tv The Papers BBC News July 12, 2018 11:30pm-12:01am BST
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s, , 16; w m q a w: ~ scotland sunday morning before turning lighter and patchy again through the afternoon. a bit of dampness in western counties of northern ireland, otherwise it is dry and feeling warmer for most, even hot in parts of england and wales with highs of up to 31 in the south—east. hello, this is bbc news. we will be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment. first the headlines at 11:30pm: president trump has arrived in the uk for his first official visit since taking office. the president has warned that theresa may's plan for close ties with the eu after brexit will probably kill any trade deal between britain and the us. it comes on the day the government has published its blueprint for uk relations with the european union. the proposal is aimed at ensuring trade co—operation, with no hard border for northern ireland, and global trade deals for the uk. injapan, at least 200 people are reported to have been killed in the worst flooding there in decades and the british diver who helped rescue the 12 schoolboys
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and their football coach from a flooded cave in thailand says he doesn't consider himself a hero. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the political correspondent for the evening standard kate proctor, and journalist and broadcasterjohn sta pleton. to see you again. —— good to see you again. many of tomorrow's front pages are already in. the sun carries an exclusive interview with donald trump, who says theresa may's brexit negotiating strategy might have killed off the possibility of a trade deal with the united states. this makes an interesting contrast to the guardian, who report that mrs may is using mr trump's visit to push
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for exactly that type of deal. the telegraph leads with the president's view that the uk brexit negotiating strategy could be unpopular with the voters. the mail also leads with mr trump's thoughts on the proposal, questioning whether it will actually deliver brexit. the mirror says the comments will have embarrassed theresa may. the express says it isn'tjust the president of the united states who has reservations about the plan. it claims conservative mps are in open revolt against their leader. the metro has a slightly different take on mr trump's visit. it reports his view that "brits like me a lot." and the financial times leads with a warning from the city that the government's brexit strategy could be bad for business. so those are the front pages. let's dip into the sun. there are
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various elements to this donald trump interview. principally, the sun's political editor conducted this interview inside the american embassy in brussels before mr trump went to the nato summit meeting in which he is quoted as saying that theresa may has racked brexit. —— wrecked brexit. he said if the chequers deal goes ahead that probably means no deal with the us for the probably means no deal with the us forthe uk, probably means no deal with the us for the uk, because he wouldn't be dealing with the uk, he would be dealing with the uk, he would be dealing with the uk, he would be dealing with europe. and as we know, he is not friends with europe for all sorts of reasons, not least because of the tariff wall which is going on. he has also said that he told mrs may how to conduct these negotiations —— tariff war. she ignored his advice and went ahead anyway, and he also says that boris
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johnson was right when he said that he, president trump, would go in, quote, bloody hard over the brexit negotiations. so he said yes, mrs may got it wrong. trump could have done it better, and most importantly, if we continue with the chequers deal, as it were, then no deal with the usa. you have to wonder if this came up over dinner at blenheim palace. i amjust wondering at 10pm if people started checking their phones and seeing this story come in. it couldn't be more awkward for the uk government. this is the most explosive interview, and well done to tom for getting this for the son. i have to wonder who trump is speaking to, whether it is too buoyed up british brexiteers. he is certainly not speaking to angela merkel or macron,
