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it isa it is a very useful way for an paul. it is a very useful way for an elderly man to be able to get around and be seen by the crowds. this is a wonderful opportunity for those who are devout catholics to see the man who leads their church and you can see them waving and smiling despite the weather. this is a day that many will rememberfor the rest this is a day that many will remember for the rest of their lives as the pope visits phoenix park in dublin. this is the scene in phoenix park, and what we are expecting is that for probably another few minutes, the pope will continue to tour. it is enormous, as anybody who has been to phoenix park will know. the numbers who are there is huge,
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people surging to get a site, and not just the site, people surging to get a site, and notjust the site, to have their hand touched by the pope. for those who are catholics, it is profoundly symbolic moment, the link between man and god exemplified by this figure, and a hugely controversial figure, and a hugely controversial figure in the politics of ireland, in the days of the conflict of northern ireland, the then pope was regularly condemned by ian paisley of the democratic unionist and his party, some fear that the papacy would be a kind of government, and it would tell the people of northern ireland what to do if they were ever reunited with the republic of ireland. relationships have changed, attitudes have changed. the pope is attitudes have changed. the pope is a largely religious leader now rather than a secular one, and certainly not a political one, but the vatican is still a state in its own right that sends ambassadors
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around the world, britain has an ambassador to the holy see who attends and hold audiences with the pope. but on this particular visit, what we have seen as the politicians trying to have influence on the papacy. nothing more striking for me in what we've seen in the last couple of days than leo varadkar, the taoiseach, the prime minister embodies how ireland has changed, he comes from an indian background, an immigrantfamily, he comes from an indian background, an immigrant family, he is gay, his country has now accepted abortion, and same—sex marriage is now modern realities, things that the church has traditionally been deeply uncomfortable with, and his message to the church was that the terrible suffering caused not just to the church was that the terrible suffering caused notjust in clerical sex abuse but also in terms of the brutal regimes that existed in some of the catholic run institutions, not least those
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magdalene laundry is for young mums who had had children out of wedlock, those sent by their families for other reasons, that the church has a long way to restore trust and confidence, even if people's faith in god is undiminished, their confidence in the church as an institution is troubled, and we heard earlier from martin institution is troubled, and we heard earlierfrom martin bashir, oui’ heard earlierfrom martin bashir, our religion editor, about the allegation published today in a letter published today by archbishop vigano accusing the pope, accusing pope francis himself of not taking action and of ignoring his warnings about the then archbishop of washington, dc, thomas majeric, the cardinal who resigned last month over allegations of abuse, and vigano said that the pope had to
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face up to the fact that some of these allegations had been covered up. most taoiseachs have been an expression of their own humility, and this is something that the pope will have to come to terms with. the contrast will be for anyone who remembers the images of when pope john paul visited in 1979, there is no doubt hear there is passion and faith, but the picture elsewhere in ireland is not necessarily the same, so ireland is not necessarily the same, so let's return now to my colleague annita mcveigh who is in phoenix park ready for mass. sean, thank you very much. pope
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francis travelling in that unmistakable vehicle, the popemobile, to see the huge crowds who have gathered to see him say mass. he is due to begin mass at around 3:30pm, but he will take quite some time to work his way around the crowd laid out in a grid system, everyone being directed into various sections of this great so that the popemobile can move around with ease. just over my left shoulder, you may be able to see and certainly an hour of a shot, the vehicle moving through the crowd to
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a sea of papal flags, vatican flags. the estimates for this crowd here, half a million people. ahead of me i can still see people making their way into this area set out in front ofa way into this area set out in front of a specially designed altar stroke stage where performances have been taking place since early this morning, hours and hours ago, for those very hearty souls who arrived much earlier in the day despite the ingham clement weather —— the inclement weather. i can see people running to get the opportunity to get close to where pope francis is travelling past in the popemobile, surging forwards as he addresses the crowd. and again, as he has done on
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other occasions in the popemobile during this trip, he isn't sitting down, the 81—year—old pontiff, he is standing to give anyone who wants to a better view of him. there are some spaces as you can see on that aerial shot in this vast area, but they are still filling up as the crowd continues to pour into this section of phoenix park. in the background, organist david greeley providing the accompaniment as pope francis travels amongst the crowds. and the mass that pope francis is
