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hello it's monday, it's 9am, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. doctors are facing a mental health crisis like never before — that's the warning today from the most senior professional in england in this field. we'll hear from the mum of a 26—year—old junior doctor who took her own life. given that she had always got better so quickly before i think if she should have seen somebody three and a half weeks before she died and had the right medication, i expect she would be here. if you're a doctor who's had or having mental helath problems — where do you turn for help? lucy mecklenburg, the partner of celebrity big brother contestant ryan thomas, is here in herfirst radio or tv interview about the physical abuse allegations her boyfriend is at the centre of. it comes after this incident featuring another cbb contestant roxanne pallet. i've got a little towel i am going to use. woman beater! go on, get in,
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soi'i. reality star lucy mecklenburg gives us her first tv or radio interview since the controversy and says channel 5 should have stepped in sooner to help her boyfriend ryan thomas. the home secretary warns there are up to 80,000 paedophiles in the uk who pose a threat to children online. charities say social media sites need to be regulated. what we have seen for the last few yea rs what we have seen for the last few years is that the big social networks in particular have failed to ta ke networks in particular have failed to take the steps they need to to keep children safe on their platforms. that's why we need government to step in to deliver statutory regulation of the websites. the home secretary is to outline what he plans to do about it in a speech later. good morning. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until ”am this morning.
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chris evans is going to be leaving his breakfast show later in the year. new research by the uk's leading charity for young people with cancer suggests children with the disease have to travel twice as far — and their parents have to spend twice as much — as adults needing the same life—saving treatment. why? if that sounds like your family — how far do you have to travel? and what effect is it having on your child? use the #victorialive. if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you — and maybe want to take part in the programme — please include your phone number in your message. the top new story today. up to 80,000 paedophiles in the uk pose a sexual threat to children online — that's according to the home secretary sajid javid. he'll make the claim in a speech later this morning. he says he's shocked at the scale of the sexual abuse of children and has vowed to make it his personal mission to tackle it. new figures show that the number of referrals of child abuse images to the national crime agency surged by 700% in the last five years. 0ur correspondent duncan kennedy reports.
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child abuse images — the 21st—century curse on the internet. the home office says today that pictures are getting more graphic, and technology is making it easier to fund and facilitate this vile trade. the new figures from the national crime agency today show the scale of what is going on. it says there are now up to 80,000 people in the uk who present some kind of sexual threat to children online, and that in the past five years there has been a 700% increase in the number of child abuse images referred to the nca. the home secretary, sajid javid, will today give what is being called a flagship speech on the issue. having visited the nca to see its work, mrjavid is expected to speak of the full horror of the scale and evolving nature of child sexual abuse. really now we need to see
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a co—ordinated response, led by government, but with law enforcement and crucially also industry. because what we've seen for the last few years is that the big social networks in particular have failed to take the steps that they need to to keep children safe on their platforms. that's why we now need government to step in and deliver statutory regulation of these sites. the nca says it has just arrested more than 130 people in its latest operation against online child abuse. but it says this is just a fraction of the wider problem. duncan kennedy, bbc news. we will talk more about that after 10am this morning. joanna gosling is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the days news. good morning. borisjohnson has attacked the prime minister's brexit strategy — describing it as a fix, and claiming that the uk will get what he calls "two thirds of diddly squat" from the negotiations. he's also accused some members of the government of using the irish border issue to stop
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what he described as a "proper brexit". 0ur political correspondent ben wright has this report. we know borisjohnson is no fan of the prime minister's brexit plan. despite being the most prominent campaigner for leaving the eu, mrjohnson thinks the government's proposal for keeping the uk and the eu closely aligned for trade in goods as a sell—out. injuly, he walked out of the cabinet in anger, and has now used his newspaper column to put the boot in again. mrjohnson claims the chequers plan means going into battle with the white flag fluttering. he said it would lead only to victory for the eu, while leaving the uk lying flat on the canvas. dozens of tory mps will agree with him. but, while brexiteers promise to put forward a alternative plan shortly, other tory mps are urging the prime minister to advocate a much closer relationship with the eu,
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demonstrating again how split the party is on the future of brexit, and the bind theresa may is in. compounding problems, the eu's chief negotiator, michel barnier, said he was strongly opposed to key parts of the prime minister's plan. even if theresa may can get a deal done with brussels this autumn, it has to be approved by mps, and at the moment it looks hard to see how that will happen. the most senior doctor looking after the mental health of england's doctors has told this programme that the situation is at "tipping point". suicide rates among doctors are rising — and the number of female doctors taking their own lives is four times as high as that among people in other professions. in 2016, 26—year—old junior doctor sophie spooner suffered a panic attack while working on a paediatrics ward. 2a hours later, she had ta ken her own life. her mother, dr laurel spooner, believes her suicide was the result of depression which she had struggled with in the past. when she said that she had had bouts
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of depression one doctor said, you feeling suicidal now? she was very taken aback but said, "no". and he said, ok, and ticked a box and didn't say anything else so what was the point of her disclosing it in a sense of the system couldn't respond and decide to take better care of this brilliant young doctor. and you can see more of that interview on the programme in a few minutes' time — just after the sport. a fire has destroyed a large section of the landmark former littlewoods pools building in liverpool. the blaze broke outjust before 8pm last night, and it took 50 firefighters several hours to bring it under control. the five—storey art deco structure had been empty for the last 15 years but part of the building was due to be turned into a film and tv production site. 0ur reporter dave guest is outside the building now. and iconic building. what state is
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it in now? it is in a pretty poor state. if you come this way the fire is now largely out, it has a few hotspots left but if you look through there you can see the fire service still here in some numbers trying to dampen it down properly. as you say this is an iconic building built in 1938 for the littlewoods pools organisation, it was two identical buildings, this was two identical buildings, this was the west wing where the fire broke out destroying the roof and upperfloors broke out destroying the roof and upper floors last night however, the structure of the building seems to be intact more or less. i talked to the owner of the building shortly be a short while ago and he is still confident that the works to turn the building intoa confident that the works to turn the building into a tv studio can still go ahead. this is an important building in liverpool on edge lane, one of the main commuter routes into the city, lots of people will know this building and have had family who work here over the years and
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will want to see it restored and put to good use in the nearfuture. thanks very much, dave. the left—wing group, momentum, which supports jeremy corbyn, is calling for "open selection" of labour's parliamentary candidates. it's backing moves by some constituency parties to make it simpler for sitting mps to be challenged. centrist mps fear the idea is aimed at purging them from the party. two journalists from the reuters news agency have been sentenced to seven years in prison in myanmarfor breaking the country's 0fficial secrets act. ajudge has ruled that wa lone and kyaw soe 0o had actively sought secret documents while investigating alleged crimes committed by the burmese military against rohingya muslims. the journalists said they were framed by police because of their reports about the killing of rohingya muslims. let's cross live to yangon in myanmar — where the bbc‘s nick beake has been following the story. tell us what reporting these two did
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and what they have been found guilty of? the judge said these two reporters actively sought out sensitive information that was harmful to the national interest and useful to enemies of the state but i can tell you inside the court room earlier there were lots of top diplomats from the us, the uk and they have said this is wrong, basically this is a stitch up, in other words they were journalists doing theirjob and it is freedom of the press that was in the dock here. many are seeing this as a dark day for free journalism many are seeing this as a dark day forfreejournalism in many are seeing this as a dark day for free journalism in myanmar and questioning the direction the whole country will be taking. these two journalists got an exclusive story, they had sources and put together a story that said that the myanmar military were behind a massacre of ten rohingya men and unusually the army said some of the soldiers were involved in this, nonetheless the trial came to its conclusion today and rather than being rewarded for
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their investigative efforts we see that these two reporters are starting seven—year prison sentences. theirfamilies starting seven—year prison sentences. their families were starting seven—year prison sentences. theirfamilies were in court today and say they are devastated by this verdict. reuters say their journalists devastated by this verdict. reuters say theirjournalists have done nothing wrong and outside court once again the journalists said they are innocent and will fight all the way. lots of people have condemned the decision made today. thank you very much. a huge fire has gutted the national museum of brazil in rio de janeiro, the oldest scientific institution in the country. the nuseum has more than 20 million items in its collection, including fossils, artworks and documents spanning several centuries. most of it is believed to have been destroyed. the museum, which was once a royal palace, celebrated its 200—year anniversary earlier this year. chris evans has announced he will be leaving bbc radio 2 after 13 years at the station. the broadcaster took sir terry wogan‘s show in 2010, and regularly attracts
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9 million listeners — more than any other breakfast show in the uk. chris evans made the announcement this morning telling listeners he'd stay on air until christmas. i'm going to leave. i'm going to leave radio 2, i'm leaving radio 2. since i decided this, which has been a conversation i've been having with my nearest and dearest for, like, a year. i first discussed it professionally last year. i discussed it with my colleagues here and my bosses here a few months ago. just discussed the possibility of it, the prospect of it, and a few weeks ago i made up my mind for sure. thank you for your messages about the news chris evans will be leaving the news chris evans will be leaving the breakfast show. rob says, sad day for radio two, listen to his show daily. at last, brexit dividend, another of you rights.
