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hello, it's wednesday, it's 9 o'clock. i'm victoria derbyshire, good morning "your heart breaks every second". in herfirst british interview, the us mum of a nine—year—old boy who took his own life last week, because she says he was bullied for being gay, talks exclusively to us about her pain and heartbreak. do you want to know what it's like to be dead while you're still alive? lose a child. it's painful. your heart breaks every second. you can hear that full exclusive interview with leia rochelle pierce at 10.10 this morning. have you or someoen in your family been bullied for being gay? have you or someone in your family been bullied for being gay? do share your experiences this morning. the app designed to stop you getting pregnant hasn't stopped some women getting pregnant. today, the advertising watchdog says the natural cycles app can no longer claim to be "highly effective" after too many women conceived by mistake. i was sort of sucked
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in to this 99% effective, even more effective than the pill. i mean, what could possibly go wrong? in a few minutes, you can hear more from rebecca woodhead, who's 26 and due to give birth soon. and if you used this app and became pregnant when you didn't plan to, let me know. and we'll hearfrom one british man who as a child was sent by the british government to live in australia half a century ago who wants to know why hasn't yet received compensation. home is a place where kids are nurtured and loved... and that never happened. you can watch that full interview in around half an hour's time. hello. welcome to the programme.
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we're live until 11 this morning. something else we are talking about this morning between 9:30am and 10am. are you a teenager who drinks and smokes? or are you a teenager who's decided it's not for you? it's becoming less common, but a new report says a combination of drinking and smoking can lead to young people's arteries being damaged by the age of 17. we will talk to some 17—year—olds after half past nine. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about. use the hashtag victoria live. if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you — and maybe want to take part in the programme — please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you ll be charged at the standard network rate. in herfirst british interview, the us mother of a nine—year—old boy who says her son took his own life after enduring homophobic bullying at school has told this programme that she never wants any other child or parent to go through what her family is experiencing. before he returned to school after the summer holidays,
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jamel myles from colorado had told his mother he was "proud of who he was" and wanted to tell his classmates. jamel‘s mother says that before he died, children at his school had told him to kill himself. tomorrow is the last day i get to see my son. and it's not fair and ifeel so bad for any other parent who has experienced this, and i never ever want anyone to experience this. i never want a child to feel alone. i never want parents to feel broken. i want everyone to feel loved. my son said he wanted to make a change in this world and he wanted to show people love, and he can't speak right now but i'm speaking words he spoke for everyone to hear because everyone needs to hear it because a gentle, kind souljust left this world because of something so cruel, and i want my son to know that he made a change for the better
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because of his genuine person. and we'll bring you all of that very emotive interview just after 10. a statement on behalf of the school said, "we are deeply committed to ensuring that all members of our school community are treated with dignity and respect, regardless of sexual orientation, gender identity or transgender status... we also know, however, that we as a society have a long way to go to ensure that no child ever is bullied or treated with disrespect because of their self—identification". joanna gosling is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. there are calls for ministers to address what's being called a "crisis in children's mental health", after a study found that almost a quarter of girls aged 1a said they'd deliberately harmed themselves. research by the charity, the children's society,
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found that gender stereotypes and worries about appearance were contributing to unhappiness, as ricky boleto reports. bethany, this is your microphone. bethany started self harming when she was 13. it is something she is happy to talk about today. she wants to open up to other young people. i don't think there was really a reason why, but the bullying made me feel really, really depressed, so i think that was kind of a response for me. it was something i could control. starting secondary school was difficult. bethany said she felt isolated. she kept what she was doing a secret from her mum. i got a phone call from her teacher when i was on the bus on my way home from work. he said, "i need to have a chat with you". and he told me that he had found out that day that beth was self harming, and so that was a bit of a shock.
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five years on, she has stopped harming herself with the support of the harmless charity. i think there are a lot of reasons why, the pressure of school themselves, with having the gcses and all of the work that we have, it can be quite stressful. definitely social media, we see a lot of things where, "you should look like this, you should wear that, you should have this make up". there is a lot of stigma associated with how girls should carry themselves. the children's society surveyed more than 11,000 children about their lives. they say a closer look at the data suggests one in four girls aged 1a had self harmed last year. across genders, one in six reported self harming at the same age, and from that, the charity estimates that 110,000 14—year—olds all over the uk may have self harmed in the last 12 months. what we found is that since 2009, children have become more unhappy with their lives overall,
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and particularly that has been driven by girls feeling more and more unhappy with their appearance. the government say they are spending £1.11 billion transforming young people's mental health by 2020, with an additional £300 million to provide more help in schools. so how have you been drawing? years. i used to do it when i was little. bethany is focusing on the future. of course, the scars won't disappear. her recovery is ongoing. i feel really confident now. iam happy. i feel i have got myself back. and if you have been affected by any of the issues raised, you can find details of organisations which offer advice and support on the bbc action line website at bbc.co.uk/actionline. a mother and daughter killed in a suspected double murder in solihull were on the phone to police as they were attacked, according to detectives. police are continuing to search
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for 21—year—old janbaz tarin, after his former partner 22—year—old raneem 0odeh and her mother, 49—year—old khaola saleem, were fatally attacked in the early hours of bank holiday monday. an advert on facebook for an app that provides a natural alternative to contraception has been banned by the uk's advertising standards authority. claims that it was "highly accurate" and "provided a clinically tested alternative to other birth control methods" were found to be misleading. the swedish firm behind the natural cycles app says it respects the outcome of the investigation. rebecca woodhead got pregnant while using the app. as much as i am excited, you know, i'm only 26. a lot of my friends are just starting to get engaged and everything but no one is having babies. you know, i'm sort of trying to meet people on basically tinder for mums and things like that so i can have someone to talk to. you can see more of rebecca's story in just a few minutes' time,
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when we'll also be speaking to the advertising standards authority and a gp. theresa may will visit africa's biggest economy, nigeria, this morning on the second day of a trade mission to africa aimed at strengthening economic ties ahead of brexit. the prime minister announced £4 billion of extra british support for african economies during the first leg of her trip on tuesday. mrs may will also meet victims of modern slavery and unveil a series of measures to cut illegal migration into europe from west africa. the arteries of teenagers who drink and smoke show signs of hardening even by the age of 17, according to new research published in the european heartjournal. this can be an indicator that blood vessels are being damaged, increasing the likelihood of heart disease or stroke in later life, but the impact can be reversed if teenagers give up the habit. the estimated number of people killed by hurricane maria in puerto rico last september has risen to almost 3,000, according to local officials.
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the authorities have faced criticism for under—reporting the true death toll in the most powerful storm to hit the region in nearly 90 years. the revised number is almost 50 times higher than the previous official count of 64. 0fficial warning letters have been sent to some company pension schemes telling them to take extra care with staff members wanting to remove their funds. there has been a sharp rise in the number of people cashing in valuable salary—linked retirement pots and managing the money themselves. the pension regulator warns that overly generous pay—outs could damage the schemes' remaining funds. british fishermen are asking for government protection after being attacked by their french counterparts off the coast of normandy. 35 french vessels gathered on monday night to stop british scallop dredgers, who they claim are "pillaging" the shellfish stocks. the local fisherman threw rocks and smoke bombs to deter the british boats, despite them being legally entitled to fish in the area. that's a summary of the latest bbc news.
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more at 9.30. we're going to show you now some images of jamel myles from denver in colarado. jamel told his mum in the summer holidays he was proud of who he was. he went back to school on monday, august 20th. four days later, his mum discovered his lifeless body in their hone. she says he took his own life after he was subjected to homophobic bullying. we've been speaking to his mum, leia rochelle pierce. it's her first british interview. we are going to play it for you just after 10am, around ten past. it is utterly heartbreaking. she's absolutely devastated, as you can imagine. she blames herself for her son's death. but incredibly, she has a very
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powerful and articulate message to young gay people and parents everywhere. we will bring you that interview after the 10am news and sport so stay tuned for that. we also wanted to ask if you have been bullied because you are gay. if you felt he wanted to share your own experience, please do. —— you want. use the hashtage victoria live, and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. if you include your phone number, it will indicate you wish to take part in the programme. let's get some sport. 0lly foster is at the bbc sport centre, 0lly. it's all over forjohanna konta at the us open and a lot of players have been struggling with the heat. good morning. stifling temperatures in new york, 38 degreees and 50 degree humidity, they are struggling with that, perhaps more than the heat. johanna konta complained that her eyes were still burning when she stepped off court, but she didn't blame the heat for the defeat to caroline garcia. she was simply outplayed by the frenchwoman. konta is on a terrible run of form
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at grand slams since reaching last year's wimbledon semifinal. from a career high numberfour in the world, she is only just inside the top 50, which is why she got such a tough draw, beaten in straight sets by the sixth seed garcia. so there are no british women left in the singles draw. those temperatures saw five "heat—related retirements" in the men's draw. wimbledon champion novak djokovic had the ice towels out during his four—set win against marton fuscovics as for the first time an extreme heat policy is in place for the men. after the third set, they were allowed to go off court for ten minutes and had an ice bath, and in djokovic's words "we were naked in the ice baths. it was a magnificent feeling, i must say, to be naked with the guy you are still battling when the match hasn't finished,"
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no, we were not both in one ice bath. i said that very clearly. there were two ice baths next to each other. 45 seconds or one minute and that is it, you get out. it's just to kind of shock your body in a way because it was so warm, it feels like everything is boiling in your body. i'm glad he cleared that up about theice i'm glad he cleared that up about the ice baths! also wins for roger federer and maria sharapova overnight. catch up with all the results on bbc sport website. there's a big decision to be made in scottish football today? the scottish fa board are meeting today to discuss two options, stay in glasgow at their spiritual home, hampden park, or move to edinburgh to play international matches and cup finals at murrayfield, home of scottish rugby. it's a very emotive issue, but it's being driven by financial considerations. hampden‘s owners are queens park, the amateur football club that also play there.
