tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News August 2, 2018 9:00am-11:01am BST
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hello, it's 9:003m. i'm chloe tilley, welcome to the programme the sister of a pregnant woman who was stabbed to death by her boyfriend, who has schizophrenia, says the family wasn't told that he'd been released into the community for visits. now the victim's commissioner is calling for more rights for the victims of offenders whose mental illness contributes to their crime. baroness newlove is here in the studio. people now check their smartphone, on average, every 12 minutes, according to a new report. we're asking whether parents being stuck to their screens actually harms children's development. it's a trap that you fall in, you know. you reply to a text message and the next minute, you are finding yourself checking your twitter notifications and then, you know, if you fall into that trap, time can go quickly. i do get that kind of, you know, should really be doing something with them, but i do really need to check my phone sometimes. it is, you get mum guilt for it. do you find yourself distracted by your phone when you know you should really be interacting with your children?
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do they tell you off for it? do get in touch. and we speak to a jewish woman who was only six years old when the second world war broke out and her family sent her away to save her life. now the grandson of the couple who took her in has tracked her down. they're both here to tell their story. hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until 11:00 this morning. are you glued to your phone? do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about — use the hashtag victoria live. if you re emailing and are happy for us to contact you and maybe want to take part in the programme. please include your phone number in your message.
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if you text, you ll be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today... calls for calm in zimbabwe after soldiers opened fire to disperse opposition supporters alleging fraud in monday's elections. three people were killed at protests in the capital, harare, after the electoral commission said the governing zanu—pf had attained a two—thirds majority in parliament. the result of the presidential election has still not been declared, but on wednesday the opposition leader, nelson chamisa, claimed victory. our correspondent nomsa maseko is in the zimbabwean capital harare. what is the situation this morning in zimbabwe, are the protesters back on the streets? they are not back on the streets today, it is relatively calm but there is still a huge presence of the military and police. a few minutes ago there was a truckload of police officers and the
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military carrying sticks, batons and firearms, pointing to people as they we re firearms, pointing to people as they were walking down the streets, telling them to behave themselves to day. that can be seen as a sign of intimidation and the military also trying to make sure the mayhem and chaos that descended on the streets of harare yesterday, remains calm today. according to police three people were shot dead yesterday, but from local media there is a suggestion that number could be even higher. remind us why people were out on the streets and why there is a delay in finding out who will be president? the main players are the incumbent president of the ruling zanu—pf party, who is trying to legitimise his rule following the military coup eight months ago. we
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have the mdc movement for democratic change leader, nelson chamisa. those are the two main contenders. what the electoral commission yesterday announced it was that the governing zanu—pf party had won by a landslide in parliamentary elections and that the mdc, the opposition, were saying they believed that result has been rigged. also agitated by the fact there has been a delay in announcing there has been a delay in announcing the presidential results and youths supporting the opposition party took to the streets yesterday protesting on the streets of harare. shortly after that, police were deployed and the military were deployed and that is when you saw gunshots going off, tear gas and the deaths of several people yesterday. the electoral commission is saying the reason for the delay in releasing the
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presidential vote is because they are still verifying and counting those and they want to make sure all parties involved are satisfied before they can make an official announcement. thank you very much. annita mcveigh is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the days news. good morning everyone. the bank of england is expected to announce a rise in interest rates later today — the first for nine months. members of the monetary policy committee are predicted to increase rates from 0.5% to 0.75% in what would mark only the second rise since the financial crisis struck in 2008. a man has died and two others have been injured in a stabbing on the same street in south east london where a teenager was shot dead in may. the men were found on warham street in camberwell yesterday evening. two men have been arrested on suspicion of murder. we're becoming increasingly addicted to our smartphones, the average person now
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checks their device every 12 minutes. 40% of users now look at their phone within five minutes of waking up, according to a new report by the communications regulator, ofcom. it also found the number of calls made on mobiles has fallen for the first time ever. our technology correspondent rory cellan—jones has more details. we're going to make some history together today. 2007, and steve jobs unveils apple's iphone. 2008, and the first android phones are unveiled. what has followed, according to 0fcom, is a decade where we've become increasingly dependent on our smartphones. we're using them in all sorts of ways throughout the day, and three quarters of people questioned said they couldn't live without one. ten years ago, we had many different devices. we had mp3 players to listen to music. we had satellite navigation systems to take us around. today, all of that is compacted into one device, and now eight in ten of us own a smartphone, and really spend our entire lives on that smartphone.
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0fcom's research shows how addicted we are to smartphones. 40% of people check their phones within five minutes of waking up. the average person looks at their phone every 12 minutes, and spends an average of two hours and 28 minutes a day using it. butjust how to use them, where and for how long is still a matter of debate. i think it's made my life better, but children's lives worse. yeah. definitely anyone my age would be pretty dependent on a device, whether they're just walking around the city, to find their way around or to communicate with people. a few years ago, i'd have been sitting here admiring the view, and now i'm on my phone. so it's kind of swings and roundabouts, isuppose. one thing we're not doing so much and our phones is talking. the number of mobile voice calls has fallen for the first time ever. rory cellan—jones, bbc news. the leaders of northamptonshire county council have insisted they will protect vital services as they try to save £70 million. last night residents protested outside an emergency meeting
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where councillors discussed how to make savings. the conservative authority has already imposed spending restrictions twice this year. the governor of california has said firefighters are struggling to cope with the severity and scope of the wildfires devastating the region. jerry brown said climate change is causing the increasing number of fires. more than 90 areas are still burning in the united states with a further a0 in canada. 0ur north america correspondent james cook reports from california. this is all that remains of keswick, a little mountain community in northern california. it was evacuated in time, but police say one man did not heed the order. he was found dead amid the ashes. the fires, and the battle to stop them, rage on. so far this year, nearly 5 million acres have been scorched in the us, a million acres above the recent average. the governor of california says
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climate change is a major factor. nature is very powerful, and we're not on the side of nature. we're fighting nature, with the amount of material we're putting in the environment. and that material traps heat, and the heat fosters fires, and the fires keep burning. the worst blaze swept into the city of redding last thursday, with towering tornadoes of flame leaving death and destruction behind. more than 1,000 homes are in ruins. two young children and their great—grandmother are among the dead, and fire season is far from over. this is what happens when the force of a wildfire comes head—to—head with human habitation, and more than a century after the american west was settled, it shows the continuing danger of establishing a community on the edge of the wilderness. james cook, bbc news, in northern
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california. temperatures may break records across europe in the coming week with weather warnings currently in place across much of spain and portugal. the met office has issued the warning for tourists, especially children and the elderly, heading to europe, predicting temperatures between a0 and 48 degrees celsius on saturday. the current heat record for europe is 47.8 degrees recorded in athens injuly 1977. the national citizen service, a government run youth scheme, is not value for money according to councils in england and northern ireland. the project allows 15 to 17 year—olds to spend four weeks working in the community. the local government association says only 12% of eligible teenagers have taken part and it has cost £634 million. the government insists the scheme has improved the lives of 400,000 young people. if you happen to be visiting the eiffel tower anytime soon, you may be a little disappointed.
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the famous tourist attraction has been closed due to industrial action. workers are unhappy about a new booking system that has led to what's been described as "monstrous" queues. tim allman has more. the eiffel tower is iconic, a symbol of france. and millions come to visit every year. but this is the welcome you would currently receive. the tower is shut, staff are on strike. translation: i waited 20 years to come and it's closed. translation: i waited 28 years to come and it's closed. it's unfair for the tourists who come from so far. i have come from venezuela to see the eiffel tower. it's unfair for visitors, we may or may not come again because it's... we spent so much of my money, so it's not nice on the part of, for whatever reason they have the strike for, it's an injustice to visitors. this is the reason staff say they walked out. the huge queues snaking around
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the base of the tower. a new system has been introduced where people can pre—book a ticket online and choose a specific time slot to go up tower. different lifts have been set aside for different uses, and those who turn up on the day may have to wait several hours to get in. the company that runs the tower says the summer months are always busy, and waiting times have not increased. but unless an agreement is reached, visitors to paris may face either a long queue or no entry at all. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtage victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. let's get some sport. john is at the bbc sport centre. andy murray won overnight,
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how big a victory is that for him? it is, long expected comeback from andy murray. he didn't play at wimbledon because he thought it came too soon during his recovery process. his serve was looking good. he dropped the second set, came back to take the third. he has been out for 11 months with a hip injury before returning to action in june. hip injury before returning to action injune. he said this was his best when before he started playing again. johanna konta, fresh from her thumping win over serena williams, is into the third
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round of the silicon 0pen classic, a tounament she's won before, after she beat the american sofia kenin in straight sets. konta's struggled of late to recapture that took her to number four in the world rankings, but this run will serve as a real confidence booster. england cricketers have a lot of work to do when they resume against india this morning? yes they do. england will have to forget what might have been in a really strong position. and a word of warning, be careful how you celebrate — this wasjoe root performing his bat drop celebration against india a few weeks ago, with virat kohli watching on. well the india captain reminded him of that on day one of the first test yesterday. as he ran out the england captain. that was jonny bairstow, that wasjonny bairstow, in the runs at one point. superb straight hip. and then told him not to take the mick again, by mocking root‘s celebration.
