate has done, what the youth coaches have done in terms of this england dna project the fa have gone for, and i started to believe. they seem like a very likeable group. it
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is not just marketing. seem like a very likeable group. it is notjust marketing. then believing in themselves, they don't need me to believe in them. believing in themselves, they don't need me to believe in themlj haven't been a massive england fan. the premier league, the club side i support, manchester city, is my world. i can't get excited about the other players who whee in and week out i am hating suddenly putting on a different shirt and i am supporting them. but the way they have performed and come together as a team, the way gareth southgate has performed as a manager with so little experience, it has made me, as the tournament has progressed, become more of an england fan. as the tournament has progressed, become more of an england fanlj think it is a tournament that has shown in sharp relief how bad things we re shown in sharp relief how bad things were before. but england supporters did know that at the time. when you have got wayne rooney criticising fa ns have got wayne rooney criticising fans for brewing them... we knew how bad the disconnect was. since gareth southgate missed that penalty in
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1996, the england squad has become this very strange punch and judy show, which is a receptacle for a lot of public emotions that usually wouldn't be funnelled towards something that should be so communally euphoric, the sporting team that is supposed to represent her country. this tournament has turned that on its head a bit. the players have wiped the board clean about. they might well go on to fail in the same way as previous international sides, but at least the country seems to be willing to give them a chance. they are still a tea m give them a chance. they are still a team of millionaires, like the old teams of millionaires, so what is different? i think they are different? i think they are different kind of millionaire. they seem much more accessible. there are pictures of harry maguire at the euros two years ago as a fan and i can't imagine any of the so—called golden generation having done that. they seem to be a bit more like us. i know this is a carefully managed
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pr campaign, i am aware of that, but to have that on offer, to see these social media posts, to see how much they care in the way that golden generation of big names and big stars didn't, yes, they were knocked out at the semifinal like previous teams, but it does feel different because you are really behind them and you feel very proud. in previous years, one of the things you have been very conscious of, the teams have had three or four players in well pa st have had three or four players in well past their sell by date, but people don't take out. gareth southgate, 0k, he knew them as younger ones, but he has brought them on, and they are together. as you know i am a leicester city support and that is what teamwork does. it is good. ithink support and that is what teamwork does. it is good. i think he has given the young players enough heads to be able to make personalities of their own. harry maguire, leicester
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fan, we are bound to be biased towards him, and he has come on leaps and bounds. you would never have thought the player that came up from the championship into the premier league would have that kind of front—page hero worship that he has had since he scored the other week. does it help that none of them thus far, although that will change now, our stars like david beckham and frank lampard and steven gerrard? you mentioned gareth southgate as well but another key factor is there is a team behind the team. what i am referring to there, people like dan ashworth at the fa, director of elite performance. he has been in the post for six to eight years and he deserves a lot of credit for the mission he has put forward. paper grange has been brought in as team psychologist. they have all had a contribution to the ethics of supporting the england team. how do you feel about this fly? conflicted. mostly scared.
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these five weeks watching the england team, it is the first time i can see england team, it is the first time i can see somebody holding an england flag and i don't want to walk on the other direction. it has various connotations to certain organisations that would not like someone who looks like me and would not want me to be in this country. to see the england flag draped around somebody like raheem sterling who was born in the shadow of wembley stadium and has that tattoo on him, and talking very proudly wearing the shirt, it makes me feel wanted or accepted. that is massive! i think that is massive. i don't know if i am overreacting. that is my national flag. and i am proud to be english. but you are white. that doesn't make any different. he is telling us that it does. it is slightly terrifying. it has been
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terrifying. is that now in the past? no. it will always be there. you can look outside what is happening in football to the rest of the landscape. what is it about this tea m landscape. what is it about this team that has meant you have not walked in the opposite direction when you see somebody carrying the flag of st george? because normally they have their arms up ready for a hug. the great thing about football is you are 90 minutes away from making a new friend. you can watch england against sweden, and there was a lovely retired married couple talking to me about how their daughter was my age and she was doing similar things, graduating daughter was my age and she was doing similarthings, graduating in something similar at university, and we had a lovely conversation and we went our separate ways. you don't get that normally in other experiences of the world cup. that is one time when i was proud to be english. good. that looks fun. peter, dave, alison, you are still out there. do you think this feeling
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will endure as if so for how long?” certainly hope so. sorry? don't apologise, alison. you crack on.” certainly hope so. it reminds me of the 2012 olympics, the massive feel—good factor around london. i just have a feeling that gareth southgate has been talking about identity for a long time and giving this team and identity. all the teamwork, the psychology, the set piece specialist, steve, and everybody involved, everybody has given this team something to be proud of. i would like to think this continues and i think it will because there are so many fans who couldn't bear watching england because it was boring. but now you get the feeling that every time england have the ball, they are going to at least try to do something with it. it is important that there isn't a generational gap within the sport. they are all young, all fighting together and they have been on this journey together and i have been honoured
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with them and i feel incredibly proud and i hope it continues. —— i have been on the journey with them. i think that night was very different to the previous games, just following on from that conversation about the flags. russia is such a big country, and getting around it is logistically quite tricky. i have not seen many other england fans other than on match days. you just don't see them around, which is very unusual. in previous tournaments there would always be part of the city or town hosting that would be taken over by england and the flags. yesterday was the first time for that to come out and it took the semifinal to do that. there was a really big atmosphere about last night's game but maybe less so in previous games. quick final word from you? this feeling of being united, in england at least, can attend your —— can it endure? we have been divided in
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recent yea rs endure? we have been divided in recent years and this has brought us together. the teamwork. being together. the teamwork. being together. that has been fantastic. long may it continue. i am certainly pleased that the rest of the country has engaged with england. i following went home and away irrespective. we don't follow the successful england side, we follow england and we will continue to do so. england and we will continue to do so. we would have done so if we had had a poor tournament but it is absolutely fantastic that the rest of the country has engaged in it as well. and see what we have been following for a number of years. and the euros. that is right across the country, just two years ago and wembley has got seven games and the finals. thank you so much to everybody. you are all going to stay with us and you have given up your whole morning to be on the programme
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and we really appreciate that. there is so much more to talk about more specifically about the game and what you loved most about this tournament, and whether you have fallen in love with var and if it has change your perspective on russia as well. later on we will ask if you care about that play—off game on saturday and what would be an appropriate welcome for this england tea m appropriate welcome for this england team when they do come back. but now the latest news with carole. president trump has arrived at the second day of the nato summit in brussels ahead of his first visit to britain as us president. tonight, theresa may will host a dinnerfor him and his wife melania, with 100 guests and ministers. on friday, mr trump will meet the queen. thousands of people are expected to take part in protests against his visit. proposals for the uk's future relationship with the eu are set to be unveiled today by the new brexit secretary dominic raab. a white paper, based on what was discussed at last weeks cabinet meeting at chequers,