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the lease is up in 2020 and there is an offer on the table for the scottish fa to buy hampden outright, but there are redevelopment costs to consider, and upkeep, which is expensive, which is why the much bigger murrayfield has become an option. edinburgh council say that the the stadium has come up with a comprehensive and compelling bid. that's not a perfect satdium for football either, as fans would be a long way from the pitch. but a big decision for the scottish fa and there could be a big backlash if they move away from glasgow and hampden park and go and play at the home of rugby. donald trump has met perhaps the most powerful president in sport?|j am most powerful president in sport?” am sure he is. gianni infantino, fifa president was invited to the white house, this off the back of the us, canada and mexico winning with that "united bid" to host the 2026 world cup.
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donald trump won't be president then, but this was a good photo opportunity to be had in the oval office. yellow cards and red cards. a yellow ca rd yellow cards and red cards. a yellow card is a warning. and when you want to kick out someone... you show them that. laughter that's true. president trump actually sailed a bit close to the wind during the bidding process, making some pretty thinly veiled threats to voting nations, about what would happen if they went with morocco, but they didn't. so he got his shirt with 26 on it for 2026, and he also got a shirt with 45 on it. what is the relevance of 45? erm. .. i don't know. i had to look it up as well, he's the 45th president of the united states, of course! but a good
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photo opportunity for donald trump who will probably keep the red card! it's just gone 9:15am. good it'sjust gone 9:15am. good morning. if you're a women between 20 and 40, chances are you've seen adverts for a contraception app called natural cycles. it's heavily promoted on facebook, instagram and youtube, and now has more than 250,000 users in the uk. the app claims to tell women when they're fertile so they can avoid getting pregnant. but it's currently being investigated in sweden, where nearly 200 women have reported unwanted pregnancies. now the advertising watchdog here has ruled that some of the claims it's made on social media about how effective it is have been exgaggerated and are misleading. it says the app can no longer claim to be highly effective. 0ur reporterjean mackenzie has been to meet one woman, rebecca woodhead, who got pregnant while using the app. when did it all start to feel real?
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probably this scan. that's the 12 week one, so the first one where it actually looks like a human. but when the kicking started, i think that was... i mean, that was like... "whoa, what is that?" how many months are you now? i'm 34 weeks, so, yeah, about five to go. rebecca wasn't planning on having her first child for a few years. i was looking for a sort of alternative to hormonal contraception at the time. i suffer from depression and anxiety and hormone related contraception just seemed to really escalate that.
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she came across the contraceptive app natural cycles, which tracks women's fertility over the month and tells them when they can and can't get pregnant. she said she started using it after seeing an advert on instagram claiming it was 99% effective. was it based on that 99% that you decided to use it? yeah. i was sort of sucked into this 99% effective, you know, even more effective than the pill. i mean, what could possibly go wrong? right, sorry about the mess. it's a tip. obviously, we are moving. rebecca says she's been following the instructions perfectly for three months when she found out she was pregnant. so these are... some presents from work. i think this might have to be the going—home outfit. aw! hi, world! just talk to me about the impact this has had on you over the last eight months.
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it has been quite high stress levels. erm, because we are selling the flat at the moment and then trying to buy somewhere new and we're going to have to move back in with mum temporarily. yeah, just, you know, everything all at once. well, because you weren't ready for it? exactly. as much as i am excited, you know, i'm only 26. a lot of my friends are just starting to get engaged and everything but no one is having babies. you know, i'm sort of trying to meet people on basically tinder for mums and things like that so i can have someone to talk to. you know, there's just quite a few things that i would have liked to have done, in my career as well, to sort of be in a slightly further ahead in that than i am.
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there's been a lot of, you know, things that i might... would have done differently. i guess it'sjust the decision being taken out of your hands. yeah, completely, and that is it. that was something i found really unfair. yeah, i have days where i'm, like, "oh, that stupid app!" and i am really annoyed about it. but... but everything happens for a reason and i know that's so cheesy and i... but i have to believe that. will you use the app again to try and prevent a pregnancy in the future? erm, no. i may use it to get pregnant! butl... no, i won't. i don't think there was much more we could have done and i don't, i still don't know why
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it didn't work. the advertising watchdog has ruled that the app cannot be marketed as "highly" or "99% effective" because the evidence from users shows there is in fact a 7% chance of getting pregnant. the company says it has removed the advert in question and many of its current adverts now reflect this. if you had been sold it as seven out of 100 women every year will get pregnant using this, would you have used it? erm, no. i mean, seven out of a hundred seems quite scary. do you feel that the app let you down? well, yes, i mean, if you're telling me now that they've changed the stats to say that it is 93% effective, whereas a year or so ago, when i saw it on instagram, i was led to believe it was 99% effective, then, yes, ithink
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that is definitely misleading. as that happened to you? we can speak now tojessica tye from the advertising standards authority who ran the investigation into this app, and a gp, dr philippa kaye. welcome to both of you. the complaints were that the app prevented itself —— presented itself as being highly effective and clinically tested. both those things not true? so we received complaints about facebook advert for natural cycles that included the claim is highly accurate contraceptive app and also refer to the fact it was clinically tested. we conducted an investigation into the claims and we sought evidence from the advertiser for the claims. highly accurate is the really key claim that we focused on and they sent us evidence that
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related to the many thousands of users of the app and that showed there was a really big difference in how effective the app is, when you look at whether or not people followed the instructions perfectly oi’ followed the instructions perfectly or whether you look at how people actually used it in reality and actually, the evidence showed the vast majority of people were not using it perfectly. i think over 90% of cycles were not perfect use so we considered that was the most releva nt considered that was the most relevant evidence and actually, it showed it was not highly accurate when we looked at how people were using it in reality. nearly 8% of women would get pregnant in a year if they were using it in the way that most women were using it. we found the claim it was a highly accurate contraceptive app was misleading. but had women used it properly, it would have been highly accurate? the evidence suggested that it would be highly accurate if
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you were using it absolutely perfectly. it wouldn't be 100% accurate, pretty much no contraceptive method is. of course. 0ne contraceptive method is. of course. one of the key things with this app is it requires a lot of user input so is it requires a lot of user input so you have to take your temperature every day and put that into the app, and if there is something else going on like you are unwell or perhaps you've got a hangover, you know, there might be lots of things that would mean it would throw the app off. 0k. do you think this is like the rhythm method for the app generation? absolutely and the rhythm method isn't great and if anything, sometimes, we don't normally recommended but some women who are trying to have babies track their body temperature as a way of helping them have babies, not as contraception. this is not very reliable at all. when we look at contraception, we look at typical use versus contraception, we look at typical use versus perfect use contraception, we look at typical use vei’sus pei’fect use so contraception, we look at typical use versus perfect use so if we were all robot and always that our pill
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and condom is never broke, that is perfect use but typical use isn't like that. some people forget. as doctors, we recommend the ones where there is very little user input which makes us all more towards perfect use. this has a lot of user input, this app and also it relies oi'i woitiei'i input, this app and also it relies on women having the same kind of cycle every month. you are supposed to put in your data for three months but not every woman has a perfect 28 day cycle. why do you think these kind of apps are so popular? first, i think it was misleading in what it says and i think almost how bad press, i think people think about the older generation pill, where the hormones in them where a bit clunky and not as modern as now. there are coi'icei’i'is and not as modern as now. there are concerns that women used to have about weight gain and mood changes. when what they were taking the pill? as the interview explains and we have modern pills that don't have side effects but the long acting, reversible forms of contraception
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which use lower doses of hormones or evei'i i'ioi'ie which use lower doses of hormones or even none at all and those are the oi'ies we even none at all and those are the ones we would recommend but most importantly, nothing protects you against an std apart from a condom. getting pregnant when you don't want to get pregnant, while using a app which is supposed to help you not get pregnant is a very serious consequence of misleading advertising. what is the sanction on this company? the sanction if they cannot use that advert again. we know they withdrew it very soon after we contacted them. is that it? well, the main sanction is that they mustn't repeat those claims and also that we obviously publicise our findings. we know this has received a lot of publicity which obviously helps women do, where of our findings in this case. so ultimately, it might be commercially damaging. certainly, that is potentially the case. the company
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says, "we respect the outcome of the investigation by the uk advertising standards authority into one facebook ad which ran for approximately four weeks in mid-2017, approximately four weeks in mid—2017, the investigation was initiated nearly 12 months ago and the advert was removed as soon as we we i’e the advert was removed as soon as we were notified of the complaint. we are committed to being open and transparent in communications to ensure our message transparent in communications to ensure oui’ message is transparent in communications to ensure our message is clear and provides women with the information they need to determine if natural cycles is right for them. as part of these efforts, every advert undergoes a strict approval process". i mean, the studies on this so far have been done by the companies themselves also —— company themselves. there is independent research yet. that should be a health warning, shouldn't it? absolutely, and we do know the pregnancy risks for natural methods, whether it is measuring body temperature or checking your survival mucus or counting days and we survival mucus or counting days and we know they don't work particularly well. —— cervical mucus. 24 out of
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every 100 women using that four—year will become pregnant so that is not brilliant numbers in comparison to something like the coil or implant where less than one in a hundred women pei’ where less than one in a hundred women per year become pregnant. thank you forjoining us. it's been revealed that a woman, who was killed with her mother in solihull in the west midlands on monday — was on the phone to police when she was attacked. police are still trying to track down a man in connection with the double murder of 22—year—old raneem 0udeh and her mother khaola saleem. let's get the latest from our correspondent amy cole. reaction to this revelation from the police. it is simply awful, isn't it? west midlands police are still desperate to find 21—year—old janbaz tarin who they believe is responsible for murdering his ex—girlfriend, raneem 0udeh, and her mother, khaola saleem, both women we i’e mother, khaola saleem, both women were found with serious stab wounds