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going to be saying is effectively the close of the world meeting of families, the reason that he is in ireland officially. but of course as he travelled to ireland yesterday morning, and he has fitted a lot in since then, it was very much with unawa reness 0h since then, it was very much with unawareness on his part that he would be addressing the issue of abuse carried out by priests, others in religious orders and in church institutions, and issue that has severely tested the church and its relationship with the people in ireland in the decades since the last papal visit ireland in the decades since the
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last pa pal visit here ireland in the decades since the last papal visit here nearly a0 yea rs last papal visit here nearly a0 years ago byjohn paul ii before the scandal is really came to wider public attention. and earlier today in county mayo, in knock, where there is a famous shrine visited by many pilgrims each year, the pope used his short speech to the crowd gather there, to say he was praying for god's forgiveness for the open wounds caused by abuse, and saying that he sought truth and justice. he has of course used those words before, and many will look to see that actions follow on from those words, rapid actions. that was exactly what the irish prime minister leo brad —— leo varadkar
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called for yesterday, actions to follow the words. but the many catholics here in ireland, this visit couldn't have come too soon. it was overdue as far as they were concerned. a0 years on almost since john paul ii, it was time, they felt, for the pope, or a pope, to visit. a much—needed renewal if you like of the contract between church and people by the presence of pope francis here, because this is still predominantly catholic country. around 70% of people identify as catholic. and the church is still very strong here, faith is still
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very strong here, faith is still very strong here, faith is still very strong here. so really a crucial moment for catholicism in ireland in many respects. joining me here again at my position overlooking the crowd here in phoenix park is the theologian father eamon conway. your thoughts as you watch this unfold behind you? i have been here with you since early this morning, and we can see the big difference between the darkness and the fog and here now these massive crowds arriving, still pouring in. it is beginning to move
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to an atmosphere of a festival, they are going to celebrate the most important sacrament in the christian tradition, the eucharist. i was speaking to some people, and their sense of just joy really, speaking to some people, and their sense ofjustjoy really, deep joy, you can see families, young people, children with their parents, their grandparents and so on, just looking forward very much to this are half praying together with the holy father. and the pope will deliver his homily, his sermon, during this mass. what have you been able to find out, or what sensed you have of what this mass will be like?m find out, or what sensed you have of what this mass will be like? it is the repeated theme, this is the world festival of families, it is about the small gestures of love and ca re about the small gestures of love and care in our everyday lives, particularly in the family. last night he mentioned the phrase of an irish priest, the family that preys together stays together. the importance simply of making sure
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that our home is a safe place of sanctuary and love, and of course no family is perfect, no family is a lwa ys family is perfect, no family is always a place of love, but pope francis reminding us to nurture that and let that grow. and the other big theme of this visit is that the church is also a safe place for families to be in, especially for children. very much so, i don't think it is going to be a major theme here, and he mentioned it very strongly this morning at knock shrine. he used words such as the open wounds that need to be treated with truth and justice, very strong words indeed which were very welcome. so, people continuing to pour into this area. father eamon, you
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remember pope john paul this area. father eamon, you remember popejohn paul ii's visit to ireland in 1979, you were a boy scout as you were telling us earlier, and you are helping out, assisting with the visit to the knock shrine where pope francis went this morning. how does this compare? the weather hasn't changed! i understand that this one will be smaller, but that is not due to lack of interest. there was a huge deal made about health and safety, about having tickets and so on, and there seems to be a lot of confusion, u nfortu nately, seems to be a lot of confusion, unfortunately, maybe inevitably with this kind of an organisation. but certainly those people who have turned out, coming a long distance, having to walk quite a distance to get in here, it really is quite a pilgrimage really, and it is wonderful to see people making that effort. father eamon conway, thank you very much. looking on over the big crowds as we wait on the pope to
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begin the maths here, still quite a while, i imagine, to work his way through the crowds. he wants to give as many people as possible who have made the effort to be here the opportunity to see him. and pope francis wanted to give people a chance to see him before he says this mass. that will be the end effectively of the world meeting of families. 0nce effectively of the world meeting of families. once he leaves here he will make another speech, but not one to the irish bishop, and we will wait to hear what words he has for them at this time of considerable turmoil in the church at a time when we are seeing here today for example