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will be published in the commons later. the plans, which must now be finalised with the european council by october, sparked several high—level cabinet resignations. buses and cars have been set alight and petrol bombs and missiles thrown in northern ireland as violence broke out during the so called eleventh night celebrations. the annual loyalist event, which traditionally involves the lighting of bonfires, takes place the day before the anniversary of protestant king william's victory at the battle of the boyne in 1690. it follows rising tensions caused by restrictions on the size of a number of bonfires. new footage has been released of 12 boys and their football coach, following their dramatic rescue from a flooded cave in thailand. the boys can be seen in hospital gowns and face masks but are said to be in good health. the new pictures also show how the risky mission was carried out. one of the british divers who helped out in the rescue,
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john volanthen, has just arrived back in the uk and has been speaking to journalists. sir christopher meyer, who you saw in our report on donald trump earlier, is in hospital after being attacked at london's victoria station. the former british ambassador to the united states suffered injuries to his eye, nose and lip when he was confronted by a gang of youths yesterday afternoon. ryanair is cancelling 30 flights between ireland and the uk today because of a strike by pilots. talks between management and trade unions to stop the 24—hour walkout failed yesterday. the irish airline pilots' association is accusing the company of not taking their concerns over pay and working conditions seriously. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. thank you. here's the sport with
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sarah. the dream is over. england's world cup run is done, headed by croatia at the semifinal stage. it went to extra time. it finished 2—1 so heartbreaking gareth southgate and his men, but there has been a real reconnection between this england team and their fans. such a positive reaction from those in russia and here at home. and hope for the future of this young squad. so croatia are through to their first world cup final. these are the scenes in zagreb. some achievement for a country with a population of just over 4 million people. it is croatia against france in the final on sunday. and the end of an impressive run at wimbledon for defending champion roger feder. knocked out in the quarterfinals after an epic five set match against kevin anderson. much more on these stories later. thank you. donald trump is just hours away from touching down in britain after stirring up the traditionally calm nato summit in belgium
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by urging members to seriously up what they spend on defence. nato is a military alliance which includes the usa, germany, france and britain among others, and it pledges to treat an attack on one member in the north atlantic as an attack on them all. president trump opened the summit by declaring germany is under putin's "total control" saying the country s imports of natural gas from russia pose a security concern for nato. many onlookers say america's relationship with europe is waning after the us has repeatedly pulled out of multilateral agreements like the paris climate accords and the iran nuclear deal, leaving many to ask if their nato commitment will suffer a similar fate. jeremy hunt was appointed british foreign secretary on monday evening following boris johnson's resignation. just two days into the role, he spoke to reporters outside nato about fair defence contributions. well, it is not my influence, it is
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the influence we have other country that matters. i think it is very appropriate that the first foreign visit i have done is to nato summit because nato is the foundation of our peace and prosperity since the second world war, and britain an incredibly important role. the big topic at this summit has been burden sharing between the different nato countries and we think president trump is basically right that the foundation of a successful alliance is fair contributions by all parties. britain is one of a minority of nato countries that does spend 2%, but for nato to be sustainable and successful going forward , sustainable and successful going forward, all countries need to step up forward, all countries need to step up to the plate. let's talk now to tom fletcher, a former adviser to tony blair, gordon brown, and david cameron. katie perriror, former adviser to theresa may, she accompanied the prime minsiter to washington in 2017, and alastair campbell, former director of communications for tony blair.
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the mood between america and europe is pretty poisonous at the moment. why? let's be clear, the election of donald trump created a vacancy for a leader of the free world and you could see that the day of the election and that is spilling out summit by summit. we build these institutions. nato, the g8, the g7, the un. with huge patients, sacrifice, and he is quite systematically undermining them. sacrifice, and he is quite systematically undermining themm he undermining them? absolutely. he is doing it deliberately. with what purpose? because ultimately it is the slogan, america first. he is a nationalist. i am the slogan, america first. he is a nationalist. lam halfway the slogan, america first. he is a nationalist. i am halfway through madeleine albright's book on fascism, and it makes you think he is heading in that direction in terms of his psychology and mentality. i think he has a real problem with women and he has a real problem with women and he has a real problem with women and he has a real problem with angela merkel. somebody who with that of previous summit that he was at told me that trump goes round the place and he can't stand that woman because she is so
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ugly. maybe part of it is because germany does not spend what it has promised to spend on defence. the thing aboutjoe promised to spend on defence. the thing about joe mennie. .. but that isa thing about joe mennie. .. but that is a specific reason that he is cross about and maybe he has a point. he has got the point about defence spending but how you make those points, how you engage in those points, how you engage in those debates, how you go around the place without abusing people, when you are not abusing kim jong un and vladimir putin, he prefers dictators. we are seeing somebody here who is deliberately, and i think we will probably see a bit of this but maybe toned down a bit when he comes to the uk, what we see is somebody who is frankly driven purely by himself, purely by america. he doesn't like international institutions because they can act as a check on him. alistair campbell was involved in the hiring and firing a previous ministers. donald trump comments on women or race, would that get him sacked from the uk cabinet?m
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women or race, would that get him sacked from the uk cabinet? it is ha rd sacked from the uk cabinet? it is hard to know what gets you cite these days but i would hope so. ultimately our values are important. people think the protesting will be too big and the baby blimp and all this stuff but i think he does need to know that americans need to know that yes, we want and we have a close relationship with the united states, but he does not share our values and that needs to be called out. katie, the point about defence spending, he said to the prime minister of norway recently that it would be really difficult to justify to american citizens why we are spending so much on defence when the rest of nato is not fulfilling their promises? absolutely. he is delivering, whether you like it or not. he is a man i don't like very much. i had that opinion when i went for lunch with him and i left with that opinion. what was it like having lunch with him? he is absolutely a man putting american people first and he will go back and say why did these people protest against me? they don't like it when i put yourjob is first and say we
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pay too much money compared to eve ryo ne pay too much money compared to everyone else. sometimes the publicity one way or another. what does that mean in practical terms? ignore president trump, not rise to every tweet, no matter how despicable it is in terms of some of the things he says about women and ethnic minorities and migrants. i deplore all of those things and i absolutely back the right to protest, but i think we look slightly childish on the world stage when we are flying big balloons in london with a half naked president trump. he is the democratically elected leader of the free world, the president of the united states, andi the president of the united states, and i think the pending on £600 billion of trade that goes on between our two countries, we should have a grown—up discussion around the table. brexit depending on £600
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billion of trade. if you don't have a strong billion of trade. if you don't have a strong economy, billion of trade. if you don't have a strong economy, you don't have a strong defence. he may have a point about china. he may have a point about china. he may have a point about the trade issues that he addresses and about iran but it is the way he makes it. the way he is trying to build alliances and break them up. is he trying to break up nato? if he is not, he is going about it in a very odd way. back to this point about him preferring the man to man stuff, dealing with vladimir putin and kim jong un. man to man stuff, dealing with vladimir putin and kimjong un. he is probably sitting at nato thinking why are the albanians here? why are we why are the albanians here? why are we dealing with small countries? another point which is important on this trip, i think, we understand the damage he is doing to politics all around the world by such a loose regard to fact and truth. he said that russia provides 70% of