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england were sitting pretty on 216 for three at that stage, but root‘s wicket sparked a collapse to 285 for nine. day one of women's british open is underway, the fourth major of the year on the women's tour. it teed off at 6.30am this morning on the east coast of england at royal lytham and st anne's. a little bit of rain expected on friday. this is the leaderboard. bronte law of england in an early lead in what is the fourth major five on the women's tour. plenty of action to come over the course of the coming days and we will have highlights of that as well on bbc two later on. victims of offenders whose mental illness contributed to their crime are ignored, forgotten and miss out on key judicial rights. that's according to a report
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by baroness newlove, the victims commissioner for england and wales. she's calling for those victims to be given the same rights and information as all other victims of crime, under the victims code. we can speak now to baroness newlove. and to yemi ilumoka, whose sister, abi, and unborn baby were stabbed to death by her boyfriend, who had schizophrenia. he admitted manslaughter with diminished responsibility, and was detained in a secure psychiatric hospital. and also with us, we have caroline fiennes, whose husband, james, was stabbed to death in april 2014 by a stranger with severe mental health issues. thank you forjoining us. baroness newlove, first, people will probably
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be quite shocked to hear that victims get treated in different ways. explain about that. victims of mental offenders that go into mental health institutions are different from prisoners, i call it a big and little peeved. they do not realise the support once the trial comes to an end is completely different. they get little entitlement is a victim of crime in the victims‘ code entitlements and by that, i mean that are different restricted level is and they have a 2—tier approach. restricted is where if they want to discharge or change anything, it goes through the ministry of justice. if they are unrestricted, thatis justice. if they are unrestricted, that is down to the health authority. and they don‘t have the help through the victim contact scheme as other victims of crime. help through the victim contact scheme as other victims of crimelj wa nt to scheme as other victims of crimelj want to bring gimmick caroline before yemi. —— to bring din. what
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happens to your husband, james? my husband was working in london and he was visiting his local tapas bar where he went every week as a wind down at the end of the day. a man came in and my husband james had never seen came in and my husband james had never seen before, they had no recognition of each other. and this man attacked my husband for absolutely no reason and stabbed him behind and then fatally in the heart. and james died. and throughout the process of getting justice for your husband, did you feel that you were listened to ask a family? we were lucky enough to have a very good family liaison officer who did keep is involved every step of the way with what was going on. however, every court date and appearance meant to take place was always put back or delayed. it took
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six weeks to even get james home because the man who killed him wanted to perform a second autopsy and get legal aid. after the sentence hearing a year later, everything went completely, we were not kept in the loop of what was going on. and then he was released earlier this year on the same day as his tribunal, which was a complete shock to the family, we had no idea he would be let out just under four years after taking james's life. baroness newlove, is the case at the moment when you hear stories like caroline‘s that there is too much emphasis on the perpetrator‘s needs than there is on the victims families? very much so and this report shows it is about their human rights, the offender‘s human rights and not the victim‘s and that is why this report is important. it is only
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a small amount of people, 122 on average, but they have their voices more silenced than the other victims. i am more silenced than the other victims. iam proud more silenced than the other victims. i am proud of this report and the victims i have spoken to are so and the victims i have spoken to are so delighted because they felt unheard. it is even more traumatic than the crime itself. we treat them ina than the crime itself. we treat them in a 2—tier approach. they have suffered a crime like any victim of crime but this report is completely different and that is what we have to stop and what the recommendations to stop and what the recommendations to government, and want to see changed. yemi, tell us about what happens to your sister. abi was the youngest of a family of five and she was 40 2008 when she was killed islington. 0n the 14th ofjune 2008, her partner lived with her, she was six months pregnant. and of course, on that day, we don't know what
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happened that related to this terrible crime, but all we know was that we just got a call, i got a call because i live in kent sol that we just got a call, i got a call because i live in kent so i got a call from the police saying all family members were to report to the hospital. and of course, when you make enquiries, everything starts to unfold. i think they had argued, i don't know. and of course, he decided... this happened in her kitchen, he hit her over the head kitchen, he hit her over the head kitchen bench. that wounded her senseless. and he got the knives out and he started stabbing her. the person i went blunt and he had the presence of mind to get the second out and he carried on and the stabs we re over 37 out and he carried on and the stabs were over 37 wins cash the first blade went blunt. it was a hot summer's day and she had the windows open and the neighbours knew her, she grew up there 40 years and the neighbours were hearing her screaming through the windows and they called the police and they told
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they called the police and they told the police, we know this lady, she is heavily pregnant, you must, now. the police turned up and when they got to the house, they knocked and the perpetrator waved them away at the perpetrator waved them away at the windows to say, go away, there is nothing happening here. the police insisted, sorry, sir, we are told there is a woman here in distress, we must see her before we go. and i think it was on the third occasion having waved them away that the police said, sorry, and they broke in and they broke down the door and they went upstairs and there was the horror of what met them in that kitchen. and as they we nt them in that kitchen. and as they went in, he got the knives out and he started cutting his own wrists. and the air ambulance were called and they worked on abi. she was really dead, but because of the baby, they did what they could to maybe try to save her, but it was not meant to be. she was lifted by
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air ambulance through her window to the hospital in whitechapel. and of course, they delivered the baby, already dead. and that was it really, they were both lost on that night. and for you as a family to go through the trauma of that, you then have to deal with the justice process , have to deal with the justice process, which can be difficult anyway. but how did you feel you we re anyway. but how did you feel you were dealt with as the victim‘s family? well, i mean, it was only after the event that you start learning the horrors of how the mental health system operates. after the event, all along, the police we re very the event, all along, the police were very good with their family liaison so they did their bit and you could not criticise the police. all along, we were told how they would prosecute the case. and of course, on the day, we don't have a hearing under the mental health
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because they are not fit for a trial so we because they are not fit for a trial so we have a hearing of half an hour. and we went along with what they told us as to how they were going to prosecute the case that on the grounds of insanity. and on the day of the hearing itself, you just heard the judge say, to be held indefinitely and should he ever be considered for release, he is to be deported because he is an illegal immigrant. but when you hear the phrase to be held indefinitely, we lay people and you automatically be the size of relief, thank god, because he was done for two counts of manslaughter. so that was the hearing and we accepted that judgment. we went about our business. even on that day of the hearing, i distinctly remember what the judge said. the cheek of the man, it looks as if he is already applying for a tribunal here to be released and we have yet to have the
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case. so that was on the day. and then of course, the hearing is 2009. and the following year, 2010, that was when the ball horrors started unfolding. because we collected into this scheme, victim contact scheme, i signed the form and everything. even up to 2010, i regularly e—mailed the victim liaison officer foran e—mailed the victim liaison officer for an update and everything was ok and still under lock and key. but out of the blue in 2010, i was on a train going to work in london and i heard my phone. i looked at e—mail and of course, just to let you know that they are going for a tribunal hearing. that is all you got. an e—mail, not a phone call. no phone call, no nothing. and prior to that e—mail, a few weeks ago, ike
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e—mailed foran e—mail, a few weeks ago, ike e—mailed for an update on this perpetrator, which i do all the time. she told me nothing was happening, all was good. then you get an e—mail out of the blue and you are telling me there is a tribunal hearing. i said, excuse me, what tribunal hearing? it gets worse. there were times when he was walking around the area where your family lives, and community business you are unaware of. through the investigations with our mp emily thornberry, we dog and we got a full report that unbeknown to us, with no risk assessment the family and no restrictions, nobody told us anything, it even the ministry of justice did not know anything, they had let him out secretly for nearly two years. he went to the local couege two years. he went to the local college not far from the family home in islington. 0n the days he could not go to college, he went to wood green town centre shopping or whatever they do there. and many other activities. this was totally
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unbeknown to us. so in theory, you or yourfamily could unbeknown to us. so in theory, you or your family could have come face—to—face with him. or your family could have come face-to-face with him. definitely, of course. it turned out my oldest sister, she worked for a company and asa sister, she worked for a company and as a consultant for selling baby food task that. and her catchment area was chase farm hospital and she we nt area was chase farm hospital and she went out once or twice a week. so she could have bumped into him on the grounds. baroness newlove, we listen to these stories, yemi articulately explained what her family have been through. people remember the trauma you went through, the personal trauma when your husband was murdered and attacked by a gang outside your home in 2007. you know the pain these families go through. it is just amazing there is not that support. what do you want to change now, what can be changed to make sure the
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support is therefore yemi and her family? the baseline is to treat everybody on the same playing field. and listening to yemi, in the sense of their three points. the victim liaison officers have to be trained, a small area, but they have to understand how the health authority is work. the prosecutor, whoever it is, has got to help the victims understand what that means, the direction from a judge. yemi is quite right in saying that is what you do remember. and it is up to the government, one of my recommendations is to put the national health within the victims‘ code so they can be re—addressed, they are accountable. because there isa they are accountable. because there is a postcode lottery because every health authority is different wherever you go and nobody seems to have taken responsibility. and this highlights if the government cannot make the national health set up, who are the victim is able to go and get that support from ? are the victim is able to go and get
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that support from? it is a very important document and i want the government to take all the recommendations for the sake of these families who are suffering because they suffer the same pain i am going through, but it is put in a different box and we have to change that and we have to change it now. caroline, what would have made a difference to you in the way that yourfamily was difference to you in the way that your family was treated, what would your family was treated, what would you like to see changed?” your family was treated, what would you like to see changed? i would like victims families to be kept more in the loop, we are just utterly sidelined like we are relevant. we have no control over a situation where our lives have completely imploded. me and my children, we were left overnight as victim is of this brutal killing. and we just felt completely hopeless, helpless. we just had no rights. no relevance, really. we felt that everything was all about the offender and his rehabilitation and care and his needs and ours were not ta ken into
