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hello it's tuesday, it's 9 o'clock, i'm chloe tilley, welcome to the programme. this programme has exclusively learned that women in england are resorting to illegally buying the abortion pill over the internet because they cannot get to clinics to take it. the practice of making women take the pill at either a hospital or clinic, before travelling home, has even led to some aborting on public transport. it was so painful and so frightening, that to scream would be to completely give into it. scotland and wales have both recently changed the law to allow women to take the pill at home so why is england failing to do the same? sexual exploitation and abuse by aid workers has been rife across the sector for years, but agencies and charities have failed to fully confront or address the problem, a report by mps says, accusing them of "complacency verging on complicity". we will be talking to the author of the damning report.
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would you be upset if your daily commute included an advert for a holiday offering roasting temperatures which is actually for a cremation, or what looks like a young bride choosing a wedding dress, but actually picking out a coffin for her big day? these adverts were blocked from appearing in tube stations on grounds of bad taste. but are they exactly what we need to get people saving up for funerals? and just why do we still find it so difficult to talk about death? hello. welcome to the programme, i'm chloe tilley. we're live until 11 this tuesday morning. we are also going to be talking to the italian author who has used her experience of losing her sight as a
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child to write a beautiful work of fiction for youngsters that is causing quite a buzz for publishers around the world. you can get in touch with all of the stories we're talking about this morning. use the hashtag #victorialive. if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you — and maybe want to take part in the programme — please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you ll be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today... women in england are illegally buying the abortion pill over the internet because they can't get to clinics to take it. in england, women must take the pill at a hospital or clinic, before travelling home for the abortion process to begin. but the effects can start within 30 minutes. for one woman we spoke to it was in the taxi on the way back from the clinic. so, i started to feel really unwell and just extremely nauseous and was kind of getting that feeling in my chest like i might be about to throw up.
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and then i started getting the cramping at the same time. i just didn't want to be sick in the taxi, and i really, really wanted to get home. in between getting out of the taxi and the symptoms really starting in that very physical and uncontrollable sense, that was like a minute. do you think about what could have happened if it had been just five minutes later? i mean, i know what would have happened if it had been five minutes later. if it had been five minutes later, all of those symptoms would have been happening on the floor of the taxi. i would have been sick in the taxi, i would have started bleeding in the taxi, and i would have started losing control of my bowels in the taxi. we will hear more from claudie and the other women who have gone through similar experiences at around 9.15. now to the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the days news. there has been an "abject failure" in the aid sector to deal with sexual abuse, according to mps. a report by the international development committee says there's been a "culture of denial"
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since revelations earlier this year that oxfam workers paid for sex while helping victims of the 2010 earthquake in haiti. the charity has acknowledged it has "further to go" to tackle the issue. our global affairs correspondent, naomi grimley reports. it was in the aftermath of the 2010 haiti earthquake that some of 0xfam's aid workers severely compromised its much—cherished values. they used young prostitutes when they were supposed to be helping the local population bounce back from a disaster. the charity did an internal investigation. they dismissed some members of staff and let others quietly resign without properly flagging up what had happened to the authorities or other charities. today, mps said it wasn't an isolated episode. we have reached the conclusion that in the aid sector there has been complacency verging, frankly, on complicity with what has happened. that is because organisations all to
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often have appeared more concerned to protect their own reputation in the sector rather than protecting victims and survivors. mps want the uk to take the lead and create a global register of aid workers to stop sexual predators entering the sector. though they admit it won't be easy to cover everyone. helen evans worked at 0xfam and raised her concerns about sexual abuse. she thinks the register is a good idea. this is about protecting some of the most vulnerable individuals in the world from sexual exploitation and abuse and we have to do everything we possibly can and the public reaction has shown quite how much they want us to do that too. so difficult, yes, but doable. 0xfam says it's now tripled its budget for safeguarding checks but this is a much bigger problem than one charity and mps are in no doubt that after a string of scandals, now is the time for meaningful change. the father of the missing airman
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corrie mckeague says he believes his son will never be found. in a post on facebook martin mckeague says the evidence suggests the 23—year—old's remains are somewhere within the waste disposal system. keith doyle reports these are the last known images of corrie mckeague. he was 23 when he went missing after a night out in bury st edmunds in september 2016. cctv pictures show him walk through the town, but then he disappears. police believe he got into a waste bin. his mobile phone signal was tracked and appeared to follow the path of a bin lorry. a massive search of waste disposal sites took place, but it was called off earlier this year. his father, martin, has now said that his son is no longer missing. in a facebook post, he said police have presented him with compelling evidence that experts concluded beyond any doubt that corrie ended up in the suffolk waste disposal system.
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he was known to sleep in or on bins. he said the area was too toxic and vast to search. since his disappearance, corrie‘s girlfriend gave birth to his daughter. now that the family say they know what happened to their son, a memorial is being planned. keith doyle, bbc news. us intelligence officials have told the washington post that north korea appears to be building new ballistic missiles, despite better relations with the trump administration. the officials, speaking anonymously, told the newspaper that new evidence suggested work was still taking place at a factory near pyongyang that produced the first north korean missiles capable of reaching the united states. president trump has said he is willing to hold talks with iran's leaders without any preconditions and any time they want to discuss how to improve realations. earlier this month, mr trump
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clashed with the iranian president, hassan rouhani. he has never said he wants to work out something meaningful to replace the nuclear agreement —— he has now said that he wants to work out something meaningful. labour's deputy leader tom watson has described a member of the party's ruling body as "a loud mouthed bully" after he was recorded apparently criticising members of the jewish community. in the recording, peter willsman an ally ofjeremy corbyn accuses them of making up claims of anti semitism in the party. it's understood mr willsman has apologised and will not face any further action. joining us from westminster is political guru norman smith. who has decided he will not face any further action? party officials have decided not to proceed with disciplinary charges against him because he has apologised. that has angered many in the labour party, who have compared his treatment with the likes of margaret hodge, who is facing disciplinary charges after she clashed with jeremy disciplinary charges after she
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clashed withjeremy corbyn over the pa rty‘s failure to clashed withjeremy corbyn over the party's failure to adopt in full the new international anti—semitism code. they are also angry, i think, because he spoke out at a meeting of the national executive committee, which is the party's most senior ruling body, and the fact he is a close ally of vista corbyn, which has renewed demands for the labour leader to take a much tougher stance with those of his supporters who it is claimed behind the anti—semitic comments. thank you very much. condom maker durex has recalled some of its products sold in the uk and ireland over fears they could split. ten batches of its non—latex real feel and latex free condoms with expiry dates between december 2020 and february 2021 are not passing "stringent shelf life tests". the company has apologised and offered refunds to customers. dixons carphone says the personal details of 10 million people were hacked last year,
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much higher previously thought. the company has been investigating the hack since it first revealed it in june. it said personal information, names, addresses and email addresses, may have been accessed last year, but not bank details and it found no evidence that fraud has resulted from the breach. more than 500 hikers have been safely brought down from a mountain on the indonesian island of lombok after being stranded by rockfalls caused by an earthquake. the body of one indonesian climber killed by a falling rock on mount rinjani is still to be recovered. officials say a further 15 people have died elsewhere on the island. parents in england need more support to help their children learn basic language skills according to the education secretary. in a speech about social mobility, damian hinds will label the issue a "persistent scandal" and offer more support for parents. department of education figures suggest that by the end of reception class more than a quarter of children lack the communication skills they need. the cast of the film franchise,
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guardians of the galaxy, have signed an open letter in support of their former director. james gunn was sacked ahead of the third instalment of the films when it emerged that he had joked about rape and paedophilia on twitter ten years ago. he has since apologised. it's been the most talked about show of the summer and after eight weeks of couplings, dumpings and drama love island has finally crowned its winning couple. the winners of love island 2018 are... dani and jack! millions of viewers tuned into the dating show to see dani dyer, daughter of eastender actor danny dyer, and jack fincham a pen salesmen from essex win the £50,000 cash prize. if you're a car lover, these pictures might be painful to watch. this bulldozer is crushing over £6 million worth of luxury cars and motorbikes.
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porsches, harley davidsons and lamborghinis were all targeted as part of the crackdown on illegally imported cars to the philippines. the countries president says he hopes it'll be a deterrent to criminals. that's a summary of the latest bbc news, more at 9.30. thank you, i am pleased that he got the memo on dress colour as well, very important. in the next few minutes we will have oui’ in the next few minutes we will have our exclusive report on women who are experiencing problems accessing the abortion pill, which has seen many turning to the internet to buy illegal abortion pills, and others aborting on theirjourney home from the clinics. do get in touch with us throughout the morning, use the hashtag #victorialive. and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.
