ordered thousands of far—right demonstrators to disperse over safety concerns. they say that the anti—migrant rally — which drew more than four—thousand participants — had overrun its authorised time limit. earlier, several thousand counter—demonstrators attempted to block their route. tributes have been paid to the late senator — john mccain — at a memorial service in washington. two former presidents — george w bush and barack obama — led the mourners — praising his patriotism. president trump — who'd feuded with him — was not invited to the service. there's been criticism of the decision by the united states to withdraw all funding from the un agency that provides assistance to palestinian refugees, amid fears it could further destabilise the region. a spokesman for president mahmoud abbas described the move as a flagrant assault against the palestinian people. now on bbc news, dateline london.

hello and a warm welcome to dateline london, i'mjane hill. today we discuss whether there is positive news to report about the brexit negotiations, after some striking comments from michel barnier. we ask what is happening inside britain's labour party — and, as autumn campaigning begins in earnest for the us midterms, look at the state of american politics. with me are: the columnist for the independent yasmin alibhai—brown. long—time correspondent for the new york times john fisher burns, from france's le point, marc roche, who also spent many

years at le monde and the guardian columnist nisreen malik. is there a glimmer of a brexit deal on the horizon? the eu's chief negotiator michel barnier suggested this week he was prepared to offer britain a partnership such as there had never been with any third country. the markets got very excited at the prospect. then britain?s newish secretary of state for exiting the eu, dominic raab, after talks with m. barnier, said he?s stubbornly optimistic that a deal is within reach. marc, your reading of the summer?s brexit—related activity... that there will be in agreement and that britain will become a fairly big dangerfor the eu.

the new britain coming out of brexit will be. on michel barnier, rejoice. michelle barney is under pressure from —— michel barnier under pressure from all the governments in the year that are pro—eu. the ports in holland and belgium and france are lobbying to have the deal because they do not want chaos. there are the exporters like the german manufacturers who are very interested in the uk murky to keep it. michel barnier himself hopes to replace presidentjuncker because macron once the danish commissioner. he wants to come out of history as the man who sold brexit.

so rejoice, rejoice rejoice. i don't think so. i do not work for the independent. i work for the i newspaper. i have been reading some of the commentaries since all of this jar in the markets and there are quite a lot of serious voices saying he did not mean in the sense that it was taken that it will all be exactly what we want. the irish question remains very strong. i think one of the french ministers said britain is not going to be able to be able to pick the best choice bets and no immigration but yes to free trade. it is not what was made out.

you saw the cold water coming down very quickly. you are all doom and gloom, let's be optimistic. the agreement is in the interests of both parties to reach it. there will be people tweeting this programme already saying we have been saying that for more than a year while you sit to discuss it. john, your take on it. i think the most significant thing around this table is that marc has changed his position and is now accommodating of our brexit deal. it is welcome and i think there will be a deal and i felt for very long time will be a deal because has to be be deal. the costs of failure on both sides, as much on the side of the european union is on the side of the uk are too high to contemplate. i think events across europe such as the rise

of the rights and issues of immigration have changed the landscape in which merkel and macron our dealing and they are not going to lead the irish border which all involves ten or 12 million of the 500 million people in the european union. they will come up with some sort of fudge which may be amended in time. we have ten weeks to go. who was it who said nothing concentrates the mind is a much of the prospect of being hanged in the morning? terrible, we agreed for the first time. what is going to happen potentially is that i do not think there will be this amazing deal ever was very happy with zero of other bi deal which the british or the eu will be unhappy with. i think what is likely is that particularly on the irish border because it will be too

awkward if not resolved in time there will be a phage because that is this period after brexit, and auditorium where things can be retroactively edgier do they do not work. even although there is this very hard deadline of about november on things like the irish border because that is for a five months before the deadline of march 2019 they can come up with the transitional fudge and what appeared to be unworkable solutions. i do not think they are eminently solvable. there are a lot of practical problems around. statements were made around the good friday agreement before do was signed in saying it was too difficult. it included a lot of fudge which is mostly bought for 20 years swiping to do the solvable problem.

you're not talking about the extremists within the tory party. there is an extremist wing in the tory party and we know are. they do not want to deal. they want an ordeal exit. —— no deal. we were referencing michelle barney. —— michel barnier. what about the argument that the eu does not want to encourage other countries to leave? that is still a psychological problem. you do not want to make it too easy. that has been the argument. even the italians, the fascist italy no reluctance to even mention quitting the eu.