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and care and his needs and ours were not taken into consideration at all. and that is shocking and it is wrong. thank you all so much for speaking to us this morning. i am very grateful for your time. breaking news reaching us now. northwest water supply united utilities say it has called off its hosepipe ban which was due to start on august of that. apparently because of recent rainfall, it has gone some way to helping with water supplies so if you are supplied by united utilities north west water, the hosepipe ban has been called off. still to come. a summer of solitude. we speak to some of britain‘s young carers about the loneliness they feel during the holidays. and we speak to a world war two survivor, whose parents made the ultimate sacrifice. time for the latest news — here‘s annita mcveigh there are international calls for
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calm in zimbabwe after three people we re calm in zimbabwe after three people were called during protests. it was announced the incumbent party, zanu—pf had won a majority in parliament. the result of the election hasn‘t been declared but on wednesday the opposition leader, nelson chamisa, claimed victory. the bank of england is expected to announce a rise in interest rates later today — the first for nine months. members of the monetary policy committee are predicted to increase rates from 0.5% to 0.75% in what would mark only the second rise since the financial crisis struck in 2008. we‘re becoming increasingly addicted to our smartphones according to a new report by the communications regulator, 0fcom. the average person now
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checks their phone every 12 minutes and 40% look at it within five minutes of waking up. but the number of calls made on mobiles has fallen for the first time ever. a man has died and two others have been injured in a stabbing on the same street in south east london where a teenager was shot dead in may. the men were found on warham street in camberwell yesterday evening. two men have been arrested on suspicion of murder. the leaders of northamptonshire county council have insisted they will protect vital services as they try to save £70 million. last night residents protested outside an emergency meeting where councillors discussed how to make savings. the conservative authority has already imposed spending restrictions twice this year. united utilities has called off the upcoming hosepipe ban. the band was due to begin on august the 5th. the governor of california has said firefighters are struggling to cope with the severity and scope of the wildfires devastating the region. jerry brown said climate
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change is causing the increasing number of fires. more than 90 areas are still burning in the united states with a further 40 in canada. more than 11,000 fire crews and 950 trucks have arrived to fight the fires, which have so far claimed six lives. that‘s a summary of the latest bbc news. let‘s get some sport now withjohn. we have a few problems connecting with sport at the moment so we will hear more from john in the next few minutes. interest rates are expected to rise today for only a second time ina to rise today for only a second time in a decade, so what will mean your finances? what will it mean in the coming months? we can speak to somebody from an asset management company. lucy, it is confusing to
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know how it will affect our day—to—day life, in reality how much are we expecting them to go up by on what will it mean for us in our pocket? we are expecting them to rise to 0.75%. so still at low levels but if you are a barrel, so mortgage or personal loan, the interest rate on that personal loan will rise on a variable rate. if you area will rise on a variable rate. if you are a saver, you should find more on your savings. things don't always follow with interest rates, many have fixed mortgages and savers don‘t always pass on the interest rate rise to us when we are trying to save cash? good point. if you are ona to save cash? good point. if you are on a fixed rate mortgage or a fixed—rate savings bond or something like that, you won‘t see a change until the agreement you are on wears off and then you will pick it up in
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your mortgage or increasingly attractive interest rate on your savings. we are talking a small amount in terms of this rate rise and what the bank of england will be signalling, any further rate rises will be gradual and limited because we have a lot of uncertainty. we still don‘t know what is happening with brexit, for example. still don‘t know what is happening with brexit, for examplelj still don‘t know what is happening with brexit, for example. i know the bank of england have said for some time they want to get back to a normal rate of interest rates because we have had them solo for a decade. what is normal these days? the financial crisis was a decade ago and we have not returned to what we would have regarded as normal interest rates. i don‘t know when we will get there, if we do see a
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couple of rate rises, it is dependent on the big uncertainties. there is brexit, world trade, we are ina there is brexit, world trade, we are in a globalised economy so these things can have a big impact on the decisions made by the bank of england and that is what the governors will emphasise. we will see rate rise is a little bit but there will be a lot of talk about any other increases being far off, gradual and small in number. lucy, thank you forjoining us and telling us thank you forjoining us and telling us about the interest rate rise expected later on. nearly three quarters of young carers feel isolated during the summer holidays, according to new research. the charities, action for children and carers trust, found nearly half of under 18s caring for a loved one spent more than four hours each day carrying out care duties, missing much of the holidays with their friends. and they say one in five young carers have never been on a summer holiday. so what would help them? let‘s talk now to martha mcmahon, and her ten—year—old son alex
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in belfast who has been helping care for his younger sisters, who have autism, for years. 13 year—old jack in surrey, who has been caring for his mum since his father died four years ago. also we‘ll hear from jennifer hamilton from action for children, who carried out the research. and emily cherry from the charity barnardo‘s, which provides respite services for young carers. jack, i want to start with you, if i can. 0na jack, i want to start with you, if i can. on a normal day, what are the sort of things are you doing to help around the house that your friends are not doing? i wake up, i wake my little brother up, i do breakfast. i make him brush his teeth, you get stressed and he goes to school. i go to school. i come back and i do our
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dinner. 0na to school. i come back and i do our dinner. on a bad day, where my mum has had a bad day, i do our dinner, i sometimes wash up the plates we have used. do you find it difficult tojuggle being 13, being out with your mates having fun and helping out at home? yes, the tasks are so big and so hard, but i love it. i don‘t spend as much time with my friends as i would like to, but, you know, i like it. what about schoolwork, do you find time to fit in your home as well? my school are liggett with children doing their homework. we do a home work club after school and i will go to that. but sometimes it is hard for me to
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stay long after school because i worry about my little brother and how he‘s doing and what has happened at school and if my mum has had a bad day, i want to get home as soon as possible to help her. do you ever get a break? it depends on how my mum is feeling. if she is feeling down, i don‘t really get a break but when she has her good days, i do get a break. jack, you are an amazing young man and you sound so much older than 13. stay with us because i want to bring in alex and martina. alex, like jack, you help your mum don‘t you? alex, like jack, you help your mum don't you? yes. tell me what you do to help her? whenever she is stressed i help her around the house and when she is at appointments i sit in the car with zoe and ruby.
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just explain a bit about your sisters, because they are twins, they are aged four and they have autism? my twin sisters are five years old and they have autism. what does that mean because sometimes it is quite tricky to know how they are going to react to things? zoe doesn't talk and ruby doesn't stop talking. which do you prefer? i love both of them. that is the right answer. do you sometimes get tired going to school and coming home and helping out that home? yes. is there anything you missed because i know, you gave up football practice and swimming classes so you could be around and help your mum out a little bit more? i gave up football.
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do you miss it? a wee bit. alex is an incredibly special young man, like jack to help you so much. he clearly is an enormous help to you? he is my rock, i couldn't do it without him. he's like my little shadow. even breakfast, lunch, dinner, bed time, appointments, trips in the car shopping, he has to be with me in the car because only is so difficult and i need an extra pairof is so difficult and i need an extra pair of hands. sometimes i cannot handle her and alex cannot handle her but we feel there should be some more support for alex tilley can have a break. i don't even think there is another break until august. lam there is another break until august. i am living for september to get a break myself. what is the difference
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for alex turing the school holidays compared to september?m for alex turing the school holidays compared to september? it is always hectic. in september you have the home work to help with, but during the summer he is turning friends away from the door. lots of his friends are out late, but alex has to be in to help me with the twins. when i am feeding zoe her dinner, alex is to distract her sol when i am feeding zoe her dinner, alex is to distract her so i can get the food in. ruby can be very emotional and doesn't stop talking. it is constant until they go to bed and thenl it is constant until they go to bed and then i don't get any sleep because we doesn't sleep and sometimes it wakes alex up. but he is very hands—on and he gives it his all. as a mother, we feel guilty for all. as a mother, we feel guilty for a multitude of things and most things we shouldn‘t feel guilty for,
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but do you sometimes feel bad that there isn‘t that help, that support and the break for alex?” there isn‘t that help, that support and the break for alex? i think what alex gray is now as he's getting older, separating the twins from the boys. a bit of normality. there is of that. action for children did ta ke of that. action for children did take him away as a reward for what he does do, but there should be more. jennifer, i want to bring you in to give us a sense, we have heard from jack and alex and what their lives are like, what did your report find? the report basically is evidence of what young people have been telling us for many years that the summer holidays are very difficult. it is a time for young people to recharge their batteries, go out with their friends and on holiday and come back in september ready to start. but they are not having the break, they are caring
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for a much longer period of time. their friends for a much longer period of time. theirfriends are going for a much longer period of time. their friends are going out on day trips and holidays and those things are difficult for families where there is disability and illness to deal with. the summer can become more isolating and more difficult for young carers. emily, do you think there is enough support for young carers, particularly over things like the summer holidays? six weeks is a long time anyway, but with those additional duties, they don‘t get the downtime? with those additional duties, they don't get the downtime? there is not enough provision, it is a postcode lottery. at barnardos we run around 20 services in the uk and help around 4300 young people. many do provide the brakes, the support for children and families in the summer period but there needs to be more investment in this area. there is a statutory right for young carers to be assessed and for local authorities to put in steps for