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politico phil says no doubt the replacement criteria will be more about bbc political correctness or nepotism, doing the same entrenched thing rather than bringing in the best person for thejob. thing rather than bringing in the best person for the job. always positive! your reaction, of course, welcome, to the fact chris evans will be leaving the breakfast show. i was taken by surprise, it is a very successful radio morning programme. we have the sport in the second. between 9:30am and 10am this morning we will talk to the partner of celebrity big brother's ryan thomas, who has been at the centre of the physical abuse allegations. she will give us her take on the whole incident. if you have been watching celebrity big brother, get in touch using the #victoria live,
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and if you are texting you will be charged a standard network rate. before that, the sport with hugh woozencroft. if he had a ticket at the ageas bowl in southampton you got a fantastic past couple of days. saturday saw a composed batting performance and that set up two days in the field with a defendable target for england winning the fourth test with a day to spare and took the series win, moeen ali taking four wickets yesterday in a man of the match performance but the winning them it was fitting for 20—year—old sam curran with the final wicket meaning england have an unassailable 3—1 series lead but india will feel were a couple of tight games. some missed opportunities for them. captain joe root for england impressed by the performance. credit to india, they've played some really fine cricket throughout, not just this game, but the whole series. you look across it, it must have been great viewing for people
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at home to see, the way that especially the first two games went. sorry, the first game and this one, how tight they've been and how it swung both ways. i think it's a really good sign for test cricket. entertaining series between england and india so far. casting of any doubts over the five—day game. in terms of the premier league football, watford keep up their 100% record, which was a surprise to totte n ha m record, which was a surprise to tottenham hotspur and some others. they will or did earlier in the week after their win against manchester united but they were brought firmly back down to earth by watford in the premier league yesterday ending spurs' perfect start but made it four wins from four themselves and they are the surprise package so far this season, craig cathcart scored the winner in their 2—1 victory at vicarage road, coming much to the delight of their honorary vice president eltonjohn delight of their honorary vice president elton john in delight of their honorary vice president eltonjohn in the stands,
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he clearly couldn't hide his delight. there were also wins for chelsea and liverpool yesterday, so along with watford three teams with four wins from four, only the second time that has happened in premier league history. things looking up for and jose mourinho who has had a grumpy start to the season and preseason when he was quite grumpy too. it has been a great week for the manchester united boss, pretty tetchy with reporters going into their game against burnley. in the end it was a good win from them. it wasn't quite a rocket man over turf moor but a clear message some manchester united fans are not too happy with their executive vice—chairman ed woodward, flying a plane over the ground calling him a specialist in failure, coining a term used by jose specialist in failure, coining a term used byjose mourinho aimed at arsene a few years back. romelu lukaku scored twice in their win over burnley but youngster marcus rashford saw red for united for this angry reaction to a phil bardsley challenge. that didn't impress his manager much
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at all. i would say a very inexperienced man. phil bardsley has been in the game for a long time, but marcus rashford is a naive boy. so, his manager calling him "naive" — afterwards he did though, take time to apologised to everyone associated with the club, saying his "emotions got the better of him"... so united back to winning ways in spite of rashford seeing red. it is now an international break. the highlight will be a blend's match with spain. that's all the sport for now. thanks very much. welcome to the programme. we rely on doctors to look after our mental health, but is enough being done to help them with theirs? the most senior doctor looking after the mental health of england's doctors has told this programme the situation is at "tipping point" — with medical professionals facing a mental health crisis like never before. dr clare gerada says talking about the mental health of doctors is the last taboo'.
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—— is "the last taboo". she's the medical director of the nhs practitioner health programme — the only confidential service that offers doctors a full range of assessment, treatment and case management for all mental health problems, and she wants to end the postcode lottery of where doctors can access specialist help. chris hemmings has this report. there's about 240,000 doctors working in the nhs. we rely on many of them to treat our mental health issues but is enough being done to help them with theirs? she went home. she looked up more things about how to end her life. and then she took all the pills she had and was found the next morning by her sister. the most senior person looking after the mental health of our doctors has told this programme that nhs doctors are facing a mental health crisis like never before. we've had doctors
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who have come and are actively suicidal. we have had doctors who have, who have had most of, or a lot of their life, disintegrate because of their mental illness and the fact that they can't find any other place to go for help. she says an increase in complaints made against doctors is fuelling the rise but she's more concerned that the fear of losing their jobs and the stigma faced from within their profession means too few feel able to speak out. i was absolutely desperate to stay at work. you know, i never waivered from that. she's worried about the number of doctors taking their own lives and is calling for her confidential service to be offered to every doctor in england. in october 2017, 26—year—old sophie spooner, who had a previous diagnosis of bipolar, suffered a panic attack whilst working
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on a pediatrics ward. 2a hours later she'd ta ken her own life. speaking for the first time after the inquest into her death, her mum has told this programme how a string of failures led to the death of her daughter. she started her medical career and the depression came up again. so altogether she'd had four depressions and the most recent one before the one which killed her was in march of last year and, having got better from march, seeming to be a lot better, she must‘ve very rapidly become depressed again because nobody around her really saw what was happening. and she had a week's holiday, she came back from holiday, went into work, did a morning clinic in which nobody noticed that anything was wrong. and at 12:00 she looked at sites on the computer at work. she switched off her bleep. she took the card out of her phone.
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she went home. she looked up more things on her laptop. about what? how to end her life and then she took all the pills she had and was found the next morning by her sister. so when she finally couldn't go on, it was behind this front that had been so good that, even in the clinic that morning, nobody had noticed and, in my family, we are four doctors and we had no idea that was coming either. dr clare gerada is the medical director of the nhs practitioner health programme. it's the only confidential service that offers doctors a full range of assessment, treatment and case management for all mental health problems. in london, any kind of doctor can self refer to the php but in the rest of england only gps can access the service. clare now wants the php to be offered to any doctor who needs confidential support wherever they are in the country
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and says we are at a tipping point within the nhs when it comes to doctors' mental health. doctors are incredibly high risk for mental illness. female doctors have up to four times the risk of suicide in comparison to other people in the population. and wherever you look, and i am looking at doctors, doctors currently working in the system are really quite distressed whether that's burn out at one end or formal depression, anxiety or even suicide at the other end, but overall there is a lot of mental distress contained within the workforce within the nhs. so what are the main barriers that doctors face when it comes to them addressing and seeking help for their own mental health problems? well, you would think that doctors who worked in the system would know where to go to but actually if you're depressed, you're depressed. the fact you're a depressed doctor doesn't make you more or less competent at finding help but there are also other barriers. there's barriers around
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actually practically getting time out to seek help. but there's also barriers around confidentiality. you don't want to go and tell somebody you work with that you're maybe drinking too much or you've got suicidal thoughts. and what tends to happen is either doctors do nothing and suffer in silence, right to the bitter end, or they have what's called corridor conversations — snippets of conversation — done literally in the corridor, which doesn't help them at all. doctors looking after doctors aren't very good at looking after their own kind. they tend to be embarrassed. they treat the sick doctor not as the vulnerable patient but as a fellow professional and might even ask them to sort out their own medication or ask them to sort out their own tests, and actually missing the fact that this is a vulnerable doctor, a vulnerable patient. in text messages sent to her mum, sophie disclosed her desire to see her private psychiatrist in colchester so as not to alert the nhs she was unwell. but it was too far to travel home
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between shifts from brighton. she was not only frustrated at being unwell, but she feared she'd be shoved into hospital if she admitted she was feeling depressed and then everyone would know about her illness. she was delighted to be told about the nhs practitioner health programme but because she was outside london she was told she could only have access if she was referred by her employer, meaning it would no longer be confidential. she was understandably angry and jokingly described herself as, "sane compared to this mad health service." she was looking for a mental health service that would have understood her mental problem in the context of being a doctor, of being a person who wanted to be well and strong. so this is three and a half weeks before she died, so she was on the way to help, and just the right sort of help that i would have wanted her to have. given that she'd always got better so quickly before, i think if she could have seen
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somebody three and a half weeks before she died and had the right medication, i expect she would be here. when she started at her new hospital as a locum, did she tell anyone about her previous mental health problems? yes. when she started her most recentjob she was seen by occupational health. so what was said to her? when she said that she had had bouts of depression, one doctor said, well, are you feeling suicidal now? she was very taken aback but she said no. and he said, ok, and seemed to just tick a box. he didn't say anything else. so what was the point of her disclosing it in a sense if the sytem couldn't respond and decide to take better care of this brilliant young doctor? do you think doctors are expected to hide their mental health problems and kind of put up a brave face? when you're a doctor you can put on a superb front. you don't want your colleagues to know, you don't want your patients to know, but equally sophie knew that she had this illness, and she knew when she needed help. i think the last taboo in the nhs
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is the acknowledgement that doctors also have mental health problems, that doctors themselves are not immune to all the pressures that's piled on them, that doctors can somehow absorb all the stress and strains of what everyday medical practices. —— of what everyday medical practice is. and i think it is the last taboo. what my service has shown is that if you offer an accessible confidential service then doctors will come for treatment and notjust come, they get better. in the 10 years since the php was set up it's seen over 5000 doctors. the service has treated more than double the amount of women to men. the average age of doctors presenting has dropped from 51.6 years old in 2008 to 38,9 in 2018. about a quarter weren't working when they first presented to the php but more than 900 of those doctors subsequently returned to work. louise freeman is the co—chair
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of the doctors support network and was a consultant in emergency medicine. in 2008 her contract was terminated due to health capacity after an episode of depression. she and her doctor both agree that the handling of the initial episode has been a major factor contributing to her ongoing ill health. she hasn't been able to work in the nhs since. it felt as if what i was saying i could do wasn't taken very seriously by the place that i was working. you mean within the parameters in which you felt comfortable going back to work? yeah. i ended up going back forfour months, during which i felt as if i was kind of quite isolated from my medical colleagues and i felt as if i was being pushed to increase what i was doing. so you were a doctor with a mental health problem. did you feel like you had anyone around you to reach out to? i wonder if there'd
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been easier access to the expert services whether i would have got so sick. i think specialist services for health care professionals, not just for doctors, i think that they can be quite difficult to justify. you know there's lots of things fighting for funding for space and for time. and, you know, on the surface you might readily think doctors all get great mental health care because they'll know who to go to. but actually we're kind of a hard to reach group. we can be very worried about confidentiality. and that can be a concern for people that work in primary care, gps. do you think doctors don't come forward because they're fearful of losing theirjobs, just like you did? yeah. effectively if you look at the incidence of doctors having mental health issues, we're more likely to have a problem than the general public. so i think the way that we think
