with me are: the columnist for the independent yasmin alibhai—brown. long—time correspondent for the new york times john fisher burns, from france's le point, marc roche, who also spent many years at le monde and the guardian columnist nisreen malik. is there a glimmer of a brexit deal on the horizon? the eu's chief negotiator michel barnier suggested this week he was prepared to offer britain a partnership such as there had never been with any third country. the markets got very excited at the prospect. then britain s newish secretary of state for exiting the eu, dominic raab, after talks with m. barnier, said he s stubbornly optimistic that a deal is within reach. marc, your reading of the summer s brexit—related activity... that there will be in agreement and that britain will become a fairly big dangerfor the

that britain will become a fairly big danger for the eu. that britain will become a fairly big dangerfor the eu. the new britain coming out of brexit will be. on michel barnier, rejoice. michelle barney is under pressure from —— michel barnier under pressure from all the governments in the year that are pro—eu. the ports in holland and belgium and france are lobbying to have the deal because they do not want chaos. there are the exporters like the german manufacturers who are very interested in the uk murky to keep it. michel barnier himself hopes to replace presidentjuncker because

macron once the danish commissioner. he wants to come out of history as the man who sold brexit. so rejoice, rejoice rejoice. i don't think so. i do not work for the independent. i work for the i newspaper. i have been reading some of the commentaries since all of this jar in the markets and there are quite a lot of serious voices saying he did not mean in the sense that it was taken that it will all be exactly what we want. the irish question remains very strong. i think one of the french ministers said britain is not going to be able to be able to

pick the best choice bets and no immigration but yes to free trade. it is not what was made out. you saw the cold water coming down very quickly. you are all doom and gloom, let's be optimistic. the agreement is in the interests of both parties to reach it. there will be people tweeting this programme already saying we have been saying that for more than a year while you sit to discuss it. john, your take on it.|j think the most significant thing around this table is that marc has changed his position and is now accommodating of our brexit deal. it is welcome and i think there will be a deal and is welcome and i think there will be a dealandl is welcome and i think there will be a deal and i felt for very long time will be a deal because has to be be deal. the costs of failure on both sides, as much on the side of the european union is on the side of the uk are too high to contemplate. i

think events across europe such as the rise of the rights and issues of immigration have changed the landscape in which merkel and macron our dealing and they are not going to lead the irish border which all involves ten or 12 million of the 500 million people in the european union. they will come up with some sort of fudge which may be amended in time. we have ten weeks to go. who was it who said nothing concentrates the mind isa said nothing concentrates the mind is a much of the prospect of being hanged in the morning? terrible, we agreed for the first time. what is going to happen potentially is that ido going to happen potentially is that i do not think there will be this amazing deal ever was very happy

with zero of other b1 deal which the british or the eu will be unhappy with. i think what is likely is that particularly on the irish border because it will be too awkward if not resolved in time there will be a phage because that is this period after brexit, and auditorium where things can be retroactively edgier do they do not work. even although there is this very hard deadline of about november on things like the irish border because that is for a five months before the deadline of march 2019 they can come up with the transitionalfudge march 2019 they can come up with the transitional fudge and what appeared to be unworkable solutions. i do not think they are eminently solvable. there are a lot of practical problems around. statements were

made around the good friday agreement before do was signed in saying it was too difficult. it included a lot of fudge which is mostly bought for 20 years swiping to do the solvable problem. you're not talking about the extremists within the tory party. there is an extremist wing in the tory party and we know are. they do not want to deal. they want an ordeal exit. —— i'io deal. they want an ordeal exit. —— no deal. we were referencing michelle barney. —— michel barnier. what about the argument that the eu does not want to encourage other countries to leave? that is still a psychological problem. you do not wa nt to psychological problem. you do not want to make it too easy. that has been the argument. even the

italians, the fascist italy no relu cta nce italians, the fascist italy no reluctance to even mention quitting the eu. i think the message is to have a deal. we can't have in britain a second referendum. i am becoming british. we can't have a second referendum because no parties left or right wanted and the public does not want it. the latest polls show that the public wants it. let's not go down that route. it is three hours of a separate programme. the argument that the eu prisma countries don't want to encourage further separations could be turned oi'i further separations could be turned on its head and said that they want to avoid that in the face of the rise of the right across europe, especially on the issue of immigration, they're going to have to make this less of a straitjacket and make concessions that will encourage people to stay as well as