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in north down road in solihull in the early hours of monday morning. as you say, it has emerged that raneem 0udeh a was on the bone to police at the time that she was attacked and —— was on the phone to police. police say she had made several calls to them on sunday evening and they had tried to physically locate her but it had proved unsuccessful. it is only when the situation escalated that officers were dispatched and they arrived within minutes. very sadly, both women were confirmed dead at the scene. we understand raneem a mother of a two—year—old son although the suspect is not the father and khaola saleem was a mother of six. both women were born in syria but they had lived in the ukfora number of in syria but they had lived in the uk for a number of years. janbaz tarin is an afghan national living in the uk legally. they are desperately trying to find him. they have seized a number of computers and mobile phones, police, from properties in birmingham but they
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are warning people that anyone caught shielding janbaz tarin will be prosecuted. there's been quite a lot of public response or possible sightings but he remains at large and anyone who sees him is being asked not to approach him but to call 999 immediately. postmortem examinations are being carried out on the bodies and we are still waiting for the official results of those. i was in the neighbourhood on monday and spoke to a number of the residents who arejust monday and spoke to a number of the residents who are just shocked and saddened by what has happened. in a statement, the family has said of the lost that it is devastating and heartbreaking. west midlands police have referred themselves to the independent police complaints authority as a result of this information that the young woman was on the phone to officers when she was attacked. that absolutely right. asi was attacked. that absolutely right. as i said, she had made a number of calls to them late sunday evening. and they had tried to find her but
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they couldn't and it's only when things got really bad that they sent officers out to the location at north down road. thank you for joining us. still to come — more than 100 britons sent abroad as children under a settlement scheme are suing the government over they abuse the suffered. the independent inquiry into child sex abuse ruled that they should recieve compensation within a year, but five months on and no scheme has been set up. we'll hear from one claimant who now lives back in the uk. and a new health warning for teenagers who drink and smoke. there are trees are beginning to harden by the age of 17. if you are such a teenager, stay tuned. time for the latest news — here'sjoanna. in herfirst british interview, the us mother of a nine—year—old boy, who says her son took his own life after enduring homophobic bullying at school, has told this programme that she never wants any other child or parent to go through what her family is experiencing. jamel myles, from colorado, had told his mother that he was gay over the summer holidays
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and told her that he wanted to tell his classmates when he returned to school. but she says that he was bullied at his school in denver, and that children there had told him to kill himself. there are calls for ministers to address what's being called a "crisis in children's mental health", after a study found that almost a quarter of girls aged 14 said they'd deliberately harmed themselves. the children's society says early support for vulnerable children and their families is vital, but councils don't have the funding. the department of health said it is investing an extra £300 million in mental health services in schools. a mother and daughter killed in a suspected double murder in solihull, were on the phone to police as they were attacked, according to detectives. police are continuing to search for 21—year old janbaz tarin, after his former partner, 22—year—old raneem 0udeh and her mother, 49—year—old khaola saleem, were fatally attacked in the early hours of bank holiday monday. an advert on facebook
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for an app that provides a natural alternative to contraception has been banned by the uk's advertising standards authority. claims that it was "highly accurate" and "provided a clinically tested alternative to other birth control methods" were found to be misleading. the swedish firm behind the natural cycles app says it respects the outcome of the investigation. the arteries of teenagers who drink and smoke show signs of hardening even by the age of 17, according to new research published in the european heartjournal. this can be an indicator that blood vessels are being damaged, increasing the likelihood of heart disease or stroke in later life. but the impact can be reversed if teenagers give up the habit. british fishermen are asking for government protection, after being attacked by their french counterparts off the coast of normandy. 35 french vessels gathered on monday night to stop british scallop dredgers, who they claim are "pillaging" the shellfish stocks. the local fisherman threw rocks and smokebombs to deter the british boats, despite them being legally entitled to fish in the area. that's a summary
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of the latest bbc news. here's some sport now with 0lly. these are our headlines. british number one johanna konta is these are our headlines. british number onejohanna konta is out of the us open, beaten in the first round by caroline garcia. no british women left. andy murray and cameron norrie play later today. the high temperatures in new york have seen the men allowed a ten minute break for the first time. novak djokovic took an ice bath during his victory. five men retired because of heat related issues. the scottish fa will decide today whether to stay at their spiritual home, hampden park in glasgow, or move internationals to murrayfield in edinburgh. and last night's league cup, west ham came from behind to beat wimbledon 3-1. came from behind to beat wimbledon 3—1. theirfirst came from behind to beat wimbledon 3—1.theirfirstwin of came from behind to beat wimbledon 3—1. their first win of the season. premier league cardiff and
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huddersfield lost to chamat czech teams. back with more after ten. this text on the natural cycles app. "i tried it after finding the all—male contraception completely tolerable. profumo and i felt i have contraception completely tolerable. profumo and ifelt i have myself back until i fell pregnant. i sought an abortion in contacted the company discovered what had gone wrong but they wouldn't refund me for the remainder of my contract. they also continued to send mr —— distressingly e—mails congratulating number pregnancy. " if distressingly e—mails congratulating number pregnancy." if you have used the app and then became pregnant when you didn't plan to, let me know. share your experience. we also wa nt to know. share your experience. we also want to talk to you if you have been bullied for being gay. we bring you oui’ bullied for being gay. we bring you our exclusive interview with the mum ofa our exclusive interview with the mum of a nine—year—old boy who took his own life last week after she says he was subjected to homophobic bullying. that is after ten o'clock. a group of more than 100 people forcibly sent abroad as child migrants, are suing the british government for compensation.
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they were sent to australia and parts of the british empire in march, the international inquiry into child sexual abuse — which was set up by the government — said that the surviving child migrants, about 2,000 people, should receive compensation, but nothing has been done. john glynn was one of those children — sent to australia at the age of eight. we're about to hearfrom him now. and to let you know, in case you have children with you or you don t want to watch, our interview with him contains descriptions of physical and sexual abuse. radio: the liner asturia arrives at fremantle from great britain with 931 new migrants for this country. i remember asking the lady what language they speak, in australia. and they said we are going to have a wonderful time, we are going to have sunshine and racehorses and play cricket and football and do all of these nice things and overall it wasn't a very nice place at all.
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when we got there they told us to take all the clothes we had with us and chuck them to one side and they gave us these clothes to wear which was a khaki shirt and a pair of trousers and no underwear, no nothing, that's all we had. and i remember i was carrying a photo of my mother, one of the christian brothers just took that from me and said you wouldn't need that any more and threw it across the floor. they actually said to us, i remember brother doyle saying, we were in the hall there, they had a hall there and he says, he said some things like the reason you are here and they wanted you, you are the dregs of the community, you are dragging everybody down. just nobody wanted you. and that was... this thing and the often said to the kids there, you are going to end up injail and a lot of them did of course after a while.
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a lot of suicides and a lot of... drug addicts, and drugs and alcohol, there was physical abuse and there was sexual abuse, especially from a brother called brother murphy, he was very famous. he was convicted of child molestation, paedophilia, and he died, he was convicted but he died before he was sentenced so he got away with it. and he used to have lots of kids in his room. he never had me in his room, he molested me in bed, he did that two, maybe three times. i think the second or third time i told them to... very bluntly to go away sort of thing. i did mention it to brother doyle, the brother, and i think i mentioned it to a few other people, and nothing was ever done. so there were orange trees
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on the property and i went and grabbed a couple of oranges and somebody told brother doyle he belted hell out of me. he got that mad that the kids were saying, "let him go, stop, stop!" eventually i ran away, couldn't take any more. he belted me that much, it was really a whipping, i reckon it went on for a good five or ten minutes nonstop, swinging the cane. they didn't care. you know. you were just...they were getting paid to look after us and they were just happy to get the money i think, they didn't give two stuffs about us at all. they called it a home. i never
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called it a home. it was a detention centre. a home is a place where kids are nurtured and loved. and that never happened. you had your mates but you never got to have a friend, proper friend. you used to play with them, play football with them, associate with them, but you never made a friend. i've often thought about that over the years. that was it, really, it was just not a friendly place, not a nice place to be. all i ever thought about when i was there was the day i was going to leave. why my mum put me in a home, i really don't know. she took it to the grave, actually. never even talked to her family about her... her brothers and sisters, she never told them why.
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and my other brother, my brother peter, she did the same with him and he doesn't know why he was put in a home. he was lucky because his grandparents came and got him and i was... they were at that get me because in the meantime i had been shipped out to australia. i often think about what would have happened to me if i'd have stayed in england. i think about that a lot now. they sort of... took my childhood from me, they took my country from me, my heritage. but i survived, and i have made the best of a bad thing, really, and i think i have done all right. my kids have done well, thank god.
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they turned out really good. they all got good jobs. that is the main thing! they all got good jobs. that is the main thing i am proud of, really. as a rule i don't talk to people much. i don't have many friends. i met my brother for the first time, i met... peter and then i met john at the same time but i never met neil, my other brother. and i met my aunties and uncles and i didn't think anybody had so much family. having nobody for, what, 53 years and then all of a sudden you have them coming out of the woodwork everywhere. they wanted to see me and meet me, we had a big family get—together, there must have been 200 there i reckon.