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and really he has managed to make wrecks at all about himself but also raise his grievance that he has with the eu over the aluminium and steel tariffs. and ijust think it is remarkable that brexit is now trump's view. the word wide ranging is perhaps too often used to describe an interview but looking at these two pages in front of me here, he is talking about europe, the nhs, and england football shirt, and sadiq khan, the london mayor he had an ongoing row with. he accused sadiq khan of being hopeless in dealing with it because sadiq khan had said at the time that people shouldn't be too concerned about the increased police presence, et cetera. he has renewed that attack in even more ferocious terms, saying donald trump claims the mayor of london, sadiq khan, is responsible for the terror attacks on the british capital, on london. he is
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the reason for those terror attacks is that the mayor has letting too many immigrants. well, the mayor has absolutely nothing to do with the number of immigrants who come into this country, and indeed the capital, that is government and home office policy. nevertheless, mr trump has felt able to say that it is sadiq khan's fault that we had these terror attacks, the leading into many immigrants. incendiary doesn't even begin to describe it. if he wants an excuse for londoners to demonstrate tomorrow, they have been given one. he links terrorism with immigration and some of the language he uses is really unsavoury. and to be honest, i think some of it has overtones of racism. i think it is going to be really upsetting read for people. today, he we nt upsetting read for people. today, he went out of nato this morning, told every one in europe and meandered around with some of his throwaway comments. but here i think it is such an attack on sadiq khan that i
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think this piece is going to run and i’ui'i think this piece is going to run and run into tomorrow. and sadiq khan will have to come back on this. and the more you read into it the more you realise it is about trump. he is thin—skinned and he is upset about what sadiq khan said about him in the first place, saying he showed a lack of respect, because he is entitled not to like him personally, but he represents america and he showed a lack of respect for america. obviously very rattled indeed by sadiq khan's criticisms. lets ta ke indeed by sadiq khan's criticisms. lets take on some of the other papers on what they are saying. in the times, trump issues soft brexit blueprint. focusing more on what she is saying in this white paper. exactly, so donald trump's point is that it appears the brexit deal that theresa may wants to strike is too close to europe, it is not hard enough. and there is some suggestion here that actually trump is being
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buoyed up by some of the pro— leave mps, and we have iain duncan smith, whose name is mentioned. he met john bolton, didn't he, trump's security adviser. yes, so there is the idea that trump has had a direct year to what has been going on in the uk. —— direct ear. i think there will be a huge leap going on and on over the next week, and trump ploughing in in the way he has has lit the fire. i do think pro— brexit, pro— leave mps will be really buoyed up by what has been said. and they will buy the front of the daily mail. what happens from here on in, we will wait to find out, but absolutely right. we have just wait to find out, but absolutely right. we havejust mentioned iain duncan smith, and several mps, bill
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cash, for example, horrified at the prospect of this chequers deal going through, jacob rees—mogg another one, and it is quite clear it is still causing a major row within the tory party between the brexiteers and the remainers, who threatened to kibosh it when it goes before parliament. then parliament has to 0k parliament. then parliament has to ok all of this, even before we get to deal with the eu. and this line, that the deal is not what the british people had voted for, from donald trump, in this case, but it does echo the views of the likes of jacob rees—mogg, that this is not the brexit that they say people wanted. and if you look at the letters pa g e wanted. and if you look at the letters page of the daily telegraph 01’ letters page of the daily telegraph or the daily mail, i mean, the daily telegraph letters editor said he had never received so many letters on one subject, since the mps because expenses scandal, and all of those
