hello, it's monday, it's 9 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. welcome to the programme. rough sleeping will be eradicated in england within ten years, the government promises today. but since 2010, the number of rough sleepers has gone up every single year — so is it really achievable? we'll ask people who've slept rough, homelessness charities and politicians. i slept rough on and after for five weeks which was a very challenging experience. it made me grow as a person. i was hopeless for five yea rs person. i was hopeless for five years and it was very very hard. if you too have slept rough, tell us what you think is the best way to help people off the streets. a controversial pesiticide could be banned in the uk after this man won $290 million in damages against biotech firm monsanto — when chemicals in its weedkiller were linked to him developing cancer. since the beginning of this case i've received a lot

of support and a lot of — thank you — and a lot of of prayer and a lot of everything, and just got energy from a lot of people i don't each know, you know, and i'm glad to be here to help with this situation, after i learned about r0undup and the glyposate and everything, i'm glad to be here to be able and the glyphosate and everything, i'm glad to be here to be able to help, but the cause is way bigger than me. so should roundup weedkiller be banned in the uk? some farmers say that would drive up food prices. and on this programme a week ago — the parents of an 18—year—old who died on holiday in magaluf after falling 70 feet over a wall told us they'd been devastated by the response from uk authorities. we were shocked. it was unbelievable, absolutely unbelievable that at the most awful time in our lives, there was no one there to say, "this is who you need to speak to", no one there to guide you through the whole process. since that report other families who've lost young loved

ones abroad contacted us to say their experiences were equally devastating, and the authorities let them down too. we'll talk to them live in the studio after ten o'clock. hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. we want to hear your thoughts on rough sleeping today, as the government launches a new strategy which it claims will eradicate the problem within ten years. is that possible, or are the issues that cause homelessness too entrenched? have you lost your home and been forced to sleep rough, or has that happened to your loved ones, and if so what caused it? do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about — use the hashtag: if you re emailing and are happy for us to contact you, and maybe

want to take part in the programme, please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you ll be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today. a £100 million plan to end rough sleeping in england by 2027 is being set out by the government. the number of people on the streets has been on the rise for the past seven years, with almost 5000 sleeping rough each night in 2017. charities have described the strategy as a "step forward" but still some way from a "total fix". graham satchell reports. we are on the streets of east london with the homelessness charity st mungo's. 0utreach workers do this every night, checking parks, streets, doorways. this man, who didn't want to be identified, told us he had drug and mental health problems. he has been sleeping rough for four months. do you feel as though you're getting any help? i don't think i'm getting any help at the moment, no.

what will happen to you? what would happen, i don't know. i've been suffering. it's a bit tough, and it's quite hard, and it's quite scary, as well. if you could say one thing to the government, what would you say to them? i would say help the homeless, give them a chance to change their life. the number of people sleeping on the street has more than doubled in a decade. today's announcement by the government promises £100 million to end rough sleeping in england by 2027. it includes £50 million for homes for people ready to move on from hostels, and £30 million for targeted mental health services for rough sleepers. charities like st mungo's have welcomed today's strategy, but remain concerned about the causes of homelessness, like a lack of safe, affordable housing. what we're saying is that much more needs to be done. so it's a good start, but it's just the beginning, and actually to end rough sleeping by 2027 is going to take a lot more investment.

labour says government cuts to housing and services have caused the homelessness crisis, and described today's strategy as feeble. earlier the secretary of state for housing, james brokenshire, spoke to the bbc and explained how he hoped the new strategy would tackle the difficult issues which result in people sleeping on the streets. we need to support people into help. this is not about trying to stigmatise or to punish people because they are out on the streets, we know this is out of desperation, out of vulnerability and that is what is very firmly recognised within the strategy. it is about providing support, it is about providing support, it is about providing help and assistance, to get people into those elements of care, which will make the difference. break this cycle of people being out on the streets and thatis people being out on the streets and that is what ijudge is the right way to approach we will be talking about what can be

done and whether you think it will work. you can get in touch with the usual ways. the rest of the morning's news. news. joanna is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. police investigating a shooting in the moss side area of manchester are treating it as attempted murder. 12 people, including two children, were taken to hospital early yesterday, mostly for what officers described as "pellet—type" wounds. no—one's been arrested. is that it was a shot gun. initial reports came in of two bangs being heard and that was what our officers responded to, so at the moment we can't verify whether that was one, two or three at the moment, but we're certainly not considering more than that at this stage. delays at heathrow airport passport control left passengers queuing for up to two and a half hours last month. on 30 out of 31 days injuly, the borderforce missed its target of a 45—minute wait or less for 95%

of visitors from outside the european economic area. with us now isjenny kumah, who is at heathrow now. why has it been so bad, generally? the home off fits responses is that on 6thjuly the home off fits responses is that on 6th july when these the home off fits responses is that on 6thjuly when these delays happened, there were a number of problems, there were computer failure, large numbers of vulnerable adults an children arriving, so these were complex case, which took longer to deal with. it says that on the whole, though, passengers are dealt within their service standard but it does say that additional staff were being brought in, some 200 staff are being deployed over the summer, it says security checks are needed to keep the uk safe and for that reason, you know, this can hot be compromised. the reaction from the industry, there has been

frustration, the chief executive here has suggested that perhaps some passengers from countries he describes as safe, the united states oi’ describes as safe, the united states or canada should be able to use the electronic gate, instead of being dealt with on a individual basis which takes more time. airlines are calling on the government to deploy more resource, they say with brexit on the horizon, there is a need for the uk to present a good first impression, and for the uk to show that it's open thank you. passenger satisfaction with rail punctuality and reliability has fallen over the past decade, according to research by the passengers' watchdog, transport focus, and the consumer group, which? the government says it's investing in the biggest rail modernisation programme since victorian times. our business correspondent, joe lynam has the story. new timetables, thousands of cancelled services, angry commuters, strike action, and rising costs — it has not been a happy time for many rail users, and it is evident in a detailed satisfaction survey

over the past decade. a study of transport focus data found that overall satisfaction with rail punctuality and reliability has fallen from 79% a decade ago to 73% today, but regular commuter satisfaction fell even further to 62% in that time. on top of that, rail fares could be set to rise by 3.5% next year. that is because train fare increases are tied to the higher measure of inflation, known as rpi. it could add £150 to an average long—distance commuter. i understand that our passengers have had a really tough time over the last few months. i'm a regular commuter myself. but we have to work together, and with a long—term plan. that's what companies are doing, rail companies are doing. that plan is going to make journeys better over the coming years. it's going to improve the economy, it's going to better connect communities up and down the country. to compound things for some train users, another strike by rmt rail workers is set for next month, in a very long—running dispute

about guards on trains. joe lynam, bbc news. reports suggest at least 39 people, including 12 children have been killed and many are still missing following a blast that brought down a building in the syrian province of idlib. the building is said to have contained munitions belonging to an arms trafficker. idlib is the last major rebel—held area, and is expected to be the next target for syrian armed forces. turkey's central bank has announced measures to try to stabilise the country's plunging currency. the lira has been at record lows, amid a trade spat with the united states. lebo disekko reports. turkey's president stood defiant on sunday, telling supporters the fall of his country's currency was a political plot against turkey. as the event continued, he repeated a less than thinly veiled threat to a nato ally — the united states. translation: our response

to those who wager trade war against the whole world and include our country in that would be heading towards new markets and new alliances. despite the tough talk, the lira has continued to weaken. it's fallen 40% so far this year, against the us dollar. and as us president donald trump doubles steel and aluminium tarrifs last week, the lira drops almost 20% in a day. relations have been strained since the attempt to overthrow mr erdogan in 2016. and this is the man at the centre of the latest spat between the two countries. turkey's holding the american pastor andrew brunson over suspected links to that veiled coup and the us wants him back. on this president erdogan remains steadfast. they said "release the pastor" and gave until last wednesday at 6pm. if we did not release him they said they would sanction us. for ordinary turkish people,

the ongoing row has contributed to rising prices and savings that are worth even less. many small businesses have at risk and there are fears the currency woes could turn into a full blown economic crisis. the finance minister says a plan has been prepared for banks as well as small to medium sized businesses. he says he will share it on monday. turks can only hope it will be enough to calm the market, and give the lira a much—needed boost. presenter and campaigner katie piper has been revealed piper, who survived an acid attack ten years ago, was unveiled as the first contestant on bbc breakfast. it is for me really out of my comfort zone and it is not something i have ever done before so i was worried are, will i be the first to

go home, will i be dreadful. the first person i told was my husband, he thought that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30am. the government are promising to eradicate rough sleeping within ten year, john says, they though as much money as you like at the problem but you won't cure it. mainly because people rarely understand the reasons for it in the first place. something we are definitely going to discuss in the first part of our programme today. nick says there are many rough sleepers who need help and support, but there are also some who have had help and sup president port but can't cope with paying a normal life. some have had homes or been in hostels and chosen to go back on the streets, in these situations it is ha rd to streets, in these situations it is hard to know what to do. we will ask whether that is true. pete on

e—mail. what have the government been doing for the last ten years? megan on facebook, young people leaving care given a flat, or a room, often with to clue how to cook or manage bills or clean etc, end up in trouble, and isolated, and there is no support for them. thank you for those. keep them coming in. we will talk to various people in studio in the next few minute, people who have slept rough, representatives from homeless charities. you are very welcome to join the conversation, where ever you are in the country. get in touch, send us an e—mail and if you have a number and you are happy to join ounce the programme, put your number in the e—mail as well. let's get some sport. ben croucher is at the bbc sport centre. the european athletics championships are over. it's been quite the week for dina asher smith — so what next? next year the olympics in 2020, she

will be aiming for gold there. dina asher—smith the the world at her feet. she won the 100 and 200 relatively comfortably but new the relay she had to go in earnest, she took the baton in fourth place, she led from the front in the individual events, she is the first british athlete to do the sprint treble and the first since 1990 to do it. you are the third european athlete to win three golds. how does that feel really special. i haven't taken it in. it, idon't really special. i haven't taken it in. it, i don't know, thanks to these ladies for putting me in such a good position in the last leg. we came with the aim to win, we said there is no way we are going to let anybody else win. so thank you and great performance all round. how will you celebrate this? protein shakes. sleeping. sleeping.

