so an enthusiastic on, which to use. so an enthusiastic welcome. from the people gathered there. but not the huge numbers certainly that we saw out on the streets back in 1979. i think it is fair to say. so the pope has a number of engagements today. among the engagement, he is going to be meeting homeless families. he is expected crucially also to meet victims survivors of sex abuse. from the hands of clerics. but we have

been told by the church authorities that we will not know about that meeting until after it has happened. and then that is up to those taking pa rt and then that is up to those taking part in the meeting with pope francis whether or not they want to talk publicly about the conversation that takes place. pope francis is continuing his journey through dublin city centre. in the popemobile. so you are watching pope francis on this two—day visit to ireland, well under way. he arrived at dublin airport this morning. now, several hours later and after a speech at dublin castle where i am speaking to you from, he is making his way

through the streets of dublin city centre. the 81—year—old is choosing not to use the chair for the short journey, rather to stand. all the better to let the crowds see him. a pretty demanding schedules for any 81—year—old person. iam a pretty demanding schedules for any 81—year—old person. i am sure you would agree. entering mount saint mary's pro cathedral in dublin. the venue for many important national offence. —— national events. what he's going to be doing is talking to a number of couples. number of newly married

couples. number of newly married couples. also one who have celebrated their golden anniversary, 50 yea rs of celebrated their golden anniversary, 50 years of marriage. he's going to be delivering a second speech. he will be making a number of speeches on the subject of marriage. staves, how couples can pass on faith to their children. very much tying in with the official reason for pope francis being in ireland, the world meeting of families. it is an event that happens every three years run by the catholic church to reflect on and to celebrate the importance of the family in the catholic faith. ireland, dublin, chosen by the pope for the venue. for this gathering.

earlier on at his speech, pope francis talked about the importance of the protection of minors and vulnerable adults in society as a whole. blessings some of those who have gathered to meet him here. at saint mary's broken bejeweled.

—— saint mary's pro cathedral. when he recognise the good work of the church, but also demanded very politely, but demanded, nonetheless that the pope put victims first. a moment of prayer, a moment of quiet reflection for pope francis. and with me here as we watch pope francis is showing up from the independent irish newspaper. thank you for being here to talk to me. we spoke earlier today before we heard that speech from pope francis here at the castle. what is your analysis of its? well, i think people are a

little bit disappointed that the pope did not go a little bit further to address what people have been calling for, which is action, in addition to words of an apology for the abuse that we know about, that has been known about for several decades. in actualfact, he commended his predecessor for apologising and saying the work he has done thus far has been good enough. and we also know that survivors want to know about the level of justice that is survivors want to know about the level ofjustice that is going to ta ke level ofjustice that is going to take place, that the pope will make sure there is mandatory reporting. and those who are guilty of abuse would phase justice and and those who are guilty of abuse would phasejustice and impunity would phasejustice and impunity would not continue. it was also said that we want action in addition to words. the wounds remain open in this country. how important do you

think is action on that before ireland as a nation, the state can move on to this new chapter with the church? i don't see that it can. this pope has really shown that the catholic church is intransigent in these issues. it is notjust a matter of clash of of moral opinion. this is about criminality. it is much bigger than this. if you look at the revelations from pennsylvania couple of weeks ago, this is systemic abuse. this is paedophilia, paedophile ring. this is not about moral teachings and moving away from that. we still have in this country more reports to emerge in relation to the catholic church and the state's world in illegal adoptions, forced adoptions. we still have many people who are still alive who could

be brought to justice. people who are still alive who could be brought tojustice. if people who are still alive who could be brought to justice. if that were possible, if the catholic church was serious, they could be delivering on that. and it appears that is not the case. i have spoke to some people who are deeply disappointed. i do not see how this new chapter can begin without everybody‘s feelings begin without everybody‘s feelings be acknowledged and action being taken. some say that pope francis might yet say something more on those issues. it would be an opportunity, certainly for him to do that. especially in the context of the key event for him this weekend, it's a world meeting families. yes, i think really the opportunity was today. today with the state element of it. what he was addressing was the state and the relationship between the state and the church. the world meeting of families is kind of a convention that solidifies the catholic church and teachings. i

think people are disappointed because i think people thought that pope francis would bring a different type of humanity and compassion. people really admire him for his teaching on climate change, the dignity on men, refugees. they would like to support him. they like the idea that he took the name francis after francis of assisi. i really don't think this is materialising right now. we are just seeing what has been called the greeting of grandparents. this couple have been married for 50 years, they recently celebrated their golden wedding anniversary. family life is challenging to my but it is worthwhile. family life is not easy for us. we were supported, however, ina for us. we were supported, however, in a special way by prayer. the quiet prayers that we uttered in