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at this pub in hull. it was great. the british government don't seem interested at the moment, to me theyjust want to let it go, they don't, i think they wanted all swept under the carpet. hopefully everyone of us will die in the meantime, probably. all the problems that the kids who were sent out from england have had to put up with since they were here and i suppose a lot of them are just like me. and i think a little bit of compensation might help a little bit. 0ur reporter sanchia berg is here with more details. are they going to get this compensation? well, that is why they have brought this court case. it is
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eight years since gordon brown as prime ministerformally eight years since gordon brown as prime minister formally apologised for the policy. he said it was the first half of the process. it is nearly six months since the government's on enquiry into child six abuse said, absolutely, they should get compensation. yet the government has not issued a formal response to the report. the minister said people are so busy with brexit they haven't got the energy, time to focus on other things. this action may focus the government's minds? yes, my understanding is this is largely designed to prompt the government to respond to the report and to do something. these people, many of them are very elderly and frail. since ipsa published the report, 14 of the former child migrants have died. there is a real urgency about this. thank you. coming up... we speak to the mother of a nine—year—old boy who took his own life
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after he was subjected to homophobic bullying at school. if you are a teenager who drinks alcohol and/or smokes, even occasionally, then your arteries are already beginning to stiffen by the age of 17, according to research out today. the university college london study also showed that a combination of binge—drinking and smoking was linked to even greater damage to your arteries compared with drinking and smoking separately. however, the findings, published in the european heartjournal, showed that if teenagers stop smoking and drinking during adolescence, their arteries return to normal. how realistic is it that teenagers will abstain from alcohol and cigarettes? let's talk to 17—year—old ariella, who drinks and smokes socially. toby hollins is also 17 years old — he says he's never smoked and rarely drinks. josh connolly started
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drinking at 12 years old, and smoked heavily through his teens. he gave up seven years ago when he was 24. also with us is drjames nichols from alcohol concern. first of all, how do you respond to this research today, that if you are drinking and smoking even a bit as a teenager, by 17 your arteries are starting to harden? i would say that it is quite shocking but i don't think it is particularly news in some sense that drinking and smoking are bad for you. i think it is good that people are becoming more aware. it makes you think that even drinking once now can affect you later. what about you? i think that it is again shocking in some senses but most teenagers are well aware of the fact that smoking and drinking have. although you probably don't
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know if you are 15 and having a cigarette that that is hardening your arteries by the age of 17? especially within younger teenagers, there is a certain need for conformity and to look cool. you will partake without necessarily thinking about the consequences. when you get to the slightly older and, 17, you start to think about it slightly more. i don't think it is at the forefront still. and you say that you drink and smoke socially. why do you do that? just because it is something i enjoy. it is not necessarily something i feel a need to do, to fit in. it is not necessarily a nice thing to do but it can be relaxing and itjust helps with social engagement as well. with drinking it is quite commonjust to ease social anxieties within big groups. when you go to new schools and things like that, it helps to have one common thing that everyone
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is kind of quite casual about. interesting. toby, you say that you have never smoked and you rarely drink. why? smoking something i've a lwa ys drink. why? smoking something i've always been deterred by. it doesn't interest me socially. if my friends wa nt to interest me socially. if my friends want to stand outside and happy to stand outside and smoke but i will just avoided and talk to them. drinking i agree is a social thing. when you move into sixth form and you are 16 or17, when you move into sixth form and you are 16 or 17, that is a common age for young people to start drinking alcohol. it makes it easier to talk to people. it is not something that i'm necessarily think i need to do when parties or socialising. josh, i will, the un a second. just want to bring in our doctor. this report showing it can cause damage to our arteries even by the age of 17. can you explain what impacta the age of 17. can you explain what impact a bit of smoking and drinking in adolescence can have? as your
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guests have already said, most young people realise that drinking, especially drinking heavily and certainly smoking when you are a teenager, is going to be unhealthy. this adds some new information about the heart i don't think people realise. previously we assume that you have to be smoking or drinking ovei’ a you have to be smoking or drinking overa certain you have to be smoking or drinking over a certain period of time before these effects happen. the fact they haven't quite quickly is in you finding. —— happen quite quickly. at that age people drink and also smoke for a lot of contributed reasons. health considerations, especially long—term health considerations, are not always at the forefront of people's thinking. i think the decisions people make around drinking and smoking are a lot to do with short—term health, how they feel, what their well—being, mental health, impact and oppression... those are things people generally
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make their decisions on. it's really useful to get this new information about the effects on the heart of the physiological effects as well. grace has e—mailed. she is 19 and doesn't drink or smoke. she has been in circumstances where people have tried to get to drink. an ex—partner and his friend even went so far as despite a drink with vodka. luckily she could taste it and got very annoyed. it is a choice for her and some people should respect that. that is really sensible in terms of long—term health and damage to arteries and worse. josh, you started drinking and smoking at 12. the drank and smoked heavily during your teenage age —— years for different reasons. my dad was an alcoholic when i was growing up. i lost him when i was nine. i was naturally drawn to the escape drinking offered me. it wasn't necessarily about the social aspect of it although it helped. it was more to do with how i felt and my
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emotions and the things i was struggling with. why i turned to the whole drinking and drinking and smoking and everything else that came with that. when you are under the influence of alcohol or smoking, you felt less pain? yeah. alcohol really worked for me when i was younger. and for me, because mental health and well—being wasn't really spoken about at all, there was nothing better being offered to me as such. and the scare tactics that the can have heard about alcohol when we were the can have heard about alcohol when we were younger the can have heard about alcohol when we were younger didn't seem to come true when i drink on the weekend. what were the scare tactics? we were taught that if you did it too much it would become addicted. and of course in my teens i was drinking on the weekends and not feeling like i needed to have a drink in the week. i kind of felt like i was in control. i didn't really trust what i was being fed. but also, a bit like the doctor mentioned earlier, i was acting on the ways that i felt. and so the
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physical harm it was going to cause me was never, even if it did, growing to my mind, i didn't care. fair enough. you gave up completely smoking and drinking when you were 24. what was the catalyst for that? ijust 24. what was the catalyst for that? i just recognised it 24. what was the catalyst for that? ijust recognised it was starting to get hold of me and are starting to have an adverse effect on myself and my life and the people around me. what was noticeable was that socially it was more strings to people that i don't drink than it was with how much i drink before i stopped. i was drinking in quite a chaotic way. the fact i didn't drink was kind of less socially acceptable than the ways i drink when i was drinking. you don't drink very much, either of you. you talked about it using social situations. if you didn't have a drink would people think you were odd?”
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didn't have a drink would people think you were odd? i don't think necessarily within my personal experience that i have seen the sort of peer pressure to encourage drinking. buti of peer pressure to encourage drinking. but i think there is quite a lot of general respect when you hit be late teens about the choices that you make. it's your body. now that you make. it's your body. now that we do have much better mental health awareness for teenagers, i feel like people just respect other people's choices more generally throughout, what they choose to do with the body and health mentally and physically. have you noticed a difference in terms of your health since he stopped drinking and smoking seven years ago? there is a massive difference. i was 19 and a half stone when i quit drinking. i'm sort of fortified stone heavier. in my skin colour is different. i look to do different to when i drink. do you look better or worse? i'd like
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to say better! when i was drinking i didn't look ina to say better! when i was drinking i didn't look in a good way. but apart from the superficial element, how do you feel in terms of your health?” feel much fitter and stronger. emotionally and physically. i am a pa rent emotionally and physically. i am a parent now. i notice these things a lot more. if i was feeling physically not well, i would worry about it more than i did when i was younger. of course. doctor nichols, as you heard, josh gave up 24 both drinking and smoking. is that early enough to reverse any damage she might have done on the amount of alcohol he consumed through adolescence? i think it probably is. it interesting. if you think about the liver, it is one of the organs in the body that can be healed. it can heal itself if you stop drinking. also, the findings of
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today's studies show or suggest that if people do cut down and stop drinking, some of the impacts on arterial stiffening can also be reversed. absolutely. the story is that if you do decide to cut down or to stop, there is a good chance that the effects will be halted and quite possibly reversed if you kind take up possibly reversed if you kind take upa possibly reversed if you kind take up a itioi'e possibly reversed if you kind take up a more healthy lifestyle. i don't think anybody should think it is too late, i have done all the damage and there is no point in tried to improve things. according to this research it is notjust about drinking and smoking combination —— drinking and smoking combination —— drinking and smoking leads to higher damage? that's right. we have found this and other studies. the effects of alcohol work in relation with other lifestyle factors, particularly smoking and particularly smoking and particularly diet. if you are drinking and smoking and you have a
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poor diet, those risk factors increase quite significantly. thank you very much. thanks for coming on the programme. thanks for coming on the programme. thank you all. we will bring you the latest news and sport at ten o'clock. also, our exclusive interview with the mum of a nine—year—old boy who last week took his own life because his mum said he was subject to homophobic bullying. before that, let's get the weather. here is carol. good morning. did you get wet this morning on the way to work? it wasn't raining by them but it was really warm. you were probably too early. that same you were probably too early. that sa m e syste m you were probably too early. that same system as come up from france and overnight in france it has produced more than 100,000 lightning strikes. that will clear away. for the rest of the week for most it will turn drier. clear skies by night. pretty cool. someone had a touch of frost. you can see our
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first weather front sinking south. here is the one i was talking to you about coming up from france. that is currently producing rain. it will continue to move away into the north sea. behind it, clearerskies. you can also see this line of cloud. that is the second weather from sinking south. it is weakening. this afternoon across scotland there would be a fair bit of sunshine. a peppering of showers in the north and west. tents up to 17 in glasgow. for northern ireland, you have got some sunshine. it is the same for northern england, wales and south—west england. here is the re m na nts of south—west england. here is the remnants of a weather front. a band of cloud with the odd spot of rain at times. that moves away as we go through the evening and overnight, leaving us with clear skies. shallow mist forming but nothing too dense.
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then you can see the temperatures in towns and cities. we could see temperatures dipped as low as five oi’ temperatures dipped as low as five or6 temperatures dipped as low as five or 6 degrees further south. in sheltered glens across the north—east of scotland damages could dip even lower. we could see some ground frost first thing. it also means we ground frost first thing. it also means we will have clear skies. as we means we will have clear skies. as we go through the next few days you can see how the temperature gradients change. the blue replaced by yellow. at times they will be rain. this is telling us that as we head into the weekend the temperature is on the rise. back to thursday, it is going to be a cold start with frost in the north. sunshine to start the day under clear skies. the cloud will build from the west. it will produce some showers. they will be hit and miss. most in the west. temperature range from 15 to 21. you can see what is waiting in the wings. this is a
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cluster of weather fronts coming our way. perhaps some uncertainty as to the exact timing and placement. this is what we think at the moment. they will introduce thicker cloud and some rain from the west, with cloud building ahead of them. temperatures 16 in the north, 20 in the south. hello, it's wednesday. i'm victoria derbyshire. in a searing and emotional interview we talk exclusively to the us mum of a nine—year—old boy who took his own life last week after she says he was bullied for being gay. mum leia rochelle pierce says she feels we have the first uk i want everyone to feel loved. my son said he wanted to make a change in this world and he wanted to show people love. he can't speak right now but i'm speaking words he spoke for everyone to hear.