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letters have been accusing mrs may of treason. and all of this as well, it is mentioned in one of the other papers that the challenge to theresa may's leadership is going to come to the fore again. under conservative party rules there needs to be 48 letters sent in by conservative mps to say they have no confidence, and that would trigger a leadership contest. and apparently in the last sort of 24 hours, it is getting very close to that 48 number again. so this chequers deal has been so divisive and so much more explosive than anyone expected, and i think theresa may is in seriousjeopardy again. mind you, she was being criticised for not coming down on either side prior to the chequers deal. now people would argue that perhaps she has, and it hasn't on her any favours. one more on donald trump's visit. this is the daily mirror, so i suppose this is coming from a very different point of view. a paper that doesn't support brexit,
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and doesn't much care for donald trump. one of the headlines, the eagle has landed, tells you their position on trump and highlights the fa ct position on trump and highlights the fact that there will be protests going on. already, tonight in central london at the us ambassador's residents in regents park, they are threatening very noisy demo, they want to keep them awake all night if they possibly can. massive demonstrations tomorrow, and as we pointed out earlier, one of the pages of the ft featured young people going out there, which wouldn't surprise you, but we were taken by the numbers of them. yes, the age of some of the processes, they look about 15 or 16 years old. so it really is cutting across the demographic. about 70,000 people are supposed to march tomorrow in london. which president trump says is fine. that is what people do, i won't see them anyway. and of course we will have the inflata ble and of course we will have the inflatable trump as well. the blimp of donald trump as a baby. and that
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is another issue with sadiq khan, because sadiq khan okayed that. we are back to brexit and philip hammond and the city of london and what might be going on there. today the government released its white paper on brexit, which is... it has fleshed out in maud detail some of the chequers proposals —— more detail. firstly, it didn't go very well today for the new brexit secretary, dominic raab. he was trying to deliver the statement, labour mps trying to deliver the statement, labourmps and trying to deliver the statement, labour mps and conservative mps had not been allowed to see the paper even though journalists had. com plete even though journalists had. complete farce, that never happens! and the speaker actually stopped proceedings for five minutes so that mps could go away, read the paper and asked more informed questions but you had scenes were mps were throwing the white paper around the house so that they could quickly scurry through it. 98 pages of it.
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if you had that chapter and you were not ready, they had ten minutes to go through 98 pages and challenge it, it was ludicrous. it wasn't a good day for democracy, i didn't think. so philip hammond, the chancellor, he is trying to say to the city, don't worry about this deal. don't worry about chequers, actually, this is going to help the city to thrive. but one of the main concerns is that the deal that has been proposed would actually create quite a big risk to insurance companies. because of the way they are regulated. yes, and people think there is going to be a level of eu regulation. it says here eurosceptic mps are critical of what is proposed, that it would leave britain in the eu's regulatory orbit. but then you have a senior banker saying it is a pragmatic idea. so the cities seem relatively split and hammond is trying his
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best. a quick word about gareth southgate. on the front of the times he rejects the idea of england as heroes. i think that is a slightly misleading headline, ifi heroes. i think that is a slightly misleading headline, if i may say so. misleading headline, if i may say so. a paper for which misleading headline, if i may say so. a paperfor which i have huge respect, of course. what he is actually saying is i don't want a huge celebration for them as has been suggested. mrs may suggested a reception, others suggested a great big coach tour. open top buses, none of that. and he says that is wrong. i completely agree with him, actually. i think the team did brilliantly, it's fantastic we got to the semifinals, but we didn't win. if we had one, fine. we could even come forth, we will find out on saturday night. so inappropriate, in my view. sorry to be such a killjoy. iagree, we my view. sorry to be such a killjoy. i agree, we have to think about these young players and we want them to do well in the future. we don't wa nt to do well in the future. we don't want their heads to be turned, we wa nt want their heads to be turned, we want them to stay calm, cool and collected. on their £200,000 a week. yes, exactly!
