tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News September 11, 2018 9:00am-11:01am BST
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hello, it's tuesday, it's nine o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. in the states, hurricane florence is set to hit the east coast of south carolina in the coming days — more than a million people have been told to leave their homes. north carolina is taking hurriacane florence seriously seriously and you should too. get ready now. we'll have the latest atjust after 9.30. the government's failing to protect thousands of children — including british ones — from trafficking. that's according to a new report which claims victims are only helped once a criminal offence has been reported. this woman was trafficked to the uk when she was 1a. i was a slave because i had to do things, you know, unpaid job, and then on top of that i was limited of the things that i felt i was entitled for. i wasn't allowed to have a shower for more than five minutes. i was not allowed to have a light in my room. there was a tiny tv in my room,
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i wasn't allowed to put that on. i wasn't allowed to put anything on unless she told me to. so why has there been a 66% increase in reports of child trafficking in a year? policing in england and wales may not be sustainable, and the government has no idea what the impact ofjob cuts has been. that's according to a damning report today. over a4,000 jobs have been lost in policing and arrest rates have fallen. the head of the body that represents front line police tells us the system is near breaking point. it is time to invest if policing, policing is going to break beyond if you are a police officer or work for one of england and wales‘ 43 forces, tell us about the pressures and challenges of yourjob. hello, welcome to the programme.
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we're live until 11 this morning. if you are a police officer, or work in a cilviian rolse for a police force, please do get in touch with us today to lett us know what is particularly challening in yourjob to let us know what is particularly challening in yourjob at the moment. we ask because of that spending watchdog report out today, which says that the government doesn't really understand the demand, pressures and funding situation in forces up and down the country. so do let us know what it's like working for the police in 2018. use the hashtag victoria live. if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you — and maybe want to take part in the programme — please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you'll be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today. more than one million people in the american state of south carolina have been told to leave their homes, ahead of the arrival of hurricane florence. it's feared the storm, with winds of up to 140 miles an hour, could bring widespread flooding. peter bowes reports. a monster storm that
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could bring catastrophic levels of rain and flooding. hurtling towards the us east coast with growing wind speeds, the authorities fear hurricane florence could have a deadly impact on several states, with the carolinas and virginia the hardest hit. it'll be dumping water on us in north carolina, all of which will flow come through south carolina, much of what's in north carolina, so we're liable to have a whole lot of flooding, particularly in the pee dee area. estimated one million people are fleeing to safety, not sure whether they'll have homes to return to. we do have a plan to perhaps evacuate. we want to watch it through today and see what's happening. see what happens, and hopefully we have a business to come back to. the authorities are taking no chances. this could be the most devastating storm to hit north carolina since hurricane hugo ravaged the state and claimed many lives almost 30 years ago.
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north carolina is taking hurricane florence seriously, and you should too. get ready now. close on the heels of florence, two other storms are expected to increase in ferocity in the coming days. the atlantic hurricane season is proving relentless. peter bowes, bbc news. joanna gosling is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the days news. the home office is being accused of failing to understand the impact of cuts to the police service in england and wales. the public spending watchdog, the national audit office, says forces have been cutting staff to save money, while arrest rates have fallen. our home affairs correspondent danny shaw reports. what do our cops cost, and do they provide value for money? important questions
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but ones the home office is struggling to answer. that's the main finding from a report by experts who examined government spending, the national audit office. the report on police finances says the home office is spending £8.6 billion on the police service this year, but it says there are significant gaps in the department's understanding of costs and demand, and it criticises the home office for relying on a formula for funding forces which is ineffective and detached from the changing nature of policing. the funding formula they've used to allocate money is out of date, and the home office told parliament in 2015 that the formula was ineffective. here we are three years later, and there hasn't been an update of that formula, and so it's unlikely that the money is going to the right places. the report says since 2010 when budgets were cut, police have carried out less proactive work, like breathalyser tests. it says there are fewer arrests and it's taking
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longer to charge suspects. the home office denies it doesn't understand the demands on policing. it says its increased overall police funding this year, and sajid javid, the home secretary, will fell superintendents later at their conference that he is doing all he can to support frontline officers. danny shaw, bbc news. public health england has compiled what it calls "the most comprehensive picture" of the nation's current health and future fitness. it's warning that the number of people with type two diabetes will increase from four—million to five—million in the next 20 years. 0besity, dementia and mental health issues are also on the rise. here's our health correspondent james gallagher. 0ur health is changing rapidly. a million more people will have diabetes in 20 years' time, dementia is on the cusp of becoming the biggest killer of men. it already causes the most deaths in women. while the chances of dying from a heart attack, stroke or cancer keeps falling. public health england says the nhs will have to adapt faster than at time in its history
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in order to cope. the report highlights the opportunity for prevention, and the role the nhs can play there, but it also shows the changes in nature of illnesses, which the nhs will need to respond to. and it also highlights the importance of addressing social inequalities. smoking, which is a major cause of cancer and heart problems, is one reason for the changing picture of our health. the smoking ban, plain packs and vaping, have all led to more of us kicking the habit. 15% of adults in england were smokers last year. the report predicts that figure could fall below 10% in the next five years. public health england hopes to achieve a smoke—free society, defined as less than 1 in 20 smoking, by the end of the next decade. the glaring gap between rich and poor is also highlighted, in the report. the richest in society are enjoying nearly two more decades of good health than the poorest. the findings of this report will be crucialfor the nhs, as it prepares its new long—term plan for the health service.
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james gallagher, bbc news. the eu's chief negotiator says a brexit deal is possible within six to eight weeks. michel barnier said if both sides are "realistic" there could be an agreement on the terms of the uk's exit by early november. but he warned again that several issues remained unresolved. a special summit of eu leaders is now expected in november. the government is failing to protect thousands of children from exploitation by lacking a plan to prevent child trafficking, according to a new report. the uk anti—trafficking monitoring group claims many children will only receive help once a criminal offence takes place, instead of preventing it happening in the first place. the government says it has a clear plan to prevent human trafficking. north korea's leader kimjong—un has written to donald trump, asking for a follow—up to their historic summit. the white house says it's already looking at scheduling a new meeting. negotiations over north korea's
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denuclearisation programme appeared to have stalled, after the two leaders' historic summit in singapore injune. plans to increase the number of zero—emission vehicles developed and produced in the uk, will be unveiled by theresa may today. she'll promise £100 million for research into new batteries and low carbon technology, as our transport correspondent tom burridge reports. in a couple of decades, the government wants every new vehicle in britain to be one of these. electric, or similar technology, with nearly no emissions. one of the goals is to improve the air we breathe. like other major cities, birmingham has roads which are heavily polluted so the prime minister will address a green vehicle summit here. she will argue that britain can be a leader in low emission technology. the prime minister will also set aside more funding for developing green vehicles in britain. creating better batteries is key. 0ne academic i spoke to said britain isn't lagging behind but isn't at the forefront either,
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and one challenge is to create more public charging points. the number of electric vehicles is on the rise, but they still only account for 5% of new cars bought in britain. russia will today begin what it says is the largest military exercise in its history. the five days of war games in eastern siberia will involve 300,000 soldiers, more than 30,000 military vehicles, 1,000 planes and 80 warships. a number of troops from china and mongolia will also take part. the shadow chancellor, john mcdonnell, will warn today that workers' rights are as bad as they were during the 1930s. in his speech to the tuc congress he'll say the government has stripped back employment rights to a level not seen since the economic depression 80 years ago. he'll promise new rights for workers in the so called gig economy. what came out of recent independent reports is that the balance has
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shifted too far now, against the rights of workers in particular. and that's displayed as well in the distribution of national income now. for the first time, more is going to shareholders than to workers themselves, the wealth creators, and that cannot be right. so all we're simply trying to do is redress that imbalance and try to create what is, in effect, a fair economy. fans of sir rod stewart have a chance to get their hands on some of the rock star's posessions — as they go up for auction today. more than 60 items are up for grabs — including armchairs, side tables and bookcases. it's believed sir rod decided to have a clearout after recently moving home — but we'll have to wait and see if the first lot is the cheapest. a new arrival has made a playful appearance at chester zoo. a sun bear cub — who is yet to be named — may only be 12 weeks old, but she has already made history by being the first of her species to be born in the uk. her mother milli, and dad toni, were both rescued from illegal wildlife traders in cambodia.
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that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30. after ten we will talk about the spending watchdog which suggest that police forces in england and wales funding is not sustainable. there is lots of criticism about the government. but really we want to hear from you if you work for one of those 43 police force, in a civilian role or as a police officer. whatever level. because we want your experience of what it is like working for the police in britain in 2018. this texter says i have been a police officer for over 20, i am a response officer attending emergency calls, i can spend 30 minutes at a job but two hours writing about that job. the workload and the computer systems that don't work cause more
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stress tha n systems that don't work cause more stress than anything. it is like emptying a bath with a spoon and then someone filling it up with a bucket. thank you for that. if you are getting in touch you are very welcome. if you want to get in touch include your phone number on your e—mail. let's get some sport. azi farni is at the bbc sport centre. it was a fairy tale ending for alastair cook in his final test. he ended his career the way he started it — with a century against india. arriving at the crease on 46 not out, england's most capped test player and record run scorer finished on 147. but the final century came in bizarre circumstances. cook thought he'd got a single whilst on 96, before india messed up their fielding and threw to the ball to the boundary to give him an extra four runs. it was a historic day all round for cook, who surpassed kumar sangakkara to become the fifth—highest test run scorer — and most prolific left—hander — before reaching his 33rd and final
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test hundred. and this is how they celebrated cook's last century back in the dressing room, his team—mates joining the 19 thousand strong crowd in giving cook a standing ovation and long round of applause. the day wasn't all about cook though, as james anderson was making records of his own. he took two wickets in four balls in his second over to reduce india to two for three. that saw him equal australian great glenn mcgrath‘s pace bowling record of 563 test wickets. one more today and anderson will be the most successful fast bowler in test history. india will resume later on 58—3 as they chase an improbable target of 464. on to golf and there's a new — british — world number one. yes, and it'sjustin rose.