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everyone needs to hear it because a gentle kind soul just left this world because of something so cruel. you can hear that full exclusive interview with leia rochelle pierce in a few minutes' time. do get in touch if you or someone in yourfamily has been bullied for being gay. the british children sent to australia for a better life 50 years ago. now they are suing the government over the abuse they suffered. home is a place where kids are nurtured and loved... and that never happened. this hour, we speak to another man forcibly removed from the uk with his brother in 1970. and a quarter of 14—year—old girls have self—harmed in the past year, according to a new report, prompting calls for the government to address what's being described as a "crisis in children's mental health". we'll be talking to a woman who self harmed as a teenager,
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as well as those helping to shape mental health policy. good morning. here'sjoanna in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the day's news. in herfirst british interview, the us mother of a nine—year—old boy who says her son took his own life after enduring homophobic bullying at school, has told this programme that she never wants any other child or parent to go through what her family is experiencing. jamel myles from colorado had told his mother that he was gay over the summer holidays and told her that he wanted to tell his classmates when he returned to school. but she says that he was bullied at his school in denver and that children there had told him to kill himself. and you can see victoria's interview with leia rochelle pierce on this programme in the next few minutes. there are calls for ministers to address what's being called a "crisis in children's mental health", after a study found that almost a quarter of girls aged 14 said they'd deliberately harmed themselves.
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the children's society says early support for vulnerable children and their families is vital, but councils don't have the funding. the department of health said it is investing an extra £300 million in mental health services in schools. a mother and daughter killed in a suspected double murder in solihull were on the phone to police as they were attacked, according to detectives. police are continuing to search for 21—year old janbaz tarin, after his former partner 22—year—old raneem 0udeh and her mother, 49—year—old khaola saleem, were fatally attacked in the early hours of bank holiday monday. an advert on facebook for an app that provides a natural alternative to contraception has been banned by the uk's advertising standards authority. claims that it was "highly accurate" and "provided a clinically tested alternative to other birth control methods" were found to be misleading. the swedish firm behind the natural cycles app says it respects the outcome of the investigation. jessica tye from the advertising standards authority explained how they looked into the advert. "highly accurate" is the really key
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claim that we focused on. they sent us evidence that related to many thousands of users of the app and that showed that there was a really big difference in how effective the app is whether you look at whether or not people followed the instructions perfectly or whether or not you look at how people actually used it in reality. actually, the evidence showed the vast majority of people were not using it perfectly. over 90% of cycles were not perfect use. theresa may will visit africa's biggest economy, nigeria, this morning on the second day of a trade mission to africa aimed at strengthening economic ties ahead of brexit. the prime minister announced £4 billion of extra british support for african economies during the first leg of her trip on tuesday. mrs may will also meet victims of modern slavery and unveil a series of measures to cut illegal migration into europe from west africa. the arteries of teenagers who drink and smoke show signs
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of hardening even by the age of 17, according to new research published in the european heartjournal. this can be an indicator that blood vessels are being damaged, increasing the likelihood of heart disease or stroke in later life, but the impact can be reversed if teenagers give up the habit. the estimated number of people killed by hurricane maria in puerto rico last september has risen to almost 3,000, according to local officials. the authorities have faced criticism for under—reporting the true death toll in the most powerful storm to hit the region in nearly 90 years. the revised number is almost 50 times higher than the previous official count of 64. british fishermen are asking for government protection after being attacked by their french counterparts off the coast of normandy. 35 french vessels gathered on monday night to stop british scallop dredgers, who they claim are "pillaging" the shellfish stocks. the local fisherman threw rocks and smoke bombs to deter the british boats, despite them being legally entitled to fish in the area.
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that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 10.30. if you get in touch, you are very welcome. use the hashtag victoria live. send us an e—mail and if you wa nt to ta ke live. send us an e—mail and if you want to take part in the programme, but in your phone number so we can call you back. there's text and whatsapp as well. this one says, "ivm whatsapp as well. this one says, "i'm a gay man and have a good network of friends and family. homophobia is a crime which can be visible, as in an assault on an lgbt person or it can be less obvious and more subtle but equally harmful. i have seen society and attitudes changed so much in the uk over my lifetime, yet life can still be very challenging for people who find themselves isolated and marginalised. speaking out is the first step. thank you for raising this issue today". more to come in a nixie minutes. time for the sport.
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—— in the next few minutes. good morning. johanna konta's poor run at grand slams has continued at the us open. she lost in the first round to the french sixth seed caroline garcia. the british number one reached last year's wimbledon semifinal but from a career high numberfour in the world, she is only just inside the top 50 which is why she got such a tough draw. she was beaten in straight sets. there are no british women left in the singles draw. temperatures of 38 degrees and 50% humidity saw five "heat—related retirements" in the men's draw. novak djokovic described the conditions as brutal. for the first time, an extreme heat policy is in place for the men, so the wimbledon champion took a mid—match ice bath during his four—set win over marton fuscovics. no, we were not both in one ice bath. i said that very clearly. there were two ice baths next to each other. 45 seconds or one minute and that is it, you get out. it's just to kind of shock your body in a way because
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it was so warm, it feels like everything is boiling in your body. after over 100 years of internatonal football and cup finals at hampden park in glasgow, the scottish football association board are meeting right to decide whether or not to move to the home of scottish rugby, murrayfield in edinburgh. here's bbc scotland's senior football reporter chris mclaughlin. well, the national stadium is owned by lower league side queens park. they rent it to the scottish fa. the lease is up in 2020. the scottish fa believe in its current form, it is not fit for purpose and they simply can't afford much—needed renovations. they have been looking at various options. one is to buy the stadium from queens park but they are looking for too much money, the sfa believe. the other option is to move to the home of scottish rugby, murrayfield. the scottish fa board had discussions yesterday. they spoke to both delegations.
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they will have more discussions at the national stadium today. a deal and a decision is expected, although don't be surprised if they release a statement later in the day saying they need more time to decide. it is a massive decision that has huge, huge repercussions for scottish football. in last night's league cup second round ties, west ham came from a goal down to beat ten—man afc wimbledon. the league 1 side took an early lead. joe pigott with the goal. wimbledon then had a man sent off but it was nearly an hour before west ham equalised through issa diop. the hammers going through 3—1. elsewhere, premier league huddersfield and cardiff both went out to championship sides. all the results on the bbc sport website. that's all the sport for now. i will be back with the headlines later. in herfirst british
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interview, and a very emotional one, the us mum of a nine—year—old boy who took his own life after she says he was bullied for being gay, makes a powerful appeal this morning not to treat gay children differently from any other child. leia rochelle pierce, from denver in colorado, found the lifeless body of her son last thursday, four days after he went back to school. she says he took his own life after he was subjected to homophobic bullying, adding that she blames herself for his death, for not realising he was in pain. in a moment, we'll talk about how well—equipped we are — families, schools, the media, society generally — for young people coming out. but first, here is leia rochelle pierce describing in searing terms the impact of the death of her nine—year—old. do you want to know what it's like to be dead while you're still alive? lose a child. it's painful. your heart breaks every second. you don't know what to do any more
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because the one that you're used to having around isn't around no more. life isn't fair any more. that's what it's like. how are you coping? i'm a mess. i'm a mess and if it wasn't for my daughters, i honestly don't know what i would do. tell us about your little boy. what was he like? he was magic. this little boy could walk into any room and make any person feels so loved and so special. he had this pizzazz about him. he wasjust magic. if you felt bad, he would do anything to take your pain away, just to make you happy. and is the toy that you're holding significant? oh, it's my son's bee. it's my son's bee.
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he cut off the ears so it would be different, like him. he cried for this toy. i didn't want to get it for him because i was, like, "i'm not spending $10 on a little beanie baby". but he looks at me with his beautiful brown eyes and he was, like, "please!" and i was, like, "fine". and he sleeps with it every night. he took showers with it. so i've got to make sure i keep it by me. when did he tell you that he wanted to come out at school? he didn't say he wanted to come out at school. he just said he was proud of who he was and he didn't mind telling people. i'm pretty sure he told someone who got that whole persona of, "oh, that's not ok", and decided to pick on him. i've sat here and seen kids pick on kids for less. so i'm pretty sure hejust told one person and itjust spread and it became a worse situation.
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and that happened, as far as you know, when he went back to school ten days ago? yeah. when he was coming home each night, did you pick up on anything? no. he would come home and give me a hug, tell me he loves me, steal my phone. he would take my laptop, go hide in his little fort that he made, and he would just play on his games. he was building a little game. after he was done, he would come in my room and lay with me and hog my tv. and yet four days after going back to school, you found his body. yes. it's unimaginable for most people watching you, having to go through that. i don't think it's fair to go through it.
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i don't want no one else to go through it. that image of seeing him like that is burned into the back of my brain and it hurts. i hadn't ever seen my baby like that. i don't want anyone else to see their baby like that. it's not right. i think it was your eldest daughter, your 14—year—old, who told you thatjamel was being bullied because of being gay. what was she able to tell you? my son came home and told her the kids at school were telling him to kill himself. he didn't come to me. it hurts because i would have understood and i would have defended him. but him and his older sister were, they were just so close. he would tell her everything. what have the school said to you? they actuallyjust called me today. they said they are going to work
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on suicide prevention. i told them, before we work on suicide prevention, we need to stop bullying because the bullying is what is leading to the suicide. so instead of skipping over the bullying and just going straight to the suicide, we need to start at the bullying and correct it. do you know if the school were aware that your little boy was being bullied for being gay? i know they were aware he was being bullied. i know they were very aware he was being bullied. who do you hold responsible for the loss of your son? i do. i feel responsible because as a mother, i should have felt his pain. i should have known he was hurt and i didn't. ifeel responsible because i didn't see the pain in my baby's eyes. but if he didn't say anything to you, how would you suspect that?