while the men had to wait patiently while the women did their thing, when it came to their turn it never looked in any doubt. after the race the team were described as a family. just to give you a sense of how much ofafamily just to give you a sense of how much of a family they are, here is the women's team cheering on the men nearly an hour after their race, look how happy they are, gone are the days when you had to watch the relay behind the sofa for fear of them dropping the baton. and another gold for britain's qualified vet. yes, laura muir, she graduated with a degree in veterinary studies now she is european 1500 metre champion. she won the gold in a race she never looked like losing. she decided not to do the double due to an achines problem. congratulations to dr muir,

laura weightman took bronze, the three golds ensured britain finished top of the athletics table in berlin. mixed fortunes for britain's gymnasts. failure for max whitlock, not something we are used to. a mistake in the final where he ended up mistake in the final where he ended up standing on the pommel cost him. he ended up in seventh. missed out on individual gold in the commonwealth, he says he is on track for tokyo 2020. rhys mcclenaghan took gold. his gym closed so he had took gold. his gym closed so he had to train in his garden. dominick cunningh said winning gold are what dreams are made of. he tweeted in capitals your birmingham boy did it. great britain finished second in the

overall medal table. that is all the number of people who are sleeping rough on the streets of england gone up and up over the last seven years, and has now reached record levels. so what can be done about it? the government says it's got a plan — which it's launched today — which will eradicate the problem by 2027. it's going to cost £100 million. 30 million of that will be spent on tackling mental health issues and substance misuse, with a focus on spice, the synthetic drug that is a particular problem amongst the homeless population in some areas. 50 million will be spent building homes outside london for those ready to move on from hostels. and there will be a review of current laws on rough sleeping — currently it's illegal in england and wales to sleep rough or beg. let's talk to mhairi hopkins. and wales to sleep rough or beg. she slept rough in a park for several weeks and now lives in a ymca hostel in bournemouth.

as does ashley busby ? he's been homeless for 10 years. he was thrown out of his family home by his dad because he was gay. callum curry, who slept rough on and off for six years. also with us is george anderson who sells the big issue in central london. steve windsor — he works for a homeless charity but used to live on the streets. as did former rough sleeper jon glackin, who is now the founder of street kitchen, which provides meals for homeless people. we also have the chief executive from the charity shelter, polly neate, and the chief executive of crisis, jon sparkes. joining us from york is labour mp rachael maskell, who is one of the vice chairs of the all party parliamentary group for ending homelessness. and conservative mp adam holloway is in gravesham — he has slept rough for a documentary. thank you so much for coming on the

programme. i will start with people who have experience of sleeping rough like ashley, like callum, mhairi, george. most people will have no idea what it is like. how would you describe it to them? scary, really scary, you feel very on your own, don't know who you can trust when you are out there, you have many people judge you because of what you doing when you can be there for any reason. we get tarnished with the same brush, but eve ryo ne tarnished with the same brush, but everyone can be there for different reason, mental health, because of family break down, all sort, it is no necessarily because of drugs or alcohol abuse and things like that. where did you sleep?” alcohol abuse and things like that. where did you sleep? i was in kings park, a park in bournemouth. it is one of the big ones but i was there for a little while. where in the park? it was by a bowling green, it was where i felt safest personally because there was a building, so i

tucked myself in next to the building soi tucked myself in next to the building so i had a bit of shelter andi building so i had a bit of shelter and i felt safest there, it was dark, no—one could see me but there was a light so i could see people. wa nt was a light so i could see people. want about you ashley? it wasjust mad, i was scared, i don't know if people were going to spit at me when i was trying to sleep, pee on me, chuck stuff at me, beat me up. being 95v, chuck stuff at me, beat me up. being gay, people judge you for that as well. quite a bit. i have stayed under bournemouth pyre, park benches, i wouldn't wish it for my worst enemy to be homeless, never. it isa worst enemy to be homeless, never. it is a horrible place to be. what about you george? to be honest, i admire people being able to sleep. i do think it takes a lot of courage, for me, i'm trying to sleep rough, i was in london at the time, i saw people sleeping in door way, i tried to do it. i found it very difficult.

every bone in my body was saying stay awake. i can understand why people use drink or alcohol to try and knock themselves out, because your danger protectors are up. i spent a lot time walking about at night. i tried to look as if i was someone going somewhere, and, so that was my experience, it was very frightening i could see how people get paranoid and you certainly, your anxiety levels are up, and people use other things. you were stressed, presumably exhausted. yes, that is right. you were cold? i was cold, this was in the winter, i had no money, i saw this was in the winter, i had no money, i saw someone this was in the winter, i had no money, i saw someone selling the magazine, i started selling the big issue, i got myself £7 needed to get into a hostel, a backpacker hostel, so into a hostel, a backpacker hostel, so you into a hostel, a backpacker hostel, so you can into a hostel, a backpacker hostel, so you can get showered, your laundry, the semblance of normal

life, but, the experience itself was, it was something i was not prepared for. you know, and i don't know, many people, you, people often sleep in little groups, sometimes round churches and you don't know who you are sleeping next too, somebody who is maybe poorly managed or someone with an addiction problem who isn't sure what they are doing, in the middle of that you have to try and sleep and it is really quite difficult, you know. callum, hi. how are you? thanks for having me back. remind our audience about your experience? i suffered with homelessness on and off over a period of year, it was a recurring problem which i think is quite, on topic today. today. are you all

right i think i'm going to throw up. come back when you feel better. are you all right? yes, so, with on topic to say you are going to eliminate homelessness is idealistic because people's problems can be recurring, if you are going to have a problem you will have people come back and be homeless, to say you are going to eliminate that, is when i heard that, i thought, well, that will be interesting and secondly it's a culture, you know, i think i can probably say a bit because of i have slept within the community, there are some people there, in the towns i have been to that choose to be homeless, they like the tent lifestyle, they like the less responsibility, they get by, they have a community. that is genuinely you are saying that is a choice by some people? yes, not, a very small minority of the homeless community. but to say you can eradicate it... we will talk about that in a moment

and whether people think it is realistic. steve, hello. how are you doing? good thanks. so remind our audience about your experience? doing? good thanks. so remind our audience about your experience ?|j was homeless for four, audience about your experience ?|j was homeless forfour, five—week, i ended up sleeping in the woods, i was pucked up by an organisation —— picked up. they managed to house me, and supported me all the way through and supported me all the way through and now i end up working for them as and now i end up working for them as an outreach worker. right. how did you become homeless? just i was in hospital, with pneumonia, ifound my landlord had changed the locks and it is not the thing you can write as a script. my son and i turned up, my landlord was there, with the locks changing, that was it. people say you must have relative, friends, there must be someone you know who would put you up? yes, but, it's, to start off with it is almost

disbelief, you can get sofa suffering going for a while. you start to feel as though you are a burden, in my particular case my family lived a long way off, all my connections were where they were, it is frightening to walk away and leave them. you want to, to move up to lincolnshire where my father lived would have destroyed any links and hopes of getting restarted or thatis and hopes of getting restarted or that is the way i felt at the type. jon, so what about your experience? i had short periods of homelessness, i buzz squatting, a solution to homelessness, it is good. you would think we would be smiling today, very happy with the announcement of 100 million. the feeling i have got from groups talking, it is just words again, 100 million, they are talking about drugs and spice, in the last few years, the service has been cut by 160 million, so, i don't know, it is robbing peter to pay

paul. what is good about today, there are homeless voices coming out and speaking, and that is where the a nswer and speaking, and that is where the answer lies. there are solutions with could bring into place, if we don't involve homeless people who know what is happening on the streets we can't resolve anything. tory ministers meeting, a rough sleeper panel, there is few of those with experience of living rough or been through it, there is certain issues and demands we need to listen so. to be fair to the government, a lot of charities have been involved in this, in coming up with the strategy, you have had input haven't you poly. yes, absolutely, the government have listened to what we at shelter and others have said during the process, i think what. what is different about this strategy? i think there are some real practical measures and i think it is going to be focussed on looking at individual needs and what that individual person needs, in

order to escape from rough sleeping. but, i think picking up on what others are saying and people who have lived expense of this, there is a cyclical nature to this and frankly you can't solve homelessness without homes. and we have such a dire shortage of social housing, so for people who cannot participate in the market, by paying rent, paying market rents, there is a massive massive shortfall in the housing to put people into. i think sorry to interrupt, i think your charityjon says that 90,000 social homes need to be built each year and last year 5,000 were built, is that correct? that is right. to echo some of those thing, the plan, if you look at the issue through a narrow lens of how do you get people off the street with support it puts forward practical support do that. but...