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their needs but we know how much local authorities are struggling with cut budgets and austerity to provide that support. jack, if you could choose anything, but just one hour jack, if you could choose anything, butjust one hour a week, what would you really like to do? just go out and have fun. do you ever feel like you are missing out with your mates? all the time, all the time. do they understand, they supportive and appreciate the added responsibilities you have?” appreciate the added responsibilities you have? i tried to explain to them what the young carer is and what they do and i do, but theyjust, they don't understand that i need to be at home more. but theyjust, they don't understand that i need to be at home morem must be difficult, emily, it is difficult for young carers because they have that responsibility at home, they want to be strong for their parents, but their mates don‘t even understand what they are going
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through so it must be isolated anyway. very isolating and as awareness grows, it is important to grow awareness in professionals and also in france. 0ne grow awareness in professionals and also in france. one thing that has been tried as a young carers id card for the professional side, to give ca re for the professional side, to give care the opportunity to present at medical appointments and at schools so people can understand what they are going through without retelling the story constantly. and children need to understand how they can support them as well so it is important we grow around this —— awareness around young carers. martina, do you think your relationship with alex has improved and you have got closer threw his support for you and a more intense relationship than a normal mother and son relationship? most definitely. alex sees me at my worst moments, which he should not, but he knows when i am stressed and he tries everything to help, but he is
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very emotional himself and went i am stressed, he is stressed and he gets worried. he worries a lot for his e, worried. he worries a lot for his age, but it does make us stronger. isn‘t that right? i have a couple of m essa g es isn‘t that right? i have a couple of messages from people watching at home. debbie on facebook, my 14—year—old daughter has become my ca re rs 14—year—old daughter has become my carers since my mentor health issues dettori are rated at i took an overdose and i ended up in intensive care. my teenage daughter has to monitor my education —— medication every day and i can only have one week‘s worth a medication each day. i often break down crying and she has to help hold me down and grabbed myself. she has lost the mother xinyue. my daughter is amazing to ta ke xinyue. my daughter is amazing to take on this burden, we are fortu nate to take on this burden, we are fortunate to have carers supporting this boat. this government needs to climb down from the ivory tower and allocate decent funding to support agencies that support my young carer
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who is my daughter. and mark is on twitter summing up what so many of thinking, jack is doing an amazing job. what a fantastic, empathetic and thoughtful kid. thank you so much, all of you, for speaking to us today, i am much, all of you, for speaking to us today, iam incredibly much, all of you, for speaking to us today, i am incredibly grateful, and alex and jack, you should be very proud of yourselves. thank you. coming up... 0therwise engaged, a new report reveals just how much time we really spend an hour smartphones. —— on our smartphones. lien dejong was only six years old when the second world war reached her home country, the netherlands. she was the daughter of a jewish couple, who made the ultimate sacrifice to save her life. they sent her away to be looked after by a secret network, who were risking their own lives to shelter 4,000 jewish children. one of those families took her in for good when the war ended. but a fall—out between lien and the woman she had come to know as her mother led
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to them becoming estranged. that was until bart van es, the couple‘s grandson, tracked lien down. now they ve formed an incredible friendship and he‘s written a book about her life. we can speak to both of them now in the studio. this is an absolutely incredible story, thank you so much for coming in. tell us first of all, your memories as a six—year—old girl when the war broke out. did you understand why you would being sent away? no. not at all. we were looking out of the window, it was nice weather. we saw planes coming over. and my parents said, it is worn out. and i never heard about it before. —— it is the wall now. it was quite a surprise and i did not know what was happening. so what did
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they say to you when you were sent away? my mother told me it was a secret. i went away for a while and i couldn‘t speak to my friends about it. and i was excited. i loved to go away for a while. i wanted to tell my friends, but i was not allowed. and one day, a woman came i had never seen and one day, a woman came i had never seen before and she would take me somewhere, i didn‘t know. and we had to remove the stars we were wearing with jew had to remove the stars we were wearing withjew on it. so i had to walk close to her so that nobody could see i did not wear my stars. and i went with her to quite another city. two unknown people. and i was
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there. that must have been terrifying as a six—year—old. there. that must have been terrifying as a six-year-old. it was, not at that time, but after a few days, i started crying. i did not stop any more. we walked in a park once and i was crying all the time and he cried with me. it was so good that he understood me. it was a good that he understood me. it was a good moment. and of course, during the war, it was notjust one family you stayed with, it was a large number to keep moving to stay safe. yes, yes. i had to go to about nine families. sometimes, just one night ora families. sometimes, just one night or a few days. a week. and some of them, i stayed for a longer time.
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some were very nice. you talk about very nice, bart‘s grandparents took you in and they essentially became your new family. after a while, yes. it was the only family i could be a child, i could live as a child and feel safe. and i asked them, can i come back? and after awhile, they yes, come back. and they saved me. first during the war and later on after the war. and after the war, did you allow yourself to think about what had happened to that very brave mother who had sent you a way to save your life? no, no. there was no time for it. life goes on at that time. you had to keep going on. going to school. seeing other
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people. building a new life. nobody knew. it is what i told bart, without a family, you have no stories. there is nobody you can share your stories with. my children asked, of course, and i have told them. but i didn‘t tell a lot. there we re them. but i didn‘t tell a lot. there were no people you could share it with. and there was a lot of stuff you were not able to share. you were welcomed back into bart‘s family, but before that, there was a time you in one household where you were raped? yes. i was in a family who had been evacuated. it was not safe to stay in the home. so we went to his brother and his brother used me
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all the time. and also, after the war. until i went away. at first, it started as a game. i was on his lap and he played with me and he was nice with me. so i loved it. and then he goes on and on. and he said, ijust then he goes on and on. and he said, i just wanted it. then he goes on and on. and he said, ijust wanted it. you liked it. so for the trauma at you had already been through and the trauma of the sexual abuse, the relief of being welcomed into bart‘s family must have been amazing. and for you, bart, did your grandparents ever tell you about this story? no, it was really never talked about. i think the resistance network were very reluctant to talk about what they had done especially because there had been a break with lien. they would just say, we were not
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brave, if somebody turned up at your door, you had to take them in, and that was as far as the conversation went. it was something we barely knew about as children. let's talk about this break. there was a time the relationship broke down with the people you had known as your ma and pa. what happened? yes, it was a bit difficult. my foster parents kissed me in difficult. my foster parents kissed meina difficult. my foster parents kissed me in a way that i did not like, not like a father does. and we never talked about it. and i went away for a yearand talked about it. and i went away for a year and then he said, come back, nothing happened. but we did not talk at all. so i don‘t know what kind of story is in the family, but it never was the same when i came back. it never became the same. and after the war, when i was 50, there
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was a break. and then my foster father died. and he ordered for me to be with the uncles and the ants and not to be with the children. and the court. it was not my name. i thought it was terrible. and afterwards, i got a letter from thought it was terrible. and afterwards, i got a letterfrom my foster mother and she did not want to have any contact with me. and that was terrible. i felt lost. to have any contact with me. and that was terrible. ifelt lost. not really lost, i was a grown—up. and she ordered that the other children must not have any contact with me. bart‘s mother always had contact. must not have any contact with me. bart's mother always had contactm must be hard for you to hear that about your grandparents that that happened. yes, my parents felt a little conflicted about my making
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contact with lien and writing a book because my grandparents were incredibly brave and they also gave a fantastically supportive childhood to lien. i think you really need to read the book to see how the break happened because it was notjust one incident, it is difficult to take a traumatised child into a family and lien clearly came back a very different person to the person who came in 1942. the book is called the cut out girl for a number of reasons. as lien kept a poetry book with paper cutouts throughout the warand the with paper cutouts throughout the war and the first poem with a cutout ofa war and the first poem with a cutout of a little girl, it is a poem written by her father and through that poetry book, you see poems by my relatives, by lien's family members. that is also a metaphor for lien's experience of being the cut 0ut girl from her own family festival in 1942 and feeling cutout from the world as a result of the
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trauma of world war ii and cutout again through this terrible row that happened in the family. it is also a happy story in the sense that lien andl happy story in the sense that lien and i are great friends and i think lien isa and i are great friends and i think lien is a happy person, which is quite something to say after everything she has gone through. absolutely, it is an incredible story and thank you for sharing it today, i am grateful to you for coming in. let‘s get the latest weather update, with melanie coles. it is humid day, but we are seeing contrasts in the types of weather. blue skies and eastern and central areas but further west, low cloud, it is misty and it is murky with outbreaks are patchy rain. you can see the extent of it on the satellite picture as it works up from the south—west overnight. through the day, some coastal areas hang on to much of this card for much of the day, but we should see a break—up further inland. eastern and
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central areas see the lion‘s share of the sunshine and it will be warm. temperatures are rising and we could see 30 celsius in the south east once again. cooler perhaps further north, but it is humid and temperatures are still the mid—20s. into this evening, a spell of prolonged rain through northern ireland which eventually edges into the southern parts of scotland. and another strip of rain edges into northern england. elsewhere, it is a dry story with clear skies and it will be muggy. temperatures no lower than 15 celsius. the area of rain that moved into northern areas of england overnight will act as a dividing line through friday. fresh airto the dividing line through friday. fresh air to the north of it. to the south, it remains humid. both sides see good spells of sunshine and one or two showers but largely dry. and once again, the south east is the favourite spot for the high temperatures, 33 celsius on the cards tomorrow. temperatures lower
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than the north but still respectable for this time of the year. into the weekend, pressure is building to the west. that will drag in air from the north west. the cooler direction so it squeezes out the humidity we have had for the past couple of days. it may take a while before it reaches the south east corner. a good deal of dry weather on the cards on saturday with one or two showers in scotla nd saturday with one or two showers in scotland and perhaps one or two in east anglia as well. temperatures still hitting 30 celsius in the south east and noticeably cooler further north. a similar story into sunday. perhaps more cloud through parts of scotland on sunday with the risk of showers, but elsewhere across england, northern ireland and wales, a good deal of fine and dry and bright weather and temperature is responding nicely with highs in london of around 27 celsius. hello it‘s 10:00, i‘m victoria derbyshire.