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germany's energy. it is a present. it is one of those inconvenient facts. —— it is 8%. he creates an impression. why does he want to fall out with angela merkel? honestly, i don't know. he has got a point but the way he makes it suggests he is a destructive force at one of the things that risk is our security. but at the summit with kim jong un didn't he make world were three received? i don't know. that will be judged over time. was it yet another show that he can command just like the vladimir putin thing will be yet another show? he is a reality tv show star. in his own mind it is all about him. does the need for nato remain? where is the threat from and what is the form of the threat? absolutely it does. we invoked the right to collective security after 9/11 when we all stood behind the
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americans. i agree with katie. we have got to have a relationship with the leader of the american people, out of respect for the american people. maybe we respect that more than the current president does, but we can than the current president does, but we can do that. we can receive him with dignity and then we can spell out the areas where we disagree. people are asking whether we have put the queen in a difficult position by having to meet a man like president trump. she has met more presidents and he has organised miss world contests.” more presidents and he has organised miss world contests. i think america is different and we all see america as being different. what people find so scary about the world at the moment, with russia so urgent and china so powerful, and this is why it is that matters for us to be turning our backs on the european union at the moment, putting our eggs union at the moment, putting our eggsin union at the moment, putting our eggs in the basket of somebody who is so unreliable. katie, you have said the balloons and all the rest
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of it make britain look immature and silly, but in terms of protesters on the streets, what will mr trump make of them? if he even sees them when he turns on the tv news that night. that is a really good point. he relies on his team and advisers to tell him what is going on and they probably don't include that on the press cuttings. but we know he liked to go to bed at night with the television on, is going on, so he might catch of it. he thrives of people watching him. this plays into ms oddments back home of what he wa nts to ms oddments back home of what he wants to stand up for. people are protesting because we don't like the fa ct we protesting because we don't like the fact we are putting america first. it is right that people speak out and alistair is right about our values and standing up for things we believe in and we should say no to some of the things he talks about. he is the originator of fake news in my opinion and we have got to deal with that through our media and the way we tackle him. i don't envy
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theresa may right now. if i was at number 10 theresa may right now. if i was at number10| theresa may right now. if i was at number 10 i would be on american time because there is no way i would be asleep when he is awake. you worked alongside him for many years, soi worked alongside him for many years, so i want to ask about sir christopher meyer. his wife has said he has been attacked and is in hospital and his left eye looks like a golf ball and possibly a broken nose. you knew him pretty well for yea rs. nose. you knew him pretty well for years. christopher is a real fighter, a bruiser. he loves conversation and he is a real knock—about diplomat. it is awful what has happened and i know we all wish him a swift recovery and i am sure he is watching at home. he is in hospital but he might be watching in the background. thank you all of you and thank you for coming on the programme. coming up: the parents of seven—year—old sophia gibson want to be able to legally treat their daughter with cannabis oil. danielle and darren gibson say the medication relieves the symptoms of dravet syndrome, a severe form of epilepsy. their application to the special
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cannabis panel was made on their behalf by consultant neurologist and brain injury expert professor mike barnes. he'lljoin me on the programme to discuss how soon their wish might be granted. the effort to rescue a team of young footballers in thailand from a flooded cave has gripped the world over the past couple of weeks. the last boys and their coach were rescued on tuesday. two british divers, volunteers, who helped rescue the group, have arrived back in london this morning. one of them, john volanthen, was the first voice the footballers and their coach heard after nine days trapped underground. he's been speaking to reporters at heathrow. we are very pleased it worked out quite so well. it worked out. the results speak for themselves. with the result of an international team of military and civilian divers working alongside the thai navy,
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everybody pulled together and the results speak for themselves and we arejust very results speak for themselves and we are just very pleased that the boys are just very pleased that the boys are out and say. what did you think when you saw all 12 boys in that cave? relief is the word i would use to describe it. we are very pleased and relieved that they were all all right but at that point we realised the enormity of the situation. that is perhaps why it took a while to get them all out. tell us what conditions were like in that cave. obviously flooded, dark, poor visibility underwater, so a lot of difficulty. but with a strong international team we were able to ove rco m e international team we were able to overcome these difficulties and ultimately the results speak for themselves. there is talk of you getting an award for this. how would that make you feel? we are not heroes. what we do is very calculating, very calm, quite the opposite. that is what we do. we ta ke opposite. that is what we do. we take it one step at a time and hopefully as we have managed in this
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case we come up hopefully as we have managed in this case we come up with the result but it is really the international team i would like to focus on and the thai seals. i was about to say, our condolences to the family. it was an absolute tragedy. it is kind of bittersweet for what has otherwise been an excellent operation. what we re been an excellent operation. what were you saying to the boys before you were bringing them out to reassure them? i think doctor harry, the australian doctor, is very good. he has got a very good bedside manner. a bouncy australian accent and they seemed to find that quite relaxing and reassuring. that seemed to work. what was the most dangerous pa rt to work. what was the most dangerous part of the rescue? we are very calculating, we are very calm, and everything is one step at a time. it is just not like that. it is very ha rd is just not like that. it is very hard work. and a large team that can
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provide results. let's get the latest weather with simon. hello. england are out of the world cup and look what has happened. we have had some rain this morning. the first measurable, significant rain for many of us in weeks. this photo here from one of our weather watchers was actually across south wales. but we have had rain fall quite widely across the east of wales, the west midlands, into north west england as well. some of that rain will continue but some of us have had sunshine this morning. this was in hampshire with blue skies. if you have got cloud around at the moment, the sunshine will pop out eventually. sunny spells developing across many parts of england and wales, and the north west of scotland getting sunshine as well. we will focus on the showers. this afternoon in south—west scotland, look at the bright colours, indicative of heavy and
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slow moving showers across parts of cumbria, wales, north west england, the north midlands and the west country. these have been very hit and miss. many of us will stay dry but if you catch one of these showers, it could be torrential. maybe even localised flooding as well. temperatures up to 26 degrees in the capital and 18 or 22 further north. those showers will gradually fizzle out tonight taking us into friday morning. a fair amount of cloud around taking us into friday. overnight temperatures ten to 16 degrees. on friday we do it all again really. there will be a lot of cloud in the morning but sunny spells developing into the afternoon and also heavy and torrential showers and thunderstorms across north west england, wales, into the midlands, central and southern parts of england. more widespread showers tomorrow with a greater chance of more of us catching the downpours. the first significant rain for many
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of us in some weeks. on the other side of the atlantic, hurricane chris is moving its way towards newfoundland. i am showing you this hurricane because it will weaken to a tropical storm and then a depression and it will move its way over the atlantic and it will bring something of a change to our weather. the remnants of it will move into iceland but we open the door to more atlantic weather systems as we go into the weekend. but it will also bring in much warmerair but it will also bring in much warmer air from but it will also bring in much warmer airfrom the but it will also bring in much warmer air from the south. while there will be more cloud and rain across western areas, temperatures will start to rise for most areas of england and wales and scotland as well. very warm with temperatures up to 31. dry for many with sunshine but cloudier towards northern and western areas. this is the outlook for saturday and sunday. across northern areas you can see that and in the south largely dry with sunshine. goodbye. hello.
