in 1990. the last since then when in 1990. the last time was 20 years ago. it was a good game, but spoiled by var and a dubious penalty decision, but my favourite picture is that word emmanuel macron celebrated. could you imagine theresa may celebrated that the church of england had won? i'mjust so that the church of england had won? i'm just so pleased the monies pro eu. everybody else isjust sitting there. i think it is fantastic. vive la france! a senior figure in croatian football tweeted a list of all the multiracial players in the france team with the flag of the countries that their ancestors come from, and said, which country are we playing? they found out today they are playing france, united france, and the multiracial france. sur england are back home. they have

made the decision not to have an open top kind of parade through the city. juszczyk that is the right decision? i think it is a very good decision, because they had a great tournament and gareth southgate has done wonderful things with this team, and they've got a great future, but let's not act like they've won anything yet. they finished fourth, probably about par where they should have been, and thatis where they should have been, and that is not worth an open top bus parade, but anything that unites the country might well be worth... and we also have a multiracial team. both of you have now, thank you very much. that's it for this hour. tony and yasmin will be back at 11.30 for another look at the papers. next on bbc news it's time for meet the author. tommy orange has written an unusual american novel. unusual because, for most of his readers, it will be their firstjourney into native american life, to the sound of a dozen voices

of the characters who are bound for the big powwow and who each tell their own story about how their way of life has become urbanized, about the anger that's always simmering underneath, because many of them have become outcasts in their own country. about the tragicomic scene at the powwow itself, when they put on the feather headdresses and do traditional dances. the novel, there there, is a funny and sad picture of contemporary american life from a startling and original point of view. welcome. did you think consciously when the book was taking shape, that you were talking to many of your readers about something of which they would know very little? i actually wrote more for other native people.

i was in a native writing community, the school that i teach at is the institute of american indian arts in santa fe, new mexico. and even though some of the information, some of the native audience knows, i wanted to write in a compelling way that would be interesting even to people who already knew the information, so i really tried to hone specifically the prologue and the interlude, so even if that audience already knew the information, i wanted it to be compelling and to feel new. well, you mentioned the prologue and i think those who are not familiar with the story of the native americans experience or at least familiar with it only in the broadest terms, outside the united states, for example, will find it very raw and fierce. i mean, it is a terribly sad story. yeah, i mean, it was surprising to me because i did research myself. you don'tjust come into being native with knowledge

and the schools definitely don't teach, if anything they teach a candy coated version meant to make it seem more like a heroic adventure across an empty frontier. so, in the research i was doing, i wasn't surprised to find a lot of facts that were very easy to look up, if you care. and so, i also, you know, i wanted to make all the information, notjust preachy, this was a sad and bad and you all should feel bad. i wanted to make it something that was readable. well, it's a novel. it's a story about a dozen people who are heading for this great powwow. now, how would you describe the great powwow itself? how would you, to an outsider, what would you say it meant? so, i chose the powwow as the setting for the ending because, so, the urban indian experience is what i talk about.

this is native people that were born and raised in the city, so a powwow and an urban indian have a lot of parallels. urban indian people tend to be intertribal, because you have a lot of people coming from reservations in the ‘50s and ‘605 on relocation and a lot of different tribes coming together into one place, so you had intermarriage and people that ended up two or three tribes, so powwows are a whole bunch of tribes coming together, all celebrating sort of one culture in a sense. there is a sort of pan indianism there, that certain tribes, they liked to keep their particular tribal essence intact and are sort of against pan indianism. but there's something beautiful about everybody coming together and celebrating a culture of native american people and what all our sameness is instead of our differences. to people of your generation, how important do you think the preservation of the culture and some of the traditions is? it varies. there is a lot of young people, their lives are very similar to any other person in america or anywhere else. and they say that is

gone, it's past. they might not even have a position on it, they are just into their phones, liking or not liking school and it does not necessarily occur to everybody to think about responsibility and connection to cultural heritage. sometimes it's a privilege to even have the time to notjust be surviving and to be, sometimes the day—to—day grind does not allow for it. the stories in the book and we hear voices telling the story, their approach to the powwow, are very funny in many places but they are also poignant and sad because what you're talking about here is the destructive effect, really, of contemporary life on individuals and families, aren't you? yeah, and i wanted to, i wanted to make it real, this effect, this echo, from centuries of at first massacre and genocide, and then genocidal policies and how affect those people living today, because sometimes you get the sense that people are well like that happened long ago, forget about it, get over it, and living in the community and knowing a lot