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he's climbed to the top of the world rankings after finishing second at the bmw championship in philadelphia. rose could've won the tournament if he'd holed this putt, but it just lipped out, forcing him into a play—off against keegan bradley. the american went onto to win it, but rose had already done enough to become just the fourth briton to lead the men's rankings, after sir nick faldo, luke donald and lee westwood. and afterward rose paid tribute to his dad ken, who died five years ago, but played a huge role in rose's rise to professioal golf. he said "we did it dad... world number one". a great achievement for him. and roy keane is causing controversy again? the republic of ireland boss martin 0'neill has played down a row between his assistant roy keane and a couple of players. a whatsapp audio message has been leaked, describing how keane accused jonathan walters and harry arter of feigning injury
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to avoid training. the row apparently got very heated — with a lot of language that we can't repeat. but 0'neill says it's all part and parcel of professional football. first of all, the incidents took place at the end of may when they were in camp, so they've surfaced now here's some four months later. it wouldn't be the first conversation, it wouldn't be the first tete—a—tete, and it certainly wouldn't be the first... if i can call it altercation between players and staff. and before i go, ferrari havejust announced that kimi raikkonen will leave them at the end of the current formula one series. we don't know if he's going to another team, and no information yet on his replacement. that's all the sport for now.
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thank you let's talk about a 12—year—old british girl called maya — which isn't her real name. she went to school, was in touch with social workers and doctors but for seven years, no one realised she was being trafficked and exploited for sex. more than 2,000 suspected child trafficking victims — like maya — were reported to the uk authorities in 2017 — a 66% increase from the year before and british children make up the biggest group of suspected victims of trafficking — with 677 referred to the authorities in 2017. a report today by the uk's anti—trafficking monitoring group is accusing the government of failing to protect thousands of children from exploitation. the organisation claims victims only receive help once a criminal offence has taken place — instead of preventing it happening at all. yet the home office says it already has a clear plan to prevent human trafficking, especially of children. we've covered this issue on the programme in the past.
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here's one story of a young woman who was trafficked into the uk when she was 1a — not for sex, but to work effectively as a slave. she spoke to our reporter divya talwar. i wasn't allowed to go out. the only time i used to go out it was just to take the bin from the house to the bin outside. you know, whatever she tell me to do, i needed to do. whatever she told me to say, i needed to say it. tina's one of the girls i met at the group. she was 1a when she was trafficked into the uk from nigeria. she was taken straight to a woman's house, who tina was told to call auntie. she thought she'd be going to school here. instead, she was enslaved in the house. i was a slave, because i had to do things, you know, unpaidjob, and on top of that i was limited
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of the things that i felt i was entitled for. i wasn't allowed to have a shower more than five minute, i was not allowed to have a light in my room, i'm not allowed, because it was like a tiny tv in my room, i wasn't allowed to put that on. i wasn't allowed to put anything on unless she tell me to. and i tried to talk to her again, and she tell me that "oh, you're lucky i haven't sent you for prostitution." was there any physical abuse? she was very, very violent. one day she told me to go and clean the house. that she woke me up, i think around like 6.00 in the morning. normally that's what she does, but she woke me up and she told me to go and clean up, and i wasn't feeling well. so i said to her "i'm not feeling well". she said, "oh, i didn't pay £2,000 for you to come here just to sleep. i want you to clean the house, you need to get up and clean the house."
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so on that day i was cleaning and i think i dropped something, and i was wearing my pyjamas, and then she said, because i don't want to clean the house, that i should get out of the house, and that day was in winter, and it was snowing, so she threw me out of the garden, and then i didn't have no shoes on, and it was snowing everywhere, and she locked all the doors, so i had to stay in the garden. that was like from 9.00 in the morning. let's talk now to the boss of anti—slavery international, jasmine 0'connor, the main group behind today's report. we're also going to hear from three people who work on the front—line helping young victims of trafficking. director of programmes for the organisation every child protected against trafficking — debbie beadle. part of herjob is running weekly youth groups for young people who have been trafficked or exploited. specialist ?human trafficking and modern slavery lawyer philippa southwell. and professional 0fficer from the british association of social workers, gavin moorghen.
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up untiljuly he worked as a social worker and regularly dealt with trafficking cases. welcome all of you. how would you define trafficking jasmine? that is really pawn. trafficking is often viewed as the movement of individuals across countries or borders or within a geographical area but its is not that simple. i doesn't necessarily have to involve movement. it is more accurately defined as the process by which somebody is brought into exploitation. so it could be somebody brought into exploitation on the street they live in, it doesn't have to involve movement. or the example i gave in the introduction which is from your report, a british girl maya, growing up report, a british girl maya, growing up in report, a british girl maya, growing upina report, a british girl maya, growing up in a foster family, report, a british girl maya, growing up in a fosterfamily, in a report, a british girl maya, growing up in a foster family, in a foster family ina up in a foster family, in a foster family in a british town being coerced and forced ex into sexual exploitation even though she is in contact with doctors and social
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workers. absolutely. give us some exa m ples of workers. absolutely. give us some examples of the kind of children you work with. i run weekly youth groups for men and women. they come from a broad of different countries and backgrounds, many have been trafficked for domestic servitude or sexual exploitation. often they come into the country and the same as what you described they do sometimes come to the attention of authorities but a misidentified so you heard a lot of identified as criminals so we have vietnamese children brought over to grow cannabis and instead of being seen as a victim, they are arrested are and prosecuteded for being criminals rather than victims of trafficking. under 18s are? yes, currently thousand from is guidance, we are seeing an improvement when they are identified we are managing to get cases overturned and they are seen as victim, we still see some
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that are children and are identified as adults because they are noted believed about their age and they may not have the right documents so we may not have the right documents so we had a young man that was brought m, we had a young man that was brought in, he was 15, from nigeria, and again everyone though coming forward , again everyone though coming forward, telling the police his story, because he was here with illegal documents, they didn't believe his age and he was put in a deten when centre. what should have happened? he should have gone into local authority care and be seen as a victim. he does asking for help. you specialise in representing victims phillipa, tell us about the young people you have helped. quite similar the classic problem we have in the uk is vietnamese young people, being trafficked for forested cannabis production. i see a wholeerrare of forced criminality. just to break it down for the audience, tell us about the process, let us take a 14—year—old vietnamese
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boy, what happens in orderfor him to get here what is going on in that journey? there is sometimes sophisticated criminal networks but are also crude small networks operating, if we are talking about the classic cultivation, trafficking route through russia, germany, france. is the boy simply taken, abducted from the streets of where ever he likings? it dependsful some times the families are complicit because they think they are being smuggled and coming to the uk to work, to go into education, and that is where there is this elm of deception, and the element of debt bondage, so it is classic for families to put up the deed book as collateral. what does that mean? of their property, for that first part of the journey to the uk, each failed attempt for example from
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france, to england, interest is accrued if there is a failed attempt. i have only seen two cases out of the several hundred where the debt has been paid off, there is an invisible debt. it is never paid off and that is the control mechanism that binds these individuals, to the criminal networks because they know where the families live, everyone when they rehabilitate here and they have protection here, there is very little that we can do, to safeguard their largerfamily little that we can do, to safeguard their larger family network. garvin, let me bring you in. one problem highlighted is that some children go into the care of local authorities and those local authorities lack the specialise training, to protect the young people from trafficking related vulnerabilities, do you think that is fair? well, i think we need to acknowledge that there is a difficulty at the moment, there is very good examples of good practise in this area but at the same time there is an issue with the training
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that local authorities provide for the social workers who are there to safeguard the children. so that means that social workers in some cases don't recognise a young person in theircare is cases don't recognise a young person in their care is being trafficked?” think the issue is that while we can identify that a child is vulnerable, what we lack at the moment is a collective response to identifying the risks and then responding to the risk, that is notjust an issue for social worker, this is care workers across the board. guy have the figures gone up so dramatically? there is numerous reason, the fact we aren't tackling the problem, the fa ct we aren't tackling the problem, the fact that we... on that point the government rejects sop of what you are saying today, home office statement, the government has a clear plan to prevent human trafficking and this has been a key component of our world leading approach to tackling modern slavery. we have spent or committed to spend
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£150 million of the aid budget on tackling mod everyone slavery. we would have welcomed the opportunity to inform the writing of your report so to inform the writing of your report so it accurately reflects the important work the government is doing. i think, just to take some of those individually, i think the government has done good work, we are not denying that, but what we are not denying that, but what we are saying is there isn't a joined up are saying is there isn't a joined up strategy, and there isn't sufficient focus on prereception, so just to give you one specific example, the modern slave react makes a provision for a form of guardianship to support individuals when they are vulnerable, they get given a specific point of contact, who can advocate for them who can work legally to support them, but
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that could have been rolled out a long time ago, there has been pilots and it is only now we are starting to hear the potential of that being rolled out. in a sense, you know, there are a number of good initiatives but it is bringing that together, andic making sure it is child focussed, right at the very centre, that it has the right kind of support, not just for social workers but for all those individuals that came in contact with maya, who missed the signs, i mean she described that when eventually the signs were spotted, it was just that one policeman who delved a little deeper, so we are critical of the government in the respect that those pieces they have trialled in different place, need to be put together, in a very very specific strategy, that is time bound, that is properly evaluated, and that we learn the lessons and understand more about what can be done. just can, sorry, can i respond to the point around the home office
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engaging with the report. we did reach out to them, at a very early stage, to see how they would want to engage and give the opportunity to engage, and unfortunately, they came back to us after the deadline, so in terms of writing the specific report, the window was missed but we are very open to continue dialogue now. briefly, what would you change today? to help protectjung people more. sorry, what i would suggest here, is going back on the case study you men shinned 06 maya, —— mentioned. there was a lack of joining the dots as one of my previous managers would say to me, there is different risks which would have aer put there, which perhaps there was a failure to bring them together. the other thing there, and i see this with some of my colleague, where you sometimes come across a situation, where there has
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been too much emphasis on one individual having to champion the rights of the individual child whereas it should have been a collective approach, this is not to criticise any one individual, there needs to be a corporate response, and we need some guidance, so we can have a consistent approach to this serious issue. i know the young people i work with would say they just want to be believed and treated with compassion and kindness. where iam with compassion and kindness. where i am usually involved is where everything has gone wrong so they have been prosecuted and convict and numerous professionals have been involved and it has been missed. law enforcement, lawyer, social worker, really basic training, you know we have the legal framework, we do have protection but it is about implementation and basic victim identification at an early stage. 0k. identification at an early stage. ok. thank you all. still to come.