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chris is at the sports centre. you didn't get the memo about the pink top. let's talk about andy murray, we have been waiting for this come back. how is he looking? he is ranked 832 in the world, so no surprise it started badly. his service was broken twice in the opening set and he lost that inside 40 opening set and he lost that inside a0 minutes, 6—3. then we saw some of his great at the open in washington. —— grit. he eventually beat mackenzie mcdonald. coming back after hip trouble, he had surgery in january and only returned injune. this is nice. who does he play next? he plays britain's number one, kyle edmund. that will be quite a match,
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because who wants to get back to being number one. and geraint thomas is back in the uk after winning the tour de france. what next for him? he'll miss the spanish grand tour, the vuelta a espana. that start in three weeks, and he wa nts that start in three weeks, and he wants some time. the tour of britain started wales on the 2nd of september, which would be great publicity for him, his team and cycling. he has renewed his contract with team sky at the moment, but he is expected to do that in the near future, perhaps another three—year deal. he says the win has given him a taste for big tour wins. we will see him and chris froome baffling xt, i think. see him and chris froome baffling xt, ithink. he see him and chris froome baffling xt, i think. he says they are a great team and why split that up? interestingly, he says there was no problem between him and chris
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froome. 0f problem between him and chris froome. of course, geraint thomas unexpectedly becoming the number one in the team and on the tour. it was anything but awkward. he was a true gentleman about it, really. we get on really well. we have been in the same team for ten or 11 years. it must have been tough for him, going for his fifth tour de france, which is of you see a joint record. he lost a bit of time and it didn't need to be said. it was pretty obvious then that i have the best chance of finishing for the team. he fully accepted that, fully committed. to have someone of his calibre helping me wasjust committed. to have someone of his calibre helping me was just great, obviously. people try to read a lot in to that, about a potential coming together of those two i are not working out, but clearly it did. and boxing, one of the biggest characters in boxing says he is back, i am sure people can guess who we are talking about? they probably can, tyson fury, he does not look
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too good there, but remember he stunned the wladimir klitschko land world titles in 2015. now he says he wa nts to world titles in 2015. now he says he wants to come back. he says he is close to securing a shot at another world title. flash photography coming up. the former world heavyweight made his return to boxing last month. he had an easy victory. he has been out for two yea rs. victory. he has been out for two years. he was suspended a couple of yea rs years. he was suspended a couple of years ago because of medical issues, anti—doping issues. now he is back, he says he wants fight deontay wilder. that is all the sport for 110w. wilder. that is all the sport for now. thank you, we will speak to you later. this programme has been told that women are illegally taking abortion pills they ve bought online women are illegally taking abortion to take them at clinics. in england women must take the pill at either a hospital or clinic, before travelling home to wait for the abortion to take place. but often that it can start to happen before they get there. senior doctors and politicians are urging the health secretary to change the law — to allow women to take the pill at home.
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0ur reporterjean mackenzie has the story. it's a very physical taking over of your body. waves and waves of cramping and pain. sweating, shaking, sickness. these women are describing something we don't often hear about. what it feels like to have an abortion. lying down on the platform was actually me panicking. and abortion laws in england mean some women are going through this in public. there are women being sick in taxis, bleeding on trains and buses. if i hadn't had someone to make me get up, i don't really know what would have happened. the abortion pill is now the most common way for women to terminate a pregnancy early on.
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so this is the first tablet that women take in the clinic, and this is to get the process going. that's followed up 2a—a8 hours later by a second medication. and usually, most women will pass the pregnancy within about four hours. now, the current law in england states that women have to take both sets of tablets within a hospital or a clinic. they've then got to make the journey home, back from the clinic, while they wait for the abortion process to begin. at once you've taken that second tablet, it can start to happen really quickly. hello. i've come to meet claudia, who had an abortion last year. she took a taxi home from the hospital after taking the pill, but within minutes of getting in, the symptoms had started. so, i started to feel really unwell, just extremely nauseous, and was kind of getting that feeling in my chest like i might be about to throw up.
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and then i started getting cramping at the same time. i just didn't want to be sick in the taxi, and ijust really, really wanted to get home. you're very much feeling like something's happening to you which you have no control over. so, when you got into your flat, how quickly did things start to escalate? in between getting out of the taxi and the symptoms really starting in that very physical and uncontrollable sense, that was like a minute. i didn't quite make it to the toilet and i started kind of retching and being really unwell on the bathroom floor. and you kind of lose control of your bowel movements. do you think about what could have happened if you had just been five minutes later? i mean, i know what would have happened if i had been five minutes later. if it had been five minutes later, all of those symptoms would have been happening on the floor of the taxi. i would have been sick in the taxi,
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i would have started bleeding in the taxi, and i would have started losing control of my bowels in the taxi. i lived 15 minutes away from a hospital. not every woman lives 15 minutes away from a hospital. it was so traumatic and so unexpected. it just feels like it happened to somebody else. 20 minutes into the journey on the tube towards home, i started to feel the effects of the pill kicking in. i started to feel nauseous, i started to sweat, started to get cold, went extremely pale, apparently. and then the pain and nausea was so extreme that i had to get off the tube. i lay down on a bench in the tube and basicallyjust decided that i wasn't going to move any further. it was so painful and so frightening that to scream would have been
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to completely give in to it. doctors and politicians around the country are now urging the health secretary to follow what other countries are doing and allow women here to take the second pill home with them. we know that when women are allowed to take the second tablet at home that it is safe. it's highly effective, and they much, much prefer it. you talked about the current system punishing women — is that how you see it? i do feel — it's a strong word, punishment — but i can't see how anyone who wants to improve the care for women wouldn't agree that this is the most sensible way to go forward. how did you feel, knowing that you were starting to pass your pregnancy and you were in this
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hugely public place? i felt scared and exposed, and it just felt really unfair. you know, maybe i was unlucky to be in that small percentage of people that if it happens within 30 minutes, but if it happens, then it does. there's no medical reason women have to take the pill in a clinic. in fact, the world health 0rganisation recommends they take it at home. we're in scotland, where six months ago, they changed the law to allow women to do this. we give them this box to take home, containing the second part of medication. and they will, 2a—a8 hours later, put the tablets under the tongue. we also make sure that women know what signs and symptoms might mean that they need to seek medical advice. but also, one of the specialist
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nurses will carry a mobile phone during office hours so they can phone if they've got any worries. sharon cameron has overseen the roll—out of the new system here in edinburgh. how many women are taking you up on the option of taking the pill home? so, of the women who are able to choose this who are in early pregnancy, eight out of ten have chosen to take the treatment at home. about 1000 women. so that shows that it's a really popular option, and this is what women want to do. we did wonder whether we might have more phone calls from women to our helpline. we haven't observed that at all. so that's really reassuring, that women feel they are getting enough information. we've also looked at the numbers of women who are coming back to our service or to the hospital with a complication, and that's really low, and it's not changed at all. forcing women to make two trips
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to the clinic carries an even greater risk than passing a pregnancy on the way home. those who struggle to get to a clinic may break the law by buying pills and taking them elsewhere. kate guthrie has worked in abortion care for 30 years, but now helps women here in britain who want to buy pills over the internet. women are accessing online abortion pills. i absolutely know that's the case. so, in a country where abortion is legal, women are breaking the law? absolutely. abortion's legal, but it's not accessible. we think we are setting up services to suit women, but nobody's asking the women. women are voting with their feet. they are going online, so we got it all wrong. what are the risks of buying pills online? a, you've got no idea what's in the pill, and work has been done with different medication to show that what you think you're buying is not what you're buying. you don't know what the dose is. since kate's service launched 18 months ago, more than 2000 women have contacted her asking for pills. and over the past three years, drug enforcement officers have
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seized almost 10,000 sets of pills heading to addresses in britain. what reasons do women give you for wanting to buy the pills? a lot of it is, i'm a single parent, or i'm a single mother, and i've got children to look after. women have access to help saying the nearest clinic's 150 miles away. and they are. for a lot of women, any visit is difficult, but the additional visit is even worse. the second trip caused big problems for lois, who had to travel in bad weather with a baby. half an hour walk with a pushchair in the snow, and when i arrived at the clinic, there was nobody there. the clinic was unexpectedly closed. and i was horrified, because i was thinking, what on earth am i supposed to do? i've got to have the second set of pills, does this mean this abortion isn't going to work? what if i'm still pregnant? i had all these horrible thought going in my head. she then had to wait an agonising three weeks before finding out the abortion had worked.
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it's taken me a long time to not blame myself for what happened. the whole thing is has clearly upset you an awful lot. yes, it's very upsetting, very upsetting. i wouldn't change my mind. if someone was to ask me, i know it was the right decision that i made for my family. i haven't added to my family in any way since, and it's something that i've only reallyjust begun to process. no—one's saying that doing this is pleasant, but the added strains, the added pressure, just made it far, far worse. to get around these difficulties, some clinics and hospitals now allow women to take both sets of pills on the same day, even though this increases the risk of complications. having a healthcare system which does not look
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after women is a risky system, and it'sjust not acceptable. 0ne argument used against the change you want to see is that this would encourage more women to have abortions. it would make abortion too easy. allowing women to take the second tablet at home is not going to increase the number of abortions. this is not diy abortion care. it's just saying that we are trusting them to take this in a place where they can be more comfortable and have more privacy and dignity. it is not changing the regulation of abortion in this country. what difference would it have made to you to be able to take the pills at home? i would have been able to have everything that one needs — no movement, a comfortable bed, a hot water bottle, painkillers. you know, i didn't have any of that. i had to sit on a moving train, lie on a hard, wooden bench, be gawped that by men in suits.