to punish them for leaving. one very quick point. there is this topic of the eu wanting to punish button so it is harder for other european countries. the risks of brexit the risk of leaving the eu are very clear within the eternal divisions in the uk. the eu does need to do very little to show it is a bad idea. j has been divisive and racially hurt has been divisive and economically it has been really damaging so the way it is played out organically within the uk over the past couple of years practically shows it is valid. when is the evidence for that? the figures i see do not support that. there was an investment report 48 hours ago that showed that the uk continues even these uncertain times to attract far

more foreign direct investment than the rest of the world. we are seven weeks away from the eu summit in october which is when both sides have said they want agreement. we will return to this in subsequent problems. we will be watching. to no avail. in britain, what is happening inside her majesty s opposition? the row about anti—semitism inside her majesty s opposition? this week frank field — who s been a labour mp since 1979 and a party memberfor 60 years — resigned from it, citing anti—semitism and a culture of bullying. the deputy leader warned the resignation was a sign of the party s drift, and reflected its deep divisions. yasmin, his resignation is about more than just anti—semitism, but is tom watson right that this is a wake up call?

i don't think frank field is a wake—up call. his presence has been problematic. i do think the labour party is mishandled the situation. it has let it drift politically for so it has let it drift politically for so long. it has become noxious with the result was no way out of it. i do not know who is advising jeremy corbyn. he is not an anti—semite. the noxious fumes are engulfing the party and in that sense, watson was right. going back to frank field, to see him supposedly mattering himself oi'i see him supposedly mattering himself on this, ——martyring. he has been good on some aspects of business etc but he has been vehemently anti—immigration. in 2008 a bishop

in england said he was an enoch powell of our times. he in england said he was an enoch powell of ourtimes. he is in england said he was an enoch powell of our times. he is a database. he is was been a database. —— nativist. because of the way it has been mishandled the situation will create further flames. do people around the table echo the point that the labour party has allowed the row about anti—semitism to carry on for too long? we have all been talking about this for a good few months now. it is a distraction, isn't it? the frank field of who you speak is not the frank field line although i do not know him personally. it is not the frank field deeply respected by the many people who are them in parliament. for eight years he sent

e—mails.... he is against immigrants. a broader point about the state of the party. someone who came to his understanding about what underlies the founding of the state of israel in the television series which is about 14 or 15 hours and akin toa which is about 14 or 15 hours and akin to a deep understanding. and the poor understanding. i understand there is such sensitivity. they need to make sure they are not closing off debate including debate that does include the right of israel. it isa does include the right of israel. it is a strong state and it can defend itself so i think that will have to bea itself so i think that will have to be a compromise. we would like to see the labour party being in opposition and have an economic policy. . iwould like

opposition and have an economic policy. . i would like them to develop that. what is a position of the labour party and brexit? i think as sooi'i the labour party and brexit? i think as 50011 as the labour party and brexit? i think as soon as this issue is solved and labour becoming the opposition to a week and divisive government. ido i do not think we should fixate on frank field '5 personal history on race or nativism or immigration. there is a serious bullying issue with the labour party. i have got the brunt of it completely randomly. there is a sense that things are out

of control. there is an atmosphere of control. there is an atmosphere of witchhunts and people are looking for traitors and saboteurs. at the moment if you talk to a certain type of labour activist about anti—semitism of the taller bullying the first responses do you not care about beating the tory party? the point is we should be about being against tory party and stick together and anybody who descends from that line is our traitor and instrumental icing bullying which leads us back to the same position again which is no one taking it seriously enough because they see it all as a way to undermine left and to undermine carbon and to strengthen the tory government and we're frank field is important, is that he is seen as a traitor because he propped up the conservative party oi'i he propped up the conservative party ona he propped up the conservative party on a boat where he was one of three