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about it is the wrong way round. i was absolutely desperate to stay at work. you know, i never sort of wavered from that. and you know it cost £610,000 to train me. and we need more consultants in emergency medicine. dr gerada says another big factor in the mental health crisis is the lack of support for doctors during the complaints process. the issue of complaints is a significant factor in many doctors and their depression anxiety and also sadly their suicides. the issue of complaints is a significant factor in many doctors and their depression anxiety and also sadly their suicides. 0ne doctor described this as a diagnosis of cancer. but other doctors have said it is the most catastrophic event. it shatters their sense of self and no matter how trivial the complaint we know that it changes the doctor
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more or less forever. and of course patients should be able to complain about the care they receive but making a complaint should be a very serious thought to do. for the doctor there is no process. there is no timescale. they're given very little support. at best they're signposted out of the organization. well actually they need somebody holding their hand. and if you're young. and you've got few support systems or maybe you've had a history of mental illness or maybe your boyfriend just left you. the risk is that that young person begins to catastrophise, that young person begins to ruminate. that young person begins to think well i'm going to lose myjob. and actually what sometimes happens is they lose their life by killing themselves rather than actually having someone leading them by the hand and saying stop worrying. it's nothing. let me help. sophie spooner‘s death came just two months after a complaint
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was made against her. but it's notjust young doctors who can be affected. richard harding was a consultant in 2016. his family planned to emigrate to new zealand just a few weeks before they left. his family planned to emigrate to new zealand just a few weeks before they left a complaint was made against him that went to the general medical council. the family continued with their plans but it took five months for him to be cleared. nine months ago richard took his own life on the very same day sophie spooner committed suicide. richard's family are now back in the uk and his wife kate who is a gp says the lack of support offered to him of his complaint was outstanding. it brought back depression he hadn't had for over 20 years. while the cogs slowly turned
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and the complaint was processed the effects are much more insidious and long—lasting than you might expect. nobody reached out to him during that time? know, and i don't think it occurred to him to seek help. he was in firefighting mode, just getting through, however many months it was going to take to get us months it was going to take to get us out of the uk and our new life in new zealand. we are the helpers. we go to work and we help other people. it just feels so go to work and we help other people. itjust feels so difficult go to work and we help other people. it just feels so difficult to go to work and we help other people. itjust feels so difficult to become the person who asks for help. it's just something that is ingrained in us just something that is ingrained in us that ourjob is to help other people. we go to work to do that. the gmc say they have made major reforms to their complaints process
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to make sure vulnerable doctors are identified and supported. they also say they have a new doctor ‘s confidential support service which is available to any doctor throughout the investigation process. they have the names of at least 38 doctors they know who have taken their lives since 2006. but they are sure there are many more. if these were a0 deaths of children from meningitis these work deaths of young people who have been killed by the system and the complaints but we don't learn. if we don't learn lessons from sophie's death and the anaesthetist who died on the same
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day as sophie and from the paediatric trainee a few years older than sophie but very like sophie who died 25 miles down the road from where sophie died at exactly two months later, if we don't learn lessons from this these deaths will go on happening. an nhs england spokesperson told us: "nhs england launched the nhs gp health service in 2017, a world first, nationally—funded confidential service which specialises in supporting gps and trainee gps experiencing mental ill health and which has already helped more than 1,500 gps. nhs trusts and clinical commissioning groups, may offer additional support for professionals in their area, for example ccgs in london have commissioned the nhs practitioner health programme for their staff." we will talk more about that later in the programme. if you are a doctor, a particular a doctor, but a medical professional generally, who looks after your mental health? who
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do you turn to when you have mental health issues. still to come. we'll be speaking to a mother and her ten—year—old son about the huge costs that come with getting your child to and from hospital if they have cancer. reality star lucy mecklenburgh is here for herfirst reality star lucy mecklenburgh is here for her first interview since here for her first interview since her boyfriend ryan thomas was accused of physical abuse on celebrity big brother. time for the latest news — here'sjoanna. up to 80,000 paedophiles in the uk pose a sexual threat to children online — according to the home secretary sajid javid. in a speech this morning he says he's shocked at the scale of child sex abuse and has vowed to make it his personal mission to tackle it. new figures show a 700 % rise in the number of child abuse images referred to the national crime agency in the last five years. borisjohnson has attacked the prime minister's brexit strategy — describing it as a fix, and claiming that the uk will get what he calls "two thirds of diddly squat" from the negotiations. he's also accused some members of the government of using the irish
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border issue to stop what he described as a "proper brexit". a fire has destroyed a large section of the landmark former littlewoods pools building in liverpool. the blaze broke outjust before 8pm last night, and it took 50 firefighters several hours to bring it under control. the five—storey art deco structure had been empty for the last 15 years but part of the building was due to be turned into a film and tv production site. chris evans has announced he will be leaving bbc radio 2 after 13 years at the station. the broadcaster took over sir terry wogan's breakfast show in 2010, and regularly attracts 9 million listeners — more than any other breakfast show in the uk. chris evans made the announcement this morning telling listeners he'd stay on air until christmas. that is a summary of the latest
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news. good morning. it hasjust gone 9:35am, that means back to school, and a at parliament begins. but the new term at westminster begins amid infighting for both the conservatives in government and labour — the opposition. so, labour is beset by arguments over anti—semitism and its definition — on which the party's leadership council is due to vote tomorrow. meanwhile former foreign secretary borisjohnson has launched a full—throated attack on the prime minister, accusing mrs may of not even trying to achieve a good brexit. two people who've been watching the combat from afar are katy balls — political correspondent for the spectator — a conservative magazine with a focus on politics and current affairs. and also with me is 0wen bennett. he is the former deputy political editor of online news website huffington post — and now a freelance journalist and author of the book the brexit club. almost everyone, it seems, wants to destroy m rs almost everyone, it seems, wants to destroy mrs may's brexit checkers plan. if they succeed does that mean
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she goes too? potentially, one thing to note is lots of people want to destroy it but for various reasons. the things slightly working in the prime minister's favour is they are not unified in their criticism so some brexiters don't like it because it's too soft and think it is too close to europe and others don't like it because they think it's too far away, they think one i have a separate referendum and why not stay in the eu place? while the critics are divided around her the chance of her clinging on a bit longer is fairly strong. do you think mrs may can hang on until brexit is complete? it's like the three stooges trying to get through the door at the same time and nobody can and that's what it's like that these people opposed to the brexit plan. borisjohnson wants people opposed to the brexit plan. boris johnson wants a high brexit, nick boles wants a soft brexit. he isa nick boles wants a soft brexit. he is a conservative backbencher who you would expect to support mrs may and her plan. the idea was to get some of the remainers behind it and it seemed that anna soubry was opposed to brexit and have supported it but that seems to be falling away
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now. the fact they are so split and there is no unified plan they could all get behind this is the worst of all get behind this is the worst of all worlds but they can't agree on the alternatives. do you think mrs may is going to be challenged for the leadership over the next few months? i think it could happen. things are sophie brown at the moment, no 10's nick hope was everybody would come down over the summer but that hasn't happened, i think they are more divided than before she went on her walking holiday and we are hearing that borisjohnson holiday and we are hearing that boris johnson might be holiday and we are hearing that borisjohnson might be planning to join the campaign for a troop brexit around the time of the tory conference. i think that's a massive danger point for the prime minister because that's when she will come face—to—face with the tory grassroots activists who don't like the checkers plan and she will have rival brexiteers putting forward a different plan. if the alternative plan different plan. if the alternative pla n starts different plan. if the alternative plan starts to get traction she could be in trouble. not all
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conservative mps like borisjohnson, nor do they want him to beat mrs may's successor and it has to go mps first before any vote over who the next leader should be boosted the conservative grassroots. is he waiting in the wings? is he going to be the next person after mrs may to lead the conservative because boris is known for being the grand old duke of york, marching them up the hill and then down again, pulled out of the leadership election in 2016. i'm not sure he has enough support from enough mps to do this. we know that nigel farage is going to go back out on the road and start firing people up. if conservative mps in their constituencies start feeling like the mood has changed against checkers and people don't wa nt against checkers and people don't want this, and all of a sudden they think my seat is at risk they might start thinking it is better off with boris. that is a little bit of this three—dimensional game of chess need to consider. labour is split over brexit and anti—semitism. do you think that if labor's governing body
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except the full internationally recognised definition and all of the exa m ples recognised definition and all of the examples that will calm the row over anti—semitism? examples that will calm the row over anti-semitism? i don't think it will solve it but it will bring an easy piece and keep things from reaching boiling point. it will buy the labour party sometime. has been talk ofa labour party sometime. has been talk of a split, the idea people might branch off and the idea is that that won't happen immediately if they do that. they have the labour party conference, and there could be ugly scenes. wardy mean? loss of feuding between the two sides and lots of moderates will wonder whether they have a place in the party, something they have wondered for a while. -- what do you mean? what are they waiting for? we have heard threats or some of labour mps resigning, the party whip, wanting to sit as independents, like frank field, the only one to have done it on political reasons. i know what you
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mean. what they are waiting for is history to change because this has happened before but never worked out. bigging of the sdp split in the 19805, that didn't deliver a centre—left government which they wished for. a lot of people want to bea wished for. a lot of people want to be a manual —— emmanuel macron, the french president who came up as a centrist everybody loves. they've got to manage a few egos. 0n the anti—semitism row it puts the moderates in a difficult position because if labour accept the full definition and they still feel uncomfortable some of the corbyn supporters will say, we have done what you said and you are still uncomfortable. you are clearly using this as a political football. that's the argument they all face. on brexit, how likely do you think it is the leadership will adopt officially plans for a second referendum? a referendum on whatever deal mrs may comes back from
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brussels with. it is unlikely they will go that bold. there is a chance they will be forced into some kind of fudge on this, some kind of compromise meaning that a second vote is compatible with the labour brexit position but not what they are aiming for because we know the labour membership are very pro—eu and what's interesting speaking to labour mps is what they think they have on their side, the pro—eu camp is the momentum supporters are quite pro—eu and that's corbyn's grassroots movement and they think they have them onside at conference. thank you both for coming in. coming up. doctors spend their lives looking after us, but is there enough care for them? we'll hear a claim that the mental health of doctors is now at tipping point. if you found out your child had cancer — you probably wouldn t even think about getting them to and from the hospital and the costs of that. but the uk's leading charity for young people with cancer says it's a huge problem for families and can leave many in debt.