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are you addicted to your mobile phone? we check them every 12 minutes according to the latest report from the telecoms regulator 0fcom. it‘s a trap you fall in, you reply to a text message and then next minute you find yourself checking your twitter notifications and then you know, if you fall into that trap, time can go quickly. i do get that kind of, you know, should i really be doing something with them, but i need to check my phone sometimes and you get mum guilt for it. we‘ll look at the effect parents‘ excessive screen time can have on their kids with a group of mothers and their children. the national citizen service was billed as a chance for 15 to 17—year—olds from all backgrounds to learn team—building skills. but we will learn how the scheme is too expensive and underused. we‘ll hear from young people who‘ve been on the scheme and from the man who runs it.
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and how abstaining from alcohol in your middle years could heighten your risk of dementia. let‘s get the latest news with anita. there are international calls for calm in zimbabwe after three people were killed at protests in the capital yesterday shortly after it was announced the incumbent party had won a majority in parliament. the result of the presidential election still hasn‘t been declared but on wednesday the opposition leader, nelson chamisa claimed victory. correspondence brought this update. the main players are the incumbent president, nelson chamisa
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was trying to legitimise the military coup eight minutes ago and then we have nelson chamisa. those are the two main contenders and what the electoral commission announced was the governing zanu—pf party had won by a landslide in parliamentary elections and then the mdc, the opposition, were saying they believe that result has been rigged. also agitated by the fact there has been agitated by the fact there has been a delay in announcing the presidential results and units supporting the opposition party then took to the streets yesterday protesting here on the streets of harare unbend the military and police were deployed and that is when we saw gunshots going off, tear gas and the deaths of several people yesterday. now the electoral commission is saying the reason for
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the delay in releasing the presidential vote is because they are still verifying and counting those and that they want to make sure all parties involved are satisfied before they can make an official announcement. the bank of england is set to announce a rise in interest rates later today. members of the monetary policy committee are expected to raise the rate to 0.75% in only the second rise since the financial crisis in 2008. we‘re becoming increasingly addicted to our smartphones according to a new report by the communications regulator, 0fcom. the average person now checks their phone every 12 minutes and 40% look at it within five minutes of waking up. but the number of calls made on mobiles has fallen for the first time ever. the leaders of northamptonshire cou nty the leaders of northamptonshire county council have insisted they
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will protect vital services as they tried to save £70 million. protesters were outside a meeting as councillors discussed how to make the savings. they have imposed spending restrictions twice already this year. united utilities has called off its upcoming hosepipe ban. recent rainfall has helped replenish the water supplies. it had you to begin on the 5th of august. that‘s a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30. lots of you getting in touch about the use of smartphones and whether we are on them too much when we should be paying attention to our children. grandma in bristol has said, this weekend my granddaughter playing with her dad who has her weekends. although they were having fun, at1.i heard hersay, get off your phone. he did and it shows a year olds are aware. margot says, i
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am glad about this topic of mums checking their phones. i was in my doctor‘s waiting room and with three lovely children was paying so much attention to have phone and she ignored them all the time. they seemed resigned to it. it‘s so precious time when children are young. is that you? it is probably all of us to some extent at some time. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag victoria live. if you re emailing and are happy for us to contact you and maybe want to take part in the programme, please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you‘ll be charged at the standard network rate. iam i am informed john is there with the sport. england will be hoping to edge towards 300 when they resume against india injust under an hour from now. but they have just one wicket left and stand at 286 for nine. patrick gearey is at edgbaston for the second day‘s play, patrick it could have been so much
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better and it all seemed to turn on thatjoe root runout. it was all going so well, joe root and jonny bairstow, two yorkshireman on yorkshire day, look set for centuries. then it all turned on the run out. excellent piece of fielding by the indian captain to run out his opposite number. virat kohli performed the drop celebration. it is the first sign of a bit of labour between the two teams. it sparked a familiar english batting collapse. jonny bairstow was the next ago followed by joss butler, jonny bairstow was the next ago followed byjoss butler, followed by ben stokes and then the tail after them, one after another. and all—too—familiar scene and england ended up on 285—9 and that is not
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the score they would have hoped for when they decided to bat. it shouldn‘t be the score they are on, given where they were in the afternoon session. don‘t hold your breath for too many runs this morning it is sam curran andjimmy anderson at the crease. we will see a first look at the indian batting line—up. they haven‘t always performed in english conditions, it isa performed in english conditions, it is a typical english morning, gloomy. virat kohli, global superstar of the game only averaged 13 in his last test series in this country. a few people will be hoping he doesn‘t get too many runs today, given that celebration yesterday.” wonder if there will be another mike drop. patrick, thanks very much, live at edgbaston at the start of play. in what was a battle of the brits, andy murray proved his recovery from hip surgery is going well after beating kyle edmund
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at the washington 0pen, in what was just his fifth match of the year. he won over three sets in the second round. this was him on his way to taking the first set in a tie break, he dropped the second but came back to take the third. murray sidlined for 11 months with a hip injury before returning injune missed wimbledon becasue it came too soon in his recovery. johanna konta — fresh from her thumping win over serena williams is into the third round of the silicon 0pen classic, a tounament she‘s won before, after she beat the american sofia kenin in straight sets.. konta‘s struggled of late to recapture that took her to number four in the world rankings, but this run will serve as a real confidence booster. that‘s all the sport for now. on this programme we‘ve often reported on how much time children are spending on their phones or tablets and how it might be affecting their mental health or their development, but a report out today by the uk‘s
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communication regulator, 0fcom, suggests british adults are also spending an extraordinary amount of time on their phones. in fact, it suggests the average brit checks their phone once every 12 minutes, and one in five of us spends more than 40 hours a week online. as a result, there‘s growing concern that parents aren t spending as much quality time with their children as they should — it‘s called technopherence and experts suggest children‘s development is actually being harmed because mums and dads are distracted by their screens and don t properly engage with their children. in a moment we‘ll speak to some parents and to the uk director of care for the family who‘ve recognised this issue. they use this animation help highlight the problem to the parents they speak to. i‘ve got two boys who are ten and eight and a little girl who is five. listening to your children can be quite a challenge and making space to do that properly, especially after a busy day, i come in from work and there‘s a whole load of things still going through my mind. hangovers from things you are dealing with in the day that are still bothering you. you might be sitting there, they may be even asking the questions but your mind isn‘t really engaged. i think that‘s even more of a danger
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with e—mails on them. you don‘tjust close the door on the office and say goodbye, the office kind of travels with you and the issues travel with you, often. it was a saturday morning and i think an e—mail had come through on my smartphone from work. it was always going, it never stops. i was looking at my phone and i could hear my son asking me a question about, i think it was about whether he could go out to the park. and i heard it, but i didn‘t respond, i wasn‘t really listening. and then after i‘d done that e—mail, i think i got drawn into facebook or twitter. you know, he asked me this question a couple of times and i said, i won‘t be a second i‘m just doing this. and when he asked me again, i snapped back and i said, can‘t you see i‘m busy? and the thing he replied that really woke me up, he said you are a nicer person without your iphone. and that really stopped me in my tracks and i turned it off.
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it is really hard to understand, especially some of their fears, is what strikes me, our children who had a thing about going upstairs by themselves, as you can imagine if there is a massive panic because you realise they are upstairs by themselves, it‘s quite difficult. but just saying it‘s irrational and turning them off isn‘t working, that doesn‘t help. we‘ve got three children and when they each want to talk, and they can be quite different. one of my children just loves going for a walk. he really loves walking and talking. my other child would hate that really. that‘s not what they are into, they really want to do something, practical. yet a lot of good conversations can come off the back of doing something together. so i think i‘ve got to understand that and hopefully, you understand them when they are little and you can carry on understanding them as they get older and notjust be miles apart
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by the time they‘re adults. so how big an issue is this for parents? 0ur reporterjohn 0wen went to find out. most of us have a sneaking suspicion that we should probably spend less time glued to our phones. but evidence suggests that for parents, cutting down on screen time could be all the more crucial. that‘s because paying too much attention to apps at the expense of direct interaction with the child could be harmful to their development. we asked some parents out enjoying the sun how they handle life with kids in an age when smartphones are a constant presence. i have to be conscious of putting the phone away on the other side of the room, making sure there is daddy baby time, you know, when i get home from work. i try to avoid having it around him. especially in his crib or cot, his bedroom area or when you are feeding him, i try to kind of remove my phone and have it on aeroplane mode
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as much as possible. yeah, so, we tend to have dinner and then afterdinner, we tidy everything away, we know it's our time, then bath time, story time, we don't have phones and i do say no phones or tablets and if i see them on it, they know they've done something wrong. but for these parents, having the discipline to switch off can be a battle. it‘s a trap that you fall in, you know. you reply to a text message and the next minute, you are finding yourself checking your twitter notifications and then, you know, if you fall into that trap, time can go quickly. i do get that kind of, you know, should really be doing something with them, but i do really need to check my phone sometimes. it is, you get mum guilt for it. you get made to feel guilty for it. you've got to find the balance. sometimes, you will be with the kids for ages and sometimes you've got e—mails and work stuff that comes in, so it's more work life integration, you know? it‘s definitely discipline. try and remind yourself that it‘s a bad thing, and you should be focusing on your child. so, for many parents it‘s a case of fighting on two fronts.