i think the message is to have a deal. we can't have in britain a second referendum. iam becoming british. we can't have a second referendum because no parties left or right wanted and the public does not want it. the latest polls show that the public wants it. let's not go down that route. it is three hours of a separate programme. the argument that the eu prisma countries don't want to encourage further separations could be turned on its head and said that they want to avoid that in the face of the rise of the right across europe, especially on the issue of immigration, they're going to have to make this less of a straitjacket and make concessions that will encourage people to stay as well as to punish them for leaving. one very quick point. there is this topic of the eu wanting to punish button so it is harder for other

european countries. the risks of brexit the risk of leaving the eu are very clear within the eternal divisions in the uk. the eu does need to do very little to show it is a bad idea. j has been divisive and racially hurt has been divisive and economically it has been really damaging so the way it is played out organically within the uk over the past couple of years practically shows it is valid. when is the evidence for that? the figures i see do not support that. there was an investment

report 48 hours ago that showed that the uk continues even these uncertain times to attract far more foreign direct investment than the rest of the world. we are seven weeks away from the eu summit in october which is when both sides have said they want agreement. we will return to this in subsequent problems. we will be watching. to no avail. he and others don?t want britain to feel disenchanted and therefore in britain, what is happening inside her majesty?s opposition? the row about anti—semitism within labour isn?t abating. this week frank field — who?s been a labour mp since 1979 and a party memberfor 60 years — resigned from it, citing anti—semitism and a culture of bullying. the deputy leader warned the resignation was a sign of the party?s drift, and reflected its deep divisions.

yasmin, his resignation is about more than just anti—semitism, but is tom watson right that this is a wake up call? i don't think frank field is a wake—up call. his presence has been problematic. i do think the labour party is mishandled the situation. it has let it drift politically for so long. it has become noxious with the result was no way out of it. i do not know who is advising jeremy corbyn. he is not an anti—semite. the noxious fumes are engulfing the party and in that sense, watson was right. going back to frank field, to see him supposedly martyring himself on this. he has been good on some aspects of business etc but he has been vehemently anti—immigration. in 2008 a bishop in england said he was an enoch powell of our times. he isa

nativist. i admire him for some things. because of the way it has been mishandled the situation will create further flames. do people around the table echo the point that the labour party has allowed the row about anti—semitism to carry on for too long? we have all been talking about this for a good few months now. it is a distraction, isn't it? the frank field of who you speak is not the frank field line although i do not know him personally. it is not the frank field deeply respected by the many people who are them in parliament. for eight years he sent e—mails.... he is against immigrants. a broader point about the state of the party.

someone who came to his understanding about what underlies the founding of the state of israel in the television series which is about 14 or 15 hours and akin to a deep understanding. and the poor understanding. i understand there is such sensitivity. they need to make sure they are not closing off debate including debate that does include the right of israel. it is a strong state and it can defend itself so i think that will have to be a compromise. we would like to see the labour party being in opposition and have an economic policy. i would like them to develop that. what is a position of the labour party and brexit? i think as soon as this issue is solved and labour becoming the opposition to a week and divisive government.

i do not think we should fixate on frank field 's personal history oi'i race or nativism or immigration. there is a serious bullying issue with the labour party. i have got the brunt of it completely randomly. there is a sense that things are out of control. there is an atmosphere of witchhunts and people are looking for traitors and saboteurs. at the moment if you talk to a certain type of labour activist about anti—semitism of the taller bullying the first responses do you not care about beating the tory party? the point is we should be about being against tory party and stick together and anybody who descends from that line is our traitor and instrumental icing bullying which leads us back to the same position again which is no one taking it seriously there is a serious bullying issue with the labour party. i have got the brunt of it completely randomly. there is a sense that things are out of control. there is an atmosphere of witchhunts and people are looking for traitors and saboteurs.