sorry, go on. you need houses to solve homelessness, we think 90,000 social homes a year compared to the 5,000 last year and a benefits syste m 5,000 last year and a benefits system that covers the full cost of housing, without those two fundamental element, the rest of it lot be a sticking plaster. there is another massive underlying issue, the lack of rights for renters, finding your landlord has shut up shop an you have nowhere to go home to, that should not happen, and for a, as well as something doing something about housing benefit, and as well as just something about housing benefit, and as well asjust building, something about housing benefit, and as well as just building, massively more social homes, the other thing we feed to do is to stop people falling through the, you know increasingly sparse welfare safety net and you know, we have a situation now where the level of housing benefit doesn't allow people, even if they are working, to pay the lowest level of rent in

their area. that is another key issue as well. mhairi is back with us, are you 0k? yes. let us talk about some of the measures in the government's long—term plan, to try to prevent homelessness in the first place by offering swift support to those in a crisis situation. speed is obvious and is, no—one will disagree with that? no, that is right, if you get people off the street as fast as possible, and into mainstream housing, you stand the greatest chance, nothing is perfect, of succeeding. £30 million spend on mental health and substance misuse, including treatment for addicts of the drug spies. how big a problem is spice amongst people are homeless? it isa spice amongst people are homeless? it is a major issue, a lot of

people... it is not uncommon for people... it is not uncommon for people living with wider psychiatric issues to use drugs in some shape or form, sometimes it seems the only way they can put some happiness in our lives, or have some control over how they are feeling, you know? and spice has been a major problem, highly addictive, just knocked people out, make them rex, you know? we don't really hear about it, do way? in bournemouth? in bournemouth, the homeless people are more on crack cocaine, heroin. i've never really heard of spice.|j crack cocaine, heroin. i've never really heard of spice. i don't know what it is, personally, i am not going to lie to you. £30 million for spice and mental health services, but it is a separate issue to homelessness. they are closely linked, there is an overlap, but drugs and mental health services are

here, homelessness is over here. it is not specifically for homelessness, is it? i think is not specifically for homelessness, is it? ithink the idea is that if you can help people with mental health issues and put them on the right track and give them on the right track and give them the help and support they need... them the help and support they need. . . they them the help and support they need... they don't help us, though, i have got mental health, and i have been enhanced ball, and anyway, but what i've found is when it comes to moving out, it doesn't matter about your mental health. —— i have been ina your mental health. —— i have been in a hostel. because i am and 25, i can't get a flat, because i need to go into independent living and not go into independent living and not go into independent living and not go intoa go into independent living and not go into a room, because it makes things more difficult for you, because you are not moving forward, you are put in a room where you have to move on from there. presumably, the idea would be, not putting words into your mouth, you would want to get a job and move out of the

hospital? i have tried that. just explain what the worries are about getting a job, because what you are paying in your hospital is £1300 a month. paid for through benefits? but we have to pay on top of that. we pay £29. if we were to get a job, we would have to pay £1400 per month, we can't get a job that would allow us to pay that, it is ridiculous. we have to pay extra for the support, but if we go into work at the hostel, we can't afford the rent, so you get stuck in a bad loop. people think it is very easy to go out and get a job and sort yourself out and get out of being homeless, but it is a very hard thing to get out of, it is really hard. it is not discussed about enough, people don't understand it.

the conservative mp for graeme shinnie adam holloway, you can see him on the screen, thank you for your patience. —— —— the conservative mp for gravesend is adam holloway. is this rough sleeping a scandal? firstly, i'm not here to defend the government, if you want that, get the minister. we would love to talk to james brokenshire, but he has turned us down. i want to know what you think of the figures. you have got me on the programme because i spent a week living homelessness in february, three months back in 1991, and there is real similarities, sadly, scandalous similarities, from 1991 until this february, and that is that we still have hundreds, thousands of mentally yell and drug

addicted people sleeping on the streets of our cities. i am no great supporter of the prime minister, but i will tell you what — i think it absolutely remarkable that at last a prime minister, the mayor of london, eve ryo ne prime minister, the mayor of london, everyone is getting together to say that this scandal must end. so yes, it isa that this scandal must end. so yes, it is a scandal. why do you think the number of people sleeping rough has gone up every single year since the conservatives got into power, back into power in 2010? again, i appreciate that you take the opportunity to speak to probably the only mp who spend any amount of time sleeping rough, rather than treating me as sleeping rough, rather than treating measa sleeping rough, rather than treating me as a proxy government spokesman. iam not me as a proxy government spokesman. i am not treating you as a government proxy — because you have had that experience, because your party has been in power since 2010, it is perfectly legitimate to ask you why you think numbers have gone up. i am in you why you think numbers have gone up. lamina you why you think numbers have gone

up. i am in a good position to a nswer up. i am in a good position to answer eat you. in london, around 60% of the people living rough, and the figures demonstrate this, are people who were born overseas. when i was living in covent garden, i was sleeping under a church awning, near where mime artist are during the day, sleeping next to some romanians, italians. there are an awful lot of eastern european is. that is the reason for the big rise in london. but nationally this is a very complicated problem. yes, there isa very complicated problem. yes, there is a massive shortage of social housing, particularly for single men, but homelessness is a symptom of lots of other problems for people, you know, drug addiction, mental health, personality disorder, lack of accommodation for single men. in london, borrowed people,

people who don't have recourse to public funds. recently i had a family staying in my house in kent who were illegal immigrants, they have literally nowhere to go. it is also about the cost of housing, i remember staying in the doorway of a department store on tottenham court road, and there were people who had jobs, but in an economy, the gig economy, if you like, because there isa economy, if you like, because there is a shortage of housing, for some people, you know, they simply can't afford or don't choose to afford to pay these very high rents in our capital city. that is something else we need to think about. on that cost, 50 million in the plan is given by the government for people ready to move on from hostels and refuges, the average house in the uk cost £272,000, 50 million would get you 183 new homes. i'm not suggesting the government would spend £272,000 on every single

house, but it doesn't go that far, does it? again, you know, get a minister in, don't get me on the cheek to answer those questions, i can't answer that. what i do know is that in my constituency, i have been doing quite a lot of work at the homeless shelter here, but the real problem are mental health, drug addiction, and the real problem of finding accommodation for single men. on that list... absolutely, we need a hell of a lot more. on that list, you didn't include the austerity policies of the conservative governments — why? inevitably, cuts are going to have some effect, but i can only speak you are desperate for me to speak as a conservative spokesman. you are desperate for me to speak as a conservative spokesmanlj you are desperate for me to speak as a conservative spokesman. i am really not, i'm just trying to have a conversation with you about it!

all i can tell you is about my experience, my experience of being in my constituency. in central london, from what i came across, the scandal of mentally ill people roaming the streets of our city, spice, i was living by the goods—in entrance of mcdonald's by westminster cathedral, and you see the appalling effect of this stuff. and in the constituency, it is mental health, it is single men who can't find anywhere to move on. polly neate, you wanted to come in. quite a few points, but the most important thing, the money to help people to move on into new accommodation, as we add shelter understand it so far, that means moving people into accommodation thatis moving people into accommodation that is new for them — it is not about building new accommodation, so important to be clear about that. it doesn't mean it is not important,

but it is not about building new accommodation, it is about finding within existing accommodation and supporting people who have additional needs to move into it. the other issue, very quickly, and mental health, is that it is really important not to stigmatise people who sleep rough. that happens a lot, andl who sleep rough. that happens a lot, and i think it is partly because of these kind of stereotypes. now, there are people who sleep rough, many people, who have experienced severe trauma in their lives. we talked about being thrown at home because you are gay, for — a dramatic incident where people need support to recover from. but becoming homeless, particularly street homeless, but not only, so preserving and that experience of having nowhere to call your home, that in itself is traumatising, and what a lot of people need support with is the effect of that trauma in their lives. you talk at the

beginning of the programme about everybody who is sleeping rough being tarred with the same brush, judged. what do you mean about that? what kind of things? it kept coming up what kind of things? it kept coming up about mental health, drug abuse, young men as well, i completely understand men being on their own, but it is not only that — you get the males on the streets, young people, people from all sorts. —— you get females. people get kicked out of a flat they are renting because their partner died, and when they passed away, theyjust went literally no! it is a very hard thing, people can come to it at any point. could it happen to anyone? anyone on the streets, some do drugs, some don't drink, they are just homeless because... something happened in their lives. bournemouth council, when i went there plans to get where i am now, they said, you

are not a priority, even though i had mental health, i am are not a priority, even though i had mental health, lam not are not a priority, even though i had mental health, i am not a priority because i was over the age of 18. i have to be under a certain age to be housed. that is something that the government would say the homelessness reduction act is supposed to help with, this duty on councils to treat even single young men as a priority, notjust, for example, a mum with young kids. the homelessness reduction act is a positive thing, and the announcement todayis positive thing, and the announcement today is a positive thing, but without more homes for people to move into, genuinely affordable, they can't achieve their potential, these pieces of legislation under these pieces of legislation under these policies, unless we seriously invest in social housing. rachael maskell, you are a labour mp, part of the all—party parliamentary group for ending homelessness. what did your research suggest is behind this

rise in the number of rough sleepers each year? we have seen a doubling of people who are homeless, and that isa of people who are homeless, and that is a great concern, and we know it is a great concern, and we know it is government policy, the severe cuts that have happened to services, the lack of social housing being major components of this, and of course the whole insecurity around the labour market. everybody‘s journey is so different, and i think the thing that frustrates me is the lack of ambition from this government. they are talking about another nine years to eliminate rough sleeping when the mayor of manchester is saying that he wants to end rough sleeping in the city by 2020. whilst it is not the money today, only £12,500 per person who is homeless, it will only start addressing the real challenges that are facing all people who are homeless at the moment. your housing spokesman says the next labour

government would end rough sleeping within its first term by making 8000 homes available to those with a history of sleeping on the streets. where would they come from? this is out of the housing first policy which is based on an evidence base, and we have to build the houses that people need, and sadly the lack of social housing being built, the right to buy, selling off more houses in my city than it is building, social homes, it means we have a lack of supply, so we will build the social housing that is neededin build the social housing that is needed in the first term of the labour government. on facebook, someone says rough sleeping will never be solved when a country has sanctions in its welfare system. dave says, giving hand—outs is beating drug and alcohol abuse, there are genuine cases but a small percentage. —— —— feeding. maybe the migrant situation is not healthy. i am seeing you taking a deep breath

with that comment! everyone is being tarnished with the same brush. the hostel that i come from, 66 people inside the hostel, about 25% of them, maximum, drug and alcohol abuse, just because the government are giving us monied... abuse, just because the government are giving us monied. .. the others are giving us monied. .. the others are just normal people, some people don't even drink! it is so easy for commentators to point and individuals and say it must be their fault, they have a mental health issue, an addiction, it is an easy get out. every single case of homelessness is complex and personal, but every single one has a root in policy. if you create a policy like no recourse to public funds for people born outside of the uk, of course they will sleep on the streets. if you don't cover the cost of housing and welfare system, of course they will end up on the streets. this is the policy that