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that's it for the papers tonight. don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you seven days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers. and if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you, kate and john. next, it is meet the author. tommy orange has written an unusual american novel. unusual because, for most of his readers, it will be their firstjourney into native american life, to the sound of a dozen voices of the characters who are bound for the big powwow and who each tell their own story about how their way of life has become urbanized, about the anger that's always simmering underneath, because many of them have become outcasts in their own country. about the tragicomic scene at the powwow itself, when they put on the feather headdresses and do traditional dances. the novel, there there,
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is a funny and sad picture of contemporary american life from a startling and original point of view. welcome. did you think consciously when the book was taking shape, that you were talking to many of your readers about something of which they would know very little? i actually wrote more for other native people. i was in a native writing community, the school that i teach at is the institute of american indian arts in santa fe, new mexico. and even though some of the information, some of the native audience knows, i wanted to write in a compelling way that would be interesting even to people who already knew
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the information, so i really tried to hone specifically the prologue and the interlude, so even if that audience already knew the information, i wanted it to be compelling and to feel new. well, you mentioned the prologue and i think those who are not familiar with the story of the native americans experience or at least familiar with it only in the broadest terms, outside the united states, for example, will find it very raw and fierce. i mean, it is a terribly sad story. yeah, i mean, it was surprising to me because i did research myself. you don'tjust come into being native with knowledge and the schools definitely don't teach, if anything they teach a candy coated version meant to make it seem more like a heroic adventure across an empty frontier. so, in the research i was doing, i wasn't surprised to find a lot of facts that were very easy to look up, if you care. and so, i also, you know, i wanted
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to make all the information, notjust preachy, this was a sad and bad and you all should feel bad. i wanted to make it something that was readable. well, it's a novel. it's a story about a dozen people who are heading for this great powwow. now, how would you describe the great powwow itself? how would you, to an outsider, what would you say it meant? so, i chose the powwow as the setting for the ending because, so, the urban indian experience is what i talk about. this is native people that were born and raised in the city, so a powwow and an urban indian have a lot of parallels. urban indian people tend to be intertribal, because you have a lot of people coming from reservations in the 50s and 60s on relocation and a lot of different tribes coming together into one place, so you had intermarriage and people that ended up two or three tribes, so powwows are a whole bunch of tribes coming together, all celebrating sort of one culture in a sense. there is a sort of pan indianism there, that certain tribes, they liked to keep their particular tribal essence intact and are sort of against pan indianism. but there's something beautiful
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about everybody coming together and celebrating a culture of native american people and what all our sameness is instead of our differences. to people of your generation, how important do you think the preservation of the culture and some of the traditions is? it varies. there is a lot of young people, their lives are very similar to any other person in america or anywhere else. and they say that is gone, it's passed. they might not even have a position on it, they are just into their phones, liking or not liking school and it does not necessarily occur to everybody to think about responsibility and connection to cultural heritage. sometimes it's a privilege to even have the time to notjust be surviving and to be, sometimes the day—to—day grind does not allow for it. the stories in the book and we hear
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voices telling the story, their approach to the powwow, are very funny in many places but they are also poignant and sad because what you're talking about here is the destructive effect, really, of contemporary life on individuals and families, aren't you? yeah, and i wanted to, i wanted to make it real, this effect, this echo, from centuries of at first massacre and genocide, and then genocidal policies and how affect those people living today, because sometimes you get the sense that people are well like that happened long ago, forget about it, get over it, and living in the community and knowing a lot of people in the community, there are ways that those things play out in individual lives today. one of the themes that plays out in the book is of course the extent of which putting on the feather headdresses and doing traditional dances is a proper honouring of tradition and respectful, or the extent of which it's become something for tourists,
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to make money, and that is one of the tensions that you are really exploring. it's at the heart of the book and it's funny but it's sad. and something about powwows that i've noticed, if you don't know powwow culture, some people think it's a show to be put on for outside but it's actually, when you go to a powwow, it mostly native people and it's actually a dance competition to win money, so people tour the whole country, call it the powwow trail, they try to win dances and they will win the drum competitions and singing competitions, you sell your food and you sell your jewellery. like rodeo or something. it's that kind of thing. it's very much an internal celebration as opposed to a show, putting on a show for outsiders. would you describe it as an angry book? yeah. i think there's a palpable anger and a lot of people who have been oppressed for many years continue to be, and for native