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a great demonstration of people's faith in ireland as well. more from here later, but for now, back to shaun. annita, thank you very much. we will be waiting for that mass to begin, but for now, it's time for the film review. hello and welcome to the film review 0h hello and welcome to the film review on bbc news, and mark kermode is here. it feels like it has been ages. what have you chosen this week? the children act, starring emma thompson, and alpha, the new movie. and black klansman, the spike
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lee film. i have read the novel of the the children act. emma thompson is engulfed by this case, a case about a boy who was 17 years old and is refusing blood transfusions, but he is still technically a child, and there is an argument about whether or not he's being forced into this position by his parents. she also has deal with cases of conjoined twins. when she comes home, she brings the work home with her, and her husband, stanley tucci, is starting to feel shut out of their marriage. here is a clip. i will make reservations for dinner, because i have had an awful day myself. and we will drink some wine, andl myself. and we will drink some wine, and i can get some opera tickets for saturday night? i'm due to judge all
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weekend. you can't switch it? two judgments for monday. what? nothing. it'sjust like last judgments for monday. what? nothing. it's just like last weekend the 50 weekends before that. that's how it is. yes. yes. luck... i don't know how to say this. but here it is. i think... luck... i don't know how to say this. but here it is. ithink... i think i want to have an affair. yeah. now, i... stanley tucci is terrific. yeah, he is. i'm a big fan of his. he is. the way he says "yes" is really, really well done. i have to say that the performances are terrific.
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i mean, emma thompson, i'm a huge fan of anyway, and she's really great in this role. it's hard to think of many other people who could carry this role. what then happens is that as part of this case of having to rule about the 17—year—old boy who doesn't want the blood transfusion, she makes the strange decision to go to the hospital to see him, which is unusual. and that encounter with him sparks something with him, if you're aware of things like enduring love, you'll be aware of those ideas of a very short encounter coming to mean something much more. what the film is really about is about the way in which her marriage is sort of falling apart and somewhere else in her life, something else — and all these things are colliding. what i like about the film is that, you know, it's notjudgemental about the characters. i think it is a very good portrayal of people being shut out of their marriage by work. i also think that it deals, you know, in a very sort of sensible way with some very complex issues. however, i think the performances are better than the film itself. i think there are moments, there's one moment — a lot of emma thompson's performance is very restrained,
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you know, she telegraphs a lot with very little, but there are also moments in which she has kind of like an emotional breakdown, which reminded me oddly enough of that brilliant scene in love actually, in which she goes off in the bedroom and cries. 0h, superb, yes. however, there are other things about the film which also reminded me of love actually, and not in a good way. there are certain moments in which the drama, i think, is melodramatic, cheesy, doesn't work, and isn't particularly sort of well structured. so i think what it is is really well played and i'd certainly recommend seeing it for those performances alone. i think there are some problems with the writing and the direction can feel a little bit staid. and i'm wondering how filmic it is, because as i was reading the novel, i thought "oh, you could see this, dare i say, as a television drama." you know, ifelt that, in a good way, as i was reading it, i felt... that is a really interesting point because there are definitely moments watching the film in which televisual is the sense that you get from it. i know actually, nowadays of course, television is as cinematic as cinema itself... that's true, yes... ..but there are moments in it which you think, "this isn't coming to life as a film, but that's — that is balanced by the fact
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the performances are so good." yeah. i mean even from just watching that clip, i could tell you were enjoying it, and you can see how well those relationships... and i have not seen the pre—screening because i was told that would end in divorce because we both have to go and see it... 0k. so this is why i haven't seen it, so we're still going. it's definitely worth seeing, i just have reservations about the writing and directing, but no reservations at all about the performances. all right, 0k, well, it's on the list for the bank holiday weekend. alpha, your second choice. so this is an odd one. it's the new film by albert hughes, one half of the hughes brothers, who back in the ‘90s made dead presidents, which is one of the great overlooked movies of the ‘90s, a real masterpiece. set 20,000 years ago, a young man, played by kodi smit—mcphee, goes on a hunting trip. he hasn't yet learnt to kill, and he is lost and left for dead. he's attacked by a pack of wolves. he wounds one of the wolves and then befriends it, and then it becomes a story of a boy and his dog on a quest to get back home. there are some remarkable things about it, certainly in terms of the visuals.