says if you are from outside of the uk, you are here legally, searching for a job, you don't get housing benefit. you could end up working and still having to live on the streets. each of these things come back to policy choices, and as polly says, what is being announced today isa says, what is being announced today is a positive step forward, but it is a positive step forward, but it is very tactical, very much about pointing at individual problems, and not about solving the root causes in policy. jess says, i think the strategy is a step in the right direction, but one problem is the unseen homeless people, people in temporary accommodation. i wonder if councils should have a duty towards all homeless people, not only those in priority need. sally says, if you are on benefits, you can't afford private rents, the cheapest one—bedroom flat in our town is £574 one—bedroom flat in our town is £574 on average, yet the council will only pay you £368. you cannot afford the top ups required, and i know a

lot of people who are not coping. i have got some more messages as well, catherine says, currently in temporary accommodation, i have been here for nine months, i have epilepsy and bipolar affective disorder, i am on medication and found it very difficult moving into accommodation. i haven't come across many people living on the streets, mostly living by the river thames. i have tried to help people living under bridges and in our local parks, to get them help, i even took one lady in my local park to the council. it is heartbreaking. more to come. some of these money from the government is going to be spent, is my understanding, and specialists who will go out into the streets, more specialist, who will go onto the streets and find people like yourselves who have slept rough and do what, take them where? navigators, that is the idea. 0ne

thing i should say is that so much money is being wasted within homelessness provision, in terms of bed and breakfast accommodation at exorbitant rates that are paid, £500 a week, people who have maybe lost their job, a week, people who have maybe lost theirjob, had a mortgage, you know, £600 a month, and they moved into accommodation where it is £1500 a month, you know, so the finances don't really work out. hopefully, if you prevent that shift into bed and brea kfast you prevent that shift into bed and breakfast and temporary accommodation, and the high charges associated with that, you save some money that could be fed back into the system. with the amount of money they are spending on people in temporary accommodation as well, our re nt temporary accommodation as well, our rent is £1300, which is a stupid amount. everyone in the hostel getting that much demand, we could all be funded to go to a flat and have independent living. instead of

the government paying 44 that where we are struggling to move on. they could use that money in a better way. —— could use that money in a better way. — — instead could use that money in a better way. —— instead of the government paying all that. i think it is obscene. the money is a factor within the service, that is for sure. callum, you said at the beginning of the programme that you did not think this ambition of the government to eradicate rough sleeping by 2027 was realistic. what does everybody else think, in terms ofan ambition, does everybody else think, in terms of an ambition, it is good to have this ambition, isn't it? it is right, andl this ambition, isn't it? it is right, and i understand the point about problems recurring, but our support should recur with those problems. we published recently a plan on what it would actually take, if the ambition was bigger, to end

homelessness, notjust to if the ambition was bigger, to end homelessness, not just to end if the ambition was bigger, to end homelessness, notjust to end rough sleeping, and all the comments made about the financials, absolutely right — we looked at the costing over ten years to end homelessness, just and £10 billion. the benefits to the economy — £26 billion. as well as being a story about human misery, it is also a financial story, and it would be better for the economy to support people who are homeless and support people who are homeless and support people who are sleeping, and stop it happening. it is insane,jon, are sleeping, and stop it happening. it is insane, jon, they are throwing money at a problem they created through austerity, through cutbacks, this old universal credit we have got coming in, which is going to cause a tsunami of homelessness. we are seeing more and more people coming to our services, and we have got a big problem, tory mps

labelling people as mental health, foreigners — it is people, people who are working, people like me and you, they need a step back up again. how did you slip through the net?|j don't how did you slip through the net?” don't know, but i got out of it, thatis don't know, but i got out of it, that is the main thing, people do get out of it. if there was going to the action, do what new zealand did, but all rough sleepers into shelter before christmas, let's have immediate action. there are plenty of empty buildings we could put back into use. graham says he would make rough sleeping illegal, well, it is, thatis rough sleeping illegal, well, it is, that is one of the things they will consult on with today's announcement. and open warehouses to house people, where they could be given work and paid and an address to apply for jobs, giving given work and paid and an address to apply forjobs, giving them a base to move on and back into society. ludicrous. when i was rough sleeping, the worst part of homelessness is not having the

shelter, four walls and a bed. if you are in a night shelter or emergency hotel, or even hostels there is a difference between a shelter and and a warehouse.” there is a difference between a shelter and and a warehouse. i did wince a bit, i agree with what you are saying, of course i do, but it isa are saying, of course i do, but it is a short step from warehouse to workhouse in my life, i didn't like the sound of it. the bottom line is, for me, this is good — it is a good start. what we would really need to see now is what is going to come next, and it has got to be around protecting people who are privately renting, having a benefit system that means people can afford somewhere to live, and then, you know, as we have all been saying, i don't want to sound like a broken record, but a massive investment in building social homes. rachael maskell, labour mp, adam holloway, conservative mp, what do you think about that new zealand idea? just

repeat it, jon. new zealand announced recently they would try to end rough sleeping by christmas — we need a direct statements that we will have nobody sleeping on the streets over christmas, even tomorrow. there are immediate responses we can put into place, empty churches, mosques, buildings we can put back into use. let's be brave about this. absolutely, we need to ensure we have ambition and nobody should be out on the streets when it is cold, but it is about permanent housing so people can rebuild their lives. that is why the policy which ran out across scandinavia to great success, people moving from the streets, not returning to the streets, and with all the support around them to move on with their lives, that is what we wa nt to on with their lives, that is what we want to see. adam holloway? yeah, one of the good things they do in new zealand is have what they call wet hostels, so that drug addicted

or alcoholic people can get in there. but look, let's not be mealy—mouthed there. but look, let's not be mealy— mouthed about there. but look, let's not be mealy—mouthed about this. what the prime minister has said is absolutely extraordinary, i have never had a prime minister in history say that the ambition is to end homelessness. you have got a councillor in westminster, the mayor of london, all these people taking this problem phenomenally seriously. but we need to take it seriously, in the sense that this is very complicated and very nuanced, and as was said at the outset, everyone needs to be treated as an individual, but the root cause of this is, of course, the lack of sufficient housing, but the reason that people end up on the streets are mental health, drug addiction and all these other complicated things. we really should give some credit to the charities on your programme and the prime minister and the mayor of london for at last taking the problem so seriously.

just to clarify, it is not a promise to eradicate homelessness — it is a promise to eradicate sleeping rough by 2027. ian says, i had to sleep rough for three months because i was told i did not qualify for help, sleeping on the streets of manchester opened my eyes to the scale of it, 90% of people have just had a run of bad luck, but for some reason every of these people gets called a spice head and is abused verbally, and at times physically by the civilised public. i was helped by other homeless people who looked after me. i have now found a job and after me. i have now found a job and a home, and that was with no support from the authorities at all, it was through the advice of other homeless people. thank you all very much for giving up so much of your time, really appreciated, thank you. thank you. do keep your comments coming m, you. do keep your comments coming in, iwould you. do keep your comments coming in, i would love to read so more and talk to you if you have your own personal experience. send an e—mail,

include your phone number, then we can get in touch. the latest news and sport at ten. also coming up, a new survey for the bbc finds that over half of british asian people feel they have to play down their identity in order to fit in. we will talk to a group of young british asians about the findings. all the weather now with carol. quite a cloudy start of the day, some seeing sunshine, rain in the forecast, showers blew the afternoon, driest conditions in the west, but if you are in shetland, once again today, you are likely to see the lion's share of the sunshine, like yesterday. in the radar, rain moving across us into the north sea, still across scotland and northern england, is scattering of showers across southern parts of the uk. many showers in the west will die off as this ridge of high pressure builds in, and that is why it is going to brighten up a touch in the west after a cloudy start day. also, drizzle across the

south—west, showers in wales, northern ireland, scotland, but rain across northern england fading, replaced by showers. the lion's share of sunshine is going to be across shetland, another beautiful day in prospect for you. rest of scotla nd day in prospect for you. rest of scotland mostly dry through the afternoon, brightening up in the west. for northern ireland, showers fading, some coming out, later more cloud, some of the showers across central and eastern england will be slow—moving, heavy and thundery. in the north, looking at the mid to high teens, further south we will get up to possibly the mid 20s. through this evening and overnight, we start to lose the showers that have been with us through the afternoon, largely dry in the uk with clear spells. the other thing you will notice tonight is that it is going to feel quite muggy, temperatures by six o'clock in the morning from about 12 in the north to about 16 south, the first signs of some rain coming in across the

0uter of some rain coming in across the outer hebrides and northwest ireland. that is a weather front that will introduce this rain through the course of the day, but by the afternoon, rain weakening a bit, still there but not as heavy as in the morning. for the rest of the uk, yes, cloud around, but equally sunny spells coming through as well. temperatures again in the northern half of the country looking at 15-19, half of the country looking at 15—19, as we journey southwards up to about 24. on wednesday, a lot of dry weather in the east with sunshine, cloud building through the day, this weather front rejuvenating, bringing heavy rain across northern ireland, scotland, northern england, into western part of wales. ahead of it, highs into the mid, possibly higher 20s. behind it, back into pressure conditions. —— pressure conditions. is hello, it's monday, it's ten o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. the government's promised to eradicate rough sleeping in a new strategy announced today.