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0ne charity says new research shows children with cancer have to travel twice as far and spend twice as much, to get to life—saving treatment as adults with the same disease. the average family faces a 60—mile trip and spends £180 a month. kate lee is the chief executive of the charity clic sargent. that's a charity that helps support young people who have cancer and also provides care and information to their families. abigail smith is a clinical nurse specialist at great 0rmond street children's hospital. and speaking to us from plymouth is nicky brown and her 10—year—old son 0liver. 0liver has a rare type of blood cancer. i'm grateful that you are joining i'm grateful that you arejoining us now, nicky and oliver, particularly as it is from your hospital bed, 0liver, which i didn't realise so i really a m 0liver, which i didn't realise so i really am grateful. how are you doing? good. i have got it on the la ptop doing? good. i have got it on the laptop and we have the tv on
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watching it so it's like dual screen. thank you so much for talking to us. i want to ask you first of all, nicky, why when you live in plymouth you have to make a trip that's over 100 miles for treatment in bristol? we are in bristol children's hospital. 0liver hasjust had his second stem cell transplant. he is still receiving treatment. we travel to bristol because this is were on the expertise is. this is a specialist centre caring for children with cancer. and in particular with 0liver's type of blood cancer which is minor display the. how is it for you, oliver, to make the journey to get that special treatment? i normally stay here most of the time, so it's, kind of, 0k. but my mum and dad are travelling all the time, so... what is right
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for you, all the time, so... what is right foryou, nikki, and all the time, so... what is right for you, nikki, and your partner? we find that it is 120 miles from plymouth to bristol. we get used the journey. you start to see regular sites, service stations are good markers. 0na sites, service stations are good markers. on a good day it can take us markers. on a good day it can take us to but over the holidays with the traffic it has taken over four hours in some instances. —— on a good day it takes two ours. we are just desperate to get back to 0liver, see how he is doing, just support him. you are being very pragmatic about it. i must say. iwill you are being very pragmatic about it. i must say. i will be back with you ina it. i must say. i will be back with you in a moment. that turned our guest in the studio. why is this an acceptable? because of the cost of that distance of travel. we believe youngsters like 0liver should be treated where they will get the best possible outcomes and best chance of surviving their cancer. but the cost
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of those miles, 120 miles before nicky and her partner, they have to pay for the travelling costs. we think that is unreasonable, £180, on average, per month. it can be unbearable for some families and they end up in terrible debt. and it is pertinent to children with cancer, rather than adults, why? because children have to be treated in one of19 because children have to be treated in one of 19 places in the uk. like bristol, where they will get the best outcome for their health. that travel is essential. but it is twice as far as travel is essential. but it is twice as faras an travel is essential. but it is twice as far as an adult needs to travel to be treated with a similar disease. parents are often giving up work at the same time to support that. money is tight in families. so it is that balance, which is ridiculously expensive. great ormond street hospital is one of those places. people might want their children to be treated there, but potentially it is miles away from
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where they live. absolutely. we have local centres where they can get some of their treatment. but the specialised treatment has come from great 0rmond street or the other principal treatment centres around the country. so we have to ask them to come to us for a certain period of time. that means that they need to get transport, on public transport, or taxis, and that can be really expensive. it's notjust the financial cost, it's the physical cost, as well. travelling takes it out of you. it does. we often ask for patients to be at our centres at 8am. that is rush—hour traffic. you have other siblings at home, it splits the family up. lots of costs. emotional, physical, and financial costs. who should pay? we believe the government should support families. we don't think they will ever be able to cover the full cost
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of this. travel is just one of many additional costs. we want the government to set up a travelling fund that families with children with cancer can access to fund the cost of their life—saving treatment. how much would that help you, nicky, if that were the case? massively. we are using savings to cover the cost of travel. 0n are using savings to cover the cost of travel. on average we are spending £70 per week. we are paying more than the average family. but we are also very fortunate that we have some savings we are able to use towards that cost. oliver, how much would it help if the government helped your mum and dad paid for the travel to get you treatment in bristol? i think it would be a massive help. it also takes the stress and worry out of it. when you already have so much going on. your emotional well—being, already have so much going on. your emotional well— being, to be already have so much going on. your emotional well—being, to be able to support your child, at such a
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crucial time, to have that added layer of stress removed would make such a massive difference. and how are your spirits, 0liver? such a massive difference. and how are yourspirits, 0liver? how such a massive difference. and how are your spirits, 0liver? how would you say you are getting on? ok at the moment, i think. you say you are getting on? ok at the moment, ithink. he is you say you are getting on? ok at the moment, i think. he is a cheeky monkey. he likes playing pranks on the nurses on a regular basis. he keeps everybody entertained. what jokes to you play on the nurses, 0liver? jokes to you play on the nurses, oliver? anything i can get my hands on, really. chuckles i was going to the 0liver likes to pretend he is asleep, then wake up and shocked them, so that they scream in horror. really good to talk to you. thank you so much, 0liver, for talking to us from hospital. and your time, nicky, and we shall see what happens with this campaign. thank you both. a department of health and social care spokesperson said: "we know it is incredibly difficult for some families and their children when they have to travel for care, but often this is to ensure they receive the best
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possible treatment. last year through our nhs low income scheme we helped over 337,000 applicants on a low income to pay for health costs, including the cost of travelling to receive nhs treatment. the partner of celebrity big brother contestant ryan thomas has exclusively told this programme that the woman who accused him of "punching her agressively" should apologise. reality star lucy mecklenburg says she believes the channel five tv show fuelled the problem by not stepping in sooner when roxanne pallett claimed he had aggressively punched her in the ribs multiple times. ryan thomas argued there was no "malice in what happened — and the contestants were not told that the footage didn't seem to support roxanne pallet‘s claims. there have been more than 11,000 complaints to 0fcom. here is how the
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moment played out. i've got a little towel that i'm going to use. 0h! woman beater! what? that expletive hurt. did it? sorry. yeah, we are being watched, so ryan punched me. what? it wasn't play fighting, he punched me repeatedly in my ribs there... and i didn't say anything, but i was in so much pain all night, it was intentional to hurt. he went for it. he did it with his fists. and it was so sore, and so aggressive, and i walked off, and for the next hour i was, like, in a blur of, like, confusion. are you all right? no, i'm not. you see me, they know i'm not a bad person, they know i'm not, you know, causing anyone any harm in here at all. when they pick up on something that's nothing, then turn it into something massive. yeah, well that's... i'm soft, like, i don't ever mean any harm to anyone, do you know what i mean? no, well that's it, it's like me.
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but... i'm not a quitter, though, definitely not a quitter, that's one thing i'm not. former emmerdale actor roxanne pallett left the house on friday night and has deleted her social media accounts after reportedly receiving death threats. a spokesperson for channel 5 says they "consta ntly monitor" contestants and "intervene when necessary". we can talk now in her first tv or radio interview since all this happened to ryan thomas's girlfriend — lucy mecklenburg ? she has appeared on several reality tv programmes including the only way is essex. also, duty of care psychologist — j0 hemmings ? she assesses the mental health of?reality tv? contestants and has previously worked on big brother. alsojoining us is penny bennett who is from the charity wish, which supports women's mental health. roxanne pallett declined to take part in the discussion or to provide us with a statement. thank you for coming on the
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programme. lucy, what do you think of what you've seen? 0ver over the last few nights. it's been really ha rd to over the last few nights. it's been really hard to watch. for me, ryan's family and friends, we know him, he is so lovable, he wouldn't hurt anybody. it's been really hard. maybe because we know the truth. nothing happened. but for him to go through, thinking everybody on the outside might think he is a woman beater, and watching him break down, i think it was saturday night, wash macro i haven't slept much, as you can tell, it's been really hard. and stressful for his family? his mum and his brothers who he is very close to are in bits. he has a daughter. she hasn't seen it. we don't want people saying things like this and her hearing it. it's been a really tough few days. is this damaging for ryan? it could have been. if there had not been a camera, it would have been damaging if it had been somewhere where there
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wasn't a camera, like in the toilet. 0r wasn't a camera, like in the toilet. or if it had happened outside the big brother house. i know this thing can happen. but it has had the reverse effect and everybody is on his side and supporting him. should roxanne apologise? yes, yes she should. i think she needs to publicly apologise to ryan and really m ea n publicly apologise to ryan and really mean it. i think she needs to get some help. what would she be apologising for? i think... defamation of character. what she tried to do. it was a complete lie. she play fights with then every single day. punching each other, laughing, everybody does it in the house. i'm not even sure his hand touched her. she escalated it. i think big brotherfuelled it by letting her have her own bedroom for the night. but it was like a story.
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every time she told it it got more elaborate. he is assaulting me, punching me more in the ribs, every time. we don't know because she hasn't spoken. that is how it may have felt to her. women's aid says play fighting might not seem serious, but if you have been in an abusive relationship, and roxanne says she has been, it can be frightening and can even trigger memories of the domestic abuse. roxanne clearly did not feel co nsta ble roxanne clearly did not feel constable going to sleep in the same room as someone who had physically hurt her, even if that wasn't his intention. —— did not feel co mforta ble. intention. —— did not feel comfortable. i think we can all see that she did not get hurt by him. and she play fight every day. it is interesting that she reached out to the men in the house and not the women. ifind that the men in the house and not the women. i find that peculiar behaviour. do you have any sympathy?
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yes, because i —— i know what she has faced since coming out of the house. it is a nice. but i want her to apologise, and mean it, and hopefully she can come back from this, but it would be very nice what she comes out to —— but it will not be very nice watch comes out too. we reached out to her, she did not reply. but a spokesperson said that she decided to leave the big brother house after thinking about things for two days. she has now been reunited with her fiance and family. before those social media accounts we re before those social media accounts were deleted, what you say to the people who reportedly issued death threats? i obviously do not agree with that. people saying nasty things on social media. i can
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understand why somebody deleted her accou nts understand why somebody deleted her accounts because nobody would want them to see that. i don't think that should happen. 0ne them to see that. i don't think that should happen. one needs to happen now, draw a line under it, get big brother to revoke his warning, and get her to make an apology. why is it important channel five revoke the warning? because in the past they have been for serious things people have been for serious things people have done. he didn't do anything. all of us can see that. i think that is why there are so many things on social media, so many people are angry, and so many 0fcom complaints, because everyone can see that nothing happened. you are a duty of ca re nothing happened. you are a duty of care consultant, jo, you have previously worked on big brother, what is your view on this? my view is that it should not even have happened. it's distressing. a good
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psychological assessment evaluation will look out for personality traits that may cause conflict. that may trigger past experiences. duty of ca re trigger past experiences. duty of care support means you are there on hand to support somebody going through the process, but the good evaluations, the good assessments, they are there to make sure somebody is robust enough and has sufficient coping mechanisms to deal with being in that house. and looking at roxanne's past, the way she has behaved in there, she might have been somebody who may have been better off not going into the house in the first instance. but that's not the first time somebody would have said that about a big brother co ntesta nt. have said that about a big brother contestant. you can do the assessment but the tv production company makes the ultimate decision. that's right. there are some companies i would not work for any more. some of my assessments have been turned on their head. where i have told them about markers showing they should not go into the house, they should not go into the house, they will balance entertainment with it. you don't want 12 boring people
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in there sipping tea with no conflict, it doesn't make entertaining tv. but that is the balance i have to make all the time. some production companies are marvellous, brilliant, very supportive. 0thers come a little less concerned. how much sympathy do you have for ryan thomas? huge amounts. —— others, are less concerned. seeing his distress in that house. it is difficult enough being in the big brother house without somebody making your experience that much worse. i felt, again, it was not handled as well as it could have been, at least as a viewer, to alleviate some of his distressed and stop channel five says that it actively reflect what happens in the house so viewers can make their judgments. we offer support to the housemates and we intervene whenever necessary.