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so, this is the letter i wrote to the health minister. it goes: one year ago, i took the abortion pill... with wales following scotland's lead, it's now only women in england who can't take the pill at home, putting pressure on the health secretary to act. allowing home use of the pill for abortions would save the nhs money and save thousands of women like me from pain and distress. you personally have the power... there are women on buses, there are women in taxes and cars and on tubes going through what i went through right now. and the health minister could change that overnight. yet, day by day, more women are being put through that experience, so that makes me angry, very angry. please listen to my experience and that of so many women and take this simple action so that other women in england do not have to face the same ordeal. the department of health and social care have told us and claudia that they are looking
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at the evidence on this and monitoring the situation in scotland. we have all the evidence. everyone is doing it, it's fine. you are putting women through this experience for no reason. we did at the health secretary matt hancock to appear on the programme to discuss the story. we were told he was not available, but the department of health provided the following statement. around 180,000 women have an abortion each year in england. we have a tough regulator in place to ensure the care they receive is safe and of the highest quality. we are currently monitoring the proceedings in scotland closely and will fully consider the outcome of thejudicial and will fully consider the outcome of the judicial review. still to come. . . of the judicial review. still to come... 0uraid of the judicial review. still to come... 0ur aid agencies doing enough to address sexual exploitation within the sector? we will be speaking to the author of a damning report by mps which is accusing charities of complacency, verging on complicity over the
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problem. and when she was 1a, she was diagnosed with a rare degenerative disease which affected his site. now she has written a work of fiction inspired by her own story to help others understand what it is like to live in a world that is visibly disappearing. we will hear his story before ten o'clock. time for the latest news here's annita mcveigh. the headlines on bbc news... women in england are choosing to buy the abortion pill over the internet illegally because they can get to clinics to take it. in england they must take it at a hospital clinic before travelling home for the abortion process to begin, but the effect of the medication can start within 30 minutes and for some of the women we spoke to, that was in the women we spoke to, that was in the taxi or tube on the way home from the clinic. sexual exploitation and abuse is
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endemic across the aid sector, according to a new report from mps. a report by the international development committee says there's been a "culture of denial" since revelations earlier this year that 0xfam workers paid for sex while helping victims of the 2010 earthquake in haiti. the charity has acknowledged it has "further to go" to tackle the issue. the father of the missing airman corrie mckeague says he believes his son will never be found. in a post on facebook martin mckeague says the evidence suggests the 23—year—old's remains are somewhere within the waste disposal system. that follows his disappearance after a night out in suffolk two years ago. police believe corrie climbed into a waste bin and was taken away bya into a waste bin and was taken away by a ref use lorry. us intelligence officials have told the washington post that north korea appears to be building new ballistic missiles, despite better relations with the trump administration. the officials, speaking anonymously, told the newspaper that new evidence suggested work was still taking place at a factory near pyongyang that produced the first north korean missiles capable of reaching the united states. labour's deputy leader tom watson
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has described a member of the party's ruling body as "a loud mouthed bully" after he was recorded apparently criticising members of the jewish community. in the recording, peter willsman an ally ofjeremy corbyn accuses them of making up claims of anti semitism in the party. it's understood mr willsman has apologised and will not face any further action. dixons carphone says the personal details of 10 million people were hacked last year, much higher previously thought. —— much higher than previously thought. the company has been investigating the hack since it first revealed it in june. it said personal information, names, addresses and email addresses, may have been accessed last year, but not bank details and it found no evidence that fraud has resulted from the breach. and that's a summary of the latest bbc news. chris has the sport.
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andy murray is on the comeback trail, coming from a set down to win at the washington open, beating the world number 80 mackenzie mcdonald in three sets. geraint thomas says chris froome was a true gentleman when it became clear he had the best chance of winning the tonne. thomas said it was anything but awkward. rachelle rocky clerk of england has announced her retirement from international rugby. this is not her, although tyson fury could be a proper! tyson fury has said he wants to fight deontay wilder. and rockey clark has retired from international by, clark has retired from international rugby, she is england's most capped player of all—time. we will rearrange the pictures for you when i come next time! sexual exploitation and abuse by workers has been rife across the aid sector for years, but agencies have collectively failed to fully confront or address the problem, according to a damning report by mps.
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the international development committee says the aid sector has shown "complacency verging on complicity" in its sluggish response to abuse by its own personnel. the report was published in response to widespread allegations across the sector that began six months ago when it was revealed that that 0xfam workers had paid survivors of the 2010 earthquake in haiti for sex. we will be discussing all of this with the report author and others in a few moments. first though let's look at an investigation by this programme last month in which we revealed allegations against another leading aid agency — although not one featured in today's mps report — medecins sans frontiers. whistleblowers who worked at msf told us that aid staff hired prostitutes whilst out africa and one said that she was told by a senior colleague that it was possible to exchange medication for sex. here's an extract from anna adams' report.
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medecins sans frontieres is one of the biggest foreign aid agencies in the world. it brings vital medical supplies and clinicians to incredibly dangerous countries. but we've spoken to people who say some aid workers exploited vulnerable women. we've spent months talking to women who used to work at medecins sans frontieres and they've all told us very similar stories. we've heard accounts of endemic bullying, misogyny and sexism inside the organisation, and in some cases even the use of prostitutes in the field. this investigation is not about the doctors or nurses. we're told it was some of the logistical staff who were abusing their power. a whistle—blower from london told us what she saw when she was sent to kenya. there was a senior member of staff who was bringing girls back to the msf house. obviously, i couldn't know for certain that they were having sexual relationships, but it was implicit that they were. these girls were very young, and they were rumoured to be prostitutes. it was difficult for people to challenge him, because he was quite senior.
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we met another whistle—blower in europe. she told us a senior member of staff had said it was possible to barter sex for medication with women who were getting medical aid. he said "it's so easy to barter medication with these easy girls in liberia". he was suggesting that lots of the young girls who'd lost their parents to the ebola crisis, that they would do anything sexual in exchange for medication. and had he been there himself? yes, he had. in fact, he bragged about it quite a lot. to say it in front of three or four people who were there and to say it to me very directly, what's this all about? it was impossible for us to verify this claim because the whistle—blower was not in liberia at the time. when we put this to msf, they said they needed more information to investigate. another source who worked with msf in africa said the use of local sex workers was widespread. there was this older colleague
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who actually moved a woman into the compound. he was in his fifties. she was a lot, lot younger. it was pretty obvious that she was a prostitute, but he called her his girlfriend. i saw one of my colleagues and he'd gone into the toilet with a local prostitute. i knew her to talk to because she worked in one of the bars. she told me they'd had sex, and that he'd paid her. we've seen an internal report that shows that msf were looking into harassment claims back in 2016. the report showed a third of female employees they'd spoken to said they had been touched inappropriately at work. and they sacked 19 staff for sexual harassment last year alone. msf said they had reviewed their files, but couldn't find any records of the claims against the london office. they said they were saddened to hear the allegations, but hoped more people might now come forward. msf told us at the time of that report that it does
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not tolerate "abuse, harassment or exploitation" and that the use of prostitutes is banned by msf under its strict code of conduct. let's return to today's damning report by mps saying that the aid sector has known about sexual exploitation and abuse by its workers for years but has failed to deal with the problem, and talk now to the chair of the committee who wrote that report, labour mp stephen twigg, from save the children uk martha mackenzie, the ceo of child exploitation charity ecpat charti patel, and michelle russell from the charities commission. it is not bharti, is it? it is. i
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saw a little flicker from the corner of my eye. there is nothing more frustrating than people getting your name wrong. stephen, what did you find in this report? six months ago the times revealed what had happened in haiti with 0xfam staff. we realised it was not a new issue, we uncovered evidence going back 16 yea rs uncovered evidence going back 16 years about sexual abuse and exploitation happening, for example united nations peacekeepers and a range of non—governmental organisations. we took evidence about sexual harassment in the workplace, where eight workers were facing sexual harassment. this is com pletely facing sexual harassment. this is completely unacceptable. we found previously reports had been published, there was a flurry of activity and it quietened down and people moved on. we now have an opportunity to really sustain improvement rather than it being yet another example of an episodic concern and everybody moves on to something else. bharti, i can see
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you nodding? it is a small charity which has been campaigning for the protection of children not just which has been campaigning for the protection of children notjust in the uk but abroad. we feel this report is not only welcome but long overdue. we have been recording and monitoring cases of children being abused by 200, say, british nationals who have gone to some of these countries and volunteered to work in the aid agencies that are providing some help to some of the most vulnerable children and young women we are talking about. and then to use that particular position to abuse, particularly children, this isjust horrific. abuse, particularly children, this is just horrific. stephen abuse, particularly children, this isjust horrific. stephen is correct, it not only needs to be highlighted but we need to take action immediately and we need to work with smaller charities in those countries to make sure they are aware of what is happening. martha, as someone from save the children uk, save the children in
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the year to march 2017 had over 30 allegations of abuse or exploitation. it's differs to oxfam because at your charity they were all internal allegations, but do you recognise and accept the criticisms in this report? absolutely, for as it is an incredibly welcome report. as stephen said, as a result of this report we would really like to see transformational change. in terms of sexual exploitation and abuse on the ground, save the children has been looking at this for a long time. we published a report in 2002 and again in 2008. as stephen alluded to, we have seen internal change off the back of these reports, and some small change, but not necessarily agencies coming together and governments for a real transformational push. stephen is saying this is complacency verging on complicity, it is disgraceful. we would absolutely agree. charities like yours. the vast majority of aid
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workers are incredibly brave, inspiring people who get into this industry because they want to help the most vulnerable people, i work alongside some amazing people, some of whom risked their lives daily. unfortunately, as we have heard, because the industry has access to some of the most vulnerable people in the world, sometimes people target the industry to get access to these people and what is welcome about the report is the recognition that it needs to be treated as a large—scale criminal activity in the same way as modern slavery and child trumpeting, and we need solutions recognising the scale of the problem. —— modern slavery and child trafficking —— problem. —— modern slavery and child trafficking — — child problem. —— modern slavery and child trafficking —— child trafficking. michelle, i appreciate the investigation is ongoing, but across the sector, what needs to change? we welcome today's report, it endorses some of the messages we have been giving and talking about to the charity sector for a long time. it
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is not acceptable behaviour, this is about poor standards. the solution here is about leadership and culture. we have said for a long time that the only people who can protect the people that charities work with both within, their own staff and volunteers who do really good and hard work, as well as people they are there to support overseas and internationally, are the charities themselves. this is a marker that says we now need to stop talking about it and with words and actions do something about it. leadership culture has to change and it is to start with the charities. stephen, are you saying that senior people across the aid sector have known what is going on but have turned a blind eye, or not known how to deal with it? turned a blind eye, or not known how to dealwith it? i think it turned a blind eye, or not known how to deal with it? i think it is both. 0ne to deal with it? i think it is both. one of the comments made in the report is that it has appeared that
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sometimes the reputation of the organisation has been put ahead of protection of the most vulnerable. i think michelle is right that lots of it is about leadership and culture, but there needs to be more regulation, the sector cannot be left to regulate itself, that is why we have endorsed a register of aid workers which would be similar to dps checking in this country, very challenging to implement internationally but we do not want somebody doing something in one country and then being able to leave this place and work in another country. people have moved from charity to charity. the problem with the bs checking, and i have been, because i volunteer my children's schools, once you have had the check it is out of date. so how do you make sure somebody cannot work for an aid organisation, commit an offence against somebody and move to the next one? that is the challenge. cbs cover somebody who has a record,
