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this is bbc world news. the headlines: president trump has warned that the british prime minister's plan for close ties with the eu, after brexit will "probably kill" any trade deal between britain and the us. protests have already started, and more are expected over the next couple of days. mr trump said he believes british people "like him a lot." at least 200 people are now reported to have been killed in the worst flooding to affect japan in nearly a0 years. torrential rains have triggered landslides and floods in central and western areas, with more than eight million people ordered to leave their homes. a lawyer for the adult film actress, stormy daniels, says she's been arrested at a strip club, in what he's described as a setup. the 39—year—old is involved in a court battle with donald trump over an alleged sexual encounter, which he denies. now on bbc news — thursday in parliament. hello and welcome to the programme.
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coming up, the government reveals its long—awaited brexit policy document, but things don't go smoothly. i will therefore suspend the sitting of the house for five minutes. and instead of the new brexit secretary, we got this. also on the programme, mps aren't happy about donald trump's visit. does she want to hold his hand again? is that what it's all about? you're making a rod for your own back. and the heartbreaking stories of unmarried women forced to give up their babies for adoption. our past, where women were blamed and robbed of their power, is finally the past. but first, thursday
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had been long—awaited. it was the day the government was revealing its brexit policy document, the white paper explaining the all—important agreement reached by the cabinet last friday and giving details of the uk's future trading relationship with the eu. the process up to this point hadn't been particularly smooth. the cabinet agreement reached at chequers had begun to unravel when david davis and borisjohnson resigned on monday. as the new brexit secretary got to his feet, he was angrily heckled by mps. they hadn't got copies of the white paper. just for clarity, it's already available on the website for anyone that wishes to procure it it that way... order, order. "it's a disgrace" mps shouted, and boxes of the white paper were ferried into the chamber and hurriedly distributed. it would be very unseemly, discourteous to him and to members of the house, for his statement to be delivered while copies are being distributed.
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i will therefore suspend the sitting of the house for five minutes. it is most regrettable that this situation has arisen. for five minutes this is all the viewers got to see, as mps frantically read their white papers. suspension over, dominic raab resumed his speech, but many mps were paying scant attention, glued to their newly—acquired papers. but the brexit secretary didn't get an easy ride. i'm confident that a deal is within reach, given the success of the prime minister and her negotiating team so far. laughter. most issues under the withdrawal agreement have by now been resolved. this is our vision for a bold, ambitious and innovative new partnership with the eu. principled and practical, faithful to the referendum, it delivers a deal that is good for the uk and good for our eu friends, and i commend this statement and the white paper to the house. the shadow brexit secretary warmly
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welcomed his opposite number to his new job, but there the niceties ended. can i gently say this? he's not got off to a very good start. the utter shambles of the last 20 minutes that led to the suspension of the house during a statement is clear evidence, mr speaker, of why the government is in such a mess. just when it seemed this statement couldn't get any stranger... the white paper sets out proposals for a facilitated customs arrangement. mr speaker... order. laughter. the hilarity was caused by the government chief whip, who was kneeling in front of the brexit secretaryjust on the left of the shot, having a whispered conversation. conversations regularly take place between members of prospective benches, i'm not complaining about that, i simply thought it right that the conversation should be concluded and the interrogation could then continue, because that would seem to be
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a courteous way in which to proceed. sir keirstarmer. thank you, mr speaker. i didn't say anything because i assumed the secretary of state was being briefed on the contents of the white paper. laughter. what on earth is happening in this place? not only did opposition parties get copies of the white paper appallingly late, it is customary for party spokespeople to receive sighted statements before ministers rise to their feet, not during as happened here. this government's contemptuous treatment of this parliament is once again laid bare for all to see. i hope today has shown that the more the government tries to use the powers of the executive to skirt round the side of parliament, the less likely they are to achieve an agreement in this house that can eventually be sold to the european union. i urge them to work with all members of this house to try and get a better deal, because otherwise will be falling out of the eu without a deal and that would harm our security. a senior conservative concentrated
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on the issue of freedom of movement. will the secretary of state give an absolute assurance that any preferential treatment given to eu migrants will not be part of a withdrawal agreement, but will be entirely in the hands of this parliament post—brexit? this is a vital point, because the people voted for brexit because they wanted to control migration and they don't want to be sold down the river on this point as the negotiations proceed. well, i thank my honourable friend. i can give him reassurance it will not be part of the withdrawal agreement process or the future deep and special relationship, and in the same way that we approach global free trade with partners from latin america to asia, when you're looking at liberalisation of trade in goods for example through reduction of tariffs, or services, you can also ensure you've got sensible arrangements on visas. a remain—supporting conservative was worried about the negotiations ending in failure.