moments of challenge and sorrow. the prayers of thanksgivings for the little and grace joys along the path of our lives. the prayers which kept us of our lives. the prayers which kept us going when times were hard. marriage and family life is challenging, but with the help of oui’ challenging, but with the help of our faith challenging, but with the help of ourfaith in challenging, but with the help of our faith injesus christ, our love has been the most worthwhile dimension of our lives. a very special moment for this couple. 50 years married. and the pope is also meeting newly engaged couples. and he will now deliver the second

speech of this visit, i believe. or perhaps we're going to hear more the couples. i think we are going to hear from couples. i think we are going to hearfrom some of couples. i think we are going to hear from some of the couples before we hear this speech, which will be on the subject of love, marriage and the family. in a month's time we will celebrate our love for each other and the sacrament of marriage. withjoy and other and the sacrament of marriage. with joy and also a little bit of anxiety, we will give ourselves to each other for the whole of our lives. so many of our friends feel challenged by the idea of lifelong commitment. they feel that love is personal and does not need any institutional framework. how do we speak to them about the value of lifelong commitment of marriage and

the special gift of the sacrament of marriage? that engaged couple posing the question how do we speak to friends who are unsure about the value of lifelong commitment in marriage? that is something that the pope will be referred back to in his speech, we expect. we have been married for just one month. it is our prayer that one day god will bless our marriage with the gift of children. as we prepare for that moment, how should we prepare how to get across to our children the importance of

faith? so many young people today to have the special gift of knowing jesus christ. the question raised by this young couple of how to pass on faith and values to children. so again, all themes that we are hearing through this weekend and the events that have been running up to this weekend. the meeting of families. and questions which we expect the pope to touch on. that is when he delivers his speech. checking one or does my details with the bishop of dublin. but i think he is about

ready to begin. translation: we can meet in this historic broker feature on saint mary's. test historic probe cathedral. in looking at you, i wonder it is not true what people say about young people not wanting to get married. thank you. thank you. getting married and sharing one's

life is a wonderful thing. there is a saying in spanish which goes, pain is shared in two is like half ofa pain. pain is shared in two is like half of a pain. joy, when lived in two is a m of a pain. joy, when lived in two is ajoy and a of a pain. joy, when lived in two is a joy and a half. it is multiplied and this is the path and the road of marriage. how much loved has been expressed and how many graces have been received in this holy place? i wish to thank our bishop martin for

his very cordial welcome. and i am especially happy to be with all of you, engaged couples and married couples at different stages on the journey of sacramental love. and it is wonderful to have heard that music and the music of the children that cried. because that is hope. it is the most beautiful kind of music you can listen to, but it is also wonderful preaching. it is beautiful to hear a child cry because it is the cry of hope. it means that life continues. it means life goes on, it means continues. it means life goes on, it m ea ns love continues. it means life goes on, it means love is fruitful. that is what happens when you look at children, but also i greeted an elderly lady

earlier on and looking at the elderly as well, you see the elderly are filled with wisdom. it is important to listen to what they have to say. ask them how digital life go? i like the fact that you started out after 50 years of marriage, you were the first to speak. because you have a lot of experience to share. this future and the past meet in the present. they, the past meet in the present. they, the older ones, and the old, allow me to say that word. the old, old wisdom. they really do. they have wisdom. they really do. they have wisdom. and mother in laws too. mother in—laws too are wise. and

children. children have to listen to their wisdom. you have to listen. you who are young, you have to listen and you have to talk to them. in order to further what they have to say because they are the groups. —— they are the roots. you must take them and bring them forward. i really wa nted them and bring them forward. i really wanted to say that from the bottom of my heart. in a special way, as i was saying, i wish to express my gratitude for the testimony of those who spoke to us about the 50 years of married life. thank you both for your words of encouragement and for the challenges that you talked about and that you addressed to a new generation. to

couples not just here addressed to a new generation. to couples notjust here in ireland, but all over the world. they are not going to be like you. they are going to be different, but they need your experience in order to be different. in order to go forward. it is so important to listen to the elderly, to the grandparents. we have a lot to the grandparents. we have a lot to learn from your experience of married life. and a married life sustained every day by the grace of the sacrament. i feel like asking you did you have too many fights? did you argue a lot? because that is pa rt did you argue a lot? because that is part of being married. a married couple that does not fight, is kind of boring. but the secret, you know,