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residents in north carolina make panicked preparations as more than a million people are advised to leave their homes for hurricane florence — which is heading for american's east coast. we'll be speaking live to emergency response teams. more than 130 new cases of ebola emerge in the congo — oxfam say the next few weeks are critical to contain the virus. time for the latest news — here's joanna gosling. more than a million people in the us state of south carolina have been told to leave their homes, as they await the arrival of hurricane florence. a state of emergency has been declared for virginia as well as north and south carolina. it's feared that with winds of up to 140 miles an hour, the storm could cause widespread flooding. the home office is being accused of failing to understand the impact of cuts to the police service in england and wales. a report by the public spending watchdog, the national audit office, says forces have been cutting staff to save money, while arrest rates have fallen.
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the home office says it has increased funding this year, but it's being warned that the money isn't always spent in the right ways. public health england has compiled what it calls "the most comprehensive picture" of the nation's current health and future fitness. it's warning that a million more people will have diabetes in 20 years time, and that obesity, dementia and mental health issues are on the rise. it shows england's population is growing in size and people are living longer, but more older women are in poor health. the eu's chief negotiator says a brexit deal is possible within six to eight weeks. michel barnier said if both sides are "realistic" there could be an agreement on the terms of the uk's exit by early november. but he warned again that several issues remained unresolved. a special summit of eu leaders is now expected in november. the government is failing to protect thousands of children from exploitation by lacking a plan to prevent child trafficking, according to a new report. the uk anti—trafficking monitoring group claims many
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children will only receive help once a criminal offence takes place, instead of preventing it happening in the first place. the government says it has a clear plan to prevent human trafficking. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. here's some sport now with azi farni. va rey varey at the end of the season, the 2007 world champion has announced a return to sauber, ferrari have and announced a replacement but it's expected to be charles leclerc. alastair cook stirs much career ended with a century. in the resume the final day of the test and 58—3. justin rose is only the fourth british golfer to regional barwon in the world rankings after finishing
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second at the bmw championship in philadelphia. and philadelphia started nations campaign with a win over. steven naismith scored in the win at hamden park. a group of mps from across the political parties says the government is failing to tackle racial inequality in the uk. last year the government published its own so—called racial disparity audit which found that there were huge dispararities it found that black men are three times as likely as white men to be arrested. one in ten adults from non white or mixed racial backgrounds are unemployed, compared to one in 25 white people. home ownership was far lower in african and arab households than white and many asian communities. the mps' committee chaired by the conservative maria miller has called upon the government to create a race equality strategy
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across all departments to tackle those disaparities. but the goverment‘s rejected that call. let's speak to maria miller — chair of the women and equalities select committe; also we can speak to darren mcgarvey — also known as hip—hop artist loki, won the orwell prize for his book poverty safari, yohanes scarlett — former youth worker and host of scattered minds' podcast focusing on the afro—caribbean community and dr. zubaida haque — deputy director of the runnymede trust. maria miller, what is the government doing —— not doing that it should be doing? theresa may said she wanted to address the inequalities that we re to address the inequalities that were suffered by many people in the
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community, but if we are going to make sure that has a real effect across government we also feel there needs to be a strategy in place and the government has been very clear it will make sure government departments review the data on the race disparity order that we need to make sure that drives real changes. he said tackling racial inequality isa he said tackling racial inequality is a priority for the government and the cabinet office is driving this initiative forward at every level in society. we've taken action to address issues including launching and £90 million programme and delivering targeted support to address employment gaps in 20 local areas and we will announce further measures in the coming weeks. areas and we will announce further measures in the coming weeksm that enough? the government was break that enough? the government was brea k clear that enough? the government was break clear it wanted departments to explain or change if they found inequalities in the data that affected their policy areas, things like education, we see wide
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working—class boys most likely to get the worse results, or indeed in employment, we see people from a bme ground twice as likely to be unemployed as people who are white british. i think if they are going to explain and really changed their policies, there needs to be a clearer strategy about how departments are going to work together so that's what we are calling on the government to do. darren, a big part of the disparity highlighted in that original ordered was that of white british and irish pupils on free school meals falling behind at school, during your research what had you discover about how poverty influences life chances in that way? first of all of someone is entitled to free school meals thenit is entitled to free school meals then it means they are living in conditions of social deprivation of some sort. it's increasingly the case that people become entitled to these things even though whoever is in the household actually works and
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that speaks a lot to the dire economic context in which a lot of the social inequalities and social problems are emerging from. for a child who's going to school who is entitled to free school meals they may be prominent byron particularly stressful, whether that be because of financial insecurity, residential instability or some kind of other dysfunction at home in the household. when we are dealing with young people about sort we have got to think about it in terms of the emotional stress they are under and how this becomes a formative experience for how they view themselves. and the world. the doctor nodding in agreement. yes, i think particularly, poverty is a massive aspect of tackling race inequality, these are structural issues that black and ethnic minority children have and i think we minority children have and i think we need to go back to what theresa may said when she stood on the steps of numberten and may said when she stood on the steps of number ten and said we are going to have this race disparity ordered,
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and collecting statistics about racial inequalities is quite important but then she said something which was even more important witches, this is about explain reformed. the problem is you can explain away data, it's really easy to explain away data but you can'tjustify easy to explain away data but you can't justify inequality, so you easy to explain away data but you can'tjustify inequality, so you can explain inequality, that's the easy pa rt explain inequality, that's the easy part but justifying it explain inequality, that's the easy part butjustifying it and certainly changing it is where we have got the problems and i think in that sense theresa may explain or reformed policy was quite flawed to begin with. in 2017 the audit found black men were three times more likely than fight to be arrested, is that changing? it doesn't seem to be, the interesting thing about these statistics as they seem to be burning much stable from going back 30 years, a lot of the stereotypes are still in there, still being relayed and played out. the question is, i was surprised when is theresa
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may speech on the steps of downing street, i thought it was strange coming from a conservative brand minister, i was happy to hear talking about these things, words are nice but what is going to be the actual action and outcome and it's quite shocking to see this paper, the recommendations made and in almost a day the government has already said we are not going to follow the strategy, we seem to be too preoccupied with things like brexit and other issues. i'm not going to repeat the statement but they said they'd done worst of all ready and there's more to be announced in the weeks. ok. they've kicked the ball into the long grass. as always. as maria points out there is lots going on but it's notjoined up is lots going on but it's notjoined up and the thing about inequality is first of all it's not short—term, it spans across peoples lifestyle. darren talked about the fight working—class and that's a huge issue for the fight working class which is in a sense meritocracy in this country, it's a bit of a lie, they can get over the social
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mobility barriers and the government is not addressing it but the other issues about inequality, they are equally systemic and endemic. the barriers and bias that mean that black boys get stopped and searched six times, by the same barriers and bias that mean that they have exclusion rates that are high, that means they are more likely to go into prison, that means they have to send two times more cds than their white counterparts to get jobs. and those are the issues that theresa may needs to address once again it goes back to the problem of its great, as you harness it, but it's great, as you harness it, but it's great to talk about policies and as maria says to collect data that is a first step that we need action. —— cvs. darren, you say and i am quoting, you say the system is designed by emotionally stable people to benefit emotionally stable people, explain how that influences
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attainment levels in your view. i'm not necessarily saying it's a conspiracy, it's by virtue of her social mobility or immobility works, it means people who are more emotionally capable and thus are able to excel in academia for example or get through education, they won't actually —— will ascend into positions of influence in media, health, politics, it creates a repeat of experience between people who have grown up in relative affluence and people on the other side of the rabin who are subject to a lot of the legislation, the laws and social cues designed by society to try and influence and change behaviour and basically what i am finding, a lot of the social cues are being misinterpreted and is read from the classroom all the way up to homeless services, mental health services and ultimately we need to recalibrate a lot of the services. if you take a child in a classroom
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who is on free school meals, ten years along the develop and trajectory they are likely to be on benefits, have a criminal record, they are going to be getting strongly worded letters through the doors, from government institutions, taking no account of the emotional circumstances, it's designed to frighten them and that's a terrible way to behave and that is replicated all the way through the institutions and begins in school. maria miller, to bring you back in, could reason that all the things that were promised have been done yet be because of brexit which is all—consuming? because of brexit which is all-consuming? no, ithink this because of brexit which is all-consuming? no, i think this is entirely separate, the race disparity ordered is a good thing in its own right but what my committee wa nts to its own right but what my committee wants to see is more of the data being made available, or of the data being made available, or of the data being comparable so we can really understand the sort of problems that have just talked about in education, employment, at the moment the data isn't comparable across departments.