they are going to spend £100 million tackling the issue they say. we've been speaking to people who have slept rough, to homelessness charities and politicians about whether they think the goverment‘s plan can work. it is really scary, row feel very on your own, don't know who you can trust when you're out there, you have many people judge you because of what you're doing when you could be there for any reason. we get tarnished with the same brush like someone has said already, everybody can be there for different reason, you can be there for mental health reasons, because of family reason, it is not necessarily alcohol or drug abuse. if we don't involve homeless people who know what is happening, we can't resolve anything. tory ministers meeting, there is very few of those people with experience of living rough, or being through it. you can't solve homelessness without homes and we have such a dire shore tang of social housing so for people who

cannot participate in the market by paying market rent, there is a massive, massive shortfall in the housing to put people also this hour, a new survey for the bbc suggests that over half of british asians feel they have to play down their identity in order to fit in. have you toned down your identity to fit and is the government failing the families of young people who die abroad? 0ne mp is chairing a cross party group which is calling for a full review of foreign office procedures. this comes after we broadcast this interview last week with the parents of an 18—year—old who died in magaluf. we discovered, really to our horror, that there was no support, you didn't — there was no support officer came in, no liaison officer, you know, there was no—one who then followed up after they left. we're joined by other families who

feel that the government let them down after their child died abroad. good morning, it's ten o'clock. here'sjoanna is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the day's news. the government has vowed to end rough sleeping on england's streets by 2027. it has promised £100 million "to help people turn their lives around", including support for mental health and addictions, and funding for housing. homelessness has been on the rise for the past seven years, with around 4,750 people estimated to be sleeping rough on any given night in england last year. earlier, the secretary of state for housing, james brokenshire, spoke to the bbc and explained how he hoped the new strategy would tackle the difficult issues which result in people sleeping on the streets we need to support people into help. this is not about trying to stigmatise or to punish people because they're out on the streets. we know this is out of desperation, out of vulnerability,

and that is what is very firmly recognised within the strategy. it is about providing support, it is about providing help and assistance, to get people into those elements of care, which will make the difference. break this cycle of people being out on the streets, and that is what ijudge is the right way to approach it. police investigating a shooting in the moss side area of manchester are treating it as attempted murder. 12 people, including two children, were taken to hospital early yesterday, mostly for what officers described as "pellet—type" wounds. no—one's been arrested. the turkish lira has recovered slightly after the country's central bank announced measures to try to stabilise the country's plunging currency. the lira collapsed amid a deepening trade and diplomatic spat with the united states. stock markets have been falling across asia pacific as investors become increasingly concerned over the turkish currency crisis. reports suggest at least 39 people, including 12 children have

been killed and many are still missing following a blast that brought down a building in the syrian province of idlib. the building is said to have contained munitions belonging to an arms trafficker. idlib is the last major rebel—held area, and is expected to be the next target for syrian armed forces. delays at heathrow airport passport control left passengers queuing for up to two and a half hours last month. on 30 out of 31 days injuly, the borderforce missed its target of a 45—minute wait or less for 95% of visitors from outside the european economic area. passenger satisfaction with rail punctuality and reliability has fallen over the past decade, according to new research. surveys by the passengers' watchdog, transport focus, and the consumer group, which? shows the proportion of people satisfied with those areas of train performance dropped from 79% in spring 2008 to 73% in spring 2018. the government says it's investing in the biggest rail modernisation programme since victorian times.

presenter and campaigner katie piper has been revealed as the first star to be taking part in strictly come dancing piper, who survived an acid attack ten years ago, was unveiled as the first contestant on bbc breakfast. it's for me really out of my comfort zone, and it's not something i have ever done before, so i was really worried, you know, will i be the first to go home, will i be dreadful? the only person i told was my husband, and that was through text message, and he just thought i was joking. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30. thank you for your comments about the government rough sleeper strategy. let me read some more right now. this is from stuart who says the government has created such homelessness with its policy, so

whatever they say, they will do the com plete whatever they say, they will do the complete opposite. they seem to take great delight in attacking the sick and vulnerable. they are building the wrong type of home, they hide behind figures saying they are putting more money into policies when in fact they are not. this government is a disgrace. tom says a great many rough sleepers are ex military, service personnel are ex military, service personnel a re often parted are ex military, service personnel are often parted from their friends and family, often losing their support links when they return to civilian life. the big drinking culture doesn't help those leaving the service and when leaving the service personnel have never had to claim benefit, pay bills or do normal things others take for granted. 0ften personnel leave having suffered traumatic experiences, and find it hard to adjust to civilian life. thank you for those. i have many more to read in the next hour. i will talk to you from round the

country. if you are happy for us to contact country. if you are happy for us to co nta ct you country. if you are happy for us to contact you put your phone number on the e—mail, you can send it to us. if you are tweeting use the hashtag victorialive. let's get some sport now. good morning. dina asher smith says it's all about moving to the tokyo 0lympics now, after anchoring the british women's relay team to gold at the european championships. it was her third of the week and capped off a golden end to the games in berlin. dina asher—smith has been making history fast. breaking the british record to win the 100 metres, beating the world champion to take the 200 title, and last night, with a little help from herfriends, becoming the first woman to complete the european sprint treble since 1990. asha—smith comes away, comes away by a distance. you never, ever know how relays are going to go, that's why everybody loves them, you don't know what's going to happen, so i'm so grateful and thankful for all these girls to put out the best, to represent our country and come home with a gold medal today.

honestly it's been so great. britain's middle distance runners were showing their strength too. laura muir dominating the 1500 metres, with laura weightman digging in for bronze. it's probably the most pressure i've been under, in terms of expectation to win, so it was something new for me. but i think i handled it really well and i'm just so thankful to all the support i've had back home and here as well. keeping count of the laps in the 5,000 metres is key. lonah salpeter losing track allowed britain's eilidh mccolgan to claim silver. misfortune struck germany, failing to reach the sprint relay final in the most painful way. suffering in this event is nothing new to great britain, but their luck appears to be changing. gold for great britain, a fitting climax. the men matching the achievements of the women, and securing top spot in the athletics medal table. nick parrot, bbc news. events in glasgow also came to a close, with gold in the men's gymnastics.

but not necessarily where you'd have expected. dominick cunningham won the floor title — and "what dreams are made of". but world and olympic champion max whitlock made a mistake on the pommel horse and missed out. gold went to the commonwealth champion rhys mcclenaghan — a fine achievement after a gym closure meant he had to train for the games in his garden. rather ominously, manchester city manager pep guardiola promised his side would get even better, after they started their season by winning 2—0 at arsenal. raheem sterling only returned to training last week after a busy world cup with england. he opened the scoring before bernardo silva put away the second. tiger woods' came close to a first major title in a decade — but it was this man — brooks koepka — who held on to win the us pga championship.

woods' final round included eight birdies — the crowd absolutely roaring him on. he finished two shots behind koepka, who took his third major title in the space of 14 months. that's all the sport for now. more just after half past. families of british people who ve died abroad have added their voices to calls on the government to offer better support for families in the aftermath of a death abroad. a week ago, we brought you the story of the channon family — 18 year old thomas fell 70ft to his death while on holiday in magaluf earlier this year. his parents, ceri and john channon, told us they'd been left devastated by a lack of support from british authorities in the aftermath of their son's death. they're not alone. some of our viewers got in touch to share similar experiences to the channons' — saying they'd been left in the dark, without help or assistance after the death of a loved one abroad. and an mp got in touch too — she's now chairing an cross party

group on deaths abroad, which is calling for a review of the way the foreign office handles such cases. we'll hearfrom her and a group of families who have been affected in a moment — but first here's a clip of ceri and john channon's interview with anna collinson from last week. there was a real thud at the door and i went out and there were two policeman there. i just felt something was wrong. you don't get policemen coming to your door if not. and ijust looked at them and i said, is it ceri or is it tom? and those horrible words, "are you the father of...?" as soon as he said that, i knew it was something really, really bad. and that really was it. you know, he came in, and i then had to try and break the news to his brothers. who are clearly then distraught, and trying to comfort them, but at the same time, you know, the policemen are saying, i had to contact ceri.

i'd had a missed call, so i rang straight back and it was just one of those things you don't forget, word for word, john said to me, "there's been a terrible accident. it's tom, and he didn't make it." and i couldn't believe it. i couldn't believe it. and i still to this day don't believe it. i still think it's bad nightmare and tom's going to come home. i think you can't believe you have got to make that call, and the other thing is, for me, i was just helpless. i could hear ceri on the other end of the phone, and you can imagine, how awful it was. 1300 miles away from their son, the channons were desperate for answers. they assumed this is where the british authorities would step in to help. we had no idea how, was it on a beach? was it a boat trip? did he hit his head? was it a heart attack? we had no information at all. the police officers who came

were absolutely fantastic. they were kind, caring and considerate. but unfortunately, when they had to go on, it was only then that we discovered really to our horror that there was no support. there were no support officer came in, no liaison officer. there was no—one who then followed up after they left. john and ceri eventually got through to the consulate for majorca but say they were made to wait for hours the support or information. they eventually found out the truth about tom's death through his friends. i think people watching would be shocked that that is how you were treated. and that you were sort of left... we were shocked. it was unbelievable. absolutely unbelievable that at the most important time in your lives, there wasn't somebody there to say, this is who to contact, and this is who will guide you through this whole process. sadly the channons aren't alone.

after we ran that report a week ago, several parents got in touch with us to say they'd expereinced similar treatment and we can talk to some of them now. claire fifield—moore is here. her son, james, was killed by a drunk driver in zante in 2014. julie love's son, colin, drowned while swimming off an island near venezuela on a cruise holiday in 2009. allenjohnson's son, will, died on holiday in ibiza in 2008. also here, hannah bardell, an mp from the scottish nationalist party. she is now chairing a parliamentary group set up to look at how the government deals with deaths abroad. thank you for getting in touch was, thank you for coming on the programme an talking to us, we appreciate it. claire, you didn't know how your son had died for about three months. not properly, no. tell

the audience what happened we had a knock at the door, 6am on saturday 5thjuly, 2014, knock at the door, 6am on saturday 5th july, 2014, by knock at the door, 6am on saturday 5thjuly, 2014, by two young pcso, community officers who came in and informed me that james community officers who came in and informed me thatjames had been killed op a quad bike and left me a telephone number for the foreign 0ffice telephone number for the foreign office on the top of a newspaper, they wrote it down. that was all they wrote it down. that was all they knew. james we on holiday with seven of his friends so we managed to co nta ct seven of his friends so we managed to contact one of them. none were with him at the time so it was speculation i had to write to many heads of department, the prime minister, william hague, iwrote heads of department, the prime minister, william hague, i wrote to theresa may, to try and find out exactly what happened. we knew james' inquest would be in october, but i wanted to know what had happened to hip. we couldn't have an inquest in this country without knowing the full story, so luckily, david cameron did step in and we got a report in the october a week before, but it was july to october and we didn't know, we had no