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he says he's going to step up planning for a no deal scenario. will he also commit to publishing the consequences of no deal, so that individuals, communities and the economy, so we can all assess what its impact will be? we've got some tough choices to make, and what you see in the white paper is reconciling the challenge of making sure we leave the customs union for all the benefits and opportunities that are there to be grasped, while making sure we minimise any potential disruption to trade. i will certainly be saying more to the house on our no deal planning in due course. dominic raab. president trump's trip to the uk has involved a major policing operation, with officers drafted in from across england and wales to help manage demonstrations in london over the weekend. mps have raised concerns that forces are being overstretched and offices housed in cramped temporary accommodation. president trump, meanwhile, speaking at a nato news conference in brussels, was asked about the protests. he said "i think it's fine, i think they like me a lot in the uk". back in the commons,
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feelings about mr trump's trip were running high. one mp declared he loved americans, another called the president a fascist. the visit to the uk of any president of the usa is of course a significant and historic event. i'd like to reassure the house the police have developed robust plans to ensure the safety and security of the visit. the three main forces involved are the metropolitan police service, thames valley police and essex. nearly all forces in england and wales are providing officers and resources to assist with the policing plans. this weekend, police forces are preparing for one of the biggest mobilisations in their history. every force in the country is sending officers to protect the president and to safeguard the democratic right to protest, which i hope will be fully respected by the metropolitan police tomorrow. west yorkshire, for example, is sending 296 officers, whilst themselves contending with an edl march in their own area. she wondered whether the policing
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system could cope with the additional demands. it has also emerged overnight that officers being accommodated in essex are sleeping on cots in squash courts. 100 female officers with four toilets between them likely to be sleeping on mats tonight. 300 male officers with five toilets between them, no access to power and no hot running water. the ministers said concerns over accommodation had been raised with essex police. she asked about whether there were sufficient police resources to support the security of the visit in an effective way. i've had assurance from the commander in charge of the operation that that is the case. in fact, the number of police officers required for this operation has fallen significantly in the last two weeks. rather than the prime minister and the secretary of state
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for scotland rolling out the red carpet, they should be focusing on challenging president trump on his abysmal record on human rights, women and minorities. the scottish government's cabinet secretary forjustice is making commendable efforts since his appointment to prepare for this business, but getting any cooperation from the uk government has been like pulling teeth. i'm very proud to declare that i love america, my wife is american, my son was born in america, my daughter's got a us passport and i lived and worked in america for more than ten years. i love america, americans, sometimes in this place i feel like i'm almost the only one. so, does the minister agree... does the minister agree that the visit of a us president is symbolic of our overall relationship with our most important ally? what on earth is the government playing at, inviting this fascist like trump to come to britain and cause all this mayhem that we've already heard from these benches,
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police from every part of the british isles? doesn't he realise the government and the prime minister in particular, does she want to hold his hand again? because that's what it's all about. you're making a rod for your own back. the honourable gentleman is entitled to his own robust views, but the fact of the matter is that president trump is the democratically elected leader of the united states of america, which is historically and currently our most important ally. it's a hugely important relationship in terms of the security and prosperity of his constituency and the constituencies of every mp in house, and we should make him welcome. as one of the many people in this house who does love america, could the minister explain however why so much money, £5 million in scotland, is being spent to protect the president at a time when we are so badly stretched, and, in effect, he's going to play golf on his own golf course?