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for the first offence it does not help. there is only one element of what is needed. the other thing we felt very strongly about based on evidence was that the voices of the survivors and victims were not being heard, that is part of the reason we have proposed an aid ombudsman. 0f somebody has complained to a charity or part of the un and got nowhere, they should have a place to which they should have a place to which they can appeal. that is what is missing from the current discourse. we are talking about a charities, the workers abusing the children and women, what is missing is the voices. where are they? what is their circumstances right now? are they getting the support they need. what i would like to see in the build you are proposing is a very clear victim support measure in that. what is that support that children will get, how will that happen? in itself, that will bring the required trust which is currently broken in the n60 sector,
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and we need to build that trust make sure that people the help of the confidence in these organisations and the people supporting them, so they can ask and go to them rather than be afraid. martha, what are charities doing to make sure people can come forwards and feel confident that they will be taken seriously and also that action will be taken? 0ne and also that action will be taken? one of the things lots of charities including others are doing is investing in this area, making sure we have dedicated and train safeguarding team is based on headquarters but also all around the world where we work, equally investing in the support the survivors are making sure we have teams investigating complaints that are based on local communities in carrying out safeguarding risk assessments. another of the really critical recommendations is based around reporting, we need to see charities coming forward and being more public with their figures,
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which will give victims of abuse confidence to come forward and know this will be taken seriously. isn't the problem that the report demonstrates that charities and organisations across the aid sector can't be trusted to get their house in order, so can we trust them going forward to sort this out orders there need to be somebody else? there are 167,000 charities in england and wales and 17,000 of those tell as they work internationally, the public tell us they trust charities because of the important work they do. but actually what you do is now not enough for the public, it is about how you do it. donations must have dropped off asa it. donations must have dropped off as a result? above all sorts of things are in the mix, sometimes it is what inspires you to give to charity is the trust and the end cause, sometimes people make the choice to choose another charity if they are not comfortable with it. that is something that charities need to seize on about why it is so
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important to set the tone from the top, it is leadership culture and saying if you want to abuse our charities, you are not welcome in our sector, not just our charities, you are not welcome in our sector, notjust our charity but our sector, notjust our charity but our sector. don't even think you can come near us our sector. don't even think you can come near us to our sector. don't even think you can come near us to abuse us our sector. don't even think you can come near us to abuse us and the work we do. thank you so much for coming in, i am very grateful. when she was 1a years old, paola peretti was diagnosed with a rare genetic illness called stagardt disease. it's a degenerative condition that she was told could eventually lead to her going blind. the diagnosis and her slowly deteriorating eyesight has been difficult to deal with emotionally as well as physically, but she's determined not to let hit hold her back. —— knost to let it hold her back. she has written a beautiful work of fiction centred on a young girl experiencing the same thing, to help people understand what it is like to live in a world visibly disappearing. paola is speaking to us disappearing. paola is speaking to us in herfirst uk interview. thank you so much for coming to speak to me, iam you so much for coming to speak to me, i am very grateful. tell me
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first of all, to know that you were going blind so young, how hard was that for you? yeah, it has been quite, quite hard. i was very young. at the beginning doctors thought i was only short—sighted and then i found out that i suffer from a serious disease. it got worse in a very slow and gradual way. i had the habit of it. you seem very upbeat, you don't seem like it is something that gets you down? yes, sometimes. sometimes it is quite difficult. i think that if you think in an
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alternative way, you can find a way to do everything that you want. what are the biggest changes in your life? what do you miss? may be reading books on paper. i usually reading books on paper. i usually read books on my e—book because i can use a programme for a bigger font. books on paper, i miss it. are there any things that have surprised you, that by losing your site you appreciate other things?|j you, that by losing your site you appreciate other things? i think every person with a disability or a pathology develops a sort of sixth sense, and we can feel the attitude and the mood of other people. this isa and the mood of other people. this is a surprise and a really good
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thing, i think. so is a surprise and a really good thing, ithink. so you is a surprise and a really good thing, i think. so you decided to write your book, i have been flicking through it and reading bits of it and it is really beautifully written. thank you. why did you decide you wanted to right?|j written. thank you. why did you decide you wanted to right? i was attending creative writing school in the town where i live near verona in italy. the teacher found the town where i live near verona in italy. the teacherfound out the town where i live near verona in italy. the teacher found out this girl's voice. so we decided to think about a story, like my story. the main character is part of my soul. tell as a little bit about the characters in the book. the main characters in the book. the main character is a nine—year—old girl who finds out that she suffers from stargardt pathology. this is the right name. she is a girl, she only
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wa nts to right name. she is a girl, she only wants to live a quiet and normal life, a simple life, and she really loves also trees and climbing trees. when she discovers that she has this pathology she starts to have a of the things that she can't list do, with the worsening of the pathology. i want you to read it. one of the things that really touched me was the moment when you wrote in the book that she went to see the doctor with her parents and they said she had literally got maybe six months left before it all went dark. it really struck me that she did not quite, first of all, understand what that meant, and then suddenly she got it. yes. i think she starts to
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accept the pathology in that moment. and i accepted it when i wrote a book. it is very difficult for a girl, but also for a woman, for every person. personally, i don't wa nt to every person. personally, i don't want to be stopped by the disease. and do you hope that this will help young people who are maybe facing the same challenges you did to understand it does not have to be terrifying? yes, i hope it. it is terrible to have a disease like this one, i know that. your site is very important, mostly in this society. — your important, mostly in this society. —— yoursight is important, mostly in this society. —— your sight is very important. but it is not so important, you can find other instruments to live and to be
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happy. thank you so much for coming to speak to us, i am very grateful. paola peretti, thank you so much. it's achieved record breaking audiences on itv this summer and sparked an intense debate about popular culture. love island came to a climax last night with dani dyer and jack fincham winning the series and taking home £50,000. dani and jack. applause laura and paul. all summer, the public have been obsessed by your every m ove . we've laughed with you, we've cried with you, but most of all, we've fallen in love with you. and now it's time to reveal the winning couple. the winners of love island 2018 are... dani and jack!
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cheering and applause they "coupled up" on the first episode of the itv2 programme two months ago. dani — who's the daughter of actor danny dyer — and pen salesmanjack fincham stayed together the whole time and became the most popular couple with viewers. staying together the whole time is pretty unusual. they beat couples laura and paul who came second, kaz and josh who came third, and megan and wes who finished fourth. joining me now is entertainment journalist emma bullimore. thank you for coming to talk about this. jack and dani wall was going to win? it was such a foregone conclusion, it has been a great cb
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is but the final was boring, we all knew dani and jack would win, they we re knew dani and jack would win, they were the only ones who were surprised. 0ne were the only ones who were surprised. one of the criticisms of love island is that nobody is there to find love, they are just there to be famous, but the two of them definitely had a connection and you might believe they could stay together, at least. they say they will move in together, so it was a good job that when jack was asked if they would share the winnings, he said yes. explain the concept. one envelope has nothing, one has 50 grand. the person who gets 50 grams kamke borchert it. they will make more than 50 k a day when they come out through reality shows and personal appearances, so that is small fry if they are savvy. people who go on to reality shows are quite savvy now. it has been really popular this year and cut through more than any other series, is that just and cut through more than any other series, is thatjust because it is another series and we are watching it more and more? partly it is
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grubbing like bake 0ff it more and more? partly it is grubbing like bake off in that it was niche and then more and more people hear about it, partly there was nothing else on. and once you watch one episode it is exactly the kind of thing that gets its claws into you and you are hooked. if you don't like sport, it was about the only thing on that anybody was talking about this summer. it has been criticised for lack of diversity. i watched the first day when they were all going in, just to see loads of... enhanced young women and buffed up men. very white, not as many people from ethnic lack of disability, lack of size, lack of sexual orientation. lots of calls for there to be an lgbt love island, i don't think it would work if it was mixed because everybody has to be re—coupling. it is disappointing, especially in terms of size and diversity, is that the message we are sending two young girls that you
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had to look this way to get a boyfriend? about had to look this way to get a boyfriend ? about and had to look this way to get a boyfriend? about and boys, to be honest declamation locks and people will be happy that jack was normal, let's be honest, whereas the others we re very let's be honest, whereas the others were very buff. it is disappointing. we always hear about a photoshopping and are brushing etc, it would be nice to have a fewer body shapes. they can still be sexy and beautiful, aspirational, you wanted to be some escapism, butjust have a bit more variety. you can see girls at home saying i don't have a boyfriend, i don't look like that, that must be the reason. it is very superficial, it is not that the person is intelligent. yes, there was a doctor and a lawyer that, but that was not the focus of the show. did love island have more applicants than 0xford did love island have more applicants than oxford and cambridge? everyone goes we could make far more money, you can potentially make millions coming out? i don't think that is the only reason, you had to be a
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certain mindset to want to go to 0xbridge, it is a more elitist institution and love island. it is a strange statistic. but it is certainly becoming more mainstream, people think it is a great way to make money and have some exposure and get profile, people want to be famous. what does it say about our viewing habits? so often people watch tv on demand, it is very row that people will sit down at 9pm, but you had to watch love island live to enjoy it? it is event tv, there is not much left. it is nice to see, particularly in a show encouraging the younger demographic, because they serve up —— those other people watching netflix and things on their phones. people still have a television, they like to sit down. many people in social media are saying what will i do at 9pm?! talk to your partner or your family, perhaps! thank you for coming in. let's get the latest weather update with carole. not too bad, some of us have rain in
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the forecast. heavy thundery showers have pushed into the north sea, the sun has come out behind but we have a system coming in across the northwest. western parts of ireland as well, bringing in thick cloud and rain. you can see there will be a fair bit of sunshine around, varying amounts of cloud through the course of the day. one or two showers in west wales in south—west england. they will be the exception rather than the rule. feeding into the afternoon we have cloud and rain moving across western scotland. brighter skies across the far north—east. rain clearing northern ireland, a lot of cloud behind with some drizzle, some getting into cumbria. generally for the rest of england and wales, we are going to have a dry afternoon and also a sunny have a dry afternoon and also a sunny one. have a dry afternoon and also a sunny one. temperature is responding accordingly. we could get at 26 in the south, 1a15 if you are stuck under the cloud and rain. as we head through this evening and overnight, that same system continues to push east and also south. the heaviest
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rain in it will be across western scotland, and we will see a bit more coming in across northern ireland. as it comes south, it is reallyjust a band of cloud. under clear skies it will not be as muggy as it was last night. the temperatures between north and south are not too dissimilar, simply because we have more cloud in the north and less in the south and we have had. moving on into tomorrow, a lot of dry weather, afair bit into tomorrow, a lot of dry weather, a fair bit of sunshine around. cloud building to the course of the day. 0ne building to the course of the day. one or two showers in the highlands. we have all of this rain piling in from northern ireland, pushing across into western scotland, fringing west wales, especially the northwest. we will see some of that later across north—west england. temperatures between 18 and about 26, maybe a little bit higher in the south—east. hello it's tuesday, it's 10 o'clock, i'm chloe tilley. this programme has exclusively learned that women in england are resorting to illegally buying the abortion pill over the internet because they cannot get to clinics to take it.