you can throw dishes at each other, but the secret, the secret is to be reconciled, to make peace by the end of the day. and to do that, you do not need long speeches. all you need isa not need long speeches. all you need is a caress, just like that, a stroke. and it is done. do you know why? because if you do not make peace before you go to bed at night, then the cold war of the next day is too dangerous. you know, it begins that way. argue as much as you want, but you have got to make sure you make peace by the end of the day. 0k? make peace by the end of the day. ok? please don't forget that, especially those of you who are

young. growing together in this community of love and life, you have experienced a lot of things. and surely, sorrows experienced a lot of things. and surely, sorrows as experienced a lot of things. and surely, sorrows as well. together with all the spouses who have come far along this path, you are the keepers of our collective memory. we will always need your faith filled witness. it is a precious resource for young couples who look to the future with excitement and hope. and perhaps, with a little bit of trepidation too. they are probably wondering what the future is going to hold for them. i also wish to thank young couples who have asked

me some questions. it is not easy to a nswer me some questions. it is not easy to answer those questions. a journey of love is about to happen which in god's plan entails a lifelong commitment. this couple asked how can they help others to see that marriage is not simply an institution, but a vocation. it is something that lasts throughout one's life. it is a conscience, lifelong decision. to cherish, to assist and protect one another. and certainly we must recognise that today, we are simply not used to anything that really lasts for the whole of our lives. we live in a

culture of the provisional, of the temporary. if i feel hungry or thirsty, i can eat. but my feeling of being full does not even last a day. if i have a job, of being full does not even last a day. if i have ajob, i of being full does not even last a day. if i have a job, i know that i might lose it, against my will or that i may have to choose a different career. it is even hard to keep track of the world because it changes all around us. people come and go in our lives. and promises are made, but often they are broken or left unfulfilled. perhaps what you are or left unfulfilled. perhaps what you a re really or left unfulfilled. perhaps what you are really asking me is something even more basic. is there anything precious that and into her

at all? i think that is the question. —— that can into. it seems that no beautiful things seems to last. is there anything precious that can last? not even love itself? and there is the temptation that although you are saying that you are going to be together for all of your lives and you might convert that into a different message and say, oh well, as long as the love lasts. if you do not nurture that love with love, it is not going to last very long. so, yours is a commitment to grow your love. because there is

nothing provisional about love. you can be enthusiastic initially, maybe you can be excited, maybe you can be under a spell, but that is not love. when love is truly love, it is definitive. it means you and me. as we say, it is half of the orange. you are my half of the orange and you are the other half. that is what love is. for one's old life. it is easy to be enslaved by the culture of the ephemeral which attacks the

very roots of our processes of maturation of our growth in faith and in hope. and love. how can we experience in this culture what is truly lasting? that is a pretty intense question. how can we experience the truly lasting in this culture of the ephemeral? here's what i would like to say to you. of all the kind of human fruitfulness, marriage is unique. it is about a love that gives rise to a new life. it involves mutual responsibility for the transmission of god's gift of life. and it provides a stable environment in which that new life can grow and flourish. marriage in

the church, that is, the sacrament of matching money, shares in a special way in the mystery of god's eternal love. when a christian man and woman come together and enter into the bond of marriage, the lord's grace enables them freely to promise one another and exclusive and enduring love. their union thus becomes a sacramental sign, and this is really important, the sacrament of marriage, becomes a sacramental sign of the new and internal cover made between the lord and his bride the church. jesus is ever present. he sustains them throughout life in

their mutual gift of self infidelity and indissoluble unity. the love of jesusis and indissoluble unity. the love of jesus is like a rock and a refuge in times of trial, but more importantly, it is a source of co nsta nt importantly, it is a source of constant growth in pure and lasting love. you are really placing all of your bets on each other, but i encourage you to run that risk. to run that risk because marriage is a risk too, but it is worthwhile taking that risk for one's old life because that is what love is. we know that love is god's dream for

us we know that love is god's dream for us and the whole human family. please, never forget that. us and the whole human family. please, neverforget that. god has a dream for us anti—assad is to make it our own, so do not be afraid of that dream. —— for us and he asks us to. cherish it, and dream it every single day. in this way, you will be able to support each other with hope, strength and forgiveness. at those moments, when the path becomes difficult, when it becomes