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trying to limit the time their kids spend on attention—grabbing devices, whilst finding the willpower to put their own phones aside. hannah clarke is a mum of two who writes a blog on parenting. she says she‘s recognised her phone use is affecting her parenting ? she‘s here with her four—year—old son, toby. elise mendelle is a mum of three, in the studio with her two sons ethan ten, and max, eight. she also has a 14—year—old daughter katharine hill? uk director for care for the family who speaks to parents across the uk about this issue. you have two macro children, are you
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on your phone too much? mike bowden isa on your phone too much? mike bowden is a black hole for my attention. i have an online blog and i run an online business so with technology so fast, a lot of that can be done from my phone and it is too easy preparing dinner or making a drink to say, ijust have to check this e—mail check what a customer has ordered and it is too easy to do it. it is quite difficult. does toby notice? you sometimes say to me, won‘t you, if i am on my phone, mummy, i asked for a drink. and i am like, oh, you did, i have not done it, what an awful parent i am! you don‘t complain generally, do you? i don‘t complain generally, do you? i do try and separate work time and time with the children, but if you see a notification pop up and you are doing something, it is so easy to get sucked in. toby, is mummy on her phone a lot? you can and so honestly! a little bit? would you
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like your mummy to put her phone down a bit more? yes, play together a bit more. every child run the country is nodding. elise, can you identify with what we are hearing from hannah? definitely, it is hard to create a good balance between using your phone and responding to work e—mails or messages coming in. and equally paying attention to the children when you are meant to be switching off. so it is definitely, i think, every parent's challenge and juggling is quite a difficult thing. with or without the smartphone. i think that presents an extra difficulty to have to deal with. is your mummy on the phone too much? no, but sometimes when she is doing with work things because she works with social media so it might bea works with social media so it might be a problem to stay off sometimes. do you get frustrated? yes. my kids
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say to me, mummy, can you do whatever? i say, say to me, mummy, can you do whatever? isay, i say to me, mummy, can you do whatever? i say, i have to do this work e—mailfirst whatever? i say, i have to do this work e—mail first and i whatever? i say, i have to do this work e—mailfirst and i hear the, huh! if my mum is on the phone like this, i say, huh! if my mum is on the phone like this, isay, i huh! if my mum is on the phone like this, i say, iasked huh! if my mum is on the phone like this, i say, i asked a question and she ignores me because she is deep in herwork and she ignores me because she is deep in her work and i she ignores me because she is deep in herwork and i have to she ignores me because she is deep in her work and i have to asked three times before i wave in her face and get her attention and she gets a bit mad at me. the first time your mum asked you to brush your teeth in the morning, do you do that insta ntly? teeth in the morning, do you do that instantly? no. i had as my children about 11 times do anything. that is probably the time to ask for some chocolate, she won‘t notice! is your mum on her phone a bit too much, max? no, but she used to be. but then she read this book about how to break up the difference and she was spending a lot less time on her phone. what a difference due notice,
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when was she on the phone before that she is not now? yes, but she still is quite often on the phone. and it is quite frustrating when i tried to get her attention and she doesn‘t notice. tried to get her attention and she doesn't notice. tell us about this book that you read. so, it was recommended, it is called how to break up with your phone. it was brought to my attention and a lot of people said it was life changing. she details how addictive it is and a step—by—step she details how addictive it is and a step— by—step process she details how addictive it is and a step—by—step process of turning off your notifications. breaking those habits which are ingrained deeply. partly because the makers of the apps and social media programmes, they are basically designed you'd —— design to get you to keep checking and to get that gratification from that. once you break that process, your usage can decline and you do notice a
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difference because your anxiety levels when you are not checking go down a bit. when do you put the phone down now when you didn‘t used to? it teaches you... you are checking a lot less. i have turned off the notifications so that it is not constantly pending. i was in a situation where i received a message, i was out with a friend and i told her about this book and i was just about to respond and she said, well, this is exactly the situation well, this is exactly the situation we are talking about. we don't need to respond straightaway. i said, you are absolutely right. it is those situations where you realise, just put it away and it becomes a habit to put it away and you don't need it as much, which i think is really important. how damaging is it, catherine? let's acknowledge the technology is here to stay and there is so much that is positive about it. the ease of communication,
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information at the touch of a screen. information at the touch of a screen. but if we are not giving our children that face—to—face contact, they are going to be missing out. so there is a really important area of child development called attachment theory and it is about the responses we have when they are little. we smile at them, they smiled back. it forms the blueprint for them of how relationships work, it lets them know they are loved and lovable. if we spend more time looking at the screen we spend more time looking at the screen rather than in their eyes and making them feel valued and loved, that has some effect. there is also some reality that you have two very little children and you do sometimes at home really liked that stimulation. you love being with your kids, but that stimulation is something you can get whether it is on whatsapp or going on social media sites, it can give you five minutes of escapism. yes, i suffered with postnatal depression and there is
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only 21 months between toby and martha said it was pretty hard—core. having my blog and the shop gave me that a change is to connect with people outside of the house. —— that trans. i‘ve found parenthood, as much of a challenge as it was, it was not stimulating my brain, so it was not stimulating my brain, so it was a way to have stimulation by challenging my brain and learning new skills. it is certainly a case of, i have these connections in my phone and sometimes, i need to speak to people who get it and to understand what i am feeling at a particular time or a challenge in parenthood and business, and that helps. and i know that people who breast—feed in the middle of the night, they are up in the night and they are feeling emotional and exhausted and still look at your phone and to know other people are up phone and to know other people are up feeling your pain... also, can it teach kids patients? joking aside, ethan said he has to asked three
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times for a glass of water, is that a bad thing for kids to learn because in this day and age, they expect everything immediately? well learning all the time in the home and at all events, we have got an event called left to their own devices, which is on this. we say that they are role models but they are learning from everything. we asked them to hang up their code for the 50th time! they don't. we think they are not listening but the truth is they don't miss a thing. they are learning from us, we are role models. and that is a great opportunity to learn patience and to learn we don't get everything straightaway when we don't need it, instant gratification is not a good thing, to delay that is to help them with that is a good thing. jack says an e—mail, i am 63, i am addicted to my mobile phone. watch any tv programme, am on my phone, i have to rewind it several times and one hour ta kes rewind it several times and one hour takes one hour and a half to watch. i have three conversations at the same time, my daughter is also on her phone constantly and she ignores
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her phone constantly and she ignores her children a lot, they complain co nsta ntly. her children a lot, they complain constantly. this says, we have all become too reliant on technology, children spent too much time on the xbox and tablets instead of playing out and walking in the fresh air. do you guys have time on a tablet? no. yes. 0h! you guys have time on a tablet? no. yes. oh! so, when our grandma died, she left us money and me and my brother and sister, we went to the apple store because we didn't have devices. so i bought an ipod and he bought an ipad. and my sister bought a macbook. when we got them, we was spending so much time that it was not acceptable so we had to download this app which tracks your use and we went over our limited time, we would get a punishment. we don't use our devices any more because it gets quite boring. meyer does use her
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device a lot. not too much, but she deleted the app because she did the block my mum did. so now she knows how to use it properly so she doesn't need to monitor her use any more. elise, juicy difference in their behaviour when they spend too much time and a tablet? we strategically hid their devices. it has been quite a few months and they haven‘t really picked it up. has been quite a few months and they haven't really picked it up.” has been quite a few months and they haven't really picked it up. i don't even know where the ipad is. good work, mum! these two a very active, they are outside all the time. we broke the habit with them and it has made a huge difference. they are not really glued to a screen at all. we have passwords on all the computers so they can‘t access them without is signing them on. they often asked for my phone, to use that. i let
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them use it very sparingly because i say, this is my device and you don‘t need to be sitting on a phone. for example, on the way here, we didn‘t use the phone at all. we just went in the carand use the phone at all. we just went in the car and we chatted. they are very interactive and talkative children. go on, max. we also have a ps for but we are only allowed to use that on friday, saturday and sunday. and i think that is a fair rule because if we were allowed to use it all the time, we would be addicted, and... we wouldn't get our homework done. could you come and live with me and give tips to my girls? the things you are saying of fabulous! thank you so much for coming in. fabulous. coming up... going teetotal in your middle years
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could actually increase your risk of dementia. a solicitor for a family whose relative was killed at the manchester arena bombing is demanding that all information about the suicide bomber, salman abedi, held by authorities be made public. it‘s after reports that abedi and his brother were evacuated from libya by a royal navy vessel in 2014. 110 people — mostly british citizens — were rescued because of the escalating civil war in the north african country. at the time of the rescue, abedi was not considered a threat by the security services. but he killed 22 people and himself when he set off a bomb he was wearing at an ariana grande concert in may last year. let‘s speak now to chris topping, who is a solicitor representing one of the bereaved families from the manchester arena bomb attack. and we also have raffaello pantucci, who is director of international security studies at rusi, which is a think tank on international defence and security.
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thank you, both. chris, tell us the concerns of the family that you represent about this information that has emerged. i think the major concern the primary has is that the information is stripping out and this information is clearly information they didn‘t have and the concern is that has already been a review by a very eminent qc, mr anderson, looking into what the intelligence services knew and disinformation seems to come as something as a shock and it comes out of the blue which compounds their grief and raises concerns as to what they actually know and what they are going to know when the information comes out through the media. do they feel a sense of being let down, that the media is finding this information out before they are, as families who have been so severely affected by this attack? yes, i think they do and one of
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their major concerns is that here we are in august 2018 and we really don‘t have any progress in relation to the inquest. and although there have been reviews, there is still no proper timescale for the investigation is to be got under way and for them to be given information as to what was going on before the attack and of the attack so i think they feel let down by the process and let down by the whole system. raffaello, was it an opportunity missed back in 2014 to see this man is to find this man and track this man? i mean, this is often the difficulty with these sorts of terrorism cases, which is that many years after the event, you may discover security services or the government apparatus had encountered this person previously but he would not have been of concern to them in the same way he was later and so it isa the same way he was later and so it is a question of, with hindsight, we can look back at the information and moments they had contact with him,
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they previously investigated him as pa rt of they previously investigated him as part of another investigation, but he didn't appear relevant so there isa he didn't appear relevant so there is a question about relevance and weather at that moment, it would have been something they could have done anything about, and whether that would have been appropriate. does the family you represent feel that this man was a threat back then and should have been tracked? we don‘t know enough of the information the security services had at that time to be able to answer that question. it is one of those odd coincidences that he is rescued by the navy in 2014 and until we know any more, we cannot comment on whether that is information they should have acted upon at that stage. is it highly likely there is a lot more information the security services have they are not releasing, that the families like chris are representing, would actually take comfort in hearing?m
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is probably the case the security services have a lot more information about this individual, like they do about this individual, like they do about lots of people. clearly they cannot tell us anything, but some families will feel this information should have come out? it is difficult to know. for a family who lost a difficult to know. for a family who losta memberof difficult to know. for a family who lost a member of their family in an atrocity like that in manchester, they will always want a clear understanding. there will always be the want for information but whether that will answer the question is difficult to know. these are difficult to know. these are difficult cases. why an individual makes the choice to commit such an atrocity is incomprehensible to those who are not involved in the ideology. is the information going to give people closure? it is difficult to note that it ever will.