at the moment if you talk to a certain type of labour activist about anti—semitism of the taller bullying the first responses do you not care about beating the tory party? the point is we should be about being against tory party and stick together and anybody who descends from that line is our traitor and instrumental icing bullying which leads us back to the same position again which is no one taking it seriously enough because they see it all as a way to undermine left and to undermine carbon and to strengthen the tory government and we're frank field is important, is that he is seen as a traitor because he propped up the conservative party on a vote where he was one of three labour rebels. the nec meets tuesday to discuss, then the plp votes on it. think it is wrong to say these

criticisms of frank field are personal. i am criticisms of frank field are personal. iam not criticisms of frank field are personal. i am not talking about his family or his character, i am talking about his politics. that is what i meant. he is a nativist. his politics are nativist. to mark's point, any functioning healthy democracy surely needs a strong opposition irrespective of political colour. after the last election, would be exception of scotland, basically the two parties are now dominating the political landscape. we need an opposition, because at the moment the government is getting away with murder. yes, we will leave that for now. it ties in with brexit. therefore, it will rear its head again. let's turn to the united states. in the us, a new newspaper opinion poll suggests nearly half of americans believe donald trump should be impeached —

the poll was carried out in the week it became clear that two key former staffers, michael cohen and paul manafort, would face prison sentences for financial crimes — with cohen, trump's one—time personal lawyer, implicating the president in election campaign fraud. as we enter september, the midterm elections are just two months away — they will determine whether democrats retake control of congress. john, this isjust one poll, others haven't shown a marked shift since manafort/cohen. what's your reading of the mood in washington? obviously this is bad news for trump and his supporters, especially with the imminence of the mid—term elections. i have said this before, iam old elections. i have said this before, i am old enough to remember, the closest thing we have to template for this, and that was the last two yea rs of for this, and that was the last two years of richard nixon's presidency,

when he won re—election by a landslide and was gone within 18 months, as landslide and was gone within18 months, as i recall. the prosecutorial and judicial processes we re prosecutorial and judicial processes were moving against him and he chose to get on a helicopter and fly to san clemente rather than face a trial in the senate. i can see how this business is mannerfought and cohen, the obstruction ofjustice case that is mueller appears to be building, all of this could build intolerable pressures against trump. i wouldn't be surprised if he makes his own choice to climb on a helicopter at some point. you think trump himself? one thing you cannot doubt is that trump has a pretty large ego, and will not admit to criticism. this would be the most serious form of this is he could face. wouldn't it make him a martyr? he mightjudge, face. wouldn't it make him a martyr? he might judge, if face. wouldn't it make him a martyr? he mightjudge, if he was uncertain of surviving the impeachment process in the senate, that he would do better to leave and to build a martyr's legend. you are shaking your head. it reminds me of a quote

around the time margaret thatcher was being challenged before she was deposed, one of her party members said, you cannot hand margaret thatcher a gun, she will shoot you with it. the idea was that she was supposed to go away quietly, but all it did was it turned against her owfi. it did was it turned against her own. trump will do that. if you hand him a gun and say, go away quietly into the night, he will shoot his owfi into the night, he will shoot his own people. there is no way, if he sees own people. there is no way, if he sees there is potential for impeachment, that he will not run straight into it. and turn it into a very divisive process. and use the american people, and his base, to say, look, we came here from you voted for me, and the deep state and the american institutions that are against the common man and are working against you. and i think thatis working against you. and i think that is one of the reasons why the republican party is so low is to discuss impeachment, and is being really cowardly on trump and the mill investigation, because they know that if trump transmits his bat signal to his base, you know, the

apparatchiks of the american machine, that you voted against when you brought me into the white house, they are now usurping your will. and thatis they are now usurping your will. and that is not good anybody. the poll we need to see is, what is happening among the 63 million americans who voted for him? are they deserting him? evidently, they are not yet. you are absolutely right, those polls have stayed steady. the people who voted for him, for the most part, say they would do it again. he has delivered a good deal of what he promised in the election. there is another argument which goes to what you a saying, which is that the economy is doing well. that is mostly inherent in staff from obama, the tax cuts did work, they have created jobs. the growth is good. the danger is that the democrats, not really having a lead, coming out of the woods at the moment, that we might be stuck at the end of the mandate with the economy doing well

and the president, with a good economy, could be re—elected. i think that is why the democrats don't necessarily want the impeachment. so many of his supporters have guns and he has already started muttering, hasn't he, that there will be a civil war. he has already said it. do you know, i thought, what we have read in the la st i thought, what we have read in the last week about john mccain, john mccain's passing, the enormous outpouring across republican and democratic parties, and across america, with respect for him, that struck me that that was very much, although struck me that that was very much, althouthohn struck me that that was very much, although john maclean was a great man, in my view, of the american politicians that i came to know at all well, he would be very high on the list of people i most abide, as it seems to me that behind that outpouring of affection and admiration for him, lay a yearning in america to get back to a government that observes the basic moral standards of the republic.|j