—— vote on a boat where he was one of three — — vote where on a boat where he was one of three —— vote where he was one of three labour rebels. i think it's wrong to see that these criticisms are personal. i think it's wrong to see that these criticisms are personallj i think it's wrong to see that these criticisms are personal. i think he isa criticisms are personal. i think he is a native rest. his politics are native. any function and healthy democracy needs a strong opposition, irrespective of political colour, that's the point, isn't it? with the exception of scotland, there are basically two parties dominating the political landscape. they got 83% of the vote and we need opposition. at the vote and we need opposition. at the moment the government is getting away with murder. we will leave that for now. it ties in with brexit. therefore it will rear its head again. let's turn to the united

states, and opinion poll suggests half of americans believe donald trump should be impeached. the poll was carried out in the week went to former staffers would be facing prison sentences for financial crimes. michael:, the former lawyer implicated the president in election campaign fraud. as we enter september, that means the midterms arejust september, that means the midterms are just two months away, they will determine whether the democrats reta ke determine whether the democrats retake control of congress. john, the opinion poll, the washington post and abc, we don't want to get bogged down, but it's striking because of the period when it was conducted. what is your reading of the mood? obviously, this is bad news for donald trump and his supporters, especially with the mid—term elections imminent. but i am old enough to remember the closest thing we have for a template

in this, the last two years of richard nixon's presidency, when he was re—elected by a landslide and was re—elected by a landslide and was done within 18 months, as was re—elected by a landslide and was done within18 months, as i recall. as the prosecutorial and judicial processes moved against him and he decided to fly to san cle m e nte and he decided to fly to san clemente rather than face a trial in the senate. i can see how the business of cohen, the obstruction of justice case business of cohen, the obstruction ofjustice case that appears to be building, this could put intolerable pressure on trump. i wouldn't be surprised if he climbed on a helicopter. you think he could... one thing you can't doubt is that he has a pretty large ego. he won't admit criticism, this would be the most serious criticism he would face. wouldn't that make him a martyr? it right if he was uncertain of surviving an impeachment process in the senate that he would be better to leave and build a martyr‘s legend. it reminds me of a quote

around the time when margaret thatcher was being challenged before she was deposed, the quote from one of her party members who said you can't hand margaret thatcher a gun, she will shoot you with it. she was supposed to go away quietly, and all she did was turn against her own, and donald trump will do that. if you hand him a gun, he will shoot his own people. if he sees the potential for impeachment, there's i'io potential for impeachment, there's no way he won't run straight into it and turn it into a divisive process. he would use the american people to say, look, we came here, you voted for me, and the deep state, the american institutions that are against the common man are working against the common man are working against you. i think that is one of the reasons why the party are so low is to discuss impeachment. they are being very cowardly on trump. they know that if donald trump transmits

its signal to its base, the apparatus of this machine that you voted against, that is no good for anyone. more than 63 million americans who voted for him, are they deserting him? evidently not. those polls have stayed steady. the people who voted for him for the breast but said they would do so again. yes, can he do what he promised in the election? there is another argument, that the economy is doing well. that is either mostly in harrington is from obama, —— inheritance from obama. and the danger is that the democrats, not having a lead coming out of the woods at the moment, that we might be stuck at the end of the mandate

with an economy doing well and a president, although contested, with a good economy, could be re—elected. that is why the democrats, i think, don't want the impeachment. so many of his supporters have guns. he has already started muttering that they will be a civil war. he has already said it. what we've read in the last week about john mccain, said it. what we've read in the last week aboutjohn mccain, and his passing, and the enormous outpouring across republican and democratic parties across america, it struck me that it was very much, although john mccain was a great man, in my view, as american politicians i came to know at all well, he would be high oi'i know at all well, he would be high on the list of people i admire. it seems to me that behind that outpouring of affection, and admiration, lay a yearning to get back to a government that observes basic moral standards of the

republic. i'm not sure i agree. i think there are two americas. there is the misty eyed america, the new york times columnists who think they will prevail, the shining city on the hill, and there's this glorification of cia and fbi, ex—vietnam vets. and then there is the other america which sees donald trump asa the other america which sees donald trump as a figure in a culture war. this is a man who is a lightning rod for resentment, be that racial or economic, or social, or personal. that's something you cannot defuse via politics. that is a straight psychological line. a pact between him and the base. it's not about politics, right or left, it's about all of these grievances that trump validates for people. that's the difficulty. and what they are for, if that is the case, what should be,