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in some areas particularly to do with gypsy roma traveller is it's not collected as well as it could be. i think the government should be applauded for this first step but what we need to make sure is that it's not just what we need to make sure is that it's notjust a first what we need to make sure is that it's not just a first step, what we need to make sure is that it's notjust a first step, we get better data but then it really is pa rt better data but then it really is part of a coherent strategy across government to tackle the problems, not just identify them. what government to tackle the problems, notjust identify them. what needs to change? with all due respect can i come back and outcome of the government is capable of collecting data and looking for solutions at the same time, it seems to be a strategy for kicking it into the long grass. look at community groups ina lot long grass. look at community groups in a lot of these areas, doing work. let's talk about funding community groups, over the past few years we've seen massive cuts to actual social funding, to youth clubs and things like this which will help and give people, youth and unemployment skills and as my friend said about the emotional intelligence and stability, a lot of these young
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people come from homes where they are not educated into the way to be able to understand their emotions, they need extra help and support and that's been cut away by society. extra policing alone does not help them. thank you all very much, thank you for your time. your views welcome on a related theme. we also talking about funding cuts to the police today in england and wales, is spending watchdog report which suggests the government hasn't realised realised the demand on the police, the predators on police and the funding formula is not sustainable. i was asking if you are in open —— a police officer or work in the civilian rule in england and wales at the challenges are. john says i was a police detective for 30 yea rs, says i was a police detective for 30 years, now retired but still doing contract work for designated investigations. never known it so bad. like the comments from the response officer earlier, fewer resources , response officer earlier, fewer resources, staff, higher workload, expectations, more abbey and
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office—based requirements than ever, like swimming in treacle. on face big mad says were i work we've been depleted from four community beat managers to one. the population were we work has increased by 150% since policing numbers were established. new n ew offe nces new offences relating to things like facebook, mobile phones and the drug culture, immigration, violent crime to did exist in police numbers were set up over 20 years ago so we now have over twice the population. leadership this week, they don't lead by example but by a culture of fear, the system is already broken in numbers, morale and a club motion system and selfish management. or of those to come, we are going to talk much more after 10am. president trump has urged people on america's east coast to "be prepared, be careful and be safe" ahead of the arrival
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of hurricane florence later this week. in a tweet he said, ‘my people just informed me that this is one of the worst storms to hit the east coast in many years. also, looking like a direct hit on north caroline, south carolina and virginia'. the storm — which is carrying winds of 140 miles an hour — is expected to grow even stronger before making landfall on thursday, mostly likely one and a quarter million people have been given evacuation orders in south carolina and virginia — and two of the states have declared emergencies. everybody needs to prepare, the largest threat to life is not the high winds, flooding is the deadliest result of these storms. when weather forecasters tell us life threat think, we know it's serious north faces three threads
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here, first the ocean surge along the coach —— post, then the strong winds which may be higher than the other hurricane is that we have re ce ntly other hurricane is that we have recently experienced and of course inland flooding from heavy rains. and we here in north carolina are bracing for a hard—hit. and we here in north carolina are bracing for a hard-hit. we are liable to have a whole lot of flooding and we have got the hurricane and the search which may be as high as ten feet, maybe more, maybe less, we don't know, coming at us from the ocean and after that we will have water coming down floods. we are in for a real episode here. around a million people living in coastal areas of south carolina have been given evacuation orders starting from 12 o'clock today, as well as a quarter of a million people in virginia. residents are preparing.
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iam i am getting the combine ready, also a couple of generators.” i am getting the combine ready, also a couple of generators. i am leaving. i am very concerned. we do have a plan to perhaps evacuate, we wa nt to have a plan to perhaps evacuate, we want to watch it through today and see what's happening. joining me now from los angeles is the meteorologist geoff fox and 500 miles west of south carolina in louisiana isjessica michot and ang la lorio, founders of the chairty trach mommas of louisiana who will provide aid and emergency medical response to those directly hit by the hurricane. thank you all, first of all, jeff, how powerful is this storm? on the scale that goes 1—5, it is safe or, top winds of 140 miles an hour, there has never been a strike on the
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east coast as far north of a storm this strong and it looks like right now it will maintain the strength it has, maybe even intensify before it gets to the shoreline. could be a little bit of weakening as it comes onshore but as the emergency manager says, the big wheel with this storm is going to be flooding, i would expect everyone is going to leave those barrier islands which will undoubtedly be over washed. the big deal is going to be tidal surge is which as you heard could be over ten feet and ben flooding inland rain, when the governor of virginia's talks about problems he's talking about well inland, hundreds of miles inland, against the mountains further could be as much as a foot or more of rain in 24—36 hours and in hilly areas obviously that could set of flooding. jessica, angela, how are you preparing to help
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people? right now we are ramped up, we people? right now we are ramped up, we have a warehouse of medical supplies, in louisiana we have been through the great flood of 2016 and we through the great flood of 2016 and we know what it's like, we have children who are medically complex underlying technology to live, we are urging the disability community which we serve along with our global partner we are getting the team together, we will have a hotline going and we will be ready upon impact to serve anyone who's evacuated, and needs medical supplies. i'm sorry, i don't know if you arejessica or supplies. i'm sorry, i don't know if you are jessica or angela. supplies. i'm sorry, i don't know if you arejessica or angela. is this your first you arejessica or angela. is this yourfirst big you arejessica or angela. is this your first big hurricane? no, we had
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an unprecedented flood in louisiana in 2016, we responded to all three her against last year, harvey, maria and irma. for we are sitting right now was an island in 2016 in the flood. and we had to mobilise and work with the national guard and helicopters, whatever it took because many people and children who are medically complex had to be flown away. this is the unique challenge working with the disability community, dry to get equal access and have the right to evacuate just like everyone else with the equipped went and the services they need such as the generator, shelter, whatever it is the need to be ok. jeff, how dangerous could the storm be? on
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why, certainly no one wants to be out on those barrier islands, that tory. you are talking about islands that are very narrow, maybe if you hundreds yards in sports but only a foot or two above sea level, so when a storm like this comes in bad storm surge will completely over washed these islands, there will be no land for a file and in many cases it actually can cut channels and create new islands or... hopefully everyone will heed the warning, this will be awful. inland further is not too much you can do is where i'm concerned, especially in flooding, especially in central north carolina and the mountains of virginia's. that could be really catastrophic. thank you so much forjoining us, we appreciate your time. we will keep you updated on the progress of that
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hurricane. coming up... the uk's public spending watchdog warns ministers do not know the impact that funding cuts have had on police forces. much more reaction from you, many of you who work for police forces up and down the country. we'll talk more about that after 10am. ebola has returned to central africa. and there's a warning that mis—information and violence could lead to the latest outbreak getting much worse. the charity oxfam says there've been more than 130 new cases of the virus in the democratic republic of congo, centred around the town of beni. the majority of those have been fatal. and now oxfam is warning that the response of medical groups trying to stop the spread of the disease, is causing fear and panic amongst local communities, potentially making the situation worse. let's go live to beni and speak to emma fanning who's working with oxfam helping communities affected by ebola in the democratic republic of congo.
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thank you very much for talking to us, described the situation in the town you are in now. the thing is it's remarkably normal. the thing that really strikes you when you arrive is how normal it is, it's so, colour, motor bikes going up and down, the markets are functioning. but we are in an area where there's been 25 years of conflict and people have lived with violence for a long time, so much so that nobody cares. there are regular abductions and murders in this town and around, there have been three attacks since i've got here. and now there is, people know no one has cared about that, there is a huge response to ebola, hundreds of cars going up and down the road, people saying this must be the war. what people are seeing, ina
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must be the war. what people are seeing, in a family, for example, there is one we talked to who had lost ten family members, eight of whom were women and they thought this was witchcraft to begin with, now they understand that the virus but they don't understand why and how it works and it's got the same symptoms as malaria and cholera and all the other things you get here. high fevers, diarrhoea, vomiting, but this time i've been told he can't look after the sick people and sometimes people are being taken away by some of the communities, they tell us people are taken away by force. and their families are having to die alone. and they can be buried how the usually will be, all of which is even more traumatising to those communities. while the response itself, its really not bad given the circumstances. i think we really have to acknowledge how much eve ryo ne really have to acknowledge how much everyone is doing. there are lessons
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that we have learnt elsewhere particularly around working with communities that we need to be better on and really listening to them and involving them and especially women. talking of women aren't there are rumours going around that this is some sort of plot to kill local women? is that right? there are two things, one of the rumours is that this is a plot to kill the local people in this area, and that's because people feel so neglected here but then when we talk to communities, the first question women will ask us, why women, why is it coming to us? and u nfortu nately women, why is it coming to us? and unfortunately it's because women have such an essential role in preparing bodies for funerals, including washing them and that's when the corpses most contagious with ebola, during that preparation. and women also are the ones who
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prepare and look after the sick people and they don't have a choice ina way people and they don't have a choice in a way the culture is set up. they just can't make those decisions themselves. i met the other day, i talked to members of the community who said why can't i be vaccinated, i'm breast—feeding my child and i washed a corpse? white can't you protect me? and it's because she's breast—feeding. i have a daughter and not much older than that, i've recently stopped breast—feeding but if that was me i could squeeze my daughterformula which if that was me i could squeeze my daughter formula which people can't do here and put an even more at risk and they don't understand that, it makes people angry and frustrated. emma, thanks so much for talking to us. at 10am, the latest news and sport but first, the latest weather,
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including the news on her compliance. simon, good morning. or is, currently a category four storm, this is the satellite imagery, from space, it looks absolutely beautiful but it's what is beneath it and within it that is going to be worrying. tracking its way across the atlantic, heading towards north and south carolina, this is one computer model, the exact track could change but we expect huge amount of rainfall, 3—4 feet by the end of the week. we'll be key being a close eye on that. back on for many of us, a dry stored, some rain this morning in norfolk, you can see the rain we've had already across northern parts of england into wales. this band of rain starting to fragment a little as it moves further south across the midlands, south west england, patchy rain in towards east anglia. further south,
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staying largely dry and pride, to the north of that, some bright spills, showers weaving their way into the west of scotland, quite lost three, especially in the north—west, gusts reaching 60 miles an hour this afternoon. for many, feeling quite cool and fresh, temperatures between 15—19d, in the south—east holding onto some warmth with highs of 23 degrees. as we go through this evening and tonight, this band of rain still with you in the south, another band of showery rain spreading its way through the north and central areas of the country, temperatures holding double figures, here are skies in the north, a little bit chillier than it was last night. the boundary between the cooler fresh air to the north and the warm air to the south on this cold front, you can see it will move south during wednesday, essentially fresh air moving into the south—east, quite cloudy across the south—east, quite cloudy across
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the south—east, quite cloudy across the south—east, ad breaks of rain, further north and west, largely dry on wednesday with sunny spells, a shower or two into the west of scotland. look at the temperatures, much cooler than today in the south—east, 16 degrees, elsewhere 16-19. south—east, 16 degrees, elsewhere 16—19. finally this front living to the near continent, leaving us all with fresh westerly air stream, a bit more in the way of rain coming into scotland and northern ireland. elsewhere for many on thursday a try day, some sunny spells, probably feeling a little warmer because of that sunshine, temperatures getting up that sunshine, temperatures getting up to between 16—20d. that's it from me. have a good day. hello, it's tuesday, it's ten o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. "corruption", "too much paperwork", "a rising population and not enough officers on the beat". some of the reasons police officers are telling us anonymously this morning are to blame for a crisis in policing. that's after a damning report on policing in england and wales says the government itself doesn't know the impact of its own cuts.