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the practice of making women take the pill at either a hospital or clinic, before travelling home, has even led to some aborting on public transport. it was so painful and so frightening, that to scream would be to completely give into it. scotla nd scotland and wales have recently changed the law to allow women to ta ke changed the law to allow women to take the pill at home. so why is england failing to do the same? more than a quarter of children starting primary school lack basic literary skills according to new research, as the education secretary talks of the scandal of some pupils being left behind. we will ask what can be done to close the gap on learning. and would you be upset if your daily commute had an advert for a holiday
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offering roasting temperatures which is ashley for a cremation? 0r offering roasting temperatures which is ashley for a cremation? or what looks like a young bride picking out a wedding dress, but actually picking out a cough and for her big day? the adverts were blocked from tube stations on the grounds of taste. but are they exactly what is needed to get people saving for the inevitable and why are we still so afraid to talk about death? good morning, it's 10 o'clock. here's annita mcveigh is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the days news. women in england are choosing to buy the abortion pill over the internet illegally because they can't get to clinics to take it. in england, women must take the pill at a hospital or clinic, before travelling home for the abortion process to begin. but the effects of the medication can start within just 30 minutes, and for some of the woman we spoke to, that was in the taxi or tube on their way home from the clinic. the international development committee says there's been
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a "culture of denial" since revelations earlier this year that 0xfam workers paid for sex while helping victims of the 2010 earthquake in haiti. the charity has acknowledged it has "further to go" to tackle the issue. the father of the missing airman corrie mckeague says he believes his son will never be found. in a post on facebook martin mckeague says the evidence suggests the 23 year old's remains are somewhere within the waste disposal system following his dissapearance after a night out in suffolk, two years ago. police believe corrie climbed into a waste bin and was taken away by a refuse lorry. us intelligence officials have told the washington post that north korea appears to be building new ballistic missiles, despite better relations with the trump administration. the officials, speaking anonymously, told the newspaper that new evidence suggested work was still taking place at a factory near pyongyang that produced the first north korean missiles capable of reaching the united states.
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labour's deputy leader tom watson has described a member of the party's ruling body as "a loud mouthed bully" after he was recorded apparently criticising members of the jewish community. in the recording, peter willsman an ally ofjeremy corbyn accuses them of making up claims of anti semitism in the party. it's understood mr willsman has apologised and will not face any further action. dixons carphone says the personal details of 10 million people were hacked last year, much higher than previously thought. the company has been investigating the hack since it first revealed it in june. it said personal information, names, addresses and email addresses, may have been accessed last year, but not bank details and it found no evidence that fraud has resulted from the breach. more than 500 hikers have been safely brought down from a mountain on the indonesian island of lombok after being stranded by rockfalls caused by an earthquake. the body of one indonesian climber killed by a falling rock on mount rinjani is still to be recovered.
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officials say a further 15 people have died elsewhere on the island. parents in england need more support to help their children learn basic language skills according to the education secretary. in a speech about social mobility, damian hinds will label the issue a "persistent scandal" and offer more support for parents. department of education figures suggest that by the end of reception class more than a quarter of children lack the communication skills they need. if you're a car lover, these pictures might be painful to watch. this bulldozer is crushing over £6 million worth of luxury cars and motorbikes. porsches, harley davidsons and lamborghinis were all targeted as part of the crackdown on illegally imported cars to the philippines. the country's president says he hopes it'll be a deterrent to criminals. that's a summary of the latest bbc news more at 10.30. ina
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in a moment we will have more on our exclusive story on how women are resorting to buying illegal abortion pills over the internet, because they can't get the clinics. dan responded by saying, access to safer, more effective treatment for women, why on earth is this even a debate? it is obvious. if this topic was about an issue that affected men, we would not even be having this discussion. what do you think? you can get in touch all of the usual ways, you can use the hashtag, and if you are e—mailing and you are happy to be contacted, include your phone number and remember that if you do text you will be charged at the standard network rate. now let's get on sport. andy murray is back. and he is winning, though he didn't haveit and he is winning, though he didn't have it all his own way. he service was broken twice in the opening set which he lost 6—3 inside a0 minutes. but we saw the old murray. fighting back at the washington 0pen and ffter two—and—a—half hours against the world number 80
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mckensie mcdonald he'd fought back to win in three sets. he'll play briton's number one kyle edmund next! geraint thomas said there was no friction between him and chris froome. he says they are a good team and there was no problem at all but between him and chris froome, who started the tour de france as the favourite. he said he unexpectedly became number one and that was ok. it was anything but awkward. he was a true gentleman about it, really. we get on really well. we have been in the same team for ten or 11 years. it must have been tough for him, going for his fifth tour de france, which is obviously a joint record. froomie lost a bit of time and it didn't need to be said. it was pretty obvious then that i have the best chance of finishing for the team. he fully accepted that, fully committed. to have someone of his calibre helping me was just great, obviously.
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britain's most decorated paralympian says there should be women ‘s tour de france. at the moment the only official competition is the one—day la course event. but dame sarah storey rode with a group of women who were cycling every stage of the tour ahead of the men, and says there is an appetite for a women's equivalent. they wanted to see the women on the side of the road, just zooming past. i think there is a case for it to be there. it will not happen overnight. the women have not trained for a three—week tour, they need notice for that to happen. but maybe when the french have the olympics in 202a, why not put on a women's tour de france at the same time and give the peloton enough notice to prepare? england's most capped player of all time rochelle rocky clark has announced her retirement from international rugby. the 37—year—old prop, a world cup winner in 201a,
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won 137 caps during her 15—year international career. she became england's most capped player when she surpassed jason leonard's previous record of 11a in november 2016, and retires as the most capped female international player of all time. toa to a massive achievement, something i never thought i would get to, getting my first cap was just out of this world. achieving a few more than that. but to hit the record, surpassed jason, it has been a dream come true. i have lived such a fairy tale life for the last 15 years. you know, there have been highs and lows, but i've loved every minute. fantastic story. that is all the sport and i will see you soon. this programme has been told that women are illegally taking abortion pills they ve bought online because they don t want to have to take them at clinics. in england women must take the pill at a hospital or clinic, before travelling home to wait for the abortion to take place. but often that it can start to happen before they get there. senior doctors and politicians
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are urging the health secretary to change the law — to allow women to take the pill at home. we ll be discussing this is a moment — but first our reporter jean mackenzie has been speaking to two women about their experience of taking the pill. it's a very physical taking over of your body. waves and waves of cramping and pain. sweating. these women are describing something we don't often hear about. what it feels like to have an abortion. hello. i've come to meet claudia, who had an abortion last year. she took a taxi home from the hospital after taking the pill, but within minutes of getting in, the symptoms had started. so, i started to feel really unwell, just extremely nauseous, and was kind of getting that feeling in my chest like i might be about to throw up. and then i started getting cramping at the same time. i just didn't want to be sick
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in the taxi, and ijust really, really wanted to get home. in between getting out of the taxi and the symptoms really starting in that very physical and uncontrollable sense, that was like a minute. do you think about what could have happened if you had just been five minutes later? i mean, i know what would have happened if i had been five minutes later. if it had been five minutes later, all of those symptoms would have been happening on the floor of the taxi. i would have been sick in the taxi, i would have started bleeding in the taxi, and i would have started losing control of my bowels in the taxi. i lived 15 minutes away from a hospital. not every woman lives 15 minutes away from a hospital. it was so traumatic and so unexpected. 20 minutes into the journey on the tube towards home, i started to feel the effects of the pill kicking in. i started to feel nauseous,
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i started to sweat, started to get cold, went extremely pale, apparently. and then the pain and nausea was so extreme that i had to get off the tube. i lay down on a bench in the tube and basicallyjust decided that i wasn't going to move any further. how did you feel, knowing that you were starting to pass your pregnancy and you were in this hugely public place? i felt scared and exposed, and it just felt really unfair. you know, maybe i was unlucky to be in that small percentage of people that it happens within 30 minutes, but if it happens, then it does. what difference would it have
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made to you to be able to take the pills at home? i would have been able to have everything that one needs — no movement, a comfortable bed, a hot water bottle, painkillers. you know, i didn't have any of that. i had to be gawped at by men in suits. so, this is the letter i wrote to the health minister. it goes: one year ago, i took the abortion pill... senior doctors and politicians are urging the health secretary to change the law. there are women on buses, there are women in taxes and cars and on tubes going through what i went through right now. and the health minister could change that overnight.