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there's very, very little dialogue, what dialogue there is is subtitled, but it's really a bit of visual storytelling, and visually, it is very arresting. there are moments in it in which it kind of — it wanders a little bit off the beaten track and it becomes slightly almost hallucinatory, which i rather like and i do think that albert hughes is a very talented director. however, it has to be said, this has been sitting around for, i think, it's about a year. it was originally meant to be released about a year ago. there was some controversy as well about animal rights on the set and so, it has had a sort of strange route to the screen. i think there are things in it that are — that are very impressive. and as i said, as its heart, it is the story of a boy and his dog on a quest, and that happens to be a story that i'm a sucker for. well, i am too, as you know... yeah. ..so i may well enjoy that one. and goodness, well, it's the new spike lee. the new spike lee, tell us all. well, he's back in full force. this is based on the stranger—than—fiction story of ron stallworth.
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john david washington is stallworth, who in the 1970s becomes — he joins the formerly all—white colorado springs police force and he decides to infiltrate the ku klux klan, and he — initially he gets an advert from the press with the phone number, and he rings up and says "i'm a white supremacist and i want tojoin the klan", and they believe him, and he starts working his way right up the chain, right up to david duke, grand wizard. but when it comes to actual face—to—face meetings, of course, they have to get somebody else to play ron, so what they do is they pull in his partner, flip, played by adam driver, who isjewish, and they say "ok, well, i'll do the voice on the phone, you do it in person". but they have very different, initially very different, attitudes to the case. here's a clip. well, i'm not risking my life to prevent some rednecks from lighting a couple of sticks on fire. this is the job. what's your problem? that's my problem. for you, it's a crusade. for me, it's a job. it's not personal, nor should it be. why haven't you bought into this? why should i? because you're jewish, brother. the so—called chosen people.
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you've been passing for a wasp. white anglo—saxon protestant, cherry pie, hot dog, white boy. that's what some light—skinned black folks do — they pass for white. i thought this was really good. firstly, it's a film of balancing acts. the central balancing act is between humour and horror, and it's no surprise to discover that it's produced byjordan peele, who made get out, which of course was a horror film that was submitted to one of the awards as a comedy, and thenjordan peele said, actually, "it's a documentary". and of course there is documentary in this, it takes an historical story and brings it right up to date with, you know, shocking footage of charlottesville, and it's very, very contemporary — i mean, the issue of neo—nazis and extreme right—wingers is still very, very contemporary. but this could be a deeply serious film throughout. that is what you would expect, given the subject. and what he manages to do — because they say at the beginning it's based on some for—real, for—real stuff, meaning you could hardly believe that some of this happened and it does play fast and loose with the truth — it takes the story and fictionalises it.
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but what it does is, in much the same way as get out, it balances those two elements, and the balancing act, i to have to say, is brilliantly done. i mean, i think this is spike lee's best film since four little girls because it's very hard to get that balance right. there were moments in the screening that i saw in which people were belly laughing, and there were moments in which people were hiding their faces and recoiling because you are dealing with some really, really, you know, profoundly disturbing stuff. and it's an angry film, it's a film which, although it's set in the past, in the 1970s, feels urgently contemporary. i love the look of it, i love the fact that it actually looks like a film made in the 1970s. spike lee has cited things like serpico and french connection and dog day afternoon as kind of visual cues for it, and the performances are really great. adam driver, john david washington in the centre of it, john david washington is brilliant, i mean, carrying this drama. and again, he's also at the centre of balancing the humour and the horror. i thought it was really remarkable and i think you'll like it. ok, i certainly did like what you've chosen as best 0ut.