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the head of the body that represents front line police tells us the the system is near breaking point. it's time to invest in policing because without a proper investment policing is going to break beyond repair. we'll speak to a crime commissioner and a police chief in a few moments. a contestant in miss america has been praised worldwide for using the beauty pageant to draw attention to a deadly water crisis in her home state of michigan. from the state with 84% of the us freshwater but none for its residents to drink, i'm miss michigan, emily sioma. we'll talk live to emily sioma later in the programme. should people in charge of online forums be legally liable for hate speech fake news and defamation? a labour mp thinks so and is trying to get the law changed. we'll be speaking
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to her a little later. good morning, it's ten o'clock. here's joanna gosling is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the day's news. more than a million people in the us state of south carolina have been told to leave their homes, as they await the arrival of hurricane florence. a state of emergency has been declared for virginia as well as north and south carolina. it's feared that with winds of up to 140 miles an hour, the storm could cause widespread flooding. the home office is being accused of failing to understand the impact of cuts to the police service in england and wales. a report by the public spending watchdog, the national audit office, says forces have been cutting staff to save money, while arrest rates have fallen. the home office says it has increased funding this year, but it's being warned that the money isn't always spent in the right ways. public health england has compiled what it calls "the most comprehensive picture" of the nation's current health and future fitness. it's warning that a million more people will have diabetes in 20 years' time, and that obesity, dementia and mental health issues are on the rise. it shows england's population is growing in size and people are living longer, but more older
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women are in poor health. the government is failing to protect thousands of children from exploitation by lacking a plan to prevent child trafficking, according to a new report. the uk anti—trafficking monitoring group claims many children will only receive help once a criminal offence takes place, instead of preventing it happening in the first place. the government says it has a clear plan to prevent human trafficking. unemployment fell by 55,000 between may and july to 1.36 million, according to officialfigures. average earnings also rose by 2.9% in the year to the end ofjuly, according to the office for national statistics. the economy continued to generatejobs — with only 4% of those available to workjobless, a rate which hasn't been lower since 1974. an australian cartoonist has defended his depiction of serena williams at the us open, after the image went viral and was criticised as racist and sexist.
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the authorjk rowling was among those who said it portrayed racist and sexist stereotypes. but the cartoonist mark knight denied it was racist, saying he had intended to depict only the tennis player's "poor behaviour". a new arrival has made a playful appearance at chester zoo. a sun bear cub — who is yet to be named — may only be 12 weeks old but she has already made history by being the first of her species to be born in the uk. her mother milli, and dad toni, were both rescued from illegal wildlife traders in cambodia. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30. this e—mail. sips the government decided to cheat its police officers with pension reform an pay cuts it is no surprise they are struggling to recruit and retain new recruits
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and existing officer, those that do decide tojoin nowadays and existing officer, those that do decide to join nowadays ten not to stay very long and go on to better thing, you will be hard pushed to find a police officer who would recommend joining the service, front line officers can have anything from 15 to 20 crimes allocated to them to investigate and they are still expected to chase round answering 999 calls with every increasing workload. it is impossible to keep on top of the crimes an investigate them properly. let's get some sport now. azi farni is at the bbc sport centre. good morning. kimi raikkonen is leaving ferrari at the end of the current formula one season. the 2007 world champion posted on his instagram this morning that he'll be going to sauber on a two year deal, returning to the team who gave him his first chance in formula one back in 2001. going the other way, will be charles le clerc, with ferrrari confirming that the 20—year—old will drive alongside sebastian vettel next season.
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alastair cook ended his england career with a 33rd test hundred and as the fifth—highest test run scorer on day four of the fifth test against india. joe wilson is at the oval for us ahead of the final day's play. joe, it is not often that sports people get to bow out in such a perfect way. no, that is quite right. it is a cooler breezier kind of day here at the oval. we are in september of course and i think a more subdued atmosphere here today because the motion of yesterday was unique. let us reflect on alastair cook's achievements. i got a strong sense from cook himself that you know, he was almost amazed that he was able to summon this kind of level of performance at this stage of his career. also that it was very significant of him, for him, that
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his family, his children, his wife we re his family, his children, his wife were there to see it also a group of friends who had come. he had got them a box. he didn't want to let them a box. he didn't want to let them down, that was the strong feeling from him. also i get a sense that cook is 100% at ease with his decision to retire. he is goings to spend more time with the family, more time on the farm, as well as still playing county cricket for his beloved essex, it sounds like a pretty good life to me. let us look ahead today. if yesterday was all ant cook today is surely going to be about james anderson and ant cook today is surely going to be aboutjames anderson and a potential record. yes, in the context of the match, england are way ahead, taken three indian wickets in their second innings so india will resume in about 55 minutes' time. needing to get 464 to win, realistically trying to bat out the day. kohli already gone. james anderson needs one more
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wicket to take him to 564 in his career, that will make him the most prolific fast bowler in the history of cricket. there are spin bowlers who are taken more wicks, it is phenomenal. it will be another day, when we are slightly revelling in england's recent past and a couple of all—time great, the future, the immediate future could be a little trickierfor england. immediate future could be a little trickier for england. thank you. justin rose has climbed to the top of golf‘s world rankings after finishing second at the bmw championship in philadelphia. rose could've won the tournament if he'd holed this putt, but it just lipped out, forcing him into a play—off against keegan bradley. the american went onto to win it, but rose had already done enough to become just the fourth briton to lead the men's rankings, after sir nick faldo, luke donald and lee westwood. that's all the sport for now. ministers do not know the impact
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government funding cuts have had on police forces in england and wales. that's the damming assessment of the uk's spending watchdog — which accuses the home office of not knowing whether the police system is "financially sustainable", and says the current funding system is ‘out of date'. the report by the national audit office found it's taking police officers four days longer to charge someone for an offence compared to two years ago, and the arrest rate has fallen. these are some of the stories we've received from policeofficers since we came on air — we're not giving their names. we are a five a—side team playing an 11 a—side game. we are not able to actively and effectively patrol to prevent crime or engage with the public as all we seem to do is go from job tojob. then struggle to do the mountain of paperwork that is then associated with it. that is of course if we are not sent out to another job half way that is of course if we are not sent out to anotherjob half way, which means we are always playing catch and being late off.
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i could go on and on but it would only make me more angry and frustrated. "i'm a police community support officer. in my force we have so few police officers now that we have none on duty some nights. recently i was left to patrol on my own at midnight an area of 90 square miles and thousands of people. i have no personal protection equipment and no powers to deal with serious crime. this is now happening on a regular basis." "the biggest challenge in policing in the metropolitan police is corruption. not austerity or bad funding. but the old boys and old girls clubs. usually associated with rugby clubs or masons. promotions and appointments are often decided on a who you know basis rather than on ability or talent. complaints and misconduct allegations against senior officers are swept aside. the officer simply contacts their mates in the directorate of professional standards and the matter vanishes without trace.
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funding and staffing would be sufficient if the corruption causing bad practice was eradicated. the corruption causes internal empires to develop. each empire causes inefficiency and leads to strain." john apter is chair of the police federation — the body which represents 119,000 rank and file officers about the report. it comes as no surprise whatsoever and this is something we have been warning act o for many years, for this report to have come from a government body is pretty damning on the government and the home office. what do you draw from it, what is the thing you would like the government to change most of all? well, i mean i am very angry an frustrated it's taken so long for a government body to recognise that policing is indeed in crisis. we have been warning of this for a
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number of years, and this isn't to say we didn't accept that policing should have taken its fair share of budgetary pain but it went furtheren that that, and the warnings we have been given, first about the consequence of cuts to policing, but now the reality of those cuts, have fallen on deaf ears from governments andindeed fallen on deaf ears from governments and indeed some within policing, so, while i am reassured i an deeply frustrated that this crisis was avoidable and the government and the home office must take particular attention to this report, and it is time to invest in policing because without a proper investment policing is going to break beyond repair, thatis is going to break beyond repair, that is not what anybody wants. the report, i mean the nao report does not say policing is in crisis, it says the way police forces in england and wales are funded is out—of—date and detached from the changing demands faced by officers, it says it is unclear if home office money is being directed to the right places. it points out proportion of
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crimes resulting in charges has fallen. absolutely. i speak to police officers every day and policing is in crisis, we are not delivering the service we want to do, we, we are not giving the best service to victims of crime, we are not detecting the levels of crime that we want to do and also, this is no criticism of other agencies but we are picking up the work from other agencies who are under pressure, because we are the police service and we cannot say no. so, there is a crisis, and it is about funding and the home office and the prime minister who, you know e let us be honest she was the home secretary before and this is a personal issue with the prime minister, something that police officers feel very strongly about, that this has been led and driven by the prime minister personally and something has to give, so there is as far as police off officers up and down the country are concerned it is in crisis and it needs a lifeline.