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it is a lot of money, resources are tight, but he is the president of the united states here on an official visit and it is our responsibility to make sure that the appropriate security arrangements are in place, and that's what we are doing. nick hurd. mps have been told that the so—called "hostile environment" immigration policies will remain suspended until the government is confident there will be no further impact on the windrush generation. the windrush scandal was uncovered earlier this year when it emerged that some migrants from commonwealth countries who were encouraged to settle in the uk from the late 1940s till 1973 were being wrongly categorised as illegal immigrants. the minister explained what was happening. we have introduced a temporary pause in the proactive sharing of home office data with other
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organisations, including banks and building societies, for the purpose of controlling access to services. data on persons over 30 has been excluded from sharing to ensure members of the windrush generation are not inadvertently affected. this is a temporary measure. we are also providing additional support to landlords, employers and public service providers through the home office checking service to ensure we not impacting windrush generation. the mp who had raised the matter said the home secretary had promised a system that treated people with respect. is it respectful to slip out this information during what was yesterday a world cup spectacle? is it respectful for her department still to not be able to tell us how many people have been detained? is it respectful to have said nothing about whether she is going to allow for a proper appeals system? why not scrap this hostile environment that is bringing this
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country into disrepute? data—sharing cannot be recommenced without my ministerial consent and that certainly is not something that will begin again until we are confident that we will not be impacting further members of the windrush generation. the shadow home secretary argued some people had suffered financially. ministers do not understand that very many of those people have got into considerable debt because they didn't get the benefits they were entitled to, they found themselves paying for medical treatment, and if you are serious, at the very least in helping the windrush generation, i would urge the government to look again at setting up a hardship fund. she also pressed the minister over how many people had been
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detained or deported. current indications are that 63 people have been removed, but those figures are of course still subject to the independent oversight which we are putting in place in due course, and that will of course be properly independent. as i said in my answer to the right honourable memberfor tottenham, we're not going to come forward with numbers of people who have been detained until we are confident through the manual review of all cases that we have the right numbers. she will be aware that the windrush scandal is exactly that, it was a scandal. and at the home affairs select committee we have questioned several ministers on why this was allowed to occur without it being highlighted by the home office within their internal systems. there was a trend happening which seemed to go unnoticed by the home office and the officials within it. so can she update the house on what is being done to ensure that future trends are noted far earlier rather than having to be established through media requests, etc? my right honourable friend the home secretary has been very
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clear that there will and indeed is a cultural change at the home office. we have to make sure that we are better at identifying situations like this and responding with the appropriate level of speed. the speaker is descended from romanian jews. the former foreign secretary's great—grandfather was turkish. the agas, the jardines, the poulters, the villiers all came over with the normans, the dubois and the corbyns came over with the huguenots, and the gillans, the bryants, the brennans, the keegans, the donnellans and many others are, frankly, in the end, irish. isn't the truth of the matter that there's not a single member of this house that has got pure, pure, pure british blood, and we should rejoice in the fact that we're all the children of immigrants? well, i thank the right honourable gentleman for that. i'm sure he was desperately trying to work out where noakes came from...
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i don't know, it's my ex—husband's name. laughter it's really important... it is really important that we acknowledge, celebrate, recognise the contribution that immigrants have made to our country, to our community, to our society. and i do that. caroline noakes. you are watching thursday in parliament with me, mandy baker. if you want to catch up with all the news from westminster on the go, don't forget our sister programme, today in parliament, is available as a download via the bbc radio four website. now, the prime minister has been urged to apologise on behalf of the nation to the hundreds of thousands of women who were pressured into giving up their babies for adoption in the 1950s, ‘60s and ‘70s. it estimated that more than half a million children were given up for adoption at a time when unmarried mothers were often rejected by their families and ostracised by society. one labour mp, alison mcgovern, spoke of the experience of the former labour health minister ann keane, who herself had been a victim when she became pregnant as a teenager. ann became unexpectedly pregnant
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in 1966 when an older man who she worked with forced himself upon her. her family were horrified and decisions were taken that she would move away where she would meet with a local moral welfare worker, and that's what social workers used to be called. and it was just assumed that the baby would be adopted. and this moral welfare worker told ann that the baby would cause herfamily hardship. she was told that if she loved the baby she would give it away. she was told it was for the best. like ann keane, she said many of the women gave birth in the nhs. ann — who, as i said, later herself became a nurse — told me that in hospital she realised she was absolutely powerless. after the birth, mothers were often told, "your baby's going to be adopted, don't get too attached." contact with the baby was controlled and restricted in many cases i have read about. and even by the standards
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of the time, they were treated very differently to other women giving birth. and these women were made to feel ashamed of their bodies, of their pregnancies. and it's that culture of shame that was perpetrated by officialdom in one guise or another. now, it's a complex history, madame deputy speaker, but i for one would like to know how it happened. she called on theresa may to say sorry. simply by apologising the prime minister would send a message to anyone unexpectedly pregnant today that they ought to expect help and support and never approbation. and most of all she would send a message to every woman in this country that our past, where women were blamed and robbed of their power, is finally the past. she received support from a labour colleague.