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people specifically, because we are a small percentage of people in the united states and that is for a very specific reason. and so it is hard to find voice and it is hard to hear your own voice, see your own image, and so when you suppress something like that, and you don't feel like the story has been told correctly, you get mad. when you're writing the book, and i would be interested to know how the scheme of it took shape, did you intend it to be polemical and angry? i sense in the book that you don't want to sound as if you are preaching. on the other hand, you cannot help saying this matters. i neither intended it to be angry nor funny and have been surprised when people react in those ways. i just wrote it as true as i could and tried to pay attention to the craft level and sentence level as best as i could write sentences. you were trying to get in the heads
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of the characters whose voices you are telling the story through. correct. so i was not surprised to hear that it was angry sounding. i have that in me and i know it is in my community. i was a little more surprised by it being funny for people. but i think it's good to mix sadness and humour. i think that's a really important mix. well, and they are pretty close together, sometimes, aren't they? yeah, they are. if the world is mad, all you can do is laugh at it. yeah. native people have a long history of making tragedy into comedy. there were relatively few writers from the native american community who are known by outsiders. there are some, but few in number. do you think there could be more? i would hope that the success of my book would lead to publishers being more open to publishing other native authors. that would be the most amazing thing to happen from my book because, the problem has been that we have had one image, one monolithic image
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and so i am certainly not trying to just bring in another monolith and say this is the voice. i think we need a dynamic range of voices and that is part of why i chose 12 characters. when you had finished the book, and you had said what you wanted to say in there there, what had it achieved for you? forget about the reader. for you in writing this down and telling the story. i think, and i touch on this in the book throughout, i think there is something powerful and almost mysteriously powerful in telling the story itself and what the telling of the story can do and i would like to keep its mystery. i don't want to explore it too much. i know what it did for me. it was a powerful experience to get involved with the novel and finish it and it was tough, and i am proud of it. i don't know exactly what it's done or what it's doing in the world but i am happy for what what is happening.
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tommy orange, author of there there. thank you very much. thank you. and since this is the last meet the author for the time being, thank you to all of you, too. goodbye. hello there. many of us saw another fine, warm and largely sunny day but there were heavy showers around, mainly across parts of north—west england into wales, and south—west england into wales, and south—west england with localised flooding in some locations. but they were pretty isolated. they will linger on this evening, certainly into the first part of the night, across these western areas that i mentioned. most places will be dry by the end of the night and quite warm to start friday morning. variable cloud around, also some sunny spells but the sun will get going when that cloud burns away and
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it will be followed by fine and dry weather for many but showers developing into the afternoon. these could be more potent than what we saw today. again, forming a line across parts of western scotland into north—west england, down the spine of wales and this time may be further east into the midlands and perhaps into south and southern parts of england. if you get one, there could be really torrential with the risk of localised flooding. good news for some gardeners and growers but not for others, as they will be hit and miss, and other warm day. on saturday, an area of low pressure anchored to the north—west of the uk, feeding in more cloud and breeze to western scotland, northern ireland island without breaks of rain but more isolated showers in the south but generally dry and fine and sunny, the high twenties. this is the low pressure i was talking about, the remnants of hurricane chris towards iceland, bringing in cloud and breeze to the north—west
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corner but drawing up warm air from the near continent with the deep oranges developing across mainly england and wales. warm air in eastern scotland. western scotland and northern ireland, fairly cloudy, breezy with showers around but england and wales, dry, sunny and warm. you can see the orange colours extending north into eastern scotland. for many, the mid—to—high teens ease in the south—east of england, and around london, may a high of 31 or 32 celsius —— —— teens in the east. into next week, warm start but gradually those temperatures will begin to fall away as the week wears on and we will start to get more of an atlantic influence with the increasing chance of showers. good news for gardeners and growers. good night. welcome to newsday on the bbc. i'm
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sharanjit leyl in london. the headlines: pomp and circumstance for the us president's visit to britain. protests lie ahead, but mr trump says he's not too bothered. protests, there might be proteas. i believe the people in the uk, scotland, ireland, ithink believe the people in the uk, scotland, ireland, i think there's people like me —— protests. injapan, fears of disease and more than 200 killed in the worst flooding in nearly 40 years. i'm rico hizon in singapore. the new research that says bad sleep could be linked to brain disease. and serena williams makes it through to the wimbledon final —
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