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this is what the home office say and the home secretary, sajid javid will address police superintendents later today. their decision, the government's decision to empower locally accou nta ble government's decision to empower locally accountable police and crime commissioner to make decisions using local expertise doesn't mean the government doesn't understand the demands on police forces, it says the report doesn't recognise the strengths of pccs and chief co nsta bles strengths of pccs and chief constables leading on day—to—day matters, including on financial sustainability. it says the government is delivering a 460 million increase in overall police funding in 2018/19. that is nothing more than spoke and mirror, that is the home office, simply passing the buck to locally appointed police and crime commissioner, in real terms the government have cut 30%, 30% from the policing budget. they have given local police and crime
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commissioners, the ability to increase the levy locally, so that is an increase in council tax, why should members of the public be hit twice paying tax for a service they should rightly receive? and what we also see is a postcode lottery of whether local police and crime commissioner, depending on their political status, whether they increase the local precept. so that creates the haves and have—nots. i agree with the report, the funding formula is completely out—of—date, it is part of the problem, it is not the whole problem but the funding formula must be changed to make it fairer, for local police forces to deliver the best service they can. joining me now is mark burns—williamson, chair of the association of police and crime commissioners and the elected labour police and crime commissioner for west yorkshire. and in leicester is chief superintendent gavin thomas, who's president of the police superintendents association of england and wales. the home secretary sajid javid will speaking at their annual conference this afternoon. what do you think of the nao report? is it partly down to police and
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criminal economisingers like yourself, who are not alkaying the funds correctly? -- commissioners. well, no, idon't funds correctly? -- commissioners. well, no, i don't accept thats, and agree with many of the points that john made from the police federation, what the report says is one, the overall level of funding for policing isn't enough, and secondly, the police funding formula, which is referred to throughout, it hasn't been reformed for 15, 20 years, and throughout, it hasn't been reformed for15, 20 years, and in throughout, it hasn't been reformed for 15, 20 years, and in fact the home office tried to look at this about three years ago, made a hash of it and ended up with the minister coming to despatch box to apologise for the way in which that was done, but essentially we are left with an unfair playing field with regards to the way police funding is allocated, so yes as police and crime commissioners we have raised more funding locally through the local
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precept, but essentially the central grant which accounts for something like 70% of overall police funding, just isn't enough. it isn't allocated fairly. chief superintendent gavin thomas, do you agree with that? you node more money? yes, but it is notjust about money, there is a couple of points i would like to make in terms of the report. first is the home office recognised in 2015 that the current funding formula for policing was not fit for purpose. and by their own assessment, by the government's own assessment this won't be reviewed until 202021, if we won't be reviewed until 202021, if we hold on the principle here, that policing is a pretty critical public service to keep our communities, keep ourselves safe and from harm, then, i'm not sure that is a sustainable position. the second point i will make, is and which is made in the report itself, and while i will probably make this afternoon, i don't think currently in the current policing system, i use that
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term generous usually, anybody who has an overview of the picture on the box, the strategy, the wiring diagram of policing and that is one of the points made by this report, that government have really haven't got an overview of the consequences of the current austerity cuts that have been made into policing up—to—date. have been made into policing up-to-date. when the home secretary stands up at your conference and says, iam stands up at your conference and says, i am with you, listening, i am going to stand up for you, will you not believe him ? going to stand up for you, will you not believe him? i don't think it is a question of belief. i think what i wan to have, is a government, i want politicians to start to get more involved in the debate, the conversation on policing,ly be calling for, as i did last year, we need to take a step on the ball here, and have a conversation with yourself, the public, all stakeholder, the media about what we wa nt stakeholder, the media about what we want from our police service in the zist want from our police service in the 21st sent. once we have got a concept of an answer, how do we structure it, fund it accordingly to
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meet the new demands which the police service is basing currently and in future. mark burns williamson, i will mention the home office state we have got again. i read it tojohn, it debts pouts some of the findings from the spending watchdog saying it does have a strategic direction and last year conducted a substantial basing currently and in future. mark burns williamson, i will mention the home office state we have got again. i read it tojohn, it debts pouts some of the findings from the spending watchdog saying it does have a strategic direction and last year conducted a substantial review of police pressures, "our decision to employ local police and crime commissioners using their experience does not mean we don't understand the demansz on police forces." that is fairenough, the demansz on police forces." that is fair enough, isn't it? well, it misses the point though, doesn't it. what some of the points gavin has made, it is time to look again, at the strategic direction of policing, certainly, yes, we are responsible for producing local policing crime plans but when you look at the pressures in other service, mental health, youth services that have been slashed, these are all pressures that are mounting on the
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police, and it doesn't surprise me with some of the comments we have heard from the front line officers regarding the pressures they are facing, day in, day out, so it is time to look again and give policing the priority it deserves within the overall comprehensive spending review that is to come next. how much more money to you need for police forces in england and wales? well, at the moment i think it is something like 8 billion or thereabouts in the overall home office budget, but actually, again, when you look at the pressures around things like cyber cream, human trafficking, the funding formula that is well out—of—date. everything leads to suggest that isn't enough. really we need a sustained longer term plan, to invest in policing and notjust rely on local police and crime commissioners to raise ever more funds through the local police council tax. let funds through the local police counciltax. let me read funds through the local police council tax. let me read a couple more messages. we have had a number
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of officers is contact us today. most anonymous for obvious reasons, asa most anonymous for obvious reasons, as a member of police staff supporting operational policing the budget cuts are sharply felt. we all wa nt to budget cuts are sharply felt. we all want to do a good job but the level of expectation from seener yes managers increased daily and encroaches beyond yorking hours. we can't keep this up as conscientious as we are. this texter says i'm a police community support officer, i have seen so much money spent in the wrong place, millions on systems in police cars that don't work. we have two police officers retiring from my tea m two police officers retiring from my team in the next six months with more leaving over the following year and no plan to replace them. so many times i have been on shift and there are not enough response and patrol officers to respond to call, so much so we are having to request officers from other departments and areas and then on the worst days we are still struggling. my workload is increasing, the systems are temperamental. i am
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increasing, the systems are temperamental. iam required increasing, the systems are temperamental. i am required to be out 8 temperamental. i am required to be out8o temperamental. i am required to be out8 o 0% of temperamental. i am required to be out 8 o 0% of the time but this is not possible. thank you both, thank you very much for coming on the programme and thank you to you for all your comments as well. coming up... marianne power attempted to improve herself by following the rules of a different self help book each month for a year — she's here to tell us if her experiment worked. what's the best way to tackle online hate speech, radicalisation, and disinformation — orfake news — in online forums? in parliament today, a labour mp will start the process of making a new law to try to make people in charge of online forums legally liable for any hate speech and defamation that occurs within the groups they manage. one of its other aims will be to crack down on secret online groups on facebook, particularly those with more than 500 members, which it says should be banned. they want to target groups like one which was called, like one which was called
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jewish ritual murder, which promoted false stories that jews kill christian babies during religious festivals. another which promoted giving children bleach as a cure for autism, and a group called "marines united", in which serving and ex—marines in the us and uk shared nude pictures of fellow servicewomen. but would such plans work? we can speak now to the mp who's introducing the bill, labour's lucy powell, emma dalmayne, an autistic mum who uncovered facebook groups online recommending bizarre inaccurate and dagnerous so—called ‘cures‘ for autism, and jamie bartlett, author of ‘the people versus tech‘ who has presented documentaries about the internet and social media companies. he also works for the cross—party thinktank, demos. thank you for coming on. lucy, this is much wider than hate speech, it is much wider than hate speech, it is about making admin straight fors
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and moderators of online forums liable for hate speech, fake news and so on and so forth. it is, yes, because just like our newspapers, our broadcaster, our radio programmes, they are held to very high standards, high journalistic standards, accountability and responsibility, but many, well, the online forum world is unaccountable really and doesn't have the same level of responsibility at all. many of these online forums, some of the facebook groups have tens of thousands of members, in them, and their power and penetration and their power and penetration and their reach far exceeds those of many of our national newspapers of many of our national newspapers of many of our radio stations, yet if something is posted in there about you which is wrong or libellous or if something is posted in there which is racist or misogynistic or inciting acts of violence there is little anyone can do about it. so, i think it is about time the law
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caught up, i think that when i was looking at this the last time a new piece of legislation was brought in was if 2003. that was before facebook xies existed. you uncovered this so—called autism group, what did you find? parents are used bleach, turn tyne and a banned blood product on their children believing it can purple their autism. they are told the children have parasites and they have to use breech. who is telling them that? am i allowed to say names? no but is it parents? it isa say names? no but is it parents? it is a parented of an autistic whiled who has written a book which is recommending this treatment. this is a secret facebook group? there is so many. as soon as you get one shot down it opens up under a different name. i believe the admins should be prosecuted because they are allowing
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people to put up pictures of their children, they are advising keep upping the dose because the autism is leaving them. totally inaccurate, totally dangerous. with thousands of members that one. what do you think about this idea of making the moderators liable? yes, i think we are all trying to get to the same place, which is platforms and people being more responsible but i am worried about the consequences of some of this. i a lot of moderators are firstly spread all over the world, very ha rd are firstly spread all over the world, very hard to know where they are, secondly you will find that moderators are, you get teenager, you get teenagers that are moderators of all sorts of different group, they don't have legal understanding or experience and suddenly they be held responsible for things they don't really understand very well. i know what we are trying to get to, but i don't think that is the worst of it. this idea of secret facebook groups being made public i disagree with. i see
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there are big problems with them, but the issue is that most secret facebook groups are not about this stuff. you have anti—fascist facebook groups that want to stay secret because they don't want people knowing what they are up to. you have support groups, lgbt groups in particular neighbourhoods and areas, jamie bartlett's surprise birthday group. i don't want it to be made public. i hear that and a lot of people have said that, i think the point... are you ignoring it. one issue is about scale, so we are talking about groups over certain amount, maybe 500, maybe 1,000, we will have to consultant. there are huge groups as well. secondly, i think the issue is about knowing the group exists at all in the first place. not about saying you need to publish all the members of the group and have that public, but, the security services, anybody,
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can't, the autism support groups, didn't even know these groups existed, thousands of members, so i think to say the name of the group, broadly how many members you have got so at least you know they exist, but, you know happening in computer secret weapon you are spreading misinformation. i do understand the civil liberty issues. when you have groups like healing autism, recovering autism, purging autism, thing like that. i agree but if you, i don't usually defend facebook in this way, but if you break the terms and conditions enin secret groups, you will be shut down, the authorities, the authorities can also request information, they can be faster and more effective but the authorities can request that facebook turns over information about these groups, but i understand the idea this is not about names