confirmation. cans you describe what that the fact you are grieving and the fact you don't know why this has happened, does to you? er, ithink now, in hindsight looking back, at the time, you don't know which way is up. that piece of information that you are given, changes your life forever. the not knowing made it so much worse. i mean it was greece, it wasn't the other side of the world, part of the eu, but we couldn't get hold of any information and it was, it was devastating. made it more devastating. julie, your son asi it more devastating. julie, your son as i said in the introduction colin drowned on a cruise holiday. who called you to tell you the news?” got a phone call from the captain of the ship that colin was on. and he basically give me details to contact

the embassy, the british embassy in venezuela. at that point i didn't know if he had gone overboard in the ship, ijust didn't know what had happened. i also found out that the ship colin was on had left the island and colin was still there on his own, and his friends were back on the boat as well. so, that was... just... how do you process a phone call like that? i mean, ithink every day you just go through that night, what happened, and... ithink for me, i kind of got angry, with how they were treating my son like this, why, why was, why were we let down so badly? and that's what keeps me going, do you know, ijust have

to keep going, and hope that no otherfamilies go to keep going, and hope that no other families go through what we've had to go through. we will talk to all of you in a moment about what you would change about what you would improve. allen, thank you for talking to us this morning, will, your son was 20 when he died in ebbza, he was fit, active, on holiday with friend and you got a call from one of them with the news didn't you. yes, it was on sunday morning, at 8.30 in the morning, and i got morning, at 8.30 in the morning, and igota morning, at 8.30 in the morning, and i got a call and his friend said is that will's dad? i said yes, he said i've got some bad news for you. so i said what? he said will's passed away. so you don't process the words, really. you put the phone down and then, a few minutes later i rang back, isaid down and then, a few minutes later i rang back, i said can i speak to one of his other friends, because i don't believe you. so one of his other friends came on the phone but he couldn't speak, he was crying.

so, short while later, i rang greater manchester police, and they said we've not had any reports of any deaths abroad, contact the foreign office. so we rang the foreign office. so we rang the foreign office, and they said no, weave not heard nothing, we haven't got any reports, we'll contact the consulate in spain an get back to you. so it was about two hours later, before they got back and you are thinking all the time, there's been a mistake, something is not right, because surely the foreign office would know, if there's been a death. two hours later or so, got a call back saying yes there's been a report of a death of a british national in ibiza. still didn't know it was will. we made arrangements to fly to ibiza. we couldn't get a flight fly to ibiza. we couldn't get a flight from the north—west, we ended up flight from the north—west, we ended up having to get somebody, gave us a

lift down to east mid land and we flew from there. presumably you were ona flew from there. presumably you were on a plane with loads of people going on holiday. that was a nightmare in itself on top of the nightmare in itself on top of the nightmare we were experiencing. because they have got all these young people, going on holiday, just like my son had been going two or three days before, and you are going, and you are in disbelief, in despair and going, and you are in disbelief, in despairand a going, and you are in disbelief, in despair and a total numbness of what's happened. you went to the consulate when you arrived and you got a postmortem report swiftly is my understanding, it was in spanish and they wouldn't translate it for you, so, that is standard policy i understand, what impact did that have on you. you just left, why can't, it is, a document, an important document, why can't the consulate translate it for you, for me there is no reason why that is

standard policy. 0k, what would, before i bring in hannah, what would you change as parents who have gone through this, there wasn't enough support. there is no support. i say we we re support. there is no support. i say we were lucky, james, the charge was negligent manslaughter, so because the gentleman was a drink—driver, and we were lucky enough to have victim support as councillors sol was lucky in that respect and they have helped us tremendously, but with the first point of contact and i think the support that we didn't receive is right from that very first knock on the door, or phone call which you obviously didn't get from any authority but from then on those first few days are, you have not idea what is going on, it is such a surreal situation and think just to have some kind of department, or somebody that you can

contact to say, this is what ease happened to my loved one, whether it's a child, spouse, i need help. we didn't know about repatriation, we didn't know about having to need a solicitor, whether we needed to get the report, there were so many things that are unknown, basic that we need to do. that is myman opinion, that is what we need to do, help the families that are in such desperate need at that initial moment. so an initial point of contact moment. so an initial point of co nta ct to moment. so an initial point of contact to either point you in the right direction or actually make some of the calls for you. yes. i understand julie, that 24 hours or the day after your son had died, there was some pressure on you, back here, for him to be cremated there and then the ashes would be sent to you. that was one of the options i was given by the foreign office. at the time i felt as though they were putting pressure on me do that, and i was absolutely rage, i wanted to

go out there, i wanted to be with him,i go out there, i wanted to be with him, iwas go out there, i wanted to be with him, i was later advised against that, which... i probably still regret to this day i didn't go out, because of the time it took to bring him home. sorry you were advised not to travel out. yes, not to travel. that could delay his repatriation, which it still took over three weeks to bring him home. hannah, let me bring you in. you are chair of the all party parliamentary group on deaths abroad, and one imagines you hear these kinds of really sad stories, regularly. yes, i set up a groupjust over stories, regularly. yes, i set up a group just over two months ago because i have had two constituency cases julie pearson because i have had two constituency casesjulie pearson and kirsty maxwell, both we believed have been killed abroad in suspicious circumstances and after the second case i got it raids it in particle. i raised julie's case with david cameron, then theresa may, nothing

seemed to be happening and it seemed like exactly the same feelings and the same system. i have to say how brave the families are to come on and talk about it. because we have had over 40 families give evidence, and time and time again we hear the same stories, that, we do respect the fact that foreign service officers have a very difficultjob. we have respect for them, but it is very clear they don't have the right training or don't have the right resource, it is about resources and protocols in place to give the right support. a single point of contact, repatriation services and support, financial support with thatness, translation services vital. i don't understand why the foreign office with all of its expertise and resource cannot have a central point where they have translation services because i have families, who are still trying to get documents,

funding to get documents translated, and the fact we have time and time again, families having to put crowdfu nd again, families having to put crowdfund ires up just to get the body of their loved ones home. and peripheral stuff like airlinings and airport, so alan saying going out. my airport, so alan saying going out. my families have had to go out on aeroplanes where there is hen party, stag parties, folk going on holiday. some of that can't by a voided but we have had good experience of companies making sure the family we re companies making sure the family were taken through security quickly, they were met at the other end but there is so many horror stories and so many families saying i was lucky because, no family should be lucky, every family should be treated with dignity and respect. we are looking, working cross—party and working with charities and organisations and mps across the house. we asked for a statement from the foreign office. this is what they have told us

today. think there is serious issues with that. firstly, the whole invitation thing, invitations can be let us say manufactured through diplomatic relations and i think there is a contention about diplomatic relations and consular service, we know there are cases where the uk government have put significant pressure on, worked close will i with a foreign government to get the police invited across, it seems like often if something is high profile more resource is allocated, it has to bea more resource is allocated, it has to be a level playing field. it can't be about he or she who shouts the loudest gets the best support. i think that... all the families have highlighted that, that police investigations and the ones i am dealing with very complex, but kirstie maxwell's clothes were destroyed by the police in spain. they destroyed key pieces of evidence and there doesn't seem to be any repercussions to that. how do you respond to that statement allen?

well, the consulate in inthat is open monday friday, i think it is 8.30 to 12.. there is a phone line co nta cta ble 8.30 to 12.. there is a phone line contactable up to 4.00, then, what happens if someone dies or is seriously injured outside the hours, who to do the spanish authorities co nta ct? who to do the spanish authorities contact? how do you react? it is just platitudes from the foreign office. for me, there isjust no consistency across the board, i set up consistency across the board, i set upa consistency across the board, i set up a charity in scotland to support families, and the hundreds of families, and the hundreds of families that i've spoke to, do you know, this kind of statement goes out we are supporting families, and they're not and in 2014, 2015, the foreign affairs select committee had a consultation and they spoke to

over one 00 families and are taking evidence at commit three and from that, i think the committee actually... says you know, one of their recommendations was look, look at deaths abroad, look at a central unit for families. sorry to, just to go back to politicians. it has five people in it. the service they offer, is a single point of contact, they do very very good work but that is the basic level of service that should be afforded to every family, it is beyond me that that cannot be afforded. the foreign affairs committee said that the standards of service felt way below what could be expected and for not just suspicious deaths but home sides but deaths abroad in general should be setup. some of this is practical, it's a specific set of protocols and they

may well be in place and not followed so a review needs to be done, but i think most families would say they are done with review, they need action, that is what we are about. it is an advisory group. we are campaigning on specific issues and will look for practicelical solutions and welcome anybody out there who has had an experience like this, with a loved one dying abroad or if they want to give resource support, please get in touch. let me read messages from people watching you this morning. our dearest friend's youngest daughter was killed on a trip to france. the family have had very little help from the foreign office, no help when talking to the doctors in france and have had little help repatriating the girl to the uk. emily e—mailedful. my only daughter was killed in a car crash in 2005. she was 34. the driver survived, the 600 foot drop over a mountain. my

daughter was smashed to pieces. i was never informed by the home office or the police. ifound out from friends who came round to me the following day. it has been a continuing nightmare. deborah says my niece died abroad in israel. julie was 38. she was scottish and hannah is miss mp. she took the story twice to parliament. once to david cameron who promised live in the house of commons we would get help and the second time to theresa may. still, we are no further forward. the foreign office let me down too. i have had document from the autopsy report and they are in hebrew and no—one can translate them for me. ms says, this chimes with us, we got no support from the british consulate when my brother was killed abroad, either at the time or when we went back for the inquest. i was

disappointed by the response to my complaints which said that so many reddish people live abroad, we can't possibly help all in need of assistance, they didn't even distinguish between a death abroad and someone who had lost their past board, let alone someone who had been dyed and someone who had murdered. —— lost their passport. given a murder inquiry was involved, i thought it would have been different, but they didn't seem to care. only a fraction of british deaths aboard are suspicious, we know hundreds of thousands of people go abroad, we are not trying to scaremonger, but it is a fraction in comparison to the number who go abroad and are fine, it cannot be unrealistic to expect decent resources . unrealistic to expect decent resources. these are british taxpayers, countries are happy to ta ke taxpayers, countries are happy to take their money, happy to, you know, receive their money and at the end of the day broke deserve a