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yet, day by day, more women are being put through that experience, so that makes me angry, very angry. we did invite the health secretary matt hancock onto the programme to talk about this, but he wasn't available. but the department of health and social care did send this statement. it said: "around180,000 women have an abortion each year in england. we have a tough regulator in place to ensure the care women receive is safe and of the highest quality. we are currently monitoring the proceedings in scotland closely, and will fully consider the outcome of the judicial review. well we can speak now to a group of doctors and politicians who are urging the health secretary to change the law as soon as possible. diana johnson is a labour mp and one of 50 mps who have written to the health secretary. sophie walker is the leader of the women's equality party, who have been campaigning for women to be able to take the pill at home for some time. drjane dickson is a sexual health consultant in wales — where women have recently be allowed
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to take the pills at home. drjonathan lord is a consultant in obstetrics and gynaecology at royal cornwall hospital. to get around the rules he has started giving women the pills on the same day, despite this increasing the risk of complications. and clare murphy is from the british pregnancy advisory service which supports the change in the law. thank you all for taking the time to talk to us. first of all, sophie, this is something your party has campaigned on for a long time. why is it so important to have this change? we got a sense of it from those women. but why is it necessary? because women's reproductive rights are human rights. this is a health care issue, not a criminaljustice issue. there is absolutely no reason why women should not be able to have control over their own bodies. we are campaigning for home use within the context of a wider decriminalisation
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of abortion. what we are saying is that we have got to stop moralising about this, we have to allow women control over their own bodies. there isa control over their own bodies. there is a lot of hypocrisy around this decision, because the world health 0rganization has agreed that this pill is perfectly safe to take home. the health secretary has has it within his purview to change this, there was no change to the law required. it is an ongoing abuse of human rights that women are being controlled and surveyed in this way. i would also point out that they are actually also being sent to prison, natalie karas was sent to prison for two and a half years for buying abortion pills online and that is an outrage. you allow women at the moment to take the two pills together, on the same day. there are some concerns about complications and the effectiveness of that happens. just outlined those for us?
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that's right, in order to stop women having to come back for separate appointments, we do allow women to ta ke appointments, we do allow women to take both pills at once. it is likely less effective, but we give them the option of coming back, we explain what the risks are. we find that most women do want to take them at once. they don't want to come back for a separate appointment. these are woman with childcare commitments, working commitments, these are sometimes women in abusive situations who sibley cannot leave the house on multiple occasions to attend the appointments. —— simply. in an ideal world we would do exactly as sophie has outlined. this is what the world health organization recommends, this is absolutely within the power of the secretary of state for help to change. we cannot understand why this has not happened. we live in a time where we talk about evidence —based medicine, patient centred ca re —based medicine, patient centred care and we cannot understand why women having an early abortion are excluded from that and made to bleed
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on trains in this way. it is doubly unacceptable. jonathan, i want to bring you in. i know there are certain areas you are effectively cover, it is very rural, difficult for women to get to these clinics, so you also give out both on the same day? that's right, we give that because when you give the most effective regime, leaving 24—48 hours between them, as you heard from claudia and zoe in your introduction, things can happen very, very fast. although we used to do that, we had quite a few patients report back to us, with distressing and embarrassing experiences. we knew this had to change, so we looked at what our colleagues were doing and the evidence behind it. it brought in during the tab at the same day, as claire was describing. certainly it is a lot more popular with patients. —— we brought in
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giving the tablets the same day. it is popular with patients but there is popular with patients but there isa is popular with patients but there is a price to pay, it has more competitions. we are getting a lot of messages, from dvt it seems to suggest the alnwick allows the second pill to be taken and then the women are discharged straightaway. why is there no after—care to allow these patients to stay in comfort, which then we would not say the case that we saw in our film of these women starting to go through the abortion in the back of a taxi or on the tube train? patients can stay in hospital and coming to a ward, it is just it is extremely unpopular because all of the emotions you heard before, your patient described it as heard before, your patient described itasa heard before, your patient described it as a very physical taking over of your body, if that is in an nhs ward, is more distressing than being in the privacy of your home,
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surrounded by supportive family. everybody he runs these programmes keep very close tabs on their patients, we routinely call them up the next day, then two weeks later, to make sure everything is fine. we provide a 24—hour phone number in case there are any problems. but most of medicine is about trying to get patients out of hospitals and into more community settings, and home better still. this is no exception. doctorjane dickson, i wa nt to exception. doctorjane dickson, i want to bring you in. at the moment in wales, women can, there has been a change, women can have these pills at home. before i speak to you about that, what is the average time that women will start to go through the abortion process after taking this second pill? we seem to be getting some in the comments from people saying that it is very quick? some in the comments from people saying that it is very quick7m some in the comments from people saying that it is very quick? it is very unpredictable. obviously claudia's story it tells us that it happened within 30 minutes. i would say more commonly it is between two
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and four hours. right. and what difference have you seen in wales now, that women are able to take these pills away from a clinic or a hospital and take them at home, in the comfort of their own home? hospital and take them at home, in the comfort of their own home7m hospital and take them at home, in the comfort of their own home? it is very early days in wales, actually, the legislation was only changed about a month ago. what we have seen in scotland is that women very much like the change. asjonathan has already alluded to, there is a slightly better success rate when 24-48 slightly better success rate when 24—48 hours is left between the first pill and the second pill. in wales, one of the major drivers for the change was the recent terrible weather, many women were unable to get back to the clinic for their second dose of tablets and they had to redo the whole abortion process again. that was a very key driver for us. we know, though, that this medication is used routinely for miscarriage, given at home. ijust
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feel it punishes women, to not be able to take it in two separate doses at home, as the who recommends. claire, looking at what happened in scotland as well as wales, has there been an increased u pta ke wales, has there been an increased uptake in the number of women who are taking his abortion pills? that is always the concern, if you make it easierfor women, they is always the concern, if you make it easier for women, they possibly won't think it through as deeply and it is easy. that is the argument put forward. ijust think it is easy. that is the argument put forward. i just think that is absurd. there is not a single woman sitting in our clinics right now that wants to be there. women do everything to avoid unwanted pregnancy. this is about making sure that a woman who meets the legal requirement under the abortion act has access to the highest possible clinical care. i should say in response to the department of health statement, where they talked about their interest is in ensuring that women have the highest quality care, thatis women have the highest quality care, that is not happening at the moment.
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the department of health has the ability to change that. for some reason, it hasn't. it is hard to know what is going on. this is a simple change that could make sure that women have a high quality care they need. as jane has pointed out, we see women coming for miscarriage treatments, abortion treatment, women coming for miscarriage treatment, we can give her the pills to ta ke treatment, we can give her the pills to take home, the same pills, in exactly the same package, to take home in her handbag, to take up the time that is right for her. for some reason, women undergoing a miscarriage ahzeemah is a different set of courage —— women undergoing a miscarriage are seen as a different set of women. it is not a clinical decision, it is a moral and political decision. i just want to read some messages coming from viewers. katie says i have an abortion at the age of 22, luckily i had a supportive parent that drove me to the clinic and back. however, having to take the tablets at the clinic meant that the abortion
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started to happen while i was in the a0 minute car journey started to happen while i was in the a0 minute carjourney home. i have never felt so distressed at what was happening. the pain was excruciating. not only that, it makes your bowels loose, i was terrified i was going to excrement and blood all over the car. it was the most horrific experience i have been through. you should definitely been through. you should definitely be allowed to take it in the security of your own home. an anonymous e—mail, and that is fine, to share your experiences anonymously, i had an abortion in the clinic and i was alone and scared because they would not let my boyfriend in to hold my hand and be my support. i wish i had access to home pills because i had to travel through the ice and the snow for over an hour through the ice and the snow for overan hourand through the ice and the snow for over an hour and was forced to be alone when i took those pills, when i have bad anxiety. why are we in the situation, diana? that's a very good question. part of the problem is that the laws around abortion are now over 50 years old. they are not really fit for purpose. i think on
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this particular issue, as has already been said, it is in the gift of the new secretary of state, we have a new person in that role, and thatis have a new person in that role, and that is why 50 mps wrote to him very early on in that role to say that this is something is already happening in scotland and wales, and english women are not being afforded the same women centred health care that we all want to see that these women, and we want him to do something about that. i raised it personally at the health select committee, where he appeared just last week. i think he understands that this is an issue he needs to address. that is what i was going to ask, how far do you think you are getting? i think for the last 18 months in parliament, there has been a number of opportunities for discussion about abortion, abortion provision, whether the 67 act is still fit for purpose. obviously we have had the referendum in southern ireland as well. i think there is
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now an appetite to start to discuss these issues, in a way that has not happened in parliament before. i think there has always been a concern that the 67 act might come in some way, be watered down or restricted for women's access. but i think now things are moving. i think there is an acceptance, it is what human rights, it is about making sure that women have access to the quality of health care that we want them all to have. there is a concern about the context in which this is happening. as you said at the beginning, we have been campaigning on this for a very long time. our members sent 400 —— 400,000 permission slips to amber root, we have to ask for permission for abortion, we are giving you permission to overturn the law. one of ourcampaigners has permission to overturn the law. one of our campaigners has written to jeremy hunt, we have also written to matt hancock. it is absolutely true that the referendum in southern ireland was incredibly powerful in terms of showing that people want a change. yet our conservative
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government has done a deal with the dup which is, i think, incredibly significant in this context. because the dup are very anti—women, they are very anti—women's reproduction of—— are very anti—women's reproduction of —— reproductive rights. are very anti—women's reproduction of -- reproductive rights. some people would say they are not anti—women. people would say they are not anti-women. well, ithink we people would say they are not anti-women. well, i think we have to be very clear at all of things going on in the background. if we are going to discuss a change to the law, as well as a change... there are law, as well as a change... there a re two law, as well as a change... there are two things, one is the change to the law. we are still effectively governed by the offences against the person act... parliament voted last year to get rid of that act. the mood in parliament has changed. i think there is now a view that it is time to review the 67 act and see if it is still fit for purpose. my deep
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concern is that there are other political reasons going on with the government that are preventing the health secretary from doing something that is in his purview to do right now. this message has come m, do right now. this message has come in, another anonymous message, last year my ex—partner suffered from... severe morning sickness? it is what the duchess of cambridge had. for ten weeks, she was unable to drink water or keep down any food. that seriously impacted both of our mental health and abortion was the only option, at least to save her. we went to the hospital a few times and a&e, and the help was extremely poon and a&e, and the help was extremely poor. they failed to understand the situation. thank you for coming in and talking to us. thank you for your messages, keep sharing your experiences. still to come... a prompt for
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honours conversations about death, orjust plain insensitive. we discuss these outfits for a funeral comparison website banned by transport for london. almost a quarter of children starting primary school lack basic literacy skills, according to research. education secretary says it isa research. education secretary says it is a scandal. we will talk to two head teachers and the head of a charity about how to close the learning gap. time for the latest news — here's annita mcveigh. the bbc news headlines this morning... women in england are choosing to buy the abortion pill over the internet illegally because they can't get to clinics to take it. in england, women must take the pill at a hospital or clinic, before travelling home for the abortion process to begin. but the effects of the medication can start within just 30 minutes, and for some of the woman we spoke to, that was in the taxi or tube on their way home from the clinic. according to a new report for mps,
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sexual exploitation is endemic across the aden sector. —— the byrd sector. the international development committee says there's been a "culture of denial" since revelations earlier this year that oxfam workers paid for sex while helping victims of the 2010 earthquake in haiti. the charity has acknowledged it has "further to go" to tackle the issue. the father of the missing airman corrie mckeague says he believes his son will never be found. in a post on facebook martin mckeague says the evidence suggests the 23 year old's remains are somewhere within the waste disposal system following his dissapearance after a night out in suffolk, two years ago. police believe corrie climbed into a waste bin and was taken away by a refuse lorry. dixons carphone says the personal details of 10 million people were hacked last year, much higher than previously thought. the company has been investigating the hack since it first revealed it in june. it said personal information, names, addresses and email addresses, may have been accessed last year, but not bank details and it found no evidence that fraud has resulted from the breach. british gas, the country's biggest
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energy supplier, lost 3a0,000 customer accounts in the uk in the first half of the uk. that represents around 270,000 customers. centrica's chief executive said the rate of customer losses had halved since last year and they hope to numbers would stabilise. his comments came as centrica said operating profits at its consumer business had fallen by 20% to £a30 million. we have had quite a challenging first half with very extreme weather patterns, rapidly rising wholesale energy costs, and against that the total margin has been stable and our operating profits broadly stable, down a%. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. here's some sport now with chris. murray comes back froma set down to win. he beat mackenzie mcdonald at the
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washington open, but showed real grit to go the 2.5 hours. he will play the british number one, kyle edmund, next. geraint thomas says chris froome was a true gentlemen when it became clear he had the best chance of winning the tour. thomas said it was anything but awkward. dame sarah storey is calling for a women's tour de france. britain's most decorated paralympian rode in the one day event but says she and others are ready for more. england's rochelle ‘rocky‘ clark has announced her retirement from international rugby. the 37—year—old prop, a world cup winner in 201a, won 137 caps during her 15—year international career. she's england's most capped player of all time. that's all the sport for now. see you later. thank you, chris.