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people, but even the names of the group, if you put out for example that you are an anti—fascist group in manchester, immediately, fascist groups in manchester will try and infiltrate that group. so if you give something away... what about the point of teenagers who might be moderators who have no legal understanding of what it is they are moderating suddenly being held accountable. i think this is the point, what i am trying to do is we have a cross—party group of senior mps supporting the bill today, is to send, to start to send a strong signal to say you are responsible. it is not sufficient to say i have this group with thousands of people on it which has got stuff being posted on it every day and shared which appears in the time line of another tens of thousands of people, who are, who are involved in it. that i have got no responsibility at all for checking what is there, so i think it is about saying the people, if you are setting up and running
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these group, then you do have some responsibility, you can't just these group, then you do have some responsibility, you can'tjust say hang on, i'm a tanker, i didn't know what i was doing, you, in the saint way if you were publishing a newspaper or if you had an online site on the website, some people would have recourse. would it force companies like facebook to employ more experienced moderators. companies like facebook to employ more experienced moderatorsm companies like facebook to employ more experienced moderators. it is not facebook momentee, it is people that are moderating the groups, it is notjust that are moderating the groups, it is not just facebook, that are moderating the groups, it is notjust facebook, it is different platforms, if it were making moderators of forums legally responsible, then it goes far beyond facebook, but it is for some people this would become a computer full—time job, they would have to do nothing but check every post each person was putting up. i would rather they should be checking. i would rather that facebook itself was more responsible so it is not just about the poor moderator who is
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running this group, the company, facebook has to be more responsible, so if for example in the case of germany they have passed this law, andl germany they have passed this law, and i think this is parly inspired by that, they repeatedly do not quickly remove stuff that is hateful or illegal, facebook gets fined but it is not the moderator it is the platform. and i think facebook should be doing allot more, tom watson is calling for the german style lips is the company and the moderators, it goes hand in hand. if you've got admin advising parents, for adults holding down a three—year—old and this moderator who owns the group, who created the group saying that's a good thing, yes, they should be prosecuted. these people should be prosecuted. these people should be prosecuted. i think what you have to remember, for a lot of people who
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established the scripts in the first place or who operate on these groups to establish them, they do so with a malign intent and they do so with a particular agenda, whether it's for right organisations, are left organisations, and the backs and asian groups, groups that say you can cu re asian groups, groups that say you can cure autism... there are not unknowing ignorant teenagers. we are focusing on those bad things and i get bad but it's important to rememberand one thing get bad but it's important to remember and one thing we have learnt about cambridge analytica and russian hacking, the value of privacy and there are so many other groups that people use for all sorts of good things and i guess i'm just worried that in the interests of dry to solve these are real problems we actually end up dragging lots of decent people into this with legal responsibilities they don't understand and making public secret groups that should probably remain secret. thank you. a balance to be struck, always. thank you all very
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much. still to come... we'll be speaking to a contestant who has won worldwide praise for drawing attention to a water crisis in her home state. we speak to the lady who took to the skies to put self—help books to the test. time for the latest news — here'sjoanna. the bbc news headlines this morning... more than a million people in the us state of south carolina have been told to leave their homes, as they await the arrival of hurricane florence. a state of emergency has been declared for virginia as well as north and south carolina. it's feared that with winds of up to 140 miles an hour, the storm could cause widespread flooding. the home office is being accused of failing to understand the impact of cuts to the police service in england and wales. a report by the public spending watchdog, the national audit office, says forces have been cutting staff to save money, while arrest rates have fallen. the home office says it has increased funding this year, but it's being warned that the money isn't always spent
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in the right ways. public health england has compiled what it calls "the most comprehensive picture" of the nation's current health and future fitness. it's warning that a million more people will have diabetes in 20 years time, and that obesity, dementia and mental health issues are on the rise. it shows england's population is growing in size and people are living longer, but more older women are in poor health. the government is failing to protect thousands of children from exploitation by lacking a plan to prevent child trafficking, according to a new report. the uk anti—trafficking monitoring group claims many children will only receive help once a criminal offence takes place, instead of preventing it happening in the first place. the government says it has a clear plan to prevent human trafficking. unemployment fell by 55,000 between may and july to 1.36 million, with the jobless rate at 4%, according to official figures. wages also saw faster than expected growth in the three months tojuly, as they continued to outstrip rising
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prices, according to the office for national statistics. earnings have now outstripped inflation for several months. ryan thomas has been named winner of celebrity big brother after a controversial series that has seen walk—outs and thousands of complaints. they were sparked by an incident between thomas and roxanne pallett, in which the former emmerdale star claimed to have been repeatedly punched. she accused ex—coronation street actor thomas of deliberately hurting her, but later admitted she got it wrong. thomas appeared shocked and shook his head as he left the house, telling host emma willis he was "overwhelmed". that's a summary of the latest bbc news. here's some sport now with azi. thank you, kimi raikkonen will leave ferrari at the end of the season, the 2007 world champion announcing a return to sauber on a two—year deal.
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charles leclerc will replace at harare. after alastair cook signed off his england career with the century today is aboutjimmy anderson. another wicket and table will become the most successful fast bowler in test matches trick, india resuming the final day on 58—3 chasing 464. justin rose has become only the fourth british golfer to reach an umber one in the world rankings finishing second at the bmw championship in philadelphia. scotla nd championship in philadelphia. scotland started the nations league campaign witha scotland started the nations league campaign with a win over albania, steven naismith scoring the second in their 2—0 steven naismith scoring the second in their2—0 win steven naismith scoring the second in their 2—0 win at hamden park. that is your support for now. thank you. the shadow chancellor, john mcdonnell, will today promise that a labour government would give more rights to staff in the so—called "gig economy" — that's people working on zero—hour contracts who often don't get sick or holiday pay. he's due to speak at the tuc conference in manchester , and is also expected to lay out plans to give more power to unions to represent workers. our correspondent colletta smith
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is at the conference in manchester this morning. tell us more about what he's likely to save. good morning victoria, good morning everyone, the speech will happen around 40 & tuning, will address the congress in manchester, quite a lot of titbits about what he will talk about later, the big theme is this idea of insecure working, able on zero—hours contracts, people working from contract to contract without longer job term working from contract to contract without longerjob term security or exactly knowing how much they will be paid at the end of the week. that's the issue he's focusing on, lots of the union is talking about this over the past couple of days. unions here say they represent about 6 million people across the country in all different sectors but crucially they don't necessarily represent many of those people who are in the gig economy, lots of them aren't union members in the first place. john mcdonnell is going to
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try and address that issue, listen to what he told the bbc earlier. the government is tracking its feet on this, we are saying we need to do it now because if you look at what sap on, we've had this increase in employment in the economy which we welcome but any of those jobs are zero—hours contracts, welcome but any of those jobs are zero— hours contracts, pretty low pay, very insecure and people are struggling notjust pay, very insecure and people are struggling not just about pay, very insecure and people are struggling notjust about managing butjust struggling notjust about managing but just about surviving. struggling notjust about managing butjust about surviving. that's john mcdonnell talking earlier about those figures we were hearing in the news, the fact that the government is pointing out we have record deployment at the moment, they are producing jobs, jobs being created in the economy but not necessarily securejobs. in the economy but not necessarily secure jobs. the taylor report commissioned by the government suggests two thirds of workers in that area of the economy, people who arejust that area of the economy, people who are just working from that area of the economy, people who arejust working from job that area of the economy, people who are just working from job to job perfectly happy with that don't necessarily demanding extra john donnell is talking about. the
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government also pointing out they are infact government also pointing out they are in fact increasing wages, they've made the minimum wage rise a little earlier this year is helping workers. what are going to be the challenges in dry to achieve what mr admits donnell would like to? the big one of course is the fact that labour isn't going to get into power in the foreseeable future. other we will have an election is a questionable topic, he is also saying the labour party policy is what they are setting out and the fa ct what they are setting out and the fact the government should act on it now. he says workers haven't been as unprotected since the 1930s and that's a big reflection of this movement, the tuc, celebrating 150 yea rs movement, the tuc, celebrating 150 years and the fact so many rights we re years and the fact so many rights were introduced after the 1930s are provided protection at work, the fa ct we provided protection at work, the fact we have paid holidays, the fact we have protect the days of and weekends, and come through the union movement, that's what he's saying we
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need to take a step further and protecting new area of work and the world before, the fact that people work flexibly and that needs to be addressed. thank you very much. more coverage on bbc newsroom lives at the tuc conference. this years miss america has been taken by storm by a candidate who didn't win. in fact miss michigan, emily sioma ? didnt even get into the final round ? but she s the main talking point of the pageant, for speaking out over a water contamination scandal in her home state. in 2014, the water supply to the town of flint was changed — lead waste from the local car manufacturing industry, which had leeched into it, basically ended up in the drinking water supply. it's part of a wider problem in the state which has incensed miss michigan. bbc‘s our world investigated the story of flint‘s contaminated water supply back in november 2016 — here's a short extract from that film. she provoked an outpouring of
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support on social media. the city of flint health adviser says we appreciate you and congratulate you on your accomplishment. the young women's christian association tweeted this... we will talk live to emily in a moment, there she is, waiting to talk to you but now, back to that of a world bt. in april 2014 the state governments which the water supply to the highly toxic flint river. the
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move was meant to save money. —— vt. but the flint river water was allowed to run through the river system allowed to run through the river syste m o n allowed to run through the river system on treated eating away at the pipes. there was an issue around chemistry and corrosion control and water quality. and so as that which was made and as the water chemistry was made and as the water chemistry was not correct it then caused some lead to leach out of service lines and fixtures. residents were forced to stay on the contaminated water until october last year. when officials finally switch the supply back to leak your wrong. the damage had been done. we still cannot drink water that is from the taps. it is contaminated with lead and that is because the 18 months that we were on the flint river water the untreated water, significantly damage the infrastructure. you can think of it as drinking through a
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lead painted straw, chips of lead scale continue to come off into the drinking water and into the tab. the department of environmental quality and other government agencies initially denied there was a problem. they are now working with scientists from virginia tech who helped uncover this crisis. there is really a comprehensive response in flint and i think the last time i checked we have taken over 38,000 sinkholes in flint which i will say is probably the most tested water syste m is probably the most tested water system at least in this country, i know it is in this state. what do we want? know it is in this state. what do we wa nt ? clea n know it is in this state. what do we want? clean water, when do we want it? now. that's little comfort to community who doesn't know then that will have clean drinking water again and the trust is gone. for a year and the trust is gone. for a year and a half residents were told water like this was safe. even though it looked, smelt and tasted bad.