decent level of service and a decent level of support. thank you all very much. coming up, we'll be discussing the controversial pesticide that's at the centre of a $290 million damages case in the us after being linked to cancer. but should roundup weedkiller be banned in the uk? many people have experienced the frustration of attempting to buy tickets online for a concert which sells out, only to find them later on a secondary website for a much higher price. well, the ticket—selling website ticketmaster has announced that it is to close its secondary resale sites get me in and seatwave in a bid to combat touts. these secondary sites allow you to offload unwanted tickets,

but critics say they've been exploited by so—called professional sellers who hike up the prices. our entertainment correspondent lizo mzimba joins me now to explain. so just talk us through the difference between the two different sites. ticketmaster is a primary ticketing site, when an artist goes on tour, tickets go on sale, that is the official place, often, to get those particular tickets. seatwave and get me in are secondary ticketing sites, where people who have decided they want to sell tickets on. now, ticketmaster has been criticised for not attacking the problem of touts as seriously as it could, because of course it stands to profit, it owns two secondary ticketing sites, so of tickets snapped up quickly and ticketmaster and then put on

inflated prices on their own secondary ticketing sites, they get the money twice round, they sell them and then sell them for an even higher profit, and of course they ta ke higher profit, and of course they take a cut of the secondary ticketing. they have now decided to close these sites. why? they have probably seen the writing on the wall, there has been a lot of focus and scrutiny on secondary ticketing over the last couple of years, they have cut down on box, people trying to buy tickets in huge amounts using computer programs, the monopolies authority has been looking at whether it is a proper use of how secondary ticketing should work, fa ns secondary ticketing should work, fans being ripped off in this particular way, and more action has been taken, and they have decided that time is up. thank you very much, thank you. it is 10:34am, the latest news with joanna. the government has vowed to end rough sleeping on england's streets by 2027. it has promised £100 million to help

people turn their lives around, including support for mental health and addictions, and funding for housing. homelessness has been on the rise for the past seven years, with around 4750 people estimated to be sleeping rough on any given night in england last year. police investigating a shooting in the moss side area of manchester are treating it as attempted murder. 12 people, including two children, were taken to hospital early yesterday, mostly for what officers described as pellet—type wounds. no—one's been arrested. the turkish lira has recovered slightly after the country's central bank announced measures to try to stabilise the country's plunging currency. the lira collapsed amid a deepening trade and diplomatic spat with the united states. stock markets have been falling across asia pacific as investors become increasingly concerned over the turkish currency crisis. delays at heathrow airport passport control left passengers queuing for up to two and a half hours last month. on 30 out of 31 days injuly, the borderforce missed its target

of a 45—minute wait or less for 95% of visitors from outside the european economic area. presenter and campaigner katie piper has been revealed as the first star to be taking part in strictly come dancing. piper, who survived an acid attack ten years ago, was unveiled on bbc breakfast as the first contestant of the latest series. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. thank you very much, joanna. 53% of british asians feel they've got to play down their identity to fit in. that's according to new research commissioned by the bbc asian network. the survey of over 2000 british asians also found that young asians are more socially conservative about issues such as sex before marriage than others in their age group. let's get more on the results from nomia iqbal from the bbc asian network. mamta saha is a psychologist

and mum of three. poet and author amani saeed. the editor of burnt roti, which is an online asian lifetsyle magazine, sha ran dhaliwal. journalist hussein kesvani. blogger seetal kaur. thank you all very much, nomia, the most striking thing would seem to be this suggestion that people feel they have got to tone down. this suggestion that people feel they have got to tone downm this suggestion that people feel they have got to tone down. it is interesting, because the way they questioned it was, have you ever tone down your identity or change your behaviour to fit in? and so more than half of respondents said that they had done that, 12% said they did it frequently, and what was interesting was that itjumped in 18-34 interesting was that itjumped in 18—34 —year—olds, so younger people feel the need to do it. what does it mean? it could mean something very

subtle, such as changing your name, slightly abbreviating it so people can pronounce it better, having a slightly more british accent. i know of extreme examples, where people have lightened their skin, and that was another thing that came out of the survey, 58% of asian people said that asian culture values fair skin, and women were the ones that felt that more. also, you know, people having plastic surgery, i know of that going on as well. to change what? to change their nose. i do not know if you have heard of that, or people feel that they have a typically punjabi knows. they change that to make it more caucasian. those are extreme examples, but in terms of changing your name, i think ultimately it says something about how integration happens that when you live in a country where most of the population is non—asian, i think you are going to naturally maybe not

have those traits which are typically asian, if that makes sense. let's broadness out, i think you said that growing up, you whitewashed your culture — what did you do? i ignored a lot of my cultural heritage, so an extreme example would be that i actually got a nose job about eight years ago, i had a very punjabi knows, and it wasn't until later on that the discussion around ethnic cleansing through plastic surgery was discussed with me, but i did it for mental health reasons and confidence more than anything. but like, yeah, much later i realised there was something behind there. my mum would make saag at home, but i would complain it made my clothes smell. i know now that people are jealous i am going to eat this lovely curry! before, i was embarrassed, i was scared of what it meant to be asian, but now there is a lot of embracing it. do you think you played down

your background ? it. do you think you played down your background? i didn't grow up in the uk, i grew up in the states, in a very heavily south asian area, so the school i went to was probably 60% asian, 30% white, 10% other demographics. so i never really felt the need, you know, but i never really felt the colour of my skin, it was only when i came here i discovered it. how old were you? 17, so it was only then that i felt the colour of my skin and almost the fa ct colour of my skin and almost the fact that i was south asian became a factor in my identity. and why did it? where was that pressure coming from? it was coming, i am not going to lie, i went to the university of exeter, predominantly a white institution, and i studied english, and it was through discussions about race, gender and religion that i became the only brown voice in the classroom to provide an alternative narrative, and all of the other

white kids almost saw me as representing the whole demographic, so my skin became more important thanit so my skin became more important than it should have been. you grew up than it should have been. you grew up in kent, were you encouraged to fit in? not like explicitly encouraged, but i think there was a coalition to do so. in what sense? when you are one of the few or the only non—white person in a class, in a classroom, you automatically adjust your behaviour, and one of those things is actually, like, in the way that you speak, your language, because what you realise is that by armalite, changing the way you speak, by becoming becoming more well spoken, you can be taken more well spoken, you can be taken more seriously. in an environment where it is very cut—throat, so the selective grammar schools system intent is very cut—throat, you do it asa intent is very cut—throat, you do it as a means of survival and as a means of getting ahead. —— in kent.

i ended means of getting ahead. —— in kent. iended up means of getting ahead. —— in kent. i ended up downplaying parts of my identity, just as a means of getting through the day to day lives of like, you know, being in an education system like that. what about yourself, did you try to fit m, about yourself, did you try to fit in, were you encouraged to?l about yourself, did you try to fit in, were you encouraged to? a lot of us who are migrants find ourselves as chameleons, so in different contexts we are different people, we highlight certain parts of our identity. definitely, iwent highlight certain parts of our identity. definitely, i went to a mixed comprehensive school, i had a mostly white friends, a couple of asian friends outside school i was learning indian classical music and dance, i was very proud in exploring the cultural aspects. but at school you did have to kind of fit in and tone down certain aspects of your culture. i don't want to be dramatic, but did it feel like a double life? yeah, it definitely

does. i mean, it might not be specific to migrants, i am sure eve ryo ne specific to migrants, i am sure everyone in some way, shape or form as different masks for different parts of their life, but it is very prominent in a minority context, in a migrant context, because you are a minority, in a lot of cases, whether in the workplace and things like that, you are the only person perhaps of colour. so you end up having to split yourself in different ways with your family, your friends, your colleagues. different ways with your family, yourfriends, your colleagues. a chameleon—like style! yourfriends, your colleagues. a chameleon-like style! you are disagreeing? i think back to my childhood, growing up, and i never consciously really thought about playing different roles for different audiences. my school was a mixed school, my working environment typically has been predominantly non—asian, i have always been myself. for me, it has always been about having confidence in who i am,

as opposed to what i am, and i have never really let that label me. the first time i thought about it was when i worked at tesco, i was asked to lead a project for diversity, and i thought, what is it all about? it was i thought, what is it all about? it was the first time i ever noticed that i am asian in an environment that i am asian in an environment thatis that i am asian in an environment that is predominantly non—asian. up until the point, i that is predominantly non—asian. up untilthe point, i had not thought about it, and i advocated that there was no about it, and i advocated that there was no difference between people, we all come a different place, and we need to appreciate the differences in others, notjust the colour. so is it potentially down to age, the nature of your personality, whereabouts you grow up? you know, you talked about the states, the same as intent, do all of those factors come into it? i think home your environment plays a massive part, so my family had never highlighted, you are different to anyone else. did any of your families highlight that you were

different? i don't think people highlighted it, but you were aware of it. in the home, it is different from outside the home. our indianness had always been highlighted with friends, and i do that now, i think about my kids and their friends, and we live in a predominantly non—asian environment, andl predominantly non—asian environment, and i never consciously think about downplaying my indianness, or notice the difference between me and the people that i integrate with.” think you are really lucky to feel that way, because a lot of south asians do not. on one hand, you can feel comfortable and confident enough to celebrate your culture and identity in that way, but my mum didn't really have a choice in the way she was viewed, she was accosted by skinheads on the bus, she had to beat them up there, because that is

who she was. so it is one thing having the strength within yourself to ove rco m e having the strength within yourself to overcome that, but regardless we are always overcoming racial —— overcoming racialisation. from my perspective, i was never told directly, like, you live a very different life, but i also live in a household where we lived with other relatives, grandparents and stuff like that, and that was a very different experience to everyone else who i went to screw with, and that kind of comes out from the way you live your everyday life, and you don't really notice that, you don't really appreciate that until much later. at the same time, i do think that, you know, in certain environments, living differently and how you interact with asian identity is dependent on where you are. my very anecdotal analysis is that, you know, friends of mine who lived in