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it's 10 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. 26.5 million of us watched england's 2—1 defeat by croatia in the world cup semifinal in russia. fans sing. # looking back on where we first met # i cannot escape and i cannot forget # southgate, you're the one you still turn me on. # football's coming home again # i think a lot of us thought we would go out maybe the quarters, but i'm really proud of the team, how they performed. the way they played football is unbelievable. i have never seen england play football like that in my life. unfortunately, the croatians beat us. such is life. ad says i feel heartbroken for team. an open top bus is in order. another said with overpaid players we were simply not good enough for the big moment. president trump arrives in the uk in a couple of hours' time. he'll have meetings with theresa may and visit
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the queen at windsor castle. but some criticism continues of the decision to allow him to come here at all. we are seeing somebody here who is deliberately, we will see a bit of this when he comes to the uk, what we are seeing is somebody who frankly is driven purely by himself and by america and does not like these international institutions because they can act as a check on him. it led to the resignation of two cabinet ministers — this morning we'll get details of the deal agreed at chequers last week, on the uk's relationship with the european union, after brexit. the crucial thing the customs union is it it means we are leaving in a way that allows us to make deals. we'll speak to mps about whether they support the proposals here's carole is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the days news. president trump has
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arrived at the second day of the nato summit in brussels — ahead of his first visit to britain as us president. tonight, theresa may will host a dinnerfor him and his wife melania, with 100 guests and ministers. on friday, mr trump will meet the queen. thousands of people are expected to take part in protests against his visit. proposals for the uk's future relationship with the eu are set to be unveiled today by the new brexit secretary dominic raab. a white paper, based on what was discussed at last weeks cabinet meeting at chequers, will be published in the commons later. the plans, which must now be finalised with the european council by october, sparked several high—level cabinet resignations. buses and cars have been set alight and petrol bombs and missiles thrown in northern ireland as violence broke out during the so—called eleventh night celebrations. the annual loyalist event, which traditionally involves the lighting of bonfires, takes place the day before the anniversary of protestant king william's victory at the battle of the boyne in 1690.
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it follows rising tensions caused by restrictions on the size of a number of bonfires. 12 boys and their football coach are recovenbring in hospital are recovering in hospital following their dramatic rescue from a flooded cave in thailand. pictures released yesterday show the group in hospital gowns and facemasks, but they are said to be in good health. new pictures also show how the risky mission was carried out. one of the british divers who helped out in the rescue, john volanthen has just arrived back in the uk and has been speaking to journalists. it worked out. the results speak for themselves. with the result of an international team of military and civilian divers working alongside the thai navy, everybody pulled together and the results speak for themselves. we are happy the boys are out and safe. two teenagers have been
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arrested in connection with the assault of sir christopher meyer at london's victoria station yesterday. the former british ambassador to the united states was taken to hospital after suffering injuries to his eye, nose and lip when he was confronted by a gang of youths yesterday afternoon. ryanair is cancelling 30 flights between ireland and the uk today because of a strike by pilots. talks between management and trade unions to stop the 24—hour walkout failed yesterday. the irish airlines pilots' association is accusing the company of not taking their concerns over pay and working conditions seriously. the reality tv star kyliejenner is set to become the youngest self—made us billionaire. forbes says the 20—year—old, who is the youngest of the kardashian sisters, is worth $900 million after launching a successful cosmetics firm two years ago. in comparison her sister,
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kim kardashian west, is worth less than half of that amount at $350 million. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30. thank you. jane said i do not normally watch football but this england team picked up everyone's spirits and they have to be proud. h said they had never seen such appalling refereeing. he allowed nasty and bullying brutal tactics to go unaddressed. and he said good luck to england on saturday, coming third orfourth is no bad result. sarah is at the bbc sport centre. the world cup dream is overfor england — they're out tournament, beaten 2—1 by croatia at the semifinal stage last night. it had all looked so rosy for england just five minutes in, kieran trippier scoring from a free—kick to put them 1—0 lead.
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they dominated the first half and could've gone further in front but harry kane just couldn't find his touch when it mattered. croatia really took control in the second half. ivan perisic equalised to send the game to extra time, then mario mandzukic scored the winner. it's the furthest england have got in a tournament since 1990 and the manager says they can hold their heads high. i am incredibly proud to have led them, they left everything out there. ithink... we will reflect on chances we might have taken, goals we conceded, but the distance we have come in such a short period of time, really, and the effort they have given. i think the reaction
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of the supporters at the end shows what they think of the team. that is obviously a big change in a two—year period. this does feel like the start of something, rather than the end — and what's really come over during this world cup run is the spirit in the side and a reconnection with england fans. such a contrast to previous campaigns — this is a young squad with a great future — and they'll have the supporters behind them. it was a huge day at wimbledon and defending champion roger federer is out after defeat to south africa's kevin anderson. federer had a match point in the third set, but remarkably anderson came all the way back into it and won the decider — by 13 games to 11. he'll take on john isner in the semi—finals. rafa nadal was also taken to five sets byjuan martin del potro.
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he had to fight for every point, chasing one forehand so much he ended up in the crowd! but he came through to set up a meeting with another former champion, novak djokovic. england batsman alex hales will miss today's opening one—day international against india at trent bridge with a side injury. the problem will be assessed on a match by match basis and he's been replaced in the squad by david malan for this one. geraint thomas is hoping that team sky will allow him to challenge for the tour de france title, rather than merely acting as part of chris froome's support group. froome had a problem with his bike on stage five — he's 57 seconds behind leader greg van avermaet, but thomas is only five seconds off the pace. the stage ended in another win for peter sagan. that's all the sport for now. the peak tv audience, 26.5 million,
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for watching last night and it does not take into account those watching in pubs, open spaces parks, so it makes it the most watched five minutes of tv in this country since the olympics closing ceremony in 2012. quite a few of you are saying english supporters as citizen should continue to be upbeat. some on calling for an open top bus parade when the team comeback. many more if you say listen, a round of applause when they arrived back at heathrow will suffice. we can look at their progress through the world cup. 2-0. welcome to volgograd. nine of england's
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that's a headerforjohn stones that's gone in. how emphatic was that? jesse lingard. billed as a match neither side desperately wanted to win, it almost seemed belgium where beating themselves up for taking the lead. we are a team that are improving. which half of the draw, who knows what is right or wrong. let's hope there are no dark clouds on the horizon. and england have a penalty. ice—cool harry kane.
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the big man has done it for colombia. heartbreakfor the men in red. was it really happening again? extra time came and went. the inevitable loomed. taken calmly by eric dier. eric dier does it. the nation able to rejoice at long last. # looking back on where we first met # i cannot escape and i cannot forget # southgate, you're the one # you still turn me on. # football's coming home again # music: it's coming home. # it's coming home
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# it's coming... it's coming home. coming home. and it's headed firmly in! harry maguire got his head to it. this is the stuff of dreams from the three lions. i can't speak highly enough of the whole squad and the whole group of staff, because it is so united and their level of work has been great, their commitment to each other.