am not sure i agree. i think there are am not sure i agree. i think there a re two am not sure i agree. i think there are two americas. there is the misty eyed america, you know, the new york times columnist america, that things, we will prevail and there is a shining city on the hill, and their hero was james comey and andrew mueller and there is a glorification of the cia and fbi and xp and arm that is, there is the other america, which sees donald trump isa other america, which sees donald trump is a figure in a culture war. you know, this is a man who is a lightning rod for their resentments, whether they are racial or economic or social or personal. and that is something you cannot defuse via politics. that is a straight line, psychologically, between him and the base. it is not about politics, not about right or left. it is about these coalesced grievances that trump validates for people. and that is the difficulty. and then what therefore, if that is the case, what should be, what will be, the

democrats' tactics, going into that? that is the question. the democrats need an analogue to trump. they need a culture warrior who was an analogue to trump. but then you have analogue to trump. but then you have a clinton, a type of clinton's sort of man who can particularly relates to these working—class white, or black working class, who seem at the moment facing this huge issue of automation, robotics, loss ofjobs. he is creating jobs, but what sort ofjobs are they? he is creating jobs, but what sort of jobs are they? america has a long history of, cometh the owl, come of the man. —— cometh the hour. when richard nixon got on that helicopter in 1974, very few people had heard of bill clinton. he came —— he became of the most popular american leaders in modern times. i suspect there is somebody, we may not know him yet, but somebody will emerge who will offer a prospect of

returning america to its moorings. who will offer a prospect of returning america to its mooringslj think returning america to its moorings.” think the returning thing is what i find difficult. i think that this idea, that if we just go back to how things were before trump, everything will be ok, i think that something has been broken permanently. i think the democrats need to start reaching out to the people that lost it for them, two years ago. they need to double down on identity politics, basically. which is what they have always been accused of, but never actually did properly. they need to double down a reaching out to black people, hispanics, women and immigrants, and to stop trying to win back this mythical white coalminer that won the election for trump. not mythical. it is mythical. if you look at the people who voted fortrump, if you look at the people who voted for trump, what swung it for him was not white coalminer is, it was people earning more than $100,000 a year. lawyers and university professors voted for trump. this idea that there is a kind of heartland, the democrats left

behind, and that they need to win it back, it is erroneous. if people get fixated on the idea of returning to pre— trump politics, and the democratic party re— forging its relationship with the working class, i think that is a dead—end. relationship with the working class, i think that is a dead-end. let's hope that america does find some salvation because all of us, including all us around this table, rely so heavily on america economically, politically, and morally. i agree. i think economically, politically, and morally. i agree. ithink there economically, politically, and morally. i agree. i think there is 50 yea rs of morally. i agree. i think there is 50 years of chaos. you are optimistic! you've converted her to optimism. i was going to say, we we re optimism. i was going to say, we were trying to find a bit of a ms around the table today. yes and no. a more passionate debate next week on dateline london. the mid—term elections are two months away, the eu summit is in october. plenty to discuss this autumn and plenty of passionate debate. join us next week on dateline london, if you can. thank you for watching. the buyer. —— goodbye.

hello. eastern parts of the uk will see the lion's share of the sunshine in the day ahead, particularly east anglia and the south—east of england, but some sunny spells in north—east scotland, lifting the temperatures towards the low to mid—20s. elsewhere, a good deal of cloud around. some patchy rain and chisel out about cloud and some more substantial rain edging into northern ireland and western scotland, as we going into the later stages of the afternoon and evening. nowhere particularly cold. quite windy and northern ireland scotland, easing a bit later on. that will continue to move south as we go through sunday night and into monday morning, but very, very slowly, as it does so. the high and the weather system, those areas of northern ireland and scotland look clear. it will turn chillier ahead of that

weather system, and quite a wandi to come. still some rain affecting parts of eastern scotland into monday. northern england, wales and the midlands, into the south—west. behind that weather system it is cooler, but ahead of it, still a bit of warmth to be had. hello and welcome to bbc news. in germany thousands of far—right demonstrators, with many chanting nazi slogans, have been marching through through the city of kemnitz. it's a week since a german man was stabbed to death there — apparently by two asylum seekers. this triggered a series of violent demonstrations. the far right political party afd has been accused of inflaming tensions. our correspondent jenny hill is there. fury, hostility on the streets of chemnitz.

lugenpresse — "lying press," they shout.