cities, much more multicultural cities, much more multicultural cities, tended to be much more comfortable with their asian identity growing up than people like myself, who did not. we only become... not even more comfortable, butjust like we can kind of assert our own identities in our own ways much later in life, when we have more control over our own environment and what we choose to do. we have got to leave at there, but thank you, all of you, thank you for coming on the programme. thank you, thank you so much. farmers have told this programme that food prices could rise dramatically if a controversial pesticide ends up being banned. glyphosate is a chemicalfound in popular weedkillers, and it's now at the centre of a row after an american court awarded huge damages to a gardener who was exposed to it and developed cancer. dewaynejohnson will receive around $290 million, after a jury in the states found the weedkiller he used, made by the biotech company monsanto,

contributed significantly to his illness. glyphosate is a key ingredient of roundup, a weedkiller made by monsanto, which you can pick up at most garden centres in the uk. some stores here are now considering whether to take roundup, and other products which contain the chemical, off the shelves. the scientific argument is not settled. the us enviromental protection agency says that glyphosate is safe when used carefully. but the world health organization has said it is probably carcinogenic to humans. let's talk to nick mole from the pesticide action network uk. he's campaigned against glyphosate, the chemical in roundup. olly harrison, a farmer in the north west, who's worried that restricting glyphosate use would potentially ruin farmers' businesses and cause food prices to rise. sue fennimore is the deputy leader of hammersmith and fulham council, which says it was

the first in england to stop using glyphosate for general weedkilling. should it be banned? good morning. yes, i think there are a number of issues, you pointed out that rachael maskell is not just issues, you pointed out that rachael maskell is notjust used in farming, there should be an immediate ban on all non—agricultural uses of glyphosate, there is no reason why we should be spring it on parks, pavements, and regarding farming, yes, it should be looked at being phased out, bans and restrictions can promote innovation, innovative techniques that can take out the use of these potentially toxic chemicals from our food of these potentially toxic chemicals from ourfood chain, and that is what we should be aiming at, so yes, i would like to see that happen, as it is elsewhere in the world. as a farmer who uses this chemical, tell him why he is wrong. well, he says that if we banned it, we'd be able

to have new things to tackle it. glyphosate is still innovative, it was glyphosate is still innovative, it was invented 40 years ago, it is the safe st was invented 40 years ago, it is the safest chemical around, over 800 studies have told us that, only one document says something against this, and this is what the court case was this, and this is what the court case was based on. but the international agency for research on cancer, effectively the who cancer agency, concluding that it probably does cause cancer in humans, how do you react to that? they have tested over 1000 things and only found one that would not, the category falls into is drinking coffee, you know, working a night shift, it is a probable carcinogenic. there are questions around some of the scientists around that report, one was on scientists around that report, one was on the payroll of the solicitors involved in this case in the us. one year after that report, there was a joint one by the who and the un which says there was evidence of a positive association between glyphosate exposure and the risk of

non—hodgkin's lymphoma in some studies, but the only large study of high—quality round, quote, no evidence of an association at any exposure level. well, i would counter that, we wouldn't be having this conversation if it was cut and dried and perfectly safe. many peer—reviewed studies have shown issues with glyphosate, notjust causing cancer, but also linked to birth defects, kidney problems and other environmental issues. this is not a safe chemical, and that is why we are having this debate. if it is proved to be benign, so be it. until then, we should be cautious, protect ourselves, human health and the environment from the pernicious effects of this and other pesticides. this is notjust about glyphosate, it brings into question the whole way we regulate and approved pesticides, you know, based on industry studies, based on industry tests, the industry that

makes these things ultimately wants to profit from them, so they have a vested interest in saying it is safe. why did your council imposed this partial ban on this chemical?‘ numberof this partial ban on this chemical?‘ number of reasons. but firstly, the administration has a firm commitment to moving towards being the best and greenest borough in the country, and we felt that spraying local parks, local spaces, local roads with potentially toxic chemicals was something that we thought we wanted to change and stop doing. what evidence was guiding you when you say potentially toxic chemicals? we know that there are some chemicals that residents say they are very concerned about, so we decided the best form of action was to look at alternatives, look at ways that we could be more environmentally friendly. so it wasn't scientific evidence, it was council tax payers saying we are not happy with this? we had a commission that we worked

with, a resident led commission on biodiversity and how to improve it in the borough. in line with that, we felt that it was inappropriate to be spraying chemicals when we know there are alternatives, there are other options that we can use. but you still use this glyphosate. the only place that we use it is with the horrors of japanese only place that we use it is with the horrors ofjapanese knotweed. we don't use glyphosates on our parks or roads and open spaces. japanese knotweed is another story, more of a curse than anything else, and it needs to be handled by professional, qualified people. if this chemical was to be banned in the uk, what would be the impact on farmers like yourself, and what would be the impact, in your view, yourself, and what would be the impact, in yourview, on yourself, and what would be the impact, in your view, on consumers? go anything that makes us less productive could potentially put prices up, but the main reason is to protect our soil and life on the

farm, andl protect our soil and life on the farm, and i think it would be ludicrous to get rid of it, because we would have to use more diesel and release more carbon from the soil to try and control weeds and invasive species such as knotweed, where if there's only one cure, and that is glyphosate. what alternatives would you suggest to farmers? well, i mean, this is, you know, we need to look at developing alternatives. we have had glyphosate holding back progress for 40 years. it is cheap, easy, we have always done it, so it is time for a change. in terms of putting up food prices, this has come from the national farmers' union, as it always does, when they think one of their pesticides is being threatened. that doesn't mean it won't happen. sorry? it does not mean that because it has come from the national farmers' union their prediction is not true. no, but they generally are, i mean, they predicted... they use hyperbole

to protect their pesticides. now, and they look at not using glyphosate with snow, no alternative and using glyphosate, they don't look at integrated pest management and other systems that could be used to replace glyphosate effectively and maintain sustainability. let me get a response, as a farmer, you are scaremongering, according to nick.” don't know why, some people think glyphosate is free, we use it because it is the best tool available to protect soils and protect biodiversity on our farms. 0k, thank you all, thank you very much for coming in, thank you for talking to us, we will see what happens, thank you. back to our top story. the government's plan to eradicate homelessness within ten years. lots of you got in touch in the course of the programme with your experiences, including ian, who found himself homeless for three months in manchester earlier this year. we can talk to him on the phone now.

hello. thank you very much for getting in touch with us, thanks for coming on the programme, tell us your experience. basically, i ended up your experience. basically, i ended up on the streets, like 99% of people, through no fault of their own, and the support i was given was none, basically, by the authorities. we will give you an e—mail addressed to co nta ct, we will give you an e—mail addressed to contact, how do i do that on the streets ? to contact, how do i do that on the streets? the experience i have seen, sleeping on the street is not the ha rd sleeping on the street is not the hard bit, is the public attitude, when you are abused and spat on and your unaided on. for instance, in manchester, where they had the single for the memorial on, that night the council went around telling homeless people, we arejet washing all the doorways tonight, so if you are in, you are going to get wet, just to get them out of town because the media were going to be there. they went allowed access to

pay their respects at the memorial. —— they weren't allowed access. pay their respects at the memorial. -- they weren't allowed access. you know better than me that your mayor is trying to eradicate rough sleeping in manchester by 2020, not by 2027, the government target. yeah, but it is all words. if you are here day in, day out, fortu nately are here day in, day out, fortunately i have managed to get somewhere to live, but i do what i can to help the homeless out, they we re can to help the homeless out, they were the only ones who helped me, and... can! were the only ones who helped me, and... can i ask you how rife spice is amongst people who are homeless? that is one of the areas where government money will be targeted. people get labelled, everyone on the street is labelled as a spice head, someone walks past, are you on your spice? it is a problem, but the people who are honoured the long—term homeless, and in a way, it is their escape to get away from the reality they are in. you know, it is

a problem, yes, everyone appreciates that. but it is not everybody. everybody gets called a spice head and gets looked down on, but you are not, i was very strong—willed, so when people called me things, it spurred me on to sort myself out, which i did, i managed to get a job and a home, but people being called scum, something needs to be done to change the public attitude. that is the most hurtful thing about being on the streets. sorry to interrupt, hopefully we have managed to do that a little bit today by talking about this. good to talk to you, glad to hear you are back on your feet. thank you for your company, bbc newsroom live is next. have a good day. hello there, good morning. we have had a rather cloudy start to the day

across many parts of the uk, early morning rain and showers affecting northern and eastern parts of the uk as well, some sunny spells breaking through the cloud, but for most of us at the moment, fairly cloudy. this is the scene in lincolnshire, clouds quite dark, and around this area, up into the north—east of england we will see some heavy showers developing through this afternoon, some thunderstorms, hail, lightning associated with those, gusty winds as well, hit and miss. some sunny spells towards the south—east, temperatures of 20—25 degrees, still quite a bit of luck for scotland and northern ireland, jurors last times, feeling fresher. —— drizzle at times, feeling fresher. overnight temperatures down to 12-15. fresher. overnight temperatures down to 12—15. throughout tuesday, for england and wales, largely dry and bright, more cloud with rain moving into scotland and northern ireland. bye— bye. this is bbc news.

i'm joanna gosling. these are the top stories developing at 11am. the government promises more money to tackle rough sleeping in england and help deal with mental health problems and addictions. delays at heathrow airport passport control left some passengers queuing for up to two and a half hours last month. ticketmaster announces its closing its resale sites to try to combat touts who hike up prices. turkey's central bank says its taken measures to maintain financial stability, after the collapse of its currency, the lira. more than 300 people have been injured after part of a wooden platform collapsed

at a festival in spain. also coming up: a major new survey of the uk's south asian community. it finds young asians are more socially conservative on issues including sex before marriage and same—sex relationships