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you don't get through with just 11 players. i hope everybody at home enjoys tonight, because it's not very often, as we know, that it's happened. here in moscow, the moment england's fans had waited 28 years for. that how long it had been since that team last had the chance to reach football's greatest stage. trippier will have the run. shot. kieran trippier has scored for england. music: champagne supernova
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dele alli weights the pass. lingard. what a chance. what a cross, and it's turned in. perisic came in to score. back in by perisic. there's mandzukic! they run away, and history is made. as croatia reaches the world cup final for the very first time. and after all that effort, all that energy, the ghost of ‘66 lives on for england. they have given it such a good go.
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there is real hope for the future. it is quite sad. with us this morning a group of people who've given up their morning to talk about where the england team can go from here. everybody is an england supporter. carl anka a journalist and england fan. dr david fletcher, a performance psychologist, lifelong england fan. and leicester city fans big ann and sandra fixter. carrie dunn, a football writer. hydall codeen, who is also a writer who writes about the cultural impact of england world cup campaign so far. nigel rothband, who hosts a football podcast. and from moscow, i'm joined by karan rai. and kevin morris, steve and louise.
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who were both at the match last night. do you think the youngest generation, boys and girls who stayed up last night to watch to the end will be burdened by this semifinal defeat in the way many of us have felt potentially burdened since 1990? i am not sure burton is the world. it was a glorious defeat —— burden is the word. it is uplifting how we went through this tournament. what i find interesting about world cups is how stories repeat themselves and the kit i am wearing is inspired by italy 1990 and the kit, adults wearing what they heroes wore 20 years ago, subconsciously acting out then. croatia and france acting out
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previously, things constantly repeat. if this is the first time use see england play, do you know it is not normal? i have have to say that to my kids. they were aware of what happened in brazil and vaguely aware of south africa. they know frank lampard's goal was over the line. will they watch on youtube harry kane missing the header over and again? like we have watched the penalty defeat from 1990? and again? like we have watched the penalty defeat from 1990 ?” and again? like we have watched the penalty defeat from 1990? i think there will be amazing documentaries on dvds pundits who in 20 years will be asked why they got into football and a lot will say russia 2018.m is interesting. i was a ten—year—old kid in 1990. i do not think burdened is the right word. i think winning a world cup... i've only seen the
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men's team get to the semifinal and lose, it seems to be our limit and that seems right. watching the highlights from 1990! remember being upset for paul gascoigne because he was crying and it was sad but watching it now i want to cry for bobby robson, the quiet dignity he showed in defeat in that way. i feel that way about gareth southgate. it is different looking back as an aduu is different looking back as an adult than a kid. how do you go on when you were 11 in 1966? is that a burden? that was you? watching at great yarmouth with my dad. so, you have been waiting a long time. let's look at the positives, demons conquered, winning a penalty shoot out. first knockout win in a world cup for years. it must give the mental strength. you mention
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penalties, that is massive for this england team. on a personal level for gareth southgate, he has exorcise to that personal demon for himself. when we got to extra time yesterday, people had jitters, himself. when we got to extra time yesterday, people hadjitters, but we we re yesterday, people hadjitters, but we were not as fearful of it going to penalties. it did not happen, but i felt to penalties. it did not happen, but ifelt more confident to penalties. it did not happen, but i felt more confident if we were going that far. the other demon is how we froze in big games. when we played iceland. the fear and freezing of the players. that is not the only example. but in this world cup, about every game, we have shown we can attack the teams and i think thatis we can attack the teams and i think that is a huge positive. what have you loved most about this tournament, it can be absolutely anything? it could be the country,
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russia, what would you say? the last month has been the best experience of my life. how old are you? i am 24, so this is the first opportunity to come to a world cup. i am lucky to come to a world cup. i am lucky to have got this far for my first time. this has been the best experience of your 24 years? 10096, seeing the england fans last night singing don't look back in anger by oasis. i do not think i will see anything like it again. the people are incredible. it has been an amazing experience. did you shed a tear? yes, and i did this morning. it has been tough. i thought we would go all the way but because one dream has ended does not mean many more have ended. this is the beginning and! more have ended. this is the beginning and i think we can challenge. kevin and steve, what
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have you loved most about this?” challenge. kevin and steve, what have you loved most about this? i am proud to be british but also proud to watch my english football team abroad and to have seen how everybody has conducted themselves in russia, the atmosphere, the build—up yesterday, it was immense. we did not get there but to see how we performed it has been superb and eve ryo ne we performed it has been superb and everyone has looked after us in russia and in moscow the last few days, they have been hospitable.” echo that. i came out three and a half weeks ago. i'm sorry, i have just recognised you again. yes, and we just recognised you again. yes, and we went to the england and tunisia match and from there we moved on. i we nt match and from there we moved on. i went home and last weekend i had to come back. it has been such a wonderful experience. for the england team to do so well has been
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a fantastic positive. in a brilliant country, no political problems, it is all about football. what about you, louise? i am working here as a journalist and massive england fan. the colour of the world cup, all the fans. the england fans coming and having a magnificent time. the fans i spoke to last night after the game we re i spoke to last night after the game were in tears ofjoy not sadness. we have had a phenomenal world cup. we have had a phenomenal world cup. we have come together as one. it has been an incredible experience and it is my first world cup as a journalist and russia, moscow, how warm the people have been. it has been an incredible experience. and being in the stadium, to watch the emotions and everything last night, there is a really bright future for
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injured. nigel, what have you loved and hated most? we fortunate in this day and age of social media, the cove rage day and age of social media, the coverage on the tv and following it on social media, an amusing one is who would have thought a middle—aged man ina who would have thought a middle—aged man in a waistcoat would have captured the imagination of the nation? i suspect that famous store that sells them, i think they are half price this morning.” that sells them, i think they are half price this morning. i got one on tuesday and it was expensive. the negative, because this is the first world cup where we have had var, which was trialled in the premier league, and i am not a fan. we have brought in some technology. goalline technology, factual, instant, goes to the referee and within seconds we know if it is a goal. the difficulty with var, unlike other sports,
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people often compare cricket, which isa people often compare cricket, which is a different game, the bowler will bowl a ball and the batsmen play it and the game stops. football is a flowing, dynamic game and the problem with a foul, the law states if in the opinion of the referee. it is about opinion. and it goes upstairs and we will have seven referees looking at it and four will think it is and three do not. that is the problem with the rules of football, they are based on the opinion of referees and the rules of interpretation. what do you think? i think it is anathema to the spirit of the game. the game is about motion and the possibility anything can happen on the pitch and any of those players can be protagonists. anything that disrupts the flow and makes it feel more american and submissive to the demands of a tv
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spectacle is contrary to the reasons why i think... why i love football. it encourages players to run after referees and give them all this and ido referees and give them all this and i do not like to see that. let's get on with the game. i am not sure i agree with that completely. i think it stops blatant cheating where a tea m it stops blatant cheating where a team is losing and it is coming to the end of the match and they blata ntly the end of the match and they blatantly dive in the box. it has not stopped the cheating. it has changed... how many fouls on harry kane? he must be the most fouled player in the tournament, it is a joke. gamesmanship will exist in all sport and one of the first laws of by sport and one of the first laws of rugby is to con the refs and the full— back but if you invent rugby is to con the refs and the full—back but if you invent rules people will find a loophole. this is the first time we have a good stuff out. we had 62 games of world cup