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their well—being is of paramount importance. did you buy that?|j think importance. did you buy that?” think he was in too much distress for too long. i understand they have to let stories unravel naturally, but they did have the proof. they didn't do anything with it. they let brian for a few days be in distress. —— ryan. brian for a few days be in distress. -- ryan. have they let him down? i think so. have they let roxanne pallet down? i think so maybe. maybe they should have sat her down with someone. thank you both. we are hoping to speak to penny bennett from the charity wish but we've had some technical problems and hopefully we will talk to her in the second half of the programme. coming up second half of the programme. coming up in the next hour, we will speak to the head of child safety online at the nspcc as the home secretary warns there are up to 80,000
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paedophiles in britain who pose a threat to children online. news and sport on the way, first, the latest weather. good morning, it's going to feel a bit more like autumn through this week but we saw 26 degrees yesterday and today we will steal season warmth particularly across the east of in and. sunshine across east anglia, lincolnshire, southeast midlands, south east england and channel islands, sunny day for western scotland and northern ireland with sunny into the afternoon but cooler competitive yesterday. in between those two zones, east of scotland through parts of northern england, the west midlands and wales, the weather front will bring clouds and outbreaks of rain. there will be dry spells but the rain will be on the heavy side at times. into tonight we have that weather front starting to fizzle out, a patchy, light rain and drizzle, keeping temperatures in double figures but in the south—east temperatures will drop away relative
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to last night and a rather chilly night in north and west scotland and northern ireland, temperatures down to two or three degrees in the countryside. 0n to two or three degrees in the countryside. on tuesday and wednesday, dry weather, cloud, some sunshine but increasing showers through the second half of the week and temperatures are set to drop. bye for now. hello it's monday, it's10am, i'm victoria derbyshire. welcome to our programme. doctors are facing a mental health crisis like never before, with the problem at tipping point, according to england's most senior medical professional in the field. i think the last taboo in the nhs is the acknowledgement that doctors also have mental health problems, that doctors themselves are not immune to all the pressures that piled onto them. we hearfrom the mum of one doctor who took her own life last year, and we'll discuss this apparent crisis after half past ten in an exclusive interview the reality tv star lucy mecklenburgh has hit out at her boyfriend ryan thomas' treatment on celebrity big brother,
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after another contestant — roxanne pallett — accused him of ‘punching her agressively‘. lucy mecklenburgh has told this programme exclusively that roxanne pallet should publicly apologise. yes, she should. i think she needs to apologise publicly to ryan and really mean it, and i do think she needs to get some help. after 13 years chris evans is stepping down from his radio two brea kfast stepping down from his radio two breakfast show. here's the moment he announced he's moving on, live on air. i'm going to leave radio 2, i'm leaving radio 2. since i decided this, which has been a conversation i've been having with my nearest and dearest for, like, a year. i first discussed it professionally last year. who could step into chris evans's shoes on britain's most successful
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brea kfast shoes on britain's most successful breakfast show? let me know your own suggestions. good morning. here'sjoanna is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the days news. up to 80,000 paedophiles in the uk pose a sexual threat to children online — according to the home secretary sajid javid. in a speech this morning he says he's shocked at the scale of child sex abuse and has vowed to make it his personal mission to tackle it. new figures show a 700% rise in the number of child abuse images referred to the national crime agency in the last five years. borisjohnson has attacked the prime minister's brexit strategy — describing it as a fix, and claiming that the uk will get what he calls "two thirds of diddly squat" from the negotiations. he's also accused some members of the government of using the irish border issue to stop what he described as a "proper brexit". in the last few minutes, it's been revealed that the governor of the bank of england, mark carney, is in discussions with the treasury and the bank about extending his time in the job
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beyond june next year. however, no deal has yet been agreed — and it's reported that any extension to his contract might be for less than a year. a fire has destroyed a large section of the landmark former littlewoods pools building in liverpool. the blaze broke outjust before 8am last night, and it took 50 firefighters several hours to bring it under control. the five—storey art deco structure had been empty for the last 15 years but part of the building was due to be turned into a film and tv production site. two journalists from the reuters news agency have been sentenced to seven years in prison in myanmarfor breaking the country's 0fficial secrets act. ajudge has ruled that wa lone and kyaw soe 0o had actively sought secret documents while investigating alleged crimes committed by the burmese military against rohingya muslims. the journalists said they were framed by police because of their reports about the killing of rohingya muslims. the left—wing group, momentum, which supports jeremy corbyn, is calling for "open selection" of labour's parliamentary candidates.
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it's backing moves by some constituency parties to make it simpler for sitting mps to be challenged. centrist mps fear the idea is aimed at purging them from the party. in herfirst interview, the reality tv star lucy mecklenburgh has hit out at her boyfriend ryan thomas' treatment on celebrity big brother, after another contestant — roxanne pallett — accused him of punching her agressively. she's told this programme exclusively that roxanne should apologise. showed roxanne pallet apologise? yes, she should. i think she needs to apologise publicly to ryan and really mean it, and i do think she needs to get some help. a golfer with a prosthetic leg is suing a local council because he claims he was stopped from playing on a golf course using a buggy. paul houghton's right leg was amputated in 2000 after he was affected by a lethal tissue—eating bacteria. he says he was told he would not be allowed to play
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at hartswood golf course in essex, unless he provided a doctor's letter confirming he needed one. he is suing brentwood council, which owns and runs the course, for discrimination. the council denies any discrimination and is defending the legal action. chris evans has announced he will be leaving bbc radio 2 after 13 years at the station. in the last few minutes, it's been announced he'll be returning to virgin radio. the broadcaster took over sir terry wogan's breakfast show in 2010, and regularly attracts 9 million listeners — more than any other breakfast show in the uk. chris evans made the announcement this morning telling listeners he'd stay on air until christmas. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10:30am. i will miss chris evans on the radio two breakfast show. thank you for your messages about celebrity big brother and the interview with lucy mecklenburgh, the partner of ryan thomas, who is in the middle of those physical abuse claims made by a former celebrity big brother
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co ntesta nt roxa nne a former celebrity big brother contestant roxanne pallet. this one says he has my full support, big brother are handling this so badly. u nless brother are handling this so badly. unless roxanne pallet is prepared to make a public apology to ryan thomas and the other housemates she shouldn't be given any airtime on this matter. and another text, ryan has been a gentleman, the victim of a terrible accusation and big brother should have shown the footage to the housemates immediately. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use #victorialive. if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you ? and maybe want to take part in the programme — please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you'll be charged at the standard network rate. let's get some sport now. good morning again. a very good weekend for england's cricketers. "my best victory," that's how captainjoe root described england's win against india in the fourth test at southampton. his side wrap up the series
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with a test to spare. moeen ali continued his good form a wicket that suited the spinners. he took four wickets including that of india captain virat kohli. the winning moment though was one to savour for 20—year—old sam curran who took the wicket that sealed a 60—run victory. india will be left ruing missed chances but it's a great series win for england captainjoe root and his side over the world's number one test side. credit to india, they've played some really fine cricket throughout, not just this game, but the whole series. you look across it, it must have been great viewing for people at home to see, the way that especially the first two games went. sorry, the first game and this one, how tight they've been and how it swung both ways. i think it's a really good sign for test cricket. three teams still have their 100% record after the weekend's football
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in the premier league, liverpool, chelsea, and watford. the first time they've won theirfirst four games in the top flight, and their first win over spurs in more than 30 years. it finished 2—1, craig cathcart with the winner much to the delight of the rocket man himself, watford's honorary life president eltonjohn. so many puns, so little time. watford still standing at the top of the league. you know things aren't going perfectly when there's a plane and a banner. this is how manchester united's day started at burnley. but a 2—0 win for united eased the pressure onjose mourinho and executive vice—chairman ed woodward. but it wasn't all plain sailing — marcus rashford was sent off in the second half for leaning into burnley defender phil bardsley with his head. arsenal won too, beating cardiff 3—2. i would say a kid and a very experienced man. ba rdsley i would say a kid and a very experienced man. bardsley is in the game for 20 years and marcus is still a naive boy. celtic won the first old firm of the season 0livier ntcham finished off a lovely
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sweeping move for the home side. it was a first defeat for rangers manager steven gerrard since he took over the club this summer. lewis hamilton's lead at the top of the formula one championship is now 30 points after he won the italian grand prix. he started from third, but overtook both ferraris in the race — including title rival sebastian vettel on the first lap. it's hamilton's sixth win of the season — seven races, and a maximum of 175 points remaining this season. and cristiano ronaldo scored four goals forjuventus over the weekend. but not that one. this is cristiano ronaldo jr making his debut for the under—9s atjuve. hejoined the academy at the same time his dad joined the italian club. he wears the number seven too. four goals on his debut, those are some very talented genes. i'm sure everyone will keep an eye on his career as it progresses. that's all the sport for now. thank you very much. in a speech in an hour's time the home secretary will warn there are up to 80,000 paedophiles
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in the uk who pose a sexual threat to children online. there's been a staggering 700% increase in child abuse images being referred to the national crime agency in the last five years. we can speak now to tony stower, who is head of child safety 0nline at the nspcc. he's here with me in the studio. and chief constable simon bailey, the national police chiefs' council lead on child protection. he joins us from norfolk. thank you forjoining us. simon bailey, could it be more than 80,000? i think that our analysis shows that it is 80,000 but the numbers are so significant that it could be higher. what we do know is the approach we have taken across law enforcement in the uk over the last few years is the most robust anywhere in the world, we arrest on average 400 offenders every month, just reviewing indecent imagery, we are safeguarding 500 plus children
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every month and we have really been very robust in our response to the threat that the problem is the numbersjust threat that the problem is the numbers just keep growing, the threats keep changing, so the greatest threat to children from our perspective is around grooming and the online streaming of abuse, which is why it is so important that we go to the root of the cause and because, from my perspective, is very much around the technology companies, the facilities they provide and that they have a social and moral responsibility to make sure children can go online safely, that people can't upload indecent images of children and can't share them. the technology exists. if we are able to do that, that would give law enforcement, the national crime agency and the national police chiefs cancel the opportunity to target those offenders who are using very sophisticated levels of encryption, philosophers to getting their approach to abuse because at