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chris, what are you calling for now? the view of the families, the government should be setting up an enquiry to review the full range of intelligence available for the security services. we have had the anderson review which raises a peculiar question when mr anderson said if the cards had fallen differently, the manchester bomb might not have occurred. it begs the question as to what they knew and there should be an independent enquiry as to what the intelligence was available to them at the time. let me read the statement given to us by our home office spokesman. that during the deteriorating security situation in libya in 2014, border force officials were deployed to assist with the evacuation
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of british nationals and their dependents. thank you both for coming in. still to come... why david cameron‘s national citizen service is under fire. why david cameron‘s national citizen service is underfire. time for the news with anita. there are international calls for calm in zimbabwe after there were protests alleging fraud in the elections. three people were killed in the capital yesterday after it was announced the incumbent ruling party, zanu—pf had won a majority. but on monday, the opposition leader nelson chamisa claimed victory. four people have died in a crash in bradford this morning. it has been referred to the police watchdog. the
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bank of england is expected to announce a rise in interest rates later today, the first in nine months. they are predicted to increase rates to 0.75% in what would be the second rise since 2008. we are becoming increasingly addicted to our smartphones. the average person now checks their phone every 12 minutes 40% look at it within five minutes of waking up. but the number of calls made on mobiles has fallen for the first time ever. a rapper has been stabbed to death ona a rapper has been stabbed to death on a street in south—east london where his friend was shot dead in may. he was known as incognito and sk. two other men were injured in the stabbing in camberwell yesterday
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evening. two men have been arrested on suspicion of murder. the leaders of northamptonshire cou nty the leaders of northamptonshire county council have insisted they will protect vital services as they try to save £70 million. residents protested outside an emergency meeting where councillors were discussing how to make savings. the water supply of north—west england, united utilities has called off its upcoming hosepipe ban. recent rainfall has replenished the water supplies. the ban was due to begin on the 5th of august. the governor of california has said firefighters are struggling to cope with the severity and scope of the wildfires devastating the region. jerry brown said climate change is increasing the number of fires. more than 90 areas are burning in the united states with a further 40 in canada. 950 fire trucks have arrived to fight the fires which have so far
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claimed six lives. that is a summary of the latest bbc news. let‘s get the sport now with john. england have one wicket remaining when they get away against india and a two of the first test in the next half an hour. there was a batting colla pse half an hour. there was a batting collapse yesterday afternoon. andy murray says victory over kyle edmund is his best when since his return from injury. he is in the third round of the washington open. after beating serena williams, johanna konta has beaten sofia kenin in straight sets. she won this tournament two years ago and they run of the women‘s british open is under way. the fourth major of the year. play got under way at royal lytha m year. play got under way at royal lytham this morning and bronte law is one shot off the lead. that is all the sport now and we will have more from the bbc sports centre throughout the day. now there is a link of being
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teetotal in middle age and developing dementia in later life. the research in the british medical journal found those who drank no alcohol when they were 50 had 45% higher risk of developing the condition, than those who drank in moderation. we can speak to helen stokes la m pa rd, moderation. we can speak to helen stokes lampard, chair of the royal couege stokes lampard, chair of the royal college of gps and from cambridge by doctor david reynolds, chief scientific officer at alzheimer‘s research uk. explain what these findings are. this is a big study by a high quality research team. they have replicated findings we have seen have replicated findings we have seen before but if you drink a lot of alcohol it is bad for you, and the more you drink the higher your risk of dementia. if you drink safe
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limits, 14 units a week, spread out over a few days, you will have the greatest protection. those who have no alcohol do have a higher risk of developing dementia, but it is not a causation effects. just an interesting finding. i don‘t want people rushing out to start drinking alcohol to protect themselves. people will not be surprised that if you drink in moderation you are less likely to get it, if you drink too much you are more likely to get any health condition. but not drinking any at all, will make people think they should have an occasional tipple? there are things about alcohol that is badly, and if you don‘t want to drink, then great. but keep with in the safe, recommended limits and you are in the best place. the limits are up to 14 units of alcohol a week for men and women and a unit is a certain measured
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amount of alcohol. look at the side of the bottle or the can, they are on the side. i want to bring in doctor david reynolds as well. do you welcome this research today or are you surprised? this research helps to add to the understanding we have drinking alcohol through your lifetime and what impact it has on dementia in later life. it is good that it adds to the body of evidence that it adds to the body of evidence that drinking high amounts of alcohol can increase your risk of dementia. it is surprising to see that drinking no alcohol potentially increases your risk, but as helen mentions there are a number of other factors. the study didn't look at whether the people who didn't drink at all in their mid life where heavy drinkers when they were younger. or whether other factors come into play, people who are ill or who have health problems for other reasons,
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may be more likely to drink less alcohol and therefore it's not a causative link, butjust a correlation. do you worry as helen was saying, people may think i should start drinking, it is good for my health? people like to latch onto these studies to suit their lifestyle, dare i say it? this study is not a recommendation to start drinking. it is interesting to look at these factors and it helps to understand the impact alcohol can have on our lives. particularly as we are all living longer and we need to make sure we maintain our health, whether that is our brain or the re st of whether that is our brain or the rest of our body, into later life as a life expectancy keeps increasing. we don‘t know whether these people who have abstain from drinking where heavy drinkers earlier because it could explain that? it could be, or it could be they are unwell for
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other reasons and are on medication. they followed people from the 1980s, ask them lots of questions and it is high—quality research. but itjust adds to what we know. alcohol is only one of a whole range of factors in determining if you get dementia on. having you healthy lifestyle, not smoking, watching your weight are some of the things we can do to protect ourselves for the future. are some of the things we can do to protect ourselves for the futurem can be so confusing, in the media there is one report today and then there is one report today and then the next week it is saying something else. it is hard for the public to understand these mixed messages? we latch on to the one we want to hear, when we hear chocolate is bad for us we don‘t listen, but with they said it is good for us we would rush out and buy chocolate. you will get good, safe evidence from nhs choice, it isa good, safe evidence from nhs choice, it is a great distillation of the
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evidence presented in an accessible way. public health england and government websites which are intended to be helpful and straightforward. david reynolds, helen talking about the many factors that contribute getting dementia, what other ways should we be doing to protect ourselves and lead a healthy lifestyle to stave off dementia? the easiest thing for people to bremer is what is good for your heart is good for your head. everybody knows what is good for keeping your cardiovascular system healthy and that is taking exercise, a balanced diet and not being overweight and keeping your cholesterol and blood pressure in check and not smoking and drinking in the recommended limits. all those things reduce your risk of dementia. but also you need to keep your brain active. research is mixed, but i think what it shows, it doesn't matter how you keep your brain
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active, it helps to protect it as you get over. looking like a young black cloud coming yonder, it'll soon black cloud coming yonder, it'll soon go down? i see what it's one of those things make your brain work by exercising your body and keep it heavier. thank you so much, i appreciate both of you coming in. the national citizen service is a four—week holiday programme, designed to give 15 to 17 year olds the chance to try new things and gain skills. it was meants to be a lasting legacy of former prime minister david cameron‘s vision of a ‘big society‘, but councils have criticised it, claiming only 12% of eligible teenagers took part in 2016, despite hundreds of millions of pounds of investment. the local government association says that the money for the scheme, would be better spent locally on year—round services. well, back in 2011, when the scheme was being piloted, newsnight spent time with some young people, to hear their thoughts on the project. what i want you to do now is think about what happened when we were walking up here, maybe,
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while you were climbing... i think the hardest thing for me was that hill. laughter cos it's big and it's long. very steep. get that hill on camera! this group, all aged 16 and from south london, are on a week‘s outward bound trip is part of david cameron‘s national citizen service. you are meeting, like, strangers and basically you are going to have to trust them. like, what we just did is all about trust. and teamwork. it‘s like prison? yeah. in what way? the bunk beds, the rooms, there's no signal, you don't get no signal on your phones. do you good, some people would say. bit of a change. yeah, i know, but it's still boring. i love it. i can‘t work it out, whether you are enjoying this or not. oh, no, i'm enjoying it, i'm loving it. my friends, they would encourage me to do this,
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like that'sjust how i am. let‘s speak now to the man behind the national citizen service, michael lynas. he‘s the chief executive, who is also a former senior adviser to david cameron. richard, who is 19, has been involved with national citizen service. and also in westminster, baroness barker is a liberal democrat peer and as a critic of the scheme. and also, a 17—year—old, we are trying to connect with ivan as we speak. michael, first, explain the vision behind this and the sort of skills it gives young people. ncs isa of skills it gives young people. ncs is a programme mainly for 16—year—olds and it is the summer after their gcses and they have had their head in their box and it is an opportunity to do something positive
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for themselves, learning new skills and getting out of their town or city to experience new things in the outward bound locations, stretching themselves out of their comfort zones and they spend a week at university learning life skills like cooking a meal, financial literacy, quick speaking, that you might not learn at school and two weeks doing positive things for your local community, giving back. we think about, how do we bring young people from different backgrounds together for a shared experience at 16 so as you go into adult hard, you have life schools and you have met you friends and you can make a positive contribution as a citizen of the country? we have had almost 500,000 people take part, the first programme i helped found in 2009, we had 158. this year, it is 100,000, so it is big and growing and for the young people who take part, it is a great experience. richard, you have taken part, great experience. richard, you have ta ken part, what great experience. richard, you have taken part, what did you do?m great experience. richard, you have taken part, what did you do? it was probably one of the best experiences