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foot ball out. we had 62 games of world cup football and we had one 1—1. —— out. we had 62 games of world cup footballand we had one 1—1. —— 0—0. it has increased the drama. it is a stepping stone to getting things right and bring a properfootball fan, when you come away from a match and you have lost because... a really awful decision, and i have been there many times, you cannot ta ke been there many times, you cannot take that away, it will help the game as it develops. football is also about the fact that it never stops, every season ends and begins. what games have you been watching? it never stops. there is always the next game, and if you have this about decisions that have not gone your way there is always an opportunity to write it in the next game which makes the vengeance suite
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at it adds to the rolling ball of the narrative. what have you loved most about the tournament? probably the sense of realism that gareth southgate has brought into the camp. a sense of togetherness and that sense of realism should carry through and when we come to celebrate and welcome them home, we should do so with an eye on the fact they have not gone there and won it, but they should be applauded, absolutely. we will talk more about appropriate welcomes in the next half—hour. see you soon, thank you for your contributions. we will talk to you again in the next half—hour, if you can be patient a little bit longer. six—year—old sophia gibson — one of the children waiting to be treated legally in this country with cannabis — is now out of intensive care
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in belfast after she was moved there because she suffered what was described as a ‘traumatic seizure‘. a home office spokesperson said: we completely sympathise with the families who have been facing desperate situations as they try to find treatment. that is why the government has taken action, creating an expert panel to review individual medicinal cannabis licence applications. speaking to bbc radio 4 5 today programme yesterday, sophia‘s mother danielle davis gave her reaction to the statement. for the home office to release a statement saying they sympathise, come over to the royal victoria in belfast right now. see my daughter. see us. and then released a statement of how you feel. because asa statement of how you feel. because as a mother, ifeel so horrible because i know there is something out there that can help sophia but ifi out there that can help sophia but if i was to bring it into this
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country, i‘m classed as a criminal. so i‘m asking the department of health to come. i will meet them at the front door. i will give them consent to come up and see my daughter. this cannot keep happening. it is going to come the day when i am visiting a headstone and not the hospital and i pray to god that doesn‘t happen. the application to the special cannabis panel set up by the home secretary was made on behalf of sophia‘s family by the consultant neurologist and brain injury expert professor mike barnes. good morning. how is sophia first of all? i am pleased to say she is better this morning, up and having brea kfast, better this morning, up and having breakfast, and the danger period is fortu nately breakfast, and the danger period is fortunately behind her for this time round. why do you say this time round? the nature of the condition is that she is going to continue to have seizures. she has many tens of seizures each week if not 100. that has been hugely helped by the cannabis that she had in holland and
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that reduced those seizures by well over 50%. when the illegal component thc was added, that reduced the seizures by 90%, which is a remarkable change. what stage is the family at with the application?m was put in five or six days ago and i gather, although i haven‘t been notified formally yet, that they might issue a licence today, hopefully. its five or six days too long? it was in her case, yes. there was the risk of what actually happened, her going into hospital with those seizures. we shouldn‘t forget the several hundred other such children out there still having seizures who are not yet on cannabis medication who might be helped by it. do you think the evidence is out there now to show that this product is reliable? yes, definitely. the evidence has been out there for quite a long time actually. we shouldn‘t forget that is not just for childhood epilepsy. there is a
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variety of other conditions, sometimes adult epilepsy but also chronic pain, sickness after chemotherapy which is a big issue, post—traumatic stress disorder. i‘m not saying the evidence is hard for all of those but there is evidence for all those indications that many hundreds of thousands of people would be helped to some degree. hundreds of thousands of people would be helped to some degreem if the evidence is out there, why is the panel system needed? that is very good question. in fairness to the government, they are tackling a new issue. three weeks ago the government was saying this is a schedule one drug and therefore has no medicinal value, and that has turned 180 degrees in a short period of time. the chief medical officer has said there is overwhelming evidence of the efficacy of cannabis. in fairness to the home office and nick hurd and his department, they have put together this temporary panel very quickly. it isa this temporary panel very quickly. it is a pity they had to do so from pressure from and our pain. but
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nonetheless they have. i hope this is temporary because i would like to see a proper robust system put in place or that medicinal cannabis with control and restraint is put into place so doctors can prescribe it. thank you for talking to us. and thank you for your patience this morning as well. a long—awaited blueprint for the uk‘s relations with the eu will be published today, with ministers promising to deliver a practical and principled brexit. the plan for future trade and co—operation is aimed, the government says, at ensuring global trade deals and no hard border in northern ireland. the new brexit secretary dominic raab said it would respect the result of the 2016 brexit vote and enable the uk to strike new and beneficial trade deals. what the white paper does is give a lot of detail on what was agreed at chequers by the cabinet. we are leaving the eu, taking back control of our laws, our borders money, but
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also forging a special, ambitious and bold relationship with the eu on trade and security and on other areas of cooperation. the crucial thing on the customs union is we are leaving in a way that allows us to strike free trade deals abroad which doesn‘t damage the deal we have with the eu and avoid a return to the hardboard with the eu and avoid a return to the ha rdboa rd with northern the eu and avoid a return to the hardboard with northern ireland. that is the win when we are looking for. —— hardboard. so what are the key points of the brexit blueprint? the government proposes a free trade area for goods involving the uk and the eu that in effect continues existing arrangements for manufacturing and agricultural goods. they will look for a different arrangement for services. that makes up most of our economy, 80%. freedom of movement will come to an end but a mobility framework will ensure uk and eu citizens can easily travel and apply to study or work. thejurisdiction of the european court ofjustice will end but the uk will "pay
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regard" to its decisions in areas where common rules were in force. and a new customs arrangement will remove the need for checks and controls with the goal of creating a combined customs territory. to talk about this i‘m joined by conservative mp chris green who recently resigned a minor government post over brexit, labourmp chi onwurah, lib dem leader sir vince cable, and the snp health spokesperson, dr philippa whitford. thank you for coming on the programme. chris, what is it that is so contentious about the plan that you felt you had to resign? when the houses of commons gave the decision to the british people in the referendum, should we stay or should we go, that decision have to be clear. what is the bit from this blueprint that you didn‘t like? clear. what is the bit from this blueprint that you didn't like?m is direction of travel and my starting point is leaving the european union. but we have great relations with the european union
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now. we need to maintain those relations at we need to work up from wto to get a better relationship. relations at we need to work up from wto to get a better relationshipm it the common rule book or the single market for goods? it seems to be the approach of the government that we don‘t want to leave the european union, so how close can we remain to it and how little can we deviate? is he right? two years after the brexit vote we have still got conclusion and conflict. that could be a description of your own party as well. we have been very clear. you have not been that clear. we want a new comprehensive customs union with the european union as well as continued relationship with the single market. this is all about negotiation within the conservative party. it is not about negotiation with the european union. but do you acknowledge that within your own party there is also negotiation going on? it is split. it is not split in any way. what objective
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would you use? there has been some debate obviously but we have not had major resignations or and inability to agree on the substance. it is all about internal conservative issues. ican about internal conservative issues. i can see your snp colleagues smiling. not resignations. the numberof smiling. not resignations. the number of people who have been fired off the front bench in the labour party for agreeing with the single market or the customs union. if you look back over two years you will find... three four over a year. because of their views on brexit. we have not had opposition from labour. it has been very difficult for the tory remain rebels to rebel when sometimes they wouldn't know if labour were likely to get out of their seats and support a single market and customs union. old—fashioned party squabbling.