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their approach to abuse because at the moment we are absorbed with the amount we have to deal with. is it the responsibility of the social media corporations to remove pictures of child sexual abuse? absolutely and i've been saying this for well over two years. they have to live up to what i believe is their social and moral responsibility. basically cannot turn around and say we are providing a service. the statistics speak volumes. in the 1990s the home 0ffice took dummett undertook a study to understand how many indecent images of children were in circulation, there were fewer than 10000 and we now have 10 million images on our database, facilitated through the use of technology and technology alone. how do you react to these figures? they are astonishing and alarming. but they are not inevitable. we can
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ta ke but they are not inevitable. we can take action and stop this. simon was talking about some of the action social media companies can take. it is crucial they all step up to the mark on this. but there is also a role for government. companies won't do this on the run, they will not do it until they are forced. you need the government to set up a regulatory system to force them to do it? —— on their own. regulatory system to force them to do it? -- on their own. we have had self—regulation. it hasn't worked. we had initiative after initiative where they have promised much and not delivered. there were some bright spots. but across the networks there isn't any consistency for children and the level of protection they can expect. that means children are at risk every time they go online. in the last year over 3000 sexual messages have been sent by adults to children just in england and wales. we know that probably about one child in every single classroom has been sent a naked image by an adult. it's not acce pt naked image by an adult. it's not accept the ball. social media companies need to do more. the
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government needs to step in and force them if they are not willing to do it themselves. the government says last year they announced £600,000 in arachnid. it identifies websites with suspected abuse content. they also set up a watchdog that has had significant success in reducing material hosted in the uk, but you say that's not enough. that's fantastic work and we work closely with the home office to take action on this kind of material. but we need to step in before it gets that serious. to make sure children can use websites safely to make sure they are not being groomed into sending these kinds of images in the first place. simon bailey, can you explain to us how a youngster can be groomed and exploited online and on social media? there are many different ways. ranging from... i'm
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using my language carefully, where they are asked to lift up a skirt or top, write to the point where an aduu top, write to the point where an adult grooming a child will arrange to meet them and then rate them —— rape them. children are using live streaming apps. you can imagine a child come up in their bedroom, after school, they put on periscope, talk about what they've been doing, what they are doing that evening. for would—be groomers that is an opportunity to gain a chance of trust and confidence. all of a sudden they are providing them with indecent imagery. they are potentially being blackmailed. and in some instances we've seen some children and their lives because of the abuse. my colleague at the nspcc is right, some progress has been made, but it is surely the
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responsibility of the social media companies, the people providing these platforms and networks, to turn around and say we are going to make this safe for children to use. we are going to prevent images from being uploaded, prevent images from being uploaded, prevent images from being shared. from my perspective a good yearfor being shared. from my perspective a good year for the internet watch foundation, who do fabulous work, is that they cannot find any images just because they have been eradicated. we need to start having a different conversation. and ultimately that conversation has two b with those people who provide the service and allow the abuse to be perpetrated. —— has to be. service and allow the abuse to be perpetrated. -- has to be. some of the people you have arrested is a police officer and five schoolteachers. does that take you back? i've been doing this too long to be taken aback. —— does that take you back? it'll be doctors, police officers, social workers. it cuts
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right across the social spectrum. nothing surprises me any more. what ifind it nothing surprises me any more. what i find it disappointing nothing surprises me any more. what ifind it disappointing is nothing surprises me any more. what i find it disappointing is the fact that the companies that provide the services permit this to take place. and they shouldn't be allowing it to ta ke and they shouldn't be allowing it to take place. are you the same, tony, you are not surprised any more when you are not surprised any more when you hear a former police officer has been arrested, or teachers arrested in connection with these kinds of things? we hear from children who have experienced abuse from all sorts of settings. it is particularly egregious when it happens by an adult in a position of trust. but we know this can happen to any child anywhere in the country. if you ever worried about a child or you are a child in need of support, you can contact us and we will help. thank you both for your time on the programme today. we appreciate it. roxanne
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pallett. roxanne pallett has apologised for saying that ryan thomas punched her repeatedly. the partner of celebrity big brother contestant ryan thomas show has exclusively told this programme that the woman who accused him of ‘punching her agressively‘ should apologise. we spoke to reality star lucy mecklenburg in the last hour and she said she believed the channel five tv show "fuelled the problem" by not stepping in sooner when roxanne pallett claimed he had "aggressively" punched her in the ribs. lucy also told us how it felt for ryan's friends and family watching the incident from outside of the house. we know him very well. we know he is such a lovable guy. he wouldn't hurt a fly. it's just been really hard. mainly because we all know the truth. nothing happened.
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but for him to go through, thinking everybody on the outside might think he is a woman beater, and watching him break down, i think it was saturday night, oh, i haven't slept much, as you can tell, it's been really hard. and stressful for his family? his mum and his brothers who he is very close to are in bits. he has a daughter. she hasn't seen it. but we don't want people saying things like this and her hearing it. it's been a really tough few days. is this damaging for ryan? i think it could have been. if there had not been a camera, it would have been damaging if it had been somewhere where there wasn't a camera, like in the toilet. or if it had happened outside the big brother house. i know this does happen to people. but it has had the reverse effect and everybody is on his side and supporting him. should roxanne pallett apologise? yes, yes, she should. i think she needs to publicly apologise to ryan and really mean it. i think she needs to get some help.
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what would she be apologising for? ithink... defamation of character. what she tried to do. it was a complete lie. she play fights with ben every single day. punching each other, laughing, everybody does it in the house. i'm not even sure his hand touched her. she escalated it. i think big brother fuelled it by letting her have her own bedroom for the night. giving him a warning. but it was like a story. every time she told it it got more elaborate. he is assaulting me, punching me more in the ribs, every time. joining me now is penny bennett who is from the charity wish, which supports women's mental health. thank you for talking to us. roxanne
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pallett has now apologised. she apologises not just a pallett has now apologised. she apologises notjust a ryan but everybody in the house. how do you react to that? i think it's good she did that. probably people should think about what she may have experienced. for some reason this might have triggered something that happened to higher in the past. she has talked in a previous interview about being in a relationship that was physically abusive. what she said today is, i felt like my mind ran away with me, i'm a sensitive person, everything in that house becomes heightened, a look, a comment, everything you are sensitive to is heightened. in the moment it felt worse than it was. i cannot explain a feeling.” moment it felt worse than it was. i cannot explain a feeling. i could understand that. people who had a difficult relationship in the past, an abusive relationship, sometimes something gets left in your body.
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something might trigger that, you know, and it could come flooding back. and it's more of an emotional thing. possibly it's difficult in that moment to think about what's really happened. because you are experiencing what you did before. so, the way she reacted could be an indication of someone who has experienced domestic abuse in the past? yes. what do you think about those people who say the way she reacted actually undermines domestic abuse victims? it's difficult, isn't it? it's possible that people might see it like that. it's all different sorts of domestic abuse, ranging from extreme violence through to financial abuse. i don't think you canjust financial abuse. i don't think you can just say domestic abuse is
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beating up your partner, it might be really different things. —— extreme violence through to emotional abuse. we appreciate your time, penny. thank you for all of your comments about mental health in the medical profession. this text says, i'm a junior doctor working in the north—west of england, the lack of support for doctors with problems, professional or emotional, is shocking. it pushes doctors in to break burn—out and the blame culture and the potential implications on their future career. this stops junior doctors from speaking out. i'm grateful to nhs gp services that helped me recover and get back to work. another e—mail, i've been a doctorfor 14 work. another e—mail, i've been a doctor for 14 years and a gp for two yea rs. doctor for 14 years and a gp for two years. ijust doctor for 14 years and a gp for two years. i just watched doctor for 14 years and a gp for two years. ijust watched your piece about mental health and doctors and was saddened to see that these
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deaths could not have been prevented. however, as doctors, we are probably the best people at hiding ourfeelings. are probably the best people at hiding our feelings. ian are probably the best people at hiding ourfeelings. ian on twitter says, from our children to our doctors, royalty and reality tv stars, and hundreds of ordinary men and women that never become headline news, when will we see the change we need to transform and save lives? doctor shipley on twitter says, my own experience is that you are basically ostracised by colleagues if you are a doctor with a mental health problem. if it hadn't been for the practitioner health programme i would have had nobody. we are going to talk more about our exclusive story in the next half hour of the programme. i really welcome more of your pertinent experiences which i can feed into the programme. still to come. we'll be speaking to paul howton, who, after having his leg amputated, is taking an essex golf course to court after they told him he did not need a buggy and was not allowed to bring his own. and chris evans is leaving
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radio two and the bbc — we talk to the person who gave him his firstjob. —— and chris evans is leaving radio two and the bbc — we talk to the person who gave him his firstjob in radio. time for the latest news — here'sjoanna the bbc news headlines this morning. up to 80,000 paedophiles in the uk pose a sexual threat to children online — according to the home secretary sajid javid. in about half an hour's time, he'll say in a speech that he's shocked at the scale of child sex abuse and will promise to make it his personal mission to tackle it. new figures show a 700% rise in the number of child abuse images referred to the national crime agency in the last five years. speaking on this programme, chief constable simon bailey, the national police chiefs' council lead on child protection, said the number of paedophiles online could be even higher. our analysis shows that it is 80,000 but the numbers are so significant that it could be higher. what we do know is that the approach we have taken across
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law enforcement in the uk over the last three years is the most robust of anywhere in the world. we are arresting, on average, 400 offenders every month, just reviewing indecent imagery, we are safeguarding 500 plus children every month, and we have really been very robust in our response to the threat that the problem is the numbers —— in our response to the threat but the problem is the numbers just keep growing. borisjohnson has attacked the prime minister's brexit strategy — describing it as a fix, and claiming that the uk will get what he calls "two thirds of diddly squat" from the negotiations. he's also accused some members of the government of using the irish border issue to stop what he described as a "proper brexit". it's been revealed that the governor of the bank of england, mark carney, is in discussions with the treasury and the bank about extending his time in the job beyond june next year. however, no deal has yet been agreed — and it's reported that any extension to his contract might be for less than a year.