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local council leaders have today published their own proposals on how to tackle the social care crisis after the government consistently delayed its consultation. the local government association says a desperate lack of funding has left care services at breaking point and they expect things to get worse, it says services could face a £3.5 billion funding gap by 2025. the organisation's green paper sets out possible options for plugging the funding gap, such as increasing income tax, national insurance and council tax, and means testing benefits such as the winter fuel allowance and tv licences. david simmonds, who is deputy chair of the local government association. alan long, who is the executive director of private service provider the mears group. and nadra ahmed obe, who is the chair of the national care association. thank you all forjoining us. david,
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what are your solutions? we need the national conversation going about this. when people talk about how to finance social care on love island, we know the message is getting through. we are seeing lots of talk in parliament. the/ —— the solutions are not new. do we raise taxes, do we restrict access to care, do we introduce new charging to finance it directly? we need to make the decision soon because many councils are getting close to the and future generations are to have access to the services they need when they needed, we need to put the many place. alan, you provide care services across the communities, give a sense of the challenges you face daily? i think the challenge is ultimately if you are to give a good service as a care provider, it only comes from having a good workforce which is fairly paid and has good career development. with the amount of
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money available for social care and home care, unfortunately there is a massive shortage of home care workers and those that are doing a greatjob daily workers and those that are doing a great job daily often find they cannot afford to stay as a home care worker, no matter how much they love it, which is why you see one in three staff, often more, leaving annually. you can imagine the impact that has on elderly people who are very reliant on those people on a date to day basis. skipp is a sense, if we are primarily talking about money, give us an idea of what those people are earning right now and what they would need to earn to be able to live and afford to stay in thatjob? able to live and afford to stay in that job? people often talk about how much they are paid per hour, living wage, which is what the majority of home care workers across the country are paid. people often
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forget the nature of the work, they are often only paid for the time they are in front of their customer and not the time they work between jobs. often a home care worker will be delivering a service first thing in the morning and is not paid through the morning until the lunchtime visit happens, which makes it very difficult for a home care worker. if you are a nurse in the nhs, for example, you will not only be paid for the time you stood next to the patient in their bed, you will be paid for a full day's work, that needs to happen within home care. it is notjust about hourly pay, it is being paid for a fair day's work. nadra, do you hear similar concerns? yes, the funding is most talked about and seems to ca ptu re is most talked about and seems to capture the imagination. if i can point towards the complexity of the people we care for, social care is not the cream teas society, we are
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looking after people with very complex health care needs, several complex health care needs, several complex health care needs. they were originally looked after by the nhs and they are paid three times more per week in a bed in a hospital, thatis per week in a bed in a hospital, that is what it costs, to what a ca re that is what it costs, to what a care provider receives. so if we look at that and talk about the reality of social care, we can have a conversation. as an association, as providers, we welcome open conversation so that the public understand what social care is. it is about very complex care. give examples? we used to look after people who were dying. anyone with mental health issues, confusion, dementia, they were all looked after in long—stay geriatric wards only about 20 years ago. people with
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parkinson's, stroke recovery, we have a plethora of people in our services. in an nhs setting, mrs smith needs care, the acute stuff is done, she is in a hospital bed, it costs £2125 a week. as soon as she is assessed as ready to go home, what we think as a society is that it is ok to offer the provider £550. the needs have not changed, take a £1000 for the acute, we are still underfunded. we then get legislative framework which is absolutely correct, let's raise the quality and put in legislation to make sure we safeguard people, absolutely. all providers are passionate about that. we are passionate about training staff and paying them. but it all costs. but then we do not follow
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through. this conversation has gone on for 15 years. providers are left out of the conversation. it will a lwa ys out of the conversation. it will always be... but the conversation is difficult, the second you start talking about raising taxes or, as one suggestion, taxing the over a05...? one suggestion, taxing the over 405...? if one suggestion, taxing the over 405. . . ? if you think you might need help going to the toilet, having a drink in yourold help going to the toilet, having a drink in your old age, it is in your interest to get this sorted now. what we are seeing is a situation where the canteen 's getting kicked down the road, the system has a £3.5 billion funding gap now, even with the examples we have heard, staff are relatively low pay, care packages without the resources they need, even in those circumstances we are £3.5 billion short, that has been taken from budgets that should been taken from budgets that should be funding things like libraries, road repairs and other vital services. it cannot carry on with that for much longer. we need the
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conversation that says will it be through tax raisers and, if so, what will they be? will it be particular pa rt of will they be? will it be particular part of the community paying? should it be through means testing, benefits that in some cases go to people back could afford to live without? but as a country we need to decide how we will do that if those issues are to be addressed and the syste m issues are to be addressed and the system will be there for people who neededin system will be there for people who needed in the future? that is a politically difficult decision to make, you will not want to be the prime minister or the political party that raises those taxes, that is probably why it is being kicked down the road? i think most people in society want to look after elderly people in an appropriate way. we have a free health system, we don't have a free social care system. we bandy these words around, health, social care, but foran elderly person in receipt of home care, the service they are getting
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from a home care worker is basically looking after their health and well—being. we looking after their health and well— being. we are looking after their health and well—being. we are in such a mess that we differentiate the two in the way we do and i genuinely believe, and speaking very personally now, most people in this country would wa nt most people in this country would want to support looking after the elderly and vulnerable in society much better than we do at the moment. i think most people in society would agree with the argument! society would agree with the argument i made earlier that if you are a home care worker doing but importantjob, are a home care worker doing but important job, you should are a home care worker doing but importantjob, you should be paid for the full time you are available doing the job. david, if we are talking tax rises, how much are we talking? we all hope it will not be us, but it is potentially worth a penny on income tax, a penny on national insurance, to get the system we need. things like council tax are not the solution, it raises such differing amounts around the country so the places that need the extra money can't get it through that route. a national solution is needed to make
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sure that across the country eve ryo ne sure that across the country everyone who needs the cat in their old age or because they are reworking a juggled with health problem or disability can access it. briefly, what do you think is the appropriate way forward ?|j briefly, what do you think is the appropriate way forward? i think it is funding itsy taxation equal —— it is funding itsy taxation equal —— it is funding it through taxation in equal amounts, but it is seeing which part of the health budget should be possible to do social care as well, we are delivering health ca re as well, we are delivering health care services and i think that needs to be looked at. and skilling our staff to the same levels as those working in the health care settings. i think that needs to be part of the mix of debate. i want to read a comment, rob on e—mail says i i want to read a comment, rob on e—mailsays i am i want to read a comment, rob on e—mail says i am a live—in carerfor a disabled man, i work over 100 hours a week but only get paid for 55 hours, that is the point that alan was making. i work 2a hours a
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day, seven days a week at the moment because the other carer is on sick leave because his partner has cancer. the la only pays £11 per hour but agencies charge between £18 per hour. i have no cover. we have been told if we apply for more money or hours the guy either cast it will be put into a home. i don't even have my own room. just a sense of the commitment from care workers. thank you all for speaking to us. death. it's often described as the final taboo — something wejust don't like to talk about. but a funeral comparison website says its london tube adverts have been banned because they're deemed too offensive. have a look at them and tell us what you think. this one's supposed to look like a holiday advert, talking about roasting temperatures and cremations. this one appears at first glance like a wedding advert, until you see the pink coffin. the idea was to capture the attention of commuters, and to encourage discussion and thought about planning
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for funerals, but the comparison website beyond is angry that the ads weren't allowed under transport for london rules, forcing them to run a more traditional campaign instead. ian strang is from the funeral comparison website beyond, which produced the banned adverts, and louise winter is a funeral director. she wants to encourage discussion about death but says the adverts are insensitive. thank you both for coming in. can you understand why some people may feel it is in bad taste?” you understand why some people may feel it is in bad taste? i can understand why people might think they are edgy, they are. they are not, to be honest, being cruel or
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mean, mocking anyone, they are not dealing with the very sensitive sites of death but they are deliberately edgy. edgy campaigns have been used to cut through difficult issues. we saw the domestic violence campaign during the world cup, the shocking image of the world cup, the shocking image of the bloodied mouth which opened a conversation. death is one of those industries where there is not enough conversation, there is aitor bunuel rounded. even earlier on the show today, when there is a taboo, that allows bad actors to operate. those bad actors are companies who take advantage of this in a weakened state. i accept they will be edgy but i feel it is necessary to open up but i feel it is necessary to open up the discussion. what are your concerns, louise? about my concerns are for the bereaved families i work with on a daily basis. —— bereaved families i work with on a daily basis. -- my concerns or for the bereaved families i work with daily. having to deal with people organising the cremation, if they saw this on the cheap they might be quite upset by it understand it is
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opening up the conversation, ijust don't think it is being done in a very sensitive and cautious way. don't think it is being done in a very sensitive and cautious waym that there enough? there are different ways to tackle a market. louise does great work with the death cafe, who have a similar ethos of opening up the conversation. but there are only so many people you can get to have tea and cake in a pub, you need to get it to the masses, and sometimes that needs a harder push. the stigma about death is so great that it needs a kick to get is talking about it is akin to the victorian attitudes about sex, a p pa re ntly the victorian attitudes about sex, apparently it never went on that babies kept appearing! a dying matters survey interviewed people across the country, the majority saidi across the country, the majority said ifeel across the country, the majority said i feel comfortable talking about death, i think my friends do, but they said that they thought the general public felt uncomfortable. everyone seems perfectly comfortable themselves but are scared to death about what others will think.