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there are two big issues of substance that need to be clarified today and they're not clear at the moment. one is whetherthe today and they're not clear at the moment. one is whether the new customs arrangements actually works. david davis said it didn't but let's see. david davis said it didn't but let's see. there is a big issue about whether it is even feasible. the second is what happens to the 80% of the economy that is in services. we are talking about creative industries, the city of london. these are massively important and not being catered for. some people suspect they are being thrown under a bus effectively and ignored but we need to see what they are. services are absolutely crucial to the economy, notjust in relation to the european union but the so—called trade deals of the rest of the world. how can we have a trade deal with india where services are necessarily involving greater freedom of movement which the government is not willing to concede. their questions. it is not just about industry and services as
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they are at the moment because we have the the industrial revolution coming on, artificial intelligence, and all sorts of opportunities they represent. —— the fourth industrial revolution. will it fall in the manufacturing sector? i have a concern that the services which are not so dominant in london have independent square rues the manufacturing sector should have the same freedom as the services sector. once this is published and you get to read the detail, from what you know of this right now, are you going to help mrs may get this through the comments? any of you? yes or no? the problem is that in actual fact manufactured goods and services can‘t be separated. many aspects of manufacturing wrapped up with services. many companies do not even biplanes, they lease them. so if it doesn‘t change? even biplanes, they lease them. so if it doesn't change? i welcome that she has moved closer to europe but what we saw in the 3—page summary is
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not coherent and she should make last step. i think the problem we now have is originally there was a simple choice, in the european union or not, and we basically have three positions. the fairly hard—line brexiteers, borisjohnson positions. the fairly hard—line brexiteers, boris johnson and jacob rees—mogg, and i guess yourself. people like myself who don't think we people like myself who don't think we should be leaving the european union, and people trying to cluster around theresa may's attempt at comprise and jeremy corbyn's position isn't very different to that. so how do you deal with three positions, none of which has a majority in the house of commons? we have got to go back to the public, i fear. that isn't going to happen. we need to negotiate a customs union that works for our economy, our jobs and hours of light is exactly what the labour party are setting out, comprehensive customs union, managed
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migration and a continued relationship with the single market. otherwise our economy will not be successful in the new technological era that you are talking about. the great concern i have is that this whole process becomes so, later that when the british people voted to make a decision that whatever the result is, brexit becomes some kind of fudge. —— so convoluted. we get rid of ourmeps of fudge. —— so convoluted. we get rid of our meps but everything else remains. we should have had this debate two yea rs remains. we should have had this debate two years ago. we did have that chance but i think the british people would clear with a! that chance but i think the british people would clear with a 1 million majority say we have got to leave. starting point wto but we can do better than that. not in scotland. thank you to all of you for coming on and being patient as well. we are going to talk about england again now. here is a picture of the
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session of the croatian government this morning. i am seeing this for the first time as well. are they milking it? just getting on with the job wearing croatian shirts? let‘s speak now to our reporter ashley john—ba ptiste who is in moscow‘s red square for us. tell us about the mood there. hello. a bit of devastation after england‘s heartbreaking semifinal loss. many england fans are making their way back home, heading to the airport. many are already on flights flying back to the uk. but as many england fa ns back to the uk. but as many england fans on the streets of moscow but i have been able to track some down. we have sam from cornwall and ali and kajan from london. what do you make of the result? probably a fair result. croatia were the better
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side. it is funny that we are in the position to be gutted to losing of semifinal after so many years. bittersweet, really. we have been to a world cup final, semifinal even. we saw the semifinal and we fell at the last hurdle. it is a show that we the last hurdle. it is a show that we will go again. devastated, really. we got caught up in the emotion of being at the game and it was an amazing environment, great atmosphere but we have woken up this morning and a hangover is kicking in and we are out of the world cup. the journey is over and it feels bad. but i think give it a week or two and we will look back on this tournament and think england did really well. talk to me about the expectations you had of the squad before the world cup started. fairly minimal. solid players but i think the superstars, in inverted commas, not like we have had before, but
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players like jesse not like we have had before, but players likejesse lingard. he stepped up, kieran trippier, mcguire, they have been fantastic. when gareth southgate got the job, i didn't want him. he was another yes—man. i want to jack wilshere in the squad. i was annoyed. i thought we the squad. i was annoyed. i thought we might get to the quarterfinals but what this group has done is incredible. surely some pride for how the squad has performed? definitely. they were unproven before. the superstars, wayne rooney, frank lampard, and this time we rooney, frank lampard, and this time we have had players like harry maguire, and they have been fantastic. i am like you. i thought the quarterfinals would have been a great tournament for us and i thought maybe going out in the second round but they have exceeded all expectations and they should be incredibly proud of themselves. as british fans, talk to me about your perceptions of russia. it has been fantastic. everybody was super
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friendly. people have been coming up to us and consoling us and saying we are really sorry about the results yesterday. everybody has been great. everybody has been so nice. pretty much everybody has put politics to one side. it isjust about people. any of you heading to st petersburg for the belgium — england game? any of you heading to st petersburg for the belgium - england game? not for the belgium - england game? not for that. we were at the quarterfinal last night but we are going home. there we go. over to you, victoria. thank you. ashley is coming home soon as well. kyliejenner is set to become the youngest—ever self made billionaire, says forbes magazine. she is worth $900 million atjust the age of 20 thanks to the booming cosmetics company she launched just two years ago. kyliejenner is the youngest of the six kardashian children. this clip from keeping up with the kardashians shows her and her mother kris discussing her cosmetics brand.