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a fire has destroyed a large section of the landmark former littlewoods pools building in liverpool. the blaze broke outjust before 8pm last night, and it took 50 firefighters several hours to bring it under control. the five—storey art deco structure had been empty for the last 15 years but part of the building was due to be turned into a film and tv production site. chris evans has announced he will be leaving bbc radio 2 after 13 years at the station to return to virgin radio. the broadcaster took over sir terry wogan's breakfast show in 2010, and regularly attracts 9m listeners — more than any other breakfast show in the uk. chris evans made the announcement this morning telling listeners he'd stay on air until christmas. the celebrity big brother contestant roxanne pallett has apologised to fellow housemate ryan thomas for accusing him of deliberately punching her. she made the apology this morning on jeremy vine's bbc radio 2 show.
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she said in the heat of the moment, herjudgment had become clouded. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. here's some sport now with hugh. hello, again, victoria. "my best victory." that's how captain joe root described england's win against india in the fourth test at southampton. it's given them an unassailable 3—1 lead and a series win over the world's top test team. watford continue their winning streak in the top flight — much to the delight of the rocket man himself, watford's honorary life president eltonjohn — they beat spurs by 2—1 at vicarage road. there was a 2—0 win at burnley in the premier league, but it wasn't all plain sailing for manchester united — marcus rashford has apologised after being sent off in the second half. and serena williams is through to the quarter—finals at the us open after being taken the distance by kaia kanepi — amazingly williams took the first set injust 18 minutes.
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that's all the sport for now. i will have more for you in newsroom live after 11am. thank you very much. the most senior doctor looking after the mental health of england's doctors has exclusively told this programme that the situation is at "tipping point" — and she's gravely concerned about the number of suicides within the profession. dr clare gerada says discussions around mental health among the profession are the last taboo. she's the medical director of the nhs practitioner health programme — the only confidential service that offers doctors a full range of assessment, treatment and case management for all mental health problems, and wants to end the postcode lottery of where doctors can access specialist help. we brought you chris hemmings' full film earlier — he spoke to the mother of doctor who took her own life. here's a short extract before we have a conversation about this. there's about 240,000 doctors working in the nhs and we rely on many of them to treat our mental health issues, but is enough being done to help them with theirs? dr laurel spooner‘s daughter, sophie, had been diagnosed with bipolar while at medical school.
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in october last year, her depression returned, despite her already recovering from it in march. and atjust 26 years old she took her own life after working half a shift on a paediatrics ward. she came back from holiday, went into work, did a morning clinic in which nobody noticed that anything was wrong, and at 12 o'clock she took all the pills she had and was found the next morning by her sister. so when she finally couldn't go on, it was behind this front that had been so good, that even in the clinic that morning, nobody had noticed. sophie had tried to access the nhs practitioner health programme. it's the only confidential service that offers doctors a full range of assessment, treatment and case management for all mental health problems. in text messages to her mum, she was delighted when she was told about the php, but vented her anger at the fact, in london, any kind of doctor can self refer to them,
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but in the rest of england, only gps can access a gp specific service. so because sophie lived in brighton, she could only use the php with the approval of her employer, meaning it could no longer be confidential. she was on the way to help, and just the right sort of help that i would have wanted her to have. given that she had always got better so quickly before, i think if she could have seen somebody three and a half weeks before she died and had the right medication, yes, i expect she would be here. clare gerada is the medical director of the php. she says we are at a tipping point when it comes to the mental health of doctors and says that confidentiality is key in allowing doctors to seek help. she now wants her service to be offered to every doctor across the country. you don't want to go and tell somebody you work with that you may be drinking too much or you have suicidal thoughts, and what tends to happen is doctors do nothing and suffer in silence right to the bitter end. and doctors looking after doctors aren't good at
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looking after their own kind. they tend to be embarrassed. they treat the sick doctor not as the vulnerable patient, but as a fellow professional, actually missing the fact that this is a vulnerable doctor, a vulnerable patient. in the ten years since class, i took the php, it has seen over 5000 doctors. the service has treated more than double the amount of women to men. the average age of doctors has dropped from 51.6 years old in 2008 to 38.9 in 2018. about a quarter weren't working when they first presented to the php, but more than 900 of those doctors subsequently returned to work. i think the last taboo in the nhs is the acknowledgement that doctors also have mental health problems, that doctors themselves are not immune to all the pressures that are piled onto them, that doctors can somehow absorb all the stress and strain of everyday medical practices. what my service has shown is that if you offer an accessible
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confidential service then doctors will come for treatment, and not just come, they get better. let's talk about this now. here with us in the studio is dr zaid al—najjar, who is deputy medical director of the practitioner health programme, caroline elton, an occupational psychologist who works specifically with doctors, and angelika luehrs, who is co—chair of the doctor support network, which offers a confidential peer—to—peer support network for doctors. she was diagnosed with bipolar affective disorder during her training. welcome all of you and thank you for coming on the programme. let's talk about this last taboo, whether doctors and their own mental health issues could be the last to be as was suggested in chris's film. do you agree? i do, it is difficult for doctors to accept they have a health
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issue and it is the last to be because when doctors admit to themselves they have a health problem, which in itself is difficult, finding help comes with fear of being stigmatised with their mental health problem, fear of career repercussions, fear of being referred to the medical regulator, fearfor referred to the medical regulator, fear for the livelihood, and fear of shame professionally.” fear for the livelihood, and fear of shame professionally. i would absolutely echo that and some of the doctors who have come to see me over the years, when they have actually disclosed to, let's say, a senior consultant, or a gp partner, they have been treated extremely poorly. and word from that will get round. it absolutely reflects what we see in the doctor support network, what our members come forward with, it is an immense fearthat
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our members come forward with, it is an immense fear that if you do disclose their mental illness it will affect your career, it might finish your career. has to you? it hasn't, i work as a consultant psychiatrist and been very lucky in the way it has worked out, and it hasn't happened to me but there are doctors out there and they may have that experience. there is a sense of loneliness that they feel they are the only ones who have got these kind of problems, and that those words doctors support network comes forward in providing peer support and show they are not alone. in a sense they are the same as everybody else. they worry about the shame, stigmatisation, they don't want to tell their boss. i wonder if there is something specific about a medical professional because perhaps we think you are supposed to be invincible. i think there is thought that doctors are somehow superhuman like and they should carry on regardless. i think the culture of
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medicine in the nhs, is if you are u nwell medicine in the nhs, is if you are unwell or if you take time off you are letting the side down, letting your team down letting your patients down. you get socialised into this culture of just ploughing down. you get socialised into this culture ofjust ploughing through without really thinking of your own health needs. what we are trying to do, at practitioner health programme and other organisations that we are trying to promote, has asked the help because that's the hardest thing for doctors to do, to admit they need it —— allow them to ask they need it —— allow them to ask the help. it is confusing, do you go to yourgp? do the help. it is confusing, do you go to your gp? do you go to php? the help. it is confusing, do you go to your gp? do you go to php7m the help. it is confusing, do you go to your gp? do you go to php? it is interesting that you say that the doctor might be confused about where to go for help because that's how quite a lot of other people feel. you are supposed to know, aren't you? you become so focused on progressing oftenjunior you? you become so focused on progressing often junior doctors are going from post to post every six
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months and many don't have a gp. they also have their own family problems. many are carers for other people, elderly and the young it is confusing when you are young.” people, elderly and the young it is confusing when you are young. i want to read you this letter sent to us bya to read you this letter sent to us by a paediatric doctor working in the north of england for the past ten yea rs the north of england for the past ten years and like the dozen or so doctors who we contacted receiving help for mental health issues didn't wa nt to help for mental health issues didn't want to speak to us live on the programme because they were worried about what might happen to them in theirjobs. but they did want us to share some of their thoughts about what it's like working in the nhs with type two bipolar disorder and this is a quote from the letter. there is still a huge mat of stigma around mental illness in doctors. it has always felt as if i'm expected to deal with everything and anything thatis to deal with everything and anything that is thrown at me in the same way that is thrown at me in the same way that those around me do, head down and crack on. i was always terrified and crack on. i was always terrified and to some extent still am of what would happen if someone found out i had mental health problems. fear of
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what it would do to my reputation. it was initially quite difficult to access support at work and my attem pts access support at work and my attempts were met by resistance. i considered leaving medicine. i could not see how i could still be a doctor with this label. but somehow, with support and care, medication and therapy i found a way back. i'm now well and back working in paediatrics. cultural change will ta ke paediatrics. cultural change will take time. there are improvements but we're not there yet. until that timei but we're not there yet. until that time i don't feel able to go com pletely time i don't feel able to go completely public with this and i worry about how one negative or ill informed comment or reaction would impact on my own emotional well—being. impact on my own emotional well-being. i absolutely relate to that and the fear of going public and getting comments on how other people might perceive you is huge and you do need to think very carefully about whether you want to do that and go public. butjust coming back to something specific about the medical profession and
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mental illness, i can give you one of my best examples. when the... was founded the doctors support network was founded in 1996 and there were two doctors thinking about having peer—to—peer network to support each other and they approached the medical profession because they felt it was a really good idea and the medical profession turned round and said you will find you are the only ones, good luck with that, you will need it. there was absolutely no knowledge and. hours 1996, it is 2018 and we have made a lot of progress. we have made a lot of progress. we have made a lot of progress but it shows how ingrained it was —— that was 1996. progress but it shows how ingrained it was -- that was 1996. there has been studies of doctors' mental health from the 70s and 805 onwards so health from the 70s and 805 onwards so it isa health from the 70s and 805 onwards so it is a to—do in the sense that in the literature the fact that doctors are prone to depression and anxiety, it is all recorded, you can
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still face that sort of response. they are worried about confidentiality because medicine is a small world. i will see people in worku i have trained with, or i will come across someone who knows someone i have trained with. word will get around, it is not truly confidential and they are worried about seeking help from other doctors because it's such a small world. why are you comfortable with is talking about your bipolar affective disorder? why is that 0k for us to mention on our programme? because i've got a very good support network and i work for an nhs trust which is incredibly supportive. they have been supportive as an organisation giving me the occupational help and support i needed and given me time off and reasonable adjustments when i needed