what will be the democrat's tactics? the democrats need an analog to donald trump. they need a culture warrior. they need a clinton, a sort of man who can, relate to the working class white, or black working class white, or black working class. was seen, at the moment, completely lost and feasting this issue of automation, robot is asian, loss of jobs, this issue of automation, robot is asian, loss ofjobs, what sort of jobs? america has a long history of cometh the hour, cometh the man. richard nixon got on that helicopter in1974, richard nixon got on that helicopter in 1974, few people had heard of, much less cared about bill clinton. he was some years away. i suspect that bill clinton who became one of the most popular americas in modern times, i suspect there is somebody,

somebody will emerge who will offer the prospect of the returning america to its moorings. the returning thing is what i find difficult. i think this idea that we canjust go difficult. i think this idea that we can just go back to how things were before donald trump and it will be 0k, before donald trump and it will be ok, i think something has been broken. the democrats need to start reaching out. they need to double down on their politics, basically. they have always been accused, but never at she did it properly. they need to reach out to blacks, hispanics, women, immigrants, and stop trying to win back this mythical white coalminer that won the election for donald trump. he's not mythical. yes, years. what swung it for donald trump wasn't white coalminer is, it was those who are earning more than $100 a year, lawyers and university professors. this idea of the kind of heartlands

that the democrats left behind, its erroneous. people are fixated on the idea of returning to pre—trumps politics, and the democratic party we forging as a nation and a working class, that's a dead end. let's hope they do find some salvation, because all of a sudden around this table rely so heavily on american economics. i completely agree. we can expect 50 years of chaos. that's optimistic! i was going to say we we re optimistic! i was going to say we were trying to find a bit of optimism. more passionate debate next week on dateline, there is going to be plenty to discuss this autumn with midterms and the brexit deal to debate. join us next week, if you can, thank you for watching and goodbye. hello, it's the 1st of september.

weather—wise it looks like we could see something summary. largely dry with some good spells of sunshine. the reason for more cloud, is these weather friends which continue to flirt. high pressure to the east means we draw up flirt. high pressure to the east means we draw up a flirt. high pressure to the east means we draw up a southerly wind from spain and france. that's why we see temperatures rising. a fairly cloudy afternoon across much of the north and west, the best of the sunny spells across the eastern half of england. largely dry, generally

light winds, some good sunny spells across eastern areas. foremost, around 20 or celsis across the west. the reason for more cloud across northern and western areas is because of these weather fronts which will continue to flirt with parts of scotland and northern ireland — high pressure to the east of the country means we will draw up a feed of southerly winds from spain and from france. that is why we will see these temperatures rising. these temperatures it will be a fairly cloudy afternoon, i think, across much of the north and west of the country. the best of the saudi spells will be across the eastern half of england. but at least it will be largely dry. generally light winds too. with some good sunny spells across central and eastern areas that could make the mid—20s celsius. but for most around 20, 21 celsius across the west. here, thicker cloud across western wales may herald a few spots of light and patchy rain for western scotland who will see the thickest of the

cloud that again eastern parts of northern ireland and the north—east of scotland to see sunny spells where we could see 19 or 20 celsius for aberdeen. into the overnight period it will stay largely dry. a few spots of rain across western hills and that will be a lot of cloud around so that will blanket in the temperatures as we pick up this warm southerly breeze. we will see a return to those orange colours overnight. it is going to be a pretty one start to celsius for aberdeen. into the overnight period it will stay largely dry. a few spots of rain across western hills and that will be a lot of cloud around so that will blanket in the temperatures as we pick up this warm southerly breeze. we will see a return to those orange colours overnight. it is going to be a pretty one start to be a lot of cloud around so that will blanket in the temperatures as we pick up this warm southerly breeze. we will see a return to those orange colours overnight. it is going to be a pretty one start to sunday the temperatures no lower than 14 or 15 degrees for many towns and cities. again one to cool spots across the far south—east because of clear skies overnight. that means you see the best of the sunshine here through sunday and i'm through sunday we should see more

holes appearing in the cloud further north and west. so it could be quite warm across the north—east of scotland for example. here there's weather front will be arriving across western parts this is bbc news. the headlines at midday. an investigation claims hm revenue & customs blocks people from receiving honours, if they're found to be avoiding tax. they are going after schemes of this time and individuals who benefited from them are being held to account. a man has appeared in court, charged with the murder of a mother and daughter, who were stabbed outside their home in solihull. more misery for northern rail passengers, as more than two thirds of services are cancelled, in a dispute over driver—only operated trains. in halfan

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