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i would say to the minister that the fact now that both ireland and australia have been able to do so and haven't simply apologised, they have held thorough and in—depth investigations as well, these two factors show that it is possible to achieve some justice, delayed justice at that, for people who have been caught up in this scandal. the education minister said no one could fail to be moved. i would like to, madame deputy speaker, add my voice and to express my deepest sympathy to all those affected. these women were let down — in many cases, by their families who would not support them, but also by professionals and organisations in the sector who allowed society's moral attitudes at the time towards unmarried mothers to influence their practice. he said lessons had been learnt but he didn't think a new public
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enquiry would uncover new facts. now, the cost of the renewal and refurbishment of the palace of westminster still hasn't been agreed. estimates put the figure between 3.5 and £5.6 billion. an snp mp said the anticipated cost of the project was damaging public confidence in politicians. is there not still time to decide to move out of london to a purpose—built modern parliament, with sensible things like electronic voting, and if not is there at least a team looking at how to cut the costs of this nonsense? i thank her for her question. i'm sure she will be aware that the possibility of moving out of london has been considered and the joint commission set up through both houses looked at that matter and dismissed that
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as a proposal. in terms of the cost of the project, and of course the sponsor body and the delivery authority will have responsibility for making sure that the costs are kept to a minimum, whilst of course delivering a prestigious project on a world heritage building. isn't that exactly the point? this is a world heritage building and if it was in the ownership of any individual in the state would require them to keep it up to a certain standard, and that is exactly what we've got to do as the owners of this building as well. of course we have and i'm sure that members on all sides of the house will want to ensure that the sponsor body and the delivery authority between them deliver exactly the sort of project the right honourable gentleman has set out. tom brake. now, whose business is it if men choose to wear pink dresses and make up, or women climb trees and have hairy armpits? that was the thought—provoking view of lord lucas, speaking in a debate about the government's lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender action plan. when the telegraph said a couple
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of days ago in reference to the thai cave rescues that the rescuers were demonstrating typical male virtues like courage... phooey! i mean, male virtue — courage? none of us, here at least, has ever given birth. does that not take courage? it is a ridiculous idea that courage is a male virtue. no, these are human virtues. lord lucas said people should not be defined by gender. over the centuries, labelling people as men and women has led, particularly for women, to serious crippling oppression. to limitation in their lives. to there being a whole list of things that women are not supposed to because they are women. there is no good reason for it. who should care if men choose to wear pink dresses and make up, or women climb trees and have hairy armpits? why should any of us have... try to make people behave in ways that they choose not to, when we are quite happy to let other
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people behave in exactly those ways merely because we assign them to a different gender? it is time that we took advantage of this liberalisation which the government is looking at to free up the world for all of us. not that i expect things to change fast. on the odd hot day i might choose to wear a dress. my goodness! a suit and tie in this place doesn't go very well. and besides, apart from the odd pink tie, we're not really allowed to be colourful these days. i'm can to show off my... but it's. .. the restrictions that we are under, that we put ourselves under because of gender, are entirely unreasonable,
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and i absolutely congratulate the government in opening the challenge to that. and i hope that is something they will allow us all to take advantage of. lord lucas. back in the commons there were passionate calls for the government to improve air quality. one mp argued that part of the answer was to plant more trees. will she gave the secretary of state a good thump in that direction of taking trees seriously? trees are closely related to the quality of air that we breathe in our country, and this government only plans to sort clean air out by 2040. can't we have more trees like the northern forest initiative, the white rose initiative? but will she get that man next to him to do something and do something now? the minister explained that michael gove, sitting next to her on the front bench, was very keen on trees. my right honourable friend the secretary
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of state is exceptionally passionate about trees. and i think he will find in terms of constituency he has the highest concentration of trees in the country. and more was being done. i was at the planting of the first lowther park estate which was 230,000 trees due to be planted. there is more happening, up in doddingston moor, and that is why we continue to work through things like the woodland creation grant and the creation unit in order to get more parts of the country planting quickly. but she didn't make any promises about thumping michael gove. and that's all we've got time for. i'll be back at the same time tomorrow for a round—up of the whole week. but until then, from me, mandy baker, goodbye. hello there.