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them. they have been very supportive in an emotional point of view in treating me as a colleague and i don't feel any negative repercussions because of my illness. if anything, it has probably increased my confidence because of the positive responses i've got. that's good to hear. i'm very aware thatis that's good to hear. i'm very aware that is unfortunately not yet the normal. zaid, the practitioner health programme committee can treat any doctor in london but not throughout the country, why is that? it isa throughout the country, why is that? it is a matter of funding, the nhs has competing priorities for funding and everyone knows it is needed, it's just a matter of time, i would hope. i cannot say exactly when but it will happen. if your figures are accurate, you've been running for ten yea rs accurate, you've been running for ten years and 75% of those doctors not at work return after seeking support from... that's an amazing statistic and the team should be proud of it. doctors who are out of
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work when they come to us, three quarters of them will end up back at work which is something to be said. the issue about confidentiality, is it that you won't be trusted by your collea g u es it that you won't be trusted by your colleagues or you will not get further work? the issue is that doctors fear, and unfortunately with some degree ofjustification, that they will be looked on negatively. there is such a split between the doctor in medical culture, between the doctor and the patient, and to try and inhabit that middle space, to bea try and inhabit that middle space, to be a doctor who also needs that mental health support is extremely difficult. it is difficult for doctors to be patients and let someone else ca re doctors to be patients and let someone else care for you. they are just used to doing that, they have grown up doing that so it's difficult to switch roles. and say, "help me." that's interesting, because i've never thought of it like that. the anonymous letter,
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cultural change will take time. would you say there has been some progress but there is plenty more to come? been lots of progress. if you look back, i don't know, ten or 15 years ago i don't think we would have had the conversation the way we are having it now. i don't think we would have had a php service or agp health service so i think there has beena health service so i think there has been a lot of progress, absolutely. ——agp been a lot of progress, absolutely. —— a gp health service. been a lot of progress, absolutely. -- a gp health service. the system makes it difficult for doctors, we work ina makes it difficult for doctors, we work in a high—pressure environment, the need always outstrips supply. the number of complaints has risen in the last few years and they have a negative impact on doctors. and also there is a way in which i think the current systems have left doctors much more isolated, because postgraduate training can be ten years after leaving medical school and doctors will be moving around to different hospitals during that time. and obviously isolation and lack of support, lack of routes
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increases the risk of mental ill health. alec says i worked in nhs glasgow for 30 years. staff are managed back to work by managers who have little understanding of mental health illness. employees need to be supported rather than managed back to work. mental health issues are the major cause of absence from work. the nhs should be a beacon and an example to other employers. sadly this isn't the case. peter says if the people who provide our mental health care are not protected and help with their own problems, what hope? thank you forjoining us. we appreciate your time. an nhs england spokesperson told us, nhs england launched the nhs gp health service in 2017, a world first, nationally—funded confidential service which specialises in supporting gps and trainee gps experiencing mental ill health and which has already helped more than 1,500 gps. nhs trusts and clinical commissioning groups, may offer additional support for professionals in their area, for example ccgs in london have commissioned the nhs
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practitioner health programme for their staff. a golfer with a prosthetic leg is suing a local authority for refusing to allow him to play on a public course using a buggy. paul howton, whose right leg was amputated after he contracted a deadly tissue eating bacteria, claims brentwood borough council discriminated against him. the council denies this and is defending the claim. we'll speak to paul in a second who is in our chelmsford studio but first our legal eagle clive coleman. remind us why he had to have his leg amputated ? remind us why he had to have his leg amputated? he was a roofer. he knelt in tucson contaminated water. he had an operation on his right knee and thatis an operation on his right knee and that is how they think he got this
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flesh eating virus. it is so good for that it can consume human tissue and muscle at a rate of two centimetres per hour. —— he knelt in some contaminated water. paul is very lucky to be alive. i believe he had the last ride read to him in hospital. he had five amputations altogether. after that he took up golf. —— the last rites. he has played for england. because he has a stump and he cannot walk 18 holes he needed badly in order to get round a full golf course. he has a special buggy that it takes to golf courses with him. but when he took it he was told he could not play unless he had a medical certificate. and spring in paul. thanks for talking to us. when they ask you for a medical certificate, how did you respond? ——
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let's talk to paul. i was gobsmacked, really. what they actually required was for me to go to my doctor and get a medical certificate, send it to the council, then they would make a decision as to whether they would lease a certificate that i would then present at the golf course. were you there in front of them with your prosthetic leg? yes. they said they we re prosthetic leg? yes. they said they were not discriminating against me. it was the terms and conditions set out about anybody bringing a golf buggy to their golf course had to present this certification. what do you think about that? well, i was, asi you think about that? well, i was, as i say, i was gobsmacked, i've
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never had that happen anywhere i have played before. i presented them my england golf medical clarification, which i carry with me. i also carry public indemnity insurance. but they weren't interested in that. ijust had to have this document that is released by bre ntford council after they have this document that is released by brentford council after they have looked at my medical record. you say that the way they have treated you guessed to scrum elation. is this just about you, or others with disabilities? —— —— that the way they have treated you is discrimination. they said anybody who wanted to use a golf buggy, they say they do not provide them. there is nothing on the hardwood golf club website, but it is buried in terms and conditions on brentwood borough council website. so, you would
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really have difficulty in finding it. there was no printed information at the golf club when asked for it. brentwood borough council is defending this. they say they treat everybody the same. there is no disk and monetary policy. —— discriminatory policy.” and monetary policy. —— discriminatory policy. i have played at over 100 courses around england. i've played all around the world. i've played all around the world. i've not been treated in this way. thank you very much, paul. thank you for talking to us. we shall see what happens. thank you. after 13 years at radio 2, chris evans has announced he's leaving the station, to return to virgin radio. evans — who's one of the bbc‘s highest paid presenters — has spent eight years hosting the station's breakfast show. here's the moment he told listeners he was moving on. it's been quite big news in our
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house over the past few weeks and months. which is saying something. you consider that the twins are still on their way, and it's the fa ct i still on their way, and it's the fact i am going to leave. i'm going to leave radio two. i'm leaving radio two. since i decided this, which has been a conversation i have been having with my nearest and dearest for, like, a year, ifirst discussed it professionally last year, i discussed it with my collea g u es year, i discussed it with my colleagues here, my bosses here a few months ago, just discussing the possibility of it, the prospect of it. a few weeks ago i made my mind up. since that conversation, during those conversations, it had been pointed out to me that i had been here for 13 years. it's a long time. i've been on the breakfast show eight years, taking overfrom the great sir terry wogan. we're joined now by johnny beerling, a former controller of bbc radio 1,
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who was the first to employ chris evans on national radio. how do you react to this?” how do you react to this? i am very surprised, actually. i'm in spain at the moment, so i don't hear him very often. he's done a greatjob. it was no mean feat taking over from somebody as popular as sir terry wogan. he was the nation's favourite. his success is only due to the fact that like terry what you got was what he is. his natural personality comes through, i think. if you are looking for a successor they've got to find somebody with that attractiveness about them. i've a lwa ys that attractiveness about them. i've always found, working in radio, something like 36 years, all of the best presenters, whether it is tony blackburn, they are much the same off the airas blackburn, they are much the same off the air as they are on her. that is the secret of chris's success. —— on the air. in radio you can do the
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brea kfast on the air. in radio you can do the breakfast show for 25, 35 years, can't you ? breakfast show for 25, 35 years, can't you? or do you think is going on? we know he is returning to virgin. i didn't realise that. i thought he had just had enough of getting up so early in the morning. chuckles iam chuckles i am staggered because he has been incredibly successful there. could there be other things going on? maybe. we just lost a there be other things going on? maybe. wejust lost a distinguished presenter from maybe. wejust lost a distinguished presenterfrom radio maybe. wejust lost a distinguished presenter from radio four. maybe. wejust lost a distinguished presenterfrom radio four. they maybe. wejust lost a distinguished presenter from radio four. they are going to lbc. maybe he has different challenges. maybe he is tired of presenting music and he has a bigger challenge coming up. do you think there would be controversy about the salary of somebody like chris evans? do you think that is on the back of his mind? i do not think he is pushed for a couple of quid. i don't imagine it isjust pushed for a couple of quid. i don't imagine it is just for the pushed for a couple of quid. i don't imagine it isjust for the money. because he has the largest radio
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audience of any national radio station. radio 2 has taken over the role radio one had. i don't think it is purely money. it mustjust be more demanding for him. let's talk about potential successors. a woman? it's interesting, isn't it? if i am a controller of radio two... 0h! don't worry. i would look within the ra nks don't worry. i would look within the ra n ks of don't worry. i would look within the ranks of the existing broadcasters. because simon mayo, who was presenting drive time until recently on his own, was hugely popular and he did the longest running breakfast show on radio one. he might be a natural successor. there has been a certain amount of controversy because simon mayo was paired up with joe riley at drivetime because simon mayo was paired up withjoe riley at drivetime and that aroused the of a lot of listeners. they could solve that problem, joe riley at drivetime and that simon mayo and about the show, it would
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not be a bad choice. ——jo mayo and about the show, it would not be a bad choice. —— jo whiley. the more presenters? don't know. i'm a bit out of touch. somebody like gloria hunniford is not a youngster any more but she is still a very good broadcaster. she is familiar with the music played on radio two. she might sit constantly in that spot. chris evans's standing is often sara cox, anotherformer radio one presenter, how about her?” haven't heard her lately. i couldn't judge her suitability for that slot. she would be good, she is from bolton, she is a northerner, she has loads of personality. and she is a woman. she wears a cloth cap! she really doesn't. but thank you for coming onto the programme. he gave chris evans his firstjob. thank you for your company today. we are back tomorrow at nine o'clock. thank you very much if you are a medical
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professional and you got in touch about your mental health issues today. we appreciate it. we know how difficult that can be. thank you for your company. we have a band of cloud and outbreaks of rain stretching into scotland. and into the midlands and south west of england. the rain will be patchy the further south west r. find the sunshine across east anglia. temperatures up to 24. —— the further south—west u r and fine sunshine across east anglia. patchy drizzle through the midlands and wales. most places will become mainly dry. there are skies over northern ireland. a chilly night here. temperatures holding up around 14 celsius in these areas. tomorrow, a mixture of variable cloud and sunny spells. maybe the odd spot of drizzle, but most places mainly dry. temperatures tomorrow between 16 and 22. this is bbc news.
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i'm joanna gosling. these are the top stories developing at 11: borisjohnson has attacked the prime minister's brexit strategy, saying her chequers plan amounted to going into battle with "the white flag fluttering." up to 80,000 paedophiles in the uk pose a sexual threat to children online, according to the home secretary sajid javid. it's the biggest radio show in europe with more than 9 million listeners but bbc radio 2's chris evans is heading back to commercial radio at the end of the year.
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i'm going to leave. i'm going to leave radio two, i'm leaving. a fire has destroyed a large section of the landmark former littlewoods pools building in liverpool.

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