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because i'm his mamma and i should have just known. and i didn't. it's my fault i didn't know. what is your message to young, gay children, gay teenagers, who may be watching now? i would tell them they're beautiful and they're special and there's nothing different that... about them that should be pointed out and made them feel any type of way other than loved. we are all different and our differences are what makes us equal because it's the one thing we all have in common. we are supposed to embrace each other. regardless of if they are gay or not, they should all feel loved. they should all feel beautiful and they should all feel
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special, welcomed and warm. they should feel like wherever they go, people will treat them special and equal and no different than another. what would you say to parents who are watching you now? teach your kids love. teach them it's ok to have differences because we are all different. nobody‘s the same and if we were all the same, this world would be so boring. 0ur uniqueness is our differences and our differences are what make us equal. teach your kids more compassion. teach them more respect. teach them to be more accepting of each other. teach them it's ok, if you don't like something or someone it's ok to be quiet and just walk away and keep it to yourself. you don't always have to say mean things or rude things to people. it's ok to walk up to someone and just look at them and tell them, "you're special", or "you're beautiful", because
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everybody needs words of encouragement. it doesn't matter how you feel, if you're the bully or not. there is pain in everybody and until we correct the pain and the hurt that's in everyone and turn it into love, nothing will change. we have to change ourselves for our children. that is a very, very powerful message. i don't want no one else to feel this pain. tomorrow's the last day i get to see my son. and it's not fair and ifeel so bad for any other parent who has experienced this and i never, ever want anyone to experience this. i never want a child to feel alone. i never want a parent to feel broken. i want everyone to feel loved. my son said he wanted to make a change in this world. he wanted to show people love. he can't speak right now but i'm speaking words he spoke
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for everyone to hear. everyone needs to hear it because a gentle, kind soul just left this world because of something so cruel. i want my son to know that he made a change for the better because of his genuine person. leia, thank you very much for giving us your time today. we are really, really sorry for your loss. i'm sorry, too. this world does not get to see what a true, true treasure he is and what he could have been. he was greatness in the making. thank you, leia, and for telling us about jamel. thank you. a statement on behalf of the school said, "we are deeply committed
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to ensuring that all members of our school community are treated with dignity and respect, regardless of sexual orientation, gender identity or transgender status... our policies and practices reflect this commitment to ensuring that our lgbtq+ students can pursue their education with dignity and joy... we also know, however, that we as a society have a long way to go to ensure that no child ever is bullied or treated with disrespect because of their self—identification. all of us — parents, educators, and fellow students — need to lead the way in setting an example of love, respect and dignity for our lgbtq+ youth". let's talk now to 19—year—old ellen jones who came out when she was 14. lynn knapp is the headteacher of the windmill primary school in oxford, and reuben davidson is in brighton, from the charity
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allsorts which carries out projects to support lgbt young people in schools. welcome to all of you. how do you respond to what leia rochelle pierce said this morning? i think it's a tragedy, what has happened and i'm sorry for her loss and i don't think it is unique by any means. u nfortu nately, it is unique by any means. unfortunately, this kind of thing is happening much more commonly than you might expect and it is a tragedy. how do you respond? i agree entirely, no child should ever be feeling they are not accepted in school and their differences are something which makes them a target for bullying and it is something we have a long way to go to deal with but it is something we should be aiming at really strongly achieving. how do you respond to leia rochelle pierce and what happened to her little boy? it's absolutely devastating, it is a tragic situation. it's interesting that it has happened in the us, where
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actually a lot of very similar situations are recurring in the uk as well. this is something we need to look at inwards and look at ourselves in our own schools and not just say it happens elsewhere because it also happens in britain. are you saying that you know of individuals who have taken their own lives because they were subject to homophobic bullying? yes, many, many, and it's an absolute tragedy and something that over my years, both as a young person who's experienced homophobic bullying and asa campaigner experienced homophobic bullying and as a campaigner in this area, i have witnessed this happen so many times and the pain and suffering of so many young people who should never have been put in that position in the first place. the failure of those with the capacity to affect change and their failure to act being a largely contributing factor. and yourself? i'm very grateful that throughout my career so far, we haven't had any of our young people kill themselves but it is very
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common for us to do suicide intervention and in our front line team and in our work. stonewall have some really interesting, really poignant statistics that i think it is important to know. 45% of lgbt pupils are bullied for being lgbt. two in five trans—young people have attempted suicide and one in five lg bt young people attempted suicide and one in five lgbt young people have attempted suicide and that is significantly above the average amount of young people that are not lgbt which is i think between six and 8%. that is significantly different. as a primary school head teacher, how unusual is it for a child in primary school to know that they are gay?” think it's very unusual, actually. there are children we have had to start to question their sexuality, i think, and in the way they behave towards other children but we have never had a chart openly come out and say they think they are gay. what policies do you have in place
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to protect young children who might be questioning or, you know, as leia rochelle pierce told us, saying as jameldid, rochelle pierce told us, saying as jamel did, they are proud of who they are? i think it is a school culture, notjust they are? i think it is a school culture, not just about they are? i think it is a school culture, notjust about policy, you can have all the policies in the world and the equality act is there to support all of children in school but it is about creating a culture in school where it is ok for every child to be different, whether it is sexuality, race, it doesn't matter, it is about being proud of who you are. ithink it is about being proud of who you are. i think as educators, we have a responsibility to put in place, we have a value sculpture, where an a cce pta nce have a value sculpture, where an acceptance is the heart of what we do and bullying is totally u na cce pta ble do and bullying is totally unacceptable and should never be tolerated and accepted and where children can speak at and be who they want to be without fear of being castigated by their peer group and if they are, it is about leaders in the school, doing something about that, saying it is totally unacceptable. lm, you came out five yea rs unacceptable. lm, you came out five years ago aged 14. yes. the first
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girl in youryearto years ago aged 14. yes. the first girl in your year to do so. what was the experience like? it was a very mixed experience in some ways. i had some very supportive friends and people who stood by me and were com pletely people who stood by me and were completely supportive and really helped me, particularly because i came out to my year group before i came out to my year group before i came out to my year group before i came out to my parents. there were also negative things that happened. i was severely cyber bullied by people who were clearly from my school but were using anonymous identities online and telling me to kill myself and harm myself in various ways. it was a really distressing time for me. again, it's not a unique experience, as i have learned, after working with them, but at the time i felt isolated and alone and there was not much support in place. you say you came out to your year group before your parents. what was the process?” your year group before your parents. what was the process? i say that as though i came out formally to eve ryo ne though i came out formally to everyone but it was to a couple of people and i was very nervous about doing it and then it kind of spread in the way that things do. more and
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more people knew and it got to a situation where somehow my entire year group new and it became the gossip of the week and my entire year group knew before my parents did, not that i was scared of my pa rents‘ did, not that i was scared of my parents‘ reaction but it is always ha rd to have parents‘ reaction but it is always hard to have those conversations. parents‘ reaction but it is always hard to have those conversationsm terms of what you do in secondary schools, what can you help leadership teams in schools put into place in order to support young people who might want to come out? we believe in a two pronged approach to supporting lgbt young people and one of the prongs is lgbt specific services like the service we provide and then also education, so that is to all professionals that work with young people and then also to young people themselves. we visit primary and secondary schools and colleges and secondary schools and colleges and other youth settings where we train the staff in those places to be able to address themselves the bullying and sort of negative use of
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the term gay, so, saying, "that's so 95v", the term gay, so, saying, "that's so gay", about it raining or something, that has such an impact on young people's experience of school and if they feel safe to come out or not. and also to other young people, to say it's ok to explore your sexual orientation or gender identity. some people are gay, some people are bisexual, trans—am or not. actually, everybody should feel safe in their community and really empower them to build a community, a school community they want to attend because they have to spend five hours a day, five days a week there, however many weeks of the year and it's really important that all young people feel safe. charlie near miele says, "i spit homophobic bullying at secondary school, i was outed at school when i was 12 and subsequently fed regular harassment from others in my ear. 0ften subsequently fed regular harassment from others in my ear. often they would shout slurs as i walked down the corridor or say i was filthy for having an interest in the same sex. the bullying got so bad i began to
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skip school and only stopped when a friend became concerned on the effect it was having on my mental health and forced the teachers to step in when they had previously turned a blind eye. " step in when they had previously turned a blind eye. this answers, "i was bullied when i was 15 for coming out as lesbian by my whole year group coming out as lesbian by my whole yeargroup and coming out as lesbian by my whole year group and other years in my school. people would laugh at me, spread rumours, not sit by me in a canteen and called me horrible names. when i told the teachers, all they told me was that it would get better but they never actually did anything to stop the bullying. when icame anything to stop the bullying. when i came out to my parents for support, that also turned bad due to the shock were feeling and it then made me start to feel suicidal. luckily for me, i had the best friends and two years later, i am accepted friends and two years later, i am a cce pted by friends and two years later, i am accepted by more people but i think schools need to be taught more about the lgbt community all over the world to make the world a safer place". b says, "just heard your interview with the mother of the nine—year—old boy who killed himself in the states after being bullied. that was the most powerful speech
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i've ever heard. i have got tears rolling down my cheeks". b says, "what a sad story, i'm sitting here crying about the woman and the loss of her little boy. no matter what, we are of her little boy. no matter what, we are all humans". i've interviewed many young people about coming out and about being bullied at school because being gay. 0n and about being bullied at school because being gay. on most occasions, they say the school were pretty useless. i've also interviewed many teachers and head teachers who tell me they have policies in place and a culture in place to make sure it doesn't happen. but it does happen. place to make sure it doesn't happen. but it does happenm place to make sure it doesn't happen. but it does happen. it does. where is the failing?” happen. but it does happen. it does. where is the failing? i think in society generally, there's a issue about difference. people like to conform and people like people to be normal, if you like. i think we have to break that down and that is where primary schools have a big responsibility because we are literally shaping how children see themselves and the society they live in and unless we take active lead in doing that, we are just sustaining everything that is happening at the moment that is wrong. when you were
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cyber bullied, did you talk to the school about it? i was encouraged to go to the school by some of my closest friends and the teacher that i raised it with at the time effectively kind of said, "you're 93v, effectively kind of said, "you're 93)’, get effectively kind of said, "you're gay, get used to it", which was horrendous. surely not using those words? as good as, effectively, it was very close to that. later, i did not tell my parents about anything that was going on but they found out through a friend eventually who was really angry about it, quite rightly. then my parents went back to the school and try to deal with it but again, they were in a situation where partially because it was happening online and schools don't have a lot of control in that domain and partially because it was a very domain and partially because it was a very new area for domain and partially because it was a very new area for them, they struggle to do anything. i think what would have helped was no one put in any interventions to ensure my well—being was being looked after, there was lots of focus on stopping the bullying that was happening but very little in terms of making sure that... there was an assumption that because i had, and