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yeah, i'm sorry... oh, my goodness! i'm back, you see? you're back to mamma mia, you can't give it up. but i sobbed, i sobbed. i do, and my love, my life... oh, i know. i was gone. what makes it so brilliant is if it didn't have that emotional sucker punch, it wouldn't be half the film that it is. it's not just that you smile and all the rest of it, it's that when you weep, you weep buckets. i thought it was — i thought it was really good. it does what a film's meant to do — is it reaches in and it grabs you by the heartstrings. it was, dare i say, so much better than i expected. yeah. and that's a plaudit in itself. i know! no, absolutely, and believe me, i went in thinking "this can't, this isn't gonna work, i mean there's no way that the godfather 2 structure can work with mamma mia" and you come out saying, i just want to go see it again and again and again. you do. a very quick thought about dvd? yeah, so in the fade, which is a hamburg—set revenge thriller. diane kruger won a best actress award at cannes a year ago now, or two years maybe, and i think it's really worth it
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for her performance. it's about her husband gets murdered, neo—nazis are implicated, the law fails her and she takes the law into their own hands. her performance is brilliant. the film, actually rather like children act, has some flaws, but she carries it shoulder high and it is worth seeing for her performance. all right. mark, lovely to have you back. thank you very much indeed. see you soon. thank you. and all our previous programmes are on the iplayer, of course. thanks for being with us. bye— bye. hello. it's been a very wet sunday across much of the uk, part of pembrokeshire have seen over 20 millimetres of rain. more rain in the forecast this afternoon, and it's all coming courtesy of a frontal system working its way east, with rain and strong winds. we will still see some strong gusts,
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particularly for southern and western coasts through the rest of the afternoon. you can see how extensive the rain has been stretching down towards the south coast of england, but now starting to get drier. slowly the heaviest of the rain will be working its way eastwards over the next few hours. the raina eastwards over the next few hours. the rain a little bit more patch it up the rain a little bit more patch it up through the midlands into northern england and scotland, but still a lot of cloud following on behind. these are the average speeds, but the gusts will continue to be strongerfor a speeds, but the gusts will continue to be stronger for a time this afternoon, particularly along channel coast, where they could reach a0 or 50 mph. a very cool feel, 1a—18dc. so finally the heaviest of the rain clears away, and later this evening it will keep and later this evening it will keep a few showers going through northern ireland and scotland, but elsewhere a mainly dry night with clearer skies at times. it won't be quite as
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cool skies at times. it won't be quite as cool. it will feel a little warmer over the next few days, some sunshine around and some occasional rain, and for tomorrow, away from scotla nd rain, and for tomorrow, away from scotland being a bank holiday, any rain will be in the form of scattered showers feeding across a brisk west or north westerly wind, but not as strong gusty yesterday. many places will avoid the showers, and there will be bright and sunny spells coming through making temperatures 15 to 20 celsius. through tomorrow evening, the cloud will break, and most of us will have a dry night. cloud arriving into northern and western scotland going into tuesday, and that is because the frontal system will be inching its way towards us in bringing some outbreaks of rain the further north and west you are through tuesday afternoon. in the south and east it should be mainly dry, spells of sunshine and feeling a little warmer. this is bbc news.
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i'm annita mcveigh, live in dublin. the headlines at three o'clock. a mass led by the pope at phoenix park in dublin is due to begin shortly. huge crowds have gathered to see him arrive. earlier, he visited the shrine of knock and begged for god's forgiveness over sex abuse allegations linked to the catholic church in ireland. this open wound challenges us to be firm and decisive in the pursuit of truth and justice. an estimated half a million people have gathered at phoenix park in dublin despite the challenging weather.

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