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of my life because i did not go on holiday much. it was a way to relax and develop as a person. phase one was the outdoor phase and we were taken to was the outdoor phase and we were ta ken to dorset was the outdoor phase and we were taken to dorset and it was interesting to see a place i have never been and is to push my physical limits and to do things i did not think i was capable of. in phase two, we were at university and we had to develop our skills, my leadership skills and teamwork skills, and we went to a care home. it was a deep and special feeling because young people are not aware of the mental health issues people face. being taught that made me realise how big the situation is and what i can do to prevent that or make things better. so it was hugely worthwhile? absolutely, definitely. idid it worthwhile? absolutely, definitely. i did it change the direction of your life or give you a different perspective? many people have said it has a profound effect, interested to know. yes, the way the programme has even set up, you are introduced
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to be bought from different backgrounds and being able to have that social cohesion, it was amazing being new friends with people i would not necessarily normally meet. the teamwork skills was amazing and i could accomplish things i could not do by myself. the encouragement they gave you to push it forward, it is kind of like a lifetime experience and skill to have. ivan is with us. you have also done the course? yes. how was it for you? it was a really awesome experience for me because it was like learning new things and different experiences. how long ago did you do it? when did you do it? 2017, october. and did you do it? 2017, october. and did you make new friends? how did it benefit you long—term further injure life? benefit you long—term further injure life ? - -
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benefit you long—term further injure life? -- long-term in your life. i did not know many people in my area, some people joined from my school, but after attending the ncs, i got to know different people from different areas and a lot of people from my area as well. that was really good because now i can at least have new friends and learn new opinions and views. baroness barker, you are not a fan of this scheme?” have a number of criticisms of it, yes. can you outline that? it is quite evident that young people who ta ke quite evident that young people who take part in ncs have a very good time. there is nothing about ncs which is unique. there are other volunteer organisations which do similar things and they do them much cheaper and much better and i think have a much more lasting effect. the thing about ncs is, it is a very limited programme. the evidence base for it is extremely thin. and there has been no comparative research
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about its outcomes as opposed to other voluntary organisations. and it was set up by the conservative party to be deliberately apart from the rest of the voluntary sector and from schools and therefore, it takes away a huge amount of resources which could go into things like citizenship education and with longer established organisations such as the scouts and others who do have a very good track record of delivering good outcomes for younger people. it is just delivering good outcomes for younger people. it isjust expensive. let's get michael to respond to that. a number of points on that. we take our research really seriously, it is great to hear from young people who have benefited from the programme and richard of the programme two yea rs and richard of the programme two years ago and he is still engaged, he gotan years ago and he is still engaged, he got an apprenticeship through ncs and it is great to hear those stories which count for something. what about the point that this is just so expensive? yes, we do a lot
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of research and if anybody wants to go to the website, there is report after report from independent economists and analysts looking at the impact of this. to give you one example, an independent organisation looked at the impact on well—being, social anxiety is a big thing for a lot of young people, big problem, and also on getting into higher education and having those opportunities. it found a few of from the most disadvantaged won the backgrounds, you are 50% more likely to get into university if you do this programme. for every £1 spent, up this programme. for every £1 spent, up to £8 is flowing back into the economy and society because of ncs. if we were awash with money in this country, many people would say that is fine, the money it cost the government would be great. however, thatis government would be great. however, that is 95% of central government spending and new services. people will be saying, our local youth club
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has closed down, that table tennis centre, the libraries closing down. it is lovely for the people who get involved for four weeks in the summer involved for four weeks in the summer but what about by teenager who has nowhere to go on a friday night every week? ncs is a national programme being supported by all the parties, the conservative, labour party and other mps in the house of commons and house of lords and it gets nationalfunding. commons and house of lords and it gets national funding. local services are funded by local gunman and they have twice as much funding as ncs every year, but a lot of those services have been squeezed. i go to those services have been squeezed. i gotoa those services have been squeezed. i go to a lot of youth clubs and youth services where we see properly funded youth services sitting alongside ncs and they are both really valua ble alongside ncs and they are both really valuable for young people and they both do good things. for everybody listening to this programme, i think it is worth investing in the next generation and giving young people those year—round services and the opportunity to get away from home and to meet people from different backgrounds and to
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build that cohesion and confidence for the future, why not invest in the next generation? independent research says every £1 spent, you get a pound spent back in social return. kathy on e-mail says, my current —— my daughter is away currently and ncs but i am aware of the high costs associated with each participant. comparisons have been made with the cost per child of scouts but scouting and girl guides rely on girl —— volunteers so are very different. it would be good to enable more youngsters to take part but more volunteers are needed to achieve this. david says, and so glad you did a piece of ncs, it is a goodidea glad you did a piece of ncs, it is a good idea but it has been mismanaged. i was put under so much pressure to make some very vulnerable students take part that i resigned from my teaching role at college, it became too prescriptive and lost its value. on the first point first, the scouts is a fantastic organisation and young
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people should be doing more in their communities. we are partnering with the scouts now so the scouts can deliver ncs programmes. what about it being mismanaged, ncs? ncs has about 200 of the local organisations that make ncs happen, county councils, some schools and some youth clubs and we manage them carefully. where we have complaints of the 500,000 people take part, the majority have great experiences. from time to time, things like that happen and we take it very seriously. richard, you would recommend any teenager to get involved, because the take—up has been low? it is notjust a four-week programme, there are many things you can do after ncs. you can sign up to the youth board, i am doing an apprenticeship working with ncs. so the long—term value is worth it because there are a lot of things you can do after the programme. because there are a lot of things you can do after the programmem has certainly paid off for you. absolutely. thank you for you contributions. victims of offenders
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whose mental illness contributed to their crime are ignored, forgotten and miss out on keyjudicial rights according to a report by baroness newlove, the victims‘ commissioner for inland and wales. she is calling for inland and wales. she is calling for those victims to be given the same right and information is as other victims of crime under the victims‘ code. i spoke to caroline, whose husband james willstrop to death in april 2014 by a stranger with severe mental health issues and also baroness newlove. my husband was working up in london and he was visiting his local ta pas was working up in london and he was visiting his local tapas bar where he went every week as a waiter —— as a way to win down at the end of the date and a man came in who my husband james has ever seen before, they had no recognition of each other. and this man attacked my husband for absolutely no reason, he stabbed him behind and then fatally in the heart. and james died. and
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throughout the process of getting justice for your husband, did you feel that you were listened to ask a family? we were lucky enough to have a very good family liaison officer who did keep those involved every step of the way with what was going on. however, every court date and appearance that was meant to take place was always put back or delayed. indeed, it took six weeks to even get james delayed. indeed, it took six weeks to even getjames home because delayed. indeed, it took six weeks to even get james home because the man who killed him wanted to perform a second autopsy and get legal aid. after the sentence hearing a year later, everything went completely, we we re later, everything went completely, we were not kept in the loop with what was going on. and then he was released earlier this year, on the same day as his tribunal, which was a complete shock to the family, we had no idea he was going to be let out just had no idea he was going to be let outjust underfour years had no idea he was going to be let outjust under four years after taking james‘s life. outjust under four years after taking james's life. baroness
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newlove, is the case at the moment when you hear stories like caroline‘s that there is too much emphasis on the perpetrator‘s needs than there is on the victim‘s families? very much so, and even this report shows it is about their human right, the offender's and not the victim's and that is why this report it is very important. there are 122 people on average in the uk, but they had their voices more silenced than the other victims. baroness newlove. people getting in touch on the story that british adults are spending an extraordinary amount of time on their bones. john says, we don‘t need 0fcom to tell as this, you only need to be outside to see people always on the phone. if they have not heard backbone for 15 minutes, they feel they need to check. 99% of all chat on bones is useless small talk and probably the
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biggest time waster ever invented. ifi biggest time waster ever invented. if i was an employer, i would ban mobiles in the workplace. you would not get far here, i have mine with me. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. have a good day. good morning. heat is back on. for some of us, not all others. wherever you are, you will notice it is humid. some good spells of sunshine is essential and south—eastern areas of england. we have started to see cloud overnight into western areas and that will linger through coastal areas as we head through the day today. breaking up further inland with decent spells of sunshine and really, temperatures about 38 celsius in the south east. into this
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evening, rain is working into northern ireland and gradually into southern scotland. another area of rain is pushing into northern england as we head towards dawn on friday morning. even under clear skies, it is muddied with lows of 14, 15 celsius. the rain first thing tomorrow morning in northern england axe as a dividing line. fresh air to the north of it and more humid towards the south and east. it is here once again temperatures will rise, with temperatures back in the 30s and perhaps hitting 33 celsius. this is bbc news.
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