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was talking about these things quite openly that i was doing 0k and that was not necessarily the case. 0k. thank you forjoining us. thank you lynn and rubin. your experiences welcome, by the way. i've got quite a few that i read in the rest of the programme. still to come — does the uk have a children's mental health crisis? there are calls for government action after a new report says a quarter of 14—year—old girls have self—harmed in the past year. and a fishing fracas — the fallout from the so—called scallop war, after british fishermen were attacked by their french rivals off the coast of normandy. time for the latest news — here's joanna gosling. in herfirst british interview, the us mother of a nine—year—old boy, who says her son took his own life after enduring homophobic bullying at school, has told this programme
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that she never wants any other child or parent to go through what her family is experiencing. jamel myles from colorado had told his mother that he was gay over the summer holidays, and told her that he wanted to tell his classmates when he returned to school. but she says that he was bullied at his school in denver, and that children there had told him to kill himself. there are calls for ministers to address what's being called a "crisis in children's mental health", after a study found that almost a quarter of girls aged 14 said they'd deliberately harmed themselves. the children's society says early support for vulnerable children and their families is vital, but councils don't have the funding. the department of health said it is investing an extra £300 million in mental health services in schools. a mother and daughter killed in a suspected double murder in solihull were on the phone to police as they were attacked, according to detectives. police are continuing to search for 21—year—old janbaz tarin, after his former partner, 22—year—old
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raneem 0udeh, and her mother, 49—year—old khoula saleem, were fatally attacked in the early hours of bank holiday monday. an advert on facebook for an app that provides a natural alternative to contraception, has been banned by the uk's advertising standards authority. claims that it was "highly accurate" and "provided a clinically tested alternative to other birth control methods", were found to be misleading. the swedish firm behind the natural cycles app says it respects the outcome of the investigation. the arteries of teenagers who drink and smoke show signs of hardening even by the age of 17, according to new research published in the european heartjournal. this can be an indicator that blood vessels are being damaged, increasing the likelihood of heart disease or stroke in later life, but the impact can be reversed if teenagers give up the habit. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. here's some sport now with 0lly. british number one johanna konta is out of the us open,
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beaten in the first round by the sixth seed caroline garcia. there are no british women left in the singles draw. andy murray and cameron norrie play later today. the high temperatures in new york have seen the men allowed a 10—minute break for the first time. novak djokovic took a mid—match ice bath in hsi first round victory, but five men retired because of heat related issues. the scottish fa will decide today whether or not to stay at their spiritual home, hampden park in glasgow, or move internationals and cup finals to rugby's home, murrayfield in edinburgh. and mark cavendish is to take an "indefinite" rest from cycling because of illness. tests have shown he's been training with the epstein—barr virus. it can cause extreme fatigue. that's all the sport for now. earlier we brought you the story ofjohn glynn.
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he's one of more than a 100 people suing the british government after they were forcibly sent abroad as children, between the 19505 and 19705. we'll talk more about this in a moment but first, here's an extract from john's story. the only photo i've got of myself and... john was just eight years old when he arrived in australia, sent from the children's home where his mother had left him. i remember i was carrying a photo of my mother and one of the christian brothers just took that from me and just said you wouldn't need that any more, and threw it across the floor. although john's mother, three brothers and grandparents were back in britain, he was told no one wanted him. he still remembers a speech given to the boys by a senior christian brother. he said some things like the reason you have come out here is because nobody wants you, you are the dregs of the community, you are dragging everybody down, you were... just nobody wanted you. john was sexually assaulted by another christian brother, a man later charged with child sex offences. when he talks about
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it he breaks down. they took my childhood from me, they took my country from me, my heritage. john is one of a hundred people supporting a suit against the uk government, seeking compensation. nearly six months ago the international enquiry into child sexual abuse recommended a financial redress scheme but nothing has been done. this claim just filed in the high court has two claimants representative of the whole group. both are anonymous. in 1956 a very senior home office civil servant reported to the uk government that the policy of sending uk children to australia was a misguided one and a harmful one. as a result of that we are seeing that the uk government has a legal responsibility for the harm suffered by those children. but many of the migrants feel time is running out. most are elderly, some frail, in the six months since icsa made its recommendation,
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14 of them have died. the british government don't seem interested at the moment, to me theyjust want to let it go. i think they want it all swept under the carpet. everybody, hopefully everyone of us will die in the meantime, probably, you know. we can speak now to rex wade who along with his brother, was the last child to be sent from britain on one of these schemes in1970. alan collins, a solicitor who represents some of the claimants in this case, and labour mp for wigan lisa nandy who 5 been campaigning in parliament for the government to pay compensation to people likejohn. rex, how old were you when you are sent to australia and what happened when you got there?” sent to australia and what happened when you got there? i was ten when i
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was sent. when i got there it was basically a regime of work, school, work, bed, and that was a constant. how were you treated? cruelly. for any misdemeanour. both the people who ran the home, they would hit you. if they didn't hit you, the dog would attack you. we had a three—way action each time. it was physical, verbal and mental abuse. there was no sexual abuse. what impact has that had on your life?” no sexual abuse. what impact has that had on your life? i have to speakfor that had on your life? i have to speak for everybody here. basically, it's a loss to everything i ever had. your relationships and family.
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my had. your relationships and family. my immediate family. my extended families. it is a long, hard road. you just don't get over it. terrible. i'm going to bring in mallek collins, rex. allan collins, why is the government responsible for the kind of things rex hasjust described? successive governments had a policy of sending children out to the commonwealth countries, in particular australia, but other countries as well such as rhodesia. the idea was to build up the british population in those countries. it was government policy. in 1955, the uk government was warned that there we i’e uk government was warned that there were problems with the policy. that of children being sent out were not being simulated —— assimilated and we i’e being simulated —— assimilated and were leading isolated lives, and problems were being identified. yet
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successive problems were being identified. yet successive governments problems were being identified. yet successive governments continued to send these children out until 1970. do you have evidence that the british government knew children like rats were being mistreated? the government commissioned a report, the ross report. that reported in 1955 there were problems. that children were at risk. the england —— the independent enquiry into child sexual abuse recently reported on the migration programme. that has reconfirmed the problems. it demonstrated that the government continued to send children out on to these problems. lisa nandy, the enquiry said the british gutmann should pay compensation. why do you think they haven't so far? this enquiry was set up by theresa may after the enquiry was set up by theresa may afterthejimmy enquiry was set up by theresa may after the jimmy savile scandal when she promised to leave no stone unturned in the pursuit ofjustice and truth. the comment was initially
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very keen on doing this. over these six months we have had absolutely nothing. it took six weeks to get the gunmen to confirm which department was even responsible. when i challenged the minister on this in parliament before the summer recess, she said was the soap opera thatis recess, she said was the soap opera that is brexit, and i quote directly from her words, that had prevented the government from taking any action. you have heard the stories from survivors today. you have heard from survivors today. you have heard from the child migrants trust that 14 people have died since its report was commissioned. but you haven't heard yet but should know is that in australia, the receiving country, a commission was established to look into this horrendous episode in history that made over 400 recommendations and the government was able to respond within weeks. it established a compensation scheme which is now up and running. 0ur government has taken six months to respond to three recommendations and still has not done so. that is why
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we still has not done so. that is why we say enough is enough. what would compensation look like in terms of sums of money for somebody like rex we sums of money for somebody like rex we have heard described his experiences as a child when he was sent out there? what would be an appropriate song? the australian scheme is around £40,000, that is what i anticipate for an average pay—out. but actually, a report in the uk recommended that all child migrants sent out were actually compensated equally because they we i’e compensated equally because they were exposed to equal risk, which seems to me a fairly sensible way to proceed, given that the alternative is to ask people like rex to relive horrendous experiences, the worst of their lives, over and over horrendous experiences, the worst of their lives, overand overagain horrendous experiences, the worst of their lives, over and over again to prove that they suffered harm. but actually, there is another issue. the former prime minister, gordon brown, has been campaigning for this as well. there is an apology owed to these former child migrants and their families. when the prime
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minister in 2009 apologised for what had happened, the full extent of the abuse quite simply wasn't known. there is an apology owed by the government as well. the minister was sympathetic to that which he was challenged in parliament. she promised there would be a response before the summer recess. that has not been forthcoming. this has been urgent. thank you for coming on the programme. thank you for your time. we will see what happens and continues —— continue to report on this. a scallop war has broken out in the channel, with british fishing boats reportedly damaged by french fishermen because of an argument overfishing rights. have a look at this. now british fishermen are demanding government protection, whilst their french rivals accuse them of shamelessly depleting stocks. let's disucss this with mike park, chief executive at the scottish
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white fish producers association. he represents fishermen, one of whom was involved in yesterday's fracas. and joining me on webcam is marc dela haye. he is the director of the normandy regional committee of maritime fishermen — and represents french fishermen. mike park, what is the problem? mike park, what is the problem7m recent yea rs mike park, what is the problem7m recent years we have arranged a deal with the french industry which has been ratified by government, which has allocated uk fishermen more effort to fish elsewhere because we don't have enough days at sea. we agreed to stay out of the area for three months. this year the french refused to strike an agreement, which means there is no restriction. we can go into that area. we don't encroach on the 12 mile limit. we do fish first gallops at this time of the year which are in default and expensive. we are doing nothing wrong. mark, the british fishermen
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are doing nothing wrong. why are the french fishermen bashing them with their boats? well, sorry for my poor english. i will try to answer you. french fishermen are not happy with the arrival of great dredgers. we are trying to manage scallops in a sustainable way. we don't want to fish in the summer because in the summer scallops are of less quality. are you saying that british fishermen are looking first gallops when they shouldn't be because it won't help preserve scallops? yes. we have succeeded in france in
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having more and more scallops for around ten years. let me put that to mike park. the accusation is that your members are overfishing? it's interesting what my french colleague says. the uk fleet removes about 6% of catches from that area. the french remove 94%. if there is any accusation of overfishing, it is not down to the uk. it is your members' fault? yes, that's what lots of french... we have created a sustainable fishery not far from our coast. 0k historically british boats exist in the area. but what we want is having sustained the kind of
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management of scallops. we have made a deal. mike park, how is this resolves? how do we make sure that french and british boats aren't bashing each other again? we can't have a continuation of what happened yesterday. fishing is dangerous by a significant factor and we don't need these sort of classes. yesterday we send the french industry and e—mail pleading with them to sit down and talk so this doesn't happen again. they have accepted that. we're trying to arrange a meeting with french colleagues in the hope we can get back to some kind of normality. do boats back off? we are doing nothing wrong. just because somebody
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doesn't like the fact we're doing something, doesn't mean that we shouldn't do it if you are abiding by the law. that is the clear fact. let's sit down with the french and see what we can agree. the ball is in their park. it is up to them whether they want to agree or not. but we are doing nothing wrong. thank you both. during this was excellent. thank you. some breaking news. holly willoughby is going to co—host a celebrity at the end of the year with declan donnelly. —— i'm a celebrity. ant mcpartlin is not doing it. he is in rehab. holly willoughby will co—host with declan donnelly. new research suggests that one in four 14—year—old girls have self harmed in the last year. that is an extra ordinary statistic.