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louise, if you are sitting on the tube, maybe you are bored, you are not talking to anyone, you saw this at the corner of your eye, it might raise a wry smile and at least get you thinking, which is what ian is saying, we dismiss death, we do not wa nt to saying, we dismiss death, we do not want to talk about it because we are terrified? absolutely. providing you are not bereaved then you can have a sense of humour about it. i think some of them are really quite entertaining. but it brings up a bigger issue, as a society we need a way to talk about death in a healthy, supportive way that is emotionally intelligent. i am not sure these adverts are hitting badree metz but they are opening a conversation that people can hopefully have, in a really supportive way elsewhere. and transport for london has told us they never saw the original adverts submitted. they say their advertising partner
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shared the adverts originally proposed that the committee of advertising practice, which advised they were likely to cause offence. and in a statement they also said that: "running advertising that is seen by millions of londoners every day is a serious responsibility and our advertising partner was advised by the committee of advertising practice that the original posters proposed by beyond were likely to cause serious and widespread offence. our partner then worked with the brand to come up with a more acceptable campaign, which is now running on our network." can you see their point of view?” can see it partly, they took advice, but on the other hand that was advice. it was their decision as to what they ran with tfl. who is to say they are the arbiter of morality in this country? they have adverts for payday loans with 1250% interest rates, they have alcohol and gambling. everyone sees these on the tube, children included. why is humour about death and opening up that conversation worse than all of
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those products? i don't see it. talking about a cap, i don't understand why a small cabal of people can choose the morality of the country. what is their qualification for doing that? when you were brainstorming to come up with these adverts, you must have realised that using things like roasting temperatures when talking about cremation would potentially hit a nerve, was that the aim? definitely not to offend, but definitely to be edgy. there is a tradition, we were talking about the domestic violence one earlier, about having edgy campaigns to attract attention, to be honest people do not read about death. if you put an advert in the newspaper of people wandering through fields, half theresa may, half gladiator, people will not notice. you see something in the paper you skip to the next page, it needs something to jilt people. ifi people. if i geta people. if i get a hard time, so be it, i think it is a good thing. i appreciate you coming to speak to us. the education secretary calls it
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a scandal. more than a quarter of children are starting school in the uk without the ability to read simple words or even speak in full sentences. damian hinds has given a speech saying that people to start school behind their peers rarely catch up. educational researchers have long argued that the lack of social mobility starts at home. let's hear from the mobility starts at home. let's hearfrom the education secretary. it is a persistent scandal but we have children starting school and struggling to speak in full sentences. we have children who have hardly opened a book or have the chance to discover all the world that books introduce you to. and this matters, because when you are behind from the start, you rarely catch up. because your peers don't wait. the gap just widens. this has a huge impact on social mobility. at that speech was bob reitemeier, ceo of i can — a charity that aims to prevent children behind left behind because of
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speech difficulties. hejoins us from he joins us from central london. and from the frontline and sat with me now is kerry scott headteacher of ainsley wood school in chingford, where over half her students speak english as a foreign language. and from oxford we are joined by lynn knapp, headteacher for windmill primary school in oxford. i want to start with kerry, what do you think is the reason for these problems identified by the education secretary today? i think there are lots of reasons, and to put one silver bullets at it is not going to do thejob. as silver bullets at it is not going to do the job. as you said silver bullets at it is not going to do thejob. as you said in my intro, over half of our children speak english as a second language so we have a confluent —— constant influx of children in cities particularly, i don't know about the situation
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outside of london so much, but inside cities we have a constant influx of children with little or no english, they don't have learning difficulties necessarily, they have language issues. we have to teach them... or english issues, we had to teach them to speak english. then we have children with low communication levels, they come into nursery or early years, again with very low communication levels. there can be lots of reasons. even as simple as lack of guidance and support at home can be bringing that into school, it is ourjob to try to diagnose any issues or get them to where they need to be, because the expectations are the same for all children. lynn, would you say this is as simple asjust lynn, would you say this is as simple as just talk to your children all of the time, from the moment they are born, have a chat with them? i definitely think that
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families where talk is at the heart of family culture, children can do with a rich vocabulary which in turn gives them the skills they need to access reading and writing that the curriculum is so heavily towards at the moment. i guess the problem here, bob, is how can the government or anybody get inside those homes and support parents, without parents getting a sense that they are being criticised for being bad parents? absolutely, the last thing anyone should do is criticise parents, that is not the issue. the other thing is awareness of the issue, it is not as high profile as it should be, as it requires, for those children with a long—term persistent communication difficulty, that is 10% of the population, 1.4 million children across the country, they will not grow out of that on their own, they
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need support and parents need more information and advice about looking for signs of communication difficulty. lynn, what supportive parents need if their children are starting school and struggling? —— what support do parents need? we can look at how they are supporting children at how they are supporting children at home, we run family workshops to support developing language, developing reading skills. we can do those things in school to prepare parents, if you like, for the expectations we have in school that children will be meeting. when children will be meeting. when children arrive in school we can do assessments, decide whether they have got a necessity for maybe a quick intervention to fill in some of the gaps, but i think it is about the individual children and deciding what works for them. kerry, you might have parents that working severaljobs, that are exhausted, they may be single pa rents exhausted, they may be single parents or children —— or have children with different needs. they
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may not have time to sit and talk, read with children every night. how can you encourage that if they do not have the time? time is an issue for everybody but communicating with your children, is a necessity, something we should be doing all the time. even in those small moments when we get to be reading with our children, we know children whose parents read them a bedtime story have higher literacy levels. at any time back can be taken. but as lynn says, just talking, the rich conversation environment will help your children. learning to listen, speak and respond at appropriate times, that is all part of communication. and if thatis is all part of communication. and if that is the foundation for all learning, we have to find the time. bob, in the past have we put too much focus on preschool places rather than supporting parents at home when children are as young as two or three? there is an adjustment required to the balance. something
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the secretary of state talked about was use of technology, we had to go where parents are and use apps and technology appropriately. they are using smartphones, communicating with themselves and their children through that. we can use that to demonstrate through videos and prompts the importance of communication, that is a way of getting to parents in the home learning environment. lots of people are trying to fight to get ipads and phones of children rather than encouraging them, you wa nt rather than encouraging them, you want them to talk? (inaudible) .so want them to talk? (inaudible) . so often because people are so busy and are tired, it is easy to put them in front of the tv or with anipad put them in front of the tv or with an ipad and have a bit of peace. it is about trying every dayjust to do something with your children, talking. it does not have to be high—level reading, it could just be a conversation. and it is about as
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putting our phones down and talking to the kids. thank you so much for speaking to us today. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. you canjoin you can join annita you canjoin annita mcveigh. thank you for your company today. i will be back at the same time tomorrow. hello. certainly not good news for all but temperatures are rising as we move through the week, particularly in the south—east. a good deal of dry weather around, but cloudy skies and outbreaks of rain in the north—west, for northern ireland pushing into western scotla nd ireland pushing into western scotland and perhaps parts of cumbria. clear spells in the east of scotland, breezy in the northern half of the uk. sunny spells for england and wales, showers pushing into the west with temperatures in the high teens and mid—205, a
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maximum of 25. this evening and overnight rain becomes confined to the far north—west of scotland, clear spells, perhaps some showers feeding into south wales in south—west england, overnight temperatures between 11 and 1a. a good deal of dry and bright weather across england and wales tomorrow, perhaps more cloud in the west with one or two margaret showers possible. cloudy skies feeding from the south—west for northern ireland, western scotland and north—west england. temperatures creeping up a touch, highs of around 27. this is bbc news. our latest headlines: a damning report on international
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