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according to the michigan attorney general state employees dry to cover up general state employees dry to cover up warning signs of lead poisoning. when you're talking about government, the trust was broken and that's something that's really difficult and hard to repair. we have kids now that are suffering the consequences of lead contaminated water or pregnant women that were ingesting this water. it was a local paediatrician that brought the crisis to public attention, analysing blood data from flint children last summer. the research showed in the city of flint which is divided into nine words, the percentage of kids with elevated blood levels doubled after the water switch and in some neighbourhoods it was even higher, actually tripled. this is something that we may have to deal with decades, if not generations to come. his research on
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the impacts of lead, the environment impacts your genetics, mothers exposed to lead, you can see the dna changes in their grandchildren. lead poisoning shows no symptoms. but it results in iq loss, behavioural problems and learning disabilities in children. it can harm every organ in the body, especially the central nervous system. it's really shocking. let's talk to miss michigan, emily, joining us by a webcam in the early hours of the morning, we are so grateful to you for joining morning, we are so grateful to you forjoining us. good morning. the world now knows there is a problem with the water in your area, how do you feel? the intention behind my statement, i had no idea could make international news, i wanted to make sure people knew that those in florida are insecure about their
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water and it's a state—wide issue. —— those in flint. water and it's a state—wide issue. -- those in flint. by highlighting it at the miss america pageant you are hoping to achieve what, what needs to change, what is the call to action? call to action was to communities across the state to continue the conversation and a lot of people have said, no, you are shaming the state or you are being shady and i think it was the exact opposite, i get to represent the amazing things about michigan and i get to represent the hardships and say we have to be talking about this until we can find resolution. it's unusual because it's not what people would conventionally expect from a beauty pageant. i know they had tried to change it from simply being a beauty competition, it's supposed to be much more politically aware, if you like, the organisers say we
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don't want it to be a pageant, it's not just about outward don't want it to be a pageant, it's notjust about outward physical appearance suffering did you make the decision you were going to say that in that short amount of time? about two days earlier at was the end of our preliminary competition which determines whether you make it to the next round and i had to remind myself why i was involved in this organisation and its to make an impact. i knew if i had any time it was eight seconds when i was allowed to speak the national television, to say something that was going to be meaningful, notjust say something that was going to be meaningful, not just for say something that was going to be meaningful, notjust for myself because of the important issue to me but for the people i represent as miss michigan. right. and you so wa nt to miss michigan. right. and you so want to use your status i understand to campaign on other issues like surviving sexual assault, for example. tell our audience five. we are allowed to have our own social impact initiative and mine is i leave you, supporting survivors of
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sexual and violence and being a survivor myself when i was younger i came to understand that we are not doing enough as communities to support survivors because we don't have the immediate opportunity as individuals to change laws and policies but we do have the immediate opportunity to change the way we respond to survivors and support them on theirjourney to either prosecution or recovery. and it is your future in politics, either prosecution or recovery. and it is yourfuture in politics, do you think? i wouldn't count it out but i definitely know it's not quite there yet, i want to be able to be a resource and an ally to communities across my state and i know through that i will probably find a lot of opportunities to get involved in politics but i'm ready to go back to school and enjoy a little less responsibility than being a politician quite yet. but i think maybe in the future, just as long as ican be maybe in the future, just as long as i can be advocating for something bigger than myself and representing and using my voice and platforms to
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uplift others. what about running for president? i don't know that i'm ready for that much responsibility. one day? one day. don't count it out! don't camp the end quite yet! i need to be just missed michigan for now and then be able to uplift voices across the state.” now and then be able to uplift voices across the state. i hear you. thank you so much! thank you for having me. iappreciate thank you so much! thank you for having me. i appreciate it. the self—help industry is huge. in the states, it's worth £8.5 billion pounds annually. you might have tried a self—help book or two yourself. what about following the rules of a different one each month for a year? it's whatjournalist marianne power did and she's written a book about it, and she's here in her first tv interview about it. hello, why did you do this? i was a bit mad, i always read self—help books and i fa ntasised bit mad, i always read self—help books and i fantasised about how great life with b if i got up at 5am
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to meditate and do affirmations but like most people i did not think that the book still need to do by my mid—30s i was just that the book still need to do by my mid—30s i wasjust in a rut and it was one particular hungover sunday funi was one particular hungover sunday fun i thought something has to change. and so i had an idea instead of reading the self—help books every night i would put them to the test andi night i would put them to the test and i would follow the rules of a different book every month for a year. and see what happened. ok, pick out a couple of books that you read and four rules you followed and what affect it had a new.” read and four rules you followed and what affect it had a new. i started the book called feel that the and do it anyway, a self—help classic that came out in the 80s and the rule is you do something scary every single day. and susanjeffers is the author says when we see people who go out and do amazing things we think they are braver and more confident than us, but she says it's not true they feel the fear and do it anyway and they should do something that frightens us every day to make us grow. so i went for it, i did
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stand—up comedy... you jumped out of the plane. i jumped stand—up comedy... you jumped out of the plane. ijumped out of the plane, i absolutely hated it. stand—up comedy which was the most frightening thing i could think of doing. did you make people laugh? yes. did you? ijust told them doing. did you make people laugh? yes. did you? i just told them what i was doing and that seemed ridiculous enough! i came away so proud of myself afterwards. so that was an exhilarating and terrifying start to the project. i followed another book called the secret which is one of the best selling self—help books and it's about the law of attraction and the idea that thoughts become things... you visualise something. you believe, that month i downloaded a pretend cheque from the secret website and filled it out for the amount of £100,000 and waited for it to come my way. you visualise did. you look at it every day and another bit of advice is that if you have a dream
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car don'tjust advice is that if you have a dream car don't just visualise advice is that if you have a dream car don'tjust visualise the dream car don'tjust visualise the dream cargo and sit car don'tjust visualise the dream car go and sit in it. i went to a mercedes showroom and sad in this beautiful old sports car and got the bus home. at was a crazy month. so if you compare those books, then one worked for you and one just feels like a bit of a con. no, i wouldn't say it was a column, i am conflicted about the secrets, part of me thinks we can actually get me more in life than we think, the visualisation and getting clear on what you want, had never really allowed myself to think about what i want. sportsmen and women visualise crossing a line, scoring 100 at the crease, some would swear it works for them but the way you describe it, of course it's not going to work. you see, so many people swear it works which is why i did the secret, when i told anyone about the project they would
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either look at me like i was crazy orsay either look at me like i was crazy or say had you read the secrets? athletes visualise but they train every day. very good point, they practice. that element of the book is slightly lost over, visualisation being big, you can visualise allsorts. you unravelled as you carried on this process, described what was going on. i think i was doing at the nominal amount of thinking about myself which isn't healthy. oh, my god, ithought thinking about myself which isn't healthy. oh, my god, i thought i would get to the bottom and i'd be fixed and it didn't happen that way. i was obsessed with myself. the more i was obsessed with myself. the more i was reading these books the higher standards over setting, i felt like a failure because i wasn't this cross between blood and beyonce every day. i was creating high standards. yes, it was too much and the self examination, i don't think
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anyone else would do it to the extreme that i did. —— buddha. it's not healthy to think about yourself as much as i did. what have you learned about yourself? so much. i did a book on money and that of a lwa ys did a book on money and that of always thought lots of people think my problem with money as i didn't have enough in doing this because badger added tudor money and i realised i would be one of those people if i won the lottery i would be broke in two years. something about me and money and i read a book which have the power of now which had a profound effect on me, the message sounds of basic and when you get, you get it, the author describes this was in our head, nothing we are doing is good enough and comparing and worrying and analysing. i need to be richer, i need to be thinner, i need to get a promotion... just constant. and he says we miss out the only thing that's ever real and which will bring us peace, right now. i try and
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live by that. in the moment. what does that mean? it doesn't sound basic, it's so true but what does it mean? right now we are sitting together having this conversation, and we are all right. we have no major problems. my head could be doing a number of, and by saying the right things? it's just not helping anything so right now life is good. i was another book by a woman who has done one of them most watched ted talks all the time, living in this not enough culture, we don't think we are successful are not, good looking enough, when we feel like this we try and be perfect, we try and work harder, read self—help books! but we are never going to reach this perfect state because it's not human and the only thing that helps us is talking honestly about our fears and doubts and worries with another human being and
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then you realise we are all the same and we are all fine. do you think having read a number of these books that some of them sell a fantasy or a light, if i was to be even more cynical? i wouldn't say a lie but i would say some of them selling vision of reality that i don't know how people would sustain, a man called tony robbins who is this quintessential american self—help guru he's like an olympic athlete and his sport is life and he's inspiring to appoint but then i don't know how people realistically would keep up that level of intensity and positivity. and then the danger is we set ourselves up for a fall. so they can give great inspiration i think and great wisdom and comfort, sometimes these books talk about our doubts and difficulties of being human and that can be quite comforting but i guess the basic message from my year of trying to be perfect and failing is
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that we are fine, i'm fine, i am a human, i have good days and bad days. i bet your mum could have told you that. thank you for coming on the programme. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. have a good day. hello, good morning. some heavy rain across northern england and wales, you can see it from the radar imagery. notice how this rain starts to fragment as it moves further south into the midlands and across south wales. continuing to fragment as it pushes southward into east anglia and to the south it should be dry, some cloud, quite warm, to the north sunny spells. these black
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arrows indicate that of the gusts, some 30 blustery conditions this afternoon, especially the northwest. maximum temperatures 15—23d in the south. going through tonight, the rain pepping up across much of england and wales. through the early hours of wednesday, temperatures not falling that bach, quite a warm night, temperatures between 12—15, clear spells further north, a little bit chillier. during wednesday, some cloud and rain in the south, sunnier spells elsewhere. good life. —— goodbye. —— goodbye. this is bbc news. i'm joanna gosling. these are the top stories developing at 11. fewer police and falling arrest
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