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the children's society report looks at the reasons behind children self—harming, saying they include school pressures and concerns about appearance. one of the reasons given by one girl who took part in the survey was "feeling not pretty enough". it also says that 46% of 14—year—olds who have been attracted to people of the same gender say they have self—harmed. katie houghton, who self—harmed as a teenager. she is with us. and naomi salisbury, director of self—harm support. richard crellin, policy manager at the children's society. thank you for talking to us. you have carried out this report, richard. how do you react to these figures, that's 25% of 14—year—olds have self harmed? the figures are really shocking. we expected them to
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be high but not that high. it is pretty sobering to see these findings. we know that self—harm is really closely linked to low well—being. 0ne really closely linked to low well—being. one of the problems we are seeing is that since 2009, children in the uk are becoming more unhappy with their lives. it is time for us to have a rethink as to how we respond to these issues, to stop self—harm from happening. katie, thank you for talking to us. you began self—harming at 14. can you talk to our audience about what was going through your head? firmly, at that time it wasn't one specific event that started it all. —— firmly. it was an accumulation of a longer period of what would have been the person at the time that i obviously did not know at that point being so young. just an accumulation rally of overwhelming emotions. i was frustrated, i was angry. i was
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generally confused. i was extremely low. it all came together into this moment that i remember very clearly. i hadn't seen it anywhere in the media at that point. it wasn't spoken about at all because it was not something i had seen or heard about. it was just not something i had seen or heard about. it wasjust my not something i had seen or heard about. it was just my way of attempting, i suppose, to calm time from all of these emotions and things that were going on, to try to ta ke things that were going on, to try to take control. i was feeling very out—of—control emotionally. take control. i was feeling very out-of-control emotionally. at the point of harming yourself, what were you feeling? immense frustration because it was like a collision of some of the different emotions at that time that had been going on for quite a long period, that i didn't know what to do with. i haven't spoken to anybody. i was feeling like i was going a little bit mad
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andl like i was going a little bit mad and i didn't really know what to do with myself. i believe it was an attempt to take control of howl felt, really, on my own, which is what i felt at that time. naomi, what i felt at that time. naomi, what is your advice to anybody watching who can relate to what katie has told us, or repent of somebody who has a child who has harmed themselves? we speak to a lot of young people who are using self injury and haven't talked to anybody about it before. it is a difficult situation to be on either side of. it isa situation to be on either side of. it is a really brave thing to bring that forward. we would suggest that people think about, who do you feel most comfortable talking to? who hasn'tjudged you in the past? that maybe a friend, a teacher, a parent. try to talk about your feelings and what you would like to happen. if you are the parent, if your child
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comes to you, understandably your gut reaction is going to be, i want to fix this, what's to stop it, but as has been well outlined it is often in response to difficult emotions and experiences and trying to get somebody to stop quite often pushes them away and alienates them from seeking more help. the biggest things you can offer are your support and kindness, thinking about where you can get support as a parent. is there somebody else you can talk to? do you need outside support? it may be from a gp. it may bea support? it may be from a gp. it may be a youth counselling service. they may not be an underlying mental health issue but there is a judgment of distress and that needs to be recognised and validated. richard, why do you think the statistics are so shockingly high? what is going on with teenagers right now in britain? it is really difficult to explain why so many teenagers are unhappy. there are factors we can point to. we know that girls particularly are
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more unhappy with their appearance and that can be a driving factor. and also that children are still unhappy with school. a lot of people say it is to do with school and exam pressure. it could also be about the atmosphere at school, the competitiveness, the toxic environment around your appearance and how you behave and how you act. there are a lot of things for us to address. there really is, katie, when richard describes it in those terms... what would your own contribution be to how we bring these figures down? what do you suggest? for me, at the time i started it was more to do with the underlying mental health issues. i think there is so much pressure on children these days. i get really scared for my daughter. she is only five. social media, but where it is now. when i was younger, you when
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tom and shut the door and that was it. these days kids don't have that. they don't switch off. there was more pressure on how people look and things like that. —— there is more pressure. mental— health needs things like that. —— there is more pressure. mental—health needs to be spoken about more in schools. i think if at that point of my life i have been more knowledgeable about it, because i had no knowledge whatsoever, i didn't know what was going on, and felt there was maybe a teacher! going on, and felt there was maybe a teacher i could have spoken to, that maybe, just maybe that wouldn't have them lead on to what was a very prolonged period of suffering really because it wasn't spoken about. i think if it was spoken about at that point in schools as part of a curriculum, because it is so big these days, something that that could really help. i think it is really important. thank you all. we appreciate it. thank you for your messages. if you want organisations
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which can offer advice or support, go online to the bbc website. i wa nted go online to the bbc website. i wanted to read some more of your m essa g es to wanted to read some more of your messages to do with homophobic bullying as a result of our interview with the mother of a nine—year—old who took his own life last week because he was subject to homophobic bullying when he went back to school after the summer holidays. 0ne says, in a religious studies lesson someone said gay people should be shot back. the teacher did nothing. girls move away from me in the changing room when i am minding my own business. 0ne from me in the changing room when i am minding my own business. one of my closest friends told me we couldn't be friends any more because of my sexuality. paula says, when my son was nine he wanted to kill himself. i urgently spoke to a gp who took it seriously. he faxed an urgent referral to a child's service. two weeks later i haven't heard anything. i found the service. they had not taken the referral
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seriously. they believed that because it was only nine he did not understand how final death was and did not want to see him. i gave them more information and they agreed to see them. he had the standard six—week counselling but it wasn't very helpful because they didn't really know how to cancel a young child. a few years later and he has now improved thanks to my hard work rather than anything offered to him. young people are failed by the mental health service unless they have physical symptoms such as an eating disorder and, to a certain extent, they self—harm. thank you for sharing your storage will stop —— experiences. back tomorrow at nine. have a good day. bbc newsroom life next. —— bbc newsroom life is good morning. it has been a rather wet start to the day in the south east. heavy rain through the
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morning. some patchy rain further north and west across northern england and wales. it is the rain in the south—east giving us large puddles. it will move east. things should improve across the south—east. northern and western areas will lose the cloud. it is dry and pretty sunny for most. temperatures getting up to 17 to 21 degrees. through this evening and tonight, lengthy clear spells. degrees. through this evening and tonight, lengthy clearspells. some mist and shallow fog patches forming. it will turn quite chilly. temperatures in towns and cities getting into single figures. 45 degrees in the countryside. as we going to thursday, for most it is a dry day with sunny spells. temperatures similar to today. this is bbc news.
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these are the top stories developing at 11: ministers are urged to address a "crisis in children's mental health", after a study suggests one fifth of girls aged 14 had self harmed in the last year. with the young people we work with across the country, there is still a lot of stigma about these kinds of mental health issues. it's still really hard to ask for help. something like self harm, which can be quite private, is one way of dealing with those feelings, but not necessarily a good way. british boats demand government protection after clashes with french vessels over scallop fishing rights. a manhunt continues for 21—year—old janbaz tarin, as it emerges that one of the two women who were stabbed
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to death in solihull was on the phone to police as she was attacked. theresa may visits nigeria on the second day of a trade mission

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