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it's hotting up as we head on into the weekend, particularly across central, southern parts of the country. but there will be a few heavy showers and maybe thunderstorms in the forecast for the next couple of days. thursday was a fine day for many of us, some lovely sunsets around, but it wasn't dry everywhere. we did see some heavy showers across western england and into parts of wales, even some reports of local flooding in just one or two places. now, these showers are likely to linger on to the first part of friday across some western areas. a bit of cloud tending to roll back in across eastern areas, but for most, it's going to be a dry and quite a warm start to friday, with towns and city values not falling any lower than 10—15 degrees. so friday we start on a largely dry note. variable amounts of morning cloud, that should burn away, and we should see quite a good deal of sunshine around. but showers will develop once again, and we're thinking they could be a bit heavier, a bit more potent on friday afternoon, in a line again across some western parts of scotland, western parts of england, central, eastern wales, and also this time the midlands, in towards southern parts of england. so if you catch one, it could be really torrential, with the risk of some localised flooding. but again, hit—and—miss,
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some areas staying dry altogether, and it's going to be quite warm, top temperatures 26, maybe 27 celsius. this is the picture into saturday, then. we've got more cloud, more of a breeze pushing into northern ireland, northern and western parts of scotland, maybe some outbreaks of rain here too. but the further south and east that you are, generally drier, with more in the way of sunshine. just an isolated shower, but warmer — 28 or 29 degrees, potentially, across the south—east. the reason for the divide is this area of low pressure anchored to the north—west of the uk will bring more of a breeze and outbreaks of rain to the north—west of the country. but further south—east, closer to an area of high pressure over the near continent, we'll be swooping up that warmth, particularly in towards england and wales. could see warmth reaching eastern scotland, as well, but generally it's going to be cloudier for the west of scotland and into northern ireland, the odd spot of rain. england and wales, a hot and a sunny day. you can see those deep orange colours pushing away even a little bit further northwards.
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so a hot afternoon, actually, mid—to—high 20s celsius for many, with some areas in the south—east seeing 30 or 31 celsius. so for the weekend, it's looking hot, certainly across england and wales, parts of eastern scotland. a few showers around, mainly on saturday, but always a bit cooler and damp and breezy in the north—west, with the odd spot of rain. as we head on in towards next week, though, we start off on a hot note. but then temperatures, as the week wears on, begin to fall and return to more of a seasonal average. welcome to bbc news — broadcasting to viewers in north america and around the globe. my name is nkem ifejika. our top stories: pomp and pageantry, but not a full state visit. president trump gets the red carpet treatrmet on his first official trip to the uk — including a black tie dinner hosted by theresa may. but it's straight down to business and donald trump warns the british pm her brexit plans make a trade deal with america less likely. as protestors follow his tour, demonstrators accuse the us
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president of being a racist and a mysoginist, but mr trump said he wasn't too bothered. protests, there might be protests. but i believe the people in the uk, scotland, ireland, i think that those people, they like me a lot. in other news — fears of disease and more than 200 killed

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