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so tell me about launching the brand online only. i think online only because we wanted to launch the brand without working with other people. one of her first rooms was she wanted to have an entire line of make—up products one day. i don‘t think we have a dream that it would happen so fast. chi chi is here. how has she made all this money? through her lips. when she was younger, kylie was paranoid about having thin lips. she said the boy that she wanted to kiss said she was not a good kisser because she had
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thin lips when she was really young. she decided to try and boost confidence using make—up. she started these things called lip kits, effectively a lip liner with a matching lipstick. she announced them the day before they went on sale in 2015. and it sold out within one minute. one minute! you are not exaggerating? not exaggerating. there is footage of how the fans crashed websites trying to get their hands on her lip kits, as she calls them, almost exclusively sold online. another element of her wealth is the fact that she uses social media like no other influencer. she has hundreds of millions of followers on instagram, snapchat and twitter. every day, apparently, she takes at least one picture an hour, displaying or if you like advertising exactly the kind of stuff that she is wearing. this week for example, i don‘t know
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if we have the picture is ready, but she admitted that she has taken out her temporary lip fillers which she put in her lips as part of a lack of confidence. she took them out and now she has got her natural lips back, and fans are not a little bit confused but massively adoring her because she has gone natural again. she is a massive influencer who has managed to make a hell of a lot of money through make—up. managed to make a hell of a lot of money through make-up. and she is still only 20. some people have said self—made billionaire? because she comes from a wealthy family. she does come from a wealthy and exceptionally well connected family. krisjenner slash exceptionally well connected family. kris jenner slash kardashian was really famous before she had any of her kardashians kits. the fact that the kardashian name is now a global brand has helped. kylie started modelling when she was about 15 for brands like top shop and that is how
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forbes have decided she made her money and invested it to make her own company. but on social media people are not happy with the self—made title because she didn‘t start by herself. thank you very much. the amount of per pupil spending in england‘s schools has fallen by 8% since 2010 and as much as 25% for sixth form colleges. that‘s in a report released today by the institute for fiscal studies. their research shows rising pupil numbers and cuts to local authorities have led to this real—term reduction in school spending. the department for education has responded to the report. it says school funding in england is at its highest ever level and will be rising to £43.5 billion by 2020. joining me in the studio is chris belfield,
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who worked on that report for the ifs, as well as bill watkin, the ceo of the sixth form colleges association. hello to both of you and thank you for talking to us. fill us in on the figures. we have been looking at the total amount of money spent on schools in real terms per pupil and we found that between 2009 and 2017, there was an 8% cut to that spending in england. that is a result of the fa ct in england. that is a result of the fact that pupil numbers have increased, 10% more students in schools than in 2009, and there is rising inflation, well, inflation, which means the costs that schools face have been increasing, and a big cut to the amount of money local authorities are spending on schools. asa authorities are spending on schools. as a result, schools have had to pick up extra activities and take on more responsibilities. they have taken on a bit more money but been asked to do a lot more with it. and schools have been saying this for a while now. they have, victoria. the
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situation in schools is not good. in six fours, it is even worse. —— in sixth forms. in the early 90s, school funding went up reasonably. sixth form colleges and in schools received no extra money and they have had no extra money since 1990 and they are getting the same today as they were nearly 30 years ago. if you think how much costs have increased in the last 30 years, the impact of sixth formers is significantly greater even than that in schools. we almost at the point where is unsustainable. if we find our students, 16 to 18—year—olds for 50 hours a week of tuition, that is all. -- 50 hours a week of tuition, that is all. —— 15 hours a week. in shanghai it is 30 hours, and in singapore it is 30 hours but in england it is 15 hours. if you have 15 hours of
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teaching a week and 25 hours in a timetable, there are ten hours of timetable, there are ten hours of time which is not taught, and we can guess which pupils make the best of those ten hours. it is not the ones the government is focusing on in terms of social mobility. this is a huge issue. the extra wraparound experiences that go to make up a really good sick from education are at risk. the support for mental health. —— good sixth form education. sixth formers particularly are having to pick up the services that were previously have been provided by the local authority in order to make sure that the mental well—being of young people is served properly, that they are well prepared for university and the workplace beyond. ok. i will bring in another speaker. steve mastin, chairman of the conservative education society. what is your response to these
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figures from the attitude for fiscal studies? good morning. ithink figures from the attitude for fiscal studies? good morning. i think my response is that it does reflect the real situation in schools. but the government has increased funding and i don‘t think there is any doubt about that whatsoever. for the prime minister to say that school funding has gone up is definitely true. to say that in real terms has that meant that more pupils are getting more money? i think there are two things to consider. the first is that pupil numbers are rising and quite dramatically. we can talk about the reasons for that but that is one factor. another factor is called the funding formula introduced by the government a few yea rs introduced by the government a few years ago to make sure that schools we re years ago to make sure that schools were funded more fairly across the country. sorry. your line keeps
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freezing. we got most of it. the funding has gone up, yes. pupil numbers have risen disproportionately, so that ends up meaning there is not as much money as they should be for pupils. what do you think the conservative government should do about this? there are two things. the first is the fairfunding there are two things. the first is the fair funding formula. for 30 yea rs the fair funding formula. for 30 years schools were funded...” the fair funding formula. for 30 years schools were funded... i am sorry, i have got to pause that because it is so frustrating. we might talk to steve on the phone because he can‘t get to the end of a sentence. from your point of view, it is true that school funding has gone up. you would agree? the total money given to schools has gone up but there are more pupils, rising costs, and the amount of money that other organisations that local authorities are spending on schools has gone down, meaning that overall the amount of money per pupil in
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real terms of a percent lower than it was in 2009. what needs to be done? 896 in schools but 2596 for sixth form. modern mangojuice classes are being cut. stem subject are being cut. ! modern language classes are being cut. we need more money, absolutely. thank you. we will end the programme by going back to what happened last night. even though the dream is over for england supporters at this world cup, plenty of fa ns supporters at this world cup, plenty of fans are very optimistic about the future. england! best world cup. they have done the country proud. gave absolutely everything.
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i think they will get a really good reception going home. they deserve it. the way they have played foot ball it. the way they have played football was unbelievable. i have never seen football was unbelievable. i have never seen england play football like that. i think it will restore some hope, just a bit of belief in the team. for 20 years we haven't been able to get anywhere in the world cup. team spirit. they have been brilliant for the country. i am so happy for them. if everybody back home shares the enthusiasm that was shared here, we willjust give them a heroes welcome. phil and can say we are scottish and we are so is that england lost. if they had won
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the world cup they would have brought it back to great britain. chris said they are back from the world cup after performing beyond our expectations but heroes? really? and ed says i have never ever been as proud as the england team as i am now. they fought all the way. thank you for those. we are back tomorrow at nine o‘clock. have a good day. bbc newsroom live is up next. good morning. some of us may have enjoyed a bit of rainfall this morning. weather watchers in bristol commented on the fact it was the first time we have seen puddles for quite a while. rain affecting north west england, wales, the midlands and into the west country. it is in these areas that there will be some heavy and slow—moving thundery showers moving in bringing the risk of flash flooding. but very isolated for most of us. dry for most of us
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this afternoon with increasing sunshine and temperatures ranging from 21 in the north to 26 further south. this evening and overnight, the showers fizzle away, slowly dying into the early hours of friday morning. a dry night for many of us and temperatures down to 11 or 15. tomorrow we do it all again. we start off cloudy with sunny spells developing into the afternoon. more ofa developing into the afternoon. more of a risk of heavy and torrential rain. more details on that throughout the morning. this is bbc news. i‘m annita mcveigh, live at regent‘s park in central london.
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where president trump will be arriving in a few hours‘ time. the headlines at 11. in just a couple of hours‘ time — donald trump will touchdown in the uk for his first visit here since becoming us president. he‘s flying in from brussels — where he‘s demanded nato allies double the amount they commit to defence spending. we think president trump is basically right. the foundation of a successful alliance is fair contributions by all parties. across the uk, extra security has been put in place — as demonstrations are expected in protest at the president‘s visit.
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