of people in the community, there are ways that those things play out in individual lives today. one of the themes that plays out in the book is of course the extent of which putting on the feather headdresses and doing traditional dances is a proper honouring of tradition and respectful, or the extent of which it's become something for tourists, to make money, and that is one of the tensions that you are really exploring. it's at the heart of the book and it's funny but it's sad. and something about powwows that i've noticed, if you don't know powwow culture, some people think it's a show to be put on for outside but it's actually, when you go to a powwow, it mostly native people and it's actually a dance competition to win money, so people tour the whole country, call it the powwow trail, they try to win dances

and they will win the drum competitions and singing competitions, you sell your food and you sell your jewellery. like rodeo or something. it's that kind of thing. it's very much an internal celebration as opposed to a show, putting on a show for outsiders. would you describe it as an angry book? yeah. i think there's a palpable anger and a lot of people who have been oppressed for many years continue to be, and for native people specifically, because we are a small percentage of people in the united states and that is for a very specific reason. and so it is hard to find voice and it is hard to hear your own voice, see your own image, and so when you suppress something like that, and you don't feel like the story has been told correctly, you get mad. when you're writing the book, and i would be interested to know

how the scheme of it took shape, did you intend it to be polemical and angry? i sense in the book that you don't want to sound as if you are preaching. on the other hand, you cannot help saying this matters. i neither intended it to be angry nor funny and have been surprised when people react in those ways. i just wrote it as true as i could and tried to pay attention to the craft level and sentence level as best as i could write sentences. you were trying to get in the heads of the characters whose voices you are telling the story through. correct. so i was not surprised to hear that it was angry sounding. i have that in me and i know it is in my community. i was a little more surprised by it being funny for people. but i think it's good to mix sadness and humour. i think that's a really important mix. well, and they are pretty close together, sometimes, aren't they? yeah, they are.

if the world is mad, all you can do is laugh at it. yeah. native people have a long history of making tragedy into comedy. there were relatively few writers from the native american community who are known by outsiders. there are some, but few in number. do you think there could be more? i would hope that the success of my book would lead to publishers being more open to publishing other native authors. that would be the most amazing thing to happen from my book because, the problem has been that we have had one image, one monolithic image and so i am certainly not trying to just bring in another monolith and say this is the voice. i think we need a dynamic range of voices and that is part of why i chose 12 characters. when you had finished the book, and you had said what you wanted to say in there there, what had it achieved for you? forget about the reader. for you in writing this down and telling the story. i think, and i touch on this in the book throughout, i think there is something powerful

and almost mysteriously powerful in telling the story itself and what the telling of the story can do and i would like to keep its mystery. i don't want to explore it too much. i know what it did for me. it was a powerful experience to get involved with the novel and finish it and it was tough, and i am proud of it. i don't know exactly what it's done or what it's doing in the world but i am happy for what what is happening. tommy orange, author of there there. thank you very much. thank you. and since this is the last meet the author for the time being, thank you to all of you, too. goodbye. it has been another fine, warm to hot day in england and wales.

east and south—eastern parts of scotland in particular have held onto sunny spells and some warmth. but this were the front was change things from any and northern ireland, with rain in places, and in scotland today with the outbreaks of rain gradually putting south—east, the rain clearing away from northern ireland, outbreaks of rain going further east across scotland. reaching just into westernmost parts of england and wales by the end of the night, but the bulk of england is clear. 10—15 degrees. fresher and towards western scotland and northern ireland compared with last night. tomorrow, the rain slowly moving east, pulling away from scotland with sunny spells following. northern ireland, one or two sunny spells into the afternoon, but these showers gradually moving further east will include heavier possibly thundery downpours. you can see from the temperature colours still some heat in east anglia,

near 30 in the hotspots, but behind this weather system, it is feeling cooler and fresher compared with recent days. that weather system continues to take outbreaks of showery rain, further east and south—east as we go through monday night and it's tuesday morning, probably hardly anything at all into southern england, tuesday has sunny start, a few showers here and there, but many places will remain dry, and your temperatures are bit down, but still for many above average for the time of year, noticeably cooler and fresher across southern parts after the heat of the weekend. then a fairly indistinct weather situation, the pressure not as high as it has been but not particularly low, and that means temperatures are not going to be as high as they have been, still pleasantly warm in the sun, and a mixture of cloud and sunshine but also a scattering of showers. so this is how your week is shaping up. it will turn cooler and fresher but not cold, temperatures still above average,

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